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Barrack HUSSEIN Obama
I've heard some of my friends discuss Barrack Obama's middle name, which in fact is Hussein. They were discussing whether it would make any affect on his 2008 chances. The only reason I can think of is a (often subconscious) fear of another race being elected as president. Do you think this will make any affect whatsoever?
I don't think it will have a too big affect, but the fact the he is an African American will decrease his chances drastically.
| TurkishGamer wrote: |
| I don't think it will have a too big affect, but the fact the he is an African American will decrease his chances drastically. |
The thing that helps him is, although African-American, he is quite fair-skinned for his race.
I think the fact that his middle name is hussein will have the opposite effect, he may get elected because everyone will be afraid to not vote for him because they don't want to seem racist, I personally don't think I will vote for him, just because of what I have heard of him (which isn't much) but right now I could go either way, although he may not be the canidate. I think nowadays, whites are gonna be more likely to vote for him, rather then against, though the race card may still be played if he comes close to losing (if he runs).
| Soulfire wrote: | ||
The thing that helps him is, although African-American, he is quite fair-skinned for his race. |
What does color matter, and FAIR-SKINNED would help him???
The way I see it, Obama has alot of chances of getting in the Ahum *white* house since much of colored America would love seeing a colored person getting into the white house. By the way... there are probably some white people that claim him since his mother was white. I guess he has equal chances on the colored and white side.
From what I hear, his anti-war view of things. Much people might like him. I guess that most people are sick and tired of "fighting another person's civil war". It costs money -- like the Americans have enough of that. There are enough problems inside the US to tackle and that money shouldn't be wasted in a war (that seems to last forever). It has been proven that alot of money has been put into failed projects (building of universities and stuff). ByTheWay, the middle east has been fighting wars with themselves eversince i was born and I don't think that it will change so why waste time in trying to change it.
... You never know, maybe he will be the next President...
I have heard some claims (not yet investigated or approved of by me) that Obama is, in fact Muslim. If that is the case, then I certainly think that this of all times in history is the wrong time for a Muslim president.
I do stress, however, that I'm not sure of the veracity of these claims.
I do stress, however, that I'm not sure of the veracity of these claims.
I do feel that it will have an effect on the election, but that will only be to uneducated voters. Anyone who really understands Obama and realizes that is only a baby in our government, will make a good decision on their own. I for one, will not be voting Obama.
| ocalhoun wrote: |
| I have heard some claims (not yet investigated or approved of by me) that Obama is, in fact Muslim. If that is the case, then I certainly think that this of all times in history is the wrong time for a Muslim president.
I do stress, however, that I'm not sure of the veracity of these claims. |
I guess you heard those claims from Fox News, which makes them not true. I just don't understand how people still watch it, when they are purposely telling lies. (I already heard them claim a lot of things which they definately knew were a lie.)
He's definately a christian, member of some afro-american church. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Church_of_Christ )
I somehow gotten to know Obama during John Kerry's presidential campaign. And he speaks really well in the crowd. I think many people believe in him and his color will not affect his candidacy. Im starting to like this guy.
| Bondings wrote: | ||
I guess you heard those claims from Fox News, which makes them not true. I just don't understand how people still watch it, when they are purposely telling lies. (I already heard them claim a lot of things which they definately knew were a lie.) He's definately a christian, member of some afro-american church. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Church_of_Christ ) |
In that case, I would prefer him as the democratic candidate. Although I would still vote republican (probably), I think the election is very likely to sway in favor of the democratic party (because of Bush's unpopularity), I would prefer to see the election lost to Obama rather than lost to yet another Clinton.
As the others stated, he will be very popular with black people and there will be a very minimal effect on white democrats and, even less effect on normal republics and a solidifying effect on the votes of var-out republicans.
I'm not sure how he'll go with different cultures and races; come to think I don't know what that demographic votes like now!
I'm not sure how he'll go with different cultures and races; come to think I don't know what that demographic votes like now!
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| What does color matter, and FAIR-SKINNED would help him??? |
It could have an effect.
And, if that was the deciding factor of the election, then I would understand why people hate Americans.
And, if that was the deciding factor of the election, then I would understand why people hate Americans.
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| once Abu Dharr got so angry with Bilal that he insulted him: "You son of a black woman!" Bilal came to the Messenger and reported the incident in tears. The Messenger reproached Abu Dharr: "Do you still have a sign of Jahiliya?" Full of repentance, Abu Dharr lay on the ground and said: "I won't raise my head (meaning he wouldn't get up) unless Bilal put his foot on it to pass over it." Bilal forgave him, and they were reconciled. Such was the brotherhood and humanity Islam created between once-savage people.
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http://en.fgulen.com/content/view/954/3/
1400 years ago Islam solved the race and color problem.
in this issue we have color blindness.
| Zampano wrote: |
| As the others stated, he will be very popular with black people and there will be a very minimal effect on white democrats |
Actually, Obama is more popular among white people than he is among black people, which is kind of odd.
| ocalhoun wrote: | ||
Actually, Obama is more popular among white people than he is among black people, which is kind of odd. |
That is strange . . . What are your sources? I want to know why this is.
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That is strange . . . What are your sources? I want to know why this is. |
His shares the same background as the white 'elite'/liberals. I mean education like Harvard and lots of money.
In his case, his colour is actually an advantage. According to polls, only something like less than 5% of the Americans would not choose a black candidate - in opposition to much higher percentages for other minorities like muslims and atheists.
SHOULD it have an effect? No.
WILL it have an effect? Yes. The fact that it's in discussion means it's already having an effect.
Also, the fact that Mr. Obama is an African-American puts him in an interesting place... He will secure the vast majority of the African-American voting bloc by default, may secure an unusually high percentage of other minorities by proxy, and will lose an unspecified dispersion of votes from racists in the white bloc. (I tried so hard not to call them racists, honest, but I couldn't think of a better title that would remain accurate.)
I am most keen to see who the DNC will decide to give their official nomination to. How interesting it is that a female contender and an African-American contender should be the competing frontrunners for the Democratic party, just as we come off of one of the worst rounds of Republican control in recent memory...
WILL it have an effect? Yes. The fact that it's in discussion means it's already having an effect.
Also, the fact that Mr. Obama is an African-American puts him in an interesting place... He will secure the vast majority of the African-American voting bloc by default, may secure an unusually high percentage of other minorities by proxy, and will lose an unspecified dispersion of votes from racists in the white bloc. (I tried so hard not to call them racists, honest, but I couldn't think of a better title that would remain accurate.)
I am most keen to see who the DNC will decide to give their official nomination to. How interesting it is that a female contender and an African-American contender should be the competing frontrunners for the Democratic party, just as we come off of one of the worst rounds of Republican control in recent memory...
...and interestingly enough, here is a non-scientific poll that lists many factors that might dissuade (or entice) voters, including being African-American, being a smoker, being a woman, etc.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/2/27/123625.shtml?s=ic
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/2/27/123625.shtml?s=ic
| Bondings wrote: |
| In his case, his colour is actually an advantage. According to polls, only something like less than 5% of the Americans would not choose a black candidate - in opposition to much higher percentages for other minorities like muslims and atheists. |
Are there how many % atheists in usa?
| palavra wrote: | ||
Are there how many % atheists in usa? |
It's less than 10%.
For the statistics that I mentioned, I meant the following poll. The results seem pretty weird to me, though. Over 50% would not vote for an atheist. http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/02/black_president_more_likely_than_mormon_or_atheist_/
I don't think the US is ready for a President Barak Obama. lets gets the whole President Hillary Clinton thingy out of the way first, then we can deal with the minority president. I would like to see him become president as much as most who like him, BUT IT AINT HAPPENIN' And if it does I will eat lemon juice for a month.
Americans want change, but not THAT much of a change! I maybe wrong. It would be wonderful to be proved wrong.
Americans want change, but not THAT much of a change! I maybe wrong. It would be wonderful to be proved wrong.
I would pay a dollar to see you eat lemon juice for a minute. Drinking lemon juice, on the other hand, is nothing special. XD
If it's either Clinton or Obama, I would have to say Obama is the more charismatic candidate. H. Clinton really needs to work on her approach, in my opinion. Again, can't wait to see who the DNC gets behind.
If it's either Clinton or Obama, I would have to say Obama is the more charismatic candidate. H. Clinton really needs to work on her approach, in my opinion. Again, can't wait to see who the DNC gets behind.
The fact that he isn't the WASP (White, Anglo-Saxon Protestant) will hurt his numbers, considering the majority of Americans fall into that line. Also, do not assume just because he is black, he will get the black vote. Clinton is still very popular among blacks. You don't see anyone assuming Clinton will get all the female vote.
It will be RUDY vs. CLINTON in 2008.
Polls say Rudy wins 51%-42%.
I tend to agree. There is no way I'd vote for Hillary, let alone any women for president in this era. Rudy is well loved for his work during the 9/11 dilemma.
I SUPPORT RUDY.
Polls say Rudy wins 51%-42%.
I tend to agree. There is no way I'd vote for Hillary, let alone any women for president in this era. Rudy is well loved for his work during the 9/11 dilemma.
I SUPPORT RUDY.
Fact is humans will be humans and they will always be biased -- it be based on color, religion, hometown and country and social\financial status...
Whites would rather vote for fellow whites and blacks for blacks -- its a natural tendency
I guess that it will never change...
EUTOPIA is a never-to-become-true DREAM
Whites would rather vote for fellow whites and blacks for blacks -- its a natural tendency
I guess that it will never change...
EUTOPIA is a never-to-become-true DREAM
I heard in the news today that Barrack Obama acknowledged that his great great great grandfather was a slave owner. How ironic...
^If you look far enough back in history, you'll see that nearly everybody who had lots of money was a slave owner. Given that he has some white ancestors, I don't see why that should be a shock.
(Heck, some of my ancestors were slave owners as well. For that matter, some of my relatives are still in support of the Confederacy.)
(Heck, some of my ancestors were slave owners as well. For that matter, some of my relatives are still in support of the Confederacy.)
Barack Hussein is at least 50% white.
His father (deceased) was a Muslim/Atheist.
With his mass appeal
could he be the anti-Christ?
His father (deceased) was a Muslim/Atheist.
With his mass appeal
could he be the anti-Christ?
To put it briefly, can't we all concede that any variable of a person's appearance- physical or social- will affect their perception in society?
Agreed?
Therefore, his name will have an effect!
Agreed?
Therefore, his name will have an effect!
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