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Monster of Loch Ness
Do you people think Nessie really exists? I don't know really, so convince me...
Nice stories plz
DON'T FORGET TO VOTE!
Last edited by Warriorza on Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:25 am; edited 2 times in total
Nice stories plz
DON'T FORGET TO VOTE!
Last edited by Warriorza on Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:25 am; edited 2 times in total
I think Nessie, or a Nessie family is there somewhere. Loch Ness is huge and extremely deep, with underwater caves, so it's not surprising Nessie hasn't been found yet. I hope the existence of Nessie is never proven. We live in a scientific world where everything has to be proven or disproved. We need Nessie type stories. 
It has been searched for by enthusiasts, scientists and nutcases over many years.
I don't think it exists, sorry.
I don't think it exists, sorry.
I really don't care TBH
I think mabye something weird may be in there, but not some huge monster thingyo.
Never know mabye the simpsons where right and they'll find it and get it to work in a casino somewhere.
Never know mabye the simpsons where right and they'll find it and get it to work in a casino somewhere.
Maybe, I do believe it could be possible, but I dont think too much of it.
The photos were most probably real (not hoaxed), and I guess I believe in the Loch Ness Monster; but it could have easily died by now, or it could've been something simple that looked different from a large distance.
-Rhys
-Rhys
yep i have one for a pet
No.
They've searched for air spaces (lungs) with sonar and all sorts. I highly doubt its existence.
They've searched for air spaces (lungs) with sonar and all sorts. I highly doubt its existence.
Well, I think we could make a poll about this...
I hope that a creature like that could existe, but its hard to say it it is even possible, let alone likely to be in that spot, or be the same individual creature each time, its a hard debate this cyptozoology!
They’ve looked for this thing for a long time haven’t they? I think it would be safe to say that if you can’t find it isn’t there. What doesn’t mean it isn’t there but for all intent and purposes it isn’t, until they find it of course, that is if it’s there at all, which would be cool.
i think there are just a few of them and they are what remains of the plesiosaurs. however most sightings are probably hoaxes.
| Warriorza wrote: |
| Do you people think Nessie really exists? I don't...
Nice stories plz |
I voted "I want it to be true, but I don't think so". I dont think it´s true simply cause then scientists would have found it long ago. But on the other hand I wish it was true, since it would be really cool
That's a nice myth.
I wish it was true, actually. I don't believe in that but if one day I go to Scotland, you can be sure I'll go check the Loch Ness to see if there's something moving in it
I wish it was true, actually. I don't believe in that but if one day I go to Scotland, you can be sure I'll go check the Loch Ness to see if there's something moving in it
If it would exist you can find within the day a bus filled with tha big men off Six Flags... If you get what i mean 
What would ya do when a "monsters" exists somewhere exists? Yeah, you would watch it! And probably Six Flags will buy the lake and let you pay 50 bugs to see a big pool with Nessie in.
What would ya do when a "monsters" exists somewhere exists? Yeah, you would watch it! And probably Six Flags will buy the lake and let you pay 50 bugs to see a big pool with Nessie in.
If it DID exist, it would be dead by now because the mith has been around for hundreds of years.
| Desmond wrote: |
| If it DID exist, it would be dead by now because the mith has been around for hundreds of years. |
Good point! But what if it's multiplying in secret caves under the lake, like in the movie Loch Ness?
http://imdb.com/title/tt0113682/I dont know, but it can be. 
Scientists (with backing by people with money ), have already searched using all sorts of weird instruments. As such I feel certain it doesn't exists. I'm not though ruling out the possibility it may have existed in the past, since having died and decayed. 
), have already searched using all sorts of weird instruments. As such I feel certain it doesn't exists. I'm not though ruling out the possibility it may have existed in the past, since having died and decayed. posible ,yes. nessie could be a water dwelling dinosaur. seriosly look at all the water creatures we didn't know about or thought were extinct! verry posible and would be so cool to be verrified.
I don't believe in Loch Ness legend. As it is so huge, it would have been seen, as it is not seen, I don't think it is in this world. Propably there could have been just a big whale, which got on some grass and it became green color. After that somebody saw it and said, that it is Loch Ness monster.. ehh.. isn't it lake, how whale could have gotten there? Well, I have no idea. I don't believe just in it.
You all say it doesn't exists anymore cause - even if it would exist - the myth is centuries old... Maybe Nessie only comes to breed in the lake and goes back to open sea afterwards? This would explain why only few people have seen her and why she exists for over centuries. I think this myth could be true, but I don't think it's a lost dinosaur, but a big fish, shark or whale that evolved in another way than other seacreatures did. As earlier said, Nessie's myth is probably 1000 years old, and she had a lot of time to evolve.
i dont believe but you find a lot of informations about it so i dont know, maybe, look at this :
The Loch Ness "monster" -- affectionately known as "Nessie" -- is an alleged plesiosaur-like creature living in Loch Ness, a long, deep lake near Inverness, Scotland. Many sightings of the "monster" have been recorded, going back at least as far as St. Columba, the Irish monk wThe Fake in the Lakeho converted most of Scotland to Christianity in the 6th century. Columba apparently converted Nessie, too; for it is said that until he went out on the waters and soothed the beast, she had been a murderess.
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hum so maybe...
The Loch Ness "monster" -- affectionately known as "Nessie" -- is an alleged plesiosaur-like creature living in Loch Ness, a long, deep lake near Inverness, Scotland. Many sightings of the "monster" have been recorded, going back at least as far as St. Columba, the Irish monk wThe Fake in the Lakeho converted most of Scotland to Christianity in the 6th century. Columba apparently converted Nessie, too; for it is said that until he went out on the waters and soothed the beast, she had been a murderess.
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hum so maybe...
option 4 it is... i so want it to be true but i dont think it is.. would be really cool.. and i also want to know what happened at the bermuda triangle and i would like to see some UFO's and meet some aliens !! yeah... seriously...
It's a load of crap. There is no hard evidence whatsoever to support it. You might as well believe there was a giant flying pizza that lived in the sky over Canada.
I doubt there is a large underwater creature in Loch Ness. There may, however, be these giant dinosaur-esque creatures living deep under the water where we cannot go yet.
Who knows? That may be one of the few places pre-historic creatures may have survived after whatever killed the dinosaurs (the meteor or whatever). Hopefully in my lifetime they find just such a thing. If we can ever get down that far.
Who knows? That may be one of the few places pre-historic creatures may have survived after whatever killed the dinosaurs (the meteor or whatever). Hopefully in my lifetime they find just such a thing. If we can ever get down that far.
I know it's a big lake, but it's still a lake. If we haven't found anyting yet, I doubt it's there. I mean, we've done far more amazing things than find something in a lake, so if it was there, we should have gotten evidence by now.
I'm going to say no.
I'm going to say no.
I think that is was a big shark or a dinosaurus but i don't know if it's real ! but i like it it's funny!
Its a fairytail 
I found Nessies scientific name 
Nessiteras rhombopteryx
I'm really not joking xD
Nessiteras rhombopteryx
I'm really not joking xD
I can't answer that poll, as it doesn't have my answer.
I think that most of the modern sightings are just hoaxes or people thinking that they've seen something simply because they're expecting it and thus imagine that things are not what they really are.
Of course it's possible that there is something there, but it's unlikely to be so fantastic as we all think; at most a dinosaur that's still alive. This is possible - just unlikely.
Think about it though, people have searched for decades and found no concrete proof, this thing would have to be more than just very elusive to actually exist down there in the depths of Loch Ness - even if it did leave the loch through some hidden underwater passage (or such escape).
Anyway, all that's left for me to show you is this, an actual photograph I took a while ago and posted in another thread here on Frihost.
This totally proves the existence of the Loch Ness monster, don't you all agree?
I think that most of the modern sightings are just hoaxes or people thinking that they've seen something simply because they're expecting it and thus imagine that things are not what they really are.
Of course it's possible that there is something there, but it's unlikely to be so fantastic as we all think; at most a dinosaur that's still alive. This is possible - just unlikely.
Think about it though, people have searched for decades and found no concrete proof, this thing would have to be more than just very elusive to actually exist down there in the depths of Loch Ness - even if it did leave the loch through some hidden underwater passage (or such escape).
Anyway, all that's left for me to show you is this, an actual photograph I took a while ago and posted in another thread here on Frihost.
This totally proves the existence of the Loch Ness monster, don't you all agree?
Scotland has plenty of micro climates on land , maybe theres one underwater in the loch providing different sub-aqua climates and enabling what would be considered strange creatures for the area to exist, there is plenty of fish in the loch so its only a hop skip and a jump to assuming there will be some big predators in there somewhere.....
Personally I like to think there are some strange creatures still out there, but rather than a dinosaur still existing in Loch Ness I think its much more likely to be something along the lines of an Oarfish
Personally I like to think there are some strange creatures still out there, but rather than a dinosaur still existing in Loch Ness I think its much more likely to be something along the lines of an Oarfish
| tumbleweed wrote: |
| Personally I like to think there are some strange creatures still out there, but rather than a dinosaur still existing in Loch Ness I think its much more likely to be something along the lines of an Oarfish |
Yeah, definitely.
It's far more likely that there are just a couple of large fish (the species isn't really relevant to aid this argument - perhaps it's a variety of species) which live in the lake and are occasionally mistaken for the Loch Ness Monster. Yet when people go hunting for this so called monster these fish are just seen as the creatures they really are and left to swim undisturbed.
Well, it might be, but I think it is fairly unlikely.
Well i have finally figured it out see the "Loch Ness" species or "Monster" as they call it is actually an eveloution of that one dinosaur thing starts with a P oh yeah plesiosaur that has gills and lungs and there is a system of underwater passage ways deep deep down in Loch Ness that leads to various big places such as the lake and the atlantic ocean but it is to far for anything of our technology to reach it and in this passageway system there are caves that it breeds in now eventually there numbers will grow and they will show themselves as a part of humanity and be gentle giants (this is a theory that i have been working on for many many years)
I really thought everyone would say it's impossible, but you give nice arguments guys!
N'an, dont believe in it at all.... Would be nice tho, in a way, but realisticly.. no way...
Well i have always wanted it to be true LOL!! But the probability is low. But I guess its nice to believe in something even though its probably bogus. Helps keep up the aura and something to think about, same as E.T!
I'm not convinced... 3 voting options have equal votes...
Definitely not. You see, there are no fish in Loch Ness that are large enough for Nessie, let alone a family, to survive off of. Plus, that photograph was a hoax.
its definitely a big fish and fog. No one has ever captured it or found any remains. Scales, teeth, feces, etc.
| Clone Rabbit wrote: |
| Definitely not. You see, there are no fish in Loch Ness that are large enough for Nessie, let alone a family, to survive off of. Plus, that photograph was a hoax. |
Remember that Baleen Whales feed on plankton, some of the smallest creatures in the sea. I don't think it's the size of the possible pray that counts, but the quantity - with this in mind you see that there is plenty of food for a large creature to live there. It's just extremely unlikely that anything resembling the Loch Ness Monster actually does.
Oh, and what photograph are you talking about?
| ninjakannon wrote: |
| Oh, and what photograph are you talking about? |
The one you posted earlier maybe?
how about adding an option: Its a fraud in order to get attention and turism. No, its not a big fish or shark, its just a faulty picture, like many other pictures which where taken with these ancient cameras...
It could very well be a large eel or something similar. Fact or fiction, it's still a good story.
| Warriorza wrote: | ||
The one you posted earlier maybe? |
I thought so, but it's so obviously fake I dismissed the idea.
All I did was get two images from Google images, cut out the head and neck and stick it on. If you look closely you'll realise I used MS Paint and just draged lots of squares of water from the lake over the white surrounding the 'monster'.
I think the Scottish government have searched, and probably know the truth, but dont want to let the truth out because they make so much money from tourists each year.
As cool as it would be for there to really be a Loch Ness monster or some sort of large, undiscovered creature living there... I doubt it. I wish it were true! And maybe it is, or maybe one day we will know for sure one way or another. But at least for now there is still the mystery.
Definitely a ******-and-bull story. There are no monsters on this planet - except my Maths teacher maybe...
I, too, would like for the stories to be true, but doubt that they are.
It would be a sad thing for there to be no stories like this, because it would mean that all the mystery was gone, and there was no more wonder in the world. Almost all of the Earth's surface has been charted and photographed. The only unknowns we have are under water and beyond the atmosphere.
It's fun to imagine what might lie in the depths of that dark Scottish loch, on the shores of which once lived one of the most infamous magi of modern times, Aliester Crowley.
Make a connection between Crowley and Nessie and you'd have a great plot for a horror novel.
It would be a sad thing for there to be no stories like this, because it would mean that all the mystery was gone, and there was no more wonder in the world. Almost all of the Earth's surface has been charted and photographed. The only unknowns we have are under water and beyond the atmosphere.
It's fun to imagine what might lie in the depths of that dark Scottish loch, on the shores of which once lived one of the most infamous magi of modern times, Aliester Crowley.
Make a connection between Crowley and Nessie and you'd have a great plot for a horror novel.
I just like the story, but after these replies, I also think it can't be true.
That's why my vote now goes to: I want it to be true, but I don't think so.
That's why my vote now goes to: I want it to be true, but I don't think so.
It probably can't exist. It's probably too cold for it in Scotland.
Hell not even the residents of scotland like the coldness and they don't live in the loch.
Perhaps the Loch Ness Monster really lives in the bahamas.
Hell not even the residents of scotland like the coldness and they don't live in the loch.
Perhaps the Loch Ness Monster really lives in the bahamas.
| Blu_Spykz wrote: |
| It probably can't exist. It's probably too cold for it in Scotland. |
There are hundreds of fish, eels and other creatures which live in the waters of Loch Ness, I don't think temperature is an issue here.
| Helios wrote: |
| I really don't care TBH |
Then why in the world are you posting?
I think Nessie does'n't exist, but it sure would be cool if there was a creature living in Loch Ness that looks like a sea-dinosaur. But it's just very unlikely.
I voted for "I want it to be true, but I don't think so."
First of all, I would like to quote the definition from Wikipedia and stress some interesting arguments that appeal to me :
Then, there's this world famous picture taken back in 1934 :
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/79/Lochnessmonster.jpg
I really have no idea at all whether Nessie could exist or not but I know that given the fact that scientific research and technology has evolved so quickly and that, Im pretty sure that scientific underwater researchers must have covered the whole lake since the rumor was first spread throughout the media.
There is strictly no point in making Nessy's existence a state secret or whatsoever.
Since now and then, each time I talk about Scotland, its kindda hard not to bring up the "Loch Ness Monster" making it the number one Scotish fact to tell about to your friends.
Scotland is a beautiful country and should not be restricted to Nessy.
More info here :
http://www.scotland.com/
Cheers
First of all, I would like to quote the definition from Wikipedia and stress some interesting arguments that appeal to me :
| Quote: |
| The Loch Ness Monster, sometimes called Nessie or Ness (Scottish Gaelic: Niseag), is said to be a mysterious and unidentified animal, or group of animals, claimed by some to inhabit the Scottish loch of Loch Ness, the largest freshwater loch, or lake, in Great Britain by volume. Nessie is usually categorized as a type of lake monster.
Along with Bigfoot and the Abominable Snowman, Nessie is one of the best-known mysteries of cryptozoology. Most scientists and other experts find current evidence supporting Nessie unpersuasive, and regard the occasional reports of sightings as hoaxes or misidentification of mundane creatures or natural phenomena. However, belief in the animal persists among many people around the world, with the most popular theory being that it is a plesiosaur. |
Then, there's this world famous picture taken back in 1934 :
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/79/Lochnessmonster.jpg
I really have no idea at all whether Nessie could exist or not but I know that given the fact that scientific research and technology has evolved so quickly and that, Im pretty sure that scientific underwater researchers must have covered the whole lake since the rumor was first spread throughout the media.
There is strictly no point in making Nessy's existence a state secret or whatsoever.
Since now and then, each time I talk about Scotland, its kindda hard not to bring up the "Loch Ness Monster" making it the number one Scotish fact to tell about to your friends.
Scotland is a beautiful country and should not be restricted to Nessy.
More info here :
http://www.scotland.com/
Cheers
I believe in this monster ness, is real 
I honestly don't know. I've never been outside the united states, sadly enough. Maybe one day I'll be able to go there and check it out myself. I'm a little on the skeptical side, people have been investigating the loch for years now and no one has found any hard evidence to prove it one way or the other. I think that nessie will probably stay one of those mysteries that never end up solved. Besides, what fun would it be if we had NO mysteries?
It would seriously hurt the economy of the local towns if someone could prove that nessie didn't exist beyond a reasonable doubt. I think it's best if people would just leave it alone...
It would seriously hurt the economy of the local towns if someone could prove that nessie didn't exist beyond a reasonable doubt. I think it's best if people would just leave it alone...
| rampantinsanity wrote: |
| It would seriously hurt the economy of the local towns if someone could prove that nessie didn't exist beyond a reasonable doubt. I think it's best if people would just leave it alone... |
On the other hand, if it was proven that 'Nessie' does exist then the number of tourists that would flock there would destroy the local area in quite a different way. The place would become driven by tourism and filled with short stay hotels for people to take a weekend out to see the 'beast'. The discovery would be massive anyway, imagine if some huge 'monster' really did live down there!
I don't believe it exists, but I won't be so quick to deny anyone the opinion that it does. I don't have any evidence or experience to do so. I don't think anyone really does, IMO. We know quite a bit about our planet but it seems that we are still constantly making discoveries and disproving skeptics. (I'm thinking of very basic things like sending a man to the moon, treating new diseases, etc.)
I also think that having these unsolved mysteries is what keeps us human. It's in our nature to be imaginative and curious, not to mention skeptical. Sometimes we need this to make leaps in the general progress of humanity. (petroleum alternatives?) Sometimes it sets the stage for self-perpetuated ignorance and often violence. (organized religion?)
Yeah, I know that was extremely open ended by the way. Any other thoughts?
I also think that having these unsolved mysteries is what keeps us human. It's in our nature to be imaginative and curious, not to mention skeptical. Sometimes we need this to make leaps in the general progress of humanity. (petroleum alternatives?) Sometimes it sets the stage for self-perpetuated ignorance and often violence. (organized religion?)
Yeah, I know that was extremely open ended by the way. Any other thoughts?
| a.Bird wrote: |
| I'm thinking of very basic things like sending a man to the moon, treating new diseases, etc. |
In what way is either sending a man to the moon or treating a new disease basic? Or have I misinterpreted you? Sorry if I have.
| ninjakannon wrote: | ||
In what way is either sending a man to the moon or treating a new disease basic? Or have I misinterpreted you? Sorry if I have. |
Haha, you are correct my friend; basic was the wrong word. What I mean to say is "fundamental leaps in progress."
| a.Bird wrote: | ||||
Haha, you are correct my friend; basic was the wrong word. What I mean to say is "fundamental leaps in progress." |
Yeah, that makes more sense.
I don't believe it.. It is just an stupid story of an old man that died long time ago...
It could very well be some kind of swimming dinosaur, why not? The lake is so big and deep that you cannot possibly say that there's nothing there for sure. Being in the deep water a group of swiming dinosaurs could survive the events that made the other dinosaurs go extinct.
| jeanoradean wrote: |
| It could very well be some kind of swimming dinosaur, why not? The lake is so big and deep that you cannot possibly say that there's nothing there for sure. Being in the deep water a group of swiming dinosaurs could survive the events that made the other dinosaurs go extinct. |
Hang on a second, if there are dinosaurs living in Loch Ness that survived merely because they were in deep water and thus avoided the meteor [or whatever it was] that wiped out the dinosaurs then why are there not other dinosaurs living in the sea and other large bodies of water around the world?
Although it is possible, I think that this explanation is rather spurious. If there is some species of dinosaur living in Loch Ness then they would have survived for some other reason, perhaps because of the habitat or an abundant supply of food. We don't know; furthermore, we will only find out if we discover what the 'monster' really is. So far we've had no luck, so don't you think it rather more likely that we won't find something [unless it's put there]?
i want it to be true...n if i ever go to scotland im sure i'd go to see if it is there!!!
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