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Global Warming
I've started to notice the global warming. I mean it's 14 december and still it's quite warm here in Sweden which is a rather cold country! At this time for some years ago it had already been snowing but this year it's unsure there will be snow at all. And there's been a really big flood here. And it was the same thing last year! Just not as much...
Have you noticed global warming anything?
Source:
Myself
www.aftonbladet.se , swedish newspaper
Sydsvenskan , swedish newspaper
Have you noticed global warming anything?
Source:
Myself
www.aftonbladet.se , swedish newspaper
Sydsvenskan , swedish newspaper
i havent noticed it but i live in a temperate climate.
luckily nuclear winter will cancel out global warming (futurama reference)
luckily nuclear winter will cancel out global warming (futurama reference)
Well, according to this handy graph I found (kudos to Google):
It appears that Sweden is indeed rising in temperature, but is still within the normal range. Even more severe rises in temperature have happened before (Most noticeably just before 1990, but also in the '70's).
It appears that Sweden is indeed rising in temperature, but is still within the normal range. Even more severe rises in temperature have happened before (Most noticeably just before 1990, but also in the '70's).
in my home town I can never see the beautiful thick snow and ice,the winter is too short now.
its not global warming but rather a natural cycle that earth is going through. So i guess you can say i haven't noticed it because there isn't anything such as global warming. Yes it is warmer then usualy. But you must think that its really something that is natural just like ice ages.
well, i definitely have noticed global warming cos developing are gonna be hit the hardest cos of global warming. researches have shown that america is the biggest contributor to global warming and they have constantly refused to join the Kyoto forum.
Yes the earth does indeed go through natural cycles. It's its way of renewing itself however the question is are we accelerating that process and if we are what does that mean in terms of the likely severity of such an acceleration. Will it mean a much harsher than normal cycle which could threaten our very existence. The evidence is that we are clearly heating up and that what we are doing is accelerating that process what remain unknown is exactly what the full impact will be.
Personally I would rather try and do something than do nothing and sit back and take the easy option of just blaming it on just another cycle.
Personally I would rather try and do something than do nothing and sit back and take the easy option of just blaming it on just another cycle.
I'm not naive enough to say that the world isn't warming - we've been experiencing above-average temperatures for a vast majority of the time, especially in the past decade.
...But people are making too big of a deal about it. There are so many factors contributing to global warming, including things like the NAO (North Atlantic Oscillation).
Because of Global Warming - the North Atlantic hurricane season was predicted to be as bad or worse than last year's (2005) hurricane season. This was not the case, we had an almost perfectly average year.
But it still wouldn't hurt to cut down pollution.
...But people are making too big of a deal about it. There are so many factors contributing to global warming, including things like the NAO (North Atlantic Oscillation).
Because of Global Warming - the North Atlantic hurricane season was predicted to be as bad or worse than last year's (2005) hurricane season. This was not the case, we had an almost perfectly average year.
But it still wouldn't hurt to cut down pollution.
| ocalhoun wrote: |
| Well, according to this handy graph I found (kudos to Google):
It appears that Sweden is indeed rising in temperature, but is still within the normal range. Even more severe rises in temperature have happened before (Most noticeably just before 1990, but also in the '70's). |
ocalhoun, what is ann, is it "Artificial Neural Network" ?
Yes, me too I think the weather it's a bit different from what I remember in the past. because I found myself saying "It was this hot/cold this time last year/s" more and more often these days.
The winter has benn milder and summer hotter. So yes i hope we get middelterrain climate here would be nice. This winter has been horrible now snow for Christmas
Here in southcentral lower Michigan, we've seen maybe 2 inches of snow so far this winter (and that was back in October). I don't blame it on global warming so much as the el niño we're experiencing. We've had a mild stretch for a few weeks, and it looks to go at least a week longer.
Basically, in the el niño pattern, the jet stream splits. One branch moves up to the north, which keeps the northern plains and Midwest warmer than average, and dryer than average. The other branch moves south and puts excessive moisture throughout the entire southern USA, making it stormier and cooler there.
Basically, in the el niño pattern, the jet stream splits. One branch moves up to the north, which keeps the northern plains and Midwest warmer than average, and dryer than average. The other branch moves south and puts excessive moisture throughout the entire southern USA, making it stormier and cooler there.
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ocalhoun, what is ann, is it "Artificial Neural Network" ? |
No idea, but you'll get much better results looking up GISS
yes certainly i have experienced global warming. i getting very cold in the winter time than usual and very very hot in the summer time than the usual. it rains like there is going to be flood around the the area .. every thing is changing lately
But I do NOT notice a gradually increasing temperature such that where I live averages 2 degrees warmer in the last 2 decades than in prior centuries.
There has been an "big" increase in CO2, this is true -- but whether this means higher average temperatures will take at least 100 years to start being able to talk about it in any scientific way.
The big effect is "climate change": which means hotter hots, colder colds, extremes -- and also colder hots (mild) and hotter colds (mild). We better get used to it.
Policy implications: a) higher gas taxes. If you're not serious about increasing gas taxes, you're not serious about "global warming".
b) Higher insurance costs for weather damage -- and Fed Emergency should not cover uninsured property damage (like Katrina).
c) Build more nuke power generation stations, closer to population centers,
d) more effort needs to go into Solar Powered Air Conditioning (summer peak A/C use is often the most expensive power).
There has been an "big" increase in CO2, this is true -- but whether this means higher average temperatures will take at least 100 years to start being able to talk about it in any scientific way.
The big effect is "climate change": which means hotter hots, colder colds, extremes -- and also colder hots (mild) and hotter colds (mild). We better get used to it.
Policy implications: a) higher gas taxes. If you're not serious about increasing gas taxes, you're not serious about "global warming".
b) Higher insurance costs for weather damage -- and Fed Emergency should not cover uninsured property damage (like Katrina).
c) Build more nuke power generation stations, closer to population centers,
d) more effort needs to go into Solar Powered Air Conditioning (summer peak A/C use is often the most expensive power).
I guess you could say we live Global Warming.
Ridiculously hot summers, followed by 9 months of winter.
Central UK area here.
Ridiculously hot summers, followed by 9 months of winter.
Central UK area here.
Usually during Nov. it snow where I live. Now, nearly Jan. it haven't even snow once. It rain a lot, but not snow, sometimes it even get so hot that I have to wear short sleves.
I rembember few years ago... it were snowing on 1st November. Now it's almost 1st Januar and there isn't any sign of snow? Temperatures are also much higher than few years ago at same time.
Of course there must be something about global warming and hard industry.
Of course there must be something about global warming and hard industry.
well around this time of year it suposed to snow or atleast be around 0 degrees celcius, but now? 10 degrees celcius, i mean how can their still be people denying global warming
Same here, it's way too warm for this time of the year but honestly I'm pretty happy with it. I don't like snow, I don't like the cold so as far as I'm concerned it can stay this way.
i havent' noticed about global warming
but i think it's a big deal for people in earth about global warming
but i think it's a big deal for people in earth about global warming
We're basically burning all the stuff the Earth worked so hard to store into rocks, shells, and stuff into the air. Yes, there is Global Warming. Yes, it is now. But no, it's not up to the point where we can't cause it to "turn around." What does this mean? Well we'll keep doing all the stuff we've been doing until we reach the point of no return, then umm... survival of the fittest will kick in I suppose... So where is the Fusion Reactor and Hydrogen Fuel Cell cars, those would be pretty nice about now.
Global warming sounds like a convenient way to run a presidential campaign. Politicians should stop using Mother Earth's natural processes as a way to win votes from misinformed citizens. It reminds me of the hellfire and damnation tactics used by the early religous zealots of early American history. "If you don't do this, this is going to happen." Remember, that most the awareness of "global warming" is coming from the same man who said HE invented the Internet. Scientists are split on this issue and no conclusive evidence has really been found to say that the Earth won't cool down as it has in its' natural processes for billions of years.
And even if it was true, I wouldn't mind bringing the beach closer to home.
And even if it was true, I wouldn't mind bringing the beach closer to home.
This is the last state in the South not to elect a GOP governor, but the Republican realignment in Dixie has shown on the presidential and congressional level.
cbf: Before you spam a post, it is usually a good idea to at least READ the post, get two or three keywords from it and THEN rant your mindless spew. Take your trash posts out of Frih.
Ya its been very mild this year in Canada, I definately noticed the global warming here.
| glenwood wrote: |
| Global warming sounds like a convenient way to run a presidential campaign. Politicians should stop using Mother Earth's natural processes as a way to win votes from misinformed citizens. It reminds me of the hellfire and damnation tactics used by the early religous zealots of early American history. "If you don't do this, this is going to happen." Remember, that most the awareness of "global warming" is coming from the same man who said HE invented the Internet. Scientists are split on this issue and no conclusive evidence has really been found to say that the Earth won't cool down as it has in its' natural processes for billions of years.
And even if it was true, I wouldn't mind bringing the beach closer to home. |
So... you wouldn't mind bringing the beach closer to home at the expense of other people's lives and homes, right? Well I'm glad that it's as simple as that. Most places below sealevel would be wiped out. Places like Vienna would disappear from the map (yes, I do know they're working on keeping the water out with an $8 billion project) and we'll get more freak storms... well not sure about that one, but some of the stuff on Discovery Channel has to be true.
| QrafTee wrote: | ||
So... you wouldn't mind bringing the beach closer to home at the expense of other people's lives and homes, right? Well I'm glad that it's as simple as that. Most places below sealevel would be wiped out. Places like Vienna would disappear from the map (yes, I do know they're working on keeping the water out with an $8 billion project) and we'll get more freak storms... well not sure about that one, but some of the stuff on Discovery Channel has to be true. |
Ever see the movie Waterworld?
Anyways. A common misconception is that Global 'Warming' is supposed to be literal. The global temperature is rising, yes -- BUT that doesn't mean it's getting warmer everwhere. I like to call it 'global weather screwing up[ness]'. I agree that there is a 'natural cycle' but you can't deny that there is something being caused by the millions of tons of crap we put into our air (methane from large cattle herds, carbon monoxide from cars, crap from factories, burning garbage, etc). The sea level has already risen, smog rates have risen, asthma rates have risen, they predict there will be a pass in the north cleared because of iceburgs/floes melting, blah blah blah. I personally remember a time when I had to wear a snow suit to go trick-or-treating!! Sorry for the rant but I don't know how anyone can deny that global warming exists!!!
I heard of a study that has just come out (and to my knowledge performed by a historically reliable source). I have not heard any environmentalist speak of it. But cows (yes, cows) produce 18% of all green house gases. That is more than all the motored transportation in this world put together. Any thoughts?
Without a doubt, I will not negate the fact that the Earth has heated up in the last 100 years. However, did you know in the colonial period of the Americas (1600's-1800's) the Earth suffered a "mini Ice Age" and experienced the coldest temperatures in centuries. One-thousand years ago the Earth was warmer than it is today, but people were not quite as anal, technological, and quick to point fingers. And everything turned out just fine with them. I think we need to slow down in giving ourselves so much credit.
And like poiko123 said regarding cows, they do in fact create 18% of methane (23 times more potent than heat-trapping gases). So maybe we need to deal with our animal friends before Mr. Ford and Toyota. And whatever happened to the most active hurricane season the world has ever seen this past year? Global warming seems to only be argued when convenient. And seriously people... the world is heating up by a fraction of a degree yearly. How can you correlate that with hotter summers, warmer winters, and other memories of cooler seasons? I can hardly tell the different of a 60 degree day from a 70 degree day, let alone a 74.5 degree/avg summer from a 74.6 degree/avg summer. This "global warming" is not that noticeable peope.
And like poiko123 said regarding cows, they do in fact create 18% of methane (23 times more potent than heat-trapping gases). So maybe we need to deal with our animal friends before Mr. Ford and Toyota. And whatever happened to the most active hurricane season the world has ever seen this past year? Global warming seems to only be argued when convenient. And seriously people... the world is heating up by a fraction of a degree yearly. How can you correlate that with hotter summers, warmer winters, and other memories of cooler seasons? I can hardly tell the different of a 60 degree day from a 70 degree day, let alone a 74.5 degree/avg summer from a 74.6 degree/avg summer. This "global warming" is not that noticeable peope.
There is clearly evidence for some global warming. Recorded past temperatures are illustrated in a graph here from NASA. Also, if one looks at the chart for the past 400,000 years here, one can see a strong relationship between CO2 and temperature (data from Nature article here). Temperature aren't quite yet higher than they were at some times in the past during the timeframe of the previous chart, but they are increasing enough for that point to soon be exceeded.
Sometimes there is confusion because a given local area can sometimes cool even when the overall trend is temperature rise, but the geographical chart from the IPCC here illustrates what goes on. There are a mixture of pollutants emitted, some even having cooling effects in themselves, but overall the net effect is warming, due to the major radiative forcing of carbon dioxide and methane as illustrated here.
While there is a tendency of most articles to mention only negative effects of CO2 and temperature rise as opposed to mentioning all effects, the evidence for global warming is still no less valid upon objective evaluation. (The more extreme claims about doomsday effects are much exaggerations, but the basic idea of global warming occurring is still right). Temperatures are rising, and reliance on CO2-emitting fossil fuels can not be continued indefinitely. One can note that CO2 levels in the atmosphere are easy to measure, and they have increased from 290 ppm in 1880 to 380 ppm today, as shown here, due to the net effect of emissions that have amounted to a cumulative total of hundreds of billions of tons of carbon burned.
Sometimes there is confusion because a given local area can sometimes cool even when the overall trend is temperature rise, but the geographical chart from the IPCC here illustrates what goes on. There are a mixture of pollutants emitted, some even having cooling effects in themselves, but overall the net effect is warming, due to the major radiative forcing of carbon dioxide and methane as illustrated here.
While there is a tendency of most articles to mention only negative effects of CO2 and temperature rise as opposed to mentioning all effects, the evidence for global warming is still no less valid upon objective evaluation. (The more extreme claims about doomsday effects are much exaggerations, but the basic idea of global warming occurring is still right). Temperatures are rising, and reliance on CO2-emitting fossil fuels can not be continued indefinitely. One can note that CO2 levels in the atmosphere are easy to measure, and they have increased from 290 ppm in 1880 to 380 ppm today, as shown here, due to the net effect of emissions that have amounted to a cumulative total of hundreds of billions of tons of carbon burned.
| glenwood wrote: |
| How can you correlate that with hotter summers, warmer winters, and other memories of cooler seasons? I can hardly tell the different of a 60 degree day from a 70 degree day, let alone a 74.5 degree/avg summer from a 74.6 degree/avg summer. This "global warming" is not that noticeable peope. |
I can explain why YOU personally can't tell the difference (in Canada it's fairly obvious
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Check out http://www.shiftingbaselines.org
It's a slow change for some people, so you don't notice as much. It's still a change though.
Where I reside, Utah, I definitely feel the opposite of global warming. And I'm sure everyone has heard enough about snow and Colorado. It all evens itself out in the end. Some people have warmer winters, others colder.
I'm an avid water enthusiast and love the ocean and agree with the ShiftingBaseline website, but I don't think that has much to do with global warming. That's just bad city planning in where all the junk from our drains end up. But of the things that annoy me (and there are not a lot) I get most annoyed when I see Hollywood celebrities take on the role of activist/scientist and use their prestige, media pull, and money to tell others their opinion. Who honestly cares what Barbara Streisand thinks about global warming? I would trust my middle-school biology teacher over her in a heartbeat, yet she is the one that everyone has to listen to. They are not specialists, they are not scientists, and a lot of the time they aren't even that good at acting. But American citizens need to stop trusting their favorite movie stars or else they might end up like Tom Cruise in his Scientology clan.
I'm an avid water enthusiast and love the ocean and agree with the ShiftingBaseline website, but I don't think that has much to do with global warming. That's just bad city planning in where all the junk from our drains end up. But of the things that annoy me (and there are not a lot) I get most annoyed when I see Hollywood celebrities take on the role of activist/scientist and use their prestige, media pull, and money to tell others their opinion. Who honestly cares what Barbara Streisand thinks about global warming? I would trust my middle-school biology teacher over her in a heartbeat, yet she is the one that everyone has to listen to. They are not specialists, they are not scientists, and a lot of the time they aren't even that good at acting. But American citizens need to stop trusting their favorite movie stars or else they might end up like Tom Cruise in his Scientology clan.
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I'm an avid water enthusiast and love the ocean and agree with the ShiftingBaseline website, but I don't think that has much to do with global warming. |
The point isn't wether the website is about global warming or not, it's wether people notice or not. The website talks about how people's views change. I even refferred to that sight in an essay about the negative effects of consumerism! It can apply to anything!
Last year, it was Half a meeter snow in 1. january...
And for 2 years ago, at 26. december It was 1 meeter snow at a ski center where it is almost only 5 centimeters snow now... What?
So its closed now, so I cant ride my snowboard I got for christmas.
And home it is only rain rain rain... Actually for 2 days ago the news said it should be snow today, but yesterday they said it gonna be rain instead.
I hope at least the snow coming in a week or something...
Do you think this is because of global warming? I think...
But its my fail to. Nobody makes more CO2 then then the norwegian peoples. Its just that its not so many of uss...
And for 2 years ago, at 26. december It was 1 meeter snow at a ski center where it is almost only 5 centimeters snow now... What?
So its closed now, so I cant ride my snowboard I got for christmas.
And home it is only rain rain rain... Actually for 2 days ago the news said it should be snow today, but yesterday they said it gonna be rain instead.
I hope at least the snow coming in a week or something...
Do you think this is because of global warming? I think...
But its my fail to. Nobody makes more CO2 then then the norwegian peoples. Its just that its not so many of uss...
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/002200701070313.htm
Like I said, where some people feel the heat, others suffer the cold. The Earth is always in check.
Like I said, where some people feel the heat, others suffer the cold. The Earth is always in check.
| glenwood wrote: |
| http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/002200701070313.htm
Like I said, where some people feel the heat, others suffer the cold. The Earth is always in check. |
Just because it's cold doesn't mean the global temperatures aren't rising.
From this site, http://www.undoit.org/what_is_gb_myth.cfm I have this proof;
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| MYTH: Global warming can't be happening, since winters have been getting colder.
FACT: Winters have been getting warmer. Measurements show that Earth's climate has warmed overall over the past century, in all seasons, and in most regions. The skeptics mislead the public when they bill the winter of 2003-2004 as record cold in the northeastern United States. That winter was only the 33rd coldest in the region since records began in 1896. Furthermore, a single spell of cold weather in one small region is no indication of cooling of the global climate, which refers to a long-term average over the entire planet. |
My explanation is that with "global warming" it isn't so much "warming" as "climate change". The fact that the average global temperature is rising, the whole world's climate is going upside down, cold places getting warm, warm places getting warm etc.
I found this article - http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0118/p02s01-usgn.html , that showed that temperatures were falling in the Antarctic but a head scientist said:
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| Yet Dr. Comiso cautions that his results were uncertain to within 0.6 degrees, a margin that swamps the result itself. That uncertainty, he says, may shrink with new data he's been analyzing. |
So you can't say that one place is getting cold therefore nowhere is getting warm:
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Dornan holds that any cooling down south comes as cold comfort in the face of climate-change predictions because Antarctica's temperature record "is already included in the global averages that show the climate is warming." |
The average global temperature is rising. Not necessarily every temperature all over the world.
I have never denied that temperatures are indeed rising, I am simply in favor of the idea that the Earth goes through these natural cycles and will correct the problem as it has done for billions of years. I am also trying to point out that we cannot feel the effects of global warming so drastically. This link should help you see that these "patterns," as odd as they might be, have happened before and will continue to happen.
http://wwwa.accuweather.com/pressroom.asp?pr=wx_258.htm
Goodbye warm weather. Hello "winter with a vengeance."
http://wwwa.accuweather.com/pressroom.asp?pr=wx_258.htm
Goodbye warm weather. Hello "winter with a vengeance."
It's like autumn now in the Netherlands. Very windy. No snow. It has almost blown me off my bike recently!
| glenwood wrote: |
| I have never denied that temperatures are indeed rising, I am simply in favor of the idea that the Earth goes through these natural cycles and will correct the problem as it has done for billions of years. I am also trying to point out that we cannot feel the effects of global warming so drastically. This link should help you see that these "patterns," as odd as they might be, have happened before and will continue to happen.
http://wwwa.accuweather.com/pressroom.asp?pr=wx_258.htm Goodbye warm weather. Hello "winter with a vengeance." |
I'm in favor of global warming and trying to show that it makes more sense in many ways. These "patterns" you speak of are on a very minute scale compared to thousand year cycles the earth goes through and compared to hundred year climate cycles. I'm trying to say that overall even with these warm then cold winters the overall temperatures are rising even with these cycles. Am I making any sense?
Now, we've had a huge storm and before Christmas we had a road that broke due to too much raining. It's been raining a lot and it was long since I saw a clear sky now...
Where is the all the hype about global warming now? It's funny that the media frenzy has suddenly died. I am not denying the very GRADUAL temperature increase the last few years, but I am trying to emphasize the media hypocrisy present and covering of stories when convenient. Again, I stand by my opinion that the Earth is exhibiting natural processes.
I live in Minnesota. We did not have ANY snow for Christmas. We usually have snow by October. Last year we had late snow, this year almost no snow at all. Still, there is almost no snow on the ground. We get a thin layer, then it melts.
Global Warming is obviously happening.
I recently viewed "An Inconvenient Truth". Please, everyone should rent this movie. All of the information in it, all of it, was thing that I did not know before viewing the movie. It's very shocking.
I have a grandmother in Poland. She says it's HOT outside. There is suppose to be snow there right now...
Everyone needs to take action.
How?
Easy.
Drive less, don't step on the gas as much.
If you can, get alternative energy sources.
Conserve water and electricity.
Bike to places that are close enough to bike to, don't driver there.
Come on, you can think of ideas too, I don't have to think for you.
Seriously, this is our only home we are talking about, and it's slowly warming up because of very high and rising CO2 levels. It's not good.
The more CO2 there is, the warmer it gets. The warmer it gets, the worse weather we will see and more ice will melt from the ice caps. Hurricane Katrina? Why was it such a terrible hurricane? Global Warming. I'm serious.
Earth is our home.
Global Warming is obviously happening.
I recently viewed "An Inconvenient Truth". Please, everyone should rent this movie. All of the information in it, all of it, was thing that I did not know before viewing the movie. It's very shocking.
I have a grandmother in Poland. She says it's HOT outside. There is suppose to be snow there right now...
Everyone needs to take action.
How?
Easy.
Drive less, don't step on the gas as much.
If you can, get alternative energy sources.
Conserve water and electricity.
Bike to places that are close enough to bike to, don't driver there.
Come on, you can think of ideas too, I don't have to think for you.
Seriously, this is our only home we are talking about, and it's slowly warming up because of very high and rising CO2 levels. It's not good.
The more CO2 there is, the warmer it gets. The warmer it gets, the worse weather we will see and more ice will melt from the ice caps. Hurricane Katrina? Why was it such a terrible hurricane? Global Warming. I'm serious.
Earth is our home.
| glenwood wrote: |
| Where is the all the hype about global warming now? It's funny that the media frenzy has suddenly died. I am not denying the very GRADUAL temperature increase the last few years, but I am trying to emphasize the media hypocrisy present and covering of stories when convenient. Again, I stand by my opinion that the Earth is exhibiting natural processes. |
It has just snowed here, but I doubt this snow won't last for very long. It's happened before where we had tons of snow for a few days then it all melted again. It's not "hype" it's climate change.
Well I definitely wouldn't try to discredit the fact that record lows are happening all over the nation. 46 cold related deaths in 7 states is something that definitely doesn't occur all the time.
Very well I concede. Changes should still, and can, be made.
I really just "conceded" to stop the pointless arguing and well obviously the "arguing" did stop but I really still believe that global warming is still happening, now more than ever. I just saw An Inconvenient Truth. These cycles you speak of, do happen, but never as they have now. They have proof. You must see this movie no matter what please everyone watch it!!!!!!!!!
Lynn -- did you know that global warming really IS happening ...
on MARS????
This is important because, if the sun is going thru a cycle of getting hotter, it will increase temperatures on Earth and on Mars.
It's also clear that there is more CO2 in the atmosphere. But I ask you, how much was there before, how much now?
I would be surprised if you have a good idea of actual amounts (eg 50% 10% 1%) as a portion.
The weather changes are important, whether the increasing temps are due to humans or not.
But global warming alarmists, like population bomb alaramists of 30 years ago, may well be wrong.
Any who use private jets or have big mansions, like Al Gore, are personal hypocrites.
Any who avoid calling for increasing gas taxes (I call for them, don't like them), are looking for a magic solution.
on MARS????
This is important because, if the sun is going thru a cycle of getting hotter, it will increase temperatures on Earth and on Mars.
It's also clear that there is more CO2 in the atmosphere. But I ask you, how much was there before, how much now?
I would be surprised if you have a good idea of actual amounts (eg 50% 10% 1%) as a portion.
The weather changes are important, whether the increasing temps are due to humans or not.
But global warming alarmists, like population bomb alaramists of 30 years ago, may well be wrong.
Any who use private jets or have big mansions, like Al Gore, are personal hypocrites.
Any who avoid calling for increasing gas taxes (I call for them, don't like them), are looking for a magic solution.
I do feel the change in the weather. My country isn't supposed to get warm until late February, but last December it already was.
I don't care whether you believe that it's because of global warming or not, or whether you believe Al Gore or not, I'm more concerned about how much information you've really encountered for you to base those kinds of conclusions. I was also a big Al Gore skeptic, but after watching the movie that included him (The Inconvenient Truth) my mind definitely changed, not because of Al Gore, but because of the facts that were given in the movie.
And whether or not global warming is real, I think that shouldn't prevent any of us from being careful of what we do to our environment. I agree that it is our ethical responsibility towards those who will still be alive long after we're all dead.
I don't care whether you believe that it's because of global warming or not, or whether you believe Al Gore or not, I'm more concerned about how much information you've really encountered for you to base those kinds of conclusions. I was also a big Al Gore skeptic, but after watching the movie that included him (The Inconvenient Truth) my mind definitely changed, not because of Al Gore, but because of the facts that were given in the movie.
And whether or not global warming is real, I think that shouldn't prevent any of us from being careful of what we do to our environment. I agree that it is our ethical responsibility towards those who will still be alive long after we're all dead.
| linangan wrote: |
| I do feel the change in the weather. My country isn't supposed to get warm until late February, but last December it already was.
I don't care whether you believe that it's because of global warming or not, or whether you believe Al Gore or not, I'm more concerned about how much information you've really encountered for you to base those kinds of conclusions. I was also a big Al Gore skeptic, but after watching the movie that included him (The Inconvenient Truth) my mind definitely changed, not because of Al Gore, but because of the facts that were given in the movie. And whether or not global warming is real, I think that shouldn't prevent any of us from being careful of what we do to our environment. I agree that it is our ethical responsibility towards those who will still be alive long after we're all dead. |
What does this have anything to do with Al Gore? I don't believe I even mentioned his name....
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