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God had a brother!
Who here who believes in a god, and was brought up on god as a kid, believes me when I tell them that God has a brother that god plays chess with all the time?
How do I know this? An Angel told me this and wanted to share it to the world.
I'm doing Psychology experiment (for Psychology Class), just collecting some data.
You don't have to say why. Although the point of this is one way to add data to my experiment about how young minds can be influenced with ideas easier than older minds.
How do I know this? An Angel told me this and wanted to share it to the world.
I'm doing Psychology experiment (for Psychology Class), just collecting some data.
You don't have to say why. Although the point of this is one way to add data to my experiment about how young minds can be influenced with ideas easier than older minds.
Gee, I must have been misguided... I thought there was only one God...
Wait; obstinancy ciruits activating...
Request for change of belief
Wait; obstinancy ciruits activating...
Request for change of belief
Maybe young minds are easily influenced, but I would think you would at least have to say SOMETHING believable to make an influence. Basically you're saying that something they have been taught is completely wrong. If you at least back that up with a little evidence, you might be able to convince a little easier.
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| Maybe young minds are easily influenced, but I would think you would at least have to say SOMETHING believable to make an influence. Basically you're saying that something they have been taught is completely wrong. If you at least back that up with a little evidence, you might be able to convince a little easier. |
I told you my evidence, an angel told me. Is that any more different than someone telling something that happened thousands of years ago and now you must live a life of worship? I gave you just as much evidence as you were given as a child, yet you never questioned the evidence and asked for proof.
Just like a kid who was brought up in Southern U.S.A before the Civil War, many kids never questioned equal rights and it was simply placed in there minds that black people were inferior. I mean what evidence was there to prove that black people were inferior? Yet the kids accepted it and believed it. As people like this grow up, they will have hatred toward the black people. Simply it is in there head that they were inferior.
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I am not saying anything that is wrong. God created this new brother in about 1990. God accepts people for saying only one God as he never reinformed anybody till now. Also from the Angel.
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I told you my evidence, an angel told me. Is that any more different than someone telling something that happened thousands of years ago and now you must live a life of worship? I gave you just as much evidence as you were given as a child, yet you never questioned the evidence and asked for proof. Just like a kid who was brought up in Southern U.S.A before the Civil War, many kids never questioned equal rights and it was simply placed in there minds that black people were inferior. I mean what evidence was there to prove that black people were inferior? Yet the kids accepted it and believed it. As people like this grow up, they will have hatred toward the black people. Simply it is in there head that they were inferior.
I am not saying anything that is wrong. God created this new brother in about 1990. God accepts people for saying only one God as he never reinformed anybody till now. Also from the Angel. |
In that case, I assume you have a group of children to whom you are telling this to gauge their reaction and using this forum as examples of "older" minds' reactions?
Of course, you actually need tight, diverse groups with some heavy demographics to produce any sort of viable results. Anything posted here would be unacceptable in any scientific study without a lot of amplifying data.
Respectfully,
M
This is just a single piece of the data that does have a comparision as well as several others comparisons. I've furthor gone to include other studies far outside of religion. This is a minor part of the study.
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| I'm doing Psychology experiment (for Psychology Class), just collecting some data.
You don't have to say why. Although the point of this is one way to add data to my experiment about how young minds can be influenced with ideas easier than older minds. |
And I assume telling us it's an experiment is PART of the experiment? So you are testing how a non-random group (this board's denizens are not exactly your average anything) responds to nonsense?
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| And I assume telling us it's an experiment is PART of the experiment? So you are testing how a non-random group (this board's denizens are not exactly your average anything) responds to nonsense? |
This forum is somewhat diverse compared to others. But this is really no more than a survey. So does it matter if you know? When your taking a survey you would think that somebody is using this information for a study. I do not control who takes the survey I do not know who takes the survey. So this is just as random as if I left 10 copies in my school library.
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This forum is somewhat diverse compared to others. But this is really no more than a survey. So does it matter if you know? When your taking a survey you would think that somebody is using this information for a study. I do not control who takes the survey I do not know who takes the survey. So this is just as random as if I left 10 copies in my school library. |
I have to disagree strongly with you on two issues here.
First off, of course it matters if you know that you are in an experiment. That is the whole reason behind blind and double blind testing. This isn't a survey, it's a psychology experiment. When people know that they are being watched and analysed, they very often change their responses. The only way it could be valid is if you are testing something completely different from the stated purpose, which goes back to my original post.
You think this is random because you don't control or know who is taking it? That is not what random means. But in a way you are right in your statement that it might be as random as leaving it in a school library. In that case you are pre-selecting respondants that are predominately from a narrow age group(you said it was a school) and that are either students or serious readers. If it's a college library, you might be selecting on only Physics or art students. Not a random sampling. It's been pointed out that this forum is populated mostly by males, so anything from this "experiment" will be heavily biased in favor of "male" responses.
So, what really is the point of the above silliness?
Well... I belive you data collector... not because you told me so.. but in hinduism.. where there is many gods.. most god have brothers, wife and children.. except the para brahm or brahmin who is the supreme soul.. so this is not a comletly new thing to me.. but just a reinforcement.. well.. any hindus here.. to say.. that.. God doesn't have a family... Gods and Demons have there own community like the us right? Atleast I think I am somewhat close to the point..
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| First off, of course it matters if you know that you are in an experiment. That is the whole reason behind blind and double blind testing. This isn't a survey, it's a psychology experiment. When people know that they are being watched and analysed, they very often change their responses. The only way it could be valid is if you are testing something completely different from the stated purpose, which goes back to my original post.
You think this is random because you don't control or know who is taking it? That is not what random means. But in a way you are right in your statement that it might be as random as leaving it in a school library. In that case you are pre-selecting respondants that are predominately from a narrow age group(you said it was a school) and that are either students or serious readers. If it's a college library, you might be selecting on only Physics or art students. Not a random sampling. It's been pointed out that this forum is populated mostly by males, so anything from this "experiment" will be heavily biased in favor of "male" responses.[/code] |
By Random I mean anyone can come here and take it. Theres probably more diversity here than in my school library. Here I have people from different countries, different parts of the world. It's not like i'm going into McDonalds and asking "Who here likes McDonalds"?.
This is equal to a survey thats part of my experiment. That simple.
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By Random I mean anyone can come here and take it. Theres probably more diversity here than in my school library. Here I have people from different countries, different parts of the world. It's not like i'm going into McDonalds and asking "Who here likes McDonalds"?. This is equal to a survey thats part of my experiment. That simple. |
Okay, but unless you are running a test on "internet forum users", this survey has no claim to being statistically random. Talk to your professor. Anyone even loosely involved with this field should understand the concept of randomness and how to reach a valid sampling group.
But still, even before you worry about a good sample, you need a good experiment, dont you? The main issue still is telling people it's an experiment (unless that IS the experiment). What can you possibly discover when you tell someone "This is a test. I am a pickle. Do you believe me?"
And your stated purpose involves young vs old "minds"? How do you associate answers here with age? I hate to pick at this, but I've spent years designing experiments in different industries and your method just screams "bad data" to me.
Your right it is bad data. I'm not disagreeing.
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| I told you my evidence, an angel told me. Is that any more different than someone telling something that happened thousands of years ago and now you must live a life of worship? I gave you just as much evidence as you were given as a child, yet you never questioned the evidence and asked for proof.
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I didn't say that you provided no evidence. I said that you would have to provide some believable evidence - even to children. Despite the fact that you think it's just as much evidence as what our parents tell us, the burden of proof rests on YOU because you, a stranger, is saying something that conflicts with what they were taught by someone they trust, their parents. Maybe you're talking about children who do not already have a contrary belief. In that case, I'm sure it would be much easier.
Now, I don't see how you think you provided "just as much evidence" as I was given as a child. Maybe your evidence is just as easy to prove as what I got as a child, but the fact that millions of other people believed the same thing and that written and historical accounts from many different people is definitely a stronger argument than that of one stranger on an Internet forum.
I'm not even saying either one is easier to prove. I'm only saying that your methods of experimentation are flimsy. You don't really seem to be trying very hard. Although if your classes are at all similar to the ones I went through, effort probably won't be the difference between passing and failing an assignment.
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