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How are you preventing spam bots to spam your forums





Hunterseaker
Hi all,

I don't know if this is the right forum to post it, sorry if it's not.....
Here is my question:
How do you guys prevent spam bots spamming your forums full....
I use phpbb2 and I have to delete more then 10 spam topics/posts a day.
They are all about Viagra, porn etc....
I allready disabled guest posting and when you register you have to enter a code.....
tho still spambots are able to register and post spam.
So how do you guys stop the spambots? You just delete the spam every day, or do you have other trics?
Pls tell us which forum software you're using.
Animal
Here on Frihost, we get a load of these spam bots. Generally, the staff just remove the topics as soon as they arrive.

However, if you're particularly skilled in php, you could modify the registration system so that it's "non-standard" and it confuses the bots. For example, in addition to the standard captcha image (where the users need to enter a code), you could add another field that says something like "What is 10 + 1 ?" and if nothing is entered, or the user doesn't enter "11" then the registration is refused. Another option would be to add a list of radio buttons or check boxes where you ask the user to select one particular button or box to continue with the registration.

The above would all help, but would take a knowledge of php coding. And no system is entirely infallible - sometimes the "bots" are actually people who are paid to go round forums and post junk. There's not really any way to stop them.
darrenpaul
I just have administrator verification turned on. The Bots names are normally easy to spot. Its completely eradicated all spam problems we had before.
Hunterseaker
darrenpaul wrote:
I just have administrator verification turned on. The Bots names are normally easy to spot. Its completely eradicated all spam problems we had before.

Hmm that is a good solution indeed, tho the main disadvantage is that when a admin have to aprove the member 1st, the member can't be active right after registration.
Tho it keeps the spambots away so I might do the same....
pampoon
I'm no pro at keeping away bots, but frankly I would go with what animal said instead of turning admin verification on. Mainly because in the beginning it will slow the growth of the forum. Plus if the admin for some reason is absent, let's say a week, then the people who applied for registration are kept waiting and might forget about your forum.

Though, this is you choice and I am merely giving my opinion.

God bless,
Pampoon
Hunterseaker
pampoon wrote:
I'm no pro at keeping away bots, but frankly I would go with what animal said instead of turning admin verification on. Mainly because in the beginning it will slow the growth of the forum. Plus if the admin for some reason is absent, let's say a week, then the people who applied for registration are kept waiting and might forget about your forum.

Though, this is you choice and I am merely giving my opinion.

God bless,
Pampoon

I'm suppose you're right, I might gonna script something to double check for bots....
Or when someone allready has a script like that for phpbb2 pls contact me....
co2socs
Hi;

Me too before I had problems of this kind. You have few solutions to deal with this problem;

(1) Simply look around web and download a service with anti junk spy add ons. You probably have to pay for some, but you can always find some cheap. There are also some addons that just automatically delete topics of desired 'Word Content'. Unfortunately, I don't really remember which add-on it is, but I strongly recommand you to look around the web!

(2) You can download another kind of forum and tryout them all, maybe the spambot are only configurated to phpbb forums....

(3) (Which, if you don't want to look too much around the web or pay, is the best) Just ask some friends to be moderator on your forum;
Get friends that are partially on from a period of time. For example you are on the forum from 1-5 your friend from 5 - 8 another friend from 8-12 etc

Well... I hope you will an answer with that!
Good luck.

-John-
James Yu
I am not a php expert, here is what they use in a very large chinese forum www.tianya.cn

1. they sub-divide the forum, so each one should a relative small admistrative domain.
2. they hire web admin from internet, it is a glory job, these admins response killing spams in their domain.

From network perspective, if you can trace the IP and block the IP or even the IP range of the spam, it would be good.
Hunterseaker
James Yu wrote:
I am not a php expert, here is what they use in a very large chinese forum www.tianya.cn

1. they sub-divide the forum, so each one should a relative small admistrative domain.
2. they hire web admin from internet, it is a glory job, these admins response killing spams in their domain.

From network perspective, if you can trace the IP and block the IP or even the IP range of the spam, it would be good.


thnx for the solutions guys, im gonna try some addons,
about the ip block: the ip's are different everytime....
tribe
I was out of town for a week on my Cleveland Indians fan page after the season ended, and I cameback to 200 bots and spammed threads. I had to shut down my board to take an hour outta my day to erase it... Right now I have no idea what to do, I am not on enough to use ADMIN Verification.. Any other way?
Agent ME
It would be weird if there was a spam bot that posted suggestions on how to get rid of spam bots Razz

Make sure to use email (user) verification combined with CAPTCHAS (sp?).
DynamicNames
Well, if a user of mine were to try to riot my boards with alot of spam, I made it that certain users can only post in a certain amount of time. That would obviously get them frustrated. But, if I were just dealing with regular users spamming my forum, and not making a considerable riot with it, then I just get my mods to delete the posts or edit the post and give them a warning. If they fail to comply with the warnings, they get banned.

That's my basic way of stopping spam, so having some mods or alot of mods could be helpful in keeping a forum in order.
Hunterseaker
DynamicNames wrote:
Well, if a user of mine were to try to riot my boards with alot of spam, I made it that certain users can only post in a certain amount of time. That would obviously get them frustrated. But, if I were just dealing with regular users spamming my forum, and not making a considerable riot with it, then I just get my mods to delete the posts or edit the post and give them a warning. If they fail to comply with the warnings, they get banned.

That's my basic way of stopping spam, so having some mods or alot of mods could be helpful in keeping a forum in order.


You're talking about real people who spam, I talk about spam bots, you can't warn them, You can ban them tho the ip/username is different everytime.....
I can deal with normal spammers, tho the bots are very anoying.
Ranti84
I use the SMF build for my forum and dled a mod that supposedly help blocks it. I'm not entirely sure what it does to be honest. I want to learn php and css...once I do I think do what Animal suggested with the extra field.

That...or block the certain parts of the bot names in the name restriction thing. That might do something >_>;
TeenZine
There is a post in the suggestions forum to that has alot of ways people suggested to prevent a bot to. Just for your info. But I like a way I just saw on a designer forum where you have to post like 15 posts befor your aloud to post a url
Crazy_Canuck
I know nothing about these things, but our site admin does and she installed Easy_BotStopper__100_mod on our phpBB forum.

Has worked like a charm, although I personally get quite a kick out of many of our spambot friends. Some of them are poets, you know. You ever check out the original blogspot blogs of these? Poetry, I tell you.
hlavco
An easy way I've seen work is to not allow users to make new topics until they already have two or three posts. Spammers usually don't post in existing topics, so if they can't make new ones, they'll usually go away.
Kaisonic
My forums are so dead, even spambots don't bother posting. :-/
darvit
I help moderate a forum with very young members [usually 12, 13], so our main concern is the content of these bot threads. Sad

Our admin has made very strict word filters [to block the images and URLs] and has enabled e-mail verification.

Also, try banning these e-mail address sets:

  • *@cashette.com
  • *@mail.ru
  • *@gawab.com
  • *@web.de


He's always said that he doesn't want to do admin verification because it would slow down forum growth, and would possibly turn away potential new members. He said this once, and I think this a very good insight:

Quote:

When you join a forum, you make up your mind in the first 5 minutes whether you are staying or not (Hence the massive list of members with 0 posts on every forum). The last thing I want to do is put people off in those crucial moments, by having to explain to them that they cant post threads/introductions yet.


The bots are still around, but thankfully, the images and URLs are blocked now. Smile The mods would simply have to delete them. Smile We've also warned the members about these spambots so that they would instead report them, and not reply to them. Laughing

PS: Our forums are on InvisionFree..
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