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fingo
There was a post on another of the forums about "the president of the internet" and it got me thinking. What do you guys think about the structure of the internet?

At first I thought of it as this anarchy where anyone can really do whatever they want. There are very few restrictions on what you can put on your website, and as long as you aren't committing a crime such as theft or child pornography, you can get away with almost anything. A libertarian paradise.

There are some governing bodies though. For instance, W3C creates the standard for HTML and CSS and many other web technologies. But since everyone is free to do whatever they want, few browsers conform to them. For instance, if any of you guys ever wrote CSS, you know the pain of getting it to look right in Internet Explorer.

Do you think that there are things in the internet that need to be rigorously standardized? The tiered-internet thing makes it clear that it is possible for the people owning the pipeline to band together to change the way the internet functions.

Is it possible for the internet to develop some sort of government? Get representation from all of the special interest groups that do business on the internet? Maybe there will be a bloggers party? Maybe a pornographers coalition that will fight obscenity laws?

Any thoughts?
reddishblue
No way, no one is taking away my freedom on the net, as long as the stuff you put on your website is not illegal it should be left as is. Also how do you know anything about who you are electing to this proposed inter-government, I mean I would like to at very least know the Name, Age (no ten year old is running MY internet) and location, even with a internet government, who here would obey them anyway, would you? Not me for sure, of course I don't break any laws, but I get on the internet with a sense of freedom, why must we be controlled even when we do nothing wrong?
There is no chance of this government coming to pass so we have nothing to worry about.

Reddish Blue
hack_man_
lol! The internet is already being monitored! I would not be surprised if there is some Etisalat weirdo looking at thumbnails of everyone in the UAE's internet!

Ooh! Aah! Every thumbnail would be showing this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/02/Etisalat_proxy.PNG
Jack_Hammer
fingo wrote:
There was a post on another of the forums about "the president of the internet" and it got me thinking. What do you guys think about the structure of the internet?

At first I thought of it as this anarchy where anyone can really do whatever they want. There are very few restrictions on what you can put on your website, and as long as you aren't committing a crime such as theft or child pornography, you can get away with almost anything. A libertarian paradise.

There are some governing bodies though. For instance, W3C creates the standard for HTML and CSS and many other web technologies. But since everyone is free to do whatever they want, few browsers conform to them. For instance, if any of you guys ever wrote CSS, you know the pain of getting it to look right in Internet Explorer.

Do you think that there are things in the internet that need to be rigorously standardized? The tiered-internet thing makes it clear that it is possible for the people owning the pipeline to band together to change the way the internet functions.

Is it possible for the internet to develop some sort of government? Get representation from all of the special interest groups that do business on the internet? Maybe there will be a bloggers party? Maybe a pornographers coalition that will fight obscenity laws?

Any thoughts?
can set up your own server and post child porn etc...

It is hard to regulate the internet as anyone can set up a website anywhere very easly.
Hunterseaker
I think it is good when there are just a few standards so you just have to learn one language, and CSS will work on every browser. tho ther should be no control on the information thats on the internet!! Everybody must have the freedom to say and read what they want, thats the primary right in our society.
arkebuzer
No one will ever be able to own or controll the entire internet.
In the end it comes down to what rights the ISPs have. In sweden the ISPīs have to give information to the government when they suspect a crime that can give more than 2 years in prison.
Iīm not saying itīs right break the copy laws (Iīm not saying itīs wrong.. I just try to make a point) but I dont think the government should be able to check what we are doing just because itīs on the internet.
It would (allmost) be like they would read our regular oldschool paper letters to eachother. Or stay outside the fed ex office just to open each package and look for illegal stuff... I think thatīs a step in the wrong direction.
ocalhoun
The only laws that apply to a given website are the laws of the country in which it is located.

So... if you were to set up a web server on a ship in international waters, you could put absolutely anything on it. (Supposing the ship's captain didn't have a problem with it, and that the ship never had to enter any port.)

I may be having a bit of an unpopular opinion here, but I figure the internet could use more control. Not on the content; I think that should be absolutely unregulated, but the standardization.
rhathar
While standardization can be a good thing, the problem with it is that by standardizing one thing people tend to exclude everything else.

But, yeah, I wouldn't mind Firefox and IE actually displaying my CSS the same way.

As for the rest of the internet, I'm against all kinds of forced censorship. People are smart enough to know what they do and don't want to see.
eggg
Anarchy in the I.N.!
tijn01
I think its more important for the user of the internet to protect themselves again what may or may not be on there, rather than the world having to protect the internet user.
Its easy to avoid stuff you don't want to know is there.
The internet should stay free so everyone can do what they want.
Vanilla Crazy
NO.

I don't WANT the internetz to be regulated. That would be horrible. It's bad enough with the regulations there are now.
arkebuzer
ocalhoun wrote:
The only laws that apply to a given website are the laws of the country in which it is located.

So... if you were to set up a web server on a ship in international waters, you could put absolutely anything on it. (Supposing the ship's captain didn't have a problem with it, and that the ship never had to enter any port.)

I may be having a bit of an unpopular opinion here, but I figure the internet could use more control. Not on the content; I think that should be absolutely unregulated, but the standardization.


To get everyone to follow a standardisation would never work, so it would not really solve the problem. Itīs an utopia (if you like the idea of internet controll).
But yeah, in a "perfect" world that would be a sollution.
jongoldsz
ocalhoun wrote:
The only laws that apply to a given website are the laws of the country in which it is located.

So... if you were to set up a web server on a ship in international waters, you could put absolutely anything on it. (Supposing the ship's captain didn't have a problem with it, and that the ship never had to enter any port.)

I may be having a bit of an unpopular opinion here, but I figure the internet could use more control. Not on the content; I think that should be absolutely unregulated, but the standardization.


Or you could get a nice little Island in international waters. I think that internet standardization is a good idea. But the web should be open for all, and ISPs should not have the right to control the websites you can go to. Only the government should be able to do that.
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