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http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2674267&page=1
| Quote: | BOSTON, Nov. 22, 2006 — Joe Mroszczyk, president of the College Republicans at Boston University, admits he set out to stir up a hornet's nest when he came up with the idea of offering a whites-only scholarship at the school. But he got a little more buzz than he bargained for.
"To tell you the truth, we didn't see this coming," Mroszczyk said. "The Drudge Report picked it up yesterday, and today I just finished a round of national interviews. It's kind of overwhelming."
All the media attention is focused on a $250 Caucasian Achievement and Recognition Scholarship offered by Mroszczyk and the BU chapter of the College Republicans. Applicants must have a cumulative grade point average of 3.2 or higher; they must write two essays; and, here's the kicker, they must be at least one-quarter Caucasian.
The application itself offers an explanation: "We believe that racial preferences in all their forms are perhaps the worst form of bigotry confronting America today."
According to Mroszczyk, his group is offering the scholarship to point out "how ridiculous it is to have any sort of racially based scholarship."
At BU, for example, students who are at least one-quarter Hispanic can apply for a National Hispanic Recognition Scholarship.
"There are plenty of poor, white, academically gifted students who need that money just as much," Mroszczyk said. |
Where's the outrage over blacks only scholarships? I guess that's not racist because it's blacks and we all know that only whites can be racist.....
The notion that one-way racism by blacks/latinos is acceptable because they have lower per capita incomes, as stated by a latino student in the article, is, itself, racist.
As always it's easier to blame "the man" than to take responsibility for one's one successes and failures.
I wonder what would happen if I were to apply for a scholarship through the United Negro College Fund...
Yanno, I've heard and thought alot about racism, reversed or otherwise. I think it's pretty damned fair for there to be a caucasian scholarship. No one had a problem with one for every other race. Why is it, that everyone's up in arms about this one?
It's stupid. Every other race has a scholarship, if we try to make one, we're racist. Funny how that works.
I vividly remember filling out a "College Preparation" inventory thing before one of our tests.
It said, and I quote "Fill in the bubble next to your ethnicity. You may be entitled to promotions or scholarships based on your ethnicity."
I think the scholarships should be suited for people with specific income ranges, academic marks, etc., but not your ethnicity. The color of your skin has nothing to do with your potential.
| a.Bird wrote: | | I think the scholarships should be suited for people with specific income ranges, academic marks, etc., but not your ethnicity. The color of your skin has nothing to do with your potential. |
The person providing the scholarship can offer the scholarship to whomever they damn well please. It's their money.
If i wanted to offer a scholarship at a Canadian institution for people who grew up in the Caribbean, try and stop me. If i wanted to offer a scholarship to people with green eyes, give me one good reason why that's wrong. If i wanted to offer a scholarship to guys with small penises ("The under-endowment endowment"), you can't tell me that i can't use my money that way. (i can't imagine who would sign up for that last one, though. >.<)
The only valid question is whether or not an academic institution should include such a scholarship in their official list of scholarships.
To that i say, why not?
Even if the scholarship is offered for stupid reasons, it's still money for students - which means that more students who otherwise might not have been able to study can now study. Why should the school fight that?
The most that i think an institution should do, perhaps, is make two separate lists. One for true academic scholarships - those based on marks alone and not biased by race, religion, gender, age or anything else (except maybe by program or faculty) - and one for "other" scholarships. That would allow for the maximum number of students to benefit from scholarship money, while at the same time preserving the sanctity of those scholarships that are really academic awards. Of course, that's already done, at least somewhat.
| S3nd K3ys wrote: | http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2674267&page=1
| Quote: | BOSTON, Nov. 22, 2006 — Joe Mroszczyk, president of the College Republicans at Boston University, admits he set out to stir up a hornet's nest when he came up with the idea of offering a whites-only scholarship at the school. But he got a little more buzz than he bargained for.
"To tell you the truth, we didn't see this coming," Mroszczyk said. "The Drudge Report picked it up yesterday, and today I just finished a round of national interviews. It's kind of overwhelming."
All the media attention is focused on a $250 Caucasian Achievement and Recognition Scholarship offered by Mroszczyk and the BU chapter of the College Republicans. Applicants must have a cumulative grade point average of 3.2 or higher; they must write two essays; and, here's the kicker, they must be at least one-quarter Caucasian.
The application itself offers an explanation: "We believe that racial preferences in all their forms are perhaps the worst form of bigotry confronting America today."
According to Mroszczyk, his group is offering the scholarship to point out "how ridiculous it is to have any sort of racially based scholarship."
At BU, for example, students who are at least one-quarter Hispanic can apply for a National Hispanic Recognition Scholarship.
"There are plenty of poor, white, academically gifted students who need that money just as much," Mroszczyk said. |
Where's the outrage over blacks only scholarships? I guess that's not racist because it's blacks and we all know that only whites can be racist.....
The notion that one-way racism by blacks/latinos is acceptable because they have lower per capita incomes, as stated by a latino student in the article, is, itself, racist.
As always it's easier to blame "the man" than to take responsibility for one's one successes and failures.
I wonder what would happen if I were to apply for a scholarship through the United Negro College Fund... |
It's really a shame, what we've become. We divide ourselves by color, religion, nation, wealth, height, weight, influence, etc. and then expect to be able to live 'together'. One understands the professors 'point'. Does it help? No. Just another division.
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As much as I agree that a person should be judged only on who they are as a person, and not by any physical charateristic, I also realize that there is such a thing as race. You can't completely deny the fact that someone is of a certain race, because I think its good for us to realized our differences, if it weren't for that we wouldn't have things like Cinco de Mayo, fireworks, vodka, or other things that definately came from other cultures. The problem isn't that we recognize these differences, its when we start to judge and offer preferiental treatment that the problem starts, so in my opinion, yes the scholarship is wrong, just like any race based scholarship.
Just because a certain race was abused some hundread years ago doesn't mean that they have to get all the privilages now. Even though some where the abusers years ago, doesn't mean that they should be abused by the system. As said above, scholarships and all the applicable (finance) privilages should be given based on your income, not on your skin color or what was your race. There are poor whites, poor brahmins, and all other poor high (caste, race) people. Who don't get a penny cause of the class (race, caste) they belong. That is bulls*** it needs to be changed.
I understand your point here, and when I think about it , it seems as if this country is still trying to compensate for all of the White Racism that existed in the past, etc. So I guess the question is, when does it need to stop trying to compensate for it? When is enough, enough? Is there even such a thing as enough?
I don't think anything is wrong with "Black" scholarships because, well, there are always schoalrships designated for people who fit a certain criteria (blacks, latinos, duct tape fanatics, child of a 911 victim, etc)
But hey, I live in a highly latino-populated area and here, racism is usually TOWARDS white people, not from them
I am constantly frustrated by the double standards inherent in so much of affirmative action, politically correct discussions of race, etc. It seems to me that we will never really be a colorblind society until we don't care about a person's skin tone or heritage--No racial categories on questionaires, no weight placed on race in college entrance exams, etc. I agree that economic status and prior achievement (i.e. merit) are much better ways to distinguish people for scholarships and other forms of assistance.
Well there's always been this kind of generic issue that only whites can be racist. I'm not sure how it happened, but it's always been the case.
A lot of you have made some very valid points here. Race is only skin deep. It doesn't tell you anything about what a person has gone through, yet we use it as a way to judge another person. And while we may say that we're not in any way prejudice, I honestly believe that each person is up to a point. Some, obviously, more than others. I'll be the first to admit that I have some. I don't think I could date a person of a different race, but that is only pertaining to my life no one else's. As a matter of fact, my brother married a black girl and I now have some very beautiful nieces and nephews because of their marrige. All I'm saying is that I don't think I could date a person of another race. Be friends with them, you bet, I actually have friends of many different races and nationalities. I have no problem with that. Do I think I'm better because I'm white? NO!!! I know some very intelligent people of various races. I don't let color effect who I want to be friends with, only on who I might considering dating, if I wasn't married. lol
Do I think a person should be rewarded because of their race? No. But it's a common practice. I don't think it will change anytime soon. Unfortuneately!!!!!!!!!
The whole thing comes back to any subsidies to any "underdeveloped" ethnic group / country / region / whatsoever.
Do we think that giving money to developing countries is alright? There are good reasons for it, as well as against it. Past has shown that "whites" have squeezed out some of these countries back in the last centuries as well as up until today, so some payback in form of subsidies might be considered fair, but then, this always tends to go to the wrong people buying guns & tanks from it. So what to do?
I think the whole scholarship debate above has a similar background. Some ethnic groups where squeezed out in the past (slave labor etc) and did not get equal opportunities like the well established groups. So part of it may be compensation for "past sins", part may be just getting rid of the bad concience.
Is it good to have a "white only" scholarship? Well, if you aim for the "underdeveloped" white groups (i.e. childen of so called "white trash ppl") it just follows the same scheme. If it is just making fun of all the "racial" scholarships, it is just a provocation (likely).
Then, we have to even take a step further. Do we want to have some redistribution mechanism in our economies that helps the less able to survive or do we believe in "survival of the fittest" and let hungry people die in the streets...
You do raise a valid point, there.
But still, I think there should be absolutely no advantages one race has over another. There should be two groups:
Those who need help and those who don't.
If you look back in history, yes, they were made to be slaves. But look at what Martin Luther King Jr. said:
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Stance on compensation
On several occasions King expressed a view that black Americans, as well as other disadvantaged Americans, should be compensated for historical wrongs. Speaking to Alex Haley in 1965, he said that granting black Americans only equality could not realistically close the economic gap between them and whites. King said that he did not seek a full restitution of wages lost to slavery, which he believed impossible, but proposed a government program to "equip the Negro to compete on a just and equal basis" as well as other disadvantaged people. His 1964 book Why We Can't Wait elaborated this idea further, presenting it as an application of the common law regarding settlement of unpaid labor.
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He says "equip the Negro to compete on a just and equal basis as well as other disadvantaged people"
He meant for not only Negro people that are disadvantaged get help, but also anybody that is disadvantaged.
I really hate that kind of stuff- the double standard deal. I'm not saying this because I'm white, and I'm offended- I'm not white, but I am offended. They do that kind of stuff for minorities because of the economic gaps that lie between the two 'races.' Like it or not, people feel that blacks and hispanics and etc. are disadvantaged due to the higher rights that white people received before the 60's. That gap still exists today, and they try to stop it by offering (insert ethnicity here)-only scholarships. I disagree with this, in today's world, but I can see where they're coming from. However, it's wrong that people should be angered by a white-only scholarship, because as said, there are a lot of whites out there that are just as economically disadvantaged as the next guy, and they need help too.
| swapnalokam wrote: | | There are poor whites, poor brahmins, and all other poor high (caste, race) people. Who don't get a penny cause of the class (race, caste) they belong. That is bulls*** it needs to be changed. |
Then change it! Quit your whining and set up a scholarship, if you really feel one is lacking.
| Drawingguy wrote: | | They do that kind of stuff for minorities because of the economic gaps that lie between the two 'races.' Like it or not, people feel that blacks and hispanics and etc. are disadvantaged due to the higher rights that white people received before the 60's. That gap still exists today, and they try to stop it by offering (insert ethnicity here)-only scholarships. I disagree with this, in today's world, but I can see where they're coming from. |
Who is "they"?
From where i'm sitting it sure looks to me like most of you are getting offended and upset over something you don't really understand at all.
i don't think most of you realize that like that scholarship mentioned above, most scholarships are paid for by private citizens and other non-government groups. You know why there are more scholarships being offered to <insert ethnic group here>? BECAUSE RICH <INSERT ETHNIC GROUP HERE> ARE OFFERING MORE SCHOLARSHIPS TO PEOPLE LIKE THEMSELVES!!!
You wanna know why there's a blacks-only scholarship, but not a whites-only one? BECAUSE THE NAACP HAS OFFERED A SCHOLARSHIP AND THE ARYAN NATIONS HAS NOT!!! That's it! That's all there is to it. End of story. You want a whites-only scholarship? Then contact the Council of Conservative Citizens and ask them to sponsor one! Look - here's their website. Their number's at the top. Phone them up and quit the whining about the lack of racial equality in scholarships.
None of this has anything to do with government or school policy, or even the attitude of society at large. So who are you people complaining about?
Surely you don't mean to tell me that you think you have the right to dictate to people who are donating money to students how they should distribute their money. If i had a million bucks to hand out to students i just DARE you to try and tell me how i should decide who gets it. My money, my choice.
If the NAACP wants to give money to blacks only, what gives you the right to tell them they're wrong?
If the CofCC wants to give money to whites only, what gives you the right to tell them they can't?
Why do people never seem to understand that race is an arbitrary cultural construction? Of course they should be worried about the socio-economic positions of minority groups, but you can't group all minorities into one social class that is in apparent need of scholarship funding. I think it would be much more productive if they just granted more scholarships to those of lower socio-economic and disregard "race" as the determining factor.
Racism is horrible, but what about racial sensitivity to the extreme? Sometimes it's like we're so afraid of offending and being politically incorrect that we in fact become racist.
The problem for me is the generalization that the scholarships made. Because I am white, I am barred from multiple scholarships - and a minority is more likely to get a scholarship over me, simply because they are the minority.
Although, affirmitive action is now banned in Michigan - we'll see how that goes over.
I don't think its possible to ban affirmative action. Affirmative action does not have to do with quotas or hiring under qualified people. It is the simple fact that you can not exclude some one based on race, religion, ethnicity, ect. If a minority is under qualified and a more qualified person has applied, then the minority does not have to be hired, but race should have no part in deciding what happens. I believe this is how it should be with most things. I agree that private citizens can do what ever they please with thier money, but it still doesn't make it right or just. But since it is thier money, I don't see that fact changing any time soon.
If there are different scholarships for only blacks and different scholarships for only whites, where is the racism? The whole thing is bogus. lol
| Rad Ultima 2 wrote: | | If there are different scholarships for only blacks and different scholarships for only whites, where is the racism? The whole thing is bogus. lol |
You missed it. There ARE NO SCHOLARSHIPS for whites. A guy tried to make one and got called a racist.
It is pretty funny that people think that only one group of people can be racist because that is completely false. I mean seriously every ethnic group can be racist against a different one. Whites in the U.S. have that whole affirmative action took my job thing going. Blacks have the we were slaves for 200 years, hispanics well if they have the we are the cheap labor thing. Each and every single race has something that they can and probably will complain about. Since almost everyone is different there are going to be some people who are going to hate others just because they feel like it.(I am not racist so don't take anything I said personally please)
This is a pointless thread -.- I guess MLK died for nothing 
| Hallowed_Spirit wrote: | | This is a pointless thread -.- I guess MLK died for nothing |
That was a completely pointless post. Actually, this is a pointless post. Suppose I had better post something.
| Quote: | | It is pretty funny that people think that only one group of people can be racist because that is completely false. I mean seriously every ethnic group can be racist against a different one. |
But the thing that we're talking about, if a white person does ANYTHING close to racism they are called racist, as people have developed stereotypes that white people are racist.
If a person of another race calls a white person anything, nobody cares. If a person of another race calls another person of the same race something that's racist, then nobody cares.
The point is that not only white people are racist, but the point is that people only care if white people are racist.
Is there a scientific way of establishing what race you are? Maybe we can tackle the race question this way.
If you are for example 34% black then you can get 34% of the scholarship.
We should just gouge peoples eyes out then no one could judged based on race.
I've never actually heard of a black person being charged for a hate crime...
But anyways I think we are all equal...I don't get how people can be so racist...I mean seriously...slavery has passed...anyone that has been a slave (as I know of) is dead....so why dwell on the fact that white people had slaves? I mean white people were also slaves around the time of the revolutionary war (http://www.revisionisthistory.org/forgottenslaves.html) so why are black people (and every other group of people) still racist? And having the Negro College Fund is racist and also having all girl schools is sexist. Technically having 1 line for the boys and 1 line for the girls in school is segregation....so why dwell on the facts that just whites are racist when blacks, hispanics, whites, men, women, and every other group of people are racist/sexist and/or have thoughts about being divided. Why dwell on the the bad stuff like racism and sexism when we could at least be tolerant of each other or perhaps make peace with one another.
It is obvious that the "whites-only" scholarship in the story was offered only as a comment on the giving of race-based scholarships. I applaud them for doing it.
While scholarships for "whites" make no real sense, scholarships for more narrowly-targeted groups could encourage cultural awareness and be a good thing. Probably no one would object to a scholarship for those with Italian ancestors or Irish ancestors. On the other hand, a scholarship for those with English ancestors might be viewed as a surrogate for a whites-only scholarship.
I hate that whole mentality that only whites can be racist. I go to a school with about 5% white people. Most of the school is hispanic and black. They are so racist to us white people but the second we say anythign back all of a sudden we're called "racists." It really annoys me. As far as the scholarships for "minorities," I've still applied for some. hey, I'm white but I'm a minority at my school. I'm also at the top of my class. Most of my school is a bunch of drop-out prone people who don't try, and don't even deserve the scholarship. And whatever happened to "racial equality?" If I apply for a hispanic or black scholarship, they can't really do much because unless I have to send in a picture or some sort of proof, how will they know what my race is? Are they going to come to my door, knock on it, and demand to see it? I have the grades so if they want to deny me the scholarship, at least I know they had to work at it.
I believe that long ago we reached the point of circumstantial equality. Yes, there are still racist people. But they exist over all races, and it is unfair of us now to criticize one races beliefs over another. If the african-american people can have a scholarship (and they do, and have, for years) why can't the caucassians? PLUS! The scholarship itself says that you only need be 1/4 Caucassian, so you could have a lot of other ethnic backgrounds and still be applicable for the scholarship.
Quit complaining... fair is fair.
it's easy to not see things from a minority's perspective until one becomes a minority!
race-related minority is complex because there's so much baggage attached to it. we're entering a new age, where other prejudices are taking shape (prejudice against sexual orientation, or prejudice to genetically 'inferior' people. Imagine what it will be like when a potential employer is able to retrieve DNA records of you and determines that you are more likely to go to the hospital than others, and refuses to hire you for that because you are a liability to their insurance!).
so the minority always needs to be protected. there should be a watchdog group that sees that minority things (such as scholarships) are not hateful in nature.
<joke>
hey what do you call a black man who controls a plane?
a pilot! what did you think i would say? you racist!
</joke>
I hate racism... I've never seen "race" as important for anything, yet it's constantly being shoved in my face as the reason that I am a bad person. I'm white and my ancestors oppressed everyone else in the world, apparently, and somehow these crimes are passed down to me. Would we persecute the descendants of a mass murderer because their ancestor committed a horrible crime? No, because that doesn't make sense. So how does making me suffer for crimes committed hundreds of years before I was born make sense?
I have no problem with "ethnic" or "racial" scholarships, except that it excludes me from more than half of the scholarships offered in my area. I'm excluded either because my family makes too much money for me to get more than token financial aid, because none of the agencies calculating financial need take same-age siblings (I have a twin sister) into account and they only account for the parents having to pay for one child, or because I'm not black or of Native American descent. I got straight A's in high school and got a single $100 scholarship out of dozens I applied for. Whereas I can only apply for maybe 50% of the scholarships, a Native American student or African American student that is better off financially than I am and that gets the same grades as me is eligible for far more financial aid than I am, solely on the basis of the color of my skin. Sometimes I really, really wish I hadn't been born with the idiotic socially constructed "stigma" of being white.
Something is very messed up here. I think the whole educational system needs to be reworked.
For what it's worth, I'm starting to note an interesting pattern in the black community: Some seem so interested in showing that racism still exists, that any sign of disagreement between black and white, or even impoliteness, is seen as racism. I know of a black woman that was looking for a specific kind of tea, and was doing a thorough search for it. When a white grocery clerk came to help, she claimed racism.
[Note: I'm not saying that racism doesn't exist; just that it seems far over reported...It's just that it seems like it's one the wane, and some people have a problem with that...]
I think that black people are already able to compete on an equal footing; after all, poor people of any other color can do well if they concentrate on what they do, and so there has been an increase in Latina, Asian, and Native American politicians, but fewer black politicians, as well as management in other groups. It's just that they are more stuck on the past, and looking for excuses. I hate saying that I think Cosby was right...
HM
| missdixy wrote: | | But hey, I live in a highly latino-populated area and here, racism is usually TOWARDS white people, not from them |
Yeah where I live it's about 40% Caucasian and 60% Hispanic. Racism here is generally towards whites as well.
Here's my deal. I'm enough Native American that I can get full rides from either my tribe or the school I want to go to. But I can't stand the amount of racist scholarships, and I don't think that people should be able to get money based on ethnicity. I agree, scholarships should be based upon financial need, academics, and such, not on ethnicity. That's why I didn't take the money from my tribe and only applied for scholarships that didn't have ethnicity involved, or if they did, I applied as Caucasian. I wound up getting a full ride to Washington State University. I graduated high school with a 3.9 cumulative GPA, and a 1450/1600 on my SAT. There are some scholarships for basing it off of that. What was really interesting, I wrote my scholarship letter for the US Army (which is where I got my full ride) about the racism and problems in college acceptances, and how I could lead as an indifferent officer. I got a phone call a couple days after the officers read it, they told me they recognized immense potential and that I didn't need to finish going through the steps to get accepted and they would like to offer me a full ride. I also got a phone call back from the US Air Force at University of Washington, who also wanted to offer money, but they would pay for all except room and board.
I mean honestly, I have a lot harder time finding a job than I do getting scholarships. Especially in a town with the ratio that mine has. I don't speak a whole lot of Spanish, and that's what everyone requires here in my town. It drove me crazy when I was younger. Since starting my own business, however, I haven't had to worry about finding a job around here.
I still don't understand why people are racist to it makes absoulutely no sense whatsoever. Once you break it down we are all simply cells all the same none are different in any race.
Actually, there are some pretty interesting differences...Blacks and sickle-cell anemia, for example...
Although I appreciate the issues, it is interesting to note that the definition of racism is becoming grayer and grayer, at least for some groups. It's interesting that just as various forms of racism (at least in most of the US) were starting to fade away, the NAACP and associated groups always seem to get it back up...I'm not trying to be a jerk; I'm just starting to seriously wonder if some groups have done their job, and are outdated...
HM
I don't understand, there are scholarships for all types of people. Whether it be white, black, asian, it doesn't matter. People deserve to be able to go to college and many can't afford it. Scholarships should be given to those who deserve it regaurdless of race or any other physical attribute.
Actually, any time that a scholarship pops up that's specifically for white people, it gets slammed for being racist...
HM
Right racisium goes two ways. Any person from any ethnic group can be racist to another, blaming it soley on white people and outrage and should be stopted.
An example of this is last year whilst in an R.E lesson two friends (on white on black) where yes telling racist joke to the other, but in a half harted kind of way, the teacher heard this, baring in mind both people's jokes and punished only the white person with several after school detensions but did nothing to the black person, and outrage!
Two white guys are riding in a car. Who's driving?
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The cop.
LOL as much as I hate the BU Republicans (I go to BU) this was one of the best arguments I've seen. It really sucks for us whites to have to work harder to achieve the same just because they are the majority.
I just wish people would recognize that it was the middle eastern countries that first enslaved many black. May the Offspring song rule... "you gotta keep 'em separated"
On a serious note, it's an innate part of human nature to fear or even loathe that which is not of it's own. Take homosexuality as well as different races and languages. Anything different causes some emotion in people. Some are able to control this and act like a decent human. Others are simply horse's rear ends and allow this to cloud reason.
That said, any program or initiative done by a multicultural organization (read world governments) that gives an advantage to anyone on their ethnicity is absurd. In fact, ever black person out there should be OUTRAGED that the white man is still keeping us down by saying we need a helping hand.
Screw your helping hand and special treatment!
just my two cents.
(P.S. - as for private money... If I so choose to only give to people who were born in Finland to one white and one asian parent in the month of october and was born only between the hours of 1pm and 4pm. It's my money. I can be as racist as I like with my OWN money.... ) (/agree Indi)
People can argue all they want about racism and they're never going to agree. But I would like to see the day they grant a whites-only scholarship. (actually I'm pretty sure this has already happened.)
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my good friend professor Maddox has something to say on this note: http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=embrace (contains profanity)
TheSublime: They keep trying, but every time a whites-only scholarship shows up, it's slammed as racist...
| Deuc wrote: | | That said, any program or initiative done by a multicultural organization (read world governments) that gives an advantage to anyone on their ethnicity is absurd. In fact, ever black person out there should be OUTRAGED that the white man is still keeping us down by saying we need a helping hand. |
Actually, the opposite is true: A number of black groups are annoyed that not only is affirmative action biting the big one, but that there aren't enough handouts out there...
| Quote: | | (P.S. - as for private money... If I so choose to only give to people who were born in Finland to one white and one asian parent in the month of october and was born only between the hours of 1pm and 4pm. It's my money. I can be as racist as I like with my OWN money.... ) (/agree Indi) |
You'd think so, wouldn't you...?
HM
| Soulfire wrote: | It's stupid. Every other race has a scholarship, if we try to make one, we're racist. Funny how that works.
I vividly remember filling out a "College Preparation" inventory thing before one of our tests.
It said, and I quote "Fill in the bubble next to your ethnicity. You may be entitled to promotions or scholarships based on your ethnicity." |
"The land of the free" is one of the most racist countries in the world! US "affirmative action" policy is plain stupid!
Dude: Keep up with current events! Affirmative Action is biting the big one! Heck, in "Liberal" California, we just got rid of the advantages minorities had on bidding on contracts (we'd already eliminated AA in schools). It's been generally acknowledged that AA was just a stopgap, but various African-American groups have really gotten used to AA helping them out...
The problem I've been noting is that a lot of blacks have expanded the definition of racism to include anything between whites and blacks. A black woman looking for a specific tea was tearing through the tea section when a white grocery clerk stepped up to help her; the woman told the clerk that she didn't need any help and walked away. Kids moving out of the way so a black adult male could pass is racist.
And then there is "institutionalized racism" (the belief that corporations are inherently racist); after all, only 9% of managers are black, compared to 12% of the population. Most companies prefer that their employees have some education; as a number of African-American groups have been pointing out that as inner city kids can't get a good education, why should they bother? However, that attitude bites them on the butt when they apply to places that require a degree. Somehow those same groups believe that they should be getting the same size of the pie without doing the same amount of work, based solely on their skin color...
Augh. I'm starting to think that the pendulum is swinging the other way; African-Americans are pushing so hard for an equality that's already been won on a lot of levels that they're making people that wouldn't be against them, well, against them....
HM
| S3nd K3ys wrote: | http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2674267&page=1
| Quote: | BOSTON, Nov. 22, 2006 — Joe Mroszczyk, president of the College Republicans at Boston University, admits he set out to stir up a hornet's nest when he came up with the idea of offering a whites-only scholarship at the school. But he got a little more buzz than he bargained for.
"To tell you the truth, we didn't see this coming," Mroszczyk said. "The Drudge Report picked it up yesterday, and today I just finished a round of national interviews. It's kind of overwhelming."
All the media attention is focused on a $250 Caucasian Achievement and Recognition Scholarship offered by Mroszczyk and the BU chapter of the College Republicans. Applicants must have a cumulative grade point average of 3.2 or higher; they must write two essays; and, here's the kicker, they must be at least one-quarter Caucasian.
The application itself offers an explanation: "We believe that racial preferences in all their forms are perhaps the worst form of bigotry confronting America today."
According to Mroszczyk, his group is offering the scholarship to point out "how ridiculous it is to have any sort of racially based scholarship."
At BU, for example, students who are at least one-quarter Hispanic can apply for a National Hispanic Recognition Scholarship.
"There are plenty of poor, white, academically gifted students who need that money just as much," Mroszczyk said. |
Where's the outrage over blacks only scholarships? I guess that's not racist because it's blacks and we all know that only whites can be racist.....
The notion that one-way racism by blacks/latinos is acceptable because they have lower per capita incomes, as stated by a latino student in the article, is, itself, racist.
As always it's easier to blame "the man" than to take responsibility for one's one successes and failures.
I wonder what would happen if I were to apply for a scholarship through the United Negro College Fund... |
I'm with you on this one.
All this anti-white discrimination must go away.
I don't even understand why whites are hated so much. We were the one's that ended slavery. We gave them rights in our countries. And we have continued to pay ever since.
I say love us or leave us to our own.
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I don't even understand why whites are hated so much. We were the one's that ended slavery. We gave them rights in our countries. And we have continued to pay ever since.
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Actually, slavery would have died on its own; with the advent of the Industrial Revolution, slavery was just not economically feasible. You either recognize the group or face severe problems; combined with other groups that were looking to abolish slavery, it was just easier and more common sense to recognize the new group.
The problem is that racism really was institutionalized until recently; that is, it was acceptable to be racist. Now, it's not and in fact we know that diversity and allowing different perspectives allows a business to grow rather than stagnate.
The problem is that African-Americans tend to be stuck in the past, and not willing to admit that attitudes have changed. Worse, a number are looking for problems; they still want to fight the fight for civil rights. There is some truth to that, but it's at the point where the level of aggressiveness that it's being defended with creates more problems than it solves...
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One of the kids in my law class said (the other day) that blacks were the superior race. I don't understand why someone would make people hate them because of their skin colour by making a stupid comment like that. It just gets everyone feeling indignant.
There was a black person who came to my school who I have a lot of respect for now. He was a spoken word artist who told all of the black people out in the auditorium: "I'm disappointed in y'all. Y'all think that you can blame the white people just because fifty to a hundred years ago you were working in chains for them. That doesn't advance where we are. That doesn't advance anything. If anything, it makes people have less respect for you because you don't have the self respect to blame yourself for where you are now."
I thought that that person was amazing. I agree. I am 17 years old... I DIDN'T PUT YOU IN CHAINS!!! Nobody in my family did either! Why are you blaming me for something that I had no control over?
| Quote: | | Why are you blaming me for something that I had no control over? |
Because everyone wants someone else to blame.
In reality racism, or more accurately, prejudism is innate. We, as humans, take to people like ourselves better than people who aren't like ourselves. It's just human nature. Granted, that's no excuse to take it to the extremes and form hate groups or things of that nature.
So long as we are able to at least tolerate each other, which we're working to, the world will be a better one, for sure.
This type of thing really ticks me off!!!
This thing has gone on so much without much coverage; the one single thing that gets me is the MOBO awards. While I have nothing against the awards per say I am very aware of the fact that a MOWO awards would be very negatively received.
Mot that a particularly want a MOWO awards, its just the fact that the very perception of such as thing is regarded as a touchy subject. And no, the Country Music Awards does not count as anything approaching a MOWO awards ceremony before some joker pipes up with that one.
In fact I have nothing at all against any race celebrating its culture in whatever way it wishes. In fact I positively encourage it, as long as my culture is also allowed to do the same without claims of racism. We can then all come together and celebrate each other’s cultures without having a chip on our collective shoulders.
I’m white and proud to be white (you have no idea how worried I was typing this in case it was misinterpreted) just as any black person is black and is rightly proud of their culture.
The problem is that whenever you see the words ‘white’ and ‘proud’ or even worse, ’white’ and ‘pride’ in the same sentence people seem to suddenly imagine the writer to be a short haired, nazi-saluting zealot. Well I am not, I know I am not because I have searched my soul, seen that side of the argument and hated it.
I am an honest white Englishman trying to deal with the conflicting ideas of equality in a country that secretly knows it is PC crazy but does nothing about it.
Equality means EVRYONE is equal not just the minorities (no matter how much they deserve it) – again I felt I had to diffuse my last sentence by adding the words in brackets because whenever you raise your voice against an injustice made on behalf of the minorities against a majority you’re usually branded Racist.
| Soulfire wrote: | | kevbailey wrote: | | Why are you blaming me for something that I had no control over? |
Because everyone wants someone else to blame. |
I agree. I think that that is what it all boils down to. We want someone that we can blame our problems on, even if they are undeserving. Well said Soulfire.
wow  only white people can be racists, hell no :s
i used to live in a street with alot of people from other races, i was the only one who was born in belgium, and they discriminated me...
so idk who said this but its bullshit :/
WHY ARE YOU ALL WHINING?
I am a white south african who grew up during the apartheid regime. NO I did not support it, I was too young to understand yet I constantly get labled as racist for simply being a white south african. In 1992 when it all started falling apart I was only 14 years old, what does a 14 year old care about world events?
My point is thus, I finished high school in 1995 and applied for a scholarship to attend university in a chemical engineering program. I was refused because of my skin colour, not my above average results. Yet a black applicant with an educational equivalent of a 13 year old got in. People around the world who fought so hard so hard to get rid of apartheid say I benefited from it, so I got what I deserved. The same goes for every job I applied for, affirmative action, I get what I derserve for being a white south african.
Well when white americans, white british and any other white 1st world person moans because of such an injustice being metered out upon them I couldn't care less, you get what you deserve for being white. Your political correctness has landed you in it and there is nothing you can do about it, just as much as I can.
I don't see a difference between black or white, asian, hispanic or jew, even considering where I was raised. Yet the stigma follows me wherever I go, considering what the americans did to the native american indians, the australians did to the aboriginies, the spaniards did to the native south americans, the british did to the rest of the world and the chinese are doing to the nepalese only to mention a few.
I first heard of affirmative action from David Chapelle. I don't know if I understood his humor correctly but he seemed to be okay with it.
For me though, the only thing affirmative action affirms is that minorities NEED special treatment because they don't have what it takes to compete on an even playing field. I can understand how affirmative action can be seen as the government's compensation for years of oppression and discrimination, but I think that there should be a better way to get that intention across. The objective, after all, is to treat everyone equal. Affirmative action does give a lot of opportunity to the people it's for, but that's just the thing. Practically speaking, it can be also seen as against other people.
Needless to say, I find that it's completely unfair to make a statement like only white people can be racist.
| linangan wrote: | I first heard of affirmative action from David Chapelle. I don't know if I understood his humor correctly but he seemed to be okay with it.
For me though, the only thing affirmative action affirms is that minorities NEED special treatment because they don't have what it takes to compete on an even playing field. I can understand how affirmative action can be seen as the government's compensation for years of oppression and discrimination, but I think that there should be a better way to get that intention across. The objective, after all, is to treat everyone equal. Affirmative action does give a lot of opportunity to the people it's for, but that's just the thing. Practically speaking, it can be also seen as against other people.
Needless to say, I find that it's completely unfair to make a statement like only white people can be racist. |
And affirmative action is a great idea... to a point. If a previously oppressed group needs a chance to break into the mainstream, then yes, certainly, bias for them until the playing field is levelled.
But there comes a point where you have to say... wait a minute... is this really doing any good anymore? Is there really such a great difficulty for a sufficiently motivated non-white to get ahead in America that the entire country needs to be stunted in order to compensate for that imbalance (and i'll say more on that stunting in a minute)? Consider non-whites that have been enormously successful in their respective careers - Oprah Winfrey, Robert Johnson, Micheal Jackson, Patricia Bath, Micheal Jordan, Tiger Woods - pretty much all of whom came from literally nowhere. Many of them were born into a segregated America, remember, not the America of today, yet they still managed to find a niche. Since they have far fewer roadblocks, the next generation should have even more success stories.
At what point does affirmative action become no longer useful? Is it at the point when minorities are equally represented? i say no. i say it ceases to be useful at the point when minorities could be equally represented.
Affirmative action has its drawbacks, and despite what you suggest, they're not all about jealousy or the other guy getting hurt. Affirmative action hurts everybody. If you have money to spend on improving the community, and affirmative action is a factor in choosing where that money goes, then all other factors become that much less important. Non-minorites who would have benefited more from the money may be turned down simply because they're not the right colour. (Note: i'm not implying that affirmative action overrules every other consideration, just that it takes away from them. It has to. Imagine you have a choice that you're basing on two factors, A and B. A gets 75% of the consideration and B gets 25% normally. Now add C - affirmative action. Something has to suffer. It cannot be avoided.) A minority who does get a position will be left to wonder - did (s)he actually earn that position, or was it only because of affirmative action. An up and coming minority may not think it's necessary to work that hard, relying on affirmative action to help them along. Affirmative action isn't all roses - there are serious problems with it, and it does really harm everybody.
But the idea behind affirmative action is that the harm done by affirmative action is only temporary and far outweighed by the long-term good. When this is true, then yes, affirmative action is a good thing. But is it true nowadays? Is there really anything stopping a motivated minority from succeeding? Or is affirmative action merely helping the unmotivated - because the motivated don't need the help anymore?
So should we ditch it? Should we keep it? i dunno. i don't have any answers. But these are questions that need to be asked, and they need to be asked today, because the question is very relevant in our society.
| springbok wrote: | WHY ARE YOU ALL WHINING?
Well when white americans, white british and any other white 1st world person moans because of such an injustice being metered out upon them I couldn't care less, you get what you deserve for being white. Your political correctness has landed you in it and there is nothing you can do about it, just as much as I can.
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Not MY political correctness matey! My government speaks as much for me as yours did for you!
As for 'moaning' doesn't this show that we are at least not PC enough to simply keep quiet and smile?
| S3nd K3ys wrote: | http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2674267&page=1
| Quote: | BOSTON, Nov. 22, 2006 — Joe Mroszczyk, president of the College Republicans at Boston University, admits he set out to stir up a hornet's nest when he came up with the idea of offering a whites-only scholarship at the school. But he got a little more buzz than he bargained for.
"To tell you the truth, we didn't see this coming," Mroszczyk said. "The Drudge Report picked it up yesterday, and today I just finished a round of national interviews. It's kind of overwhelming."
All the media attention is focused on a $250 Caucasian Achievement and Recognition Scholarship offered by Mroszczyk and the BU chapter of the College Republicans. Applicants must have a cumulative grade point average of 3.2 or higher; they must write two essays; and, here's the kicker, they must be at least one-quarter Caucasian.
The application itself offers an explanation: "We believe that racial preferences in all their forms are perhaps the worst form of bigotry confronting America today."
According to Mroszczyk, his group is offering the scholarship to point out "how ridiculous it is to have any sort of racially based scholarship."
At BU, for example, students who are at least one-quarter Hispanic can apply for a National Hispanic Recognition Scholarship.
"There are plenty of poor, white, academically gifted students who need that money just as much," Mroszczyk said. |
Where's the outrage over blacks only scholarships? I guess that's not racist because it's blacks and we all know that only whites can be racist.....
The notion that one-way racism by blacks/latinos is acceptable because they have lower per capita incomes, as stated by a latino student in the article, is, itself, racist.
As always it's easier to blame "the man" than to take responsibility for one's one successes and failures.
I wonder what would happen if I were to apply for a scholarship through the United Negro College Fund... |
Its not really racism if it depends on the per capita income is it?
It is easy to see when someone is
'Perpetuating the Stereotype'
Racial equality is the last thing they really want.
Their biggest fear is to be treated equally.
Build role models not stereotypes!
I think this argument is a little one sided. Mostly because this forum is probably more than 90% white males that live in the suburbs. In which case none of you would really need a scholarship, just get the money from your college fund.
| robohobo wrote: | | I think this argument is a little one sided. Mostly because this forum is probably more than 90% white males that live in the suburbs. In which case none of you would really need a scholarship, just get the money from your college fund. |
WTF?
1) The problem is that not only blacks are affected by racism; worse, that too may blacks are becoming just as racist as those that they complained about. In other words, blacks are demonstrating a really nasty side of equality.
2) At the same time, how do you figure that suburban white guys don't need scholarships? Have you honestly bothered looking at how much school costs? And then compared it to how big loans have gotten? Worse, you have less than a third of scholarship money dogeared for blacks being actually used.
So, you have increased college costs, which lead to increased loans, and most miniorities are complaining about having no opportunities, even as the amount of money they have to play around with increases. At the same time, the amount of money available for white students not only shrinks, but you can't have white-only or male-only scholarships.
It's hard to be a white male looking at college, especially when you look at what is available and realize that little of it is for you. Worse, those that it was set up for are complaining have access to most of it. The system has gotten so politically correct that it needs to be brought back under control, and balanced better...Anyone that wants an education should be able to get one, and it's becoming harder if you don't have the right genes.
Ironically, everyone agrees on that, just not from the same perspective...
HM
HM
It is very difficult to have a society that universally equal. In no capitalistic society this can happen ever. We do know the evils of the communistic and socialistic ones on the other hand. Inequality will exist and continue to exist. Either the class divide or the race divide or whatever it be.
Apart from this, there can also be divides on the basis of origins. Texan or the guy from the south. (Decent right.. i don't want to use the names). specific encouragement needs to be given to every one of them by the same people or by others who ever things they need it.
there is nothing wrong if I fund my favorite basket ball team. Why would be it wrong if I fund a group I think should progress. For all that I know, they might be ruling the world now. I might like them to continue ruling the world for some more time. I think it is an individuals prerogative and the public should have no say in such matters.
But what is of importance is the Governmental or University Grants. They should go to the deserving either isolated by the race or by any other means that shows they deserve because they are neglected and in the lower end of the society. Money is not the only differentiator.
Wow, that's horrible. I don't think there's anything wrong with a white-only scholarship.
I feel strongly that being rasist cannot only go one way (white to black) as after all it stems from being prejeist. (can't spell). although in many countrys blacks are in a minority so this can only go on way, although when it does its called inverse rasitium. although projestic happens everywhere so to be honest i don't think rasium is as big a deal as it is. bulling and age dicrimination happens at just a big a level but suddenly its not a big a deal?
| S3nd K3ys wrote: | http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2674267&page=1
| Quote: | BOSTON, Nov. 22, 2006 — Joe Mroszczyk, president of the College Republicans at Boston University, admits he set out to stir up a hornet's nest when he came up with the idea of offering a whites-only scholarship at the school. But he got a little more buzz than he bargained for.
"To tell you the truth, we didn't see this coming," Mroszczyk said. "The Drudge Report picked it up yesterday, and today I just finished a round of national interviews. It's kind of overwhelming."
All the media attention is focused on a $250 Caucasian Achievement and Recognition Scholarship offered by Mroszczyk and the BU chapter of the College Republicans. Applicants must have a cumulative grade point average of 3.2 or higher; they must write two essays; and, here's the kicker, they must be at least one-quarter Caucasian.
The application itself offers an explanation: "We believe that racial preferences in all their forms are perhaps the worst form of bigotry confronting America today."
According to Mroszczyk, his group is offering the scholarship to point out "how ridiculous it is to have any sort of racially based scholarship."
At BU, for example, students who are at least one-quarter Hispanic can apply for a National Hispanic Recognition Scholarship.
"There are plenty of poor, white, academically gifted students who need that money just as much," Mroszczyk said. |
Where's the outrage over blacks only scholarships? I guess that's not racist because it's blacks and we all know that only whites can be racist.....
The notion that one-way racism by blacks/latinos is acceptable because they have lower per capita incomes, as stated by a latino student in the article, is, itself, racist.
As always it's easier to blame "the man" than to take responsibility for one's one successes and failures.
I wonder what would happen if I were to apply for a scholarship through the United Negro College Fund... |
somehting like 52% of students in harvard are either Jewish or Indian. Whites are under-represented.
Is this because they r white? no.. If u look at people with the highest IQ it is:
1. Indian
2. Chinese.
3. Jews
4. White
..
n. African Blacks
Im not sure about USA, but 20% of the British born doctors are Indian.
so its perfectly right that jews, Chinese and Indian to have a dominate influence in Harvard. However, there is also racism in the selection process that favour whites over Jews and especially over Indian (because of colour).
The ethnic groups other than blacks do not benefit from scholorships, and if they do, then it is due to social condition (such as poor family or from deprived areas) and not race. Even if you look at income, Indians and Chinese earn more than the white in salary in the UK on average, despite racism favouring whites in the selection process since most recruitment people are white in major businesses. Hence, Indians dominate as doctors where there cannot be any sort of racism in selection process since its public not private, and also cus there is a shortage of doctors.
Thus having scholorships for blacks (IE. Not Indian, Chinese, Jews or Whites but BLACK Africans) would in my view be acceptbale because they have the lowest IQ.
For blacks, in my view it should be permitted, in order to closen the IQ gap and allow more blacks at prestigous unis.
And jus to make it clear: By blacks, I refer to either African or Aboriginal Australian.
Black Africans (for IQ) are NOT North African which is light skinned and can be classified as Arab such as Morocco, Tunisia, Egypt etc.
Black Africans are the people on the african continent excluding North Africans who in my view are not true africans and should be classified as African Arabs. It jus so happens that North Africans have a higher IQ than the rest of Black Africa.
| tommypanda wrote: | | I feel strongly that being rasist cannot only go one way (white to black) as after all it stems from being prejeist. (can't spell). although in many countrys blacks are in a minority so this can only go on way, although when it does its called inverse rasitium. although projestic happens everywhere so to be honest i don't think rasium is as big a deal as it is. bulling and age dicrimination happens at just a big a level but suddenly its not a big a deal? |
No.
Racism for any reason needs to stamped out. Period. Once you allow racism for any reason, you start down a very slippery slope...
HM
| Afaceinthematrix wrote: | | I hate that whole mentality that only whites can be racist. I go to a school with about 5% white people. Most of the school is hispanic and black. They are so racist to us white people but the second we say anythign back all of a sudden we're called "racists." It really annoys me. As far as the scholarships for "minorities," I've still applied for some. hey, I'm white but I'm a minority at my school. I'm also at the top of my class. Most of my school is a bunch of drop-out prone people who don't try, and don't even deserve the scholarship. And whatever happened to "racial equality?" If I apply for a hispanic or black scholarship, they can't really do much because unless I have to send in a picture or some sort of proof, how will they know what my race is? Are they going to come to my door, knock on it, and demand to see it? I have the grades so if they want to deny me the scholarship, at least I know they had to work at it. |
What you are talking about is the positive racism!  Read the Scarman report for what he says about it and why that is better than the negative rascism. Anyway, racism of all hues are bad, in my opinion.
| Quote: | For blacks, in my view it should be permitted, in order to closen the IQ gap and allow more blacks at prestigous unis.
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I think, there are two types of affirmative action that is required. One, when the race or a class of people are economically poor and they need support to come out of the vale they are in. Second, when the race or the class of people are weaker in terms of IQ or education because they were deprived of such exposures due to social and economical conditions. In either of the cases, affirmative action should be provided to these people to ensure that they come up on par with the rest of the world.
Those options are already available; they just aren't used. Less than one third of all scholarship and grant available for black students gets used, Even more interesting, the Anti-Gang forces that are set up never seem to realize that working together; rather than pulling together and creating a power block that could defeat gangsters, every group is so interested in its own success that they don't seem to see that pulling together would create a true force to be reckoned with.
It would be interesting to see what could be accomplished if they were serious about the gang problem, rather than just counting coup.
The better question: What do you when the group in question likes the set-up, apparently just so they CAN complain about it?
HM
| rshanthakumar wrote: | | Quote: | For blacks, in my view it should be permitted, in order to closen the IQ gap and allow more blacks at prestigous unis.
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I think, there are two types of affirmative action that is required. One, when the race or a class of people are economically poor and they need support to come out of the vale they are in. Second, when the race or the class of people are weaker in terms of IQ or education because they were deprived of such exposures due to social and economical conditions. In either of the cases, affirmative action should be provided to these people to ensure that they come up on par with the rest of the world. |
Right. When a class of people is economically poorer. Not when a race is economically poorer. That's racism, isn't it? Diving the black poor people from the, let's say, white poor people. They should be treated equally, not by race.
You begin to notice that it's not just race these days, though. Sexism has also become a major problem in todays life - Go look through the jokes forum. You'll find many more jokes about men then women. I promise you that.
Equalitarianism is but a distant dream yet...
Again I really don't understand racism. I can definitely guarantee that whites are not the only racist out there so I guess when you think about it some people are just brought up that way or had a poor role model. Don't attack me but here is my view on the situation. Every single person is a little bit of a bigot at times so everyone on the planet (even if they apologized for it) has at least once said some sort of racist comment. If they haven't said one then they sure were thinking it and probably thinking it loudly. Also racism(despite what it was created for) is often generated by affirmative action. Again don't kill me for speaking my mind I like living.
| medievalman26 wrote: | | Again I really don't understand racism. I can definitely guarantee that whites are not the only racist out there so I guess when you think about it some people are just brought up that way or had a poor role model. Don't attack me but here is my view on the situation. Every single person is a little bit of a bigot at times so everyone on the planet (even if they apologized for it) has at least once said some sort of racist comment. If they haven't said one then they sure were thinking it and probably thinking it loudly. Also racism(despite what it was created for) is often generated by affirmative action. Again don't kill me for speaking my mind I like living. |
Not every one really!
Racism is over only when the number of people from all races occupying top positions everywhere is proportional to the population as well. That is, if thirty percent of US population is of blacks then 30% or at least about it, of the Government secretaries and advisors to the President should be blacks. Do we have that scene? If 50% of the population are women, then over a period of time say two centuries, 50% of the presidents should have been women. The same is valid for blacks too. 30% of the presidents should have been blacks. Only then there is equality. And racism is down and out. Until then, it is very very much there! and whoever is occupying the top posts more are the people who are practising it not the other way round.
1) The percentage of blacks in America is 12%.
2) And that's just stupid. The logic just doesn't work out. Besides having some really bad math, you're ignoring the real world situation that just because racism isn't a factor, doesn't mean that the race in question will be represented; some groups just don't feel comfortable with representation, or its individual members don't want the job.
In other words, in order to get the numbers you want, you'll need to not only force people to be elected, but in large numbers...
HM
Everybody can be racist, race doesn't matter... But I think racism is much worse when practices by the majority or the ruling people.
I disagree; I think that any racism is evil. Racism can beget more racism; as one group feels (unjustifiably) oppressed by another, that other group can begin to resent the "oppressed" group for their fallacious beliefs. Eventually, both groups will have more racists...
So ANY racism is evil...
HM
Blacks can be racist. Whites can be racist. Asians can be racist. but should they be? No.
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