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Oceans may rise over 4 1/2 feet by 2100

 


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The world's oceans may rise up to 140 cms (4 ft 7 in) by 2100 due to global warming, a faster than expected increase that could threaten low-lying coasts from Florida to Bangladesh, a researcher said on Thursday.

"The possibility of a faster sea level rise needs to be considered when planning adaptation measures such as coastal defenses," Stefan Rahmstorf of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research wrote in the journal Science.

His study, based on air temperatures and past sea level changes rather than computer models, suggested seas could rise by 50-140 cms by 2100, well above the 9-88 cms projected by the scientific panel that advises the
United Nations.

A rise of one meter might swamp low-lying Pacific islands such as Tuvalu, flood large areas of Bangladesh or Florida and threaten cities from New York to Buenos Aires.

"The computer models underestimate the sea level rise that has already occurred," Rahmstorf told Reuters of a rise of about 20 cms since 1900. "There are aspects of the physics we don't understand very well."

Sea level changes hinge on poorly understood factors such as the pace of the melt of glaciers and of ice sheets in Greenland and Antarctica. Water also expands as it gets warmer but the rate of penetration of heat to the depths is uncertain.

"My main conclusion is not that my forecast is better but that the uncertainty is much larger because of the different results you get with reasonable methods," he said.

Almost all climate scientists reckon the world is warming because of emissions of greenhouse gases from human use of fossil fuels in factories, power plants and cars. Rising temperatures could bring more droughts, floods and heatwaves.

TIDES

Rahmstorf likened his approach to predicting the height of tides along a coast, largely based on past observations.

He said seas were 120 meters below present levels during the last Ice Age 20,000 years ago and 25-35 meters higher than the present in the Pliocene epoch 3 million years ago.

In the Ice Age temperatures were 4-7 Celsius (7.2-12.6 Fahrenheit) cooler than today and 2-3 C (3.6-5.4F) warmer in the Pliocene. That suggested sea levels change 10-30 meters per rise or fall per degree Celsius (1.8F), over thousands of years.

The U.N. climate panel has projected temperatures will rise by 1.4-5.8C (2.5-10.4F) by 2100, mainly because of human influences.

"Sea level is a very slow component of the climate system so what we see by the year 2100 is just a small percentage of the total we are causing," Rahmstorf said.

There was still time for the world to cut greenhouse gas emissions but he said the slow pace of U.N. talks on extending the U.N.'s Kyoto Protocol beyond 2012 "gives you the impression that governments are not very well aware of how urgent the whole problem has become."

Coastal cities in the North Atlantic -- from New York to London -- could be especially vulnerable because a possible slowdown of ocean currents could also raise sea levels in the North Atlantic and lower them in the southern hemisphere.

"Any time you change ocean currents you change the sea surface...if you slow down the North Atlantic current you get a rise in the North Atlantic," Rahmstorf said.

Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061214/sc_nm/climate_oceans_dc


now that's some interesting as well as alarming(to some extent) news, isn't it???
spam
all of global warming is alarming don't you think? To me it's scarier what they said also this week that the north polar ice cap will probably all have melted by 2050... and the worst is that even if we were to stop producing CO2 tomorrow it probably would still happen, because CO2 stays in the atmosphere for 50 years before its taken out again by natural pocesses.
Sneemaster
Why don't scientists simply design multiple CO2 to O2 converter towers posted near large concentrations of carbon dioxide emissions. They could use possibly small UV lasers to heat incoming air into ions(or even a plasma) which would split CO2 into various components (carbon and 2 oxygens). Of course this would require lots of energy, but better than flooding and killing off all lifeforms on earth.
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Sneemaster wrote:
Why don't scientists simply design multiple CO2 to O2 converter towers posted near large concentrations of carbon dioxide emissions. They could use possibly small UV lasers to heat incoming air into ions(or even a plasma) which would split CO2 into various components (carbon and 2 oxygens). Of course this would require lots of energy, but better than flooding and killing off all lifeforms on earth.

That would cost billion of dollars and take a long time to build. It would be cheaper and more piratical to use less polluting things.
Sikon
Sneemaster wrote:
Why don't scientists simply design multiple CO2 to O2 converter towers posted near large concentrations of carbon dioxide emissions. They could use possibly small UV lasers to heat incoming air into ions(or even a plasma) which would split CO2 into various components (carbon and 2 oxygens).


The energy involved in converting the CO2 emissions back to C + O2 would be excessive. For example, consider a coal power plant. If you try to use its power output to convert its CO2 emissions back into their original carbon and oxygen, conservation of energy implies that such would take at least its entire power output. Actually, the situation with inefficiencies would be even worse, preventing it from doing so to more than a small fraction of the total.

Technically, one could "solve" the problem by building multiple other emission-free power plants to provide enough power to convert the coal power plant's CO2 (though better through the Bosch reaction than trying to use lasers), such as a bunch of nuclear power plants. However, in that case, there would be no point in doing so compared to just shutting down the coal power plant and having the energy from the new emission-free power plants go into the grid, a much more efficient system.

As implied above, the main practical solution for reducing CO2 emissions is not converting CO2 back into C + O2 after combustion but rather preventing the emissions in the first place.

Also, here are a couple other measures proposed to help, though neither of these would be a complete solution:
  • Removing CO2 from the atmosphere with biomass, such as with forests that sometimes can be planted to do so for little cost, or a controversial algae iron fertilization idea.
  • Carbon sequesterization, avoiding the enormous energy requirements of trying to convert gigatons of CO2 back to C + O2 by instead letting it remain CO2 but keeping it out of the atmosphere, i.e. pumping CO2 emissions from a power plant underground.

Sneemaster wrote:
Of course this would require lots of energy, but better than flooding and killing off all lifeforms on earth.


Global warming is very undesirable, but it wouldn't kill all lifeforms or flood all land area. No proportion of ice sheets melting is enough to do that, rather being enough to eventually flood coastal areas.
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