What do the pro's use? What do you think is the best one?
Just adobe premiere? That's what i'm *trying* to use....
Which one should I really get into?
Just adobe premiere? That's what i'm *trying* to use....
Which one should I really get into?
What do you guys use to edit? (Best editing program)
I use Ulead Video Studio 8, its pretty good, but really laggy sometimes.
Depends on YOur Budget. But i love video Toater, and Globecasts Trinity is pretty Good to, but for those on a low budget I like Vegas, because the chromakey and vectorkey features work great, and for the hobbyis premiere or pinnacle is awesome.
| Jaan wrote: |
| What do the pro's use? What do you think is the best one?
Just adobe premiere? That's what i'm *trying* to use.... Which one should I really get into? |
give vegas a try, its great and you should be able to get a trial
| Jaan wrote: |
| What do the pro's use? What do you think is the best one?
Just adobe premiere? That's what i'm *trying* to use.... Which one should I really get into? |
I use Final Cut Pro, which is a mac only program. If you have Adobe Premiere, you should use that!! You don't need to get something else. Adobe makes good stuff and Premiere is a pro level program. Final Cut Pro, Vegas, and Avid make good NLE editors as well, but if you already have Premiere I'd just edit with that. No need in buying something else, none of these are really going to be "hugely better" than the others, you can do pretty much the same stuff with all of them. There are little things about each one that may be better or worse than the others but mostly they are going to do the same kinds of stuff in a slightly different way. You've got what you need so start editing already!! 
I agree.
Use whatever software you are familiar with. If you are the only person who is going to use that machine or software, it really shouldn't matter what you are using because the only thing which really counts is the final video, and that you can achieve with almost any editing software from Windows Movie Maker or iMovie right up to Final Cut Pro.
I'm teaching a Video Production course right now and I'm making the students use iMovie because it is a short course and the software is easy to learn.
However, if you are investing in a software for which you are not the only user and you may be employing freelance video editors to work on it, then it is best to get something which is commonly used so that you are not restricted or held ransom by any editors because they are the only few people on the market who know how to edit with that software.
Common NLE's are Final Cut Pro, Adobe Premiere, Sony Vegas, and AVID.
I prefer FCP, but Vegas is equally good. I'm not using it because I'm on a Mac platform, but when I used to be on Windows, it was the NLE of my choice.
However, not many editors in my territory know Vegas, and since I hire freelance editors regularly, I have to use FCP.
Hope this helps you.
Use whatever software you are familiar with. If you are the only person who is going to use that machine or software, it really shouldn't matter what you are using because the only thing which really counts is the final video, and that you can achieve with almost any editing software from Windows Movie Maker or iMovie right up to Final Cut Pro.
I'm teaching a Video Production course right now and I'm making the students use iMovie because it is a short course and the software is easy to learn.
However, if you are investing in a software for which you are not the only user and you may be employing freelance video editors to work on it, then it is best to get something which is commonly used so that you are not restricted or held ransom by any editors because they are the only few people on the market who know how to edit with that software.
Common NLE's are Final Cut Pro, Adobe Premiere, Sony Vegas, and AVID.
I prefer FCP, but Vegas is equally good. I'm not using it because I'm on a Mac platform, but when I used to be on Windows, it was the NLE of my choice.
However, not many editors in my territory know Vegas, and since I hire freelance editors regularly, I have to use FCP.
Hope this helps you.
I use Adobe Premiere & I love it.
So premiere it is, though I find it has a bit of a learning curve. Still getting used to it for now, we'll see how it goes.
Cheers guys.
Cheers guys.
If you've got enough money get Final Cut Studio 5.1 or Final Cut express if you're a little low on money. FC Express costs around 300$!
I've not used Adobe Premier since they had an A/B roll track so I really don't know how it works today. But I've been told that it functions very much like FCP.
In fact, FCP was built on the Premiere model, from what I've heard.
I found some info on this site:
http://digitalvideolessons.com/Digital%20Video%20Lessons/Video%20Editing.html
In fact, FCP was built on the Premiere model, from what I've heard.
I found some info on this site:
http://digitalvideolessons.com/Digital%20Video%20Lessons/Video%20Editing.html
| tiel_99 wrote: |
| I've not used Adobe Premier since they had an A/B roll track so I really don't know how it works today. But I've been told that it functions very much like FCP.
In fact, FCP was built on the Premiere model, from what I've heard. I found some info on this site: http://digitalvideolessons.com/Digital%20Video%20Lessons/Video%20Editing.html |
Adobe Premiere Pro is just much more expensive than Final Cut Express, Final Cut Studio has 5 programmes in it and costs 1300$ where as Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0 is just one programme and costs 1200$. Many say that FCP is much more better than Adobe Premiere Pro so think about it. If you've got a Mac, FC is a great choice for you!!!!
If you are not on a Mac the only two appz to use are Sony Vegas or Adobe premier pro.
I'm a Video Editor and I use Vegas. (I dont own a Mac) I've found Vegas to be a very very powerful tool. Although it does not have much hardware support like premier it is still much easier to use and visually better. Its history is with the sonic foundry audio appz so anyone familiar with those will jump in easily as the interface is similar and also because of this its ausio capabilities are second to none!
I'm a Video Editor and I use Vegas. (I dont own a Mac) I've found Vegas to be a very very powerful tool. Although it does not have much hardware support like premier it is still much easier to use and visually better. Its history is with the sonic foundry audio appz so anyone familiar with those will jump in easily as the interface is similar and also because of this its ausio capabilities are second to none!
Adobe Premiere 7 I think. Very slow on slower and/or older computers.
I've used Vegas and I liked it very very much. It was fast, easy, and had real time effects.
The only problem I had with it was that there is only one viewer. This was a great inconvenience to me as I was used to having at least a preview brower.
I don't know if Sony has since fixed it, but I've since moved on to FCP which I think is simply great for the mac.
Even if you don't want to purchase FCP, you can get the Final Cut Express version at a fraction of the cost.
The only problem I had with it was that there is only one viewer. This was a great inconvenience to me as I was used to having at least a preview brower.
I don't know if Sony has since fixed it, but I've since moved on to FCP which I think is simply great for the mac.
Even if you don't want to purchase FCP, you can get the Final Cut Express version at a fraction of the cost.
I've heard Vegas is the easiest one for someone just starting. Is that true? I'm interested in learning, just no idea where to start. this thread has given me a lot of ideas though:)
If you are on a mac I strongly recommend you use Final Cut Pro or Avid. Avid has real time previewing ( meaning you don't have to render a certain section out like in other programs in order to view it ) which helps out alot when it comes to my field which is animation. On a PC I say your best bet is Adobe Premiere. Its a halfway decent program and has been around for awhile now. It still gets the job done though
In the end, the software you end up using is a matter of personal choice.
I started out with AVID 10 years ago and was simply astounded by the very concept of NLE. Before that, I was doing tape to tape edits.
But a couple of years later, I came across other kinds of editing software on both Windows and Mac, and they could all get the job done.
I've gone through Premier, Vegas, and am now on FCP.
It's all a matter of choice and which ever software suits the kind of work you do best.
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I started out with AVID 10 years ago and was simply astounded by the very concept of NLE. Before that, I was doing tape to tape edits.
But a couple of years later, I came across other kinds of editing software on both Windows and Mac, and they could all get the job done.
I've gone through Premier, Vegas, and am now on FCP.
It's all a matter of choice and which ever software suits the kind of work you do best.
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Resource Centre for Digital Video Productions
Mac users: Final Cut Pro
PC Users: Sony Vegas
PC Users: Sony Vegas
Adobe Premiere is my choice!
Does Sony Vegas is a really good editor? I didn't try it once because I'm satisfied in using Adobe Premiere.
Does Sony Vegas is a really good editor? I didn't try it once because I'm satisfied in using Adobe Premiere.
| Alias wrote: |
| Sony Vegas is a really good editor? |
As an all round package it boasts more features then Premier & Premier Pro. However as Premier has a much larger customer base there are more plugins and 3dr part support available.
When you put Vegas agaist Premier Pro - I have found Vegas to be superior - its got the audio history too!
I'm using Premiere for editing, and as it has its family branch, Photoshop and Illustrator, it is easier for me to incorporate all of them in term of compatibility and as well as familiarity of the interface usage
Jaan, if you have PPro, try going to the Adobe Website. In the "community" heading, they have lots of online tutorials. Google Premier Pro tutorials, I believe Steven Gotz has a tutorial referral page as well. The Adobe "Studio in a Classroom" is not bad for beginners and the "Premiere Pro Studio Techniques" books are very good as well. Remember, it's not just the software, it's learning to edit. I've been editing professionally since tape to tape was the only way to edit, I learn new things all the time.
Part of most beginners' problems with a pro level program is learning things when you don't even know why you are learning them. Relax, experience will eventually take you to that place of; "Oh, that's why they do it that way." In the meantime, enjoy. I've used Premiere since v.5, for corporate and broadcast work, and it does just fine.
Part of most beginners' problems with a pro level program is learning things when you don't even know why you are learning them. Relax, experience will eventually take you to that place of; "Oh, that's why they do it that way." In the meantime, enjoy. I've used Premiere since v.5, for corporate and broadcast work, and it does just fine.
Strange thing about my first encounter with Vegas is that while it is a video editing program, my first experience with it was as an audio editing software.
I had sent a tv show I produced to a new audio post house and the guy there was using Vegas to edit the dialogue and M&E tracks.
I was intrigued by the software he was using because up till then I had only used Pro Tools for such work so I asked him and he told me what it was.
After watching him use it for a couple of days, I decided to get a copy for myself and try it. It was then ver 4 and I enjoyed using it so much it became my main editing tool for 2 years after that!
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Resource Centre for Digital Video Productions
I had sent a tv show I produced to a new audio post house and the guy there was using Vegas to edit the dialogue and M&E tracks.
I was intrigued by the software he was using because up till then I had only used Pro Tools for such work so I asked him and he told me what it was.
After watching him use it for a couple of days, I decided to get a copy for myself and try it. It was then ver 4 and I enjoyed using it so much it became my main editing tool for 2 years after that!
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www.digitalvideolessons.com
Resource Centre for Digital Video Productions
Geez some of these programs are damn expensive, but I guess you get what you are paying for with all of the features and the near pro design results you get. I wonder if any of them offer studen discounts:P
Don't know if there are any student discounts on these software. You have to check it out by asking.
If you're a student and can't afford FCP, you can try getting Final Cut Express. It has most of the functions of FCP but scaled down. It's also a good way to learn the software as they both operate the same way.
Sometime ago I landed a part-time job teaching FCP to a bunch of students. At that point in time, I had no experience with the software at all as I was still on Vegas, so I installed a copy of Final Cut Express onto my Mac and learnt it from there. When I went into the classroom, it was no problem at all.
I think FCE is about $150?
Or, if you really can't afford these softwares but want to try editing, why not use iMovie or Windows Movie Maker?
If you're a student and can't afford FCP, you can try getting Final Cut Express. It has most of the functions of FCP but scaled down. It's also a good way to learn the software as they both operate the same way.
Sometime ago I landed a part-time job teaching FCP to a bunch of students. At that point in time, I had no experience with the software at all as I was still on Vegas, so I installed a copy of Final Cut Express onto my Mac and learnt it from there. When I went into the classroom, it was no problem at all.
I think FCE is about $150?
Or, if you really can't afford these softwares but want to try editing, why not use iMovie or Windows Movie Maker?
I started with pinnacle software which was ok to start;
but after a while you want to get more out of your films and you have really have to use professional software.
I have a pc and i use sony vegas
but after a while you want to get more out of your films and you have really have to use professional software.
I have a pc and i use sony vegas
It's all a matter of opinion if you ask me.
Personally, I prefer Final Cut Pro and Adobe Premiere Pro.
It all depends on what you're going to do. If you're just going to make a simple home video, Windows Movie Maker can sure do the trick. but when it comes to simple color correction, it falls in the category of worthless.
While sony Vegas is cheap and good, I'd still pick Premiere over it, but that's mainly because I'm experienced in Premiere, and not in Vegas.
If you have access to use a mac for this, stick to Final Cut Pro/Express or Avid Xpress. those seem to do the trick. There's always iMovie, but that's creepishly similiar to windows movie maker.
Personally, I prefer Final Cut Pro and Adobe Premiere Pro.
It all depends on what you're going to do. If you're just going to make a simple home video, Windows Movie Maker can sure do the trick. but when it comes to simple color correction, it falls in the category of worthless.
While sony Vegas is cheap and good, I'd still pick Premiere over it, but that's mainly because I'm experienced in Premiere, and not in Vegas.
If you have access to use a mac for this, stick to Final Cut Pro/Express or Avid Xpress. those seem to do the trick. There's always iMovie, but that's creepishly similiar to windows movie maker.
Cheers guys. Helped me out. I'm trying Vegas right now, I'll put some videos up soon of the Big Day Out 07
I use Final cut pro HD in my production house,
it's cheap but very capable and expendable.
We even hooked up with 2 X-serve raids in order to handle
1920 HDTV 4:4:4 sources.
it's cheap but very capable and expendable.
We even hooked up with 2 X-serve raids in order to handle
1920 HDTV 4:4:4 sources.
Adobe Premiere Pro works out really well for me. I quite enjoy it.
Yes - Adobe Premier is a good one for Professionals and a good app for people who want to become professionals too....
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Anybody have experience w/microsoft movie maker vs imovie? I have access to both and only have time to learn 1 to start teaching soon. Any ideas?
My lab has more Macs but we have a number of PCs too. I am wondering where to put my $$. Upgrade mac or add PCs?
Thoughts , Ideas?...
My lab has more Macs but we have a number of PCs too. I am wondering where to put my $$. Upgrade mac or add PCs?
Thoughts , Ideas?...
Have you used Windows Movie Maker? I have little time and access to both Movie Maker & an old (system 9) Imovie.
| tiel_99 wrote: |
| I agree.
Use whatever software you are familiar with. If you are the only person who is going to use that machine or software, it really shouldn't matter what you are using because the only thing which really counts is the final video, and that you can achieve with almost any editing software from Windows Movie Maker or iMovie right up to Final Cut Pro. I'm teaching a Video Production course right now and I'm making the students use iMovie because it is a short course and the software is easy to learn. However, if you are investing in a software for which you are not the only user and you may be employing freelance video editors to work on it, then it is best to get something which is commonly used so that you are not restricted or held ransom by any editors because they are the only few people on the market who know how to edit with that software. Common NLE's are Final Cut Pro, Adobe Premiere, Sony Vegas, and AVID. I prefer FCP, but Vegas is equally good. I'm not using it because I'm on a Mac platform, but when I used to be on Windows, it was the NLE of my choice. However, not many editors in my territory know Vegas, and since I hire freelance editors regularly, I have to use FCP. Hope this helps you. |
| sabe wrote: |
| Have you used Windows Movie Maker? I have little time and access to both Movie Maker & an old (system 9) Imovie. |
While Windows Movie Maker is good for doing quick home editing, it is far from a professional program. Don't get me wrong, I think the WMM has come a long way and can actually produce some nice-looking results with very little effort.
AVID is the most well known professional edit system, although Final Cut Pro and Adobe Premiere have managed to jump into the category of 'professional' since they became more sophisticated and some feature film editors started using them.
If you're going to use a professional editor then I recommend you watch some tutorials, as otherwise you're likely to get lost and struggle to do much early on. Good luck!
I use photoshop CS2
I have any budget.. i hope.. lol
I have any budget.. i hope.. lol
Final Cut is used in hollywood-scale production, but it's cost is low enough for budget production. I enjoy using it for editing.
iMovie is not for serious editing, but if you're just looking to import, do some minor cuts, and burn, it's good.
iMovie is not for serious editing, but if you're just looking to import, do some minor cuts, and burn, it's good.
I just found a open-source program called Jahshaka. Have any of you used this product? You can't beat the price and I can put it on all of my computers and not worry about cost.
Any ideas about how good it is? Cost is important. My budget is smaller this year and I want to put as many tools in the hands into the hands of my students as I am able to do.
Does anybody know any good sound/song making software that is not expensive? I want to get/make background music that is not pirated.
Thanks
Any ideas about how good it is? Cost is important. My budget is smaller this year and I want to put as many tools in the hands into the hands of my students as I am able to do.
Does anybody know any good sound/song making software that is not expensive? I want to get/make background music that is not pirated.
Thanks
Adobe Premiere Pro, that is very good! 
Of course Final Cut Pro might be better!
Of course Final Cut Pro might be better! | Snakez wrote: |
| I use photoshop CS2
I have any budget.. i hope.. lol |
Do you really use photoshop or do you mean Premiere Elements. I did not know that PS could edit video. Is this a new feature? If it is that is great & I will look into this one.
| GProject wrote: | ||
While Windows Movie Maker is good for doing quick home editing, it is far from a professional program. Don't get me wrong, I think the WMM has come a long way and can actually produce some nice-looking results with very little effort. AVID is the most well known professional edit system, although Final Cut Pro and Adobe Premiere have managed to jump into the category of 'professional' since they became more sophisticated and some feature film editors started using them. If you're going to use a professional editor then I recommend you watch some tutorials, as otherwise you're likely to get lost and struggle to do much early on. Good luck! |
Have any idea how the pinnacle products fit into this mix. My budget will allow me to get either pinnacle studio, Premiere Elements, or something similar. Any thoughts?
It's been my experience that if you're using a Mac, Final Cut Pro is the best way to go. It has a very friendly user-interface while having features that can put some very professional looking effects on your videos. If you're using Windows, I've heard that Adobe Premiere Pro is the best. though I myself have never used it, from what I hear it is basically a Windows version of Final Cut Pro.
Adobe Premiere/Vegas is for all the 'home users'.
Some more advanced programs would be Apple Shake, or Fusion (compositing programs) as I've discovered. These are much more advanced and yield hollywood results.
Some more advanced programs would be Apple Shake, or Fusion (compositing programs) as I've discovered. These are much more advanced and yield hollywood results.
Depends what kind of editing your doing I guess but I've got into a genre which kind of pushes all editing software to it's limits (abstract/experimental/not good for epilepsy sufferers) and I needed something reliable - Adobe Premiere Pro (either 1.5 or 2.0).
If your learning already with that try and master the GUI, that's my advise.
If your learning already with that try and master the GUI, that's my advise.
Depends on your budget and time for initial setup. If you want free and have some time and mabee a extra computer you might try a program called Cinelerra which is more or less like Premier but free. Catch? you have to install it on linux ONLY but it is worth the install of linux, especially since linux installs have become more point and click. I have used it a little and it is Extremely good and has a familiar interface to Premier. For windows i would go with Premier and mac Final Cut studio since final cut is used as the main mac editor and becoming a standard. Also just to give yourself a overview of Cinelerra check out http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3 and for screen shots and features in action such as live on screen chroma key check out http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra_shots.php3. I don't know if you have seen Premier CS3 but it has the feature called record to disk so what you camera sees is recorded live and chroma key can be applied on the fly, well Cinelerra has had this for months before CS3.
I love Adobe Premiere Pro. Its easy... and so good! try it!
I don't know where to ask this question. It is sooooo... low tech. I have a video player that connects to an RCA cable that I have to boost the signal. I don't know how to boost a video signal if it uses an RCA jack. I would rather not have to get svideo switcher, cables & boost.
make a new post somewhere else, why do you need to boost the signal?
and either way you'll end you needing to by something.
and either way you'll end you needing to by something.
im using Camatesia studio
its not really and amazing program but its fine for a noob (like me lol)
its not really and amazing program but its fine for a noob (like me lol)
| xbcd wrote: |
| make a new post somewhere else, why do you need to boost the signal?
and either way you'll end you needing to by something. |
I am in a classroom and have 4 TVs running from a low cost dvd. It often does not put a signal that is good enough to power all tvs. I tried to put a radio shack signal booster on it and had little luck. I have no budget for technology and need to rig some type of fix.
Sony Vegas is pretty sweet, if you're on Windows.
Overall, Final Cut Pro for Mac is THE BEST!
Take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_video_editing_software for a comparison of different video editors. And yes, you're welcome.
Overall, Final Cut Pro for Mac is THE BEST!
Take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_video_editing_software for a comparison of different video editors. And yes, you're welcome.
I personally use Adobe Premiere Pro. I really like it. And the whole Adobe suite. After Effects is amazing as well.
At the moment I'm using Premiere, but I am thinking of getting Vegas. Can anyone advise me on whether or not I should do this, where to get it reasonably cheaply etc. ?
From the topic header, it looked like you were asking about a 'text' editing program!!! I use Notepad++, BTW. And no, I do not use a movie editor; I used the Window's movie maker once, but stopped the efforts there...
I am now using Final Cut Pro at work - It really is a very cool bit of kit.
Having been a Vegas lover for years, seeing FCP in action day to day is slowlly makihng me realise why it's the indiustry standard. - Its plainly very very good. Its all the little touches that amount up greatley to make my job as an editor faster and more efficient.
Having been a Vegas lover for years, seeing FCP in action day to day is slowlly makihng me realise why it's the indiustry standard. - Its plainly very very good. Its all the little touches that amount up greatley to make my job as an editor faster and more efficient.
I have been using Vegas for a few years now as it's been what's been installed on the computers at my school. I've never been a big video editor before so I was fine with that. But now that I'm looking more into it, I'll probably switch over to Final Cut Pro.
Use whatever software you are familiar with. If you are the only person who is going to use that machine or software, it really shouldn't matter what you are using because the only thing which really counts is the final video, and that you can achieve with almost any editing software from Windows Movie Maker or iMovie right up to Final Cut Pro.
I'm teaching a Video Production course right now and I'm making the students use iMovie because it is a short course and the software is easy to learn.
However, if you are investing in a software for which you are not the only user and you may be employing freelance video editors to work on it, then it is best to get something which is commonly used so that you are not restricted or held ransom by any editors because they are the only few people on the market who know how to edit with that software.
Common NLE's are Final Cut Pro, Adobe Premiere, Sony Vegas, and AVID.
I prefer FCP, but Vegas is equally good. I'm not using it because I'm on a Mac platform, but when I used to be on Windows, it was the NLE of my choice.
However, not many editors in my territory know Vegas, and since I hire freelance editors regularly, I have to use FCP.
Hope this helps you.
I'm teaching a Video Production course right now and I'm making the students use iMovie because it is a short course and the software is easy to learn.
However, if you are investing in a software for which you are not the only user and you may be employing freelance video editors to work on it, then it is best to get something which is commonly used so that you are not restricted or held ransom by any editors because they are the only few people on the market who know how to edit with that software.
Common NLE's are Final Cut Pro, Adobe Premiere, Sony Vegas, and AVID.
I prefer FCP, but Vegas is equally good. I'm not using it because I'm on a Mac platform, but when I used to be on Windows, it was the NLE of my choice.
However, not many editors in my territory know Vegas, and since I hire freelance editors regularly, I have to use FCP.
Hope this helps you.
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