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bgillingham
Doesn't the study of Economics require a great understanding of how the civic infrastructure works at many different levels?

I ask the next question because I have no clue -- Do current Economics studies include a large part of imagination about future changes - or is most study only done with established models based on previous supply and demand models???

Looking at the trends that have occurred in the past 10 years -- given what has happened following the changes related to the Industrial revolution some hundred years earlier --- what can we predict about the changes to our lifestyles due to new services, etc.

While some believe that the near future will bring scientific breakthroughs that will cure most inherited diseases. Will this change our lifestyles -- hypothetically, would all anti-smoking laws be dropped if they cured lung cancer?

One of the most interesting future technology that I recently about involved robotic scientists that would not only theorize something, but it could carry out the experiment that would validate - adding to a growing database of whatever they'd be working on. Imagine a group of 1,000 robots working on genetic alterations to fruit flies - they could maybe create a flying spaghetti monster within a few million genetic tests.

What will become of the growing traffic jam problems in almost all major cities around the world? Will there be more or less of a need for cars in a future world? Will we even be the driver, or will we simply supply our intended destination?
bogger
bgillingham wrote:
Doesn't the study of Economics require a great understanding of how the civic infrastructure works at many different levels?


It depends on your level of expertise in the matter. To study macro economics, a general understanding of the political field is very helpful, but in microeconomics, it isn't the most necessary

bgillingham wrote:
I ask the next question because I have no clue -- Do current Economics studies include a large part of imagination about future changes - or is most study only done with established models based on previous supply and demand models???


It's mostly old models, some people innovated, like Milton Friedman (rip) and J.K. Galbraith (R.I.P). But they're all gone now. Nowadays, it's just taking their models and adapting them to the current situation

bgillingham wrote:
Looking at the trends that have occurred in the past 10 years -- given what has happened following the changes related to the Industrial revolution some hundred years earlier --- what can we predict about the changes to our lifestyles due to new services, etc.


I would expect that services will become more specialised, and that the small chains will die out, globalisation will mean that there will only be a few big guys in each market, which is beneficial for us, but bad for the producer. I also predict a boom in the Carbon Trading market, but I could be wrong

bgillingham wrote:
While some believe that the near future will bring scientific breakthroughs that will cure most inherited diseases. Will this change our lifestyles -- hypothetically, would all anti-smoking laws be dropped if they cured lung cancer?


In Ireland, the 1st country to bring in the Smoking ban. The law has made a better atmosphere, and has other advantages. I don't think they will stop if lung cancer is cured, because people can still sue you for getting cancer from 2nd hand smoke. They'll have to pay for the cure, don't forget

bgillingham wrote:
One of the most interesting future technology that I recently about involved robotic scientists that would not only theorize something, but it could carry out the experiment that would validate - adding to a growing database of whatever they'd be working on. Imagine a group of 1,000 robots working on genetic alterations to fruit flies - they could maybe create a flying spaghetti monster within a few million genetic tests.


3 laws of robotics say that this can't hurt us, but this isn't my fortι Can someone else answer this one please?

bgillingham wrote:
What will become of the growing traffic jam problems in almost all major cities around the world? Will there be more or less of a need for cars in a future world? Will we even be the driver, or will we simply supply our intended destination?


In Ireland, The government is making driving around such a hell that it's become a sport for the rich now. The future has nothing to do with this one. It's basically this: The more money you spend on public Transport, the more people that use it. If you did it tomorrow, same effect.

As for the robots/GPS driving us around. I'd call this the wrong forum, try the Science and Nature Forum
bgillingham
These are great answers bogger - I now wonder how good it really can be if economics use old models (assuming that these models can be flexible enough to accommodate new needs, &c). I guess that an analogy would be engineers using existing tests (models) before construction - when a more recent, perhaps much better model can be used.

Due to many of the emerging technologies, the world is increasingly dynamic - and some say "smaller every day". How this effects supply and demand - and how the people work and buy is changing, right?

I mention the robots that do experiments because they somehow relate to this changing world -- in a future sense. Maybe the robots of the future simply fit in somewhere to the existing models - even though we know that things are changing.

[quote ]The future has nothing to do with this one. It's basically this: The more money you spend on public Transport, the more people that use it. If you did it tomorrow, same effect. [/quote] I don't agree with your last assertion. I did graduate with a BS in Civil Engineering - and there was a good bit of talk about all aspects of civic transportation. What if there is a 5000% increase in telecommuting jobs as well as increases in services that make travel redundant (excepting for visits to Grandma's house -- something like Pizza delivery, but everything delivery... or what if we had something like Star Trek devices that created meals/beverages on a molecular level)?
bogger
Thank you, but my answers are only as good as your questions let them be

bgillingham wrote:
These are great answers bogger - I now wonder how good it really can be if economics use old models (assuming that these models can be flexible enough to accommodate new needs, &c). I guess that an analogy would be engineers using existing tests (models) before construction - when a more recent, perhaps much better model can be used.


Some people call economics a science. I would liken the old models to be like using pythagora's Theorem (admittedly, not very good). I do agree with your idea that we need to update though.

bgillingham wrote:
Due to many of the emerging technologies, the world is increasingly dynamic - and some say "smaller every day". How this effects supply and demand - and how the people work and buy is changing, right?


Yes, definately. Gone are the days of monopolistic suppliers of odd antiques. Nowadays, there is a lot of competition online. And also the quicker supply lines, thanks to DHL etc. mean tha it doesn't make much of a difference whether you order from Chile or China

bgillingham wrote:
I mention the robots that do experiments because they somehow relate to this changing world -- in a future sense. Maybe the robots of the future simply fit in somewhere to the existing models - even though we know that things are changing.


Mostly, in the past, machines haven't made new things possible, as much as made things we already do easier, (computers for maths) but they do open new things too (internet).

bgillingham wrote:
I don't agree with your last assertion. I did graduate with a BS in Civil Engineering - and there was a good bit of talk about all aspects of civic transportation. What if there is a 5000% increase in telecommuting jobs as well as increases in services that make travel redundant (excepting for visits to Grandma's house -- something like Pizza delivery, but everything delivery... or what if we had something like Star Trek devices that created meals/beverages on a molecular level)?


I'll have to accept you have a better knowledge in the matter then Razz. That's just how I see it in Ireland, where there is woeful underspending and big wastes of money. If everyone telecommuted, of course there would be less traffic, but there would also be less effeciency. And of course, not all jobs can be telecommuted really (Doctors, Surveyors)
indeedwrestling
There's a great forecasting fare site that recently appeared for Airplane Tickets. It's super!
bgillingham
indeedwrestling wrote:
There's a great forecasting fare site that recently appeared for Airplane Tickets. It's super!
That is not at all what I am talking about --- (realistically speaking) what kind of services will we be able to employ in the future?? For example: delivery of all of your groceries - and you can maintain your inventory or "par" list via an internet page. Another example can be extruded from recent news: teachers can work better (somehow -- like standardizing tests or making some process more efficient and free) through Google's free applications (like word processor, spreadsheet, presentations, etc.) which opens a possible "study service" of some kind.
100BillionDollars
bgillingham wrote:
That is not at all what I am talking about --- (realistically speaking) what kind of services will we be able to employ in the future?? For example: delivery of all of your groceries - and you can maintain your inventory or "par" list via an internet page. Another example can be extruded from recent news: teachers can work better (somehow -- like standardizing tests or making some process more efficient and free) through Google's free applications (like word processor, spreadsheet, presentations, etc.) which opens a possible "study service" of some kind.


This is a larger question than economic. It is sociatal responsibility to develop and employ a new standard.
This is exactly what I am working on but the first is to gain credalility with the masses so you can explain and build an infrastructure with customers money.
See you are able to get funding from a lot of big business for say the electric car or electro magnetic railway but when that gains momentum then in this example the car company buys the loan and or the loan company and forces the Innovator to abide by their rules and limits innevetibaly leaving this new world saving product with little to be desired.

You see people around the world have these Ideas you can see them on a site called TED the 100 laptop and a guy that claims we can live to 1000 but masses do not understand what is the importants and do not want any thing hard to learn.
And living to a 1000 brings ethical issues in where do we draw the line.
But befor the world start making strives for any importance we a leader that will not fall when big business slander their name threaten their family and friends one that will do the right thing and on that does not die.
Let me explain A man with a lot of passion form that and the masses beleive that this man is going to change life for good and he is killed the idea or belief of change goes with them and the process starts over but if you can create an idea that the success of the project is driven by you the massess then we will start to strive to change the worlds and its understanding of who we are at unimaginable speeds and accuracy.

You see you must first gain the masses. explain how they are really in control of todays rule maker. Big business know that we listen to what we see a keep spewing spin until we don't care any more to even be involved when this changes and the people start to decide what is true and that is a hard one

The fact is we all ready have amazing thing designed and developed but it will be two to ten year before we start to see them even hit the market because of patents. Also their are amazing thing and we just have not found the best use for it.

But as for leading I think I am the right man for the job for
I AM BATMAN!!!!!!
bgillingham
Take it from Batman!

The future social and economic models are going to have to also be very dynamic. As we progress, our uses for technology expand in a geometric not linear fashion.

Extended life expectancy will have major implications into how much we can actually continue to propagate our species. We will have to move to another planet soon - if we all live to 1,000. Recently, Steven Hawking just claimed that it a necessary for mankind to colonize other planets if we are to insure our existence.

Space travel is now becoming a commercial business. How accurate many of the forecasting in Arthur C. Clarke's "A Space Odyssey" really are indicates that he would be an excellent contributor to creating the social and economic models of the future.
100BillionDollars
bgillingham wrote:
I did graduate with a BS in Civil Engineering - and there was a good bit of talk about all aspects of civic transportation.


I Graduated High School with a 2.0 and failed college.


bogger wrote:
bgillingham wrote:
Due to many of the emerging technologies, the world is increasingly dynamic - and some say "smaller every day". How this effects supply and demand - and how the people work and buy is changing, right?


Yes, definately. Gone are the days of monopolistic suppliers of odd antiques. Nowadays, there is a lot of competition online. And also the quicker supply lines, thanks to DHL etc. mean tha it doesn't make much of a difference whether you order from Chile or China


I think that Big business:BB that you say thanks to is one of the downfall of monopolistic suppliers of odd antiques. As well as education but lets focus on BB because they can delivery their mass produced widget futher and faster. The small guy never had a chance. Because if you can offord to mass product than you can offer to get the needed knowledge to over power Small business :SB. Know what SB should have done is gained needed knowledge and shown why they where better, quality, personal what ever.
Now if the SB sucked and they were just filling a need well the deserved it for not offer something of great value that would stay true through competition.

bogger wrote:
bgillingham wrote:
I mention the robots that do experiments because they somehow relate to this changing world -- in a future sense. Maybe the robots of the future simply fit in somewhere to the existing models - even though we know that things are changing.


Mostly, in the past, machines haven't made new things possible, as much as made things we already do easier, (computers for maths) but they do open new things too (internet).


You both are. right Robotics should only be used when something is life threatening!!! We will always have enough people to get stuff done and I think that if we do designe robots to get rid of some existing position well just stay away because the genuis that is aloud to create it does not understand boundaru plus this will just create another need for fuel and replace ment and is only a temparary solution or better explained to maintain this robot it takes five people when it only took one human all this does is divert energy it may create jobs but all we did is take one salery and divided it.





bogger wrote:
bgillingham wrote:
I don't agree with your last assertion. What if there is a 5000% increase in telecommuting jobs as well as increases in services that make travel redundant (excepting for visits to Grandma's house -- something like Pizza delivery, but everything delivery... or what if we had something like Star Trek devices that created meals/beverages on a molecular level)?


I'll have to accept you have a better knowledge in the matter then :P. That's just how I see it in Ireland, where there is woeful underspending and big wastes of money. If everyone telecommuted, of course there would be less traffic, but there would also be less effeciency. And of course, not all jobs can be telecommuted really (Doctors, Surveyors)


You both are right but you need to stop arguing here agree that something needs to be done. Civic transportation does not need to be omitted it just needs to be organized through technology.
Now I propose we design an electrick magnetic form of transportation. All we would have to do is impute our destination and it would take us there all we would have to do is sit and work on our laptop that are connected to our free wifi that runs along the track.

Here is the cool thing this major the death rate for commuting would drop to almost nothing because we take human error out and they wiki said that japan and germany claim these railways can go up 1000 mph that is saint louis to houston in an hour the commute to work. Now the only Issues I see with this is the drop off point would cause pile ups and weekend every one is going to the beach. or snow boarding what have you a new system will have to be created to schedual vacations so that everyone can get oprtimized enjoy ment.

Plus delivering would be gone all. example say you ordered a tv off of ebay across the country then all you would have to do is send your pod/transportation to pick it up.
Lets say food you could be atwork and want some mexican dish or see food or have a culinary master cook your meal then all you need is a food warmer and a gyrating mechenism that moves with the traveling force. No more delivery charge now we truely have wharehouses stock piling product to sell.

Why this will not work!!!

Big Business, Consumers, Government. All because a lack of information.

BB will say that everyone is going to lose their jobs and the economy will crash.

Government will say we have invested all to much resources into our road and highways which america was built on. And we will have no way to regulate transportation. Imagine your small fishing town being flooded with million of people flooding your streets, no privacy and that is why you elected me to protect your rights and your privacy.

Consumers will believe what their are told.

More info the japan uses a floating method so at about 70 mph it lifts up and floats on a cload. to start if has rubber rollers uses magnet to move forward. at70 mph the vehicle is designed to lift lik a bird but the wieght keeps it from flying away. so there basically is no wear and tear so after purchase you can pass this down though the ages..

What industries are affected:
auto industries, parts service dealers advertising
fuel industry
travel, incountry airplaine taxis
delivery
police

This in some way will affect everyone and force them to do something of value because we are taking the middle man out. In reality people will have more opportunitues if we offer a plan of action or infrastructure for the adapting phase which would have to be implimented a few years in advance not to force change all at once but when they are ready

You will start to see some of the infrastructure coming this year but I have to do it like a magician. keep your focus on the left hand while the magic is happening in the right.
But I am only one man and now that you have read this we are two

who am I?

I AM BATMAN.
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