I see sticky's for PS3 and Xbox360, but not alot of love for Nintendo or specifically the Wii.
I'm definately getting a Wii, and I don't actually know anyone whose choice isn't the Wii.
We've also had a 360 at our schools (game design at uni) "games room" since launch, but the most anyone ever played on that is a bit of Hexic, or whatever it's called. I think even the old Xbox has seen more action.
And as for hitting weakspots to deal massive damage? Well.. it's a bit been there, done that, dont'cha think?
<James007>ALWAYS MENTION THE SOURCE + USE QUOTE TAGS, POST REMOVED</James007>
wtf? why on earth did you just type that speck? point grabbing maybe?
and i agree i am getting a wii, without question
Sergiy, use quote tags if you took that from another place.
And it was quite unmotivated.
I'll be getting a Wii, though it will be quite expensive here in Finland...
seems really cool ide like to get one
10 reasons why the PS3 beats all you nintendo fanboys:
1 Nvidia RSX GPU.
2 Cell CPU with 8 dual-cores
3 Bluetooth
4 Blu-Ray (54 GB storage space)
5 Hard drive
6 wireless controllers with motion sensibilty, ergonomically shaped
7 Memory slots for various types of media
8 Support for 7 controllers
9 Plays all sorts of media (mp3, wav, avi, mpg etc.)
10 It looks tons cooler
I know you people like nintendo, and don't get me wrong, so did I, until the N64 came out, still using cartridges. Zelda was GREAT, Goldeneye was GREAT, perfect dark was GREAT, and hell, even diddy kong racing was fun, but nintendo seems to always aim for children and new playing styles, whereas sony (and microsuck) aim for the mainstream masses of multimedia, and therefore get way better performing consoles.
Anyway, that's my opinion, and your opinions are yours. Nothing I can do about it.
| eLto wrote: |
10 reasons why the PS3 beats all you nintendo fanboys:
1 Nvidia RSX GPU.
2 Cell CPU with 8 dual-cores
3 Bluetooth
4 Blu-Ray (54 GB storage space)
5 Hard drive
6 wireless controllers with motion sensibilty, ergonomically shaped
7 Memory slots for various types of media
8 Support for 7 controllers
9 Plays all sorts of media (mp3, wav, avi, mpg etc.)
10 It looks tons cooler
I know you people like nintendo, and don't get me wrong, so did I, until the N64 came out, still using cartridges. Zelda was GREAT, Goldeneye was GREAT, perfect dark was GREAT, and hell, even diddy kong racing was fun, but nintendo seems to always aim for children and new playing styles, whereas sony (and microsuck) aim for the mainstream masses of multimedia, and therefore get way better performing consoles.
Anyway, that's my opinion, and your opinions are yours. Nothing I can do about it. |
But PS3 is just an upgrade from the PS2, but Wii is something totally different than Game Cube!
PS3 is more powerful, yes, but Wii will win the market, people will buy Wii but not PS3 that much!


| eLto wrote: |
10 reasons why the PS3 beats all you nintendo fanboys:
1 Nvidia RSX GPU.
2 Cell CPU with 8 dual-cores
3 Bluetooth
4 Blu-Ray (54 GB storage space)
5 Hard drive
6 wireless controllers with motion sensibilty, ergonomically shaped
7 Memory slots for various types of media
8 Support for 7 controllers
9 Plays all sorts of media (mp3, wav, avi, mpg etc.)
10 It looks tons cooler
I know you people like nintendo, and don't get me wrong, so did I, until the N64 came out, still using cartridges. Zelda was GREAT, Goldeneye was GREAT, perfect dark was GREAT, and hell, even diddy kong racing was fun, but nintendo seems to always aim for children and new playing styles, whereas sony (and microsuck) aim for the mainstream masses of multimedia, and therefore get way better performing consoles.
Anyway, that's my opinion, and your opinions are yours. Nothing I can do about it. |
If I want a powerful machine I buy a good computer, that I can upgrade later.
But if I want an unique and funny console, I buy a Wii.
PS3 just has nice graphics, nothing new actually, just the same old thing.
Wii instead, I mean, look at that thing. Great design, really innovating. They actually came up with something comepletely new, which deserves a lot of credit in my opinion.
You play Nintendo for the gameplay mainly, and not the graphics. Even though they don't look bad at all.
If you want a fast, nice looking console, pick PS3.
If you want nice looking, innovating and lots of gameplay, pick Wii.
I'll definately get a Wii as soon as it comes out, not doubt.
It seems that at time goes on, Microsoft and Sony both seem to be trying to label suped up computers as video game systems sporting their own custom Operating System and controller ports... Games like theirs can be played for similar money on a computer and still have all the functionality of a Computer and not just what someone decided to slap on a console... fun is not about stats... it's about being entertained. As far as I'm concerned the wii shows far more promise of being entertaining then the 360 or ps3...
Also I have played the 360, and it's pretty, but one of the better games, Dead or Alive, is nothing more then an arcade fighter with online support... doesn't matter how 3d, pretty, or more accurate the game and fighting is... it's still a 1 on 1 fighter where newbies button mash and experienced players use memorized button combinations... boring....
sorry for the rant, just can't wait to actually do something new for a change...
| reallyjoel wrote: |
And as for hitting weakspots to deal massive damage? Well.. it's a bit been there, done that, dont'cha think? |
I thought this was a Wii thread, not a PS3 bashing thread.
| Whong wrote: |
But PS3 is just an upgrade from the PS2, but Wii is something totally different than Game Cube!
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So you need "something totally different," otherwise you won't buy it? Could you (if you have a cube + n64) explain to me why you have a gamecube and games that don't use innovative controllers? The gamecube was just an upgrade from the N64. But did you buy it? If you did buy a cube, then you're stating there's no problem buying something that's "just an upgrade" over the previous system.
edit: sorry for the double post... meant to edit the other one
I dont know what console im gonna get. I hear ps3 is like a multimedia, but d'know yet...
| Quote: |
| but nintendo seems to always aim for children and new playing styles |
Oh Sure! That would explain the 10 or so Wii Release Games that are rated 'Mature'
The Specs are for PS3...And dude, they are amazing. Have you seen the Kill Zone 2 Video?
Damn...
lol,
Check out this Video, Wii VS PS3.
Sooooooo Right.
Yet Soo Rong:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDZGYqquSr0
Also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZJw9sbOTsc
^Which is a great Video. LOL.
| Saryon wrote: |
PS3 just has nice graphics, nothing new actually, just the same old thing.
Wii instead, I mean, look at that thing. Great design, really innovating. They actually came up with something comepletely new, which deserves a lot of credit in my opinion.
You play Nintendo for the gameplay mainly, and not the graphics. Even though they don't look bad at all.
If you want a fast, nice looking console, pick PS3.
If you want nice looking, innovating and lots of gameplay, pick Wii.
I'll definately get a Wii as soon as it comes out, not doubt. |
I definitely agree with you Saryon, that's the way things are, PS3 just an upgrade of PS2, Wii much more than an upgrade of GC.
| Kelcey wrote: |
| So you need "something totally different," otherwise you won't buy it? Could you (if you have a cube + n64) explain to me why you have a gamecube and games that don't use innovative controllers? The gamecube was just an upgrade from the N64. But did you buy it? If you did buy a cube, then you're stating there's no problem buying something that's "just an upgrade" over the previous system. |
At that time there was nothing more innovative, but now that there is I wouldn't like to just spend almost 2.5 times more money for only an upgrade. Wii is cheap, but really good still. You of course can buy a PS3, but most here want a Wii, because we need something different and new!
the wii will be the best nintendo system yet. the fact that you can buy every classic nintendo game is awsome. fist thing i do is buy all the zelda games for it. nintendo has always been my favorite video game company. without them we wouldnt know mario or luigi. how could you live without are two favorite plumbers?
| eLto wrote: |
10 reasons why the PS3 beats all you nintendo fanboys:
1 Nvidia RSX GPU.
2 Cell CPU with 8 dual-cores
3 Bluetooth
4 Blu-Ray (54 GB storage space)
5 Hard drive
6 wireless controllers with motion sensibilty, ergonomically shaped
7 Memory slots for various types of media
8 Support for 7 controllers
9 Plays all sorts of media (mp3, wav, avi, mpg etc.)
10 It looks tons cooler
I know you people like nintendo, and don't get me wrong, so did I, until the N64 came out, still using cartridges. Zelda was GREAT, Goldeneye was GREAT, perfect dark was GREAT, and hell, even diddy kong racing was fun, but nintendo seems to always aim for children and new playing styles, whereas sony (and microsuck) aim for the mainstream masses of multimedia, and therefore get way better performing consoles.
Anyway, that's my opinion, and your opinions are yours. Nothing I can do about it. |
Alright, so let's run down the list:
1. Wow, a new nVidia graphics card... okay, I am probably getting one in my new laptop (if HP doesn't fight against me too hard).
2. Cell CPU, impressive indeed. It's a powerful chip, but will it be used to its fullest potential? Perhaps... perhaps not. And if it does, what's keeping the PS3 from total meltdown? More power = More heat. Funny how we don't get a spec of it's cooling system.
3. Bluetooth, okay... I don't care.
4. Blu-Ray, again impressive. This one is actually one of the big ones of the PS3. However, it would've been better if Sony established a firm ground for the Blu-Ray already (like beating the HD-DVD) then have the PS3 serve as a foundation for the Blu-Ray. I really like the Blu-Ray, so I hope Sony doesn't screw it up like it did the UMD... then again I didn't like the UMD or PSP to begin with...
5. Hard drive... my computer has one. Whoopdeedoo...
6. Wireless controller... you basically ripped the Wiimote off... Yes, you did look into the technology after the PS2's Dual Shock 2, but you never executed anything remotely like it until the Wii wowed the crowd with their Wiimote. And taking away the rumble feature? Man, that's low especially since the console costs a lot already. Should've just pulled a Microsoft and throw money at your problems to get the right to keep the rumble feature.
7. Memory slots for various types of media? Like what? I am a gamer and I only need to get what I need for gaming. I don't need a 12-in-1 media card reader or whatever the hell the PS3 has in it. Flash drive, okay, that's understandable, USB, obviously. Other crap, that's just more reason to take money from me.
8. Support for 7 controllers. Umm... what just happened here? How did we get from 8 to 7? I guess in Sony's perspective it's pretty good since they only offered 2 controller ports to begin with on their older consoles (something which I hated, but man I still love that original PS).
9. I can care less. How am I on this forum? I have a COMPUTER! That's how! I can play all those media. And they're basically the same type of media, they've audio/video files. Get a grip and don't make it look like it's more than it is.
10. Yes... I have to agree the George Foreman-grill look is quite stylish... well I don't like it, but I'm sure some people do.
Shooters will be alot of fun on the Wii, especially when they design a controller shaped like a Thompson or something (although I really doubt Nintendo would do something like that). However, I had bad expiriences(?) with Nintendo, so I won't get one.
I'd personally like both. If I had a good TV, I'd love to use a ps3 to play blu-rays. Not really a factor.
I'll be a wii because I missed out on the gc and I'm looking forward to playing some of the titles like Metroid, Zelda, Mario, and SSB. Nintendo always has great titles for their flagship series, and I missed a bunch--I'm really looking forward to it. Besides, I'm definitely not going to put up the cash for the ps3 until the price goes down. Way too much money. Wii has a decent pricetag.
The Wii is "simply an upgrade" of the GC aswell, except it has the "wiimote". So that's what you call it now. infact, compared to a PS3, the wii isn't even a good upgrade. the hardware specs aren't even close to even the 360!
| eLto wrote: |
| The Wii is "simply an upgrade" of the GC aswell, except it has the "wiimote". So that's what you call it now. infact, compared to a PS3, the wii isn't even a good upgrade. the hardware specs aren't even close to even the 360! |
Dude, have you even been reading this thread or the Wii Website!
Interactive gaming system! Move the controller to the right to make the character move to the right!
And Who the Hell even cares if it has Dual Core WhoopDeeCrap, I dont care what the GFX looks like! I just use it to play Games, and have a good time!
And, as a developer, Developers LOVE the Wii, you see, Console Companys have this thing to make Games work on their consoles.
The PS3 Consoles Program costs $20000
The Wii: $1000
A few things i have herd from a couple of computer engineers suggests that the the PS3's extreme power is not for all the gaming power but to power to the blu ray technology.
Now I'm not a huge expert in this subject so I'm pretty much just the messenger but i look at the the graphics comparison between the xbox360 and PS3 and i dont feel that PS3 blows Xbox360 out of the water. 
The console is new to me, not too popular on our country.
Wii will come soon and so interesting. 
| LostOverThere wrote: |
Dude, have you even been reading this thread or the Wii Website!
Interactive gaming system! Move the controller to the right to make the character move to the right! |
So does the ps3's "SixAxis"(the new controller), so what's your point? That's just a hardware UPDATE.
| Firebolt wrote: |
| A few things i have herd from a couple of computer engineers suggests that the the PS3's extreme power is not for all the gaming power but to power to the blu ray technology. |
Uhm, to answer this very logically; does a computer need higher level hardware to run a DVD-Rom? no. The so-called "Blu-ray technology" is just a disc reader in the system that simply reads blu-ray discs, amongst various other things.
So in other words; the might of the ps3 does not need to power the blu-ray rom.
| eLto wrote: |
| The Wii is "simply an upgrade" of the GC aswell, except it has the "wiimote". So that's what you call it now. infact, compared to a PS3, the wii isn't even a good upgrade. the hardware specs aren't even close to even the 360! |
Hardware specs aren't the only thing that matter. What good is great hardware if the games are lousy. Super Mario Bros 1, 3, Super Mario 64, The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time didn't have very good graphics and the music was midi in Mario 64 and Zelda. Graphically they look very bad now, but they were the best sellers of their time and are still played with a really happy mind. They are great though they don't have such great graphics.
People now a days care only for the specs and graphics, not for the games. A good game is a game which you enjoy playing and want to play it as soon as you can. The quality of games are becoming bad because we only care about the power and ablities of the consoles and not the actual games!
| Firebolt wrote: |
A few things i have herd from a couple of computer engineers suggests that the the PS3's extreme power is not for all the gaming power but to power to the blu ray technology.
Now I'm not a huge expert in this subject so I'm pretty much just the messenger but i look at the the graphics comparison between the xbox360 and PS3 and i dont feel that PS3 blows Xbox360 out of the water.  |
Well there's a simple answer for that, when you compare the graphics side by side, you will not be able to see a difference (unless you're a Gfx dweeb) as there is a limit to nowadays graphics. Remember when Final Fantasy VII's graphics was all cool? And then Square Enix proved it could do better with the hardware in the Playstation with Final Fantasy VIII and IX? It just means though they look the same now, the 360's limit will be reached first before the PS3's. I do admit though, I don't care about graphics too much, I care more about gameplay. Thus I'm hoping Square Enix brings some real Final Fantasy games to the Wii. Yes... I do know Sony holds a lot of stock in Square Enix, but so does Nintendo.
| eLto wrote: |
| LostOverThere wrote: | Dude, have you even been reading this thread or the Wii Website!
Interactive gaming system! Move the controller to the right to make the character move to the right! |
So does the ps3's "SixAxis"(the new controller), so what's your point? That's just a hardware UPDATE.
| Firebolt wrote: | | A few things i have herd from a couple of computer engineers suggests that the the PS3's extreme power is not for all the gaming power but to power to the blu ray technology. |
Uhm, to answer this very logically; does a computer need higher level hardware to run a DVD-Rom? no. The so-called "Blu-ray technology" is just a disc reader in the system that simply reads blu-ray discs, amongst various other things.
So in other words; the might of the ps3 does not need to power the blu-ray rom. |
Yes this six-axis rip-off is great... I mean the six-axis controller is nice... eh... whatever. The point is in terms of it being able to sense motion, it is quite inferior to the Wii's remote. This is not debatable, and if you want to debate it, you already said you're a Sony fanboy and debating with you about it would be meaningless.
Well you might be right about the Blu-ray thing. However have you thought about it? The Blu-ray is a new piece of equipment. And the reason DVD-rom don't need "higher level hardware" is because it is built-in the DVD-rom itself. Surprised? Check your computer, you can take out the DVD-rom and it will be in a rectangular box that has hardware in it. Amazing, I know. And can Pentium 1 computers use DVD-rom? No, huh? I guess that means higher-level hardware is needed to power certain things like DVD-roms or Blu-ray readers. Of course, I could just be totally wrong. I do that sometimes.
Funny you should say that, and you do seem to prove a point, exept, I've seen a DVD rom actually functioning on a pentium 1. The only problem with that was that the pentium 1 was too old to run Win98, which had all the necessary drivers.
I also know debating is pointless, since I'm a sony fanboy, but I'm not as partial as you might think. I've played my share of nintendo games. Mario? all of them, except spin-offs like paper mario and mario tennis. Zelda? I actually bought a gamecube 3 years ago just so I could play Windwaker and Ocarina of time again. I sold it when I was done with them, but I'm just proving that I'm also open for nintendo. What I want to prove to you guys(which some of you are a bit too persistent to realize) is that the possibilites on the ps3 is better than eny of the other two next gen consoles. The Wii will never measure up to the ps3 graphic-wise, and the 360 will never be as fun as the wii, since it has no hardware extras like the ps3 and wii.
I'm not THAT partial to sony, but the 360 is definetily the worst of the three next-gen consoles, but wii is the lesser in power. That's all I'm trying to tell you, and all I'm trying to prove.
Can you admit I'm right now? 
Well i have noticed that everyone seems to ignore the Wii, like in a gaming mag they reviewed the 360 the PS3 but not the Wii, guess games that have gameplay instead of great graphics are rare and unpopular now...
i noticed you used ps3 motion sensor and ergonomic design controller.
1, its a rip of the Wii
2, the wii is based on a freakin TV remote, whats more ergonomic thant that?
dumbass
| eLto wrote: |
Funny you should say that, and you do seem to prove a point, exept, I've seen a DVD rom actually functioning on a pentium 1. The only problem with that was that the pentium 1 was too old to run Win98, which had all the necessary drivers.
I also know debating is pointless, since I'm a sony fanboy, but I'm not as partial as you might think. I've played my share of nintendo games. Mario? all of them, except spin-offs like paper mario and mario tennis. Zelda? I actually bought a gamecube 3 years ago just so I could play Windwaker and Ocarina of time again. I sold it when I was done with them, but I'm just proving that I'm also open for nintendo. What I want to prove to you guys(which some of you are a bit too persistent to realize) is that the possibilites on the ps3 is better than eny of the other two next gen consoles. The Wii will never measure up to the ps3 graphic-wise, and the 360 will never be as fun as the wii, since it has no hardware extras like the ps3 and wii.
I'm not THAT partial to sony, but the 360 is definetily the worst of the three next-gen consoles, but wii is the lesser in power. That's all I'm trying to tell you, and all I'm trying to prove.
Can you admit I'm right now?  |
Hey, I've never ever said that the Wii can compete with the PS3 graphics-wise. I'm not a fanboy of any one console, but it's too easy when people want to compare pure graphics as I believe it is the gameplay that is important, not the graphics. Yes, it's a nice bonus and yes there must be a standard for graphics, but unless Nintendo has reverted to pure 2-D 32-bit graphics, I'm pretty fine with the Wii.
As of now, I still say the 360 and the PS3 are about the same with PS3 having better chances of having a better variety of games. However Halo 3 must be noted and Bill Gates threw money at former Final Fantasy series developer to receive Blue Dragon.
Basically:
Sony has Square Enix (via saving them from The Spirits Within) and hot games like Metal Gear Solid 4 with the power and graphics to back it up.
Microsoft has money to throw at people to get companies on their side (Rare first, now getting Blue Dragon) with power and nice graphics.
Nintendo has innovation and fanfavorite games (Zelda, Mario, Super Smash Bros.) with the ability not to overheat and cause a total meltdown.
Still skeptical about the PS3's cooling system.
| Whong wrote: |
| Kelcey wrote: | | So you need "something totally different," otherwise you won't buy it? Could you (if you have a cube + n64) explain to me why you have a gamecube and games that don't use innovative controllers? The gamecube was just an upgrade from the N64. But did you buy it? If you did buy a cube, then you're stating there's no problem buying something that's "just an upgrade" over the previous system. |
At that time there was nothing more innovative, but now that there is I wouldn't like to just spend almost 2.5 times more money for only an upgrade. Wii is cheap, but really good still. You of course can buy a PS3, but most here want a Wii, because we need something different and new! |
So are you saying if Sony released a Wii back when the cube was around, you wouldn't have purchased a gamecube knowing that Zelda, Metroid, Mario, and Starfox would be on it?
| QrafTee wrote: |
Alright, so let's run down the list:
2. Cell CPU, impressive indeed. It's a powerful chip, but will it be used to its fullest potential? Perhaps... perhaps not. And if it does, what's keeping the PS3 from total meltdown? More power = More heat. Funny how we don't get a spec of it's cooling system.
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Yeah Sony is dumb as heck, but I'd say it's a pretty safe bet that developers will be able to use all of the Cell's power.
| QrafTee wrote: |
3. Bluetooth, okay... I don't care.
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Me neither.
| QrafTee wrote: |
4. Blu-Ray, again impressive. This one is actually one of the big ones of the PS3. However, it would've been better if Sony established a firm ground for the Blu-Ray already (like beating the HD-DVD) then have the PS3 serve as a foundation for the Blu-Ray. I really like the Blu-Ray, so I hope Sony doesn't screw it up like it did the UMD... then again I didn't like the UMD or PSP to begin with...
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Hopefully for those that get a PS3, blu-ray doesn't die. However, if it does, it's still there for storage (don't wanna argue about that). Whether or not that is gonna be important is YET to be seen.
| QrafTee wrote: |
5. Hard drive... my computer has one. Whoopdeedoo...
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I personally love the hard drive. Use it for caching to make games load faster. Not have to worry about a bloody memory card and I can save games all I want without having to worry. As far as content goes... storing demos so I can test out the games is great. I don't care for trailers and what not though. In my opinion, MS did a great thing introducing hard drives to consoles.
| QrafTee wrote: |
7. Memory slots for various types of media? Like what? I am a gamer and I only need to get what I need for gaming. I don't need a 12-in-1 media card reader or whatever the hell the PS3 has in it. Flash drive, okay, that's understandable, USB, obviously. Other crap, that's just more reason to take money from me.
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Yup, don't like the memory slots either.
| QrafTee wrote: |
9. I can care less. How am I on this forum? I have a COMPUTER! That's how! I can play all those media. And they're basically the same type of media, they've audio/video files. Get a grip and don't make it look like it's more than it is.
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Same here, don't care about media other than demos (so I can test the game out before I buy it.)
| eLto wrote: |
Funny you should say that, and you do seem to prove a point, exept, I've seen a DVD rom actually functioning on a pentium 1. The only problem with that was that the pentium 1 was too old to run Win98, which had all the necessary drivers.
I also know debating is pointless, since I'm a sony fanboy, but I'm not as partial as you might think. I've played my share of nintendo games. Mario? all of them, except spin-offs like paper mario and mario tennis. Zelda? I actually bought a gamecube 3 years ago just so I could play Windwaker and Ocarina of time again. I sold it when I was done with them, but I'm just proving that I'm also open for nintendo. What I want to prove to you guys(which some of you are a bit too persistent to realize) is that the possibilites on the ps3 is better than eny of the other two next gen consoles. The Wii will never measure up to the ps3 graphic-wise, and the 360 will never be as fun as the wii, since it has no hardware extras like the ps3 and wii.
I'm not THAT partial to sony, but the 360 is definetily the worst of the three next-gen consoles, but wii is the lesser in power. That's all I'm trying to tell you, and all I'm trying to prove.
Can you admit I'm right now?  |
Well it's all about the games and NOT the hardware. For the Nintendo fans, that includes the Wiimote. Just because the PS3 is a power monster DOESN'T mean we're gonna get amazing looking games sprinkling down upon us 24/7. There are plenty of sub par ps3 games out there already. As far as the Wii is concerned, don't think that every game is instantly the funnest game you've ever played just because of the controller. Nothing is given in this generation so debating about the hardware doesn't tell anyone which system is "better." A system is better for an individual based on what the individual likes. You could have the PS3 power + Wii controller with Final Fantasy/Mario/Zelda/GTA and every other franchise out there. But if the person likes Halo and hates all the other franchises, why should that person bother with that type of system if what HE/SHE likes is on a different system?
Well I'm a Nintendo fan and will most probably never buy anything else.
The hardware on the Wii is enough for me, since I don't really care about the graphics.
Nintendo Wii is coming soon!
Virtual Console is what sells the Wii to me. Of course I would've bought one because of the price, the plethora of awesome multiplayer games, and the newness of it just because I have to have everything new, but add all of that to SNES, NES, Genesis, etc games? Psh. I'm there.
| evanc88 wrote: |
| Virtual Console is what sells the Wii to me. Of course I would've bought one because of the price, the plethora of awesome multiplayer games, and the newness of it just because I have to have everything new, but add all of that to SNES, NES, Genesis, etc games? Psh. I'm there. |
Yep, those points make Wii an excellent console and that that it is so cheap!
PS3 and Xbox 360 are great consoles too, but the price is a thing that makes them not so easily buyable! 
Wii
I have some information.
WII Console will be sold in UK at £180.
"So committed is it to not entering to a specs battle with Sony and Microsoft that Nintendo will simply not reveal the exact nature of the technology sitting beneath Wii's refined off-white exterior, stating only that CPU, codenamed 'Broadway', is a PowerPC-based unit 'Joint-Engineered' with IBM, and that the GPU is an Ati-Designed solution.
It is keen, however, to play up the platform's 512MB of internal flash memory, used for Virtual Console downloads, etc. Additional memory can be added by simply using SD cards, although Nintendo has yet to confirm whether Wii will be compatible with the SD-HC (High Capacity) format, which currently tops out at 8GB. Regardless, 2GB SD cards at around £40 each will surely prove popular options.
Externally, the Wii hardware features a standard Ninteno-style AV-out port, running to component (supporting up to 480p), composite or S-video; two standard USB 2.0 ports; an SD flash memory card slot; two GameCube memory card slots; and four GameCube controller ports (also compatible with WaveBird controllers). The facisa, meanwhile, features three buttons (Power, Reset, Eject) and a flap, which covers the SD card, memory card and joypad ports (the USB 2.0 ports are situaed at the console's rear).
In terms of connectivity, the Wii console will communicate via Wi-Fi to DS units (for downloading game demos and other content, and possibly for messaging in the future), and can be routed to internet via a USB 2.0 LAN adapter if a Wi-Fi network is unavailable.
Standing just 157mm wide, 215.4mm tall and 44mm thick, Wii is small enough to fit into even the most cluttered AV setups, although it gains stature when placed in its stand, which comes packed into every box. The slightly ghostly blue which emanates from its disc slot, meanwhile, ensures it a vibe unlike any other game console's.
Remote
(One packed in; Additional Unit: £30)
The primary method of Wii input links to the console via a Bluetooth connection with the sensor bar, and can be used at a range of up to ten metres (effective for five metres with applications that use pointing inputs), with up to four in use simulaneously. User preferences, including Wii Mii avatars, can be saved to 6KB of onboard memory. Power is supplied via two AA batteries, and although Nintendo estimates 60 hours' use in simple accelerometer-based games, this will drop significantly with more intensive applications and when used in conjunction with the Nunchuk add-on. The unit's underside features a trigger-style 'B' button and also a 'sync' button, serving to tie multiple controller inputs to their respective players. The Remot also features built-in rumble and a small onboard speaker.
Nunchuk
(One packed in; Additional Unit: £15)
Connecting to the Remote via a short cable (it cannot be used solely on its own), the Nunchuk also features accelerometer technology or motion-based input. Of more obvious use is its analogue joystick, whose design is modelled on Nintendo's GameCube controller template. The Nunchuk's underside features two buttons, 'C' and 'Z', the latter fashioned in a more obvious trigger shape than the Remote's 'B' button.
Because it does not require batteries, the Nunchuk feels unusually light in operation, although the inclusion of a rumble facility ensures that it has a tactile quality.
Classic Controller
(£15)
Available seperately at launch, the Classic Controller is essentially a hybrid of Nintendo's SNES and GameCube joypads - Whichit has to be, since it is intended as a catch-all device for Virtual Console NES, SNES, N64, Mega Drive and Turbo Grafx games (and, concievably, independently produced releases). Smaller than you'd expect (at 65.7mm x 135.7mm x 26mm), along with 'X', 'Y', 'A' and 'B' face buttons it features 'L' and 'R' shoulder buttons, plus 'Z1' and 'Z2'. Between these, a further button opens slots on the joypad's rear, although the purpose of these apertures remains unclear at the time of writing. Like the Nunchuk, the Classic Controller must be connected to a Remote via a cable.
Sensor Bar
Placed on or around your television (either above or below the screen - it can be placed in its own cradle), the sensor bar handles Remote input via a reciever at each end. Approximately 200mm wide, it is unobtrusive, and styled to look as innocuous as possible. At the heart of the Wii experience, its reliability in tests is proven, although it is reported to be sensitive to strong halogen lights situated either directly above or below, which can interfere with its performance.
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I took a whole section of a certain part of the magazine, this is ACCURATE information. I hope this information helps you decides if you want to get it or not.
Don't ask me questions...
you people keep answering my questions with more questions. I admit that the wii probably will be funny, if you like it. All I want, is for one of you damned nintendo fanboys to ADMIT that the nintendo will be the lesser console, as opposed to what GameCube was/is. The gamecube is infact better than the ps2, graphics wise.
so all I want is a yes from one of you guys.
well, ill wait to see if its something for me if the local stores here gets it as a demo, i really like the idea of the new control, sounds really really cool, but i can imagine a long row of people standing infront of the test monitor with it connected, flapping their hands round like idiots 
Really waiting for Wii. Have seen some screen shot of Zelda game and it looks really good. The most interesting is if wii will be a success is what gone happened next generation if xbox and ps will get gyro controlls. That's will be cool
It seems that at time goes on, Microsoft and Sony both seem to be trying to label suped up computers as video game systems sporting their own custom Operating System and controller ports... Games like theirs can be played for similar money on a computer and still have all the functionality of a Computer and not just what someone decided to slap on a console...
Everyone else is always playing catchup when it comes to controller design. Supeer Nintedo came out with 6 buttons, Genesis followed suit. N64 came out with the analog stick. Playstation copies it. And Now the WII controller is being copied again now by ps3. Innovative designs, which I stick with my nintendo systems.
i cant wait until the wii's launch... a couple of weeks 
| enygmasoft wrote: |
| Everyone else is always playing catchup when it comes to controller design. Supeer Nintedo came out with 6 buttons, Genesis followed suit. N64 came out with the analog stick. Playstation copies it. And Now the WII controller is being copied again now by ps3. Innovative designs, which I stick with my nintendo systems. |
Well this is how it goes: Nintendo copied Atari, but Atari went further ahead of its time and died.
This is how Nintendo thinks, "What can we do to make gaming better, but not make it so improbable to use as a gaming controller?"
This is why they slowly worked in shoulder buttons. Then rumble feature, then wireless, and then finally motion sensor.
Now they aren't the first people who've tried these things, but they've been the most successful in making it work and making people want it, anyone can argue this, but then they'd be wrong fanboys.
What's next? A Nintendo controller with fans? It's been done, but it isn't popular. I doubt it though because Nintendo works to try to make gaming feel better rather than things like fans, then again Nintendo is as predictable as a boy hitting puberty.
| enygmasoft wrote: |
| Everyone else is always playing catchup when it comes to controller design. Supeer Nintedo came out with 6 buttons, Genesis followed suit. N64 came out with the analog stick. Playstation copies it. And Now the WII controller is being copied again now by ps3. Innovative designs, which I stick with my nintendo systems. |
Sony didn't just copy the analog stick and rumble, they made them better.
Who came up with the idea of TWO analog sticks? Sony, and they also made the rumble implimented into controllers so you didn't have to buy loads of batteries.
That's true, the analog stick on the N64 controllers got broken pretty fast. My PSOne controllers still work, and they're 8 years old.
lol^ u right about the control , but i like the feature of download old nes games i want double dragon 2 and mario 3
yes- i have pre orderd my Wii
no- i will not be seen for about a week after i get it
yes- i will buy a mini lava lamp to plug into one of its usb ports
| eLto wrote: |
| That's true, the analog stick on the N64 controllers got broken pretty fast. My PSOne controllers still work, and they're 8 years old. |
My N64 controlers analog stick work very well even now and it is 9 years old!


And GameCube controlers too, and they are 4-5 years old!
like eric cartman on south park 10x12 episode... i really want it! i'm a big nintendo fan since 18years ago... and a new nintendo hardware is for me always a big event!
| sfauzia wrote: |
| like eric cartman on south park 10x12 episode... i really want it! i'm a big nintendo fan since 18years ago... and a new nintendo hardware is for me always a big event! |
haha, cartman... him and butters make the show. that episode was crazy though, i can't believe they were allowed to show some of that stuff!
my opinion on this whole PS3 vs XBOX 360 vs Wii is that the PS3 is pretty much worthless, xbox will come out top, and the wii will do decently. The PS3 costs too much because it includes unnecessary stuff and it isn't upgradable. The xbox is for the people who love FPS and action games, while the wii is action, rpg, and adventure. The ps3 doesn't seem to have like any good games for it, or they are already on a different console.
I have preorded my Wii, and I am looking forward to getting it in a month's time. What i just can't understand is why people get so frustrated arguing about which console is best. Surely it doesn't matter, because they are all great? I think each console has it's own strong point; Xbox360 > Graphics and range of games, PS3 > Blu Ray and excellent graphics, Wii > Interactivity, fun, the ability to get involved with the game.
I also think that Nintendo are doing their best to stand out from the crowd as the gaming company that is most interested in the experience that gamers get when playing on their consoles. The Nintendo DS had the Touch Generations games, which were targetted at people who had never ever played on consoles. The DS itself was meant to bring more interactivity (however limited it may have been) to gaming. All in all, Nintendo are looking at how gamers can get really involved, and I truly think they have broken a barrier with the Wii. I can't wait to get mine!
I can't wait for the Wii! That and the DS will combine to make a great generation of gaming. I have already purchased a 360 for my powerhouse, so now I will sit back and enjoy the games both companies throw at me. I am jumping off the Sony bandwagon, at least for a little while. What Sony just did disgusts me. If you haven't read, go to www.lik-sang.com. I don't know if any of you ever purchased something from this site, but they were great. It was a sad thing to see them go.
| eLto wrote: |
you people keep answering my questions with more questions. I admit that the wii probably will be funny, if you like it. All I want, is for one of you damned nintendo fanboys to ADMIT that the nintendo will be the lesser console, as opposed to what GameCube was/is. The gamecube is infact better than the ps2, graphics wise.
so all I want is a yes from one of you guys. |
The Gamecube is in fact better than the PS2, graphics-wise. Then why did the PS2 far outsell the Gamecube? You are saying that a console's success is based on its graphical power. Incorrect. The PS2 beat the Gamecube, yet its graphics were less powerful than the Gamecube's.
The Wii will certainly not be the lesser console. Third-party support is overwhelming it seems. Square Enix is in fact making games for Nintendo again: new Final on both the Wii and DS, among other things. Perhaps you should watch this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Wzmf0ChL24
There. The PS3 has only 4 controller ports, just like the Wii. And the Gamecube. And the XBox. Get your facts right.
"No gimmicks"? What about this?
http://digitalbattle.com/2006/05/09/e3-sony-steals-from-nintendo/
Oh, and back to the lies, let's see this:
"There is no change in our original plan to release the console in spring 2006," - SCE spokesperson Kei Sakaguchi - Feb 2006
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=14821
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=62956
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/01/24/no_sony_ps3_uk_2007/
Whoops.
I'm definently looking towards the Wii.
It's cheap and innovative and is backed by tons of 3rd party support(what the GC lacked) and has online support(GC also lacked).
Personally the PS3 is "OK". I don't care about Bluray or about the most impressive graphics. I care more about the style of the graphics. For example take WoW and compare it to EQ2. EQ2 dominates it in polygon rates but WoW just has this neat atmosphere and style that draws you in.
Graphics don't mean anything. All that matters is the quality of the games. The Wii allows for a new quality of games. That doesn't always mean better, but there are many games that damn will be better. I can't wait for a neat star wars game for the Wii.
i will buy a Wii coz i just cant afford PS3
Nintendo is always first in realizing what the gaming market needs. for one thing, when was the last time a game was innovative, not for graphics, but for gameplay. I can say I had more fun playing galaxian, than I did playing halo. There is major push for developers to create purely icing on the cake experieces. Video games are the new hollywood. Very few games now are inovative gameplay wise. The core no longer matters, for big developers. I'm not about to pretend that the N64 would not have been better served by ad CD-ROM, but the takes massive leaps for Nintendo, because they finally realized us old timers need to be able to keep our collection of game cube games. As terms of hardware specs, it is on the lower rung of the graphics gene pool, but it has enough features to make it a good competitor, regardless.
Definently will be getting a Wii, my first console since my N64 and Ps1. It's just something new and out there. Thats what I like about it! It isn't the same old thing that makes games slightly better. It's fresh, new, and innovative.
| enygmasoft wrote: |
| Nintendo is always first in realizing what the gaming market needs. for one thing, when was the last time a game was innovative, not for graphics, but for gameplay. I can say I had more fun playing galaxian, than I did playing halo. There is major push for developers to create purely icing on the cake experieces. Video games are the new hollywood. Very few games now are inovative gameplay wise. The core no longer matters, for big developers. I'm not about to pretend that the N64 would not have been better served by ad CD-ROM, but the takes massive leaps for Nintendo, because they finally realized us old timers need to be able to keep our collection of game cube games. As terms of hardware specs, it is on the lower rung of the graphics gene pool, but it has enough features to make it a good competitor, regardless. |
Yes Nintendo knows exactly how to get new gamers interested. Wii is an ideal console for everyone because it is made for everyone! It isn't for kids just, everyone can enjoy it. WiiConnect24 is a great feature, just imagine playing Super Smash Bros Brawl online, how cool is that! It is a really cool thing and the connectivity between Wii and DS is also a great thing.
And Wii doesn't cost much, which gives it the advantage in the market!


Want something different? Choose Wii!

| Whong wrote: |
| enygmasoft wrote: | | Nintendo is always first in realizing what the gaming market needs. for one thing, when was the last time a game was innovative, not for graphics, but for gameplay. I can say I had more fun playing galaxian, than I did playing halo. There is major push for developers to create purely icing on the cake experieces. Video games are the new hollywood. Very few games now are inovative gameplay wise. The core no longer matters, for big developers. I'm not about to pretend that the N64 would not have been better served by ad CD-ROM, but the takes massive leaps for Nintendo, because they finally realized us old timers need to be able to keep our collection of game cube games. As terms of hardware specs, it is on the lower rung of the graphics gene pool, but it has enough features to make it a good competitor, regardless. |
Yes Nintendo knows exactly how to get new gamers interested. Wii is an ideal console for everyone because it is made for everyone! It isn't for kids just, everyone can enjoy it. WiiConnect24 is a great feature, just imagine playing Super Smash Bros Brawl online, how cool is that! It is a really cool thing and the connectivity between Wii and DS is also a great thing.
And Wii doesn't cost much, which gives it the advantage in the market!  
Want something different? Choose Wii!  |
You know what I am surprised about though? Although it's cool and everything. It says it's for everyone, why haven't they cranked up the advertisements? I mean I saw the PS3 ads on TV and they sucked, but at least they have ads telling everyone "Here I come." Nintendo seriously needs to get the word out, since you know it's a Wii.
| QrafTee wrote: |
| Whong wrote: | | enygmasoft wrote: | | Nintendo is always first in realizing what the gaming market needs. for one thing, when was the last time a game was innovative, not for graphics, but for gameplay. I can say I had more fun playing galaxian, than I did playing halo. There is major push for developers to create purely icing on the cake experieces. Video games are the new hollywood. Very few games now are inovative gameplay wise. The core no longer matters, for big developers. I'm not about to pretend that the N64 would not have been better served by ad CD-ROM, but the takes massive leaps for Nintendo, because they finally realized us old timers need to be able to keep our collection of game cube games. As terms of hardware specs, it is on the lower rung of the graphics gene pool, but it has enough features to make it a good competitor, regardless. |
Yes Nintendo knows exactly how to get new gamers interested. Wii is an ideal console for everyone because it is made for everyone! It isn't for kids just, everyone can enjoy it. WiiConnect24 is a great feature, just imagine playing Super Smash Bros Brawl online, how cool is that! It is a really cool thing and the connectivity between Wii and DS is also a great thing.
And Wii doesn't cost much, which gives it the advantage in the market!  
Want something different? Choose Wii!  |
You know what I am surprised about though? Although it's cool and everything. It says it's for everyone, why haven't they cranked up the advertisements? I mean I saw the PS3 ads on TV and they sucked, but at least they have ads telling everyone "Here I come." Nintendo seriously needs to get the word out, since you know it's a Wii. |
I agree. Nintendo has the potential to emerge as the big winner in the 7th generation of consoles. But they really need to work on their advertisements. The content they have on their website is great. They should put up advertisements with the same content. That would really help out their sales. I've seen a lot of DS commercials, and they've helped Nintendo out significantly. Though, I actually haven't seen any PS3 commercials, either. I know there are PS3 commercials, I've just never seen them.
The Wii is definitely the most revolutionary of the latest consoles in terms of user interactiveness. I think it will be a huge hit, and the beginning of a better gaming experience! This will definitely put Nintendo back on the map in the world of gaming. Now all they need are better game titles to match the potentials of the Wii console.
| william wrote: |
| QrafTee wrote: |
You know what I am surprised about though? Although it's cool and everything. It says it's for everyone, why haven't they cranked up the advertisements? I mean I saw the PS3 ads on TV and they sucked, but at least they have ads telling everyone "Here I come." Nintendo seriously needs to get the word out, since you know it's a Wii. |
I agree. Nintendo has the potential to emerge as the big winner in the 7th generation of consoles. But they really need to work on their advertisements. The content they have on their website is great. They should put up advertisements with the same content. That would really help out their sales. I've seen a lot of DS commercials, and they've helped Nintendo out significantly. Though, I actually haven't seen any PS3 commercials, either. I know there are PS3 commercials, I've just never seen them. |
They are weird commercials, the PS3 ones. One features one of those colored puzzle cubes which floats in the air and solves itself. Suddenly, it explodes and covers the wall with colors. The other one features a baby doll facing a PS3 and then it starts to float, show emotions, and then cry. Yeah... I don't get any of that at all.
| QrafTee wrote: |
| william wrote: | | QrafTee wrote: |
You know what I am surprised about though? Although it's cool and everything. It says it's for everyone, why haven't they cranked up the advertisements? I mean I saw the PS3 ads on TV and they sucked, but at least they have ads telling everyone "Here I come." Nintendo seriously needs to get the word out, since you know it's a Wii. |
I agree. Nintendo has the potential to emerge as the big winner in the 7th generation of consoles. But they really need to work on their advertisements. The content they have on their website is great. They should put up advertisements with the same content. That would really help out their sales. I've seen a lot of DS commercials, and they've helped Nintendo out significantly. Though, I actually haven't seen any PS3 commercials, either. I know there are PS3 commercials, I've just never seen them. |
They are weird commercials, the PS3 ones. One features one of those colored puzzle cubes which floats in the air and solves itself. Suddenly, it explodes and covers the wall with colors. The other one features a baby doll facing a PS3 and then it starts to float, show emotions, and then cry. Yeah... I don't get any of that at all. |
The rubik's cube one was to show the "power" of the Cell. Solving the Rubik's cube for a processor could take a bit of time... but the Cell did it fast (in the commercial).
The baby one... I'm with you, I have no clue. Personally I think the rubik's cube one was pretty cool. The rest have sucked, haha.
| Kelcey wrote: |
| QrafTee wrote: | | william wrote: | | QrafTee wrote: |
You know what I am surprised about though? Although it's cool and everything. It says it's for everyone, why haven't they cranked up the advertisements? I mean I saw the PS3 ads on TV and they sucked, but at least they have ads telling everyone "Here I come." Nintendo seriously needs to get the word out, since you know it's a Wii. |
I agree. Nintendo has the potential to emerge as the big winner in the 7th generation of consoles. But they really need to work on their advertisements. The content they have on their website is great. They should put up advertisements with the same content. That would really help out their sales. I've seen a lot of DS commercials, and they've helped Nintendo out significantly. Though, I actually haven't seen any PS3 commercials, either. I know there are PS3 commercials, I've just never seen them. |
They are weird commercials, the PS3 ones. One features one of those colored puzzle cubes which floats in the air and solves itself. Suddenly, it explodes and covers the wall with colors. The other one features a baby doll facing a PS3 and then it starts to float, show emotions, and then cry. Yeah... I don't get any of that at all. |
The rubik's cube one was to show the "power" of the Cell. Solving the Rubik's cube for a processor could take a bit of time... but the Cell did it fast (in the commercial).
The baby one... I'm with you, I have no clue. Personally I think the rubik's cube one was pretty cool. The rest have sucked, haha. |
Shouldn't this be about Wii and not PS3?

The main problems is that one might get a little tired in the arm... otherwise the Wii is definatly the most promising console this generation man cant wait for the new Zelda, and im not a Nintendo fanboy I never owned a gamecube however just the taught of the before-parties with alchol and a Wii gives me a hardon lol ^^
| madcaps wrote: |
| The main problems is that one might get a little tired in the arm... otherwise the Wii is definatly the most promising console this generation man cant wait for the new Zelda, and im not a Nintendo fanboy I never owned a gamecube however just the taught of the before-parties with alchol and a Wii gives me a hardon lol ^^ |
Well if one gets tired in the arm we will know one thing, the players will be burning more calories, that must make the Democrats and California's Governator very happy y'know because of the obesity thing going on. I think one who plays the Wii enough will be conditioned, so it's fine, that's probably why they include Wii Sports in every bundle with the exception of Japan (no obesity there guys).
Good lord, I can't wait for the Wii. It should be pretty awesome. I think I am gong to get Zelda TP and Metal Slug Anthology to start me off. Who knows what I might get for Christmas (That is if I ask for games). I am also interested in Red Steel, Elebits, and Rayman. This holiday season has ALREADY been hard on my wallet, and it is only going to get worse with the Wii launch! Anyone feeling the same?
About Ads, Where I live, Australia, Sony hasnt even started to advertise, but Nintendo has.
The ads are pretty funny, and really get you to know about the Wii.
It's very unfortunate. I'm going to Spain and Italy in June and because of that I don't think I'm going to be able to pick up a Wii. I was looking forward to playing Metal Slug Anthology, Rayman, Wii Sports and World Series of Poker. The thing I'm still most excited about, however, are the Virtual Console games. I can hardly wait to see what "new" games get released every month. It'll be exciting and nostalgiac, for sure.
Just saw a Wii demo unit at EB Games. It was cool. BTW, the guy at the counter said that preorders of the Wii are WAAAY higher than pre-orders for PS3 or sales for Xbox360. Nintendo for the win!
I'll be purchasing the Wii, with a regular controller, Madden '07, and the online package, and I'll be set.
I'll never pay 300.00+ for a console.
| Studio Madcrow wrote: |
| Just saw a Wii demo unit at EB Games. It was cool. BTW, the guy at the counter said that preorders of the Wii are WAAAY higher than pre-orders for PS3 or sales for Xbox360. Nintendo for the win! |
Uhh... dude, I hate to tell you this, but of course the Wii pre-orders are more than the PS3 pre-orders, Nintendo has around 4 million units or so and Sony has around 400,000 - 1 million units. (Around 1 million by the end of the year) This is worldwide of course.
Don't test my belief. If I want to believe that Nintendo will pwn Sony and M$ in the console wars let me believe it. At least for now anyway...
| QrafTee wrote: |
| madcaps wrote: | | The main problems is that one might get a little tired in the arm... otherwise the Wii is definatly the most promising console this generation man cant wait for the new Zelda, and im not a Nintendo fanboy I never owned a gamecube however just the taught of the before-parties with alchol and a Wii gives me a hardon lol ^^ |
Well if one gets tired in the arm we will know one thing, the players will be burning more calories, that must make the Democrats and California's Governator very happy y'know because of the obesity thing going on. I think one who plays the Wii enough will be conditioned, so it's fine, that's probably why they include Wii Sports in every bundle with the exception of Japan (no obesity there guys). |
You'll get some exercise while you play, now isn't that just great! It won't be so stressing for the neck and shoulders when you get to actually move your hands a bit!
Soon it is here, just can't wait!
I have heard about the Wii. It's pretty cool that you actully have to move your arms instead of some small buttons.
WII its here soon man i cant w8 im itching allover.... 
For anyone that was able to get a Wii, congrats.
As many other people I'm waiting for later shipments because I'm not that big of a fan to stand in lines.
Anyways, I was wondering, The Wii says that it can connect with Wireless and with a adapter.
My two questions are,
1. when they say wireless does that include 802.1x?
2. If not for 1, then does the adapter come with the base system?
2b. If it doesn't come with the base system, then how much does it cost?
Over all, I think I'm going to get the Wii at some point and make the networking work one way or another but it would be nice to know the answers ahead of time.
-Saber
@Saber
1. Yes, the Wii supports 802.11b/g.
2. The adapter is a USB to Ethernet adaptor. It allows wired internet access. Wireless access (802.11) is built right into the console. I'm not sure how much the adapter costs, but there really is no point to buy it when you have Wi-Fi built in.
@william
Thanks for the information, When reading about it, it didn't make it clear if it did 802.11, so thanks for clearing that up.
Now I just have to figure out how to spend money that I dont have yet to get one..
-saber
I got my Wii and its great.
I believe one day, Nintendo can evolve the controller to the point that is as fluid and easy as moving a mouse so pc/console games are essentially interchangable in gameplay.
Got to play with a Wii this weekend, and I have to say I was quite impressed. Despite the lack of the hardware the 360 and PS3 have, the controller design and overall software of the console is enough for this one to be the first of the nex-gen consoles I'm going to buy.
I just played the Wii today with my friends. 5 of us, 2 controllers, but Wii Sports was the only multiplayer game he had (the owner). I had fun and I can say confidently, I'm going to get a Wii and an extra controller. But my friends will have to get their own if they want to play. It's expensive. Haha. Making Miis are fun by the way.
So the Internet connection, you cant just plug it in?
Damn. I don't have any WiFi in my house..
| Loghete wrote: |
So the Internet connection, you cant just plug it in?
Damn. I don't have any WiFi in my house.. |
If you have wireless access, then your Wii should be able to connect to the internet, if not then you need to buy an adapter so the Wii can connect via ethernet. I already have a wireless router so I'm covered when I do get this console.
@QrafTee
If I read right its not that you can plug in the adapter to an either net cable(cat 5) but that its a usb drive that plugs in usb to a windows computer that has a connection. The direct either net to the wii's usb wont be out untill early 2007.
@william
Thanks for the answer before, but I was wondering if you could explain how to connect using 802.1x. There are some other guys in the dorm and are unable to get it working.
-saber
[quote="eLto"]10 reasons why the PS3 beats all you nintendo fanboys:
1 Nvidia RSX GPU.
2 Cell CPU with 8 dual-cores
3 Bluetooth
4 Blu-Ray (54 GB storage space)
5 Hard drive
6 wireless controllers with motion sensibilty, ergonomically shaped
7 Memory slots for various types of media
8 Support for 7 controllers
9 Plays all sorts of media (mp3, wav, avi, mpg etc.)
10 It looks tons cooler
I know you people like nintendo, and don't get me wrong, so did I, until the N64 came out, still using cartridges. Zelda was GREAT, Goldeneye was GREAT, perfect dark was GREAT, and hell, even diddy kong racing was fun, but nintendo seems to always aim for children and new playing styles, whereas sony (and microsuck) aim for the mainstream masses of multimedia, and therefore get way better performing consoles.
Anyway, that's my opinion, and your opinions are yours. Nothing I can do about it.[/quote
I am not agree with what you say...
what you qouted is how such console is awesome.....on the great graphics and the multimedia compatibility only...
Being a gamer I am looking for a good game to play...
A game that values as good is not only how realistics to the graphics are...but also the creativity and the fun we can draw from..
it's quite true that PS3 have impressive displaying and its outlook..but that's all....I have see many passages on the web criticing on its loading time and the problem of overheating...I guess no one would accept an unstable and loading machine to play for.
Moreover, PS3 was definitely a high end product which requires a HDTV and professional sound system to make it works effectively.....I am just query, how many household could afford such professional AV environment at home?...
| Saber wrote: |
@QrafTee
If I read right its not that you can plug in the adapter to an either net cable(cat 5) but that its a usb drive that plugs in usb to a windows computer that has a connection. The direct either net to the wii's usb wont be out untill early 2007.
@william
Thanks for the answer before, but I was wondering if you could explain how to connect using 802.1x. There are some other guys in the dorm and are unable to get it working.
-saber |
I might be incorrect since I've never even touched the Wii, but I'm pretty sure I know how. If you have a wireless connection, here's what you do:
1. Go to connection settings.
2. I think 3 options appear, choose an open connection that says "None."
3. Choose wireless connection.
4. Then, I think, select, "Search for an Access Point."
5. The Wii will search for available connections. Choose the right connection and enter any security information. (If any.)
6. It'll then ask you to save these settings; choose OK.
7. It'll then ask you to run a test, if it works, then the Wii's internet access is set up.
If the last step fails, then, in step 4, try Manual Setup.
Like I said, I might be wrong. The only reason I know this is because I once perused the Wii's manual.
Well I will look through that again, but it might be that the connection here is setup in a way that wont allow it. To be fair, I dont think that supplying wii access to college students is top on their list.
if I cant get that working then I guess I will either have to wait two-ish months for the eithernet to usb direct wii plug or just stoop and get the windows usb wifi adapter for the wii.
Over all Im still some what baffled that nintendo would decide not to include a plug for either net, it cant possible be much more space..
And in the process of figuring this out, Im now wondering if I can reason with my self that spending about $300 is worth playing zelda. It would be nice if the wii was able to play dvds but nope, hopefully that rumor about them thinking about making a new model is true and that I will be able to put off getting one untill that happens.(Or just be depressed when I just suck up and admit that Im waiting for nothing)
oh well, stuff like this happens, maybe I can "steal"(other wise known as borrow) it from the guys down the hall when they go away for weekends, but thats not really worth the time.
Sorry for the rant, Anyways, that manual that you paged through doesn't happen to be online would it?
-saber
Why thank you for linking that,
Ill take a look at it tonight.
-saber
To the guy who asked if it's worth $300 just to play Zelda, in a word: yes. I got my Wii on launch day and have been playing Zelda ever since. A few points:
No, you don't have to move your whole arm, and as a result, no, your arms do not get tired. In fact, I move my wiimote hand more often to aim e.g. my bow than I do to swing my sword -- you can do a spin attack by shaking the nunchuk, and that's a better attack, so I use it most of the time.
Wireless setup is simple, and if you know anything about 802.11 security it's a snap to use. It supports all the major encryption protocols (WEP, WPA, and WPA2) and lets you input passwords, etc. using the on-screen keyboard, which is amazingly not that painful to use. The more you play with it, the easier it is to use the wiimote as a mouse.
The graphics look pretty damn good -- it's not the PS3, but it's about a third as expensive (plus Nintendo makes a tidy profit while Sony takes a huge loss), so you have to adjust your expectations. Also, if you don't have a high-def TV, you're likely to get about as good a picture as you can expect out of this generation.
I'll end my post with a question. Does anybody know when the big N is planning to drop the system update that includes Opera? I'm eager to see how the browser is going to work.
I saw a video of a Wii using its internet capabilities. I'm not sure if its the Opera browser, but I doubt there is anything else. It basically works like a normal browser with your Wii remote as the mouse. Drag, click, whatever you normally do to navigate a page.
Some guy found a way to bypass the Wii's systems to use the browsers capabilities, for this reason he could only surf the web for around 5 minutes or so before his Wii froze.
Mine's been pre-ordered! Time for celebrations!
I live in the UK and it's out in 2 weeks time.
Although I doubt I'll be able to get it on launch day: the queues will be awful!
The Wii has broken all first week sales records in this country... and that's before it's even been released! I reckon that's impressive.
Oh, and Ninty are shipping 4 million consoles into the UK alone by December... that's double what Sony planned.
Omg, I cannot WAIT for the Wii! I really wanna get one. It's just so cool.
Joystiq says Wii sold out in a day, probably over 1 million units. Here's what I think.
| Fire Boar wrote: |
Mine's been pre-ordered! Time for celebrations!
I live in the UK and it's out in 2 weeks time.
Although I doubt I'll be able to get it on launch day: the queues will be awful!
The Wii has broken all first week sales records in this country... and that's before it's even been released! I reckon that's impressive.
Oh, and Ninty are shipping 4 million consoles into the UK alone by December... that's double what Sony planned. |
Hmm, I don't know where you got that data, but I heard Nintendo was planning to get out 4 million consoles by the end of this year worldwide since they've only gotten out a little less than 1 million now... maybe more since I heard shipments are arriving today. And then something about an additional 6 million by 1st quarter '07? I don't remember. Yeah, but Sony totally jipped you guys, I think Europe isn't getting any until '07 .
hmm imho Wii is half next gen. It isnt Super Extra Power like xbox360 and PS3 but im sure that the next gen controler will give lot of fun
I think i will buy it.
| fiorello wrote: |
hmm imho Wii is half next gen. It isn't Super Extra Power like xbox360 and PS3 but im sure that the next gen controller will give lot of fun I think i will buy it. |
I agree that its not fully 'next gen' at least in some ways.
Sure its not able to do anything else other than play Nintendo games(No dvd, no mp3) and sure its not a graphics power house, But when you think about it, when Has Nintendo done that?
In my own limited view, I seem to think that Nintendo and companies that make the games try to make up for "shiny" graphics with game play. Now I'm not saying that this is always true, or that that means that other systems either have good graphics and bad game play, or the other way around. But then again, I don't have a very wide view of games over all, I stick to ones that I like, and watch others play what they like.(money doesn't grow on trees)
For the Wii, correct if I'm wrong, but isn't it about the same size of an older desktop cd drive? Or to put it simpler the smaller of the next gen?
With size, that would limit space for graphics, and what I just cant get my mind past, no either net port.
So, at least in my mind, even that the Wii doesn't have such power from the system, not as good graphics and no hard drive, but the games might make up for it.
-saber
| Saber wrote: |
| fiorello wrote: | hmm imho Wii is half next gen. It isn't Super Extra Power like xbox360 and PS3 but im sure that the next gen controller will give lot of fun I think i will buy it. |
I agree that its not fully 'next gen' at least in some ways.
Sure its not able to do anything else other than play Nintendo games(No dvd, no mp3) and sure its not a graphics power house, But when you think about it, when Has Nintendo done that?
In my own limited view, I seem to think that Nintendo and companies that make the games try to make up for "shiny" graphics with game play. Now I'm not saying that this is always true, or that that means that other systems either have good graphics and bad game play, or the other way around. But then again, I don't have a very wide view of games over all, I stick to ones that I like, and watch others play what they like.(money doesn't grow on trees)
For the Wii, correct if I'm wrong, but isn't it about the same size of an older desktop cd drive? Or to put it simpler the smaller of the next gen?
With size, that would limit space for graphics, and what I just cant get my mind past, no either net port.
So, at least in my mind, even that the Wii doesn't have such power from the system, not as good graphics and no hard drive, but the games might make up for it.
-saber |
Well first, "... means that other systems either have good graphics and bad game play, or the other way around..." Umm... where in the book does it say it can't have both? Wasn't LoZ: OoT a great game? (Graphics and gameplay were great in those days), same with Final Fantasy VII and Tactics. I'm just saying games can have both, and it's not limited to individual consoles.
The Wii is the size of an internal CD-drive for any modern desktop, but it loads like a car's CD player.
And you're right, not having much power can be compensated for its great games. So far though there are only two that I know of: Wii Sports and LoZ: TP.
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Umm... where in the book does it say it can't have both? Wasn't LoZ: OoT a great game? (Graphics and gameplay were great in those days), same with Final Fantasy VII and Tactics. I'm just saying games can have both, and it's not limited to individual consoles.
The Wii is the size of an internal CD-drive for any modern desktop, but it loads like a car's CD player.
And you're right, not having much power can be compensated for its great games. So far though there are only two that I know of: Wii Sports and LoZ: TP. |
Ah, well yes Loz: Oot was a great game, an so were a lot of others, what I ment by "shiny" might be different from what others think, and thats always going to happen. "shiny" in my mind is say, for the ps3, some boxing game that they used in a preview, they show sweat when the guy gets hit. Now I dont know if thats just for show, and theres nothing in the game like that, but I'm just trying to say, things that one could say, adds to the game, But isnt needed. Now true lots of things aren't needed so like I mentioned above it comes down to what different people like/dislike/etc.
As for my comment before about how the games could make up for lack of some graphics, I guess I should really look into future titles, as I only know of the handful that are already out.(And I'm still really looking forward to getting to play LoZ:TP for more than 10 minutes)
-saber
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This is kind of funny, but there have been reports of people smashing their televisions. Some people really get into the game, and end up destroying their television with their Wiimote. There was one person who's wrist strap broke and the Wiimote flew off and killed the television. I've seen these reports on a bunch of websites; I'll post the links if I find them.
I've heard about the TV smashing incidents as well. I'm going to make extra sure that doesn't happen to my tv, so I might change nintendo's weak strap for a stronger one.
Also does anyone know if ASDA or Blockbuster will be selling Wiis at the launch in the UK?
| william wrote: |
| This is kind of funny, but there have been reports of people smashing their televisions. Some people really get into the game, and end up destroying their television with their Wiimote. There was one person who's wrist strap broke and the Wiimote flew off and killed the television. I've seen these reports on a bunch of websites; I'll post the links if I find them. |
Well reports only say it smashes a TV if the TV is new since the newer models are much more fragile than the older ones (where you could punch the screen and it won't even crack). There have also been instances of ricocheting Wii remotes off walls/ceilings and Wii remote collisions rendering one fine, but the other damaged.
Yay we've been officialisified!
Anyway, here's a link.
Wiimote vs TV
| Whong wrote: |
| eLto wrote: | | The Wii is "simply an upgrade" of the GC aswell, except it has the "wiimote". So that's what you call it now. infact, compared to a PS3, the wii isn't even a good upgrade. the hardware specs aren't even close to even the 360! |
Hardware specs aren't the only thing that matter. What good is great hardware if the games are lousy. Super Mario Bros 1, 3, Super Mario 64, The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time didn't have very good graphics and the music was midi in Mario 64 and Zelda. Graphically they look very bad now, but they were the best sellers of their time and are still played with a really happy mind. They are great though they don't have such great graphics.
People now a days care only for the specs and graphics, not for the games. A good game is a game which you enjoy playing and want to play it as soon as you can. The quality of games are becoming bad because we only care about the power and ablities of the consoles and not the actual games! |
True, True... in many cases. I dont have any console right now, and dont have any plans on getting any either. But you can´t say wii isn´t creating something quite new and interesting with the controlls. Sure it has good specs and so on, but personally I think they have put quite a lot of thought behind it to make it something new, that none of the other consoles have (at least not to that extent).
I'm not going to lie, but the Wii has kind of gotten me interested in that console mainly because of the interactiveness compared to the PS3 and Xbox 360. The Wii has kind of been flying under the radar and it really kind of makes me want to get one if I was into console gaming.
The way some of the games interact with the players, such as the sports game, no longer can gaming be used as an excuse to make people fat. ;)
| gh0stface wrote: |
I'm not going to lie, but the Wii has kind of gotten me interested in that console mainly because of the interactiveness compared to the PS3 and Xbox 360. The Wii has kind of been flying under the radar and it really kind of makes me want to get one if I was into console gaming.
The way some of the games interact with the players, such as the sports game, no longer can gaming be used as an excuse to make people fat.  |
Y'know, there are people complaining that the Wii is "hurting" them. Like some weight lifter was saying hos his arm started to hurt after playing Wii Baseball (Wii Sports), I'm like "what the hell, you lift weights, be a man." I think the Governor of California aka Governator should endorse the Wii and even somehow make it cheaper since he's a former body builder and hates fat people. It's the best of both worlds. 
| eLto wrote: |
10 reasons why the PS3 beats all you nintendo fanboys:
1 Nvidia RSX GPU.
2 Cell CPU with 8 dual-cores
3 Bluetooth
4 Blu-Ray (54 GB storage space)
5 Hard drive
6 wireless controllers with motion sensibilty, ergonomically shaped
7 Memory slots for various types of media
8 Support for 7 controllers
9 Plays all sorts of media (mp3, wav, avi, mpg etc.)
10 It looks tons cooler
I know you people like nintendo, and don't get me wrong, so did I, until the N64 came out, still using cartridges. Zelda was GREAT, Goldeneye was GREAT, perfect dark was GREAT, and hell, even diddy kong racing was fun, but nintendo seems to always aim for children and new playing styles, whereas sony (and microsuck) aim for the mainstream masses of multimedia, and therefore get way better performing consoles.
Anyway, that's my opinion, and your opinions are yours. Nothing I can do about it. |
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FAIL SONY FANBOY.
heres a site that has some reports about those wii releated problems, such as the remote breaking windows, palms, etc.
http://www.wiihaveaproblem.com/
It's great that Wii kind of gives you some excercise while you play, for you hands. It will ease the neck and shoulders or atleast they won't get so jammed and thight and paining.
Wii play looks interresting too, specially Table Tennis and Pool. 
| Whong wrote: |
It's great that Wii kind of gives you some excercise while you play, for you hands. It will ease the neck and shoulders or atleast they won't get so jammed and thight and paining.
Wii play looks interresting too, specially Table Tennis and Pool.  |
Well let's just say this. There are physicians telling Wii gamers (the older ones) to stretch out before playing so they don't hurt themselves (again... usually)
| Whong wrote: |
Hardware specs aren't the only thing that matter. What good is great hardware if the games are lousy. Super Mario Bros 1, 3, Super Mario 64, The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time didn't have very good graphics and the music was midi in Mario 64 and Zelda. Graphically they look very bad now, but they were the best sellers of their time and are still played with a really happy mind. They are great though they don't have such great graphics.
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All those marios and zeldas had great graphics for their time. I'm not saying that it was graphics that sold them as they were definitely fun games. But yes, they had great graphics for when they were released.
| Whong wrote: |
People now a days care only for the specs and graphics, not for the games. A good game is a game which you enjoy playing and want to play it as soon as you can. The quality of games are becoming bad because we only care about the power and ablities of the consoles and not the actual games!
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You seem to make a big deal about "people caring just for graphics" more than ps3 and 360 owners do. The majority of what I hear from them is that they care about he games such as Gears of War, Halo 3, Final Fantasy XIII, Metal Gear Solid 4 and so on. I don't hear them saying, "I'm buying this system cause it can *possibly* produce pretty games." I hear them saying, "Gears of War is awesome and I love playing it." People are buying these systems because they do/will have good games. You can't honestly tell me the PS3 is gonna succeed if it didn't have its biggest franchises yet it could (it can't though) produce FF7 Advent Children in real time, now can you?
Furthermore, if you were right, then Resistance wouldn't be the top selling PS3 launch game. Genji would. All the reviews say Genji is a gorgeous game, but the gameplay is completely horrid. Resistance doesn't look all that great but people rave about how fun the game is. So you like to say these PS3 owners just care about graphics... now tell me why the uglier game is the top seller while the prettiest game is probably down near the bottom.
Who the living hell cares about the "prettiness" difference between two PS3 launch titles? On a scale of 1 to 10, the PS3 titles are 8.5 and 9, and Zelda is like a 4 or a 5. Neither of the PS3 titles is half as fun as Zelda, as far as I can tell -- Zelda games (including TP) occupy 3 of the top 20 score slots at Metacritic, all averaging over 96%. Resistance is averaging 89%. Genji, of course, is a steaming pile of 57%.
Now, I'm not saying a game can't be both pretty and fun, BUT, I would contend that PS3 has to work extra hard at being fun to make up for the fact that it's more than twice as expensive, not counting the fact that games are more expensive too. In terms of fun per dollar, it's going to be really hard to beat the Wii, and if anybody does, the Xbox 360 has a better chance of doing so than the PS3, at least for the foreseeable future. IMHO.
| Kelcey wrote: |
You seem to make a big deal about "people caring just for graphics" more than ps3 and 360 owners do. The majority of what I hear from them is that they care about he games such as Gears of War, Halo 3, Final Fantasy XIII, Metal Gear Solid 4 and so on. I don't hear them saying, "I'm buying this system cause it can *possibly* produce pretty games." I hear them saying, "Gears of War is awesome and I love playing it." People are buying these systems because they do/will have good games. You can't honestly tell me the PS3 is gonna succeed if it didn't have its biggest franchises yet it could (it can't though) produce FF7 Advent Children in real time, now can you?
Furthermore, if you were right, then Resistance wouldn't be the top selling PS3 launch game. Genji would. All the reviews say Genji is a gorgeous game, but the gameplay is completely horrid. Resistance doesn't look all that great but people rave about how fun the game is. So you like to say these PS3 owners just care about graphics... now tell me why the uglier game is the top seller while the prettiest game is probably down near the bottom. |
You seem to have shot yourself in the foot by saying people didn't care about the graphics in Gears of War, MGS4, etc. Here is what people say about these games:
"It looks gorgeous."
"Man, look how real it looks."
"The graphics are awesome!"
"Looks better than any other game out there."
And you said it yourself Genji looks better than Resistance (but I still think Resistance looks good, visually) and then go on to say that Genji would be the top selling game. What does that tell you about PS3 owners? They do care about the graphics, apparently more than gameplay (from the statistics you gave me)
But you are right about one thing, it's the third-party companies with promises to stick with the PS3 which means they'll get good games that gets the real gamers going (if there are anymore of them... quite a rare breed... especially in PS3 owners)
| QrafTee wrote: |
| Kelcey wrote: |
You seem to make a big deal about "people caring just for graphics" more than ps3 and 360 owners do. The majority of what I hear from them is that they care about he games such as Gears of War, Halo 3, Final Fantasy XIII, Metal Gear Solid 4 and so on. I don't hear them saying, "I'm buying this system cause it can *possibly* produce pretty games." I hear them saying, "Gears of War is awesome and I love playing it." People are buying these systems because they do/will have good games. You can't honestly tell me the PS3 is gonna succeed if it didn't have its biggest franchises yet it could (it can't though) produce FF7 Advent Children in real time, now can you?
Furthermore, if you were right, then Resistance wouldn't be the top selling PS3 launch game. Genji would. All the reviews say Genji is a gorgeous game, but the gameplay is completely horrid. Resistance doesn't look all that great but people rave about how fun the game is. So you like to say these PS3 owners just care about graphics... now tell me why the uglier game is the top seller while the prettiest game is probably down near the bottom. |
You seem to have shot yourself in the foot by saying people didn't care about the graphics in Gears of War, MGS4, etc. Here is what people say about these games:
"It looks gorgeous."
"Man, look how real it looks."
"The graphics are awesome!"
"Looks better than any other game out there."
And you said it yourself Genji looks better than Resistance (but I still think Resistance looks good, visually) and then go on to say that Genji would be the top selling game. What does that tell you about PS3 owners? They do care about the graphics, apparently more than gameplay (from the statistics you gave me)
But you are right about one thing, it's the third-party companies with promises to stick with the PS3 which means they'll get good games that gets the real gamers going (if there are anymore of them... quite a rare breed... especially in PS3 owners) |
MGS4 doesn't even look that great (during gameplay). People will say games look amazing or they look like trash. It comes with every game. I said Genji does look better and it does. What I *did* say was that it *WOULD* be the best selling game according to *ps3 owners only care about graphics* logic. Then the point is *proven* that that's not all *ps3 owners care about* because it IS NOT the best selling ps3 launch game. That was the point. I like my graphics and I'll say, "damn that game looks good" but won't buy it if it isn't fun. A good example is motorstorm. People say it looks great but that's all... it's not gonna outsell something like Resistance (which I think does look like a ps2 game on steroids). I don't like any of the ps3 launch games and I'm not buying any of them. Fight Night 3 looks amazing on PS3, but I'm not buying that either cause I just don't care much for boxing games. I'm waiting for something like Heavenly Sword which admittedly doesn't look all that awesome to me. Something like Virtua Tennis 3 which doesn't look all that great until you're between points. Also, I'll be getting Ninja Gaiden Sigma which really is just an xbox game on steroids as well. I'm getting them because they *should* be fun.
Of course people are gonna say how great gears looks... but it wouldn't reach the sales it has if it wasn't a great game. It's fun and it keeps the fighting fresh. People are excited about something like MGS4 because they love the game. Same goes with Final fantasy. If MGS4 and FFXIII looked like ps1 games this generation, people would still buy them. I bought FFXII cause I'm a Final Fantasy fan. I hated it. The game was a complete mess even though it looked great. So using these games as examples is probably not even worthwhile for anyone (including me). But let's look at something like Katamari... not exactly a graphically good looking game it came out of no where. The PS2 owners loved enough and bought enough to get a sequel. People will say, "OMG THAT LOOKS AWESOME" but won't say, "OMG I'M ONLY BUYING IT CAUSE IT LOOKS AWESOME." If they do, then they're stupid. But the point is despite gorgeous graphics, a game won't sell unless it's good (recall genji discussion). Genji may very well be the best looking and worst selling game at the moment. That shows that (through the few that have ps3s) that graphics aren't everything to PS3 owners. It's a terrible generalization and sounds just as bad as "Nintendo only makes games for kids," which is complete crap.
And why just attack PS3/360 owners as graphic ******? Like you said, you hear people say how awesome gears,mgs, and ff look. What about when the Smash Bros. Brawl trailer hit the internet? The Nintendo fans were screaming about "how good it looks." So are you saying then, that Nintendo fans only care about graphics cause they *say* that? They ALSO say the previous versions were fun as hell. The same goes for MGS4 and Final Fantasy. Those games earned their fanbase through story(ff) and gameplay(mgs). Admittedly ff7 probably pulled in a crap load of people into the RPG genre because it was gorgeous for its time. I'll give anyone that point. A lot of "rpg fans" started at FF7. Personally I don't like MGS... just not my type of game. So I'm not gonna buy it... I don't care if it pulled pre rendered killzone graphics. I don't like the gameplay (I know the rest of the world does). I didn't get gears of war until just like 3 days ago cause all my friends were telling me how great it was to PLAY. Out of all these graphical monsters (ff,mgs,gears) can you honestly say they will probably not be fun? I can come up with (and have(genji)) a graphically great game that sucks and nobody is buying it. The reviews all stated how great it looked by how crappy the game was. Can you find a game that was just great graphically (but had no previous following like final fantasy cause it doesn't work in either argument since the fans will buy it regardless of gameplay/graphics) and sucked so much crap gameplay wise, yet was a crazy top seller?
| Ghengis wrote: |
Who the living hell cares about the "prettiness" difference between two PS3 launch titles? On a scale of 1 to 10, the PS3 titles are 8.5 and 9, and Zelda is like a 4 or a 5. Neither of the PS3 titles is half as fun as Zelda, as far as I can tell -- Zelda games (including TP) occupy 3 of the top 20 score slots at Metacritic, all averaging over 96%. Resistance is averaging 89%. Genji, of course, is a steaming pile of 57%.
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Are you arguing against me or with me? That's exactly my point, nobody cares about the "prettiness" difference between two ps3 launch titles. Others were saying that all PS3 owners cared about were graphics. I was saying otherwise. Thanks for agreeing.
Finally while it may seem I'm pro-ps3... just read the posts. I'm pretty much anti-typical-bashing on systems. I'm tired of the "Nintendo only makes games for kids" and the "360/PS3 people only care about graphics." Those have to be the two stupidest generalizations I've ever heard. If I had to list my favorites for the companies, it'd be Nintendo first, Sony second, and Microsoft third. I give Nintendo the nod because they can make games. They can support their own system with just their games (cube/n64 examples... while they may not have been the best sellers, nintendo is still going). In my opinion, Sony lucked in on Nintendo's cartridge fault and gained their third party support. Sony really has done nothing special to earn first place in the console wars. If square/konami left them, Sony would be completely dead. As for microsoft, I just can't stand Peter Moore. Sure Kutaragi is just as lame, but he knows he's stupid and listening to his crap always makes me laugh. Do I like pretty graphics? Yeah I do. Will I buy a game just cause it looks good? No.
I'm very intrigued by the Wii. I'm gonna get one when I don't have to camp a few hours to get one. Then I'll have all 3 consoles.
I want one of these. They are hard to get a hold of in my area though. Gah.
I love the stories I'm hearing about people breaking their TVs and windows thanks to this slipping out of their hands tho 
| Kelcey wrote: |
| Whong wrote: |
Hardware specs aren't the only thing that matter. What good is great hardware if the games are lousy. Super Mario Bros 1, 3, Super Mario 64, The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time didn't have very good graphics and the music was midi in Mario 64 and Zelda. Graphically they look very bad now, but they were the best sellers of their time and are still played with a really happy mind. They are great though they don't have such great graphics.
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All those marios and zeldas had great graphics for their time. I'm not saying that it was graphics that sold them as they were definitely fun games. But yes, they had great graphics for when they were released.
| Whong wrote: |
People now a days care only for the specs and graphics, not for the games. A good game is a game which you enjoy playing and want to play it as soon as you can. The quality of games are becoming bad because we only care about the power and ablities of the consoles and not the actual games!
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You seem to make a big deal about "people caring just for graphics" more than ps3 and 360 owners do. The majority of what I hear from them is that they care about he games such as Gears of War, Halo 3, Final Fantasy XIII, Metal Gear Solid 4 and so on. I don't hear them saying, "I'm buying this system cause it can *possibly* produce pretty games." I hear them saying, "Gears of War is awesome and I love playing it." People are buying these systems because they do/will have good games. You can't honestly tell me the PS3 is gonna succeed if it didn't have its biggest franchises yet it could (it can't though) produce FF7 Advent Children in real time, now can you?
Furthermore, if you were right, then Resistance wouldn't be the top selling PS3 launch game. Genji would. All the reviews say Genji is a gorgeous game, but the gameplay is completely horrid. Resistance doesn't look all that great but people rave about how fun the game is. So you like to say these PS3 owners just care about graphics... now tell me why the uglier game is the top seller while the prettiest game is probably down near the bottom. |
I'm not saying that graphics isn't an important factor, of course it is! But good games must have all things in a good balance. What good is a game with great graphics if the control mechanism is just lousy or vice versa!
I think it is great that games have great graphics, but for me all parts are important, graphics, controling, audio and lasting apeal.
That's how I feel! 
I will probably buy a Wii sometime in the near future if I decide I want a home console again. The price tag, controller, and especially the downloadable classic games are selling points for me. Sure, I have ROMs for all the old games there are, but sometimes I don't want to be on the computer. Plus I have a slew of old Sega Master System and Genesis games tucked away in boxes, but I don't feel like digging all that out just to play some Sonic 3 on my TV.
The PS3 is also attractive to me because of the Blu-ray function of it, since I wantto upgrade to HD-everything in a few years. And Final Fantasy (not the Chronicles-style games like Nintendo has these days, though those are cool too). But the price is insane.
And what the heck is with charging FIFTY DOLLARS for a controller? Even the Wii controller is high priced. All things I will consider when buying a system. But the Wii is quite attractive to me.
@eday2010
The controllers have always been costly to some extent. Wired controllers are still about $25 and wireless controllers are in the $30+ range.
So to start they would be about $30ish then add in motion sensing.
That would be about what $8-$10?
And finally add on the "factor of new" that adds a bit, maybe $10?
Then there you go, thats the $50ish controller. I agree that they are expensive, and really do add to the over all price to the system.
What bothers me more about the Wii(please tell me if I'm wrong, I hope I am) is that when you buy a new controller it doesn't come with the numchuck.
I haven't checked that but I seem to remember that for some odd reason, again please correct me if I'm wrong.
-saber
@Saber
Well, when you buy a Wiimote, you only get a Wiimote. (And that's $40). The Nunchuk is an extra $20 and the classic controller is also $20. Still not bad for a new controller. Xbox 360's and PS3's controllers are both $50, and considering the power of the Wiimote, the extra $10 is worth it.
Re: William, at least with the Wiimote you get a reason for the hardware to be expensive -- it has a CCD (camera sensor) and 3-axis accelerometer (tilt sensor), plus Bluetooth which is probably the most expensive consumer-grade wireless tech to license. I'm glad it has all those things (especially Bluetooth -- I look forward to using it as a PC mouse!), but each adds a serious price premium. What does the 360 have? Buttons -- old. Analog sticks -- old. RF wireless -- old. There's a reason why there's a bunch of 3rd-party 360 controllers and no 3rd-party Wiimotes, and the reason is that 360 controllers are simple while Wiimotes are very, very complex.
Re: Kelcey, I'm not really making a point about PS3 *gamers*, but rather PS3 *designers*. If you write games for PS3, you *must* invest more (probably several times more) in graphics development to "keep up with the Joneses", the Joneses being all the other PS3 games that want to take advantage of all that graphical grunt. The Wii has the benefit of a novel input method without the burden of needing everything to be shiny. I don't subscribe to the notion that every time you double the speed you make it "better". I think that's what people are talking about when they say PS3 owners "just care about graphics".
I miss the good old days when Controllers were $10 or $15. One more reason I still say the 16-bit era was the best!
| Ghengis wrote: |
| Re: William, at least with the Wiimote you get a reason for the hardware to be expensive -- it has a CCD (camera sensor) and 3-axis accelerometer (tilt sensor), plus Bluetooth which is probably the most expensive consumer-grade wireless tech to license. I'm glad it has all those things (especially Bluetooth -- I look forward to using it as a PC mouse!), but each adds a serious price premium. What does the 360 have? Buttons -- old. Analog sticks -- old. RF wireless -- old. There's a reason why there's a bunch of 3rd-party 360 controllers and no 3rd-party Wiimotes, and the reason is that 360 controllers are simple while Wiimotes are very, very complex. |
Eh... I don't think you quite read William's post carefully enough. He said that the extra $10 was worth it considering the power of the Wiimote. The Wiimote is the powerful one and costs $60 for it and the Nunchuck. Which is an extra $10 from the PS3 and XBox360. I think that's what he was referring to, and not suggesting that the Wiimote was less powerful and the others were worth an extra $10.
You get what you pay for. Want good graphics and system specs? Get the expensive machine. Want a fun and original way to control games? Get the expensive controller.
The great thing is, though, I don't think the controller is that expensive. XBox360, PS3 and Wii all support up to 4 player games. Let's add it up, remembering that all come with one controller as part of the bundle.
PS3: $600 for console plus 3x$50 for additional controllers = $750 in total.
XBox360: $400 for console plus 3x$50 for additional controllers = $550 in total.
Wii: $250 for console plus 3x$40 for additional Wiimotes plus 3x$20 for additional Nunchucks = $430 in total.
There we go. Over a hundred dollars less than the XBox 360, and over three hundred dollars less than the PS3. Bargain.
| Fire Boar wrote: |
| Ghengis wrote: | | Re: William, at least with the Wiimote you get a reason for the hardware to be expensive -- it has a CCD (camera sensor) and 3-axis accelerometer (tilt sensor), plus Bluetooth which is probably the most expensive consumer-grade wireless tech to license. I'm glad it has all those things (especially Bluetooth -- I look forward to using it as a PC mouse!), but each adds a serious price premium. What does the 360 have? Buttons -- old. Analog sticks -- old. RF wireless -- old. There's a reason why there's a bunch of 3rd-party 360 controllers and no 3rd-party Wiimotes, and the reason is that 360 controllers are simple while Wiimotes are very, very complex. |
Eh... I don't think you quite read William's post carefully enough. He said that the extra $10 was worth it considering the power of the Wiimote. The Wiimote is the powerful one and costs $60 for it and the Nunchuck. Which is an extra $10 from the PS3 and XBox360. I think that's what he was referring to, and not suggesting that the Wiimote was less powerful and the others were worth an extra $10.
You get what you pay for. Want good graphics and system specs? Get the expensive machine. Want a fun and original way to control games? Get the expensive controller.
The great thing is, though, I don't think the controller is that expensive. XBox360, PS3 and Wii all support up to 4 player games. Let's add it up, remembering that all come with one controller as part of the bundle.
PS3: $600 for console plus 3x$50 for additional controllers = $750 in total.
XBox360: $400 for console plus 3x$50 for additional controllers = $550 in total.
Wii: $250 for console plus 3x$40 for additional Wiimotes plus 3x$20 for additional Nunchucks = $430 in total.
There we go. Over a hundred dollars less than the XBox 360, and over three hundred dollars less than the PS3. Bargain. |
Yeah, that's what I meant. The Wiimote's price is the best, in my opinion. The 360 is wireless and uses and RF Antenna, yet my wireless controllers from the last generation cost $20-$25 less.
Oh yeah, the Playstation 3 can support up to seven controllers, but I doubt that any games will utilize that feature.
Let's not forget that at least a few multiplayer games don't need a 'chuck, so you can at least delay the extra 20 bucks. Plus, I'm holding out hope that they'll start bundling the two controllers for some slight cost savings...
Regardless, I'm going to try not to get my next controller until they start releasing more colors.
I juste played 50 cent bulletproof game ... really cool ...
i suggest that for youu!
Does anybody have any other suggestions for killer games for the Wii? I just picked one up a couple of weeks ago and was looking to get some new games. In particular, has anyone played that Marvel Ultimate Alliance game?
| boomtown15 wrote: |
| Does anybody have any other suggestions for killer games for the Wii? I just picked one up a couple of weeks ago and was looking to get some new games. In particular, has anyone played that Marvel Ultimate Alliance game? |
I've played it on the Xbox and it's pretty fun... with four people. Alone, it's alright, but nowhere near as fun. I haven't played the Wii version, but reviews say the Wii motions for the game weren't fine-tuned (which they should've been) so it's hard to actually execute attacks using the motions... well doesn't that beat the game up a bit?
...and its here.
The nintendo wii has finally been launched in Australia
Just a couple of more days and Wii will launch in Europe, which means that it will launch in Finland too!
Yeah! 

(Im an Aussie)
My friend camped outside EB last night to get his hands on his Wii...I havent seen him since. 
| LostOverThere wrote: |
(Im an Aussie)
My friend camped outside EB last night to get his hands on his Wii...I havent seen him since.  |
Well, at least he wasn't in line for a PS3. Then I'd *really* get worried...[/url]
The Wii is awesome.. it has so many features and is not really expensive...
Wii rules. I have been a Nintendo fanboy for years, but with good reason. In terms of Innovation they are always on the cutting edge. Nintendo 64 was a giant leap forward with the release of Mario 64 and the creation of the analog stick, which everyone copied. Same thing is happening now. I'm not about to pretend N64 wouldn't have been better served with a CD rom, but it finally learned, disc are the way of the future.
| enygmasoft wrote: |
| Wii rules. I have been a Nintendo fanboy for years, but with good reason. In terms of Innovation they are always on the cutting edge. Nintendo 64 was a giant leap forward with the release of Mario 64 and the creation of the analog stick, which everyone copied. Same thing is happening now. I'm not about to pretend N64 wouldn't have been better served with a CD rom, but it finally learned, disc are the way of the future. |
I'm a real Nintendo fan boy myself! I've never owned anything else, but Nintendo consoles and probably never will own anything else but Nintendo.
Many of you might say that I'm nuts or crazy, but that's the way I am!
Just a day or two and Nintendo Wii will be mine! 

Im a PC user since age 3, PC will always have the greatest potential for power and graphics and despite decades of doomsayers saying consoles will knock it from its place as top gaming machine it is still on top.
Xbox 360 and PS3 are both PCs in fancy plastic potty boxes forcing you to play first person shooters on a gamepad that is ridiculously unsuited to the task.
If I was gonna buy a console it would be for LIGHT entertainment and the Wii wins hands down for having something the PC doesn't.
(Well actually motion sensing controls that work in the exact same way were made for PC's years ago but without the nintendo hype machine and a ridiculous name they never took off.)
Actually people have ported the Wiimote to work on Mac, Linux, and Windows. It just requires a driver download and a bluetooth adapter. Then they made emulator to change Wiimote controls into mouse/keyboard controls.
There are videos in youtube of people playing Half-Life 2 and NFS:MW with it. Although WII ftw.
That would pretty sweet, runnign around in guild wars or half life 2 using a Wiimote. It'd definately make your feel more within the game than normal!
I can't wait to play Zelda on the Wii, I think it'll be the greatest Zelda experience ever, since its way more interctive!
i heard from a couple of guys that.. the wiimote flew off someones hand and injured a bystander.... and destroyed... some stuff too...
Is there any truth in it...
PS:- sorry for deviatiing from topic... 
| ashik wrote: |
i heard from a couple of guys that.. the wiimote flew off someones hand and injured a bystander.... and destroyed... some stuff too...
Is there any truth in it...
PS:- sorry for deviatiing from topic...  |
It is possible! But that is the mistake of the player, not the controler!
But you got to be carful, it isn't really nice if it goes through the TV screen! 
Wii Controllers a ginormously complex rig, but its worth the money. It packs alot of bang for the buck. It's certanly priceir than the oompetition and there is a clear reason why.
I'm on the edge of purchasing a Wii when they become available over here, but I have a serious concern about the longevity of the Wii.
How long does it take for the novelty of the Wii to wear off? Will the remote stay a reason to play games that aren't as graphically powerful as 360/PS3/PC.
Has the novelty work off for anyone yet?
Honestly the controller is the main reason I want one, but as I said I'm concerned it will become an annoyance over time. Until a lightsaber of course, and then WUMNMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!
Maybe the Wii has a new target, the people with destructive behaviour.
Wii= 249 Euro
Plasma TV = 800 Euro
Destroying it just playing a videogame has no price
| enygmasoft wrote: |
| Wii Controllers a ginormously complex rig, but its worth the money. It packs alot of bang for the buck. It's certanly priceir than the oompetition and there is a clear reason why. |
Actually, compare this:
http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=802113
to this:
http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2558833
You don't need a nunchuck per controller for any games that I'm aware of (yet), only 2 for e.g. Wii Sports boxing. I'm planning on getting a second Wiimote ASAP, but I'm probably only ever going to get one more nunchuck (so I can box my wife
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| Lusiphur wrote: |
I'm on the edge of purchasing a Wii when they become available over here, but I have a serious concern about the longevity of the Wii.
How long does it take for the novelty of the Wii to wear off? Will the remote stay a reason to play games that aren't as graphically powerful as 360/PS3/PC.
Has the novelty work off for anyone yet?
Honestly the controller is the main reason I want one, but as I said I'm concerned it will become an annoyance over time. Until a lightsaber of course, and then WUMNMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!! |
Everytime I go to my friend's house, we play Wii Sports and the controller hasn't lost its magic. Also, I just recently played Zelda: TP at his house and it was remarkably fun. I mean I like Zelda and all, but I was very happy with the top-side down versions rather than the 3rd person adventures, but it was pretty cool.
I like:
Nintendo 64
PS2
Nintendo wii - Best!!!
I dont like:
PS1
PS3
Nintendo gamecube - Worst!!!
X-Box
X-Box 360
And thats all I have to say about this...
@Boffel
Gamecube as the worst?
Why would you say that? It wasn't bad at all. Maybe in terms of marketing, but it was a fun console.
The Gamecube was marketed poorly, to be sure, but it had its share of good ideas. I liked the thought of GBAs as controllers -- not many games used it to good effect IMHO, but a few did. For a while there Resident Evil 4 was a GC exclusive, and that was a fantastic demo of the GC at its best. GC was the only place to get both Pikmin games (excellent), and the GC Smash Brothers continued a tradition of excellence. The same can be said of the GC Paper Mario. Both Metroid Primes did what I thought was impossible -- translated the incredible experience of Super Metroid (and I guess the GBA Metroids) into 3D without losing any of the spirit of the original(s). Wind Waker was probably Top-20-Games-Ever material -- if you complain about the "cartoony" (e.g. excellent) graphics, you're missing the point. I could go on, but I think I've made my point -- it was probably last in line for last-gen consoles for a reason, but I don't think Nintendo should have done anything different.
We just got a we recently. Well one week ago to be exact. I have already logged 35 hours on the zelda game (i'm at the end...) it's awesome. I really thought the wii was going to suck something awful, but t turns out it is actually innovative and fun. I just wish they could bump the graphics, it would defiantly add.
| brycearonium wrote: |
| We just got a we recently. Well one week ago to be exact. I have already logged 35 hours on the zelda game (i'm at the end...) it's awesome. I really thought the wii was going to suck something awful, but t turns out it is actually innovative and fun. I just wish they could bump the graphics, it would defiantly add. |
As it is said never judge a book by it's covers and an other proverb or something like that in Finnish: " Ei nimi miestä pahenna, vaan mies nimensä pahentaa" which is :" A name doesn't make a man bad, but it's the man who makes the name bad!"
So, Wii is great, even though the name might not be! 
J'aimerais en jouer que pour un seul jeu...
Zelda, the twilight princess !
J'ai hate de me mettre dans la peau de notre petit heros vert lol
Wow, in the whole city which I live next to, they did just get 2 Wii's! Counting all shops!
That's was December the 8th on release date... And still no more Wii's has arrived...
| Loghete wrote: |
Wow, in the whole city which I live next to, they did just get 2 Wii's! Counting all shops!
That's was December the 8th on release date... And still no more Wii's has arrived... |
Ouch... the Wal-Mart that me and my brothers got our Wii from got 29, of which we got the 22nd. 
any problems with the wii yet? heard alot of lcd screens being broken from playing with it. lolz
does anyone else agree that if your strap breaks or you let go of the wiimote and it breaks your TV, then your a moron and deserve to be broken, how on earth do you drop it. me and my mates go drunk and were playing tennis, not one of dropped it once.
| Yantaal wrote: |
| does anyone else agree that if your strap breaks or you let go of the wiimote and it breaks your TV, then your a moron and deserve to be broken, how on earth do you drop it. me and my mates go drunk and were playing tennis, not one of dropped it once. |
If one has sweaty palms it can slip of the hand.
But it is quite unlikely, that it would slip, but it is possible!
Everything has it's pros and cons! 
| Whong wrote: |
| Yantaal wrote: | | does anyone else agree that if your strap breaks or you let go of the wiimote and it breaks your TV, then your a moron and deserve to be broken, how on earth do you drop it. me and my mates go drunk and were playing tennis, not one of dropped it once. |
If one has sweaty palms it can slip of the hand.
But it is quite unlikely, that it would slip, but it is possible!
Everything has it's pros and cons!  |
Umm... wear gloves or something. Hell use that powder the gymnists use to make their hands dry. Do something so you don't go breaking TVs. Old school TVs are fine though, you can't break those easily. The more expensive new ones on the other hand...
I've just read that Nintendo will replace any Wiimote strap for a newer, better one. The new one is stronger and won't break as easily as the older one.
Here is the comparison of the old and new strap.
| william wrote: |
I've just read that Nintendo will replace any Wiimote strap for a newer, better one. The new one is stronger and won't break as easily as the older one.
Here is the comparison of the old and new strap. |
Man, I hope the new ones are made out of genuine spider silk. That'd rock.
The wii is not necessarily better graphics wise, but it has a lot more games out for it and motion sensored remote, it is so awesome 
I got a Wii. (got it on ebay) But I can't open it until Christmas.
I bought it, and had my mom pay me for it. xD
| Senshida wrote: |
I got a Wii. (got it on ebay) But I can't open it until Christmas.
I bought it, and had my mom pay me for it. xD |
Why would you buy a Wii off eBay? I mean you're just making those bastards who buy consoles just to sell on eBay happy. We're getting like 10-60 Wiis here every weekend. (spanning over many stores)
None of the stores here ever have one, they either go to pre-orders, and the ones that do go on the shelf sell out as soon as they get there.... Besides I got a pretty good deal... A Wii, 2 Extra Remotes, extra nunchuck, Twilight Princess, Excite Truck, and Red Steel for $600.
@Senshida
I don't know if I'd call that a good deal. All of that totals up to $500, so you payed an extra $100. However, since you got it early, I suppose it is worth it.
this is what i got for £244
Wii (in box)
Wii Play
Wii Sports (in box)
Zelda
Wiimote x2 (one in box)
Nunchuck x2 (one in box)
bloody bargain.
But nowi ts not working, and i need to send it in to nintendo.
| Yantaal wrote: |
this is what i got for £244
Wii (in box)
Wii Play
Wii Sports (in box)
Zelda
Wiimote x2 (one in box)
Nunchuck x2 (one in box)
bloody bargain.
But nowi ts not working, and i need to send it in to nintendo. |
That's odd, Nintendo stuff is quality stuff! It is very durable always!
I wonder how it isn't working, such a new console and all!
So overall - is it worth spending the money on something that looks pretty simple, play looks very energetic, when PS3 is just round the corner?
Or am i just backing up Sony too much on this one?
tbh mate, the ps3 is a lot of money, for basically an xbox.
graphics are nothing special
blue ray! dun du du duuuun
price is rediculous
its basically an xbox with blueray.
worth its money? no
better than a Wii? no
Creative? no
| johnsonap wrote: |
| So overall - is it worth spending the money on something that looks pretty simple, play looks very energetic, when PS3 is just round the corner? |
Absolutely! Wii is really so much fun with friends that it is a really great deal to buy a Wii, especially since it is so cheap!
If you like Sony then do this; buy now Wii and then PS3, so you'll get both great consoles! Wii is cheap so you'd better get it! 
| johnsonap wrote: |
So overall - is it worth spending the money on something that looks pretty simple, play looks very energetic, when PS3 is just round the corner?
Or am i just backing up Sony too much on this one? |
When you say looks pretty simple, do you mean the actual console? I agree the Wii looks very simple in design, but I have to tell you that it's far from simple on the inside. Yes, it has simple casual games like Wii Sports. But I should remind you that Zelda: Twilight Princess (Platinum Award winner by EGM standards) is no simple game, it's quite addicting (my friend had to pry me away from it when he had to go to work).
And the PS3 was here first so it's been Wii which has been "around the corner." The fact is this, both are just out of the gate and their launch isn't as impressive as anticipated. If you're planning to play with friends, get the Wii. If you're planning to save money, get the Wii. If you're into the classics, get the Wii. If you're into Nintendo's notable characters, get the Wii. If you're itching to play differently, get the Wii.
As for the PS3, go ahead and get it if you: can find one, have enough money, plan to play alone (not many good multiplayer games yet), are into Final Fantasy, want a Blu-ray player, are very into graphics and have an HDTV, didn't like rumble capabilities.
BTW Yantaal, if you don't mind please use a line break in your signature so it doesn't stretch the screen.
Got to say I've been disappointed lately -- I got Zelda and Excite truck, and Trauma Center and Elebits might have potential. I might consider Rayman or Marvel UA if they end up cheap (<$30 or so) used or something. Other than that... well, there's pretty much nothing on the "coming soon" list for at least 3 months. I hope that list is incomplete, because otherwise it starts to feel a lot like Gamecube. I think I'm going to also get a 360: in the USA, Microcenter has them for $400 - 100 rebate - 100 for using their store credit card, which is too good to pass up. At least there's a good handful of 360 games worth buying to tide me over (if VC continues to pump out duds).
| Ghengis wrote: |
| Got to say I've been disappointed lately -- I got Zelda and Excite truck, and Trauma Center and Elebits might have potential. I might consider Rayman or Marvel UA if they end up cheap (<$30 or so) used or something. Other than that... well, there's pretty much nothing on the "coming soon" list for at least 3 months. I hope that list is incomplete, because otherwise it starts to feel a lot like Gamecube. I think I'm going to also get a 360: in the USA, Microcenter has them for $400 - 100 rebate - 100 for using their store credit card, which is too good to pass up. At least there's a good handful of 360 games worth buying to tide me over (if VC continues to pump out duds). |
Wow the way you're talking is like comparing a matured apple to a young green orange. Remember, the 360 has been out a year now and obviously it'll have more titles. Second, yes it will have rebates and such since it's been out a whole year and merchants want to rid themselves of their 360s for the holidays.
Also, keep in mind that the Wii and PS3 has around the same amount of games with a champ to support them (that would be Zelda: TP and Resistance: FoM respectively). The price for Rayman probably won't go that low on its own and you should pass up Marvel: UA altogether since it's already out for 6 consoles (one of them being a handheld). I, myself, can't find one so I've finally just decided to wait until Super Smash Bros. Melee comes out or something else (probably an import like Naruto: GNT EX or Bleach) before forking over my money to Nintendo.
The wii is currently Outselling PS2 by a longshot and as Nintendo is actually making money off of its consoles that is a very good thing for Nintendo. Also the thing about the straps being too thin, means that people are very enthusiatic about the Wii.
I know it's a "young green orange", the problem is that most people leave oranges on the tree until they're not green anymore. Nintendo (and Sony) probably rushed a bit to get their consoles out before Christmas, and as a result neither had a stellar launch lineup. I can't complain too much -- Zelda was fantastic -- but I'm going to be playing PS2 games (like Final Fantasy XII) and GC games, and now apparently XB360 games as well, until Nintendo can line up some more quality products, which looks like kind of a long time.
| william wrote: |
I've just read that Nintendo will replace any Wiimote strap for a newer, better one. The new one is stronger and won't break as easily as the older one.
Here is the comparison of the old and new strap. |
you know that some spaz will break it and nintendo will have to fork out some kevla strap, or hire spiders to concoct a kick ass strap for them.
some idiot will always break it though. and it will Nintendos fault
Posting from a Wii w/ the new browser. A bit clumsy, but I like the idea...
| reallyjoel wrote: |
I see sticky's for PS3 and Xbox360, but not alot of love for Nintendo or specifically the Wii.
I'm definately getting a Wii, and I don't actually know anyone whose choice isn't the Wii.
We've also had a 360 at our schools (game design at uni) "games room" since launch, but the most anyone ever played on that is a bit of Hexic, or whatever it's called. I think even the old Xbox has seen more action.
And as for hitting weakspots to deal massive damage? Well.. it's a bit been there, done that, dont'cha think? |
I wanted to get a WII, unfortunately this was the first Nintendo System that I did not reserve the minute that I could. I had all the other systems reserved for close to a year before they came out. I missed out and by the time i went they were gone.
wow after the strap problem and all the plublicy from wiihaveaproblem.com I dont think im getting one for me. I did look all across Oklahoma ( about a 100 walmarts) until I found the Wii to give to my friend. I was able to pick up alot of ps3's and have a 1 day auction ending today at 4pm so I can overnight them. i'm going to make a lot i can't wait.
I went to the Winter Wonder Lan in San Fran, CA this last week or so, which was tons of fun. (100+ Gamers) Anyways someone had a wii setup, and we all played it a bit, interesting, but I can't believe people paid money for the thing oh well. The Graphics matched the old N64, the controls were novel but really not practical, they don't really work very well, and all that waving around led to a few injures play the tenis and boxing. After just a little while everyone went back to playing they PCs at the Lan.
Lets see Company of Heroes, hmmm it on the PC
StarCraft (9 years old) let me see yes PC
PC has CounterStrike Source, Steam, Halflife 2, DODS, and all those.
Can anyone say BattleField 1942, BattleField 2, and BattleField 2142. I guess it is easy to not really understand what real gaming is when you are playing around with a wiiwii. Have fun.
I went to the Winter Wonder Lan in San Fran, CA this last week or so, which was tons of fun. (100+ Gamers) Anyways someone had a wii setup, and we all played it a bit, interesting, but I can't believe people paid money for the thing oh well. The Graphics matched the old N64, the controls were novel but really not practical, they don't really work very well, and all that waving around led to a few injures play the tenis and boxing. After just a little while everyone went back to playing they PCs at the Lan.
Lets see Company of Heroes, hmmm it on the PC
StarCraft (9 years old) let me see yes PC
PC has CounterStrike Source, Steam, Halflife 2, DODS, and all those.
Can anyone say BattleField 1942, BattleField 2, and BattleField 2142. I guess it is easy to not really understand what real gaming is when you are playing around with a wiiwii. Have fun.
I really want a Wii, there out of stock everywere though
| Adam 552 wrote: |
| I really want a Wii, there out of stock everywere though |
Yeah that's bad, it's out of stock everywhere because it's so wanted everywhere. It is really a great game console! You've absolutely got to get it, I got mine just two days ago and it is really fabulous! 
| ForceRun wrote: |
I went to the Winter Wonder Lan in San Fran, CA this last week or so, which was tons of fun. (100+ Gamers) Anyways someone had a wii setup, and we all played it a bit, interesting, but I can't believe people paid money for the thing oh well. The Graphics matched the old N64, the controls were novel but really not practical, they don't really work very well, and all that waving around led to a few injures play the tenis and boxing. After just a little while everyone went back to playing they PCs at the Lan.
Lets see Company of Heroes, hmmm it on the PC
StarCraft (9 years old) let me see yes PC
PC has CounterStrike Source, Steam, Halflife 2, DODS, and all those.
Can anyone say BattleField 1942, BattleField 2, and BattleField 2142. I guess it is easy to not really understand what real gaming is when you are playing around with a wiiwii. Have fun. |
So basically everyone there was satisfied with classic gameplay. I mean seriously, from the years of CS to HL2, StarCraft to CoH, not much has changed. Now I can say that because I've played those games (and yes, I love SC a lot). I'm sorry you guys were so uncoordinated from the years of playing traditional games and allowing yourselves to get hurt from such a simple game like Wii Sports. Haha, well the Wii is for everyone as long as their bodies can handle it. BTW, comparing PC to any console isn't fair, PC always wins.
I think the most potential in the wii system is one for active people. They have this trouble with wrist straps breaking because people are taking advantage of this abilitiy. I know people who play some mad wii sports for a couple of hours and after they are done there is sweat everywhere because they have a nice system and a lot of space. They love it. And Zelda showed the potential for any game to be used to the best extent on wii. So far nothing more has happened really but I see a big future for the system.
| Wish4Me wrote: |
| I think the most potential in the wii system is one for active people. They have this trouble with wrist straps breaking because people are taking advantage of this abilitiy. I know people who play some mad wii sports for a couple of hours and after they are done there is sweat everywhere because they have a nice system and a lot of space. They love it. And Zelda showed the potential for any game to be used to the best extent on wii. So far nothing more has happened really but I see a big future for the system. |
Well the strap problem is probably fixed because Nintendo released new wrist straps. The strap thing happened to my dad while he was playing Wii Tennis. I get scared when he plays Wii Tennis now.
Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess didn't show anything amazing about the Wii. The only thing that really took advantage of the Wii was the aiming. The sword swings just replaced the B button. It doesn't matter how you swing the Wii remote i still does the same thing as pressing a button. Soon Nintendo will be able to make better zelda games on the Wii when they get more time for development. Twilight Princess was just a quick port of a Gamecube game.
NOOOO! My brand new Wii is broken!
(Got an error after updating, can't use online functions now)
Now I got to send it to Nintendo to get a new one. 
| Senshida wrote: |
NOOOO! My brand new Wii is broken!
(Got an error after updating, can't use online functions now)
Now I got to send it to Nintendo to get a new one.  |
I thought that update was old and Nintendo pulled it out a while ago. How did you end up downloading that update?
| ForceRun wrote: |
I went to the Winter Wonder Lan in San Fran, CA this last week or so, which was tons of fun. (100+ Gamers) Anyways someone had a wii setup, and we all played it a bit, interesting, but I can't believe people paid money for the thing oh well. The Graphics matched the old N64, the controls were novel but really not practical, they don't really work very well, and all that waving around led to a few injures play the tenis and boxing. After just a little while everyone went back to playing they PCs at the Lan.
Lets see Company of Heroes, hmmm it on the PC
StarCraft (9 years old) let me see yes PC
PC has CounterStrike Source, Steam, Halflife 2, DODS, and all those.
Can anyone say BattleField 1942, BattleField 2, and BattleField 2142. I guess it is easy to not really understand what real gaming is when you are playing around with a wiiwii. Have fun. |
You can't really really compare a Wii to a PC, now can you? You can get more parts for a computer and make it better and faster, you can't do that on a wii
You can't make your own Wii Games either.
In my opinion, the Wii is the only true video game system left, the others are just expensive, un-upgradeable, computers that let you do half of the stuff.
I'll bet it's been addressed here several times already, but as long as it keeps hitting the news... are people still wildly flinging Wiimotes into televisions? I know Nintendo is releasing replacement straps, but are they any different than the ones that keep breaking? It doesn't sound like it...
I want a Wii so bad. ;_;
I did not get Wii yet, but I like the idea of a workout.
| quex wrote: |
I'll bet it's been addressed here several times already, but as long as it keeps hitting the news... are people still wildly flinging Wiimotes into televisions? I know Nintendo is releasing replacement straps, but are they any different than the ones that keep breaking? It doesn't sound like it...
I want a Wii so bad. ;_; |
Well technically they're about 3-4 times thicker than the original Remote straps thus making it stronger. My friend still has the original straps and we play Wii Sports without any problems. He's even tried to let go to do Wii Bowling one time and it didn't break, but he doesn't dare to anymore since he heard of all the broken TV reports.
| QrafTee wrote: |
| Senshida wrote: | NOOOO! My brand new Wii is broken!
(Got an error after updating, can't use online functions now)
Now I got to send it to Nintendo to get a new one.  |
I thought that update was old and Nintendo pulled it out a while ago. How did you end up downloading that update? |
The problem was not in the update, it was a problem in some of the Wiis sold at launch. The one I got was purchased at launch, tucked away, wrapped up, and opened on Christmas Day.
The thing I love about Nintendo, is their customer service. Top notch!
| eLto wrote: |
10 reasons why the PS3 beats all you nintendo fanboys:
1 Nvidia RSX GPU.
2 Cell CPU with 8 dual-cores
3 Bluetooth
4 Blu-Ray (54 GB storage space)
5 Hard drive
6 wireless controllers with motion sensibilty, ergonomically shaped
7 Memory slots for various types of media
8 Support for 7 controllers
9 Plays all sorts of media (mp3, wav, avi, mpg etc.)
10 It looks tons cooler
I know you people like nintendo, and don't get me wrong, so did I, until the N64 came out, still using cartridges. Zelda was GREAT, Goldeneye was GREAT, perfect dark was GREAT, and hell, even diddy kong racing was fun, but nintendo seems to always aim for children and new playing styles, whereas sony (and microsuck) aim for the mainstream masses of multimedia, and therefore get way better performing consoles.
Anyway, that's my opinion, and your opinions are yours. Nothing I can do about it. |
I'm sorry but it's not really helping the PS3 right now. I see tons of Ps3s on shelves. Wii has sold 3.19 Million world wide which is amazing. The Ps3 won't sell right now but I'm sure it will next year.
| Senshida wrote: |
NOOOO! My brand new Wii is broken!
(Got an error after updating, can't use online functions now)
Now I got to send it to Nintendo to get a new one.  |
That's because you got a Wii Demo System. Stores thought they could sell those systems but they can't. Those systems were meant for demo games only and they can not be updated. You'll have to send it to Nintendo so they can send you a real Wii. 
| falco211 wrote: |
| eLto wrote: | 10 reasons why the PS3 beats all you nintendo fanboys:
1 Nvidia RSX GPU.
2 Cell CPU with 8 dual-cores
3 Bluetooth
4 Blu-Ray (54 GB storage space)
5 Hard drive
6 wireless controllers with motion sensibilty, ergonomically shaped
7 Memory slots for various types of media
8 Support for 7 controllers
9 Plays all sorts of media (mp3, wav, avi, mpg etc.)
10 It looks tons cooler
I know you people like nintendo, and don't get me wrong, so did I, until the N64 came out, still using cartridges. Zelda was GREAT, Goldeneye was GREAT, perfect dark was GREAT, and hell, even diddy kong racing was fun, but nintendo seems to always aim for children and new playing styles, whereas sony (and microsuck) aim for the mainstream masses of multimedia, and therefore get way better performing consoles.
Anyway, that's my opinion, and your opinions are yours. Nothing I can do about it. | I'm sorry but it's not really helping the PS3 right now. I see tons of Ps3s on shelves. Wii has sold 3.19 Million world wide which is amazing. The Ps3 won't sell right now but I'm sure it will next year. |
Not sure where you live, but in California I don't see Wii or PS3s on store shelves.
| falco211 wrote: |
| Senshida wrote: | NOOOO! My brand new Wii is broken!
(Got an error after updating, can't use online functions now)
Now I got to send it to Nintendo to get a new one.  | That's because you got a Wii Demo System. Stores thought they could sell those systems but they can't. Those systems were meant for demo games only and they can not be updated. You'll have to send it to Nintendo so they can send you a real Wii.  |
Well the demo system also needs a Boot Disk to work... silly people trying to sell consoles that aren't made for retail sales.
| QrafTee wrote: |
| falco211 wrote: | | eLto wrote: | 10 reasons why the PS3 beats all you nintendo fanboys:
1 Nvidia RSX GPU.
2 Cell CPU with 8 dual-cores
3 Bluetooth
4 Blu-Ray (54 GB storage space)
5 Hard drive
6 wireless controllers with motion sensibilty, ergonomically shaped
7 Memory slots for various types of media
8 Support for 7 controllers
9 Plays all sorts of media (mp3, wav, avi, mpg etc.)
10 It looks tons cooler
I know you people like nintendo, and don't get me wrong, so did I, until the N64 came out, still using cartridges. Zelda was GREAT, Goldeneye was GREAT, perfect dark was GREAT, and hell, even diddy kong racing was fun, but nintendo seems to always aim for children and new playing styles, whereas sony (and microsuck) aim for the mainstream masses of multimedia, and therefore get way better performing consoles.
Anyway, that's my opinion, and your opinions are yours. Nothing I can do about it. | I'm sorry but it's not really helping the PS3 right now. I see tons of Ps3s on shelves. Wii has sold 3.19 Million world wide which is amazing. The Ps3 won't sell right now but I'm sure it will next year. |
Not sure where you live, but in California I don't see Wii or PS3s on store shelves.
| falco211 wrote: | | Senshida wrote: | NOOOO! My brand new Wii is broken!
(Got an error after updating, can't use online functions now)
Now I got to send it to Nintendo to get a new one.  | That's because you got a Wii Demo System. Stores thought they could sell those systems but they can't. Those systems were meant for demo games only and they can not be updated. You'll have to send it to Nintendo so they can send you a real Wii.  |
Well the demo system also needs a Boot Disk to work... silly people trying to sell consoles that aren't made for retail sales. |
I live in California too. I don't see any on shelves here but people on other forums post pictures of stores near them with a lot of ps3s on shelves.
Everything is sold out around here, though I did see one on display a week ago. Looks rather neat, my kids would love the thing.
datter
| Adam 552 wrote: |
| I really want a Wii, there out of stock everywere though |
I nearly went crazy when I didn't get the Wii on launch day. I got it about four days after its launch. I'm happy that I have it and it's amazing. I hope you do get one soon.
Thanks to friends in gaming stores I finally managed to secure myself a Wii.
My initial doubts still remain, am really worried about the remote's novelty wearing out and becoming an annoyance instead of "woh, cool". I get the feeling though that as soon as a lightsaber based game comes out the Wii remote will quickly become the coolest thing in the world
Zelda is a fantastic game, easily the best non-MMoRPG I've played in a long time. Red Steel is so-so. And Wii Sports with 3 drunken mates is the most fun you can have with your clothes on.
Money well spent and highly reccommended to all 
I got a Wii on November 19th (launch date) and haven't stopped playing it since. I own both a Wii and 360, and haven't switched back to the 360 ever since I plugged in my Wii. (sounds weird, doesn't it?
) Since getting my Wii, I've purchased the following games:
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Wii AND GCN)
Rayman Raving Rabbids
Excite Truck
Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz
Madden 07
Elebits (the storyline is horrible, but the gameplay is awesome)
I've played through both versions of Twilight Princess about 3-4 times each, and can't get enough of any of the other games. I also downloaded a few virtual console games, and those are sometimes more fun than these $50 discs. To me, that's saying graphics really don't mean a thing when it comes to having fun playing video games.
I got a Wii during Christmas day.
The games I got were:
-Rayman Raving Rabbids
-Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
-Metal Slug Anthology
-Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz
-Truama Center: Second Opinion
I also bought Excite Truck outside Christmas, and the game is a blast. It is like Burnout on crack! 
I want one of these but none of the stores around me have one in stock. Well, one does but it's this huge package that comes with like 6 games...and I only want one of them ~_~.
I want to find just the console and get everything on my own so I don't end up buying extra junk, you know?
Darn frenchman that took over the Marketing campaign. I liked the sound of Nintendo Revolution, but nooooo. Now I sound like a 2 year old that needs to go to the bathroom.
| DSGamer3002 wrote: |
I got a Wii on November 19th (launch date) and haven't stopped playing it since. I own both a Wii and 360, and haven't switched back to the 360 ever since I plugged in my Wii. (sounds weird, doesn't it? ) Since getting my Wii, I've purchased the following games:
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Wii AND GCN)
Rayman Raving Rabbids
Excite Truck
Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz
Madden 07
Elebits (the storyline is horrible, but the gameplay is awesome)
I've played through both versions of Twilight Princess about 3-4 times each, and can't get enough of any of the other games. I also downloaded a few virtual console games, and those are sometimes more fun than these $50 discs. To me, that's saying graphics really don't mean a thing when it comes to having fun playing video games. |
| BlazeDragon132 wrote: |
I got a Wii during Christmas day.
The games I got were:
-Rayman Raving Rabbids
-Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
-Metal Slug Anthology
-Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz
-Truama Center: Second Opinion
I also bought Excite Truck outside Christmas, and the game is a blast. It is like Burnout on crack!  |
For the both of you who bought those games, any of them you particularly liked other than LoZ: TP? What's the best multiplayer game out of those games? My friend was looking for a good multiplayer game, but I was only telling him to wait for Super Smash Bros. Brawl...
| QrafTee wrote: |
| BlazeDragon132 wrote: | I got a Wii during Christmas day.
The games I got were:
-Rayman Raving Rabbids
-Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
-Metal Slug Anthology
-Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz
-Truama Center: Second Opinion
I also bought Excite Truck outside Christmas, and the game is a blast. It is like Burnout on crack!  |
For the both of you who bought those games, any of them you particularly liked other than LoZ: TP? What's the best multiplayer game out of those games? My friend was looking for a good multiplayer game, but I was only telling him to wait for Super Smash Bros. Brawl... |
Excite Truck is very fun multiplayer despite being 2 player only.
The best multiplayer I would say is Rayman. The minigames are a blast!
It is not good that I left the component cables back home!
I want to play my Wii now! 
I got a wii, its the only thing really, new. Other than the new games that are out.
| QrafTee wrote: |
| DSGamer3002 wrote: | I got a Wii on November 19th (launch date) and haven't stopped playing it since. I own both a Wii and 360, and haven't switched back to the 360 ever since I plugged in my Wii. (sounds weird, doesn't it? ) Since getting my Wii, I've purchased the following games:
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Wii AND GCN)
Rayman Raving Rabbids
Excite Truck
Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz
Madden 07
Elebits (the storyline is horrible, but the gameplay is awesome)
I've played through both versions of Twilight Princess about 3-4 times each, and can't get enough of any of the other games. I also downloaded a few virtual console games, and those are sometimes more fun than these $50 discs. To me, that's saying graphics really don't mean a thing when it comes to having fun playing video games. |
For the both of you who bought those games, any of them you particularly liked other than LoZ: TP? What's the best multiplayer game out of those games? My friend was looking for a good multiplayer game, but I was only telling him to wait for Super Smash Bros. Brawl... |
Besides TP, which is my favorite out of all of them, I'd have to say I have fun with Rayman Raving Rabbids the second most. It's a very fun game, both single and multiplayer. Next would be Monkey Ball, which is only fun for multiplayer, Excite Truck, and then Madden and Elebits. Elebits' multiplayer is okay, but it's just as fun if you play by yourself. Madden is alright, and I recommend it for any other system because the Wii version, I admit, isn't as good. Excite Truck is just like any other racing game, and those are pretty fun. 
the wii is a great console and then there's the new Zelda game omg i can't wait for mine to come (have to wait 2 months even though we ordered it at the start of December)
Nintendo is my all fave cos it makes stuff you see in movies...they are working on a 3D game station now all the other game consoles are against Nintendo lol they say they should only make games and not consoles ....anyway yeah sorry I'm just go on and on now ^-^
I got a Wii For Christmas, And I've been partying until the day is done, for everyday so far.
i got a wii to and i cant get off it i love the thing the control system is next to none. I think the motion sensors really add something to it that cant be added
to any other consoles and the shape of the remote is perfect for games on it like Zelda where you have to use a sword or wii sports where you have to use a bat. It is by far the best console and i dont think any other conole could beat it not even the the famous ps3.
The games look fun but, I think they lack the depth of the PS3 games
| karumpa wrote: |
| The games look fun but, I think they lack the depth of the PS3 games |
You mean they lack depth with the exception of The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, right?
Wii Sports, fun, no depth, but what did you expect?
The Legend of Zelda is really a superb game, Wii Sports isn't bad! It's a lot of fun and you can work out a sweat!
Super Smash Bros Brawl will defenitely be one of the best games on Wii! 
The Wii is over-rated. The controls are really hard to use and the graphics are definitely behind a bit.
| Pyr0kz1d3 wrote: |
| The Wii is over-rated. The controls are really hard to use and the graphics are definitely behind a bit. |
The controls are hard to use? For what game exactly? Not Wii Sports or Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess for sure. So I'm quite curious since I haven't really tested any third-party games as of yet.
| QrafTee wrote: |
| Pyr0kz1d3 wrote: | | The Wii is over-rated. The controls are really hard to use and the graphics are definitely behind a bit. |
The controls are hard to use? For what game exactly? Not Wii Sports or Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess for sure. So I'm quite curious since I haven't really tested any third-party games as of yet. |
In my opinion the controlers work really well, perfecto! And the graphics might be a bit back, but not bad at all, in my opinion superb! I don't really see what is the reason to try and make them even better, because games are games, and should look like games, not like a movie in my opinion!
Anyway, Wii is great! 
The Wii is awesome. It will be even better when the online games come out later this year. I think all online games will be free too.
| Seiji wrote: |
| The Wii is awesome. It will be even better when the online games come out later this year. I think all online games will be free too. |
Yeah, basically. I just hope they don't run into all those PS3 Network problems.. hoping that the stall on their network is to optimize it so it's 100% at the start.
I think the Wii will definately win the next Console Wars for this generation. My reason for believing so is because a lot of people are starting to realize that Innovation and Gameplay are just as important as better graphics.
The Wii is a revolution to the gaming industry for sure, but all the PS3 has to offer is just prettier graphics. When it comes down to choosing the best Console in this generation, you can't go wrong with a Wii. Plus, they are only at the beginning stages of this system so expect better games to be arriving in the near future. Of course, this is all an opinion.
Well I waited 5 hours on release day. I was number 8 in line at Sears they had 6. I know sucks to be me. Well found out that EB Games and Gamestops were going to have some on Black Friday, Friday after Thanksgiving. Refusing to be denied, my friend, a cooler of beer, sleping bags and I camped outside of EB Games for 11 and a half hours. Needless to say we were 1 and 2 in line. By opening time at 7am the next morning there were 40 + in line waiting. They had 6. Well worth the wait. I have Zelda TP, Madden 07, Marvel Ultimate Alliance, Trauma Center. Looking forward to Wario next week and Super Smash Brothers later this year.
The only downside I have about it is that Nintendo did not account for 4 controllers per console. 4 million consoles = 16 million total remotes. Slight oversight but not a show stopper. I have 3.
The Wii is good and all, but the main problem is that nintendo really didn't do a good enough job in making enough wii's to sell. They ran out of stock in days here and there haven't been any more given out to stores nearby...
I love the wii, Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess is just awesome, wii sports is also fun, and Rayman: Raving Rabbits is a great party game, I love the wii whenever we have some type of family get together.
| ItsWesley wrote: |
| The Wii is good and all, but the main problem is that nintendo really didn't do a good enough job in making enough wii's to sell. They ran out of stock in days here and there haven't been any more given out to stores nearby... |
Umm... wow are you serious? Wiis, almost 4 million. PS3s, around 1 million. Wii was released AFTER the PS3. I think Nintendo is doing a pretty damn good job releasing the Wiis. I mean the 360 would've had the same problem if their consoles sold as well as the Wiis during its launch, but it didn't so no one really complained.
| QrafTee wrote: |
| ItsWesley wrote: | | The Wii is good and all, but the main problem is that nintendo really didn't do a good enough job in making enough wii's to sell. They ran out of stock in days here and there haven't been any more given out to stores nearby... |
Umm... wow are you serious? Wiis, almost 4 million. PS3s, around 1 million. Wii was released AFTER the PS3. I think Nintendo is doing a pretty damn good job releasing the Wiis. I mean the 360 would've had the same problem if their consoles sold as well as the Wiis during its launch, but it didn't so no one really complained. |
I guess people like to try out something new for a change so Wii is perfect for those who want to play games in a new revolutionary way! 
So far it doesn't seem to me to be so much as "I want to play in a revolutionary way" as much as "I want to play." The normal customers are purchasing the sonsole, of course, but it seems that everyone else is interested in actually being able to do something with a console other than be taken aback by the buttons.
Even so, its not like its very 'simple.' Sure, Wii Sports is very easy, but if you look at almost any other game, it requires many buttons and usually the nunchuk. And certain games don't really make good use of the capabilities either.
| wombatrpgs wrote: |
So far it doesn't seem to me to be so much as "I want to play in a revolutionary way" as much as "I want to play." The normal customers are purchasing the sonsole, of course, but it seems that everyone else is interested in actually being able to do something with a console other than be taken aback by the buttons.
Even so, its not like its very 'simple.' Sure, Wii Sports is very easy, but if you look at almost any other game, it requires many buttons and usually the nunchuk. And certain games don't really make good use of the capabilities either. |
Well obviously Nintendo is making most of the "simple" games like Wii Sports and Wii Play. I mean to the casual... very very casual player (not gamer), Wii Sports doesn't lose it's magic for a long long time.
| wombatrpgs wrote: |
So far it doesn't seem to me to be so much as "I want to play in a revolutionary way" as much as "I want to play." The normal customers are purchasing the sonsole, of course, but it seems that everyone else is interested in actually being able to do something with a console other than be taken aback by the buttons.
Even so, its not like its very 'simple.' Sure, Wii Sports is very easy, but if you look at almost any other game, it requires many buttons and usually the nunchuk. And certain games don't really make good use of the capabilities either. |
That's because they want to appeal to the casual gamers. The casuals hardly buy anything with Nintendo written on it. They have to appeal to them in a new way. For the hardcore gamers out there they will have games like Metroid Prime 3, Battalion Wars 2, No More Heroes, Super Mario Galaxy, Sonic and the Secret Rings ect..
Who is looking foward to Sadness or Disaster: Day of Crisis? *raises hand*
you can't really compare the ps3 and the wii. But the worst thing about ps3 is that it doesn't have *awesome* games like HALO series n' other games which are on the 360. The wii is kinda cool because of it's contorller mainly. I'll probably buy the ps3 when the price comes real down!
I didn't really buy the Wii for its controller, more than it is a Nintendo console. If you look at gameplay rather than console capabilites the choices are clear. I personally am a big fan of Super Smash Brothers, Legend of Zelda, and Fire Emblem so I naturally went with the console with those games. It looks like Xbox mainly has Halo...
Wii is most cote 7th generation cute console. I think it will be big success for Nintendo, they deserve it
I'm gonna use mine to lose weight
***LINK!!!***
I have a wii. LOZ:TP Rocks!!!!!!!!!
I have the wii, and I got it on the 19th'.
I would say that online could be beter, but it's free.
And Wii sports rocks, but Elebits would have to be my favorite.
I have Wii Sports, Elebits, Red Steal
, Zelda, and madden.
Can't wait for VC games!
Can't wait for the news channel too!
See ya'
S_K
I wonder if the News Channel will actually get any intraverts into the world... I doubt it. But I know I'll definitely use it.
| SUPER_KNUCKLES wrote: |
I have the wii, and I got it on the 19th'.
I would say that online could be beter, but it's free.
And Wii sports rocks, but Elebits would have to be my favorite.
I have Wii Sports, Elebits, Red Steal , Zelda, and madden.
Can't wait for VC games!
Can't wait for the news channel too!
See ya'
S_K |
Hmm...could you elaborate on what you mean when you say "online could be better"? You're not the first person I've heard this from, and I'm really curious about why this is the case. I don't own a Wii, so I really can't comment on it by experience, but rather from what I've seen; and from what I've seen, it's pretty good.
| william wrote: |
| SUPER_KNUCKLES wrote: | I have the wii, and I got it on the 19th'.
I would say that online could be beter, but it's free.
And Wii sports rocks, but Elebits would have to be my favorite.
I have Wii Sports, Elebits, Red Steal , Zelda, and madden.
Can't wait for VC games!
Can't wait for the news channel too!
See ya'
S_K |
Hmm...could you elaborate on what you mean when you say "online could be better"? You're not the first person I've heard this from, and I'm really curious about why this is the case. I don't own a Wii, so I really can't comment on it by experience, but rather from what I've seen; and from what I've seen, it's pretty good. |
He means using the internet can cause the Wii to freeze... more than once in awhile. Whenever you lose connection, the Wii freezes. And there are currently no online support for the current games while the 360 and the PS3 already have games with online support.
| QrafTee wrote: |
| william wrote: | | SUPER_KNUCKLES wrote: | I have the wii, and I got it on the 19th'.
I would say that online could be beter, but it's free.
And Wii sports rocks, but Elebits would have to be my favorite.
I have Wii Sports, Elebits, Red Steal , Zelda, and madden.
Can't wait for VC games!
Can't wait for the news channel too!
See ya'
S_K |
Hmm...could you elaborate on what you mean when you say "online could be better"? You're not the first person I've heard this from, and I'm really curious about why this is the case. I don't own a Wii, so I really can't comment on it by experience, but rather from what I've seen; and from what I've seen, it's pretty good. |
He means using the internet can cause the Wii to freeze... more than once in awhile. Whenever you lose connection, the Wii freezes. And there are currently no online support for the current games while the 360 and the PS3 already have games with online support. |
Well, I knew about that happening, but I wouldn't really accuse the online service for that.
As for online support for games, sure they don't have any now, but they will.
If those are the only problems one finds with the Wii's online service, then it's really no big deal. But I think the other people who told me the Wii's online service needed improvement were referring to something else. Hmm... 
My dad just got my brother one as a really late Christmas present. He sent it through the mail from Wisconsin. @.@
Does anyone have any recommendations for games other than Twilight Princess?
Smooth Moves is a MUST HAVE game on Wii.
i just bought smooth moves yesterday
i hope i can get on my wii today.
I hear they are releasing Online news on the Wii......thats sounds fun
I can't wait to get into some online gameplay with my Wii.
| Serafina wrote: |
My dad just got my brother one as a really late Christmas present. He sent it through the mail from Wisconsin. @.@
Does anyone have any recommendations for games other than Twilight Princess? |
Red Steel, Elebits, Madden 07, and Warioware are great games.
Well I just got the time to update News channel, pretty awesome.
I still can't believe someone died trying to get a wii. That whole contest "Hold your wee for a wii" what a stupid idea. The lady drank so much water that her cells couldn't hold anymore and shut down. She died from too much water intake! LOL WTH!?
I'm not a huge fan of the wii, but i've never really tried it. It sounds kinda stupid to me. So far someone's died trying to get it and i heard something about the straps on them keep comming lose and breaking things.
| wombatrpgs wrote: |
| Well I just got the time to update News channel, pretty awesome. |
Does the Wii News Channel have an article about the whole Wee Wii thing? Wouldn't that be a little ironic?
| eLto wrote: |
10 reasons why the PS3 beats all you nintendo fanboys:
1 Nvidia RSX GPU.
2 Cell CPU with 8 dual-cores
3 Bluetooth
4 Blu-Ray (54 GB storage space)
5 Hard drive
6 wireless controllers with motion sensibilty, ergonomically shaped
7 Memory slots for various types of media
8 Support for 7 controllers
9 Plays all sorts of media (mp3, wav, avi, mpg etc.)
10 It looks tons cooler
I know you people like nintendo, and don't get me wrong, so did I, until the N64 came out, still using cartridges. Zelda was GREAT, Goldeneye was GREAT, perfect dark was GREAT, and hell, even diddy kong racing was fun, but nintendo seems to always aim for children and new playing styles, whereas sony (and microsuck) aim for the mainstream masses of multimedia, and therefore get way better performing consoles.
Anyway, that's my opinion, and your opinions are yours. Nothing I can do about it. |
yes i know this is a old post but i ahve one thing to say about it... i have a Wii got it for christmas and the fact is Wii sold more than PS3 on the market i mean who would wanna buy something that cost 600$+ when u can get the "pretty much" exact same thing for less i mean its like this... wii has internet "beta" news channel , weather channel, SHop channel "able to buy games from all those old systems and download to wii" it can play nintedo game cube games and the most "funniest in my oppion" is the Mii channel "make ur own character" and it even as friend capabilites....not only that but | Quote: |
| wireless controllers with motion sensibilty, ergonomically shaped |
all wii games are motion controled and wire less..... not to mention | Quote: |
| Memory slots for various types of media and Plays all sorts of media (mp3, wav, avi, mpg etc.) |
wii has that same capabilite and even for photos and video if u have a recorder and a sams card "or what ever u call them"
thats my oppion..... also i beat LOZTP "legend of zelda twilight princess" in 2 days...to be exact...about 48 house with out getting extra crap and no guide....it rules at the moment i am currently at 55 hours of game time cuz i love it so much..
Wii's were meant to be an "impulse" purchase. Also the objective was to make an innovative, yet cost effective gaming platform.
I'd recommend DBZ Tenkaichi 2. It's not strictly for the "fanboys" either. Not only is it a solid fighter, it t takes advantage of the motion sensing abilities of the wii.
That's another thing I've 'noticed' about the Wii games I've seen so far. The controller isn't even used, excepting a few 1st party games, such as Wii Sports/Play and Wario Ware... It almost makes it seems a bit of a nuisance to me actually, as its used for a small, but vital piece of gameplay...
| wombatrpgs wrote: |
| That's another thing I've 'noticed' about the Wii games I've seen so far. The controller isn't even used, excepting a few 1st party games, such as Wii Sports/Play and Wario Ware... It almost makes it seems a bit of a nuisance to me actually, as its used for a small, but vital piece of gameplay... |
Please specify that a little more.
I'm guessing he means that the motion sensing features aren't fully utilized except in the Nintendo developed games. Although it's used quite well in DBZ tenkaichi, which uses the "traditional" buttons for hand to hand and regular combat, while using the motions for flying and special attacks. Madden '07 uses the motion capabilities quite well also. Although I haven't played it, many people have cited it as an innovative madden.
Generally I'd have to agree with his sentiment that it's usually the first party games that make full use of the wiimote and nunchuk's potential.
| wombatrpgs wrote: |
| That's another thing I've 'noticed' about the Wii games I've seen so far. The controller isn't even used, excepting a few 1st party games, such as Wii Sports/Play and Wario Ware... It almost makes it seems a bit of a nuisance to me actually, as its used for a small, but vital piece of gameplay... |
Which games don't use the Wiimote? Have you played every single Wii game out there? Red Steel uses Wiimote (3rd Party), Rayman uses Wiimote (3rd Party), and Elebits uses Wiimote (3rd Party). Oh wait all Wii games out right now use the remote.
| falco211 wrote: |
| wombatrpgs wrote: | | That's another thing I've 'noticed' about the Wii games I've seen so far. The controller isn't even used, excepting a few 1st party games, such as Wii Sports/Play and Wario Ware... It almost makes it seems a bit of a nuisance to me actually, as its used for a small, but vital piece of gameplay... | Which games don't use the Wiimote? Have you played every single Wii game out there? Red Steel uses Wiimote (3rd Party), Rayman uses Wiimote (3rd Party), and Elebits uses Wiimote (3rd Party). Oh wait all Wii games out right now use the remote. |
See, that's why I asked him to specify...
| QrafTee wrote: |
| wombatrpgs wrote: | | That's another thing I've 'noticed' about the Wii games I've seen so far. The controller isn't even used, excepting a few 1st party games, such as Wii Sports/Play and Wario Ware... It almost makes it seems a bit of a nuisance to me actually, as its used for a small, but vital piece of gameplay... |
Please specify that a little more. |
I was mostly thinking of Twilight Princess with this in mind... I've played through once, a really great game, but almost no real use of the controller. It is used for sword atacks, but I can shake it back and forth and a computer controls how I swing. To fish I shake up and down. As long as the controller moves I'm fine. The bow is the only real good use.
Maybe this is just because Twilight Princess is also for the gamecube, but...
It doesn't matter in most of these games how the controller is moved, as long as it is moved. I'm still looking for a game where I can actually control the movement of a sword, or control the actual motion of the charatcer's arm. The potential in most areas in being wasted. I can't say I've played Madden or Elebits, but I have tried a few others: Monkey Ball makes good use, Wii Sports of course makes good use... But these are all in abstract areas, not in a humanoid control. Even Wii Sports is limitted to some extent: I can't really 'control' for example, a tennis swing, its only timing that counts. Motion isn't sensitive enough to really feel in control to a higher level.
On the most part, it appears to me that this technology is being wasted. So far the only real use of the finesse for the controller has been one minigame in Twilight Princess, and I'm terrible at it. What I'm looking for is a game where the the controller's actual path is important, not the general path of motion.
About being a vital piece of gameplay, this I mainly meant thigns like Twilight Princess and Red Steel. The controller is used in such a fashion in the later, that a majority of the time I can go on without a controller, but then I'll have to make some movement to swing a sword somewhere. In Red Steel aiming is very nice, but it seems to be annoying to me to have to use it as a directional pointer. Although that does lead to the newbie syndrome of spinning in a circle...
| falco211 wrote: |
| Which games don't use the Wiimote? Have you played every single Wii game out there? Red Steel uses Wiimote (3rd Party), Rayman uses Wiimote (3rd Party), and Elebits uses Wiimote (3rd Party). Oh wait all Wii games out right now use the remote. |
Of course they 'use' the controller. But is it utilized in a way that is unique and cannot be replaced by a joystick? This axis just isn't being used in the ways it can be: most games use it arbitrarily.
It's true that some Wii games out there dont really use the wii remote or the remote doesnt really mimic you're moves as accurately as it should.
However that will change in many if not all of the upcoming games and
one good reason is "Livemove".
"Livemove" is developed by a company called "Ailive" and in late October of '06 announced a partnership with Nintendo offering the use of their program to developers.
In short "Livemove" is a program developers can purchase and can then eliminate the need to spend weeks writing complicated code for the motion controls. Instead they will use the programs tools to capture motions and unlike most current games the program will allow Gesture specific controls instead of just tilt and accelerometer controls.
IE: swinging the wiimote in Zelda makes Link swing his sword in a set series of swings that do not necessarily mimic you're swings. (The accelerometer triggers this interaction)
With "Livemove": you swing up and down, and so will Link.
Learn more here: http://www.ailive.net/
I'm unimpressed by Wii Sports and Red Steel. However, Zelda is AMAZING. I absolutely love it.
Yes, Zelda IS amazing. I think it's the best game I've ever played honestly.
Anyhoo, about what wombatrpgs was saying about how the Wiimote isn't being used, you have to keep in mind that it hasn't even been 3 months since the Wii was released. Of course the games don't use the Wiimote to its full potential; it's way too early. The developers have had basically just themselves to test out ways to use it over the past couple years, and I think that most of the games that REALLY use the Wiimote are going to come in time as developers (and gamers) become more familiar with the controller.
My 2 cents anyways.
| LoZOwns wrote: |
It's true that some Wii games out there dont really use the wii remote or the remote doesnt really mimic you're moves as accurately as it should.
However that will change in many if not all of the upcoming games and
one good reason is "Livemove".
"Livemove" is developed by a company called "Ailive" and in late October of '06 announced a partnership with Nintendo offering the use of their program to developers.
In short "Livemove" is a program developers can purchase and can then eliminate the need to spend weeks writing complicated code for the motion controls. Instead they will use the programs tools to capture motions and unlike most current games the program will allow Gesture specific controls instead of just tilt and accelerometer controls.
IE: swinging the wiimote in Zelda makes Link swing his sword in a set series of swings that do not necessarily mimic you're swings. (The accelerometer triggers this interaction)
With "Livemove": you swing up and down, and so will Link.
Learn more here: http://www.ailive.net/ |
That's much more what I was expecting from Nintendo, and much more what the Wii was supposed to be. I didn't realize the mapping of the controller in a path was unavailable but hopefully this will increase the quality of use.
The Wii is pretty sweet, the graphics really suck but the games are fun anyway.. It's just another concept..
| wombatrpgs wrote: |
| LoZOwns wrote: | It's true that some Wii games out there dont really use the wii remote or the remote doesnt really mimic you're moves as accurately as it should.
However that will change in many if not all of the upcoming games and
one good reason is "Livemove".
"Livemove" is developed by a company called "Ailive" and in late October of '06 announced a partnership with Nintendo offering the use of their program to developers.
In short "Livemove" is a program developers can purchase and can then eliminate the need to spend weeks writing complicated code for the motion controls. Instead they will use the programs tools to capture motions and unlike most current games the program will allow Gesture specific controls instead of just tilt and accelerometer controls.
IE: swinging the wiimote in Zelda makes Link swing his sword in a set series of swings that do not necessarily mimic you're swings. (The accelerometer triggers this interaction)
With "Livemove": you swing up and down, and so will Link.
Learn more here: http://www.ailive.net/ |
That's much more what I was expecting from Nintendo, and much more what the Wii was supposed to be. I didn't realize the mapping of the controller in a path was unavailable but hopefully this will increase the quality of use. |
Yeah, I read that AiLive thing and I'm very happy about it. I know how hard it would be to code movement because I code simple DOS programs (for class) and it's rather time consuming as it is.
My friends and I are psyched that this AiLive thing will make the games more realistic and we, also, expected it to be that way from the beginning.
| Coclus wrote: |
| The Wii is pretty sweet, the graphics really suck but the games are fun anyway.. It's just another concept.. |
Man, the graphics are great, not superb but good!
It's so much about how much you expect from the graphics.

| Serafina wrote: |
My dad just got my brother one as a really late Christmas present. He sent it through the mail from Wisconsin. @.@
Does anyone have any recommendations for games other than Twilight Princess? |
WarioWare: Smooth Moves is great, but it got average reviews. I liked it personally.
I don't own a Wii, but I will hopefully be getting one soon. I've played WarioWare, Twilight Princess, and Wii Sports so far. I'm also interested in Wii Play and Super Mario Galaxy.
I've got Wario Ware and, in short, it's amazing!
However, there are a couple of things I felt were wrong with it.
1) In the Temple of Form, you only play the game once for each level. They would have done much better to do once for each level, then upgrade a speed and go back to level one; rinse and repeat, trying to get a high score.
2) After beating the level 3 form of the boss, you don't get any of the "speed up!" thing. It's nothing major, but I think it would have been better with it in.
| Fire Boar wrote: |
I've got Wario Ware and, in short, it's amazing!
However, there are a couple of things I felt were wrong with it.
1) In the Temple of Form, you only play the game once for each level. They would have done much better to do once for each level, then upgrade a speed and go back to level one; rinse and repeat, trying to get a high score.
2) After beating the level 3 form of the boss, you don't get any of the "speed up!" thing. It's nothing major, but I think it would have been better with it in. |
How would you rate Wario Ware from 1 to 10?
Is it a great gaming experience?
Have to say that Wii is rather a positive step in game development, since for a change someone focused on controllers and things linked to that instead of just morosely pushing graphics plank further upwards... Mah hat goes off to the folk from Nintendo for getting something innovative out to the market - and my money will go to them as well once the game library starts looking a tad more full than it is now.
| moonblade wrote: |
| Have to say that Wii is rather a positive step in game development, since for a change someone focused on controllers and things linked to that instead of just morosely pushing graphics plank further upwards... Mah hat goes off to the folk from Nintendo for getting something innovative out to the market - and my money will go to them as well once the game library starts looking a tad more full than it is now. |
Yeah, but you gotta admit graphics is nice too, right? I just want Nintendo to stop beating away the third-party companies with a monkeywrench. All third-party companies don't want to compete against Nintendo.
| QrafTee wrote: |
| All third-party companies don't want to compete against Nintendo. |
Yes, but Nintendo has to be careful too. If Wii wouldn't have been such a success as it has now turned to be, Nintendo could have gone bankrupt. So Nintendo needs to be careful, since Sony and Microsoft are such tough competetors! 
| QrafTee wrote: |
| All third-party companies don't want to compete against Nintendo. |
By third party do you mean Microsoft and Sony, or smaller venues? Because if you're trying to imply Nintendo is too successful and has some sort of strangle-hold on the market, I don't think that's accurate. And I would say the reverse of the situation described is true: Nintendo doesn't want to 'compete' against Microsoft and Sony, they want to "Revolutionize" their genre. (Thus the project name.)
| wombatrpgs wrote: |
| QrafTee wrote: | | All third-party companies don't want to compete against Nintendo. |
By third party do you mean Microsoft and Sony, or smaller venues? Because if you're trying to imply Nintendo is too successful and has some sort of strangle-hold on the market, I don't think that's accurate. And I would say the reverse of the situation described is true: Nintendo doesn't want to 'compete' against Microsoft and Sony, they want to "Revolutionize" their genre. (Thus the project name.) |
I believe there was a short exerpt in EGM (last year) which the president of some company (I think Konami or Namco... or neither) said that the biggest competition you have going against you when you're making a game for a Nintendo console is Nintendo.
Well i daresay that currently the WII is the best console. It has a very good collection of games, is pretty cheap, easily available, and more importantly, has the intutive controller, for which there is actually quite some demand. And yea, nintendo is the first enemy for every game developer, and that puts it at a great disadvantage. But i dont think that is an issue with the wii. Its going strong, and to me, is the winner of the current console wars
| photon wrote: |
| Well i daresay that currently the WII is the best console. It has a very good collection of games, is pretty cheap, easily available, and more importantly, has the intutive controller, for which there is actually quite some demand. And yea, nintendo is the first enemy for every game developer, and that puts it at a great disadvantage. But i dont think that is an issue with the wii. Its going strong, and to me, is the winner of the current console wars |
I completely agree with you Photon! My opinions are exactly the same as yours! It is really nice that people still love the good old Big N!
Has anyone heard any news of SSBB? Just can't wait for it! 
| QrafTee wrote: |
I believe there was a short exerpt in EGM (last year) which the president of some company (I think Konami or Namco... or neither) said that the biggest competition you have going against you when you're making a game for a Nintendo console is Nintendo. |
Than that would be for Konami and Namco. It doesn't really make sense for Microsoft to make a game for a Nintendo system, which is why I asked if you meant third party as in smaller game makers or thir party as in removed makers like Microsoft and Sony competing mainly by console.
| Whong wrote: |
| Fire Boar wrote: | I've got Wario Ware and, in short, it's amazing!
However, there are a couple of things I felt were wrong with it.
1) In the Temple of Form, you only play the game once for each level. They would have done much better to do once for each level, then upgrade a speed and go back to level one; rinse and repeat, trying to get a high score.
2) After beating the level 3 form of the boss, you don't get any of the "speed up!" thing. It's nothing major, but I think it would have been better with it in. |
How would you rate Wario Ware from 1 to 10?
Is it a great gaming experience? |
I'm not very good at rating things on a scale... I'd go between 8 and 9, I suppose. I can break that down a bit:
Summary of what it's about:
Basically, there is no real storyline at all. You simply pick a character (each has a different group of microgames) and play. You are shown the "form" you will be using (ie. how you need to hold the 'mote), then it launches straight into the microgame. Complete it, and it moves onto the next. Again, you are shown the "form" you'll need. And so on. Periodically, the game will speed up, getting faster and faster. After about 10-20 games (it varies between characters) there will be a boss stage. These tend to last longer and are more difficult. But if you win, you gain a life (up to the maximum of four). After each boss stage, the microgames all get harder. Screw up on any of the games and you lose a life; it's game over when you lose all four.
Good bits:
- It's funny. And I mean laugh-out-loud funny, not vague chuckle funny.
- It's addictive. Really addictive gameplay that makes you keep wanting to go back and get a better score.
- Great variety. There are over 180 microgames, I think.
- It gets insane! Each microgame lasts only a few "ticks" (on the slowest speed, 1 tick is half a second), and you barely have time to change form before going onto the next when the speed gets really hectic.
- 12 player multiplayer mode means that nobody gets left out.
Bad bits:
- "Completing" the game is no tough feat, and can be done within a few hours. You only have to finish one boss stage with each character.
- It's not the sort of game you spend a lot of time on; more the sort to dip into.
- It makes you look very very silly.
Ok, thanks Fire Boar. That gave me an idea of the game.

So I can't wait to finally get to play the Wii. I'm going to visit my friends in my hometown this week and two of them have Wiis. I've been wanting one since before they came out and just haven't had any luck in finding one. I refuse to pay anything over retail for one, so I just have to hope I stumble upon one whenever I go to Target or Best Buy or whatever.
So it seems to me that the Wii is definitely the best of the consoles. I haven't played any of the next gen consoles, but it just seems to me like the Wii is just far beyond the 360 or the PS3. Not necessarily in terms of hardware or graphics, but in overall enjoyability. It seems to reach a much broader audience then the other consoles, in a similar fashion as the DS has done for handhelds.
I myself have always loved Nintendo (never owned any system but Nintendo and have owned them all except the Wii and a few of the handhelds.) In the past, I've felt I had to defend them against attacks from Sony and Microsoft lovers, but now I don't feel like I have to.
So anyone have any favorite games for the Wii? I'm excited for the sports and Wario Ware, as well as Zelda of course. Any others I should watch out for?
I would like to say that the Wii is better because I've tried it before, but other than that, I wouldn't know. I've never tried the other consoles, so I should remain neutral on this.
| Satori wrote: |
So I can't wait to finally get to play the Wii. I'm going to visit my friends in my hometown this week and two of them have Wiis. I've been wanting one since before they came out and just haven't had any luck in finding one. I refuse to pay anything over retail for one, so I just have to hope I stumble upon one whenever I go to Target or Best Buy or whatever.
So it seems to me that the Wii is definitely the best of the consoles. I haven't played any of the next gen consoles, but it just seems to me like the Wii is just far beyond the 360 or the PS3. Not necessarily in terms of hardware or graphics, but in overall enjoyability. It seems to reach a much broader audience then the other consoles, in a similar fashion as the DS has done for handhelds.
I myself have always loved Nintendo (never owned any system but Nintendo and have owned them all except the Wii and a few of the handhelds.) In the past, I've felt I had to defend them against attacks from Sony and Microsoft lovers, but now I don't feel like I have to.
So anyone have any favorite games for the Wii? I'm excited for the sports and Wario Ware, as well as Zelda of course. Any others I should watch out for? |
Currently, I'm looking forward to Super Smash Bros Brawl. My favorite game so far? Definitely Wii Sports.
| QrafTee wrote: |
| Satori wrote: | So I can't wait to finally get to play the Wii. I'm going to visit my friends in my hometown this week and two of them have Wiis. I've been wanting one since before they came out and just haven't had any luck in finding one. I refuse to pay anything over retail for one, so I just have to hope I stumble upon one whenever I go to Target or Best Buy or whatever.
So it seems to me that the Wii is definitely the best of the consoles. I haven't played any of the next gen consoles, but it just seems to me like the Wii is just far beyond the 360 or the PS3. Not necessarily in terms of hardware or graphics, but in overall enjoyability. It seems to reach a much broader audience then the other consoles, in a similar fashion as the DS has done for handhelds.
I myself have always loved Nintendo (never owned any system but Nintendo and have owned them all except the Wii and a few of the handhelds.) In the past, I've felt I had to defend them against attacks from Sony and Microsoft lovers, but now I don't feel like I have to.
So anyone have any favorite games for the Wii? I'm excited for the sports and Wario Ware, as well as Zelda of course. Any others I should watch out for? |
Currently, I'm looking forward to Super Smash Bros Brawl. My favorite game so far? Definitely Wii Sports. |
Yeah! Super Smash Bro Brawl is definitely one of the most awaited games. Does anyone know when it will be released? 
| Whong wrote: |
| QrafTee wrote: | | Satori wrote: | So I can't wait to finally get to play the Wii. I'm going to visit my friends in my hometown this week and two of them have Wiis. I've been wanting one since before they came out and just haven't had any luck in finding one. I refuse to pay anything over retail for one, so I just have to hope I stumble upon one whenever I go to Target or Best Buy or whatever.
So it seems to me that the Wii is definitely the best of the consoles. I haven't played any of the next gen consoles, but it just seems to me like the Wii is just far beyond the 360 or the PS3. Not necessarily in terms of hardware or graphics, but in overall enjoyability. It seems to reach a much broader audience then the other consoles, in a similar fashion as the DS has done for handhelds.
I myself have always loved Nintendo (never owned any system but Nintendo and have owned them all except the Wii and a few of the handhelds.) In the past, I've felt I had to defend them against attacks from Sony and Microsoft lovers, but now I don't feel like I have to.
So anyone have any favorite games for the Wii? I'm excited for the sports and Wario Ware, as well as Zelda of course. Any others I should watch out for? |
Currently, I'm looking forward to Super Smash Bros Brawl. My favorite game so far? Definitely Wii Sports. |
Yeah! Super Smash Bro Brawl is definitely one of the most awaited games. Does anyone know when it will be released?  |
They said it would be released sometime in Q3 2007. So soon !!
| Wish4Me wrote: |
| Whong wrote: | | QrafTee wrote: | | Satori wrote: | So I can't wait to finally get to play the Wii. I'm going to visit my friends in my hometown this week and two of them have Wiis. I've been wanting one since before they came out and just haven't had any luck in finding one. I refuse to pay anything over retail for one, so I just have to hope I stumble upon one whenever I go to Target or Best Buy or whatever.
So it seems to me that the Wii is definitely the best of the consoles. I haven't played any of the next gen consoles, but it just seems to me like the Wii is just far beyond the 360 or the PS3. Not necessarily in terms of hardware or graphics, but in overall enjoyability. It seems to reach a much broader audience then the other consoles, in a similar fashion as the DS has done for handhelds.
I myself have always loved Nintendo (never owned any system but Nintendo and have owned them all except the Wii and a few of the handhelds.) In the past, I've felt I had to defend them against attacks from Sony and Microsoft lovers, but now I don't feel like I have to.
So anyone have any favorite games for the Wii? I'm excited for the sports and Wario Ware, as well as Zelda of course. Any others I should watch out for? |
Currently, I'm looking forward to Super Smash Bros Brawl. My favorite game so far? Definitely Wii Sports. |
Yeah! Super Smash Bro Brawl is definitely one of the most awaited games. Does anyone know when it will be released?  |
They said it would be released sometime in Q3 2007. So soon !! |
That's great, just can't wait for it!
I wish it would have a looooooooooot of characters! 
Oh yeah. I still don't know why they put snake in it though... o_O
| LinkinPink wrote: |
| Oh yeah. I still don't know why they put snake in it though... o_O |
Creator of SSB and creator of MGS are friends, that's why.
I'm getting Sonic tomorrow. I hope it'll be good. I wish Super Smash Bros. would come out already.
| Seiji wrote: |
| I'm getting Sonic tomorrow. I hope it'll be good. I wish Super Smash Bros. would come out already. |
Well word is Sonic and the Secret Rings breaks the Sonic Curse that Sega seemed to have been a victim to.
Some people didn't like the 3D sonics.. (I did)
But now, many people think Secret Rings is the best 3D sonic.
Meh... 3D killed Sonic. Actually, it wasn't so much of the dimensional effect to gameplay as much as the re-marketting of one of our favorite characters. I was very in to Sonic 1, 2, 3, and Knuckles, beating all of them to their limits, and then decided to boot up Sadventure 2 only to find Tails having the voiceover of a six year old, Sonic becoming some sort of one-dimensional sappy hero, and probably the worst Knuckles cast as some sort of ghetto rapper. Really.
I haven't tried Secret Rings, but if it lacks the elements of being marketted to ages <10 I might try it. SA2:B spoiled the 3ds for me. (Although I here Heroes was even worse)
"That's great, just can't wait for it! Very Happy
I wish it would have a looooooooooot of characters"
-There will be a lot.
"Oh yeah. I still don't know why they put snake in it though... o_O"
-Because snake is awesome.... o_O; Duh!
"I haven't tried Secret Rings, but if it lacks the elements of being marketted to ages <10 I might try it. SA2:B spoiled the 3ds for me. (Although I here Heroes was even worse)"
-Yeah it was. But I am hearing nothing but good from the new sonic. It has been completely redesigned and it looks great.
I can't wait for SSBB. Melee was one of my favorite GC games, and by far the best party game available for the system.
"I can't wait for SSBB. Melee was one of my favorite GC games, and by far the best party game available for the system."
Me either. Super smash brothers melee was one of the greatest fighting games of all time. It had balance and features. A great single player and is probably one of the best multiplayer ever if not for no online. Imagine SSB online with online tournaments. Im damn near positive the game will have a pro gaming level on that of or better than even Madden does. I really really cannot wait for it to come out and I hope they dont disapoint with a shitty game. They wont though because too many big hopes are on the game.
But yeah imagine if nintendo made games for other systems. ;P If not just a hardware company they are one of the best software companies out there.
I wouldn't be surprised if it were a very good game. Even rushed SSBM was excellent. A rush would hurt Brawl, but its not happenning. It was slated to be a launch title at first, and that didn't exactly happenned. It'll be worth the wait; most delayed games are. Just think of what Miyamoto did for Kirby.
| wombatrpgs wrote: |
| I wouldn't be surprised if it were a very good game. Even rushed SSBM was excellent. A rush would hurt Brawl, but its not happenning. It was slated to be a launch title at first, and that didn't exactly happenned. It'll be worth the wait; most delayed games are. Just think of what Miyamoto did for Kirby. |
I'm glad that we were told to keep our GCN controllers because I have 4 of them, in pretty good shape. (original controller with GCN and a second one died on me, it was horrible)
| QrafTee wrote: |
I'm glad that we were told to keep our GCN controllers because I have 4 of them, in pretty good shape. (original controller with GCN and a second one died on me, it was horrible) |
Judging by past uses of the controller, (see previous rant), this should improve the quality than it would be with arbitrary commands assigned to an accelorometer.
It seemed to me the original GCN controller was the hardiest. You never saw those for resale, and I've never seen one broken. On the other hand, my MadCatz controller's B button doesn't work, and I know a friend who's brother decided to chew off part of a control stick and then played with syruppy fingers. At the age of ten.
wii rules love it so much i think id die with out it 
I Love the wii I have test it and it was really good !!!!
Tim Prod Baby !!!!
| Satori wrote: |
So I can't wait to finally get to play the Wii. I'm going to visit my friends in my hometown this week and two of them have Wiis. I've been wanting one since before they came out and just haven't had any luck in finding one. I refuse to pay anything over retail for one, so I just have to hope I stumble upon one whenever I go to Target or Best Buy or whatever.
So it seems to me that the Wii is definitely the best of the consoles. I haven't played any of the next gen consoles, but it just seems to me like the Wii is just far beyond the 360 or the PS3. Not necessarily in terms of hardware or graphics, but in overall enjoyability. It seems to reach a much broader audience then the other consoles, in a similar fashion as the DS has done for handhelds.
I myself have always loved Nintendo (never owned any system but Nintendo and have owned them all except the Wii and a few of the handhelds.) In the past, I've felt I had to defend them against attacks from Sony and Microsoft lovers, but now I don't feel like I have to.
So anyone have any favorite games for the Wii? I'm excited for the sports and Wario Ware, as well as Zelda of course. Any others I should watch out for? |
So I played wii sports, wii play, and wario ware mostly while I was there. The balance block game in wario ware was addicting like crack. I played it once and then had to play all 50 levels without stopping. I spent about 20-25 minutes on just level 50. Bowling is my favorite of the wii sports. Wii play has air hockey and ping pong (both incredibly addictive) as well as others that were not quite as cool to me.
Overall, the wii rocks. I LOVED making a Mii for myself. I hadn't even heard about that option and it's crazy how much you can make them look like you! All my friends had Miis that all looked just like them. It took me a good 20-30 minutes to get it just right.
Can't wait to get my own...now I just have yet to find one on the shelf!
| Satori wrote: |
| Satori wrote: | So I can't wait to finally get to play the Wii. I'm going to visit my friends in my hometown this week and two of them have Wiis. I've been wanting one since before they came out and just haven't had any luck in finding one. I refuse to pay anything over retail for one, so I just have to hope I stumble upon one whenever I go to Target or Best Buy or whatever.
So it seems to me that the Wii is definitely the best of the consoles. I haven't played any of the next gen consoles, but it just seems to me like the Wii is just far beyond the 360 or the PS3. Not necessarily in terms of hardware or graphics, but in overall enjoyability. It seems to reach a much broader audience then the other consoles, in a similar fashion as the DS has done for handhelds.
I myself have always loved Nintendo (never owned any system but Nintendo and have owned them all except the Wii and a few of the handhelds.) In the past, I've felt I had to defend them against attacks from Sony and Microsoft lovers, but now I don't feel like I have to.
So anyone have any favorite games for the Wii? I'm excited for the sports and Wario Ware, as well as Zelda of course. Any others I should watch out for? |
So I played wii sports, wii play, and wario ware mostly while I was there. The balance block game in wario ware was addicting like crack. I played it once and then had to play all 50 levels without stopping. I spent about 20-25 minutes on just level 50. Bowling is my favorite of the wii sports. Wii play has air hockey and ping pong (both incredibly addictive) as well as others that were not quite as cool to me.
Overall, the wii rocks. I LOVED making a Mii for myself. I hadn't even heard about that option and it's crazy how much you can make them look like you! All my friends had Miis that all looked just like them. It took me a good 20-30 minutes to get it just right.
Can't wait to get my own...now I just have yet to find one on the shelf! |
I still say the Nintendo should send updates to the Mii software... But it might be hard because they put so little flash memory inside the Wii... *sigh*
Well I finally bought Zelda: TP. I'm probably the only one who owns a Wii that hasn't played it. I haven't started it yet since I'm busy with other things.
| Seiji wrote: |
| Well I finally bought Zelda: TP. I'm probably the only one who owns a Wii that hasn't played it. I haven't started it yet since I'm busy with other things. |
Well I've already started playing and have played quite a bit of Zelda Twilight Princess, but haven't been able to play for a while because my studies take sooooooooooooooooo much time.
Well there will come days when I can just play peacefully without worrying about studies! 
^I was able to play a little bit of it today. Its fun so far first game I've ever played where you can ride on a horse. Last Zelda I played was the one that was on the Gameboy Advanced.
| Seiji wrote: |
| ^I was able to play a little bit of it today. Its fun so far first game I've ever played where you can ride on a horse. Last Zelda I played was the one that was on the Gameboy Advanced. |
WII rules, Car driving is now more than a thumb workout. Still need to play wII sports
| enygmasoft wrote: |
| Seiji wrote: | | ^I was able to play a little bit of it today. Its fun so far first game I've ever played where you can ride on a horse. Last Zelda I played was the one that was on the Gameboy Advanced. |
WII rules, Car driving is now more than a thumb workout. Still need to play wII sports |
Wii Sports is just great! It is a really nice game with so many different things. Tennis is really fun! 
Has anyone been successful connecting with Batel WifiMax Dongle. I bought it today for $40 and couldn't get it to work. After searching for awhile on the internet I saw lots of bad reviews.
Has any date been given for the release of Super Mario Galaxy?
I hope it would come soon, it looks very interesting! 
^^^Mario Galaxy hasn't been given a date yet ^^^
I can't wait for Super Paper Mario to come out. It looks absolutely amazing! It's the only game for Wii that I'm looking forward to the next three months. I think Nintendos 4th Quarter will be the best because that is when a lot of the good games come out and it's during the holidays when people start buying.
| Seiji wrote: |
| Well I finally bought Zelda: TP. I'm probably the only one who owns a Wii that hasn't played it. I haven't started it yet since I'm busy with other things. |
I made it to the sixth dungeon and became very bored with that game, I still haven't beaten it. It appears to me to be very overrated, mainly due to how incredibly easy and straight forward it is. I can't say I've died yet, but it has become very dull. I felt like doing a few of the 'sidequests' only to find most either involved running around a field for hours looking for bugs or were very short and uninteresting. I'll finish later; there are much better things to do.
^I'm still at the beginning of the game and nothing yet has motivated me to play it. I'll keep playing anyway and just hope it gets better as I go along. I never finished the last Zelda game I had so I want to be able to finish this one at least.
| Seiji wrote: |
| ^I'm still at the beginning of the game and nothing yet has motivated me to play it. I'll keep playing anyway and just hope it gets better as I go along. I never finished the last Zelda game I had so I want to be able to finish this one at least. |
I heard the beginning of the game is extremely slow so just bear with it.
I've had my wii since Christmas along with red steel, exite truck, and LoZ TP, i enjoyed exite truck alot, the wiimote plays well for driving games, red steel ..... i haven't liked it mainly because the controls are wonky and its a tad dull. LoZ TP i enjoyed fully i haven't beatin it yet but i do like how it has alot of old school play from OoT and many references to it ingame. I have not been disappointed with it, and those idiots who complain about the strap .... DON'T LET GO OF THE WIIMOTE WHEN YA SWING DUMB ASS!!!!!!!!! now that, that is outta the way. I want to talk about Sonic and the Secret Rings, and the sonic franchise all in one. Ever since SA2 for the DC the series has kind of gone down hill, this sonic game brings back what the sonic games are about, Speed and Strategy. The different characters from the sonic series make cameos as the characters of the Arabian nights tales. I havent gotten very far but its been fun so far :3
| QrafTee wrote: |
I heard the beginning of the game is extremely slow so just bear with it. |
I thought the beginning few dungeons were the best, personally... The designers weren't trying to pull something that felt fake...
| wombatrpgs wrote: |
| QrafTee wrote: |
I heard the beginning of the game is extremely slow so just bear with it. |
I thought the beginning few dungeons were the best, personally... The designers weren't trying to pull something that felt fake... |
In my opinion the beginning is a bit slow, but it's ok. It's a great game! 
So is there anyone on here that's been complaining about their wii? IF so, I'll buy it from you
Can't find one of those things anywhere on a shelf! And I refuse to pay more than $250 for a new one.
Guess I'll just have to wait it out!
| Satori wrote: |
So is there anyone on here that's been complaining about their wii? IF so, I'll buy it from you
Can't find one of those things anywhere on a shelf! And I refuse to pay more than $250 for a new one.
Guess I'll just have to wait it out! |
You are more than likely to have to wait it out then... (most likely until May..)
People are going crazy over it. xD
| Satori wrote: |
So is there anyone on here that's been complaining about their wii? IF so, I'll buy it from you
Can't find one of those things anywhere on a shelf! And I refuse to pay more than $250 for a new one.
Guess I'll just have to wait it out! |
Use wiihunt to locate on. Its a Target retail store tracker and shows if they have them or not. If you call up the store and a employee tells you no and the tracker shows them in stock go anyway because its 90% chance they have them.
i want to sell my wii i need the money how much would i get if i took it into say gamestation do anyone know?
u guys are pretty lucky...here wii hasn`t come as of yet in teh markets... have to bear wit teh`other ol` consoles
BTW teh reviews weren`t that gr8 fer wii it seems ??
| gutbomb wrote: |
u guys are pretty lucky...here wii hasn`t come as of yet in teh markets... have to bear wit teh`other ol` consoles
BTW teh reviews weren`t that gr8 fer wii it seems ?? |
Translation: You guys are pretty lucky... here the Wii hasn't come out yet in the markets... I'll have to make do with the other old consoles.
By the way, it seems that the reviews for the Wii weren't that great. Any idea why?
As for Warlord, if you've got a Wii you have one of two things. If you enjoy playing great games you have the perfect console with huge potential. If not, you have a great console that plenty of people will pay the full retail price for second-hand. Your best bet is somewhere like eBay if you really want to sell it.
Selling could well be a grave mistake, though.
hmmm.. whats with the transalation and all ??
was that post soo not understandable ??
anyone planning to get mario party? i know i am
Anyone find the sensor-bar annoying? Is it best to put it above or below the tv?
| Seiji wrote: |
| Anyone find the sensor-bar annoying? Is it best to put it above or below the tv? |
If you want you can just use a candle... but it's more dangerous.
Just got Wario Ware: Smooth Moves. Now THAT'S what the Wii was meant to be like! I used to value the Wario Land series more, (pre-IV,) but this seems to be the only game I've seen so far to really take advantage of the uniquity of the Wii. The series, unlike many others, is really designed for a console like this. Great job.
| Whong wrote: |
Has any date been given for the release of Super Mario Galaxy?
I hope it would come soon, it looks very interesting!  |
Unfortunately, we are left in the dark. Gamestop still does not take reservations on this game yet. I went into get that game reserved, and they dont have sku info yet, as of Monday last week. I ended up with Spider Man 3, money well spent and the wii control will be interesting.
| Warlord wrote: |
| i want to sell my wii i need the money how much would i get if i took it into say gamestation do anyone know? |
Most places I try this at typically give you store credit.
try ebay.
There is news that the first online game will be Pokemon. I guess that will be sort of fun since Pokemon was pretty fun on the GBA.
| Seiji wrote: |
| There is news that the first online game will be Pokemon. I guess that will be sort of fun since Pokemon was pretty fun on the GBA. |
Yeah, I heard. I wont be getting that, I'll wait for SSBB or Battalion Wars II instead.
BTW, I almost regret I bought Wario Ware Inc, it got boring pretty quick. It was kinda too short. Right now I haven't got money for any new games..
I like the nintendo wii but the features with the new controller seem a bit gimmikie. But it sure seems like a great load of fun to play, even though a new control scheme has been put in.
I got my hands on a Wii with Twilight Princess some days ago and I must say that it is even better than I predicted. Most of the wii sports games are very entertaining and Zelda.. Yes it may be a bit slow in the beginning but I had nothing against it, it was a wonderful game all the way through 
One of my friends has Wii. He says that Raymans Raving Rabbids is a great game. He told me about it, and now i think that i HAVE TO buy Wii!
(Raymans Raving Rabbids has PC version too, i suppose. But Wiimote is always better than keyboard)
I just picked up a Nintendo Wifi USB Connector for my Wii and I can't even get it to work. It feels like $30 went to waste on it.
| Seiji wrote: |
| There is news that the first online game will be Pokemon. I guess that will be sort of fun since Pokemon was pretty fun on the GBA. |
That's one of the games I think would really benefit from online capabilities. If anyone else here has used NetBattle at all, it really utilizes the best features of the game in a rapid style multiplayer. Strategy becomes much more prominent than it does in single player. The only downside I can see is that they may try to force single-player parties into online parties and strategy would die to overlevelling etc.
Apart from that SSBB is another online-needing game. That game would just be inclomplete without utilizing the WiFi for some sort of mulitplayer.
agreed. this function no doubt will force people to team up, and that may pose a problem. lets cross our fingers and hope that this wont happen
but how can nintendo utilise the wiis functions such that even the 'interactivity' aspect is inciorporated into all its games? it seems like a great waste of money and time if the feature is not fully made use of.
wii is almost seen as the underdog by some people in the console race. ps3 and xbox are most widely advertised, while the wiis advertisment is minimal. although ppl who have tested both wii and ps3 have said that the wii was better. the interactivity is a main selling point, and against the playstation's multi-use feature and the xbox's , i dunno, xboxlive features, the wii stands a very good chance.
the wiis new technology is almost ground-breaking, as more and more people are looking for more bang for their buck. it allows a myraid of possibilites. its like the special arcade additions, like a gun you could get lets say you bought time crisis on you ps2. unfortunately, for me those didnt work half the time. i have not yet got to test the wii, and do not know the connectivity strengh, but it is very promising, all in one controller.
The connectivity strength is good. There are moments that the Wii Remote will not respond, but that's usually during navigation of the channels which gives you time to reconnect the remote to the console. Still a shame Nintendo did not use a rechargeable battery with USB charging qualities though.
I agree that SSB needs to be another online game. I'm hoping since Pokemon will be released in June that by that time they can have games like Madden online too. Super Mario Galaxy is supposedly coming out soon and will probably be the best game on the Wii and the best game this decade. So Wii owners have a lot to look forward to this year.
| Seiji wrote: |
| I agree that SSB needs to be another online game. I'm hoping since Pokemon will be released in June that by that time they can have games like Madden online too. Super Mario Galaxy is supposedly coming out soon and will probably be the best game on the Wii and the best game this decade. So Wii owners have a lot to look forward to this year. |
Yeah... both of those hit games have no release dates with rumors saying Galaxy will be released 4th Quarter '07 or later and SSBB being released after Galaxy... Yipes...
At least they will be out this year. Miyamoto said that Galaxy will available for play this year. That says enough for me. It takes him a long time to make games because he is somewhat of a perfectionist that is probably why the previous games were so good.
So now with "Mario & Sonic at the Olympics" Sonic is probably a shoe-in for Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Now that'd be interesting, Solid Snake and Sonic the Hedgehog... Perhaps they should be able to fuse into a new character too, Sonic Snake, oh yeah... my imagination's running wild now.
I heard that the Nintendo Wii's aren't shipping right now. I don't know if it is true or not but that is what I heard. I hope they begin to ship them soon so I can get one to play.
| acellama88 wrote: |
| I heard that the Nintendo Wii's aren't shipping right now. I don't know if it is true or not but that is what I heard. I hope they begin to ship them soon so I can get one to play. |
Rumors that Nintendo is purposely not shipping Wiis are false. They're even looking for another manufacturing partner to get more Wiis out to the public.
| QrafTee wrote: |
| So now with "Mario & Sonic at the Olympics" Sonic is probably a shoe-in for Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Now that'd be interesting, Solid Snake and Sonic the Hedgehog... Perhaps they should be able to fuse into a new character too, Sonic Snake, oh yeah... my imagination's running wild now. |
I'm not sure that the arrival of 3rd party characters signals that Sonic will be included. If that was already decided at the time of the trailer, (as 3rd party characters must have been at that time), then Sonic would've been the most obvious pick to feature in the trailer, not Snake. Or perhaps that just hadn't been settled yet. But I would say that it does look promising...
| acellama88 wrote: |
| I heard that the Nintendo Wii's aren't shipping right now. I don't know if it is true or not but that is what I heard. I hope they begin to ship them soon so I can get one to play. |
You should track retail stores online to get one. I used http://wiihunt.com it tracks Target and Circuit City. Target gets random shipments and put them on the shelves immediately and sometimes they get scheduled shipments and sell them on Sunday same with Circuit City. Its best not to even call them cause when I called Target said they were sold out. I went to the store anyway and there were 2 left so I grabbed mine.
| wombatrpgs wrote: |
| QrafTee wrote: | | So now with "Mario & Sonic at the Olympics" Sonic is probably a shoe-in for Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Now that'd be interesting, Solid Snake and Sonic the Hedgehog... Perhaps they should be able to fuse into a new character too, Sonic Snake, oh yeah... my imagination's running wild now. |
I'm not sure that the arrival of 3rd party characters signals that Sonic will be included. If that was already decided at the time of the trailer, (as 3rd party characters must have been at that time), then Sonic would've been the most obvious pick to feature in the trailer, not Snake. Or perhaps that just hadn't been settled yet. But I would say that it does look promising... |
I never said it was decided THAT early. Anyway as well all know the creator of MGS approached the creator of SSB before Super Smash Bros. Melee was released. That would mean it would take priority before Sega's little blue hedgehog (which I should add now has surgery to make him taller). But I was just saying that Mario & Sonic at the Olympics would make Sonic a shoe-in for the second position of third-party characters in SSBB since they said they'd have 2-3 third-party characters in the latest installment of the SSB series.
| QrafTee wrote: |
| wombatrpgs wrote: | | QrafTee wrote: | | So now with "Mario & Sonic at the Olympics" Sonic is probably a shoe-in for Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Now that'd be interesting, Solid Snake and Sonic the Hedgehog... Perhaps they should be able to fuse into a new character too, Sonic Snake, oh yeah... my imagination's running wild now. |
I'm not sure that the arrival of 3rd party characters signals that Sonic will be included. If that was already decided at the time of the trailer, (as 3rd party characters must have been at that time), then Sonic would've been the most obvious pick to feature in the trailer, not Snake. Or perhaps that just hadn't been settled yet. But I would say that it does look promising... |
I never said it was decided THAT early. Anyway as well all know the creator of MGS approached the creator of SSB before Super Smash Bros. Melee was released. That would mean it would take priority before Sega's little blue hedgehog (which I should add now has surgery to make him taller). But I was just saying that Mario & Sonic at the Olympics would make Sonic a shoe-in for the second position of third-party characters in SSBB since they said they'd have 2-3 third-party characters in the latest installment of the SSB series. |
we need Metal gear on the WII
| enygmasoft wrote: |
| QrafTee wrote: | | wombatrpgs wrote: | | QrafTee wrote: | | So now with "Mario & Sonic at the Olympics" Sonic is probably a shoe-in for Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Now that'd be interesting, Solid Snake and Sonic the Hedgehog... Perhaps they should be able to fuse into a new character too, Sonic Snake, oh yeah... my imagination's running wild now. |
I'm not sure that the arrival of 3rd party characters signals that Sonic will be included. If that was already decided at the time of the trailer, (as 3rd party characters must have been at that time), then Sonic would've been the most obvious pick to feature in the trailer, not Snake. Or perhaps that just hadn't been settled yet. But I would say that it does look promising... |
I never said it was decided THAT early. Anyway as well all know the creator of MGS approached the creator of SSB before Super Smash Bros. Melee was released. That would mean it would take priority before Sega's little blue hedgehog (which I should add now has surgery to make him taller). But I was just saying that Mario & Sonic at the Olympics would make Sonic a shoe-in for the second position of third-party characters in SSBB since they said they'd have 2-3 third-party characters in the latest installment of the SSB series. |
we need Metal gear on the WII |
Maybe, maybe not. Of course it would be a great thing for many people! 
is even worth getting??? im considering it because i love nintendo's for there wide range of game genres (like puzzles and board games...ect) so if its worth getting let me know please
?
James
^Its definitely worth getting. Looks like online play will be solid by next year so Wii owners have a lot to look forward. Not to mention that Super Mario Galaxy will probably be the best game this year. Most of the Wii games right now are fun puzzle games so you would enjoy it.
| Heart Ticket wrote: |
is even worth getting??? im considering it because i love nintendo's for there wide range of game genres (like puzzles and board games...ect) so if its worth getting let me know please ?
James |
I'd wait, really. Right now the only real needgame for the Wii is Twilight Princess, although Wario Ware and Red Steel are pretty nice. And Twilight Princess isn't exclusive to the Wii. I think the really good games for the Wii are yet to come out, as Super Mario Galaxy isn't nearly there yet, but Super Smash Brothers Brawl will almost certainly be amazing. But by 2008 the Wii will havesome very nice games.
Personally, I don't regret getting the Wii.
It provides a fun way to stay active (assuming you're not sitting down while playing games such as wii sports). The Wii also has a wide range of games, from role-playing to puzzle, and even family oriented multiplayer games.
This platform may not be for the hardcore gamers out there, however what the Wii lacks in graphics and performance, it makes up with gameplay and versatility. With games such as Zelda and Super Smash Brothers, the Wii definately stands up to the PS3 and 360.
Of course there are a ways to cheat the Wii seemingly innate workout by using small, controlled movements.
Is anyone else bothered that Nintendo chose not to have a universal friend list for all the games?
| BHSDKP wrote: |
Personally, I don't regret getting the Wii.
It provides a fun way to stay active (assuming you're not sitting down while playing games such as wii sports). The Wii also has a wide range of games, from role-playing to puzzle, and even family oriented multiplayer games.
This platform may not be for the hardcore gamers out there, however what the Wii lacks in graphics and performance, it makes up with gameplay and versatility. With games such as Zelda and Super Smash Brothers, the Wii definately stands up to the PS3 and 360. |
I definitely don't regret getting a Wii either, but if you're deliberating about it, my point was that right now there aren't many games released for it. Once Brawl comes out, it'll be a must-have, but I still personally enjoy it now.
| Seiji wrote: |
| I just picked up a Nintendo Wifi USB Connector for my Wii and I can't even get it to work. It feels like $30 went to waste on it. |
why would nintendo start using usb contrals, when the hole system is designed for wireless controls
I finally got the Wii after a long wait, along with Twilight Princess and WarioWare. It is a superb console, really. WarioWare is unbelievably short (I went through it in a few hours), but great, and Twilight Princess is a masterpiece so far. I love Wii Sports.
The replayability of WarioWare I think makes it... But ia gree its short. However, its the most creative game wit hteh controller I;ve seen so far.
| dark_guardian216 wrote: |
agreed. this function no doubt will force people to team up, and that may pose a problem. lets cross our fingers and hope that this wont happen
but how can nintendo utilise the wiis functions such that even the 'interactivity' aspect is inciorporated into all its games? it seems like a great waste of money and time if the feature is not fully made use of.
wii is almost seen as the underdog by some people in the console race. ps3 and xbox are most widely advertised, while the wiis advertisment is minimal. although ppl who have tested both wii and ps3 have said that the wii was better. the interactivity is a main selling point, and against the playstation's multi-use feature and the xbox's , i dunno, xboxlive features, the wii stands a very good chance.
the wiis new technology is almost ground-breaking, as more and more people are looking for more bang for their buck. it allows a myraid of possibilites. its like the special arcade additions, like a gun you could get lets say you bought time crisis on you ps2. unfortunately, for me those didnt work half the time. i have not yet got to test the wii, and do not know the connectivity strengh, but it is very promising, all in one controller. |
Very nice toy, but yeap. im amazed at the amount of technology thats in there.
Re: the USB Wifi Connector -- don't bother, buy a proper router. You can get one cheaper than the Wifi adapter and it will do you a whole lot more good.
Re: games -- stop reading this post, run out and buy Super Paper Mario. Go ahead, I'll wait...
OK, back? Now, play that for the next ~40 hours. There, your Wii is useful again 
Well I finally found the trick to get the USB thing to work. I should have bought a router then I wouldn't have had so many problems. At least I was able to download the opera browser before it was 500 points. The USB works fine now though and doesn't really give me trouble anymore.
| Seiji wrote: |
| Well I finally found the trick to get the USB thing to work. I should have bought a router then I wouldn't have had so many problems. At least I was able to download the opera browser before it was 500 points. The USB works fine now though and doesn't really give me trouble anymore. |
How much does the stuff on the Wii Shop chanel cost?
| Whong wrote: |
| Seiji wrote: | | Well I finally found the trick to get the USB thing to work. I should have bought a router then I wouldn't have had so many problems. At least I was able to download the opera browser before it was 500 points. The USB works fine now though and doesn't really give me trouble anymore. |
How much does the stuff on the Wii Shop chanel cost? |
I believe 0-1000 points... to Free to $10.00.
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| Whong wrote: |
| How much does the stuff on the Wii Shop chanel cost? |
1 point = 1 cent US
NES games are 500
TG16 are 600
SNES/Genesis are 800
N64 are 1000
There's more details on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Console
My only thing with the Wii is the low amount of games announced that will use the internet. I love the controls and how they've been used in the games, but they kinda made a big deal about the wireless internet. I've only heard of one announced game that will use the internet, and that's the Pokemon game comming out next year. I really hope they say that Super Smash Bros. Brawl will use the internet, since that's probably the best type of game to have internet for.
| headie wrote: |
| My only thing with the Wii is the low amount of games announced that will use the internet. I love the controls and how they've been used in the games, but they kinda made a big deal about the wireless internet. I've only heard of one announced game that will use the internet, and that's the Pokemon game comming out next year. I really hope they say that Super Smash Bros. Brawl will use the internet, since that's probably the best type of game to have internet for. |
I think I've heard something about Smash Bros Brawl having internet connectivity, but I'm not really sure about it. I hope so too! 
Super Smash Bros. Brawl is only at the "may have" stage in regards to multiplayer via internet. Mario Football Strikers (or whatever the name is), however, will have multiplayer via internet. A third-party has also confirmed a game with multiplayer via internet, but I forget which company it was and what game it was pertaining too...
Mario Strikers Football looks pretty good... but I'm personally going to wait for Smash Bros. Brawl for Wi-Fi (I'll still get it, even if it doesn't have Wi-Fi!). It's looking to be an absolute corker of a game, taking the original formula and giving it a huge sprucing up.
Great stuff, for sure.
Super Smash Brothers Brawl, Battalion Wars 2 and a the Pokemon game are all confirmed to have online functions..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_Wii_Wi-Fi_games
Am I the only one worried that Nintendo will be as over-protective with the Wii as they are with the DS? I don't have a bunch of RL friends with Wiis, so I'd like to see a lobby/quickmatch system so I can play with strangers easily. Xbox lets me do this, but I fear Wii will not...
By confirmed to have online functions, are you sure that includes versus online? It could be some entertainingly useless feature such as Wii Plaza or such.
Also looking at that list I see Fire Emblem Wii 2, which I think could also use the feature of versus. If you've ever played Fire Emblem, I think that game needs some alternative to its AI as it has one of the most powerful tactical systems I've ever seen. I hope Goddess of Dawn is released in America soon...
Ok, so Brawl is a maybe. Did anyone hear that the new Katamari game might not go to the Wii? Apparently the control's will be too difficult for the programmers. Which is weird, since you can easily turn the remote fowards and backwards, side to side, and things like that. If anything, the Wii would be the perfect console for that type of game...
I hear the new Katamari game will be on the Xbox360 and PS3 no news about it being on the Wii yet. Right now I'm also disappointed with the lack of online games for the Wii. Right now there is none and supposedly Pokemon will be online but I'm hearing things about it being friend-based. I think I was too ahead of myself thinking that Madden '08 and a whole bunch of other games would be online. Since I'm a huge Nintendo fan I got the Wii but I guess if I really want online play I need to get a Xbox360 or a PS3. Since there will probably be low chances of Wii games being online. The Wii is more of the younger audience so I hear that they don't want kids to be playing with strangers so I guess thats probably the reason for the lack of online games.
The only problem with assuming that they're trying to protect their audiences is that there doesn't seem to be any method of communication available. What can a malicious person PokeBattling a nine year old possibly do? Ís it even possible to chat through that sort of thing? Even so, the Wii has parental controls that can be set, why not just have the games reference them and determine the allowability of communication? If Brawl is friends-based, then it almost defeats the point. The problem with Melee was too few multiplayer battles. If I have to wait two hours for one of the three people I know who have a Wii to come on, its really not worth it.
| wombatrpgs wrote: |
| The only problem with assuming that they're trying to protect their audiences is that there doesn't seem to be any method of communication available. What can a malicious person PokeBattling a nine year old possibly do? Ís it even possible to chat through that sort of thing? Even so, the Wii has parental controls that can be set, why not just have the games reference them and determine the allowability of communication? If Brawl is friends-based, then it almost defeats the point. The problem with Melee was too few multiplayer battles. If I have to wait two hours for one of the three people I know who have a Wii to come on, its really not worth it. |
I agree. Plus Nintendo said that the Wii was targeted at all audiences, from children to seniors. So protecting the little kids by limiting communication for all isn't that smart.
We'll just have to see what they do when they release Pokemon. I hear it is already online and available in Japan but I'm not sure if it is friend-based or lobby-based.
Well at 9 Years of age, Parents probably should be watching their kids play online games. 
Specifications mean nothing if it isn't fun to play. That's why Wii's can't stay on store shelves and you can easily get a PS3.
people need to give the Wii a chance. yes the graphics are not on par with ps3 and x360 but it was designed not to be. i consider it an alternative console, one i can feel very active playing.
sure i like my x360 but at times i want a more immersive feeling that i get from the Wii. If you wait a year or so new and better games will come out for it.
Perhaps that should only release T+ games online. Of course kids will play Pokemon so Nintendo should know better.
| kevin briggs wrote: |
people need to give the Wii a chance. yes the graphics are not on par with ps3 and x360 but it was designed not to be. i consider it an alternative console, one i can feel very active playing.
sure i like my x360 but at times i want a more immersive feeling that i get from the Wii. If you wait a year or so new and better games will come out for it. |
Yes and I think it is nice that different consoles have a little different specialities. 
Yeah, the only bad thing about the Wii is the Wii Friend Code system.
| Ghengis wrote: |
| Am I the only one worried that Nintendo will be as over-protective with the Wii as they are with the DS? I don't have a bunch of RL friends with Wiis, so I'd like to see a lobby/quickmatch system so I can play with strangers easily. Xbox lets me do this, but I fear Wii will not... |
The Wii online multiplayer network is by GameSpy, so you will probably have that. 
| Senshida wrote: |
| Ghengis wrote: | | Am I the only one worried that Nintendo will be as over-protective with the Wii as they are with the DS? I don't have a bunch of RL friends with Wiis, so I'd like to see a lobby/quickmatch system so I can play with strangers easily. Xbox lets me do this, but I fear Wii will not... |
The Wii online multiplayer network is by GameSpy, so you will probably have that.  |
I don't know GameSpy real well... What have they done in the past? What entities are behind things like Xbox Live?
| Quote: |
| Yeah, the only bad thing about the Wii is the Wii Friend Code system. |
Actually I'd say there's something wrong with every Next Generation Console Friend System.
Just check out this amusing comic by Cubetoons located Here
| LostOverThere wrote: |
| Quote: | | Yeah, the only bad thing about the Wii is the Wii Friend Code system. |
Actually I'd say there's something wrong with every Next Generation Console Friend System.
Just check out this amusing comic by Cubetoons located Here |
Although if you really look at the first frame I think you can live with the Microsoft smiling trees. That really isn't so bad. For the last generation, Xbox Live certainly beat out what little competetion it got...
I guess if people really wanted online play they would have a gotten a 360. I think the Friend Code System will be a good thing. I'm just happy there isn't much time left until the first online game is released.
| headie wrote: |
| My only thing with the Wii is the low amount of games announced that will use the internet. I love the controls and how they've been used in the games, but they kinda made a big deal about the wireless internet. I've only heard of one announced game that will use the internet, and that's the Pokemon game comming out next year. I really hope they say that Super Smash Bros. Brawl will use the internet, since that's probably the best type of game to have internet for. |
POKEmon multiplayer is very promising technologidal app
| enygmasoft wrote: |
| headie wrote: | | My only thing with the Wii is the low amount of games announced that will use the internet. I love the controls and how they've been used in the games, but they kinda made a big deal about the wireless internet. I've only heard of one announced game that will use the internet, and that's the Pokemon game comming out next year. I really hope they say that Super Smash Bros. Brawl will use the internet, since that's probably the best type of game to have internet for. |
POKEmon multiplayer is very promising technologidal app |
| Quote: |
| Super Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros., and Metroid Prime 3 all this year, says Nintendo President Satoru Iwata. |
Score!
| QrafTee wrote: |
| enygmasoft wrote: | | headie wrote: | | My only thing with the Wii is the low amount of games announced that will use the internet. I love the controls and how they've been used in the games, but they kinda made a big deal about the wireless internet. I've only heard of one announced game that will use the internet, and that's the Pokemon game comming out next year. I really hope they say that Super Smash Bros. Brawl will use the internet, since that's probably the best type of game to have internet for. |
POKEmon multiplayer is very promising technologidal app |
| Quote: | | Super Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros., and Metroid Prime 3 all this year, says Nintendo President Satoru Iwata. |
Score! |
Man! This is really great Pokemon Battle Revolution, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros Brawl, Metroid Prime 3 Corruption and many other great games coming out this year. Now that is just great! 


Just can't wait, Super Mario Galaxy looks just gorgeous!
I hear Metroid Prime 3 might be online. That would be pretty sweet if that game became online. I would expect much more Wii users to end up playing. I remember when Metroid Prime hit the Gamecube, I think it got more praise than Super Mario Sunshine.
Wii is awesome. i m saving money to get one. anyone know how much for it now?
The Wii costs 250. Honestly though, just playing Wii Sports without online for 2 weeks straight is still fun. The online features are cool, especially the internet channel and the forecast channel. I just hope that Nintendo makes adding friends easier and more useful. Also, does anyone know if the Wii is still in short supply? I'm trying to find one for a friend of mine who lives in the DC area.
| mansonivan wrote: |
| Wii is awesome. i m saving money to get one. anyone know how much for it now? |
Dont be stupid. Save money and go for the PS3.
| iNs@nE wrote: |
| mansonivan wrote: | | Wii is awesome. i m saving money to get one. anyone know how much for it now? |
Dont be stupid. Save money and go for the PS3. |
If it takes the saving of money to go for the Wii, with a moderate pricetag of $250 and a very nice default game with others available around $40, the PS3 would seem a little out of reach with almost triple pricing for a basic PS3 set...
And I somehow doubt that the suggestion will taken seriously on the Wii topic. Like people asking if they should buy the game featured on a Gamefaqs board... Oh well.
| wombatrpgs wrote: |
| iNs@nE wrote: | | mansonivan wrote: | | Wii is awesome. i m saving money to get one. anyone know how much for it now? |
Dont be stupid. Save money and go for the PS3. |
If it takes the saving of money to go for the Wii, with a moderate pricetag of $250 and a very nice default game with others available around $40, the PS3 would seem a little out of reach with almost triple pricing for a basic PS3 set...
And I somehow doubt that the suggestion will taken seriously on the Wii topic. Like people asking if they should buy the game featured on a Gamefaqs board... Oh well. |
Insane must be joking... I mean he has to be... unless he's really insane...
| iNs@nE wrote: |
| Dont be stupid. Save money and go for the PS3. |
Wow, if you're going to bad mouth a console in that consoles thread. At least get some correct information to back it up. Not your (Lame) opinion.
Right about now is the perfect time to get a Wii. Online game will be out June 25th so you don't have a long time to wait. Its not as hard to find one now either.
I have to say, as of right now, the wii owns the ps3 (and unlike some people.. I have the right to say that I own both) I actually wanted a wii from the start... but weirdly enough (and this was 2 weeks before Christmas ) They had 2 ps3s and no Wiis.. so we were like hell, lets get us a ps3. And dont get me wrong, I love my ps3... resistance fall of man rocks...but as of right now...thats about all that rocks. Good games are to come.. but as of right now... nope
The wii has good games out right now, and is just so unique, I love it, heck, even my mom is playing the wii, and she hates games.
Arguing what's more powerful isn't important here either. What I care about are how good the games are. I don't hate Sony, Chrono Cross is the greatest game ever made in my opinion, but I do not care for any PS3 games. PS3 has potential for some great games, but TO ME has failed to show it. I also think the system itself does not look "cool" as stated above.
If you do care about the power the console has, why use consoles at all? Desktops are still in the lead when it comes to power despite popular belief that the consoles would beat them out this generation. Also, if you factor in size, and the PS3 is around 5 times the size. If the wii wanted a system that was 5 times bigger, then they would have made it that way and put in more powerful stuff.
Therefore, if you want power, use your pc and wait at least another generation for consoles, if you want great fun and great games go with the wii.
Moving along. What's your opinion on Red Steel I love it but I know of lots of other people who hate it.
I liked Red Steel. It was one of the few games that I have played where my arms have actually gotten tired. But if you want a real "Damn my arms hurt game", try Spiderman 3. It gives a new defination to web slinging.
| LostOverThere wrote: |
| Moving along. What's your opinion on Red Steel I love it but I know of lots of other people who hate it. |
I've played it alot, although I don;t own it. It would seem to be the best thing the Wii has for a first-person shooter, and the basic point-to-aim is the real draw to the game, as teh swordplay is completely overrated. I still don't understand how this game and Twilight Princess managed to pass off vigorous shaking for swinging a sword. The Wii really needs a fencing game, or at least something like the seventh or something 'boss' minigame in WarioWare Smooth Moves that uses the direction of the controller to block.
| wombatrpgs wrote: |
I've played it alot, although I don;t own it. It would seem to be the best thing the Wii has for a first-person shooter, and the basic point-to-aim is the real draw to the game, as teh swordplay is completely overrated. I still don't understand how this game and Twilight Princess managed to pass off vigorous shaking for swinging a sword. The Wii really needs a fencing game, or at least something like the seventh or something 'boss' minigame in WarioWare Smooth Moves that uses the direction of the controller to block. |
If you are looking for a FPS for the Wii Red Steel is not it in my opinion. Call of Duty and Far Cry are alot better. Wombat, I agree with you abot the swordplay, but you have to admit that it is funny as hell to see someone flailing around in total uncoordinated chaos and then look at the screen to see Link or the Prince of Persia pull off graceful, fluid combos one after another.
| Futile wrote: |
| If you are looking for a FPS for the Wii Red Steel is not it in my opinion. Call of Duty and Far Cry are alot better. Wombat, I agree with you abot the swordplay, but you have to admit that it is funny as hell to see someone flailing around in total uncoordinated chaos and then look at the screen to see Link or the Prince of Persia pull off graceful, fluid combos one after another. |
What would you recommend? I've heard Elebits recommended as a game that makes use of the controller, but that sounds a bit iffy, and can't really call that an FPS. Like I said, I don't think Red Steel is anything special, but that's why I don't own it.
And yeah, the rendering of player movements on screen is kind of funny. In Wii Sports Bowling my friend did a full bowling swing without releasing the button, walked up a flight of stairs, got a cookie, faced the complete opposite direction, and then repeated the follow-through and got a strike...
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| wombatrpgs wrote: |
What would you recommend? I've heard Elebits recommended as a game that makes use of the controller, but that sounds a bit iffy, and can't really call that an FPS. Like I said, I don't think Red Steel is anything special, but that's why I don't own it.
And yeah, the rendering of player movements on screen is kind of funny. In Wii Sports Bowling my friend did a full bowling swing without releasing the button, walked up a flight of stairs, got a cookie, faced the complete opposite direction, and then repeated the follow-through and got a strike... |
I don't own it but I rented it. Elebits is considered a FPS because you shoot more then you capture the little elebits but it is on the kiddie side for younger audiences. The best thing about it is that it is really a great demonstration of the Wii's sensor technology capabilities. The gun is like your grav gun in Half Life 2 so you can catch and grab almost anything in the environment. The puzzle solving involved in the levels is very addictive. It also has a level edit/building mode to create your own levels. The multiplayer is a horrible mess in my opinion, because only one player gets to control the camera view. Overall, it’s not a bad game. The play is easy and very addictive. It’s not a “true” FPS it’s more of a hybrid shooter.
Elebits is...ok. I hate the tutorial though. I don't remember why, but I remember cursing myself while palying it for renting it... A better game would be Rayman. It has a FPS minigame where you get to shoot the rabbits!
| Whong wrote: |
| eLto wrote: | 10 reasons why the PS3 beats all you nintendo fanboys:
1 Nvidia RSX GPU.
2 Cell CPU with 8 dual-cores
3 Bluetooth
4 Blu-Ray (54 GB storage space)
5 Hard drive
6 wireless controllers with motion sensibilty, ergonomically shaped
7 Memory slots for various types of media
8 Support for 7 controllers
9 Plays all sorts of media (mp3, wav, avi, mpg etc.)
10 It looks tons cooler
I know you people like nintendo, and don't get me wrong, so did I, until the N64 came out, still using cartridges. Zelda was GREAT, Goldeneye was GREAT, perfect dark was GREAT, and hell, even diddy kong racing was fun, but nintendo seems to always aim for children and new playing styles, whereas sony (and microsuck) aim for the mainstream masses of multimedia, and therefore get way better performing consoles.
Anyway, that's my opinion, and your opinions are yours. Nothing I can do about it. |
But PS3 is just an upgrade from the PS2, but Wii is something totally different than Game Cube!
PS3 is more powerful, yes, but Wii will win the market, people will buy Wii but not PS3 that much!   |
will??? did win the market
| headie wrote: |
| Elebits is...ok. I hate the tutorial though. I don't remember why, but I remember cursing myself while palying it for renting it... A better game would be Rayman. It has a FPS minigame where you get to shoot the rabbits! |
I was considering getting RRR, but when I found out it consists of mini-games (just like Wii Sports, Wii Play and WarioWare, which were the only games I had and I was tired of mini-games) I lost interest and bought Zelda instead. =D
| Loghete wrote: |
| headie wrote: | | Elebits is...ok. I hate the tutorial though. I don't remember why, but I remember cursing myself while palying it for renting it... A better game would be Rayman. It has a FPS minigame where you get to shoot the rabbits! |
I was considering getting RRR, but when I found out it consists of mini-games (just like Wii Sports, Wii Play and WarioWare, which were the only games I had and I was tired of mini-games) I lost interest and bought Zelda instead. =D |
Good choice, Zelda is a really great game! It will not disapoint you! 
| Loghete wrote: |
| headie wrote: | | Elebits is...ok. I hate the tutorial though. I don't remember why, but I remember cursing myself while palying it for renting it... A better game would be Rayman. It has a FPS minigame where you get to shoot the rabbits! |
I was considering getting RRR, but when I found out it consists of mini-games (just like Wii Sports, Wii Play and WarioWare, which were the only games I had and I was tired of mini-games) I lost interest and bought Zelda instead. =D |
Although no Zelda is complete without minigames... Oh well. But I really didn't think Twilight Princess lived up to its hype. It just seemed a lot less... epic. I mean, it was nice to have a sort of OoT with better graphics and extras, but I thought it would be a bit more innovative. And a lot harder.
Really, that's strange wombatrpgs, I've heard lots of Zelda fans calling it the best Zelda game ever.
Though, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
| LostOverThere wrote: |
Really, that's strange wombatrpgs, I've heard lots of Zelda fans calling it the best Zelda game ever.
Though, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. |
It seems 'most' Zelda fans have never played the original and Adventures of Link. They might not have been the best games, but at the time, they were excellent. (Okay, maybe not AoL, but...) Ocarina of Time really set the standard for the series as far as the modern games go. The Orcacles were nice as they extended the Link's Awakening and the original's style, as well as added a good deal to it.
But with Ocarina setting the bar, Twilight Princess only met it. Its no 'better' than OoT just because of more graphics and much less playtime and difficulty. (Why do all videogames seem to be getting easier?) It tried to add the 'wolf,' like the Oracles added Cane of Somaria, Magnetic Gloves, etc... TP had no new items, it had the wolf to add. And the wolf just wasn't very fun for long.
| wombatrpgs wrote: |
| LostOverThere wrote: | Really, that's strange wombatrpgs, I've heard lots of Zelda fans calling it the best Zelda game ever.
Though, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. |
It seems 'most' Zelda fans have never played the original and Adventures of Link. They might not have been the best games, but at the time, they were excellent. (Okay, maybe not AoL, but...) Ocarina of Time really set the standard for the series as far as the modern games go. The Orcacles were nice as they extended the Link's Awakening and the original's style, as well as added a good deal to it.
But with Ocarina setting the bar, Twilight Princess only met it. Its no 'better' than OoT just because of more graphics and much less playtime and difficulty. (Why do all videogames seem to be getting easier?) It tried to add the 'wolf,' like the Oracles added Cane of Somaria, Magnetic Gloves, etc... TP had no new items, it had the wolf to add. And the wolf just wasn't very fun for long. |
Ocarina of Time is a really great game! It really is marvelous! 
| wombatrpgs wrote: |
| LostOverThere wrote: | Really, that's strange wombatrpgs, I've heard lots of Zelda fans calling it the best Zelda game ever.
Though, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. |
It seems 'most' Zelda fans have never played the original and Adventures of Link. They might not have been the best games, but at the time, they were excellent. (Okay, maybe not AoL, but...) Ocarina of Time really set the standard for the series as far as the modern games go. The Orcacles were nice as they extended the Link's Awakening and the original's style, as well as added a good deal to it.
But with Ocarina setting the bar, Twilight Princess only met it. Its no 'better' than OoT just because of more graphics and much less playtime and difficulty. (Why do all videogames seem to be getting easier?) It tried to add the 'wolf,' like the Oracles added Cane of Somaria, Magnetic Gloves, etc... TP had no new items, it had the wolf to add. And the wolf just wasn't very fun for long. |
I still think the best Zelda game is Zelda III: A Link to the Past.
| QrafTee wrote: |
| wombatrpgs wrote: | | LostOverThere wrote: | Really, that's strange wombatrpgs, I've heard lots of Zelda fans calling it the best Zelda game ever.
Though, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. |
It seems 'most' Zelda fans have never played the original and Adventures of Link. They might not have been the best games, but at the time, they were excellent. (Okay, maybe not AoL, but...) Ocarina of Time really set the standard for the series as far as the modern games go. The Orcacles were nice as they extended the Link's Awakening and the original's style, as well as added a good deal to it.
But with Ocarina setting the bar, Twilight Princess only met it. Its no 'better' than OoT just because of more graphics and much less playtime and difficulty. (Why do all videogames seem to be getting easier?) It tried to add the 'wolf,' like the Oracles added Cane of Somaria, Magnetic Gloves, etc... TP had no new items, it had the wolf to add. And the wolf just wasn't very fun for long. |
I still think the best Zelda game is Zelda III: A Link to the Past. |
I've never finnished Ocarina of Time, but I'd say that Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess are the best Zelda games!
Windwaker was great too! 
I still haven't finished Twilight Princess. I haven't been motivated to play it and the game is becoming confusing with the wind-blowing bridges 
Does anyone have any information regarding online play...sort of like an Xbox Live system? Wasn't there talk about that down the line. I don't understand why they wouldn't put that in from the start...Just think - Wii Tennis with your friends over the i-net. That would be loads of fun. 
| BrookfieldPC wrote: |
Does anyone have any information regarding online play...sort of like an Xbox Live system? Wasn't there talk about that down the line. I don't understand why they wouldn't put that in from the start...Just think - Wii Tennis with your friends over the i-net. That would be loads of fun.  |
The only online game yet, except for a Pokemon game which has just been released in Japan, is Mario Strikers Charged. I would definitely get it if I had the money.
Though, in a close future more online games will pop up, like Battalion Wars II, Super Smash Bros Brawl, and lots more.
Does anyone know if Fire Emblem: Goddess of Dawn has any online features, and if so what they are? Or maybe that's FE11 that's in development I'm thinking about.... But any help would be appreciated.
| eLto wrote: |
10 reasons why the PS3 beats all you nintendo fanboys:
1 Nvidia RSX GPU.
2 Cell CPU with 8 dual-cores
3 Bluetooth
4 Blu-Ray (54 GB storage space)
5 Hard drive
6 wireless controllers with motion sensibilty, ergonomically shaped
7 Memory slots for various types of media
8 Support for 7 controllers
9 Plays all sorts of media (mp3, wav, avi, mpg etc.)
10 It looks tons cooler
I know you people like nintendo, and don't get me wrong, so did I, until the N64 came out, still using cartridges. Zelda was GREAT, Goldeneye was GREAT, perfect dark was GREAT, and hell, even diddy kong racing was fun, but nintendo seems to always aim for children and new playing styles, whereas sony (and microsuck) aim for the mainstream masses of multimedia, and therefore get way better performing consoles.
Anyway, that's my opinion, and your opinions are yours. Nothing I can do about it. |
And now:
Ten reasons why PS3 sux!
1. Price (You could buy 2 Wii's for that price or get the 360 Elite with not 54 gb of storage, but 120gb!!!, and still have money left over.)
2. unoriginal
3. Bluray
4. Target customers are only extreme gamers, and not so much casual
5. Overpowered
6. Weight (About 11lbs)
7. Size
8. Only 256 mb of memory
9. You have to buy the expensive version to get the SD cards, and everything else stated above, and HDMI out.
10. This video explains the rest.
Nuff said.
Besides, Wii dominates all (even though I'm a pro MS person), and its the best selling, funnest, most family-friends oriented, all ages friendly, creative, etc.. game system I have ever seen! Get one if you haven't already! Its worth the $249.99.
Zelda... there were things wrong with it, but it is still nonetheless a fun game.
Wrong:
- Lack of originality in items. The way you use them is innovative, but the actual items themselves are old (or classic, depending on your point of view). Stick with the old stuff, sure. But get some new ones as well Nintendo!
- Too easy! There should have been a hard mode option. That way, casual gamers and hardcore fans alike get a challenging and fun game.
- Too much Midna (wolf form). There were only about three places in the game when you can play as a wolf WITHOUT Midna riding your back. I think it would have been pretty cool if there were parts where her and Link are seperated. She makes wolf battles far too easy with her dark field attack.
- Not enough Midna (human form). Conversely, it would have been great if there were points where you could have Midna hanging about with Link as a human, instead of hiding in his shadow all the time. She's got all this cool dark magic - why can't she use it?
- Zant. He is... overly camp.
Right:
- Wolf! Very cool indeed. Nuff said. And the howling stones are awesome.
- Midna. Totally evil at the start - I just love her!
- Challenging puzzles. Yes, there were plenty of headscratchers.
- Everything else. (A lot.) There's too much to mention, so get the game and find out. Trust me, it's worth it.
I also think Zelda is great, it's definitely the best Wii game out yet. Still.
I think the graphics are totally enough, the atmosphere is lovely. The music.... well, sometimes it's very good and fits the game, like in the events after the 1st temple, I thought it was so good I went mad every time an enemy came and made it change to the battle music.
Though, sometimes I think the music is a little lame. It could be better.
I agree with Fire Boar, it's a little too easy. Especially the bosses, I always shout of anger when they die. On most bosses I don't even die one single time.
Also, the puzzles are too easy. For puzzles to be hard enough, I've first got to try the puzzles for hours, get mad, exit the game, go make a milkshake, go back and try the puzzle again, try it for hours, get mad again and throw away the game in anger, go to sleep, make something up while trying to sleep, go up and continue playing, fall asleep while playing, wake up and finally you've got it, and you make it through the puzzle.
That's a hard enough puzzle.
The average Zelda puzzle takes me about 15 mins to solve.
There is one last thing that annoys me, the repetitive caves/dungeons/temples. I mean, in every one, you first get your way through a bit, to find a mini-boss, which drops an item. With this item you can make your way to the boss key, which can take you to the Big Boss. You slay the boss and come out, and you never need the weird item anymore.
Well, don't get scared by those negatives, overall Zelda is an awesome game. If you haven't got it, go get it.
| Loghete wrote: |
I also think Zelda is great, it's definitely the best Wii game out yet. Still.
I think the graphics are totally enough, the atmosphere is lovely. The music.... well, sometimes it's very good and fits the game, like in the events after the 1st temple, I thought it was so good I went mad every time an enemy came and made it change to the battle music.
Though, sometimes I think the music is a little lame. It could be better.
I agree with Fire Boar, it's a little too easy. Especially the bosses, I always shout of anger when they die. On most bosses I don't even die one single time.
Also, the puzzles are too easy. For puzzles to be hard enough, I've first got to try the puzzles for hours, get mad, exit the game, go make a milkshake, go back and try the puzzle again, try it for hours, get mad again and throw away the game in anger, go to sleep, make something up while trying to sleep, go up and continue playing, fall asleep while playing, wake up and finally you've got it, and you make it through the puzzle.
That's a hard enough puzzle.
The average Zelda puzzle takes me about 15 mins to solve.
There is one last thing that annoys me, the repetitive caves/dungeons/temples. I mean, in every one, you first get your way through a bit, to find a mini-boss, which drops an item. With this item you can make your way to the boss key, which can take you to the Big Boss. You slay the boss and come out, and you never need the weird item anymore.
Well, don't get scared by those negatives, overall Zelda is an awesome game. If you haven't got it, go get it. |
Yes! I agree with you too, the game is fabulous and the graphics are nice and just enough.
The bosses are annoyingly easy compared to eg. Ocarina of Time or the Wind Waker.
The thing you said about the items is very true, it's irritating that the nice new item which you just got, is quite useless after the dungeon.
But never the less, Twilight Princess is a great game! 
One of the most eagerly anticipated games is Pokemon Diamond/Pearl
The same format has been used over and over and over again in these, games, Nintendo seem to have hit a winning formula. Catch them all, again and again, and defeat the evil team <insert name here> it happens all the time. I really dont see whats so good about it
| dark_guardian216 wrote: |
One of the most eagerly anticipated games is Pokemon Diamond/Pearl
The same format has been used over and over and over again in these, games, Nintendo seem to have hit a winning formula. Catch them all, again and again, and defeat the evil team <insert name here> it happens all the time. I really dont see whats so good about it |
I've played quite many Pokemon games and I gotta tell you that it is just something in them that makes you want to play them more and more. I don't really know why, but that's just how it is... 
| dark_guardian216 wrote: |
One of the most eagerly anticipated games is Pokemon Diamond/Pearl
The same format has been used over and over and over again in these, games, Nintendo seem to have hit a winning formula. Catch them all, again and again, and defeat the evil team <insert name here> it happens all the time. I really dont see whats so good about it |
The neat thing about the games is the style of RPG its in, mainly, that rather than having a set four characters or so that can take on many different roles, you have tons and tons of characters that are more limitted in their ability. And the unique battle style: You don't get to designate the next round of four characters, you control one at a time and switch out constantly. Makes for an interesting metagame.
About one-player plotline being extremely similar, that's true. A bit of new plot would be really nice once in a while, maybe some improvements in that area rather than hoardes of new pokemon? But the solution to this is really just focusing on the two-player aspects. And single-player gets boring anyway, making teams to do twoplayer. Which is waht NetBattle is for...
The Pokemon games were great in the beginning! But once they added the other billion-and-a-half Pokemon, it seemed kinda... worthless. Had they kept the same Pokemon, or added a few new ones, and just made a new plot, just about everyone I know would still be playing them. After the first set of GBA games, it lost it's value, in my opinion.
Well indeed. The dreram of creating your very own team of uber-Pokemon and taking down the champions has it attractions, but how long will this take to get old? Despite many many different versions, spanning all the colors of the rainbow, the junkies still come back for more. Nintendo have really hit a goldmine in this game. Need more cash? Create more Pokemon! Then there will be a new version, a new region, new card games, new TV shows, new franchises, new merchandise, you name it, its there.
What is the mystery thing that keeps calling people back for more? Why their slogan, "Gotta catch them all!". A recent survey shows that most gamers are Completionists, meaning that they like to discover every secret, search every corner of a dungeon, or in this case, catch every Pokemon, or train to level 100. There are fewer Breeders amoung the players now, like me. I used to be a avid fan, watching all the shows and catching all the Pokemon. Now the game seems to have lost its shine.
| headie wrote: |
| The Pokemon games were great in the beginning! But once they added the other billion-and-a-half Pokemon, it seemed kinda... worthless. Had they kept the same Pokemon, or added a few new ones, and just made a new plot, just about everyone I know would still be playing them. After the first set of GBA games, it lost it's value, in my opinion. |
I lost interest after Crystal; last game I owned. It's the only game the gets around the inconveniences of the Red and Blue version while being reasonable as far as different game aspects go. Every other game has been slightly excessive.
But now my internal battery died... I really hate that generation of cartridges. I also wish I was a hardware person and not software so I could repair it!
| lakitna wrote: |
i want to buy a WII! if my mon doesnt talk crap: "yeah you already hava a gamecube! so i think it's wasting money!"  |
Wii is really great especially since you can play GameCube games on it too!
Save up some money and get a Wii it's worth it! 
I love Wii!
I own one myself, can't stop playing...
I never really like the powerful consoles like XB360 and PS3...
| aznhomieboi1689 wrote: |
I love Wii! I own one myself, can't stop playing...
I never really like the powerful consoles like XB360 and PS3... |
Me neither, and though Wii isn't as powerful as XBOX360 or PS3 it still is more powerful than GameCube and I think Wii has great graphics though many of you who have played XBox 360 or PS3 might disagree with me. 
| dark_guardian216 wrote: |
One of the most eagerly anticipated games is Pokemon Diamond/Pearl
The same format has been used over and over and over again in these, games, Nintendo seem to have hit a winning formula. Catch them all, again and again, and defeat the evil team <insert name here> it happens all the time. I really dont see whats so good about it |
Diamond and Pearl actually is different from all the others this time around. They really changed the story. Team Galactic is not really a "BAD" guy, they just team of people in a different propective wanting a better world with Pokemon.
It's really surprising to me that they can make up new Pokemon and story at the same time, I really enjoy the game. I am hoping to get the Piokemon Battle Revolution coming out for Wii.
| aznhomieboi1689 wrote: |
Team Galactic is not really a "BAD" guy, they just team of people in a different propective wanting a better world with Pokemon.
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Doesnt that just mean that they want the different perspective of a world ruled by them? and dont say they arent troublemakers. you have to chase one around one intstitute, and you do fight them.
Im also glad that they bother to keep most of the old pokemon, some of which they dont bother to in the previous games. some were dearly missed in the Ruby/Sapphire version.
Some of the new pokemon seem as if they were made in a great hurry, with some crazy ideas involved, compared to the simplicity of the first series of games, like yellow, red, blue and in some cases, green.
No matter how polished the new ones look, the oldest Pokemon are always the best.
i sorta liked how the new one used some different old pokemon.
they used more pokemon from the 2nd gen, which was my favorite gen(as far as the pokemon in that gen).
on thing i renly did not like is that they barly put any control touch screen controls for the pc box's. if they would have put the main screen on the bottum, and let you use the touch screen for all the minus and stuff on the pc, then it would have realy made dealing with hundreds of pokemon alot easier.
my real complaint is that they only let you use touch screen for some stuff, but not all.
| dark_guardian216 wrote: |
Some of the new pokemon seem as if they were made in a great hurry, with some crazy ideas involved, compared to the simplicity of the first series of games, like yellow, red, blue and in some cases, green.
No matter how polished the new ones look, the oldest Pokemon are always the best. |
I fully agree! The new Pokemon seem some what odd, they don't look like pokemons compared with the 1st gen Pokemons. Take for example Tangela's second stage which is a 4th gen Pokemon, it looks totally weird... I mean just look at it is so strange!!!
http://serebii.net/pokedex-dp/465.shtml
You see what I mean?
I really liked the 1st gen the best!!!
hey i was considering the purchase of a wii in the coming months(most likely my birthday in september) and i was wondering if at any time in between if nintendo would be releasing different colors of the wii.
i have seen a bunch if fake ads about it but was wondering if it will come to life sometime soon.
i highly doubt that nintendo will want their wii's to be the same as apples ipods. I might be wrong but i think that they will stay with just the one wii color.
I do like the idea but i dont think it will happen....i mean imagine!!!wait a minute you might be right look at these pictures i found while writing this post
well darn there goes my oppinion in about 10 seconds lol
guess i better look around before giving an opion
Those black and red wiis look sweet!!! I would way rather have one of them than my boring white one. But begers cant be choosers when it comes to the wii because for most people it takes months too get.
I am very lucky though cause i got one on my second day of looking. My secret is to go look at superstore because you cant phone their electronics department so people dont think to go there. When we went there they had 3. Also costco gets large shipments cause i went there and they had like 36 of them(i counted). Anyway hope anyone who dosn't have one finds one!!!
And while im typing what games do you guys have that are good family games??? We already have the wii sports (DUHH) and might get brain academy!!! so what else is good??? Thanks
More deactiviation woes, gah. One day i must really go on a spammin... i mean contributing rampage.
anyway, chiming in, research reports have shown that the people playing the wii actually burn more energy on it than normal exercise. Of course theres minus the benefits of fresh air and other whatnot, but people have more motivation to continue playing the game, and thus exercising. thus, more people exercise more, more fitter people! what the heck, there may even be Wiis coming to a fitness center near you!
I, not owning one, but severely wishing that i did, must appreciate the great innovation present in the Wii. between the three consoles, the Wii is the underdog in the background, but i think it is most likely to win.
| dark_guardian216 wrote: |
More deactiviation woes, gah. One day i must really go on a spammin... i mean contributing rampage.
anyway, chiming in, research reports have shown that the people playing the wii actually burn more energy on it than normal exercise. Of course theres minus the benefits of fresh air and other whatnot, but people have more motivation to continue playing the game, and thus exercising. thus, more people exercise more, more fitter people! what the heck, there may even be Wiis coming to a fitness center near you!
I, not owning one, but severely wishing that i did, must appreciate the great innovation present in the Wii. between the three consoles, the Wii is the underdog in the background, but i think it is most likely to win. |
Keep in mind that Wiis are being used in old folks homes and hospitals too. For old people it's recreational and for hospitals it's used to rehabilitate people.
| QrafTee wrote: |
| dark_guardian216 wrote: | More deactiviation woes, gah. One day i must really go on a spammin... i mean contributing rampage.
anyway, chiming in, research reports have shown that the people playing the wii actually burn more energy on it than normal exercise. Of course theres minus the benefits of fresh air and other whatnot, but people have more motivation to continue playing the game, and thus exercising. thus, more people exercise more, more fitter people! what the heck, there may even be Wiis coming to a fitness center near you!
I, not owning one, but severely wishing that i did, must appreciate the great innovation present in the Wii. between the three consoles, the Wii is the underdog in the background, but i think it is most likely to win. |
Keep in mind that Wiis are being used in old folks homes and hospitals too. For old people it's recreational and for hospitals it's used to rehabilitate people. |
That's a good point, it's good to get the old folks to move a bit. That's good that Wii is doing something good for them too! 
| runereference wrote: |
| And while im typing what games do you guys have that are good family games??? We already have the wii sports (DUHH) and might get brain academy!!! so what else is good??? Thanks |
I thought Wario Ware was good for family play... Slightly immature for higher ages, but its really far too hilarious to get caught up in protesting it. Not to mention it never gets old in multiplayer, with 3 minigames and 4 different ways to play the microgames.
And where did you get the image? If its not released by Nintendo, its most likely 'artist's rendition'. But I did hear something about multiple skins.
Just bought Pokemon Battle Revolution today and has to be the worst game I ever bought. So dissapointed that it turned out like that. I haven't tried it online yet but I doubt it will make any difference. After the first battle I was bored. I'm just mad that I wasted $50 on this game. Unless your a diehard pokemon fan or have a DS you shouldn't waste your money on it.
| QrafTee wrote: |
| ...For old people it's recreational and for hospitals it's used to rehabilitate people. |
Yeah for the five old folks homes that actually have one.
Don't act like it's some huge thing for them, it isn't, they see it as a childrens toy, and really, the Wii is a childrens toy, don't act like the 1000 old folks who like the Wii are some new market demographic, they aren't, they are a minority, and a very small one at that.
They are a: Uber Minor Mini Monority.
It's a really lame thing you Wii fanboys/girls use to make it seem like a console for everyone, I have a Gamecube, and I like it because it has games for kids, and games for teens, none of this 'everyone' crap.
It's like my brothers old videos for babies having an age limit of 8, and it's a show made for 3 year olds.
Come on people, it's a gimmicky console, with games that have little depth and very little replayability.
Reddish
| reddishblue wrote: |
| QrafTee wrote: | | ...For old people it's recreational and for hospitals it's used to rehabilitate people. |
Yeah for the five old folks homes that actually have one.
Don't act like it's some huge thing for them, it isn't, they see it as a childrens toy, and really, the Wii is a childrens toy, don't act like the 1000 old folks who like the Wii are some new market demographic, they aren't, they are a minority, and a very small one at that.
They are a: Uber Minor Mini Monority.
It's a really lame thing you Wii fanboys/girls use to make it seem like a console for everyone, I have a Gamecube, and I like it because it has games for kids, and games for teens, none of this 'everyone' crap.
It's like my brothers old videos for babies having an age limit of 8, and it's a show made for 3 year olds.
Come on people, it's a gimmicky console, with games that have little depth and very little replayability.
Reddish |
Wii was made for everyone, but it is we people who still act as if it were for kids. It isn't for just kids. Do you mean to tell me that only kids play Mario or Zelda. I doubt! Many adults are really into Mario and Zelda and so on and on. So don't give me that stuff that it's for kids. Is Zelda Twilight princess for kids? NO, it's for young people and up. Of course there are games like WarioWare which are fun for kids, but many older people like it too. So don't make those statements, they really annoy us!
| Whong wrote: |
Wii was made for everyone, but it is we people who still act as if it were for kids. It isn't for just kids. Do you mean to tell me that only kids play Mario or Zelda. I doubt! Many adults are really into Mario and Zelda and so on and on. So don't give me that stuff that it's for kids. Is Zelda Twilight princess for kids? NO, it's for young people and up. Of course there are games like WarioWare which are fun for kids, but many older people like it too. So don't make those statements, they really annoy us!
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Maybe they do, does that mean it shouldn't be said?
This is a forum, as long as what I say isn't offensive, or insulting, then I can say it, don't tell me you find me challenging your taste in video games insulting!
You can say it's for young kids and up, but the fact remains, if it is made so a young kid can play it, then it is easy and immature.
Also, if anyone accuses me of being a lover of shooting games and the like, just stop there, I am more of an RPG fan
But really, even if something is for everyone, it doesn't matter, because not everyone plays it, Cartoon Network is for everyone in thoery, it even has a timeslot for more mature cartoons, but how many people over ten do you know that watch it?
Reddish
Forum eh? Well Here's my opinion. Yes Nintendo games may seem to be aimed at kids, but they are aimed at everyone.
Kids are part of everyone.
| reddishblue wrote: |
| QrafTee wrote: | | ...For old people it's recreational and for hospitals it's used to rehabilitate people. |
Yeah for the five old folks homes that actually have one.
Don't act like it's some huge thing for them, it isn't, they see it as a childrens toy, and really, the Wii is a childrens toy, don't act like the 1000 old folks who like the Wii are some new market demographic, they aren't, they are a minority, and a very small one at that.
They are a: Uber Minor Mini Monority.
It's a really lame thing you Wii fanboys/girls use to make it seem like a console for everyone, I have a Gamecube, and I like it because it has games for kids, and games for teens, none of this 'everyone' crap.
It's like my brothers old videos for babies having an age limit of 8, and it's a show made for 3 year olds.
Come on people, it's a gimmicky console, with games that have little depth and very little replayability.
Reddish |
I'd agree... sort of. I don't think the console is going to be that 'revolutionary' as far as new market sectors go. Sure, you get the few reports here and there of random gamer's wives/mothers/grandparents becoming addicted to Wii Sports, but that's because its Wii Sports. That game IS aimed at everyone. You can't target that audience.
But if you go into the rest of the games... There not all aimed at children, (but a lot are.) For instance I really can't see an eight year old playing Red Steel.
| reddishblue wrote: |
| You can say it's for young kids and up, but the fact remains, if it is made so a young kid can play it, then it is easy and immature. Also, if anyone accuses me of being a lover of shooting games and the like, just stop there, I am more of an RPG fan |
Not true, really. Wii Sports I find quite fun, but my six-year-old neighbor can beat me at tennis. And plenty of non-gamers enjoy the bowling. But games like that are hard to find around. The only real other one even similar to it is WarioWare, but I can't imagine that has a wide age appeal...
And it does suck there aren't any really good replayability games out there yet... Wii Sports seems to be the best in that area, maybe Play. And I can't name a single RPG for the Wii yet. I'm waiting for Fire Emblem: Goddess of Dawn. Now that should be good.
| LostOverThere wrote: |
Forum eh? Well Here's my opinion. Yes Nintendo games may seem to be aimed at kids, but they are aimed at everyone.
Kids are part of everyone. |
You deserve your opinion, but come on, at least try to back it up, my posts on this topic are always at least five lines long, explaining why I believe what I believe, I wish you would show the same effort.
Also, could someone explain what is so good about it. I have a friend who has it and I've played with him a few times, and the only game in it that doesn't bore the crap out of me is Baseball, because it isn't so much about the flawed points system, honestly, you should be able to get just as good scores when you just start as when you have been playing for months. I hate how my friend is no better then me in real life, but in the Mii world, he kicks my but.
Edit: Also, if the Wii gets a very realistic fencing game, then I will buy it, but it sure as hell better not be some Zelda game that pretends to be like life, does anyone know if any such game is coming?
Reddish
| reddishblue wrote: |
| Edit: Also, if the Wii gets a very realistic fencing game, then I will buy it, but it sure as hell better not be some Zelda game that pretends to be like life, does anyone know if any such game is coming? |
Not sure if you saw this, was a couple pages back:
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"Livemove" is developed by a company called "Ailive" and in late October of '06 announced a partnership with Nintendo offering the use of their program to developers.
In short "Livemove" is a program developers can purchase and can then eliminate the need to spend weeks writing complicated code for the motion controls. Instead they will use the programs tools to capture motions and unlike most current games the program will allow Gesture specific controls instead of just tilt and accelerometer controls.
IE: swinging the wiimote in Zelda makes Link swing his sword in a set series of swings that do not necessarily mimic you're swings. (The accelerometer triggers this interaction)
With "Livemove": you swing up and down, and so will Link.
Learn more here: http://www.ailive.net/
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I agree about Twilight Princess being an absolute waste of the controller. You might as well not use the technology if I can wiggle my wrist while Link performs stunning combos...
What I would prefer to see for the Wii is something like an Action-style RPG... If anyone remembers Gladius, something like that. Except the small challenges in between would be involving either a mini-sword duel, (thik that one Smooth Moves boss) or something of that nature, or to cast a spell, a short period of time to trace the correct rune. Or just have an action game that required skill with the wiimote and a button held to cast magic. Which would mean you would have to have actual swordsmanship...
^^
Thanks, if any such game comes out I will probably buy a Wii for it, fencing has been a dream for me for some time and I would really like to be able to do it in a realistic but safe way.
I hope developers make use of the technology on offer there, it would make for some mindblowing games.
Reddish
I've got a Wii, its very cool.. I just bought a new game, Call of Duty 3.. Nice dudes! Wireless play, Internet, Movies, Music, News, Weather, Mii Channel.. You all should buy it!
Smash Bros Brawl is the BIGGEST hit of the year!
Does anyone know when will it be released???
This year doesn't it? 
SSB probably won't be out in awhile. I think Super Mario Galaxy will also take a lot of time to come out.
| Seiji wrote: |
| SSB probably won't be out in awhile. I think Super Mario Galaxy will also take a lot of time to come out. |
That's too bad...
They are both great games! Or at least look like great games, hopefully they would arrive before Chirstmas. 
Whether the Wii will be the underdog that rises and well, trashes its competitors remains to be seen. While the other two consoles are focusing on better power, graphics and games, Nintendo has branched out from it's "safe" series, the Pokemon, a steady money earner. With good graphics, maybe a tad bit worse off than the Xbox or the Playstation, it instead branches out into more innovative technology, such as it's new controller. It opens up previously unthinkable areas, such as controlling the way you swing a sword or whack a tennis ball. No one would belive that this technology was totally unheard of a few years ago. But the Nintendo boys really pulled a rabbit out of the hat, and come out with this beauty called the Wii, which I feel has a VERY good chance of winning the console race.
we just got the wii a couple week ago and it has to be the best machine ever built. Sure the graphics aren't as pretty, but damn it is fun to play. wii sports->tennis owns.
the only game that i play other than wii sports is zelda. I'm still waiting for better games to come out. does anyone know when super smash bros. wiill be released?
Its slated for a 2007 release, the only thing people are sure about is that it'll be before Christmas. Check out this site, I'm sure you'll find it interesting and when the launch date's announced, it'll be here first:
http://www.smashbros.com
thanks, looks like it'll be just awsome. Hopefully it's better than melee which was an awsome game. I wish the screenshots at that site were a tad bigger
I'm still trying to get the Wii but even in my area they get sold out way too fast. Once it's in stock i plan to get one. The game i'm most interested so far would be Metroid Prime 3: Corruption and Mario Galaxy. I've seen trailers on the games and it got me hooked on the wii.