Seriously though. I think there might be something in that Alien abduction thing. Also how do we know that a selected few have not been operated on so that they are in fact hybrids. That is to say they have some alien aspect to them or they are the children or grand-children of similarly treated persons? 
Alien abductions are crap. They are not real, they are just like succubus's and incubuses.
First the aliens, they are ridiculous. They have big eyes indicative of a dark world but such a world would be very cold and they have no fur or blubber. There body's are week, thin arms and legs indicative a low gravity world but a low gravity world would have a thin atmosphere but the alien don;t have barrel chests needed to to get enough air (or what ever they breath) to survive and with such body's they wouldn't be able to survive in earths gravity.
Then theres the methods used to "gain access to the memory's", hypnoses is very, very unreliable. Even if the hypnotist doesn't influence the person, they will still be influenced by there own beliefs, ideas and imaginations. And there far too human, alien would not look like that, they would not be humanoid, they might not even be animals, we might not have a classification for them yet.
And alien human hybrids? That is imposable. Two species have to be closely related for it to be possible for a hybridisation and even then it has problems and most hybrids are infertile. It is imposable to hybridise two species that are not closely related, hybridising two species that evolved on different planets are not possible.
Alien abductions are just false memory. Human memory is far from infallible.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_ritual_abuse
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_memory
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_in_the_mall_technique
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis | The Conspirator wrote: |
Alien abductions are crap. They are not real, they are just like succubus's and incubuses.
First the aliens, they are ridiculous. They have big eyes indicative of a dark world but such a world would be very cold and they have no fur or blubber. There body's are week, thin arms and legs indicative a low gravity world but a low gravity world would have a thin atmosphere but the alien don;t have barrel chests needed to to get enough air (or what ever they breath) to survive and with such body's they wouldn't be able to survive in earths gravity.
Then theres the methods used to "gain access to the memory's", hypnoses is very, very unreliable. Even if the hypnotist doesn't influence the person, they will still be influenced by there own beliefs, ideas and imaginations. And there far too human, alien would not look like that, they would not be humanoid, they might not even be animals, we might not have a classification for them yet.
And alien human hybrids? That is imposable. Two species have to be closely related for it to be possible for a hybridisation and even then it has problems and most hybrids are infertile. It is imposable to hybridise two species that are not closely related, hybridising two species that evolved on different planets are not possible.
Alien abductions are just false memory. Human memory is far from infallible.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_ritual_abuse
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_memory
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_in_the_mall_technique
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis |
Aren't you generalizing aliens a little bit too much? I mean obviously you're going by the little green or grey/blue men version which is widely known. I mean for all we know they look like us, or they look like octopus or they're derived from sharks rather than apes.There is allot of possibility's or what they might look like, but us, no. They will not be humanoid.
And apes and sharks exist only on earth.
Conspirator thanks for your comments and interesting links. Hmmm I tend to go along with the QrafTee who says you've automatically assumed that alien life looks like the stereotype that we have all become familiar with. In which case all your comments about body shape are good extrapolations.
Interestingly not a shred of physical evidence has ever been uncovered from numerous abductions and even crashes (Even the new Mexico 1947 crash). So this underlines your hypothesis that aliens are poppycock.
The crop circle thing is still inconclusive and any physical evidence is inconclusive as far as I understand it.
However I do think that anything that can travel millions of light years is likely capable of being 100% certain that they can visit undetected.
I also think that these creatures could be very similar to us genetically and rather like elements forming on a new planet the humanoid version of life always evolves. If you compare the age of the earth and moon (4.5 Billion years) to one year, Then intelligent Man appears 12 seconds to midnight on the 31st December on the last day of that year.
Maybe we have 15 second humans and maybe these are our Gods...
Maybe your talking to one now...
KLATO BARADA NIKTOO 
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| Conspirator thanks for your comments and interesting links. Hmmm I tend to go along with the QrafTee who says you've automatically assumed that alien life looks like the stereotype that we have all become familiar with. In which case all your comments about body shape are good extrapolations. |
I didn't assume anything about what alien would look like, I simply said they would not be humanoid. I don't know what alien might look like.
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| The crop circle thing is still inconclusive and any physical evidence is inconclusive as far as I understand it. |
No, its people and only people. That has been demonstrated.
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If they were then odds are they would be related to us some how.
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Humanoid alien is very implausible, we evolved this look through a variety of factors (the look of out ancestors, the conditions) but on another world those factors would not be there. Different atmospheric pressure, different gravity, different ancestry.BTW, don't refer someone to a link that is Wikipedia-related. Wikipedia as you should know is not a reliable source. Yes, I use it, yes many people use it, but it's not a reliable source nonetheless.
So you're saying out of billions of other star systems out there, there won't be a planet that is somewhat similar to Earth? They won't use the same building blocks as us? No atoms? No cells? No mammels, reptiles, aquatic creatures? Nothing remotely like a shark? Nothing remotely like an ape? How about simple-celled organisms like bacteria? Now surely there's something similar, right?
I am sure that there is life in space, other than here, but as to them been intelligent enought to travel to here, that's another question...
And if they are intelligent enought to travel here, why wouldnt they make first contact ? I mean, travelling billions of lightyear just to spy?! Surely, we are not that interesting!
I tend to agree with what The Conspirator said...
(and the crop circle are so manmade!)
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BTW, don't refer someone to a link that is Wikipedia-related. Wikipedia as you should know is not a reliable source. Yes, I use it, yes many people use it, but it's not a reliable source nonetheless.
So you're saying out of billions of other star systems out there, there won't be a planet that is somewhat similar to Earth? They won't use the same building blocks as us? No atoms? No cells? No mammels, reptiles, aquatic creatures? Nothing remotely like a shark? Nothing remotely like an ape? How about simple-celled organisms like bacteria? Now surely there's something similar, right? |
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And were should I look? Google? Sure, find a bunch of crap not based on reality.
Wikipedia is not the best but its far more reliable than just typing something in a search engine. Unlike google, Wikipedia actually has standards for reliability."How do you know i'm not from outer space?"
-Because You wasn't on the spaceship, but I was. 
I got abducted by aliens. They all looked like Jessica Alba. I felt really lucky but the anus probe hurt a lot though.
There are billions of planets ,stars,...in this universe.Many of them(of which we don't know)might house other beings.So 'aliens' generally is a common noun indicating a huge class of beings.As such,aliens are of different types and different looks;but surely not humanoid.
yep you are an alien to your parents genes, because your mom cheated on your dad thus producing characteristics that neither might have 
My 7th grade English teacher presented this dilema to me. He said he was an alien and he had to tell our class for some reason. It was in context with the weird stories we were reading, but it made me think. Maby we do have aliens living among us. I mean, how could you tell.
You very well may be an alien my friend, I have no way to tell you apart from humans because you look exactly the same as us. Maby genetic tests would reveal you?
I could probably distinguish you by your lifespan. An alien should live longer than a human?
Kevin
If there's any alien on earth i have no doubt it will appear on every tv show, so if you're an alien we'd know you.
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| Interestingly not a shred of physical evidence has ever been uncovered from numerous abductions and even crashes (Even the new Mexico 1947 crash). So this underlines your hypothesis that aliens are poppycock. |
The fact that we have no evidence for aliens undermines the hypothesis that they don't exist ?????
Do people read what they say? I'm not trying to pick a fight, I just think this sentence is really self-contradictory. Especially because you talk about the New Mexico 1947 crash (and others???) as if it were fact, which would be evidence.We know there are no aliens (originally time-travellers, but the same logic applies) because none have come to visit us.
OTOH, everyone who has claimed to be an alien (or time-traveller) has been considered as crazy because there is no evidence.
Than sound like circular logic to you or what?
It's not totally impossible. I mean I had this dream, a while back, where aliens are all over this planet. They aren't green, slimy and what not. They look like people and they are slowly breaking down the o-zone layer and causing slow destruction. They started the thought-train that aliens are actually green, and travel in UFOs, so that we'd never suspect.
Each of us (humans, sharks, bacteria, whatever) is built to best suit our environments. Traits that help us get adapted over time through natural selection; traits that don't remain only part of a minority. Because of this, every organism on Earth is vastly different.
The chances of there existing another planet with the exact same characteristics as Earth is very slim, if not impossible. It would have to be the exact distance away from a star of the same type, have the exact same atmospheric proportions, and same land mass, among many other things. Look at global warming: even a degree difference in average temperatures can produce drastic results. In order for there to be life similar to ours, there would have to be another planet out there that is EXACTLY the same, with not one difference. Thus, finding another "you" out there is statistically impossible.
With that said, the reason you won't find a human/alien hybrid is because our immune systems are set up to recognize and destroy foreign antigens. Our immune systems reject even from other humans. Something from another planet is most definitely very very foreign! In order to create a hybrid, we'd have to surpress the subject's immune system, and that would create other problems...
Your middle school teacher was probably not an alien because he looked human, ate human things, spoke a human language. If you took him apart, you'd see that he's made up human cells, and eventually, proteins and amino acids. I wouldn't suggest taking him apart, however. Humans aren't very easy to put back together again. If he came from another planet, he would have a totally different body composition. He would most likely not even be able to survive Earth.
By the way, searching for little green men is sooo yesterday. These days, scientists look for microbes when searching for extraterrestrial life. 
I know you are not from outer space because you would not be spending your time in frihost getting credits for free webspace LOL
A couple of things I picked up on.
Someone said - Why travel millions of light years just to spy?
What do you think we would do? On past evidence we would go and take everything we could for ourselves. So the first part of that would be to keep the element of surprise. Even if the intensions are entirley peaceful - if we were visiting another planet we wouldn't give ourselves away until we were really sure that they weren't going to try their hardest to destroy us.
So I think, yes, if a race has travelled millions of light years the first thing they are going to do is spy on us. Observe how we interact. Try and guess what would happen if someone popped up and said:
'I am superior to you. I don't want to hurt you honest. You have to trust me that I won't kill you' The first thing we would do as humans is distrust them and try and make sure we could 'defend ourselves' and then we'd fight them.
Also - crop circles - not 100% sure but I think there are a few examples when extremely detailed designs have turned up in such a short time span that none of the self confessed crop circle makers could do it. Various hoaxers have tried to demonstrate they could but when they have been commissioned to do anything detailed they need days of preperation with sticks in the ground etc. to get the required geometric prescision and even then they are obviously not as 'perfect' as some of the examples that have appeared.
So 'some' crop circles are proven to be man-made.
But there are some that haven't been proven to be man-made. It only takes one to not be man-made. Just cos 99% are man-made does not invalidate the possibility that 1% are extra-terrestial.
Not that I'm saying they are - just that they haven't all been proven to be man-made - the debate is still very much open.
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Why would you think that aliens would not look humanoid?
The basic configuration has been proven to be the best among many different 'options'.
A large brain is needed (or brains I suppose but 1 is the minimum needed).
The body must be capable of building tools (dextorous hands or grippers of some sort).
The body must be physically capable early on in evolution of defending itself with basic weapons (rocks etc.) against predators.
Anything more than two legs is inefficient (1 has less balance, 3+ is unneccessary)
Same for arms and hands. (1 cannot manipulate effectively and 3+ becomes too complicated to control and the brain capacity available for intelligent thought is reduced)
So any dominant species needs one brain (which means one head to simplify matters), 2 arms and 2 legs.
Then it must be large enough to defeat its largest predetors (depends on gravity and therefore palnet mass but won't be wildly different from ours) but not so large as it needs an excess of food to live.
If any of these criteria are not filled then evolution will dictate that they will become filled or that particular species will not survive.
Anyway - my tuppence.
David.
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Someone said - Why travel millions of light years just to spy?
What do you think we would do? On past evidence we would go and take everything we could for ourselves.David. |
Well yes and no imo, look at what NASA is doing in the Solar system right now, just spying on a lot of fairly empty planets with a lot of very big orbiting telescopes... so there is a spying phase, because there is useful information out there, then of course we go and grab everything, like you say...
On balance I think your alll aliens and I'm the only human left 
...In think people who believe there are aliens out there on some distant planets have imagination. Those who think the aliens are here are imo delusional. They watched too many movies and they may have some mental problems in general.
There are no aliens!
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| Each of us (humans, sharks, bacteria, whatever) is built to best suit our environments. Traits that help us get adapted over time through natural selection; traits that don't remain only part of a minority. Because of this, every organism on Earth is vastly different. |
ALL living forms seem different but are closely related. ALL are made up from cells which contain DNA made up of the same 4 bases. It's like dogs. They come in all forms, colors and sizes but there is only one species.
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By the way, searching for little green men is sooo yesterday. These days, scientists look for microbes when searching for extraterrestrial life. |
Good luck to them! I'll bet they don't find anything because there are no aliens: bacteria-like or not!Who knows, Maybe we are aliens doesn't explain the fact why?
*Going to try to remember this
The geometrical points that are on Mars {I believe, I can't remember} are the same geometrical points as the Washington beltway something to that effect. But of course if the Mars landing was fake then who can we trust for a believable satellite photo. How do we know that's not fake? Both show the satellite photos. I just have to remember where I saw that. And right now, I don't have time to look it up but I'm sure someone else has seen it around the Internet. Ask one of the conspirators. I think the MIB are humans keeping us aliens in line. Why else would we need them? Not like any of us gets hired by MIB it's all these secretive people that get hired.
lol
I khow u r not from outer space.Bcoz if you were from outer space u would not ask us this question...
you are surfing on the WWW (world wide web), real aliens surf on the UWW (universe wide web)
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In think people who believe there are aliens out there on some distant planets have imagination. Those who think the aliens are here are imo delusional. They watched too many movies and they may have some mental problems in general.
There are no aliens! |
Thats kind of a sweeping statement.
Are you sure there aren't any?
In all the trillions of solar systems in an almost infinite universe there is not a single other planet that has life on it? Not one teeny weeny microbe? Not even a single cell exists outside our fragile atmosphere?
I think anyone who thinks that is delusional.
David.wooow, i'm from outer space too!
Every comes from out of space, because first, the only thing what was there was space
Now I am serious, there is a theory that 'We' are built to be food. This concept is used in the game Prey, you should check it out. we all are... so grow up and deal with it!
