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reallyjoel
I see sticky's for PS3 and Xbox360, but not alot of love for Nintendo or specifically the Wii.

I'm definately getting a Wii, and I don't actually know anyone whose choice isn't the Wii.
We've also had a 360 at our schools (game design at uni) "games room" since launch, but the most anyone ever played on that is a bit of Hexic, or whatever it's called. I think even the old Xbox has seen more action.

And as for hitting weakspots to deal massive damage? Well.. it's a bit been there, done that, dont'cha think?
Sergiy
<James007>ALWAYS MENTION THE SOURCE + USE QUOTE TAGS, POST REMOVED</James007>
Yantaal
wtf? why on earth did you just type that speck? point grabbing maybe?


and i agree i am getting a wii, without question
Loghete
Sergiy, use quote tags if you took that from another place.
And it was quite unmotivated.

I'll be getting a Wii, though it will be quite expensive here in Finland...
Motoracer380
seems really cool ide like to get one
eLto
10 reasons why the PS3 beats all you nintendo fanboys:

1 Nvidia RSX GPU.
2 Cell CPU with 8 dual-cores
3 Bluetooth
4 Blu-Ray (54 GB storage space)
5 Hard drive
6 wireless controllers with motion sensibilty, ergonomically shaped
7 Memory slots for various types of media
8 Support for 7 controllers
9 Plays all sorts of media (mp3, wav, avi, mpg etc.)
10 It looks tons cooler

I know you people like nintendo, and don't get me wrong, so did I, until the N64 came out, still using cartridges. Zelda was GREAT, Goldeneye was GREAT, perfect dark was GREAT, and hell, even diddy kong racing was fun, but nintendo seems to always aim for children and new playing styles, whereas sony (and microsuck) aim for the mainstream masses of multimedia, and therefore get way better performing consoles.


Anyway, that's my opinion, and your opinions are yours. Nothing I can do about it.
Whong
eLto wrote:
10 reasons why the PS3 beats all you nintendo fanboys:

1 Nvidia RSX GPU.
2 Cell CPU with 8 dual-cores
3 Bluetooth
4 Blu-Ray (54 GB storage space)
5 Hard drive
6 wireless controllers with motion sensibilty, ergonomically shaped
7 Memory slots for various types of media
8 Support for 7 controllers
9 Plays all sorts of media (mp3, wav, avi, mpg etc.)
10 It looks tons cooler

I know you people like nintendo, and don't get me wrong, so did I, until the N64 came out, still using cartridges. Zelda was GREAT, Goldeneye was GREAT, perfect dark was GREAT, and hell, even diddy kong racing was fun, but nintendo seems to always aim for children and new playing styles, whereas sony (and microsuck) aim for the mainstream masses of multimedia, and therefore get way better performing consoles.


Anyway, that's my opinion, and your opinions are yours. Nothing I can do about it.


But PS3 is just an upgrade from the PS2, but Wii is something totally different than Game Cube!

PS3 is more powerful, yes, but Wii will win the market, people will buy Wii but not PS3 that much!Very HappyVery HappyVery Happy
Loghete
eLto wrote:
10 reasons why the PS3 beats all you nintendo fanboys:

1 Nvidia RSX GPU.
2 Cell CPU with 8 dual-cores
3 Bluetooth
4 Blu-Ray (54 GB storage space)
5 Hard drive
6 wireless controllers with motion sensibilty, ergonomically shaped
7 Memory slots for various types of media
8 Support for 7 controllers
9 Plays all sorts of media (mp3, wav, avi, mpg etc.)
10 It looks tons cooler

I know you people like nintendo, and don't get me wrong, so did I, until the N64 came out, still using cartridges. Zelda was GREAT, Goldeneye was GREAT, perfect dark was GREAT, and hell, even diddy kong racing was fun, but nintendo seems to always aim for children and new playing styles, whereas sony (and microsuck) aim for the mainstream masses of multimedia, and therefore get way better performing consoles.


Anyway, that's my opinion, and your opinions are yours. Nothing I can do about it.


If I want a powerful machine I buy a good computer, that I can upgrade later.
But if I want an unique and funny console, I buy a Wii.
Saryon
PS3 just has nice graphics, nothing new actually, just the same old thing.
Wii instead, I mean, look at that thing. Great design, really innovating. They actually came up with something comepletely new, which deserves a lot of credit in my opinion.
You play Nintendo for the gameplay mainly, and not the graphics. Even though they don't look bad at all.

If you want a fast, nice looking console, pick PS3.
If you want nice looking, innovating and lots of gameplay, pick Wii.

I'll definately get a Wii as soon as it comes out, not doubt.
servant2work4god
It seems that at time goes on, Microsoft and Sony both seem to be trying to label suped up computers as video game systems sporting their own custom Operating System and controller ports... Games like theirs can be played for similar money on a computer and still have all the functionality of a Computer and not just what someone decided to slap on a console... fun is not about stats... it's about being entertained. As far as I'm concerned the wii shows far more promise of being entertaining then the 360 or ps3...

Also I have played the 360, and it's pretty, but one of the better games, Dead or Alive, is nothing more then an arcade fighter with online support... doesn't matter how 3d, pretty, or more accurate the game and fighting is... it's still a 1 on 1 fighter where newbies button mash and experienced players use memorized button combinations... boring....

sorry for the rant, just can't wait to actually do something new for a change...
Kelcey
reallyjoel wrote:

And as for hitting weakspots to deal massive damage? Well.. it's a bit been there, done that, dont'cha think?


I thought this was a Wii thread, not a PS3 bashing thread.
Kelcey
Whong wrote:


But PS3 is just an upgrade from the PS2, but Wii is something totally different than Game Cube!


So you need "something totally different," otherwise you won't buy it? Could you (if you have a cube + n64) explain to me why you have a gamecube and games that don't use innovative controllers? The gamecube was just an upgrade from the N64. But did you buy it? If you did buy a cube, then you're stating there's no problem buying something that's "just an upgrade" over the previous system.

edit: sorry for the double post... meant to edit the other one
runarl
I dont know what console im gonna get. I hear ps3 is like a multimedia, but d'know yet...
LostOverThere
Quote:
but nintendo seems to always aim for children and new playing styles


Oh Sure! That would explain the 10 or so Wii Release Games that are rated 'Mature'
moejoe
The Specs are for PS3...And dude, they are amazing. Have you seen the Kill Zone 2 Video?
Damn...

lol,
Check out this Video, Wii VS PS3.
Sooooooo Right.
Yet Soo Rong:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDZGYqquSr0

Also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZJw9sbOTsc
^Which is a great Video. LOL.
Whong
Saryon wrote:
PS3 just has nice graphics, nothing new actually, just the same old thing.
Wii instead, I mean, look at that thing. Great design, really innovating. They actually came up with something comepletely new, which deserves a lot of credit in my opinion.
You play Nintendo for the gameplay mainly, and not the graphics. Even though they don't look bad at all.

If you want a fast, nice looking console, pick PS3.
If you want nice looking, innovating and lots of gameplay, pick Wii.

I'll definately get a Wii as soon as it comes out, not doubt.


I definitely agree with you Saryon, that's the way things are, PS3 just an upgrade of PS2, Wii much more than an upgrade of GC.

Kelcey wrote:
So you need "something totally different," otherwise you won't buy it? Could you (if you have a cube + n64) explain to me why you have a gamecube and games that don't use innovative controllers? The gamecube was just an upgrade from the N64. But did you buy it? If you did buy a cube, then you're stating there's no problem buying something that's "just an upgrade" over the previous system.


At that time there was nothing more innovative, but now that there is I wouldn't like to just spend almost 2.5 times more money for only an upgrade. Wii is cheap, but really good still. You of course can buy a PS3, but most here want a Wii, because we need something different and new!Very Happy
BigRog
the wii will be the best nintendo system yet. the fact that you can buy every classic nintendo game is awsome. fist thing i do is buy all the zelda games for it. nintendo has always been my favorite video game company. without them we wouldnt know mario or luigi. how could you live without are two favorite plumbers?
QrafTee
eLto wrote:
10 reasons why the PS3 beats all you nintendo fanboys:

1 Nvidia RSX GPU.
2 Cell CPU with 8 dual-cores
3 Bluetooth
4 Blu-Ray (54 GB storage space)
5 Hard drive
6 wireless controllers with motion sensibilty, ergonomically shaped
7 Memory slots for various types of media
8 Support for 7 controllers
9 Plays all sorts of media (mp3, wav, avi, mpg etc.)
10 It looks tons cooler

I know you people like nintendo, and don't get me wrong, so did I, until the N64 came out, still using cartridges. Zelda was GREAT, Goldeneye was GREAT, perfect dark was GREAT, and hell, even diddy kong racing was fun, but nintendo seems to always aim for children and new playing styles, whereas sony (and microsuck) aim for the mainstream masses of multimedia, and therefore get way better performing consoles.


Anyway, that's my opinion, and your opinions are yours. Nothing I can do about it.

Alright, so let's run down the list:
1. Wow, a new nVidia graphics card... okay, I am probably getting one in my new laptop (if HP doesn't fight against me too hard).
2. Cell CPU, impressive indeed. It's a powerful chip, but will it be used to its fullest potential? Perhaps... perhaps not. And if it does, what's keeping the PS3 from total meltdown? More power = More heat. Funny how we don't get a spec of it's cooling system.
3. Bluetooth, okay... I don't care.
4. Blu-Ray, again impressive. This one is actually one of the big ones of the PS3. However, it would've been better if Sony established a firm ground for the Blu-Ray already (like beating the HD-DVD) then have the PS3 serve as a foundation for the Blu-Ray. I really like the Blu-Ray, so I hope Sony doesn't screw it up like it did the UMD... then again I didn't like the UMD or PSP to begin with...
5. Hard drive... my computer has one. Whoopdeedoo...
6. Wireless controller... you basically ripped the Wiimote off... Yes, you did look into the technology after the PS2's Dual Shock 2, but you never executed anything remotely like it until the Wii wowed the crowd with their Wiimote. And taking away the rumble feature? Man, that's low especially since the console costs a lot already. Should've just pulled a Microsoft and throw money at your problems to get the right to keep the rumble feature.
7. Memory slots for various types of media? Like what? I am a gamer and I only need to get what I need for gaming. I don't need a 12-in-1 media card reader or whatever the hell the PS3 has in it. Flash drive, okay, that's understandable, USB, obviously. Other crap, that's just more reason to take money from me.
8. Support for 7 controllers. Umm... what just happened here? How did we get from 8 to 7? I guess in Sony's perspective it's pretty good since they only offered 2 controller ports to begin with on their older consoles (something which I hated, but man I still love that original PS).
9. I can care less. How am I on this forum? I have a COMPUTER! That's how! I can play all those media. And they're basically the same type of media, they've audio/video files. Get a grip and don't make it look like it's more than it is.
10. Yes... I have to agree the George Foreman-grill look is quite stylish... well I don't like it, but I'm sure some people do.
Robbin
Shooters will be alot of fun on the Wii, especially when they design a controller shaped like a Thompson or something (although I really doubt Nintendo would do something like that). However, I had bad expiriences(?) with Nintendo, so I won't get one.
benwhite
I'd personally like both. If I had a good TV, I'd love to use a ps3 to play blu-rays. Not really a factor.

I'll be a wii because I missed out on the gc and I'm looking forward to playing some of the titles like Metroid, Zelda, Mario, and SSB. Nintendo always has great titles for their flagship series, and I missed a bunch--I'm really looking forward to it. Besides, I'm definitely not going to put up the cash for the ps3 until the price goes down. Way too much money. Wii has a decent pricetag.
eLto
The Wii is "simply an upgrade" of the GC aswell, except it has the "wiimote". So that's what you call it now. infact, compared to a PS3, the wii isn't even a good upgrade. the hardware specs aren't even close to even the 360!
LostOverThere
eLto wrote:
The Wii is "simply an upgrade" of the GC aswell, except it has the "wiimote". So that's what you call it now. infact, compared to a PS3, the wii isn't even a good upgrade. the hardware specs aren't even close to even the 360!


Dude, have you even been reading this thread or the Wii Website!
Interactive gaming system! Move the controller to the right to make the character move to the right!

And Who the Hell even cares if it has Dual Core WhoopDeeCrap, I dont care what the GFX looks like! I just use it to play Games, and have a good time!

And, as a developer, Developers LOVE the Wii, you see, Console Companys have this thing to make Games work on their consoles.

The PS3 Consoles Program costs $20000
The Wii: $1000
Firebolt
A few things i have herd from a couple of computer engineers suggests that the the PS3's extreme power is not for all the gaming power but to power to the blu ray technology.

Now I'm not a huge expert in this subject so I'm pretty much just the messenger but i look at the the graphics comparison between the xbox360 and PS3 and i dont feel that PS3 blows Xbox360 out of the water. Confused
rayx
The console is new to me, not too popular on our country.
bubbleball
Wii will come soon and so interesting. Very Happy
eLto
LostOverThere wrote:
Dude, have you even been reading this thread or the Wii Website!
Interactive gaming system! Move the controller to the right to make the character move to the right!


So does the ps3's "SixAxis"(the new controller), so what's your point? That's just a hardware UPDATE.

Firebolt wrote:
A few things i have herd from a couple of computer engineers suggests that the the PS3's extreme power is not for all the gaming power but to power to the blu ray technology.


Uhm, to answer this very logically; does a computer need higher level hardware to run a DVD-Rom? no. The so-called "Blu-ray technology" is just a disc reader in the system that simply reads blu-ray discs, amongst various other things.
So in other words; the might of the ps3 does not need to power the blu-ray rom.
Whong
eLto wrote:
The Wii is "simply an upgrade" of the GC aswell, except it has the "wiimote". So that's what you call it now. infact, compared to a PS3, the wii isn't even a good upgrade. the hardware specs aren't even close to even the 360!


Hardware specs aren't the only thing that matter. What good is great hardware if the games are lousy. Super Mario Bros 1, 3, Super Mario 64, The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time didn't have very good graphics and the music was midi in Mario 64 and Zelda. Graphically they look very bad now, but they were the best sellers of their time and are still played with a really happy mind. They are great though they don't have such great graphics.

People now a days care only for the specs and graphics, not for the games. A good game is a game which you enjoy playing and want to play it as soon as you can. The quality of games are becoming bad because we only care about the power and ablities of the consoles and not the actual games!
QrafTee
Firebolt wrote:
A few things i have herd from a couple of computer engineers suggests that the the PS3's extreme power is not for all the gaming power but to power to the blu ray technology.

Now I'm not a huge expert in this subject so I'm pretty much just the messenger but i look at the the graphics comparison between the xbox360 and PS3 and i dont feel that PS3 blows Xbox360 out of the water. Confused

Well there's a simple answer for that, when you compare the graphics side by side, you will not be able to see a difference (unless you're a Gfx dweeb) as there is a limit to nowadays graphics. Remember when Final Fantasy VII's graphics was all cool? And then Square Enix proved it could do better with the hardware in the Playstation with Final Fantasy VIII and IX? It just means though they look the same now, the 360's limit will be reached first before the PS3's. I do admit though, I don't care about graphics too much, I care more about gameplay. Thus I'm hoping Square Enix brings some real Final Fantasy games to the Wii. Yes... I do know Sony holds a lot of stock in Square Enix, but so does Nintendo.

eLto wrote:
LostOverThere wrote:
Dude, have you even been reading this thread or the Wii Website!
Interactive gaming system! Move the controller to the right to make the character move to the right!


So does the ps3's "SixAxis"(the new controller), so what's your point? That's just a hardware UPDATE.

Firebolt wrote:
A few things i have herd from a couple of computer engineers suggests that the the PS3's extreme power is not for all the gaming power but to power to the blu ray technology.


Uhm, to answer this very logically; does a computer need higher level hardware to run a DVD-Rom? no. The so-called "Blu-ray technology" is just a disc reader in the system that simply reads blu-ray discs, amongst various other things.
So in other words; the might of the ps3 does not need to power the blu-ray rom.

Yes this six-axis rip-off is great... I mean the six-axis controller is nice... eh... whatever. The point is in terms of it being able to sense motion, it is quite inferior to the Wii's remote. This is not debatable, and if you want to debate it, you already said you're a Sony fanboy and debating with you about it would be meaningless.

Well you might be right about the Blu-ray thing. However have you thought about it? The Blu-ray is a new piece of equipment. And the reason DVD-rom don't need "higher level hardware" is because it is built-in the DVD-rom itself. Surprised? Check your computer, you can take out the DVD-rom and it will be in a rectangular box that has hardware in it. Amazing, I know. And can Pentium 1 computers use DVD-rom? No, huh? I guess that means higher-level hardware is needed to power certain things like DVD-roms or Blu-ray readers. Of course, I could just be totally wrong. I do that sometimes.
eLto
Funny you should say that, and you do seem to prove a point, exept, I've seen a DVD rom actually functioning on a pentium 1. The only problem with that was that the pentium 1 was too old to run Win98, which had all the necessary drivers.

I also know debating is pointless, since I'm a sony fanboy, but I'm not as partial as you might think. I've played my share of nintendo games. Mario? all of them, except spin-offs like paper mario and mario tennis. Zelda? I actually bought a gamecube 3 years ago just so I could play Windwaker and Ocarina of time again. I sold it when I was done with them, but I'm just proving that I'm also open for nintendo. What I want to prove to you guys(which some of you are a bit too persistent to realize) is that the possibilites on the ps3 is better than eny of the other two next gen consoles. The Wii will never measure up to the ps3 graphic-wise, and the 360 will never be as fun as the wii, since it has no hardware extras like the ps3 and wii.

I'm not THAT partial to sony, but the 360 is definetily the worst of the three next-gen consoles, but wii is the lesser in power. That's all I'm trying to tell you, and all I'm trying to prove.

Can you admit I'm right now? Smile
reddishblue
Well i have noticed that everyone seems to ignore the Wii, like in a gaming mag they reviewed the 360 the PS3 but not the Wii, guess games that have gameplay instead of great graphics are rare and unpopular now...
Yantaal
i noticed you used ps3 motion sensor and ergonomic design controller.


1, its a rip of the Wii
2, the wii is based on a freakin TV remote, whats more ergonomic thant that?

dumbass
QrafTee
eLto wrote:
Funny you should say that, and you do seem to prove a point, exept, I've seen a DVD rom actually functioning on a pentium 1. The only problem with that was that the pentium 1 was too old to run Win98, which had all the necessary drivers.

I also know debating is pointless, since I'm a sony fanboy, but I'm not as partial as you might think. I've played my share of nintendo games. Mario? all of them, except spin-offs like paper mario and mario tennis. Zelda? I actually bought a gamecube 3 years ago just so I could play Windwaker and Ocarina of time again. I sold it when I was done with them, but I'm just proving that I'm also open for nintendo. What I want to prove to you guys(which some of you are a bit too persistent to realize) is that the possibilites on the ps3 is better than eny of the other two next gen consoles. The Wii will never measure up to the ps3 graphic-wise, and the 360 will never be as fun as the wii, since it has no hardware extras like the ps3 and wii.

I'm not THAT partial to sony, but the 360 is definetily the worst of the three next-gen consoles, but wii is the lesser in power. That's all I'm trying to tell you, and all I'm trying to prove.

Can you admit I'm right now? Smile

Hey, I've never ever said that the Wii can compete with the PS3 graphics-wise. I'm not a fanboy of any one console, but it's too easy when people want to compare pure graphics as I believe it is the gameplay that is important, not the graphics. Yes, it's a nice bonus and yes there must be a standard for graphics, but unless Nintendo has reverted to pure 2-D 32-bit graphics, I'm pretty fine with the Wii.

As of now, I still say the 360 and the PS3 are about the same with PS3 having better chances of having a better variety of games. However Halo 3 must be noted and Bill Gates threw money at former Final Fantasy series developer to receive Blue Dragon.

Basically:
Sony has Square Enix (via saving them from The Spirits Within) and hot games like Metal Gear Solid 4 with the power and graphics to back it up.

Microsoft has money to throw at people to get companies on their side (Rare first, now getting Blue Dragon) with power and nice graphics.

Nintendo has innovation and fanfavorite games (Zelda, Mario, Super Smash Bros.) with the ability not to overheat and cause a total meltdown.

Still skeptical about the PS3's cooling system.
Kelcey
Whong wrote:


Kelcey wrote:
So you need "something totally different," otherwise you won't buy it? Could you (if you have a cube + n64) explain to me why you have a gamecube and games that don't use innovative controllers? The gamecube was just an upgrade from the N64. But did you buy it? If you did buy a cube, then you're stating there's no problem buying something that's "just an upgrade" over the previous system.


At that time there was nothing more innovative, but now that there is I wouldn't like to just spend almost 2.5 times more money for only an upgrade. Wii is cheap, but really good still. You of course can buy a PS3, but most here want a Wii, because we need something different and new!Very Happy


So are you saying if Sony released a Wii back when the cube was around, you wouldn't have purchased a gamecube knowing that Zelda, Metroid, Mario, and Starfox would be on it?


QrafTee wrote:

Alright, so let's run down the list:
2. Cell CPU, impressive indeed. It's a powerful chip, but will it be used to its fullest potential? Perhaps... perhaps not. And if it does, what's keeping the PS3 from total meltdown? More power = More heat. Funny how we don't get a spec of it's cooling system.


Yeah Sony is dumb as heck, but I'd say it's a pretty safe bet that developers will be able to use all of the Cell's power.

QrafTee wrote:

3. Bluetooth, okay... I don't care.


Me neither.

QrafTee wrote:

4. Blu-Ray, again impressive. This one is actually one of the big ones of the PS3. However, it would've been better if Sony established a firm ground for the Blu-Ray already (like beating the HD-DVD) then have the PS3 serve as a foundation for the Blu-Ray. I really like the Blu-Ray, so I hope Sony doesn't screw it up like it did the UMD... then again I didn't like the UMD or PSP to begin with...


Hopefully for those that get a PS3, blu-ray doesn't die. However, if it does, it's still there for storage (don't wanna argue about that). Whether or not that is gonna be important is YET to be seen.

QrafTee wrote:

5. Hard drive... my computer has one. Whoopdeedoo...


I personally love the hard drive. Use it for caching to make games load faster. Not have to worry about a bloody memory card and I can save games all I want without having to worry. As far as content goes... storing demos so I can test out the games is great. I don't care for trailers and what not though. In my opinion, MS did a great thing introducing hard drives to consoles.

QrafTee wrote:

7. Memory slots for various types of media? Like what? I am a gamer and I only need to get what I need for gaming. I don't need a 12-in-1 media card reader or whatever the hell the PS3 has in it. Flash drive, okay, that's understandable, USB, obviously. Other crap, that's just more reason to take money from me.


Yup, don't like the memory slots either.

QrafTee wrote:

9. I can care less. How am I on this forum? I have a COMPUTER! That's how! I can play all those media. And they're basically the same type of media, they've audio/video files. Get a grip and don't make it look like it's more than it is.


Same here, don't care about media other than demos (so I can test the game out before I buy it.)


eLto wrote:
Funny you should say that, and you do seem to prove a point, exept, I've seen a DVD rom actually functioning on a pentium 1. The only problem with that was that the pentium 1 was too old to run Win98, which had all the necessary drivers.

I also know debating is pointless, since I'm a sony fanboy, but I'm not as partial as you might think. I've played my share of nintendo games. Mario? all of them, except spin-offs like paper mario and mario tennis. Zelda? I actually bought a gamecube 3 years ago just so I could play Windwaker and Ocarina of time again. I sold it when I was done with them, but I'm just proving that I'm also open for nintendo. What I want to prove to you guys(which some of you are a bit too persistent to realize) is that the possibilites on the ps3 is better than eny of the other two next gen consoles. The Wii will never measure up to the ps3 graphic-wise, and the 360 will never be as fun as the wii, since it has no hardware extras like the ps3 and wii.

I'm not THAT partial to sony, but the 360 is definetily the worst of the three next-gen consoles, but wii is the lesser in power. That's all I'm trying to tell you, and all I'm trying to prove.

Can you admit I'm right now? Smile


Well it's all about the games and NOT the hardware. For the Nintendo fans, that includes the Wiimote. Just because the PS3 is a power monster DOESN'T mean we're gonna get amazing looking games sprinkling down upon us 24/7. There are plenty of sub par ps3 games out there already. As far as the Wii is concerned, don't think that every game is instantly the funnest game you've ever played just because of the controller. Nothing is given in this generation so debating about the hardware doesn't tell anyone which system is "better." A system is better for an individual based on what the individual likes. You could have the PS3 power + Wii controller with Final Fantasy/Mario/Zelda/GTA and every other franchise out there. But if the person likes Halo and hates all the other franchises, why should that person bother with that type of system if what HE/SHE likes is on a different system?
Whong
Well I'm a Nintendo fan and will most probably never buy anything else.

The hardware on the Wii is enough for me, since I don't really care about the graphics. Very Happy
Nintendo Wii is coming soon!
evanc88
Virtual Console is what sells the Wii to me. Of course I would've bought one because of the price, the plethora of awesome multiplayer games, and the newness of it just because I have to have everything new, but add all of that to SNES, NES, Genesis, etc games? Psh. I'm there.
Whong
evanc88 wrote:
Virtual Console is what sells the Wii to me. Of course I would've bought one because of the price, the plethora of awesome multiplayer games, and the newness of it just because I have to have everything new, but add all of that to SNES, NES, Genesis, etc games? Psh. I'm there.


Yep, those points make Wii an excellent console and that that it is so cheap!

PS3 and Xbox 360 are great consoles too, but the price is a thing that makes them not so easily buyable! Idea
DopeyCriz
Wii
I have some information.

WII Console will be sold in UK at £180.

"So committed is it to not entering to a specs battle with Sony and Microsoft that Nintendo will simply not reveal the exact nature of the technology sitting beneath Wii's refined off-white exterior, stating only that CPU, codenamed 'Broadway', is a PowerPC-based unit 'Joint-Engineered' with IBM, and that the GPU is an Ati-Designed solution.

It is keen, however, to play up the platform's 512MB of internal flash memory, used for Virtual Console downloads, etc. Additional memory can be added by simply using SD cards, although Nintendo has yet to confirm whether Wii will be compatible with the SD-HC (High Capacity) format, which currently tops out at 8GB. Regardless, 2GB SD cards at around £40 each will surely prove popular options.

Externally, the Wii hardware features a standard Ninteno-style AV-out port, running to component (supporting up to 480p), composite or S-video; two standard USB 2.0 ports; an SD flash memory card slot; two GameCube memory card slots; and four GameCube controller ports (also compatible with WaveBird controllers). The facisa, meanwhile, features three buttons (Power, Reset, Eject) and a flap, which covers the SD card, memory card and joypad ports (the USB 2.0 ports are situaed at the console's rear).

In terms of connectivity, the Wii console will communicate via Wi-Fi to DS units (for downloading game demos and other content, and possibly for messaging in the future), and can be routed to internet via a USB 2.0 LAN adapter if a Wi-Fi network is unavailable.

Standing just 157mm wide, 215.4mm tall and 44mm thick, Wii is small enough to fit into even the most cluttered AV setups, although it gains stature when placed in its stand, which comes packed into every box. The slightly ghostly blue which emanates from its disc slot, meanwhile, ensures it a vibe unlike any other game console's.

Remote
(One packed in; Additional Unit: £30)

The primary method of Wii input links to the console via a Bluetooth connection with the sensor bar, and can be used at a range of up to ten metres (effective for five metres with applications that use pointing inputs), with up to four in use simulaneously. User preferences, including Wii Mii avatars, can be saved to 6KB of onboard memory. Power is supplied via two AA batteries, and although Nintendo estimates 60 hours' use in simple accelerometer-based games, this will drop significantly with more intensive applications and when used in conjunction with the Nunchuk add-on. The unit's underside features a trigger-style 'B' button and also a 'sync' button, serving to tie multiple controller inputs to their respective players. The Remot also features built-in rumble and a small onboard speaker.

Nunchuk
(One packed in; Additional Unit: £15)

Connecting to the Remote via a short cable (it cannot be used solely on its own), the Nunchuk also features accelerometer technology or motion-based input. Of more obvious use is its analogue joystick, whose design is modelled on Nintendo's GameCube controller template. The Nunchuk's underside features two buttons, 'C' and 'Z', the latter fashioned in a more obvious trigger shape than the Remote's 'B' button.

Because it does not require batteries, the Nunchuk feels unusually light in operation, although the inclusion of a rumble facility ensures that it has a tactile quality.

Classic Controller
(£15)

Available seperately at launch, the Classic Controller is essentially a hybrid of Nintendo's SNES and GameCube joypads - Whichit has to be, since it is intended as a catch-all device for Virtual Console NES, SNES, N64, Mega Drive and Turbo Grafx games (and, concievably, independently produced releases). Smaller than you'd expect (at 65.7mm x 135.7mm x 26mm), along with 'X', 'Y', 'A' and 'B' face buttons it features 'L' and 'R' shoulder buttons, plus 'Z1' and 'Z2'. Between these, a further button opens slots on the joypad's rear, although the purpose of these apertures remains unclear at the time of writing. Like the Nunchuk, the Classic Controller must be connected to a Remote via a cable.

Sensor Bar

Placed on or around your television (either above or below the screen - it can be placed in its own cradle), the sensor bar handles Remote input via a reciever at each end. Approximately 200mm wide, it is unobtrusive, and styled to look as innocuous as possible. At the heart of the Wii experience, its reliability in tests is proven, although it is reported to be sensitive to strong halogen lights situated either directly above or below, which can interfere with its performance.

Credits

Edge Magazine
(For the information above)

Me
(For typing it)

I took a whole section of a certain part of the magazine, this is ACCURATE information. I hope this information helps you decides if you want to get it or not.

Don't ask me questions...
eLto
you people keep answering my questions with more questions. I admit that the wii probably will be funny, if you like it. All I want, is for one of you damned nintendo fanboys to ADMIT that the nintendo will be the lesser console, as opposed to what GameCube was/is. The gamecube is infact better than the ps2, graphics wise.

so all I want is a yes from one of you guys.
Zpanzer
well, ill wait to see if its something for me if the local stores here gets it as a demo, i really like the idea of the new control, sounds really really cool, but i can imagine a long row of people standing infront of the test monitor with it connected, flapping their hands round like idiots Very Happy
SyncM
Really waiting for Wii. Have seen some screen shot of Zelda game and it looks really good. The most interesting is if wii will be a success is what gone happened next generation if xbox and ps will get gyro controlls. That's will be cool
ashok
It seems that at time goes on, Microsoft and Sony both seem to be trying to label suped up computers as video game systems sporting their own custom Operating System and controller ports... Games like theirs can be played for similar money on a computer and still have all the functionality of a Computer and not just what someone decided to slap on a console...
enygmasoft
Everyone else is always playing catchup when it comes to controller design. Supeer Nintedo came out with 6 buttons, Genesis followed suit. N64 came out with the analog stick. Playstation copies it. And Now the WII controller is being copied again now by ps3. Innovative designs, which I stick with my nintendo systems.
Somemanbearpig
i cant wait until the wii's launch... a couple of weeks Razz
QrafTee
enygmasoft wrote:
Everyone else is always playing catchup when it comes to controller design. Supeer Nintedo came out with 6 buttons, Genesis followed suit. N64 came out with the analog stick. Playstation copies it. And Now the WII controller is being copied again now by ps3. Innovative designs, which I stick with my nintendo systems.

Well this is how it goes: Nintendo copied Atari, but Atari went further ahead of its time and died.
This is how Nintendo thinks, "What can we do to make gaming better, but not make it so improbable to use as a gaming controller?"
This is why they slowly worked in shoulder buttons. Then rumble feature, then wireless, and then finally motion sensor.
Now they aren't the first people who've tried these things, but they've been the most successful in making it work and making people want it, anyone can argue this, but then they'd be wrong fanboys.
What's next? A Nintendo controller with fans? It's been done, but it isn't popular. I doubt it though because Nintendo works to try to make gaming feel better rather than things like fans, then again Nintendo is as predictable as a boy hitting puberty.
ItsWesley
enygmasoft wrote:
Everyone else is always playing catchup when it comes to controller design. Supeer Nintedo came out with 6 buttons, Genesis followed suit. N64 came out with the analog stick. Playstation copies it. And Now the WII controller is being copied again now by ps3. Innovative designs, which I stick with my nintendo systems.

Sony didn't just copy the analog stick and rumble, they made them better.
Who came up with the idea of TWO analog sticks? Sony, and they also made the rumble implimented into controllers so you didn't have to buy loads of batteries.
eLto
That's true, the analog stick on the N64 controllers got broken pretty fast. My PSOne controllers still work, and they're 8 years old.
nf777
lol^ u right about the control , but i like the feature of download old nes games i want double dragon 2 and mario 3
Yantaal
yes- i have pre orderd my Wii

no- i will not be seen for about a week after i get it

yes- i will buy a mini lava lamp to plug into one of its usb ports
Whong
eLto wrote:
That's true, the analog stick on the N64 controllers got broken pretty fast. My PSOne controllers still work, and they're 8 years old.



My N64 controlers analog stick work very well even now and it is 9 years old!Very HappyVery HappyVery HappyVery Happy

And GameCube controlers too, and they are 4-5 years old!Very Happy
sfauzia
like eric cartman on south park 10x12 episode... i really want it! i'm a big nintendo fan since 18years ago... and a new nintendo hardware is for me always a big event!
kemosabi107
sfauzia wrote:
like eric cartman on south park 10x12 episode... i really want it! i'm a big nintendo fan since 18years ago... and a new nintendo hardware is for me always a big event!


haha, cartman... him and butters make the show. that episode was crazy though, i can't believe they were allowed to show some of that stuff!
Machan
my opinion on this whole PS3 vs XBOX 360 vs Wii is that the PS3 is pretty much worthless, xbox will come out top, and the wii will do decently. The PS3 costs too much because it includes unnecessary stuff and it isn't upgradable. The xbox is for the people who love FPS and action games, while the wii is action, rpg, and adventure. The ps3 doesn't seem to have like any good games for it, or they are already on a different console.
BlockUp
I have preorded my Wii, and I am looking forward to getting it in a month's time. What i just can't understand is why people get so frustrated arguing about which console is best. Surely it doesn't matter, because they are all great? I think each console has it's own strong point; Xbox360 > Graphics and range of games, PS3 > Blu Ray and excellent graphics, Wii > Interactivity, fun, the ability to get involved with the game.

I also think that Nintendo are doing their best to stand out from the crowd as the gaming company that is most interested in the experience that gamers get when playing on their consoles. The Nintendo DS had the Touch Generations games, which were targetted at people who had never ever played on consoles. The DS itself was meant to bring more interactivity (however limited it may have been) to gaming. All in all, Nintendo are looking at how gamers can get really involved, and I truly think they have broken a barrier with the Wii. I can't wait to get mine!
INeedHelp
I can't wait for the Wii! That and the DS will combine to make a great generation of gaming. I have already purchased a 360 for my powerhouse, so now I will sit back and enjoy the games both companies throw at me. I am jumping off the Sony bandwagon, at least for a little while. What Sony just did disgusts me. If you haven't read, go to www.lik-sang.com. I don't know if any of you ever purchased something from this site, but they were great. It was a sad thing to see them go.
Fire Boar
eLto wrote:
you people keep answering my questions with more questions. I admit that the wii probably will be funny, if you like it. All I want, is for one of you damned nintendo fanboys to ADMIT that the nintendo will be the lesser console, as opposed to what GameCube was/is. The gamecube is infact better than the ps2, graphics wise.

so all I want is a yes from one of you guys.


The Gamecube is in fact better than the PS2, graphics-wise. Then why did the PS2 far outsell the Gamecube? You are saying that a console's success is based on its graphical power. Incorrect. The PS2 beat the Gamecube, yet its graphics were less powerful than the Gamecube's.

The Wii will certainly not be the lesser console. Third-party support is overwhelming it seems. Square Enix is in fact making games for Nintendo again: new Final on both the Wii and DS, among other things. Perhaps you should watch this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Wzmf0ChL24

There. The PS3 has only 4 controller ports, just like the Wii. And the Gamecube. And the XBox. Get your facts right.

"No gimmicks"? What about this?

http://digitalbattle.com/2006/05/09/e3-sony-steals-from-nintendo/

Oh, and back to the lies, let's see this:

"There is no change in our original plan to release the console in spring 2006," - SCE spokesperson Kei Sakaguchi - Feb 2006
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=14821
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=62956
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/01/24/no_sony_ps3_uk_2007/

Whoops.
Cole
I'm definently looking towards the Wii.
It's cheap and innovative and is backed by tons of 3rd party support(what the GC lacked) and has online support(GC also lacked).

Personally the PS3 is "OK". I don't care about Bluray or about the most impressive graphics. I care more about the style of the graphics. For example take WoW and compare it to EQ2. EQ2 dominates it in polygon rates but WoW just has this neat atmosphere and style that draws you in.


Graphics don't mean anything. All that matters is the quality of the games. The Wii allows for a new quality of games. That doesn't always mean better, but there are many games that damn will be better. I can't wait for a neat star wars game for the Wii.
shwetanshu
i will buy a Wii coz i just cant afford PS3
enygmasoft
Nintendo is always first in realizing what the gaming market needs. for one thing, when was the last time a game was innovative, not for graphics, but for gameplay. I can say I had more fun playing galaxian, than I did playing halo. There is major push for developers to create purely icing on the cake experieces. Video games are the new hollywood. Very few games now are inovative gameplay wise. The core no longer matters, for big developers. I'm not about to pretend that the N64 would not have been better served by ad CD-ROM, but the takes massive leaps for Nintendo, because they finally realized us old timers need to be able to keep our collection of game cube games. As terms of hardware specs, it is on the lower rung of the graphics gene pool, but it has enough features to make it a good competitor, regardless.
Cole
Definently will be getting a Wii, my first console since my N64 and Ps1. It's just something new and out there. Thats what I like about it! It isn't the same old thing that makes games slightly better. It's fresh, new, and innovative.
Whong
enygmasoft wrote:
Nintendo is always first in realizing what the gaming market needs. for one thing, when was the last time a game was innovative, not for graphics, but for gameplay. I can say I had more fun playing galaxian, than I did playing halo. There is major push for developers to create purely icing on the cake experieces. Video games are the new hollywood. Very few games now are inovative gameplay wise. The core no longer matters, for big developers. I'm not about to pretend that the N64 would not have been better served by ad CD-ROM, but the takes massive leaps for Nintendo, because they finally realized us old timers need to be able to keep our collection of game cube games. As terms of hardware specs, it is on the lower rung of the graphics gene pool, but it has enough features to make it a good competitor, regardless.


Yes Nintendo knows exactly how to get new gamers interested. Wii is an ideal console for everyone because it is made for everyone! It isn't for kids just, everyone can enjoy it. WiiConnect24 is a great feature, just imagine playing Super Smash Bros Brawl online, how cool is that! It is a really cool thing and the connectivity between Wii and DS is also a great thing.

And Wii doesn't cost much, which gives it the advantage in the market!Very HappyVery HappyVery HappyVery Happy

Want something different? Choose Wii!Very Happy Idea
QrafTee
Whong wrote:
enygmasoft wrote:
Nintendo is always first in realizing what the gaming market needs. for one thing, when was the last time a game was innovative, not for graphics, but for gameplay. I can say I had more fun playing galaxian, than I did playing halo. There is major push for developers to create purely icing on the cake experieces. Video games are the new hollywood. Very few games now are inovative gameplay wise. The core no longer matters, for big developers. I'm not about to pretend that the N64 would not have been better served by ad CD-ROM, but the takes massive leaps for Nintendo, because they finally realized us old timers need to be able to keep our collection of game cube games. As terms of hardware specs, it is on the lower rung of the graphics gene pool, but it has enough features to make it a good competitor, regardless.


Yes Nintendo knows exactly how to get new gamers interested. Wii is an ideal console for everyone because it is made for everyone! It isn't for kids just, everyone can enjoy it. WiiConnect24 is a great feature, just imagine playing Super Smash Bros Brawl online, how cool is that! It is a really cool thing and the connectivity between Wii and DS is also a great thing.

And Wii doesn't cost much, which gives it the advantage in the market!Very HappyVery HappyVery HappyVery Happy

Want something different? Choose Wii!Very Happy Idea

You know what I am surprised about though? Although it's cool and everything. It says it's for everyone, why haven't they cranked up the advertisements? I mean I saw the PS3 ads on TV and they sucked, but at least they have ads telling everyone "Here I come." Nintendo seriously needs to get the word out, since you know it's a Wii.
william
QrafTee wrote:
Whong wrote:
enygmasoft wrote:
Nintendo is always first in realizing what the gaming market needs. for one thing, when was the last time a game was innovative, not for graphics, but for gameplay. I can say I had more fun playing galaxian, than I did playing halo. There is major push for developers to create purely icing on the cake experieces. Video games are the new hollywood. Very few games now are inovative gameplay wise. The core no longer matters, for big developers. I'm not about to pretend that the N64 would not have been better served by ad CD-ROM, but the takes massive leaps for Nintendo, because they finally realized us old timers need to be able to keep our collection of game cube games. As terms of hardware specs, it is on the lower rung of the graphics gene pool, but it has enough features to make it a good competitor, regardless.


Yes Nintendo knows exactly how to get new gamers interested. Wii is an ideal console for everyone because it is made for everyone! It isn't for kids just, everyone can enjoy it. WiiConnect24 is a great feature, just imagine playing Super Smash Bros Brawl online, how cool is that! It is a really cool thing and the connectivity between Wii and DS is also a great thing.

And Wii doesn't cost much, which gives it the advantage in the market!Very HappyVery HappyVery HappyVery Happy

Want something different? Choose Wii!Very Happy Idea

You know what I am surprised about though? Although it's cool and everything. It says it's for everyone, why haven't they cranked up the advertisements? I mean I saw the PS3 ads on TV and they sucked, but at least they have ads telling everyone "Here I come." Nintendo seriously needs to get the word out, since you know it's a Wii.


I agree. Nintendo has the potential to emerge as the big winner in the 7th generation of consoles. But they really need to work on their advertisements. The content they have on their website is great. They should put up advertisements with the same content. That would really help out their sales. I've seen a lot of DS commercials, and they've helped Nintendo out significantly. Though, I actually haven't seen any PS3 commercials, either. I know there are PS3 commercials, I've just never seen them.
angelussum
The Wii is definitely the most revolutionary of the latest consoles in terms of user interactiveness. I think it will be a huge hit, and the beginning of a better gaming experience! This will definitely put Nintendo back on the map in the world of gaming. Now all they need are better game titles to match the potentials of the Wii console.
QrafTee
william wrote:
QrafTee wrote:

You know what I am surprised about though? Although it's cool and everything. It says it's for everyone, why haven't they cranked up the advertisements? I mean I saw the PS3 ads on TV and they sucked, but at least they have ads telling everyone "Here I come." Nintendo seriously needs to get the word out, since you know it's a Wii.


I agree. Nintendo has the potential to emerge as the big winner in the 7th generation of consoles. But they really need to work on their advertisements. The content they have on their website is great. They should put up advertisements with the same content. That would really help out their sales. I've seen a lot of DS commercials, and they've helped Nintendo out significantly. Though, I actually haven't seen any PS3 commercials, either. I know there are PS3 commercials, I've just never seen them.

They are weird commercials, the PS3 ones. One features one of those colored puzzle cubes which floats in the air and solves itself. Suddenly, it explodes and covers the wall with colors. The other one features a baby doll facing a PS3 and then it starts to float, show emotions, and then cry. Yeah... I don't get any of that at all.
Kelcey
QrafTee wrote:
william wrote:
QrafTee wrote:

You know what I am surprised about though? Although it's cool and everything. It says it's for everyone, why haven't they cranked up the advertisements? I mean I saw the PS3 ads on TV and they sucked, but at least they have ads telling everyone "Here I come." Nintendo seriously needs to get the word out, since you know it's a Wii.


I agree. Nintendo has the potential to emerge as the big winner in the 7th generation of consoles. But they really need to work on their advertisements. The content they have on their website is great. They should put up advertisements with the same content. That would really help out their sales. I've seen a lot of DS commercials, and they've helped Nintendo out significantly. Though, I actually haven't seen any PS3 commercials, either. I know there are PS3 commercials, I've just never seen them.

They are weird commercials, the PS3 ones. One features one of those colored puzzle cubes which floats in the air and solves itself. Suddenly, it explodes and covers the wall with colors. The other one features a baby doll facing a PS3 and then it starts to float, show emotions, and then cry. Yeah... I don't get any of that at all.



The rubik's cube one was to show the "power" of the Cell. Solving the Rubik's cube for a processor could take a bit of time... but the Cell did it fast (in the commercial).

The baby one... I'm with you, I have no clue. Personally I think the rubik's cube one was pretty cool. The rest have sucked, haha.
Whong
Kelcey wrote:
QrafTee wrote:
william wrote:
QrafTee wrote:

You know what I am surprised about though? Although it's cool and everything. It says it's for everyone, why haven't they cranked up the advertisements? I mean I saw the PS3 ads on TV and they sucked, but at least they have ads telling everyone "Here I come." Nintendo seriously needs to get the word out, since you know it's a Wii.


I agree. Nintendo has the potential to emerge as the big winner in the 7th generation of consoles. But they really need to work on their advertisements. The content they have on their website is great. They should put up advertisements with the same content. That would really help out their sales. I've seen a lot of DS commercials, and they've helped Nintendo out significantly. Though, I actually haven't seen any PS3 commercials, either. I know there are PS3 commercials, I've just never seen them.

They are weird commercials, the PS3 ones. One features one of those colored puzzle cubes which floats in the air and solves itself. Suddenly, it explodes and covers the wall with colors. The other one features a baby doll facing a PS3 and then it starts to float, show emotions, and then cry. Yeah... I don't get any of that at all.



The rubik's cube one was to show the "power" of the Cell. Solving the Rubik's cube for a processor could take a bit of time... but the Cell did it fast (in the commercial).

The baby one... I'm with you, I have no clue. Personally I think the rubik's cube one was pretty cool. The rest have sucked, haha.


Shouldn't this be about Wii and not PS3?

Idea
madcaps
The main problems is that one might get a little tired in the arm... otherwise the Wii is definatly the most promising console this generation man cant wait for the new Zelda, and im not a Nintendo fanboy I never owned a gamecube however just the taught of the before-parties with alchol and a Wii gives me a hardon lol ^^
QrafTee
madcaps wrote:
The main problems is that one might get a little tired in the arm... otherwise the Wii is definatly the most promising console this generation man cant wait for the new Zelda, and im not a Nintendo fanboy I never owned a gamecube however just the taught of the before-parties with alchol and a Wii gives me a hardon lol ^^

Well if one gets tired in the arm we will know one thing, the players will be burning more calories, that must make the Democrats and California's Governator very happy y'know because of the obesity thing going on. I think one who plays the Wii enough will be conditioned, so it's fine, that's probably why they include Wii Sports in every bundle with the exception of Japan (no obesity there guys).
INeedHelp
Good lord, I can't wait for the Wii. It should be pretty awesome. I think I am gong to get Zelda TP and Metal Slug Anthology to start me off. Who knows what I might get for Christmas (That is if I ask for games). I am also interested in Red Steel, Elebits, and Rayman. This holiday season has ALREADY been hard on my wallet, and it is only going to get worse with the Wii launch! Anyone feeling the same?
LostOverThere
About Ads, Where I live, Australia, Sony hasnt even started to advertise, but Nintendo has.

The ads are pretty funny, and really get you to know about the Wii.
evanc88
It's very unfortunate. I'm going to Spain and Italy in June and because of that I don't think I'm going to be able to pick up a Wii. I was looking forward to playing Metal Slug Anthology, Rayman, Wii Sports and World Series of Poker. The thing I'm still most excited about, however, are the Virtual Console games. I can hardly wait to see what "new" games get released every month. It'll be exciting and nostalgiac, for sure.
Studio Madcrow
Just saw a Wii demo unit at EB Games. It was cool. BTW, the guy at the counter said that preorders of the Wii are WAAAY higher than pre-orders for PS3 or sales for Xbox360. Nintendo for the win!
Dredge
I'll be purchasing the Wii, with a regular controller, Madden '07, and the online package, and I'll be set.

I'll never pay 300.00+ for a console.
QrafTee
Studio Madcrow wrote:
Just saw a Wii demo unit at EB Games. It was cool. BTW, the guy at the counter said that preorders of the Wii are WAAAY higher than pre-orders for PS3 or sales for Xbox360. Nintendo for the win!

Uhh... dude, I hate to tell you this, but of course the Wii pre-orders are more than the PS3 pre-orders, Nintendo has around 4 million units or so and Sony has around 400,000 - 1 million units. (Around 1 million by the end of the year) This is worldwide of course.
Studio Madcrow
Don't test my belief. If I want to believe that Nintendo will pwn Sony and M$ in the console wars let me believe it. At least for now anyway...
Whong
QrafTee wrote:
madcaps wrote:
The main problems is that one might get a little tired in the arm... otherwise the Wii is definatly the most promising console this generation man cant wait for the new Zelda, and im not a Nintendo fanboy I never owned a gamecube however just the taught of the before-parties with alchol and a Wii gives me a hardon lol ^^

Well if one gets tired in the arm we will know one thing, the players will be burning more calories, that must make the Democrats and California's Governator very happy y'know because of the obesity thing going on. I think one who plays the Wii enough will be conditioned, so it's fine, that's probably why they include Wii Sports in every bundle with the exception of Japan (no obesity there guys).


You'll get some exercise while you play, now isn't that just great! It won't be so stressing for the neck and shoulders when you get to actually move your hands a bit!

Soon it is here, just can't wait!Very Happy
ekim_dk
I have heard about the Wii. It's pretty cool that you actully have to move your arms instead of some small buttons.
TonkPilz
WII its here soon man i cant w8 im itching allover.... Very Happy
Saber
For anyone that was able to get a Wii, congrats.
As many other people I'm waiting for later shipments because I'm not that big of a fan to stand in lines.

Anyways, I was wondering, The Wii says that it can connect with Wireless and with a adapter.

My two questions are,
1. when they say wireless does that include 802.1x?
2. If not for 1, then does the adapter come with the base system?
2b. If it doesn't come with the base system, then how much does it cost?

Over all, I think I'm going to get the Wii at some point and make the networking work one way or another but it would be nice to know the answers ahead of time.

-Saber
william
@Saber

1. Yes, the Wii supports 802.11b/g.
2. The adapter is a USB to Ethernet adaptor. It allows wired internet access. Wireless access (802.11) is built right into the console. I'm not sure how much the adapter costs, but there really is no point to buy it when you have Wi-Fi built in.
Saber
@william

Thanks for the information, When reading about it, it didn't make it clear if it did 802.11, so thanks for clearing that up.

Now I just have to figure out how to spend money that I dont have yet to get one..

-saber
roninmedia
I got my Wii and its great.

I believe one day, Nintendo can evolve the controller to the point that is as fluid and easy as moving a mouse so pc/console games are essentially interchangable in gameplay.
NeoValkyrion
Got to play with a Wii this weekend, and I have to say I was quite impressed. Despite the lack of the hardware the 360 and PS3 have, the controller design and overall software of the console is enough for this one to be the first of the nex-gen consoles I'm going to buy.
QrafTee
I just played the Wii today with my friends. 5 of us, 2 controllers, but Wii Sports was the only multiplayer game he had (the owner). I had fun and I can say confidently, I'm going to get a Wii and an extra controller. But my friends will have to get their own if they want to play. It's expensive. Haha. Making Miis are fun by the way.
Loghete
So the Internet connection, you cant just plug it in?

Damn. I don't have any WiFi in my house..
QrafTee
Loghete wrote:
So the Internet connection, you cant just plug it in?

Damn. I don't have any WiFi in my house..

If you have wireless access, then your Wii should be able to connect to the internet, if not then you need to buy an adapter so the Wii can connect via ethernet. I already have a wireless router so I'm covered when I do get this console.
Saber
@QrafTee
If I read right its not that you can plug in the adapter to an either net cable(cat 5) but that its a usb drive that plugs in usb to a windows computer that has a connection. The direct either net to the wii's usb wont be out untill early 2007.

@william
Thanks for the answer before, but I was wondering if you could explain how to connect using 802.1x. There are some other guys in the dorm and are unable to get it working.


-saber
leat397
[quote="eLto"]10 reasons why the PS3 beats all you nintendo fanboys:

1 Nvidia RSX GPU.
2 Cell CPU with 8 dual-cores
3 Bluetooth
4 Blu-Ray (54 GB storage space)
5 Hard drive
6 wireless controllers with motion sensibilty, ergonomically shaped
7 Memory slots for various types of media
8 Support for 7 controllers
9 Plays all sorts of media (mp3, wav, avi, mpg etc.)
10 It looks tons cooler

I know you people like nintendo, and don't get me wrong, so did I, until the N64 came out, still using cartridges. Zelda was GREAT, Goldeneye was GREAT, perfect dark was GREAT, and hell, even diddy kong racing was fun, but nintendo seems to always aim for children and new playing styles, whereas sony (and microsuck) aim for the mainstream masses of multimedia, and therefore get way better performing consoles.


Anyway, that's my opinion, and your opinions are yours. Nothing I can do about it.[/quote

I am not agree with what you say...
what you qouted is how such console is awesome.....on the great graphics and the multimedia compatibility only...
Being a gamer I am looking for a good game to play...
A game that values as good is not only how realistics to the graphics are...but also the creativity and the fun we can draw from..

it's quite true that PS3 have impressive displaying and its outlook..but that's all....I have see many passages on the web criticing on its loading time and the problem of overheating...I guess no one would accept an unstable and loading machine to play for.

Moreover, PS3 was definitely a high end product which requires a HDTV and professional sound system to make it works effectively.....I am just query, how many household could afford such professional AV environment at home?...
william
Saber wrote:
@QrafTee
If I read right its not that you can plug in the adapter to an either net cable(cat 5) but that its a usb drive that plugs in usb to a windows computer that has a connection. The direct either net to the wii's usb wont be out untill early 2007.

@william
Thanks for the answer before, but I was wondering if you could explain how to connect using 802.1x. There are some other guys in the dorm and are unable to get it working.


-saber


I might be incorrect since I've never even touched the Wii, but I'm pretty sure I know how. If you have a wireless connection, here's what you do:

1. Go to connection settings.
2. I think 3 options appear, choose an open connection that says "None."
3. Choose wireless connection.
4. Then, I think, select, "Search for an Access Point."
5. The Wii will search for available connections. Choose the right connection and enter any security information. (If any.)
6. It'll then ask you to save these settings; choose OK.
7. It'll then ask you to run a test, if it works, then the Wii's internet access is set up.

If the last step fails, then, in step 4, try Manual Setup.

Like I said, I might be wrong. The only reason I know this is because I once perused the Wii's manual.
Saber
Well I will look through that again, but it might be that the connection here is setup in a way that wont allow it. To be fair, I dont think that supplying wii access to college students is top on their list.

if I cant get that working then I guess I will either have to wait two-ish months for the eithernet to usb direct wii plug or just stoop and get the windows usb wifi adapter for the wii.

Over all Im still some what baffled that nintendo would decide not to include a plug for either net, it cant possible be much more space..

And in the process of figuring this out, Im now wondering if I can reason with my self that spending about $300 is worth playing zelda. It would be nice if the wii was able to play dvds but nope, hopefully that rumor about them thinking about making a new model is true and that I will be able to put off getting one untill that happens.(Or just be depressed when I just suck up and admit that Im waiting for nothing)

oh well, stuff like this happens, maybe I can "steal"(other wise known as borrow) it from the guys down the hall when they go away for weekends, but thats not really worth the time.

Sorry for the rant, Anyways, that manual that you paged through doesn't happen to be online would it?

-saber
william
@Saber

I just found it. The one that has the online information is this: http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/downloads/WiiChEng.pdf

There's also this: http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/downloads/WiiOpMn_setup.pdf
Saber
Why thank you for linking that,
Ill take a look at it tonight.

-saber
Ghengis
To the guy who asked if it's worth $300 just to play Zelda, in a word: yes. I got my Wii on launch day and have been playing Zelda ever since. A few points:

No, you don't have to move your whole arm, and as a result, no, your arms do not get tired. In fact, I move my wiimote hand more often to aim e.g. my bow than I do to swing my sword -- you can do a spin attack by shaking the nunchuk, and that's a better attack, so I use it most of the time.

Wireless setup is simple, and if you know anything about 802.11 security it's a snap to use. It supports all the major encryption protocols (WEP, WPA, and WPA2) and lets you input passwords, etc. using the on-screen keyboard, which is amazingly not that painful to use. The more you play with it, the easier it is to use the wiimote as a mouse.

The graphics look pretty damn good -- it's not the PS3, but it's about a third as expensive (plus Nintendo makes a tidy profit while Sony takes a huge loss), so you have to adjust your expectations. Also, if you don't have a high-def TV, you're likely to get about as good a picture as you can expect out of this generation.



I'll end my post with a question. Does anybody know when the big N is planning to drop the system update that includes Opera? I'm eager to see how the browser is going to work.
QrafTee
I saw a video of a Wii using its internet capabilities. I'm not sure if its the Opera browser, but I doubt there is anything else. It basically works like a normal browser with your Wii remote as the mouse. Drag, click, whatever you normally do to navigate a page.

Some guy found a way to bypass the Wii's systems to use the browsers capabilities, for this reason he could only surf the web for around 5 minutes or so before his Wii froze.
Fire Boar
Mine's been pre-ordered! Time for celebrations!

I live in the UK and it's out in 2 weeks time.

Although I doubt I'll be able to get it on launch day: the queues will be awful!

The Wii has broken all first week sales records in this country... and that's before it's even been released! I reckon that's impressive.

Oh, and Ninty are shipping 4 million consoles into the UK alone by December... that's double what Sony planned.
freecitizen
Omg, I cannot WAIT for the Wii! I really wanna get one. It's just so cool.
Ghengis
Joystiq says Wii sold out in a day, probably over 1 million units. Here's what I think.
QrafTee
Fire Boar wrote:
Mine's been pre-ordered! Time for celebrations!

I live in the UK and it's out in 2 weeks time.

Although I doubt I'll be able to get it on launch day: the queues will be awful!

The Wii has broken all first week sales records in this country... and that's before it's even been released! I reckon that's impressive.

Oh, and Ninty are shipping 4 million consoles into the UK alone by December... that's double what Sony planned.

Hmm, I don't know where you got that data, but I heard Nintendo was planning to get out 4 million consoles by the end of this year worldwide since they've only gotten out a little less than 1 million now... maybe more since I heard shipments are arriving today. And then something about an additional 6 million by 1st quarter '07? I don't remember. Yeah, but Sony totally jipped you guys, I think Europe isn't getting any until '07 .
fiorello
hmm imho Wii is half next gen. It isnt Super Extra Power like xbox360 and PS3 but im sure that the next gen controler will give lot of fun Smile I think i will buy it.
Saber
fiorello wrote:
hmm imho Wii is half next gen. It isn't Super Extra Power like xbox360 and PS3 but im sure that the next gen controller will give lot of fun Smile I think i will buy it.


I agree that its not fully 'next gen' at least in some ways.
Sure its not able to do anything else other than play Nintendo games(No dvd, no mp3) and sure its not a graphics power house, But when you think about it, when Has Nintendo done that?

In my own limited view, I seem to think that Nintendo and companies that make the games try to make up for "shiny" graphics with game play. Now I'm not saying that this is always true, or that that means that other systems either have good graphics and bad game play, or the other way around. But then again, I don't have a very wide view of games over all, I stick to ones that I like, and watch others play what they like.(money doesn't grow on trees)

For the Wii, correct if I'm wrong, but isn't it about the same size of an older desktop cd drive? Or to put it simpler the smaller of the next gen?
With size, that would limit space for graphics, and what I just cant get my mind past, no either net port.

So, at least in my mind, even that the Wii doesn't have such power from the system, not as good graphics and no hard drive, but the games might make up for it.

-saber
QrafTee
Saber wrote:
fiorello wrote:
hmm imho Wii is half next gen. It isn't Super Extra Power like xbox360 and PS3 but im sure that the next gen controller will give lot of fun Smile I think i will buy it.


I agree that its not fully 'next gen' at least in some ways.
Sure its not able to do anything else other than play Nintendo games(No dvd, no mp3) and sure its not a graphics power house, But when you think about it, when Has Nintendo done that?

In my own limited view, I seem to think that Nintendo and companies that make the games try to make up for "shiny" graphics with game play. Now I'm not saying that this is always true, or that that means that other systems either have good graphics and bad game play, or the other way around. But then again, I don't have a very wide view of games over all, I stick to ones that I like, and watch others play what they like.(money doesn't grow on trees)

For the Wii, correct if I'm wrong, but isn't it about the same size of an older desktop cd drive? Or to put it simpler the smaller of the next gen?
With size, that would limit space for graphics, and what I just cant get my mind past, no either net port.

So, at least in my mind, even that the Wii doesn't have such power from the system, not as good graphics and no hard drive, but the games might make up for it.

-saber

Well first, "... means that other systems either have good graphics and bad game play, or the other way around..." Umm... where in the book does it say it can't have both? Wasn't LoZ: OoT a great game? (Graphics and gameplay were great in those days), same with Final Fantasy VII and Tactics. I'm just saying games can have both, and it's not limited to individual consoles.

The Wii is the size of an internal CD-drive for any modern desktop, but it loads like a car's CD player.

And you're right, not having much power can be compensated for its great games. So far though there are only two that I know of: Wii Sports and LoZ: TP.
Saber
Quote:
Umm... where in the book does it say it can't have both? Wasn't LoZ: OoT a great game? (Graphics and gameplay were great in those days), same with Final Fantasy VII and Tactics. I'm just saying games can have both, and it's not limited to individual consoles.

The Wii is the size of an internal CD-drive for any modern desktop, but it loads like a car's CD player.

And you're right, not having much power can be compensated for its great games. So far though there are only two that I know of: Wii Sports and LoZ: TP.


Ah, well yes Loz: Oot was a great game, an so were a lot of others, what I ment by "shiny" might be different from what others think, and thats always going to happen. "shiny" in my mind is say, for the ps3, some boxing game that they used in a preview, they show sweat when the guy gets hit. Now I dont know if thats just for show, and theres nothing in the game like that, but I'm just trying to say, things that one could say, adds to the game, But isnt needed. Now true lots of things aren't needed so like I mentioned above it comes down to what different people like/dislike/etc.

As for my comment before about how the games could make up for lack of some graphics, I guess I should really look into future titles, as I only know of the handful that are already out.(And I'm still really looking forward to getting to play LoZ:TP for more than 10 minutes)

-saber

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william
This is kind of funny, but there have been reports of people smashing their televisions. Some people really get into the game, and end up destroying their television with their Wiimote. There was one person who's wrist strap broke and the Wiimote flew off and killed the television. I've seen these reports on a bunch of websites; I'll post the links if I find them.
ItsWesley
I've heard about the TV smashing incidents as well. I'm going to make extra sure that doesn't happen to my tv, so I might change nintendo's weak strap for a stronger one.
Also does anyone know if ASDA or Blockbuster will be selling Wiis at the launch in the UK?
QrafTee
william wrote:
This is kind of funny, but there have been reports of people smashing their televisions. Some people really get into the game, and end up destroying their television with their Wiimote. There was one person who's wrist strap broke and the Wiimote flew off and killed the television. I've seen these reports on a bunch of websites; I'll post the links if I find them.

Well reports only say it smashes a TV if the TV is new since the newer models are much more fragile than the older ones (where you could punch the screen and it won't even crack). There have also been instances of ricocheting Wii remotes off walls/ceilings and Wii remote collisions rendering one fine, but the other damaged.
Fire Boar
Yay we've been officialisified!

Anyway, here's a link.

Wiimote vs TV
arkebuzer
Whong wrote:
eLto wrote:
The Wii is "simply an upgrade" of the GC aswell, except it has the "wiimote". So that's what you call it now. infact, compared to a PS3, the wii isn't even a good upgrade. the hardware specs aren't even close to even the 360!


Hardware specs aren't the only thing that matter. What good is great hardware if the games are lousy. Super Mario Bros 1, 3, Super Mario 64, The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time didn't have very good graphics and the music was midi in Mario 64 and Zelda. Graphically they look very bad now, but they were the best sellers of their time and are still played with a really happy mind. They are great though they don't have such great graphics.

People now a days care only for the specs and graphics, not for the games. A good game is a game which you enjoy playing and want to play it as soon as you can. The quality of games are becoming bad because we only care about the power and ablities of the consoles and not the actual games!


True, True... in many cases. I dont have any console right now, and dont have any plans on getting any either. But you can´t say wii isn´t creating something quite new and interesting with the controlls. Sure it has good specs and so on, but personally I think they have put quite a lot of thought behind it to make it something new, that none of the other consoles have (at least not to that extent).
gh0stface
I'm not going to lie, but the Wii has kind of gotten me interested in that console mainly because of the interactiveness compared to the PS3 and Xbox 360. The Wii has kind of been flying under the radar and it really kind of makes me want to get one if I was into console gaming.

The way some of the games interact with the players, such as the sports game, no longer can gaming be used as an excuse to make people fat. ;)
QrafTee
gh0stface wrote:
I'm not going to lie, but the Wii has kind of gotten me interested in that console mainly because of the interactiveness compared to the PS3 and Xbox 360. The Wii has kind of been flying under the radar and it really kind of makes me want to get one if I was into console gaming.

The way some of the games interact with the players, such as the sports game, no longer can gaming be used as an excuse to make people fat. Wink

Y'know, there are people complaining that the Wii is "hurting" them. Like some weight lifter was saying hos his arm started to hurt after playing Wii Baseball (Wii Sports), I'm like "what the hell, you lift weights, be a man." I think the Governor of California aka Governator should endorse the Wii and even somehow make it cheaper since he's a former body builder and hates fat people. It's the best of both worlds. Wink
Vanilla Crazy
eLto wrote:
10 reasons why the PS3 beats all you nintendo fanboys:

1 Nvidia RSX GPU.
2 Cell CPU with 8 dual-cores
3 Bluetooth
4 Blu-Ray (54 GB storage space)
5 Hard drive
6 wireless controllers with motion sensibilty, ergonomically shaped
7 Memory slots for various types of media
8 Support for 7 controllers
9 Plays all sorts of media (mp3, wav, avi, mpg etc.)
10 It looks tons cooler

I know you people like nintendo, and don't get me wrong, so did I, until the N64 came out, still using cartridges. Zelda was GREAT, Goldeneye was GREAT, perfect dark was GREAT, and hell, even diddy kong racing was fun, but nintendo seems to always aim for children and new playing styles, whereas sony (and microsuck) aim for the mainstream masses of multimedia, and therefore get way better performing consoles.


Anyway, that's my opinion, and your opinions are yours. Nothing I can do about it.

maddox.xmission.com
FAIL SONY FANBOY.
Saber
heres a site that has some reports about those wii releated problems, such as the remote breaking windows, palms, etc.

http://www.wiihaveaproblem.com/
Whong
It's great that Wii kind of gives you some excercise while you play, for you hands. It will ease the neck and shoulders or atleast they won't get so jammed and thight and paining.

Wii play looks interresting too, specially Table Tennis and Pool. Very Happy
QrafTee
Whong wrote:
It's great that Wii kind of gives you some excercise while you play, for you hands. It will ease the neck and shoulders or atleast they won't get so jammed and thight and paining.

Wii play looks interresting too, specially Table Tennis and Pool. Very Happy

Well let's just say this. There are physicians telling Wii gamers (the older ones) to stretch out before playing so they don't hurt themselves (again... usually)
Kelcey
Whong wrote:

Hardware specs aren't the only thing that matter. What good is great hardware if the games are lousy. Super Mario Bros 1, 3, Super Mario 64, The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time didn't have very good graphics and the music was midi in Mario 64 and Zelda. Graphically they look very bad now, but they were the best sellers of their time and are still played with a really happy mind. They are great though they don't have such great graphics.


All those marios and zeldas had great graphics for their time. I'm not saying that it was graphics that sold them as they were definitely fun games. But yes, they had great graphics for when they were released.

Whong wrote:

People now a days care only for the specs and graphics, not for the games. A good game is a game which you enjoy playing and want to play it as soon as you can. The quality of games are becoming bad because we only care about the power and ablities of the consoles and not the actual games!


You seem to make a big deal about "people caring just for graphics" more than ps3 and 360 owners do. The majority of what I hear from them is that they care about he games such as Gears of War, Halo 3, Final Fantasy XIII, Metal Gear Solid 4 and so on. I don't hear them saying, "I'm buying this system cause it can *possibly* produce pretty games." I hear them saying, "Gears of War is awesome and I love playing it." People are buying these systems because they do/will have good games. You can't honestly tell me the PS3 is gonna succeed if it didn't have its biggest franchises yet it could (it can't though) produce FF7 Advent Children in real time, now can you?

Furthermore, if you were right, then Resistance wouldn't be the top selling PS3 launch game. Genji would. All the reviews say Genji is a gorgeous game, but the gameplay is completely horrid. Resistance doesn't look all that great but people rave about how fun the game is. So you like to say these PS3 owners just care about graphics... now tell me why the uglier game is the top seller while the prettiest game is probably down near the bottom.
Ghengis
Who the living hell cares about the "prettiness" difference between two PS3 launch titles? On a scale of 1 to 10, the PS3 titles are 8.5 and 9, and Zelda is like a 4 or a 5. Neither of the PS3 titles is half as fun as Zelda, as far as I can tell -- Zelda games (including TP) occupy 3 of the top 20 score slots at Metacritic, all averaging over 96%. Resistance is averaging 89%. Genji, of course, is a steaming pile of 57%.

Now, I'm not saying a game can't be both pretty and fun, BUT, I would contend that PS3 has to work extra hard at being fun to make up for the fact that it's more than twice as expensive, not counting the fact that games are more expensive too. In terms of fun per dollar, it's going to be really hard to beat the Wii, and if anybody does, the Xbox 360 has a better chance of doing so than the PS3, at least for the foreseeable future. IMHO.
QrafTee
Kelcey wrote:

You seem to make a big deal about "people caring just for graphics" more than ps3 and 360 owners do. The majority of what I hear from them is that they care about he games such as Gears of War, Halo 3, Final Fantasy XIII, Metal Gear Solid 4 and so on. I don't hear them saying, "I'm buying this system cause it can *possibly* produce pretty games." I hear them saying, "Gears of War is awesome and I love playing it." People are buying these systems because they do/will have good games. You can't honestly tell me the PS3 is gonna succeed if it didn't have its biggest franchises yet it could (it can't though) produce FF7 Advent Children in real time, now can you?

Furthermore, if you were right, then Resistance wouldn't be the top selling PS3 launch game. Genji would. All the reviews say Genji is a gorgeous game, but the gameplay is completely horrid. Resistance doesn't look all that great but people rave about how fun the game is. So you like to say these PS3 owners just care about graphics... now tell me why the uglier game is the top seller while the prettiest game is probably down near the bottom.

You seem to have shot yourself in the foot by saying people didn't care about the graphics in Gears of War, MGS4, etc. Here is what people say about these games:
"It looks gorgeous."
"Man, look how real it looks."
"The graphics are awesome!"
"Looks better than any other game out there."

And you said it yourself Genji looks better than Resistance (but I still think Resistance looks good, visually) and then go on to say that Genji would be the top selling game. What does that tell you about PS3 owners? They do care about the graphics, apparently more than gameplay (from the statistics you gave me)

But you are right about one thing, it's the third-party companies with promises to stick with the PS3 which means they'll get good games that gets the real gamers going (if there are anymore of them... quite a rare breed... especially in PS3 owners)
Kelcey
QrafTee wrote:
Kelcey wrote:

You seem to make a big deal about "people caring just for graphics" more than ps3 and 360 owners do. The majority of what I hear from them is that they care about he games such as Gears of War, Halo 3, Final Fantasy XIII, Metal Gear Solid 4 and so on. I don't hear them saying, "I'm buying this system cause it can *possibly* produce pretty games." I hear them saying, "Gears of War is awesome and I love playing it." People are buying these systems because they do/will have good games. You can't honestly tell me the PS3 is gonna succeed if it didn't have its biggest franchises yet it could (it can't though) produce FF7 Advent Children in real time, now can you?

Furthermore, if you were right, then Resistance wouldn't be the top selling PS3 launch game. Genji would. All the reviews say Genji is a gorgeous game, but the gameplay is completely horrid. Resistance doesn't look all that great but people rave about how fun the game is. So you like to say these PS3 owners just care about graphics... now tell me why the uglier game is the top seller while the prettiest game is probably down near the bottom.

You seem to have shot yourself in the foot by saying people didn't care about the graphics in Gears of War, MGS4, etc. Here is what people say about these games:
"It looks gorgeous."
"Man, look how real it looks."
"The graphics are awesome!"
"Looks better than any other game out there."

And you said it yourself Genji looks better than Resistance (but I still think Resistance looks good, visually) and then go on to say that Genji would be the top selling game. What does that tell you about PS3 owners? They do care about the graphics, apparently more than gameplay (from the statistics you gave me)

But you are right about one thing, it's the third-party companies with promises to stick with the PS3 which means they'll get good games that gets the real gamers going (if there are anymore of them... quite a rare breed... especially in PS3 owners)


MGS4 doesn't even look that great (during gameplay). People will say games look amazing or they look like trash. It comes with every game. I said Genji does look better and it does. What I *did* say was that it *WOULD* be the best selling game according to *ps3 owners only care about graphics* logic. Then the point is *proven* that that's not all *ps3 owners care about* because it IS NOT the best selling ps3 launch game. That was the point. I like my graphics and I'll say, "damn that game looks good" but won't buy it if it isn't fun. A good example is motorstorm. People say it looks great but that's all... it's not gonna outsell something like Resistance (which I think does look like a ps2 game on steroids). I don't like any of the ps3 launch games and I'm not buying any of them. Fight Night 3 looks amazing on PS3, but I'm not buying that either cause I just don't care much for boxing games. I'm waiting for something like Heavenly Sword which admittedly doesn't look all that awesome to me. Something like Virtua Tennis 3 which doesn't look all that great until you're between points. Also, I'll be getting Ninja Gaiden Sigma which really is just an xbox game on steroids as well. I'm getting them because they *should* be fun.

Of course people are gonna say how great gears looks... but it wouldn't reach the sales it has if it wasn't a great game. It's fun and it keeps the fighting fresh. People are excited about something like MGS4 because they love the game. Same goes with Final fantasy. If MGS4 and FFXIII looked like ps1 games this generation, people would still buy them. I bought FFXII cause I'm a Final Fantasy fan. I hated it. The game was a complete mess even though it looked great. So using these games as examples is probably not even worthwhile for anyone (including me). But let's look at something like Katamari... not exactly a graphically good looking game it came out of no where. The PS2 owners loved enough and bought enough to get a sequel. People will say, "OMG THAT LOOKS AWESOME" but won't say, "OMG I'M ONLY BUYING IT CAUSE IT LOOKS AWESOME." If they do, then they're stupid. But the point is despite gorgeous graphics, a game won't sell unless it's good (recall genji discussion). Genji may very well be the best looking and worst selling game at the moment. That shows that (through the few that have ps3s) that graphics aren't everything to PS3 owners. It's a terrible generalization and sounds just as bad as "Nintendo only makes games for kids," which is complete crap.

And why just attack PS3/360 owners as graphic ******? Like you said, you hear people say how awesome gears,mgs, and ff look. What about when the Smash Bros. Brawl trailer hit the internet? The Nintendo fans were screaming about "how good it looks." So are you saying then, that Nintendo fans only care about graphics cause they *say* that? They ALSO say the previous versions were fun as hell. The same goes for MGS4 and Final Fantasy. Those games earned their fanbase through story(ff) and gameplay(mgs). Admittedly ff7 probably pulled in a crap load of people into the RPG genre because it was gorgeous for its time. I'll give anyone that point. A lot of "rpg fans" started at FF7. Personally I don't like MGS... just not my type of game. So I'm not gonna buy it... I don't care if it pulled pre rendered killzone graphics. I don't like the gameplay (I know the rest of the world does). I didn't get gears of war until just like 3 days ago cause all my friends were telling me how great it was to PLAY. Out of all these graphical monsters (ff,mgs,gears) can you honestly say they will probably not be fun? I can come up with (and have(genji)) a graphically great game that sucks and nobody is buying it. The reviews all stated how great it looked by how crappy the game was. Can you find a game that was just great graphically (but had no previous following like final fantasy cause it doesn't work in either argument since the fans will buy it regardless of gameplay/graphics) and sucked so much crap gameplay wise, yet was a crazy top seller?

Ghengis wrote:
Who the living hell cares about the "prettiness" difference between two PS3 launch titles? On a scale of 1 to 10, the PS3 titles are 8.5 and 9, and Zelda is like a 4 or a 5. Neither of the PS3 titles is half as fun as Zelda, as far as I can tell -- Zelda games (including TP) occupy 3 of the top 20 score slots at Metacritic, all averaging over 96%. Resistance is averaging 89%. Genji, of course, is a steaming pile of 57%.


Are you arguing against me or with me? That's exactly my point, nobody cares about the "prettiness" difference between two ps3 launch titles. Others were saying that all PS3 owners cared about were graphics. I was saying otherwise. Thanks for agreeing.

Finally while it may seem I'm pro-ps3... just read the posts. I'm pretty much anti-typical-bashing on systems. I'm tired of the "Nintendo only makes games for kids" and the "360/PS3 people only care about graphics." Those have to be the two stupidest generalizations I've ever heard. If I had to list my favorites for the companies, it'd be Nintendo first, Sony second, and Microsoft third. I give Nintendo the nod because they can make games. They can support their own system with just their games (cube/n64 examples... while they may not have been the best sellers, nintendo is still going). In my opinion, Sony lucked in on Nintendo's cartridge fault and gained their third party support. Sony really has done nothing special to earn first place in the console wars. If square/konami left them, Sony would be completely dead. As for microsoft, I just can't stand Peter Moore. Sure Kutaragi is just as lame, but he knows he's stupid and listening to his crap always makes me laugh. Do I like pretty graphics? Yeah I do. Will I buy a game just cause it looks good? No.

I'm very intrigued by the Wii. I'm gonna get one when I don't have to camp a few hours to get one. Then I'll have all 3 consoles.
angelussum
I want one of these. They are hard to get a hold of in my area though. Gah.

I love the stories I'm hearing about people breaking their TVs and windows thanks to this slipping out of their hands tho Razz
Whong
Kelcey wrote:
Whong wrote:

Hardware specs aren't the only thing that matter. What good is great hardware if the games are lousy. Super Mario Bros 1, 3, Super Mario 64, The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time didn't have very good graphics and the music was midi in Mario 64 and Zelda. Graphically they look very bad now, but they were the best sellers of their time and are still played with a really happy mind. They are great though they don't have such great graphics.


All those marios and zeldas had great graphics for their time. I'm not saying that it was graphics that sold them as they were definitely fun games. But yes, they had great graphics for when they were released.

Whong wrote:

People now a days care only for the specs and graphics, not for the games. A good game is a game which you enjoy playing and want to play it as soon as you can. The quality of games are becoming bad because we only care about the power and ablities of the consoles and not the actual games!


You seem to make a big deal about "people caring just for graphics" more than ps3 and 360 owners do. The majority of what I hear from them is that they care about he games such as Gears of War, Halo 3, Final Fantasy XIII, Metal Gear Solid 4 and so on. I don't hear them saying, "I'm buying this system cause it can *possibly* produce pretty games." I hear them saying, "Gears of War is awesome and I love playing it." People are buying these systems because they do/will have good games. You can't honestly tell me the PS3 is gonna succeed if it didn't have its biggest franchises yet it could (it can't though) produce FF7 Advent Children in real time, now can you?

Furthermore, if you were right, then Resistance wouldn't be the top selling PS3 launch game. Genji would. All the reviews say Genji is a gorgeous game, but the gameplay is completely horrid. Resistance doesn't look all that great but people rave about how fun the game is. So you like to say these PS3 owners just care about graphics... now tell me why the uglier game is the top seller while the prettiest game is probably down near the bottom.


I'm not saying that graphics isn't an important factor, of course it is! But good games must have all things in a good balance. What good is a game with great graphics if the control mechanism is just lousy or vice versa!

I think it is great that games have great graphics, but for me all parts are important, graphics, controling, audio and lasting apeal.

That's how I feel! Wink
eday2010
I will probably buy a Wii sometime in the near future if I decide I want a home console again. The price tag, controller, and especially the downloadable classic games are selling points for me. Sure, I have ROMs for all the old games there are, but sometimes I don't want to be on the computer. Plus I have a slew of old Sega Master System and Genesis games tucked away in boxes, but I don't feel like digging all that out just to play some Sonic 3 on my TV.

The PS3 is also attractive to me because of the Blu-ray function of it, since I wantto upgrade to HD-everything in a few years. And Final Fantasy (not the Chronicles-style games like Nintendo has these days, though those are cool too). But the price is insane.

And what the heck is with charging FIFTY DOLLARS for a controller? Even the Wii controller is high priced. All things I will consider when buying a system. But the Wii is quite attractive to me.
Saber
@eday2010

The controllers have always been costly to some extent. Wired controllers are still about $25 and wireless controllers are in the $30+ range.

So to start they would be about $30ish then add in motion sensing.
That would be about what $8-$10?

And finally add on the "factor of new" that adds a bit, maybe $10?

Then there you go, thats the $50ish controller. I agree that they are expensive, and really do add to the over all price to the system.

What bothers me more about the Wii(please tell me if I'm wrong, I hope I am) is that when you buy a new controller it doesn't come with the numchuck.

I haven't checked that but I seem to remember that for some odd reason, again please correct me if I'm wrong.

-saber
william
@Saber

Well, when you buy a Wiimote, you only get a Wiimote. (And that's $40). The Nunchuk is an extra $20 and the classic controller is also $20. Still not bad for a new controller. Xbox 360's and PS3's controllers are both $50, and considering the power of the Wiimote, the extra $10 is worth it.
Ghengis
Re: William, at least with the Wiimote you get a reason for the hardware to be expensive -- it has a CCD (camera sensor) and 3-axis accelerometer (tilt sensor), plus Bluetooth which is probably the most expensive consumer-grade wireless tech to license. I'm glad it has all those things (especially Bluetooth -- I look forward to using it as a PC mouse!), but each adds a serious price premium. What does the 360 have? Buttons -- old. Analog sticks -- old. RF wireless -- old. There's a reason why there's a bunch of 3rd-party 360 controllers and no 3rd-party Wiimotes, and the reason is that 360 controllers are simple while Wiimotes are very, very complex.


Re: Kelcey, I'm not really making a point about PS3 *gamers*, but rather PS3 *designers*. If you write games for PS3, you *must* invest more (probably several times more) in graphics development to "keep up with the Joneses", the Joneses being all the other PS3 games that want to take advantage of all that graphical grunt. The Wii has the benefit of a novel input method without the burden of needing everything to be shiny. I don't subscribe to the notion that every time you double the speed you make it "better". I think that's what people are talking about when they say PS3 owners "just care about graphics".
eday2010
I miss the good old days when Controllers were $10 or $15. One more reason I still say the 16-bit era was the best!
Fire Boar
Ghengis wrote:
Re: William, at least with the Wiimote you get a reason for the hardware to be expensive -- it has a CCD (camera sensor) and 3-axis accelerometer (tilt sensor), plus Bluetooth which is probably the most expensive consumer-grade wireless tech to license. I'm glad it has all those things (especially Bluetooth -- I look forward to using it as a PC mouse!), but each adds a serious price premium. What does the 360 have? Buttons -- old. Analog sticks -- old. RF wireless -- old. There's a reason why there's a bunch of 3rd-party 360 controllers and no 3rd-party Wiimotes, and the reason is that 360 controllers are simple while Wiimotes are very, very complex.


Eh... I don't think you quite read William's post carefully enough. He said that the extra $10 was worth it considering the power of the Wiimote. The Wiimote is the powerful one and costs $60 for it and the Nunchuck. Which is an extra $10 from the PS3 and XBox360. I think that's what he was referring to, and not suggesting that the Wiimote was less powerful and the others were worth an extra $10.

You get what you pay for. Want good graphics and system specs? Get the expensive machine. Want a fun and original way to control games? Get the expensive controller.

The great thing is, though, I don't think the controller is that expensive. XBox360, PS3 and Wii all support up to 4 player games. Let's add it up, remembering that all come with one controller as part of the bundle.

PS3: $600 for console plus 3x$50 for additional controllers = $750 in total.
XBox360: $400 for console plus 3x$50 for additional controllers = $550 in total.
Wii: $250 for console plus 3x$40 for additional Wiimotes plus 3x$20 for additional Nunchucks = $430 in total.

There we go. Over a hundred dollars less than the XBox 360, and over three hundred dollars less than the PS3. Bargain.
william
Fire Boar wrote:
Ghengis wrote:
Re: William, at least with the Wiimote you get a reason for the hardware to be expensive -- it has a CCD (camera sensor) and 3-axis accelerometer (tilt sensor), plus Bluetooth which is probably the most expensive consumer-grade wireless tech to license. I'm glad it has all those things (especially Bluetooth -- I look forward to using it as a PC mouse!), but each adds a serious price premium. What does the 360 have? Buttons -- old. Analog sticks -- old. RF wireless -- old. There's a reason why there's a bunch of 3rd-party 360 controllers and no 3rd-party Wiimotes, and the reason is that 360 controllers are simple while Wiimotes are very, very complex.


Eh... I don't think you quite read William's post carefully enough. He said that the extra $10 was worth it considering the power of the Wiimote. The Wiimote is the powerful one and costs $60 for it and the Nunchuck. Which is an extra $10 from the PS3 and XBox360. I think that's what he was referring to, and not suggesting that the Wiimote was less powerful and the others were worth an extra $10.

You get what you pay for. Want good graphics and system specs? Get the expensive machine. Want a fun and original way to control games? Get the expensive controller.

The great thing is, though, I don't think the controller is that expensive. XBox360, PS3 and Wii all support up to 4 player games. Let's add it up, remembering that all come with one controller as part of the bundle.

PS3: $600 for console plus 3x$50 for additional controllers = $750 in total.
XBox360: $400 for console plus 3x$50 for additional controllers = $550 in total.
Wii: $250 for console plus 3x$40 for additional Wiimotes plus 3x$20 for additional Nunchucks = $430 in total.

There we go. Over a hundred dollars less than the XBox 360, and over three hundred dollars less than the PS3. Bargain.


Yeah, that's what I meant. The Wiimote's price is the best, in my opinion. The 360 is wireless and uses and RF Antenna, yet my wireless controllers from the last generation cost $20-$25 less.

Oh yeah, the Playstation 3 can support up to seven controllers, but I doubt that any games will utilize that feature.
Ghengis
Let's not forget that at least a few multiplayer games don't need a 'chuck, so you can at least delay the extra 20 bucks. Plus, I'm holding out hope that they'll start bundling the two controllers for some slight cost savings...

Regardless, I'm going to try not to get my next controller until they start releasing more colors.
ehm_qhl
I juste played 50 cent bulletproof game ... really cool ...

i suggest that for youu!
boomtown15
Does anybody have any other suggestions for killer games for the Wii? I just picked one up a couple of weeks ago and was looking to get some new games. In particular, has anyone played that Marvel Ultimate Alliance game?
QrafTee
boomtown15 wrote:
Does anybody have any other suggestions for killer games for the Wii? I just picked one up a couple of weeks ago and was looking to get some new games. In particular, has anyone played that Marvel Ultimate Alliance game?

I've played it on the Xbox and it's pretty fun... with four people. Alone, it's alright, but nowhere near as fun. I haven't played the Wii version, but reviews say the Wii motions for the game weren't fine-tuned (which they should've been) so it's hard to actually execute attacks using the motions... well doesn't that beat the game up a bit?
garionw
...and its here.


The nintendo wii has finally been launched in Australia
Whong
Just a couple of more days and Wii will launch in Europe, which means that it will launch in Finland too! Wink

Yeah! Very HappyVery Happy
LostOverThere
(Im an Aussie)
My friend camped outside EB last night to get his hands on his Wii...I havent seen him since. Sad
Ghengis
LostOverThere wrote:
(Im an Aussie)
My friend camped outside EB last night to get his hands on his Wii...I havent seen him since. Sad


Well, at least he wasn't in line for a PS3. Then I'd *really* get worried...[/url]
Coclus
The Wii is awesome.. it has so many features and is not really expensive...
enygmasoft
Wii rules. I have been a Nintendo fanboy for years, but with good reason. In terms of Innovation they are always on the cutting edge. Nintendo 64 was a giant leap forward with the release of Mario 64 and the creation of the analog stick, which everyone copied. Same thing is happening now. I'm not about to pretend N64 wouldn't have been better served with a CD rom, but it finally learned, disc are the way of the future.
Whong
enygmasoft wrote:
Wii rules. I have been a Nintendo fanboy for years, but with good reason. In terms of Innovation they are always on the cutting edge. Nintendo 64 was a giant leap forward with the release of Mario 64 and the creation of the analog stick, which everyone copied. Same thing is happening now. I'm not about to pretend N64 wouldn't have been better served with a CD rom, but it finally learned, disc are the way of the future.


I'm a real Nintendo fan boy myself! I've never owned anything else, but Nintendo consoles and probably never will own anything else but Nintendo.

Many of you might say that I'm nuts or crazy, but that's the way I am! Very Happy
Just a day or two and Nintendo Wii will be mine! Very HappyVery Happy
Kitten Kong
Im a PC user since age 3, PC will always have the greatest potential for power and graphics and despite decades of doomsayers saying consoles will knock it from its place as top gaming machine it is still on top.

Xbox 360 and PS3 are both PCs in fancy plastic potty boxes forcing you to play first person shooters on a gamepad that is ridiculously unsuited to the task.

If I was gonna buy a console it would be for LIGHT entertainment and the Wii wins hands down for having something the PC doesn't.

(Well actually motion sensing controls that work in the exact same way were made for PC's years ago but without the nintendo hype machine and a ridiculous name they never took off.)
Cole
Actually people have ported the Wiimote to work on Mac, Linux, and Windows. It just requires a driver download and a bluetooth adapter. Then they made emulator to change Wiimote controls into mouse/keyboard controls.

There are videos in youtube of people playing Half-Life 2 and NFS:MW with it. Although WII ftw.
RetardPro
That would pretty sweet, runnign around in guild wars or half life 2 using a Wiimote. It'd definately make your feel more within the game than normal!

I can't wait to play Zelda on the Wii, I think it'll be the greatest Zelda experience ever, since its way more interctive!
ashik
i heard from a couple of guys that.. the wiimote flew off someones hand and injured a bystander.... and destroyed... some stuff too...

Is there any truth in it...

PS:- sorry for deviatiing from topic... Razz
Whong
ashik wrote:
i heard from a couple of guys that.. the wiimote flew off someones hand and injured a bystander.... and destroyed... some stuff too...

Is there any truth in it...

PS:- sorry for deviatiing from topic... Razz



It is possible! But that is the mistake of the player, not the controler! Very Happy

But you got to be carful, it isn't really nice if it goes through the TV screen! Idea
enygmasoft
Wii Controllers a ginormously complex rig, but its worth the money. It packs alot of bang for the buck. It's certanly priceir than the oompetition and there is a clear reason why.
Lusiphur
I'm on the edge of purchasing a Wii when they become available over here, but I have a serious concern about the longevity of the Wii.

How long does it take for the novelty of the Wii to wear off? Will the remote stay a reason to play games that aren't as graphically powerful as 360/PS3/PC.

Has the novelty work off for anyone yet?

Honestly the controller is the main reason I want one, but as I said I'm concerned it will become an annoyance over time. Until a lightsaber of course, and then WUMNMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!
conspiranoia
Maybe the Wii has a new target, the people with destructive behaviour.

Wii= 249 Euro
Plasma TV = 800 Euro
Destroying it just playing a videogame has no price
Ghengis
enygmasoft wrote:
Wii Controllers a ginormously complex rig, but its worth the money. It packs alot of bang for the buck. It's certanly priceir than the oompetition and there is a clear reason why.


Actually, compare this:
http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=802113
to this:
http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2558833


You don't need a nunchuck per controller for any games that I'm aware of (yet), only 2 for e.g. Wii Sports boxing. I'm planning on getting a second Wiimote ASAP, but I'm probably only ever going to get one more nunchuck (so I can box my wife Wink.
QrafTee
Lusiphur wrote:
I'm on the edge of purchasing a Wii when they become available over here, but I have a serious concern about the longevity of the Wii.

How long does it take for the novelty of the Wii to wear off? Will the remote stay a reason to play games that aren't as graphically powerful as 360/PS3/PC.

Has the novelty work off for anyone yet?

Honestly the controller is the main reason I want one, but as I said I'm concerned it will become an annoyance over time. Until a lightsaber of course, and then WUMNMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!

Everytime I go to my friend's house, we play Wii Sports and the controller hasn't lost its magic. Also, I just recently played Zelda: TP at his house and it was remarkably fun. I mean I like Zelda and all, but I was very happy with the top-side down versions rather than the 3rd person adventures, but it was pretty cool.
Boffel
I like:
Nintendo 64
PS2
Nintendo wii - Best!!!


I dont like:
PS1
PS3
Nintendo gamecube - Worst!!!
X-Box
X-Box 360

And thats all I have to say about this...
william
@Boffel

Gamecube as the worst? Shocked Why would you say that? It wasn't bad at all. Maybe in terms of marketing, but it was a fun console.
Ghengis
The Gamecube was marketed poorly, to be sure, but it had its share of good ideas. I liked the thought of GBAs as controllers -- not many games used it to good effect IMHO, but a few did. For a while there Resident Evil 4 was a GC exclusive, and that was a fantastic demo of the GC at its best. GC was the only place to get both Pikmin games (excellent), and the GC Smash Brothers continued a tradition of excellence. The same can be said of the GC Paper Mario. Both Metroid Primes did what I thought was impossible -- translated the incredible experience of Super Metroid (and I guess the GBA Metroids) into 3D without losing any of the spirit of the original(s). Wind Waker was probably Top-20-Games-Ever material -- if you complain about the "cartoony" (e.g. excellent) graphics, you're missing the point. I could go on, but I think I've made my point -- it was probably last in line for last-gen consoles for a reason, but I don't think Nintendo should have done anything different.
brycearonium
We just got a we recently. Well one week ago to be exact. I have already logged 35 hours on the zelda game (i'm at the end...) it's awesome. I really thought the wii was going to suck something awful, but t turns out it is actually innovative and fun. I just wish they could bump the graphics, it would defiantly add.
Whong
brycearonium wrote:
We just got a we recently. Well one week ago to be exact. I have already logged 35 hours on the zelda game (i'm at the end...) it's awesome. I really thought the wii was going to suck something awful, but t turns out it is actually innovative and fun. I just wish they could bump the graphics, it would defiantly add.


As it is said never judge a book by it's covers and an other proverb or something like that in Finnish: " Ei nimi miestä pahenna, vaan mies nimensä pahentaa" which is :" A name doesn't make a man bad, but it's the man who makes the name bad!" Very Happy

So, Wii is great, even though the name might not be! Very Happy
Dart974
J'aimerais en jouer que pour un seul jeu...

Zelda, the twilight princess !

J'ai hate de me mettre dans la peau de notre petit heros vert lol
Loghete
Wow, in the whole city which I live next to, they did just get 2 Wii's! Counting all shops!

That's was December the 8th on release date... And still no more Wii's has arrived...
linkman2004
Loghete wrote:
Wow, in the whole city which I live next to, they did just get 2 Wii's! Counting all shops!

That's was December the 8th on release date... And still no more Wii's has arrived...


Ouch... the Wal-Mart that me and my brothers got our Wii from got 29, of which we got the 22nd. Razz
s3raph85
any problems with the wii yet? heard alot of lcd screens being broken from playing with it. lolz
Yantaal
does anyone else agree that if your strap breaks or you let go of the wiimote and it breaks your TV, then your a moron and deserve to be broken, how on earth do you drop it. me and my mates go drunk and were playing tennis, not one of dropped it once.
Whong
Yantaal wrote:
does anyone else agree that if your strap breaks or you let go of the wiimote and it breaks your TV, then your a moron and deserve to be broken, how on earth do you drop it. me and my mates go drunk and were playing tennis, not one of dropped it once.


If one has sweaty palms it can slip of the hand.
But it is quite unlikely, that it would slip, but it is possible!

Everything has it's pros and cons! Idea
QrafTee
Whong wrote:
Yantaal wrote:
does anyone else agree that if your strap breaks or you let go of the wiimote and it breaks your TV, then your a moron and deserve to be broken, how on earth do you drop it. me and my mates go drunk and were playing tennis, not one of dropped it once.


If one has sweaty palms it can slip of the hand.
But it is quite unlikely, that it would slip, but it is possible!

Everything has it's pros and cons! Idea

Umm... wear gloves or something. Hell use that powder the gymnists use to make their hands dry. Do something so you don't go breaking TVs. Old school TVs are fine though, you can't break those easily. The more expensive new ones on the other hand...
william
I've just read that Nintendo will replace any Wiimote strap for a newer, better one. The new one is stronger and won't break as easily as the older one.

Here is the comparison of the old and new strap.
QrafTee
william wrote:
I've just read that Nintendo will replace any Wiimote strap for a newer, better one. The new one is stronger and won't break as easily as the older one.

Here is the comparison of the old and new strap.

Man, I hope the new ones are made out of genuine spider silk. That'd rock.
coolsmile
The wii is not necessarily better graphics wise, but it has a lot more games out for it and motion sensored remote, it is so awesome Smile
Senshida
I got a Wii. (got it on ebay) But I can't open it until Christmas.
I bought it, and had my mom pay me for it. xD
QrafTee
Senshida wrote:
I got a Wii. (got it on ebay) But I can't open it until Christmas.
I bought it, and had my mom pay me for it. xD

Why would you buy a Wii off eBay? I mean you're just making those bastards who buy consoles just to sell on eBay happy. We're getting like 10-60 Wiis here every weekend. (spanning over many stores)
Senshida
None of the stores here ever have one, they either go to pre-orders, and the ones that do go on the shelf sell out as soon as they get there.... Besides I got a pretty good deal... A Wii, 2 Extra Remotes, extra nunchuck, Twilight Princess, Excite Truck, and Red Steel for $600.
william
@Senshida

I don't know if I'd call that a good deal. All of that totals up to $500, so you payed an extra $100. However, since you got it early, I suppose it is worth it.
Yantaal
this is what i got for £244

Wii (in box)
Wii Play
Wii Sports (in box)
Zelda
Wiimote x2 (one in box)
Nunchuck x2 (one in box)


bloody bargain.

But nowi ts not working, and i need to send it in to nintendo.
Whong
Yantaal wrote:
this is what i got for £244

Wii (in box)
Wii Play
Wii Sports (in box)
Zelda
Wiimote x2 (one in box)
Nunchuck x2 (one in box)


bloody bargain.

But nowi ts not working, and i need to send it in to nintendo.



That's odd, Nintendo stuff is quality stuff! It is very durable always! Very Happy

I wonder how it isn't working, such a new console and all!
johnsonap
So overall - is it worth spending the money on something that looks pretty simple, play looks very energetic, when PS3 is just round the corner?

Or am i just backing up Sony too much on this one?
Yantaal
tbh mate, the ps3 is a lot of money, for basically an xbox.


graphics are nothing special

blue ray! dun du du duuuun

price is rediculous

its basically an xbox with blueray.

worth its money? no

better than a Wii? no

Creative? no
Whong
johnsonap wrote:
So overall - is it worth spending the money on something that looks pretty simple, play looks very energetic, when PS3 is just round the corner?



Absolutely! Wii is really so much fun with friends that it is a really great deal to buy a Wii, especially since it is so cheap!
If you like Sony then do this; buy now Wii and then PS3, so you'll get both great consoles! Wii is cheap so you'd better get it! Very Happy
QrafTee
johnsonap wrote:
So overall - is it worth spending the money on something that looks pretty simple, play looks very energetic, when PS3 is just round the corner?

Or am i just backing up Sony too much on this one?

When you say looks pretty simple, do you mean the actual console? I agree the Wii looks very simple in design, but I have to tell you that it's far from simple on the inside. Yes, it has simple casual games like Wii Sports. But I should remind you that Zelda: Twilight Princess (Platinum Award winner by EGM standards) is no simple game, it's quite addicting (my friend had to pry me away from it when he had to go to work).

And the PS3 was here first so it's been Wii which has been "around the corner." The fact is this, both are just out of the gate and their launch isn't as impressive as anticipated. If you're planning to play with friends, get the Wii. If you're planning to save money, get the Wii. If you're into the classics, get the Wii. If you're into Nintendo's notable characters, get the Wii. If you're itching to play differently, get the Wii.

As for the PS3, go ahead and get it if you: can find one, have enough money, plan to play alone (not many good multiplayer games yet), are into Final Fantasy, want a Blu-ray player, are very into graphics and have an HDTV, didn't like rumble capabilities.

BTW Yantaal, if you don't mind please use a line break in your signature so it doesn't stretch the screen.
Ghengis
Got to say I've been disappointed lately -- I got Zelda and Excite truck, and Trauma Center and Elebits might have potential. I might consider Rayman or Marvel UA if they end up cheap (<$30 or so) used or something. Other than that... well, there's pretty much nothing on the "coming soon" list for at least 3 months. I hope that list is incomplete, because otherwise it starts to feel a lot like Gamecube. I think I'm going to also get a 360: in the USA, Microcenter has them for $400 - 100 rebate - 100 for using their store credit card, which is too good to pass up. At least there's a good handful of 360 games worth buying to tide me over (if VC continues to pump out duds).
QrafTee
Ghengis wrote:
Got to say I've been disappointed lately -- I got Zelda and Excite truck, and Trauma Center and Elebits might have potential. I might consider Rayman or Marvel UA if they end up cheap (<$30 or so) used or something. Other than that... well, there's pretty much nothing on the "coming soon" list for at least 3 months. I hope that list is incomplete, because otherwise it starts to feel a lot like Gamecube. I think I'm going to also get a 360: in the USA, Microcenter has them for $400 - 100 rebate - 100 for using their store credit card, which is too good to pass up. At least there's a good handful of 360 games worth buying to tide me over (if VC continues to pump out duds).

Wow the way you're talking is like comparing a matured apple to a young green orange. Remember, the 360 has been out a year now and obviously it'll have more titles. Second, yes it will have rebates and such since it's been out a whole year and merchants want to rid themselves of their 360s for the holidays.

Also, keep in mind that the Wii and PS3 has around the same amount of games with a champ to support them (that would be Zelda: TP and Resistance: FoM respectively). The price for Rayman probably won't go that low on its own and you should pass up Marvel: UA altogether since it's already out for 6 consoles (one of them being a handheld). I, myself, can't find one so I've finally just decided to wait until Super Smash Bros. Melee comes out or something else (probably an import like Naruto: GNT EX or Bleach) before forking over my money to Nintendo.
Wish4Me
The wii is currently Outselling PS2 by a longshot and as Nintendo is actually making money off of its consoles that is a very good thing for Nintendo. Also the thing about the straps being too thin, means that people are very enthusiatic about the Wii.
Ghengis
I know it's a "young green orange", the problem is that most people leave oranges on the tree until they're not green anymore. Nintendo (and Sony) probably rushed a bit to get their consoles out before Christmas, and as a result neither had a stellar launch lineup. I can't complain too much -- Zelda was fantastic -- but I'm going to be playing PS2 games (like Final Fantasy XII) and GC games, and now apparently XB360 games as well, until Nintendo can line up some more quality products, which looks like kind of a long time.
Yantaal
william wrote:
I've just read that Nintendo will replace any Wiimote strap for a newer, better one. The new one is stronger and won't break as easily as the older one.

Here is the comparison of the old and new strap.


you know that some spaz will break it and nintendo will have to fork out some kevla strap, or hire spiders to concoct a kick ass strap for them.

some idiot will always break it though. and it will Nintendos fault
Ghengis
Posting from a Wii w/ the new browser. A bit clumsy, but I like the idea...
enygmasoft
reallyjoel wrote:
I see sticky's for PS3 and Xbox360, but not alot of love for Nintendo or specifically the Wii.

I'm definately getting a Wii, and I don't actually know anyone whose choice isn't the Wii.
We've also had a 360 at our schools (game design at uni) "games room" since launch, but the most anyone ever played on that is a bit of Hexic, or whatever it's called. I think even the old Xbox has seen more action.

And as for hitting weakspots to deal massive damage? Well.. it's a bit been there, done that, dont'cha think?


I wanted to get a WII, unfortunately this was the first Nintendo System that I did not reserve the minute that I could. I had all the other systems reserved for close to a year before they came out. I missed out and by the time i went they were gone.
TeenZine
wow after the strap problem and all the plublicy from wiihaveaproblem.com I dont think im getting one for me. I did look all across Oklahoma ( about a 100 walmarts) until I found the Wii to give to my friend. I was able to pick up alot of ps3's and have a 1 day auction ending today at 4pm so I can overnight them. i'm going to make a lot i can't wait.
ForceRun
I went to the Winter Wonder Lan in San Fran, CA this last week or so, which was tons of fun. (100+ Gamers) Anyways someone had a wii setup, and we all played it a bit, interesting, but I can't believe people paid money for the thing oh well. The Graphics matched the old N64, the controls were novel but really not practical, they don't really work very well, and all that waving around led to a few injures play the tenis and boxing. After just a little while everyone went back to playing they PCs at the Lan.

Lets see Company of Heroes, hmmm it on the PC
StarCraft (9 years old) let me see yes PC
PC has CounterStrike Source, Steam, Halflife 2, DODS, and all those.
Can anyone say BattleField 1942, BattleField 2, and BattleField 2142. I guess it is easy to not really understand what real gaming is when you are playing around with a wiiwii. Have fun.
ForceRun
I went to the Winter Wonder Lan in San Fran, CA this last week or so, which was tons of fun. (100+ Gamers) Anyways someone had a wii setup, and we all played it a bit, interesting, but I can't believe people paid money for the thing oh well. The Graphics matched the old N64, the controls were novel but really not practical, they don't really work very well, and all that waving around led to a few injures play the tenis and boxing. After just a little while everyone went back to playing they PCs at the Lan.

Lets see Company of Heroes, hmmm it on the PC
StarCraft (9 years old) let me see yes PC
PC has CounterStrike Source, Steam, Halflife 2, DODS, and all those.
Can anyone say BattleField 1942, BattleField 2, and BattleField 2142. I guess it is easy to not really understand what real gaming is when you are playing around with a wiiwii. Have fun.
Adam 552
I really want a Wii, there out of stock everywere though
Whong
Adam 552 wrote:
I really want a Wii, there out of stock everywere though


Yeah that's bad, it's out of stock everywhere because it's so wanted everywhere. It is really a great game console! You've absolutely got to get it, I got mine just two days ago and it is really fabulous! Very Happy
QrafTee
ForceRun wrote:
I went to the Winter Wonder Lan in San Fran, CA this last week or so, which was tons of fun. (100+ Gamers) Anyways someone had a wii setup, and we all played it a bit, interesting, but I can't believe people paid money for the thing oh well. The Graphics matched the old N64, the controls were novel but really not practical, they don't really work very well, and all that waving around led to a few injures play the tenis and boxing. After just a little while everyone went back to playing they PCs at the Lan.

Lets see Company of Heroes, hmmm it on the PC
StarCraft (9 years old) let me see yes PC
PC has CounterStrike Source, Steam, Halflife 2, DODS, and all those.
Can anyone say BattleField 1942, BattleField 2, and BattleField 2142. I guess it is easy to not really understand what real gaming is when you are playing around with a wiiwii. Have fun.

So basically everyone there was satisfied with classic gameplay. I mean seriously, from the years of CS to HL2, StarCraft to CoH, not much has changed. Now I can say that because I've played those games (and yes, I love SC a lot). I'm sorry you guys were so uncoordinated from the years of playing traditional games and allowing yourselves to get hurt from such a simple game like Wii Sports. Haha, well the Wii is for everyone as long as their bodies can handle it. BTW, comparing PC to any console isn't fair, PC always wins.
Wish4Me
I think the most potential in the wii system is one for active people. They have this trouble with wrist straps breaking because people are taking advantage of this abilitiy. I know people who play some mad wii sports for a couple of hours and after they are done there is sweat everywhere because they have a nice system and a lot of space. They love it. And Zelda showed the potential for any game to be used to the best extent on wii. So far nothing more has happened really but I see a big future for the system.
Wanderer
Wish4Me wrote:
I think the most potential in the wii system is one for active people. They have this trouble with wrist straps breaking because people are taking advantage of this abilitiy. I know people who play some mad wii sports for a couple of hours and after they are done there is sweat everywhere because they have a nice system and a lot of space. They love it. And Zelda showed the potential for any game to be used to the best extent on wii. So far nothing more has happened really but I see a big future for the system.

Well the strap problem is probably fixed because Nintendo released new wrist straps. The strap thing happened to my dad while he was playing Wii Tennis. I get scared when he plays Wii Tennis now.

Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess didn't show anything amazing about the Wii. The only thing that really took advantage of the Wii was the aiming. The sword swings just replaced the B button. It doesn't matter how you swing the Wii remote i still does the same thing as pressing a button. Soon Nintendo will be able to make better zelda games on the Wii when they get more time for development. Twilight Princess was just a quick port of a Gamecube game.
Senshida
NOOOO! My brand new Wii is broken!
(Got an error after updating, can't use online functions now)
Now I got to send it to Nintendo to get a new one. Crying or Very sad
QrafTee
Senshida wrote:
NOOOO! My brand new Wii is broken!
(Got an error after updating, can't use online functions now)
Now I got to send it to Nintendo to get a new one. Crying or Very sad

I thought that update was old and Nintendo pulled it out a while ago. How did you end up downloading that update?
garionw
ForceRun wrote:
I went to the Winter Wonder Lan in San Fran, CA this last week or so, which was tons of fun. (100+ Gamers) Anyways someone had a wii setup, and we all played it a bit, interesting, but I can't believe people paid money for the thing oh well. The Graphics matched the old N64, the controls were novel but really not practical, they don't really work very well, and all that waving around led to a few injures play the tenis and boxing. After just a little while everyone went back to playing they PCs at the Lan.

Lets see Company of Heroes, hmmm it on the PC
StarCraft (9 years old) let me see yes PC
PC has CounterStrike Source, Steam, Halflife 2, DODS, and all those.
Can anyone say BattleField 1942, BattleField 2, and BattleField 2142. I guess it is easy to not really understand what real gaming is when you are playing around with a wiiwii. Have fun.


You can't really really compare a Wii to a PC, now can you? You can get more parts for a computer and make it better and faster, you can't do that on a wii Wink You can't make your own Wii Games either.

In my opinion, the Wii is the only true video game system left, the others are just expensive, un-upgradeable, computers that let you do half of the stuff.
quex
I'll bet it's been addressed here several times already, but as long as it keeps hitting the news... are people still wildly flinging Wiimotes into televisions? I know Nintendo is releasing replacement straps, but are they any different than the ones that keep breaking? It doesn't sound like it...

I want a Wii so bad. ;_;
enygmasoft
I did not get Wii yet, but I like the idea of a workout.
QrafTee
quex wrote:
I'll bet it's been addressed here several times already, but as long as it keeps hitting the news... are people still wildly flinging Wiimotes into televisions? I know Nintendo is releasing replacement straps, but are they any different than the ones that keep breaking? It doesn't sound like it...

I want a Wii so bad. ;_;

Well technically they're about 3-4 times thicker than the original Remote straps thus making it stronger. My friend still has the original straps and we play Wii Sports without any problems. He's even tried to let go to do Wii Bowling one time and it didn't break, but he doesn't dare to anymore since he heard of all the broken TV reports.
Senshida
QrafTee wrote:
Senshida wrote:
NOOOO! My brand new Wii is broken!
(Got an error after updating, can't use online functions now)
Now I got to send it to Nintendo to get a new one. Crying or Very sad

I thought that update was old and Nintendo pulled it out a while ago. How did you end up downloading that update?


The problem was not in the update, it was a problem in some of the Wiis sold at launch. The one I got was purchased at launch, tucked away, wrapped up, and opened on Christmas Day.

The thing I love about Nintendo, is their customer service. Top notch!
falco211
eLto wrote:
10 reasons why the PS3 beats all you nintendo fanboys:

1 Nvidia RSX GPU.
2 Cell CPU with 8 dual-cores
3 Bluetooth
4 Blu-Ray (54 GB storage space)
5 Hard drive
6 wireless controllers with motion sensibilty, ergonomically shaped
7 Memory slots for various types of media
8 Support for 7 controllers
9 Plays all sorts of media (mp3, wav, avi, mpg etc.)
10 It looks tons cooler

I know you people like nintendo, and don't get me wrong, so did I, until the N64 came out, still using cartridges. Zelda was GREAT, Goldeneye was GREAT, perfect dark was GREAT, and hell, even diddy kong racing was fun, but nintendo seems to always aim for children and new playing styles, whereas sony (and microsuck) aim for the mainstream masses of multimedia, and therefore get way better performing consoles.


Anyway, that's my opinion, and your opinions are yours. Nothing I can do about it.
I'm sorry but it's not really helping the PS3 right now. I see tons of Ps3s on shelves. Wii has sold 3.19 Million world wide which is amazing. The Ps3 won't sell right now but I'm sure it will next year.
falco211
Senshida wrote:
NOOOO! My brand new Wii is broken!
(Got an error after updating, can't use online functions now)
Now I got to send it to Nintendo to get a new one. Crying or Very sad
That's because you got a Wii Demo System. Stores thought they could sell those systems but they can't. Those systems were meant for demo games only and they can not be updated. You'll have to send it to Nintendo so they can send you a real Wii. Wink
QrafTee
falco211 wrote:
eLto wrote:
10 reasons why the PS3 beats all you nintendo fanboys:

1 Nvidia RSX GPU.
2 Cell CPU with 8 dual-cores
3 Bluetooth
4 Blu-Ray (54 GB storage space)
5 Hard drive
6 wireless controllers with motion sensibilty, ergonomically shaped
7 Memory slots for various types of media
8 Support for 7 controllers
9 Plays all sorts of media (mp3, wav, avi, mpg etc.)
10 It looks tons cooler

I know you people like nintendo, and don't get me wrong, so did I, until the N64 came out, still using cartridges. Zelda was GREAT, Goldeneye was GREAT, perfect dark was GREAT, and hell, even diddy kong racing was fun, but nintendo seems to always aim for children and new playing styles, whereas sony (and microsuck) aim for the mainstream masses of multimedia, and therefore get way better performing consoles.


Anyway, that's my opinion, and your opinions are yours. Nothing I can do about it.
I'm sorry but it's not really helping the PS3 right now. I see tons of Ps3s on shelves. Wii has sold 3.19 Million world wide which is amazing. The Ps3 won't sell right now but I'm sure it will next year.

Not sure where you live, but in California I don't see Wii or PS3s on store shelves.

falco211 wrote:
Senshida wrote:
NOOOO! My brand new Wii is broken!
(Got an error after updating, can't use online functions now)
Now I got to send it to Nintendo to get a new one. Crying or Very sad
That's because you got a Wii Demo System. Stores thought they could sell those systems but they can't. Those systems were meant for demo games only and they can not be updated. You'll have to send it to Nintendo so they can send you a real Wii. Wink

Well the demo system also needs a Boot Disk to work... silly people trying to sell consoles that aren't made for retail sales.
falco211
QrafTee wrote:
falco211 wrote:
eLto wrote:
10 reasons why the PS3 beats all you nintendo fanboys:

1 Nvidia RSX GPU.
2 Cell CPU with 8 dual-cores
3 Bluetooth
4 Blu-Ray (54 GB storage space)
5 Hard drive
6 wireless controllers with motion sensibilty, ergonomically shaped
7 Memory slots for various types of media
8 Support for 7 controllers
9 Plays all sorts of media (mp3, wav, avi, mpg etc.)
10 It looks tons cooler

I know you people like nintendo, and don't get me wrong, so did I, until the N64 came out, still using cartridges. Zelda was GREAT, Goldeneye was GREAT, perfect dark was GREAT, and hell, even diddy kong racing was fun, but nintendo seems to always aim for children and new playing styles, whereas sony (and microsuck) aim for the mainstream masses of multimedia, and therefore get way better performing consoles.


Anyway, that's my opinion, and your opinions are yours. Nothing I can do about it.
I'm sorry but it's not really helping the PS3 right now. I see tons of Ps3s on shelves. Wii has sold 3.19 Million world wide which is amazing. The Ps3 won't sell right now but I'm sure it will next year.

Not sure where you live, but in California I don't see Wii or PS3s on store shelves.

falco211 wrote:
Senshida wrote:
NOOOO! My brand new Wii is broken!
(Got an error after updating, can't use online functions now)
Now I got to send it to Nintendo to get a new one. Crying or Very sad
That's because you got a Wii Demo System. Stores thought they could sell those systems but they can't. Those systems were meant for demo games only and they can not be updated. You'll have to send it to Nintendo so they can send you a real Wii. Wink

Well the demo system also needs a Boot Disk to work... silly people trying to sell consoles that aren't made for retail sales.
I live in California too. I don't see any on shelves here but people on other forums post pictures of stores near them with a lot of ps3s on shelves.
datter
Everything is sold out around here, though I did see one on display a week ago. Looks rather neat, my kids would love the thing.

datter
falco211
Adam 552 wrote:
I really want a Wii, there out of stock everywere though
I nearly went crazy when I didn't get the Wii on launch day. I got it about four days after its launch. I'm happy that I have it and it's amazing. I hope you do get one soon.
Lusiphur
Thanks to friends in gaming stores I finally managed to secure myself a Wii.

My initial doubts still remain, am really worried about the remote's novelty wearing out and becoming an annoyance instead of "woh, cool". I get the feeling though that as soon as a lightsaber based game comes out the Wii remote will quickly become the coolest thing in the world Smile

Zelda is a fantastic game, easily the best non-MMoRPG I've played in a long time. Red Steel is so-so. And Wii Sports with 3 drunken mates is the most fun you can have with your clothes on.

Money well spent and highly reccommended to all Smile
DSGamer3002
I got a Wii on November 19th (launch date) and haven't stopped playing it since. I own both a Wii and 360, and haven't switched back to the 360 ever since I plugged in my Wii. (sounds weird, doesn't it? Razz) Since getting my Wii, I've purchased the following games:

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Wii AND GCN)
Rayman Raving Rabbids
Excite Truck
Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz
Madden 07
Elebits (the storyline is horrible, but the gameplay is awesome)

I've played through both versions of Twilight Princess about 3-4 times each, and can't get enough of any of the other games. I also downloaded a few virtual console games, and those are sometimes more fun than these $50 discs. To me, that's saying graphics really don't mean a thing when it comes to having fun playing video games.
BlazeDragon132
I got a Wii during Christmas day.
The games I got were:
-Rayman Raving Rabbids
-Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
-Metal Slug Anthology
-Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz
-Truama Center: Second Opinion

I also bought Excite Truck outside Christmas, and the game is a blast. It is like Burnout on crack! Wink
Ranti84
I want one of these but none of the stores around me have one in stock. Well, one does but it's this huge package that comes with like 6 games...and I only want one of them ~_~.

I want to find just the console and get everything on my own so I don't end up buying extra junk, you know?
enygmasoft
Darn frenchman that took over the Marketing campaign. I liked the sound of Nintendo Revolution, but nooooo. Now I sound like a 2 year old that needs to go to the bathroom.
QrafTee
DSGamer3002 wrote:
I got a Wii on November 19th (launch date) and haven't stopped playing it since. I own both a Wii and 360, and haven't switched back to the 360 ever since I plugged in my Wii. (sounds weird, doesn't it? Razz) Since getting my Wii, I've purchased the following games:

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Wii AND GCN)
Rayman Raving Rabbids
Excite Truck
Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz
Madden 07
Elebits (the storyline is horrible, but the gameplay is awesome)

I've played through both versions of Twilight Princess about 3-4 times each, and can't get enough of any of the other games. I also downloaded a few virtual console games, and those are sometimes more fun than these $50 discs. To me, that's saying graphics really don't mean a thing when it comes to having fun playing video games.


BlazeDragon132 wrote:
I got a Wii during Christmas day.
The games I got were:
-Rayman Raving Rabbids
-Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
-Metal Slug Anthology
-Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz
-Truama Center: Second Opinion

I also bought Excite Truck outside Christmas, and the game is a blast. It is like Burnout on crack! Wink


For the both of you who bought those games, any of them you particularly liked other than LoZ: TP? What's the best multiplayer game out of those games? My friend was looking for a good multiplayer game, but I was only telling him to wait for Super Smash Bros. Brawl...
BlazeDragon132
QrafTee wrote:


BlazeDragon132 wrote:
I got a Wii during Christmas day.
The games I got were:
-Rayman Raving Rabbids
-Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
-Metal Slug Anthology
-Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz
-Truama Center: Second Opinion

I also bought Excite Truck outside Christmas, and the game is a blast. It is like Burnout on crack! Wink


For the both of you who bought those games, any of them you particularly liked other than LoZ: TP? What's the best multiplayer game out of those games? My friend was looking for a good multiplayer game, but I was only telling him to wait for Super Smash Bros. Brawl...

Excite Truck is very fun multiplayer despite being 2 player only.
The best multiplayer I would say is Rayman. The minigames are a blast!
It is not good that I left the component cables back home!
I want to play my Wii now! Sad
The_Gamer294
I got a wii, its the only thing really, new. Other than the new games that are out.
DSGamer3002
QrafTee wrote:
DSGamer3002 wrote:
I got a Wii on November 19th (launch date) and haven't stopped playing it since. I own both a Wii and 360, and haven't switched back to the 360 ever since I plugged in my Wii. (sounds weird, doesn't it? Razz) Since getting my Wii, I've purchased the following games:

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Wii AND GCN)
Rayman Raving Rabbids
Excite Truck
Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz
Madden 07
Elebits (the storyline is horrible, but the gameplay is awesome)

I've played through both versions of Twilight Princess about 3-4 times each, and can't get enough of any of the other games. I also downloaded a few virtual console games, and those are sometimes more fun than these $50 discs. To me, that's saying graphics really don't mean a thing when it comes to having fun playing video games.


For the both of you who bought those games, any of them you particularly liked other than LoZ: TP? What's the best multiplayer game out of those games? My friend was looking for a good multiplayer game, but I was only telling him to wait for Super Smash Bros. Brawl...


Besides TP, which is my favorite out of all of them, I'd have to say I have fun with Rayman Raving Rabbids the second most. It's a very fun game, both single and multiplayer. Next would be Monkey Ball, which is only fun for multiplayer, Excite Truck, and then Madden and Elebits. Elebits' multiplayer is okay, but it's just as fun if you play by yourself. Madden is alright, and I recommend it for any other system because the Wii version, I admit, isn't as good. Excite Truck is just like any other racing game, and those are pretty fun. Wink
ToxicKissLayouts
the wii is a great console and then there's the new Zelda game omg i can't wait for mine to come (have to wait 2 months even though we ordered it at the start of December)
Nintendo is my all fave cos it makes stuff you see in movies...they are working on a 3D game station now all the other game consoles are against Nintendo lol they say they should only make games and not consoles ....anyway yeah sorry I'm just go on and on now ^-^
LostOverThere
I got a Wii For Christmas, And I've been partying until the day is done, for everyday so far.
BluHorizon
i got a wii to and i cant get off it i love the thing the control system is next to none. I think the motion sensors really add something to it that cant be added
to any other consoles and the shape of the remote is perfect for games on it like Zelda where you have to use a sword or wii sports where you have to use a bat. It is by far the best console and i dont think any other conole could beat it not even the the famous ps3.
karumpa
The games look fun but, I think they lack the depth of the PS3 games
QrafTee
karumpa wrote:
The games look fun but, I think they lack the depth of the PS3 games

You mean they lack depth with the exception of The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, right?

Wii Sports, fun, no depth, but what did you expect?
Whong
The Legend of Zelda is really a superb game, Wii Sports isn't bad! It's a lot of fun and you can work out a sweat! Very Happy

Super Smash Bros Brawl will defenitely be one of the best games on Wii! Very Happy
Pyr0kz1d3
The Wii is over-rated. The controls are really hard to use and the graphics are definitely behind a bit.
QrafTee
Pyr0kz1d3 wrote:
The Wii is over-rated. The controls are really hard to use and the graphics are definitely behind a bit.

The controls are hard to use? For what game exactly? Not Wii Sports or Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess for sure. So I'm quite curious since I haven't really tested any third-party games as of yet.
Whong
QrafTee wrote:
Pyr0kz1d3 wrote:
The Wii is over-rated. The controls are really hard to use and the graphics are definitely behind a bit.

The controls are hard to use? For what game exactly? Not Wii Sports or Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess for sure. So I'm quite curious since I haven't really tested any third-party games as of yet.


In my opinion the controlers work really well, perfecto! And the graphics might be a bit back, but not bad at all, in my opinion superb! I don't really see what is the reason to try and make them even better, because games are games, and should look like games, not like a movie in my opinion! Wink

Anyway, Wii is great! Smile
Seiji
The Wii is awesome. It will be even better when the online games come out later this year. I think all online games will be free too.
QrafTee
Seiji wrote:
The Wii is awesome. It will be even better when the online games come out later this year. I think all online games will be free too.

Yeah, basically. I just hope they don't run into all those PS3 Network problems.. hoping that the stall on their network is to optimize it so it's 100% at the start.
Geminh
I think the Wii will definately win the next Console Wars for this generation. My reason for believing so is because a lot of people are starting to realize that Innovation and Gameplay are just as important as better graphics.

The Wii is a revolution to the gaming industry for sure, but all the PS3 has to offer is just prettier graphics. When it comes down to choosing the best Console in this generation, you can't go wrong with a Wii. Plus, they are only at the beginning stages of this system so expect better games to be arriving in the near future. Of course, this is all an opinion.
Futile
Well I waited 5 hours on release day. I was number 8 in line at Sears they had 6. I know sucks to be me. Well found out that EB Games and Gamestops were going to have some on Black Friday, Friday after Thanksgiving. Refusing to be denied, my friend, a cooler of beer, sleping bags and I camped outside of EB Games for 11 and a half hours. Needless to say we were 1 and 2 in line. By opening time at 7am the next morning there were 40 + in line waiting. They had 6. Well worth the wait. I have Zelda TP, Madden 07, Marvel Ultimate Alliance, Trauma Center. Looking forward to Wario next week and Super Smash Brothers later this year.

The only downside I have about it is that Nintendo did not account for 4 controllers per console. 4 million consoles = 16 million total remotes. Slight oversight but not a show stopper. I have 3.
ItsWesley
The Wii is good and all, but the main problem is that nintendo really didn't do a good enough job in making enough wii's to sell. They ran out of stock in days here and there haven't been any more given out to stores nearby...
hardcoregamer808
I love the wii, Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess is just awesome, wii sports is also fun, and Rayman: Raving Rabbits is a great party game, I love the wii whenever we have some type of family get together.
QrafTee
ItsWesley wrote:
The Wii is good and all, but the main problem is that nintendo really didn't do a good enough job in making enough wii's to sell. They ran out of stock in days here and there haven't been any more given out to stores nearby...

Umm... wow are you serious? Wiis, almost 4 million. PS3s, around 1 million. Wii was released AFTER the PS3. I think Nintendo is doing a pretty damn good job releasing the Wiis. I mean the 360 would've had the same problem if their consoles sold as well as the Wiis during its launch, but it didn't so no one really complained.
Whong
QrafTee wrote:
ItsWesley wrote:
The Wii is good and all, but the main problem is that nintendo really didn't do a good enough job in making enough wii's to sell. They ran out of stock in days here and there haven't been any more given out to stores nearby...

Umm... wow are you serious? Wiis, almost 4 million. PS3s, around 1 million. Wii was released AFTER the PS3. I think Nintendo is doing a pretty damn good job releasing the Wiis. I mean the 360 would've had the same problem if their consoles sold as well as the Wiis during its launch, but it didn't so no one really complained.



I guess people like to try out something new for a change so Wii is perfect for those who want to play games in a new revolutionary way! Very Happy
wombatrpgs
So far it doesn't seem to me to be so much as "I want to play in a revolutionary way" as much as "I want to play." The normal customers are purchasing the sonsole, of course, but it seems that everyone else is interested in actually being able to do something with a console other than be taken aback by the buttons.

Even so, its not like its very 'simple.' Sure, Wii Sports is very easy, but if you look at almost any other game, it requires many buttons and usually the nunchuk. And certain games don't really make good use of the capabilities either.
QrafTee
wombatrpgs wrote:
So far it doesn't seem to me to be so much as "I want to play in a revolutionary way" as much as "I want to play." The normal customers are purchasing the sonsole, of course, but it seems that everyone else is interested in actually being able to do something with a console other than be taken aback by the buttons.

Even so, its not like its very 'simple.' Sure, Wii Sports is very easy, but if you look at almost any other game, it requires many buttons and usually the nunchuk. And certain games don't really make good use of the capabilities either.

Well obviously Nintendo is making most of the "simple" games like Wii Sports and Wii Play. I mean to the casual... very very casual player (not gamer), Wii Sports doesn't lose it's magic for a long long time.
falco211
wombatrpgs wrote:
So far it doesn't seem to me to be so much as "I want to play in a revolutionary way" as much as "I want to play." The normal customers are purchasing the sonsole, of course, but it seems that everyone else is interested in actually being able to do something with a console other than be taken aback by the buttons.

Even so, its not like its very 'simple.' Sure, Wii Sports is very easy, but if you look at almost any other game, it requires many buttons and usually the nunchuk. And certain games don't really make good use of the capabilities either.
That's because they want to appeal to the casual gamers. The casuals hardly buy anything with Nintendo written on it. They have to appeal to them in a new way. For the hardcore gamers out there they will have games like Metroid Prime 3, Battalion Wars 2, No More Heroes, Super Mario Galaxy, Sonic and the Secret Rings ect..
Senshida
Who is looking foward to Sadness or Disaster: Day of Crisis? *raises hand*
kamu
you can't really compare the ps3 and the wii. But the worst thing about ps3 is that it doesn't have *awesome* games like HALO series n' other games which are on the 360. The wii is kinda cool because of it's contorller mainly. I'll probably buy the ps3 when the price comes real down!
wombatrpgs
I didn't really buy the Wii for its controller, more than it is a Nintendo console. If you look at gameplay rather than console capabilites the choices are clear. I personally am a big fan of Super Smash Brothers, Legend of Zelda, and Fire Emblem so I naturally went with the console with those games. It looks like Xbox mainly has Halo...
ps3vault
Wii is most cote 7th generation cute console. I think it will be big success for Nintendo, they deserve it
BlockUp
I'm gonna use mine to lose weight Very Happy

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Chasingu
I have a wii. LOZ:TP Rocks!!!!!!!!!
SUPER_KNUCKLES
I have the wii, and I got it on the 19th'.

I would say that online could be beter, but it's free.

And Wii sports rocks, but Elebits would have to be my favorite.

I have Wii Sports, Elebits, Red Steal Brick wall , Zelda, and madden.

Can't wait for VC games!

Can't wait for the news channel too!

See ya'

S_K
wombatrpgs
I wonder if the News Channel will actually get any intraverts into the world... I doubt it. But I know I'll definitely use it.
william
SUPER_KNUCKLES wrote:
I have the wii, and I got it on the 19th'.

I would say that online could be beter, but it's free.

And Wii sports rocks, but Elebits would have to be my favorite.

I have Wii Sports, Elebits, Red Steal Brick wall , Zelda, and madden.

Can't wait for VC games!

Can't wait for the news channel too!

See ya'

S_K


Hmm...could you elaborate on what you mean when you say "online could be better"? You're not the first person I've heard this from, and I'm really curious about why this is the case. I don't own a Wii, so I really can't comment on it by experience, but rather from what I've seen; and from what I've seen, it's pretty good.
QrafTee
william wrote:
SUPER_KNUCKLES wrote:
I have the wii, and I got it on the 19th'.

I would say that online could be beter, but it's free.

And Wii sports rocks, but Elebits would have to be my favorite.

I have Wii Sports, Elebits, Red Steal Brick wall , Zelda, and madden.

Can't wait for VC games!

Can't wait for the news channel too!

See ya'

S_K


Hmm...could you elaborate on what you mean when you say "online could be better"? You're not the first person I've heard this from, and I'm really curious about why this is the case. I don't own a Wii, so I really can't comment on it by experience, but rather from what I've seen; and from what I've seen, it's pretty good.

He means using the internet can cause the Wii to freeze... more than once in awhile. Whenever you lose connection, the Wii freezes. And there are currently no online support for the current games while the 360 and the PS3 already have games with online support.
william
QrafTee wrote:
william wrote:
SUPER_KNUCKLES wrote:
I have the wii, and I got it on the 19th'.

I would say that online could be beter, but it's free.

And Wii sports rocks, but Elebits would have to be my favorite.

I have Wii Sports, Elebits, Red Steal Brick wall , Zelda, and madden.

Can't wait for VC games!

Can't wait for the news channel too!

See ya'

S_K


Hmm...could you elaborate on what you mean when you say "online could be better"? You're not the first person I've heard this from, and I'm really curious about why this is the case. I don't own a Wii, so I really can't comment on it by experience, but rather from what I've seen; and from what I've seen, it's pretty good.

He means using the internet can cause the Wii to freeze... more than once in awhile. Whenever you lose connection, the Wii freezes. And there are currently no online support for the current games while the 360 and the PS3 already have games with online support.


Well, I knew about that happening, but I wouldn't really accuse the online service for that.

As for online support for games, sure they don't have any now, but they will.

If those are the only problems one finds with the Wii's online service, then it's really no big deal. But I think the other people who told me the Wii's online service needed improvement were referring to something else. Hmm... Think
Serafina
My dad just got my brother one as a really late Christmas present. He sent it through the mail from Wisconsin. @.@

Does anyone have any recommendations for games other than Twilight Princess?
BlockUp
Smooth Moves is a MUST HAVE game on Wii.
MasterfulMongoose
i just bought smooth moves yesterday Wink
i hope i can get on my wii today.
Seiji
I hear they are releasing Online news on the Wii......thats sounds fun Laughing I can't wait to get into some online gameplay with my Wii.
falco211
Serafina wrote:
My dad just got my brother one as a really late Christmas present. He sent it through the mail from Wisconsin. @.@

Does anyone have any recommendations for games other than Twilight Princess?
Red Steel, Elebits, Madden 07, and Warioware are great games.
wombatrpgs
Well I just got the time to update News channel, pretty awesome.
unknownc1c
I still can't believe someone died trying to get a wii. That whole contest "Hold your wee for a wii" what a stupid idea. The lady drank so much water that her cells couldn't hold anymore and shut down. She died from too much water intake! LOL WTH!?

I'm not a huge fan of the wii, but i've never really tried it. It sounds kinda stupid to me. So far someone's died trying to get it and i heard something about the straps on them keep comming lose and breaking things.
QrafTee
wombatrpgs wrote:
Well I just got the time to update News channel, pretty awesome.

Does the Wii News Channel have an article about the whole Wee Wii thing? Wouldn't that be a little ironic?
lost
eLto wrote:
10 reasons why the PS3 beats all you nintendo fanboys:

1 Nvidia RSX GPU.
2 Cell CPU with 8 dual-cores
3 Bluetooth
4 Blu-Ray (54 GB storage space)
5 Hard drive
6 wireless controllers with motion sensibilty, ergonomically shaped
7 Memory slots for various types of media
8 Support for 7 controllers
9 Plays all sorts of media (mp3, wav, avi, mpg etc.)
10 It looks tons cooler

I know you people like nintendo, and don't get me wrong, so did I, until the N64 came out, still using cartridges. Zelda was GREAT, Goldeneye was GREAT, perfect dark was GREAT, and hell, even diddy kong racing was fun, but nintendo seems to always aim for children and new playing styles, whereas sony (and microsuck) aim for the mainstream masses of multimedia, and therefore get way better performing consoles.


Anyway, that's my opinion, and your opinions are yours. Nothing I can do about it.




yes i know this is a old post but i ahve one thing to say about it... i have a Wii got it for christmas and the fact is Wii sold more than PS3 on the market i mean who would wanna buy something that cost 600$+ when u can get the "pretty much" exact same thing for less i mean its like this... wii has internet "beta" news channel , weather channel, SHop channel "able to buy games from all those old systems and download to wii" it can play nintedo game cube games and the most "funniest in my oppion" is the Mii channel "make ur own character" and it even as friend capabilites....not only that but
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wireless controllers with motion sensibilty, ergonomically shaped

all wii games are motion controled and wire less..... not to mention
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Memory slots for various types of media and Plays all sorts of media (mp3, wav, avi, mpg etc.)
wii has that same capabilite and even for photos and video if u have a recorder and a sams card "or what ever u call them"


thats my oppion..... also i beat LOZTP "legend of zelda twilight princess" in 2 days...to be exact...about 48 house with out getting extra crap and no guide....it rules at the moment i am currently at 55 hours of game time cuz i love it so much..
willy101
Wii's were meant to be an "impulse" purchase. Also the objective was to make an innovative, yet cost effective gaming platform.
I'd recommend DBZ Tenkaichi 2. It's not strictly for the "fanboys" either. Not only is it a solid fighter, it t takes advantage of the motion sensing abilities of the wii.
wombatrpgs
That's another thing I've 'noticed' about the Wii games I've seen so far. The controller isn't even used, excepting a few 1st party games, such as Wii Sports/Play and Wario Ware... It almost makes it seems a bit of a nuisance to me actually, as its used for a small, but vital piece of gameplay...
QrafTee
wombatrpgs wrote:
That's another thing I've 'noticed' about the Wii games I've seen so far. The controller isn't even used, excepting a few 1st party games, such as Wii Sports/Play and Wario Ware... It almost makes it seems a bit of a nuisance to me actually, as its used for a small, but vital piece of gameplay...

Please specify that a little more.
willy101
I'm guessing he means that the motion sensing features aren't fully utilized except in the Nintendo developed games. Although it's used quite well in DBZ tenkaichi, which uses the "traditional" buttons for hand to hand and regular combat, while using the motions for flying and special attacks. Madden '07 uses the motion capabilities quite well also. Although I haven't played it, many people have cited it as an innovative madden.

Generally I'd have to agree with his sentiment that it's usually the first party games that make full use of the wiimote and nunchuk's potential.
falco211
wombatrpgs wrote:
That's another thing I've 'noticed' about the Wii games I've seen so far. The controller isn't even used, excepting a few 1st party games, such as Wii Sports/Play and Wario Ware... It almost makes it seems a bit of a nuisance to me actually, as its used for a small, but vital piece of gameplay...
Which games don't use the Wiimote? Have you played every single Wii game out there? Red Steel uses Wiimote (3rd Party), Rayman uses Wiimote (3rd Party), and Elebits uses Wiimote (3rd Party). Oh wait all Wii games out right now use the remote.
QrafTee
falco211 wrote:
wombatrpgs wrote:
That's another thing I've 'noticed' about the Wii games I've seen so far. The controller isn't even used, excepting a few 1st party games, such as Wii Sports/Play and Wario Ware... It almost makes it seems a bit of a nuisance to me actually, as its used for a small, but vital piece of gameplay...
Which games don't use the Wiimote? Have you played every single Wii game out there? Red Steel uses Wiimote (3rd Party), Rayman uses Wiimote (3rd Party), and Elebits uses Wiimote (3rd Party). Oh wait all Wii games out right now use the remote.

See, that's why I asked him to specify...
wombatrpgs
QrafTee wrote:
wombatrpgs wrote:
That's another thing I've 'noticed' about the Wii games I've seen so far. The controller isn't even used, excepting a few 1st party games, such as Wii Sports/Play and Wario Ware... It almost makes it seems a bit of a nuisance to me actually, as its used for a small, but vital piece of gameplay...

Please specify that a little more.


I was mostly thinking of Twilight Princess with this in mind... I've played through once, a really great game, but almost no real use of the controller. It is used for sword atacks, but I can shake it back and forth and a computer controls how I swing. To fish I shake up and down. As long as the controller moves I'm fine. The bow is the only real good use.

Maybe this is just because Twilight Princess is also for the gamecube, but...

It doesn't matter in most of these games how the controller is moved, as long as it is moved. I'm still looking for a game where I can actually control the movement of a sword, or control the actual motion of the charatcer's arm. The potential in most areas in being wasted. I can't say I've played Madden or Elebits, but I have tried a few others: Monkey Ball makes good use, Wii Sports of course makes good use... But these are all in abstract areas, not in a humanoid control. Even Wii Sports is limitted to some extent: I can't really 'control' for example, a tennis swing, its only timing that counts. Motion isn't sensitive enough to really feel in control to a higher level.

On the most part, it appears to me that this technology is being wasted. So far the only real use of the finesse for the controller has been one minigame in Twilight Princess, and I'm terrible at it. What I'm looking for is a game where the the controller's actual path is important, not the general path of motion.

About being a vital piece of gameplay, this I mainly meant thigns like Twilight Princess and Red Steel. The controller is used in such a fashion in the later, that a majority of the time I can go on without a controller, but then I'll have to make some movement to swing a sword somewhere. In Red Steel aiming is very nice, but it seems to be annoying to me to have to use it as a directional pointer. Although that does lead to the newbie syndrome of spinning in a circle...



falco211 wrote:
Which games don't use the Wiimote? Have you played every single Wii game out there? Red Steel uses Wiimote (3rd Party), Rayman uses Wiimote (3rd Party), and Elebits uses Wiimote (3rd Party). Oh wait all Wii games out right now use the remote.


Of course they 'use' the controller. But is it utilized in a way that is unique and cannot be replaced by a joystick? This axis just isn't being used in the ways it can be: most games use it arbitrarily.
LoZOwns
It's true that some Wii games out there dont really use the wii remote or the remote doesnt really mimic you're moves as accurately as it should.

However that will change in many if not all of the upcoming games and
one good reason is "Livemove".

"Livemove" is developed by a company called "Ailive" and in late October of '06 announced a partnership with Nintendo offering the use of their program to developers.

In short "Livemove" is a program developers can purchase and can then eliminate the need to spend weeks writing complicated code for the motion controls. Instead they will use the programs tools to capture motions and unlike most current games the program will allow Gesture specific controls instead of just tilt and accelerometer controls.

IE: swinging the wiimote in Zelda makes Link swing his sword in a set series of swings that do not necessarily mimic you're swings. (The accelerometer triggers this interaction)

With "Livemove": you swing up and down, and so will Link.

Learn more here: http://www.ailive.net/
squeakypants
I'm unimpressed by Wii Sports and Red Steel. However, Zelda is AMAZING. I absolutely love it.
orizak
Yes, Zelda IS amazing. I think it's the best game I've ever played honestly.

Anyhoo, about what wombatrpgs was saying about how the Wiimote isn't being used, you have to keep in mind that it hasn't even been 3 months since the Wii was released. Of course the games don't use the Wiimote to its full potential; it's way too early. The developers have had basically just themselves to test out ways to use it over the past couple years, and I think that most of the games that REALLY use the Wiimote are going to come in time as developers (and gamers) become more familiar with the controller.

My 2 cents anyways.
wombatrpgs
LoZOwns wrote:
It's true that some Wii games out there dont really use the wii remote or the remote doesnt really mimic you're moves as accurately as it should.

However that will change in many if not all of the upcoming games and
one good reason is "Livemove".

"Livemove" is developed by a company called "Ailive" and in late October of '06 announced a partnership with Nintendo offering the use of their program to developers.

In short "Livemove" is a program developers can purchase and can then eliminate the need to spend weeks writing complicated code for the motion controls. Instead they will use the programs tools to capture motions and unlike most current games the program will allow Gesture specific controls instead of just tilt and accelerometer controls.

IE: swinging the wiimote in Zelda makes Link swing his sword in a set series of swings that do not necessarily mimic you're swings. (The accelerometer triggers this interaction)

With "Livemove": you swing up and down, and so will Link.

Learn more here: http://www.ailive.net/


That's much more what I was expecting from Nintendo, and much more what the Wii was supposed to be. I didn't realize the mapping of the controller in a path was unavailable but hopefully this will increase the quality of use.
Coclus
The Wii is pretty sweet, the graphics really suck but the games are fun anyway.. It's just another concept..
QrafTee
wombatrpgs wrote:
LoZOwns wrote:
It's true that some Wii games out there dont really use the wii remote or the remote doesnt really mimic you're moves as accurately as it should.

However that will change in many if not all of the upcoming games and
one good reason is "Livemove".

"Livemove" is developed by a company called "Ailive" and in late October of '06 announced a partnership with Nintendo offering the use of their program to developers.

In short "Livemove" is a program developers can purchase and can then eliminate the need to spend weeks writing complicated code for the motion controls. Instead they will use the programs tools to capture motions and unlike most current games the program will allow Gesture specific controls instead of just tilt and accelerometer controls.

IE: swinging the wiimote in Zelda makes Link swing his sword in a set series of swings that do not necessarily mimic you're swings. (The accelerometer triggers this interaction)

With "Livemove": you swing up and down, and so will Link.

Learn more here: http://www.ailive.net/


That's much more what I was expecting from Nintendo, and much more what the Wii was supposed to be. I didn't realize the mapping of the controller in a path was unavailable but hopefully this will increase the quality of use.

Yeah, I read that AiLive thing and I'm very happy about it. I know how hard it would be to code movement because I code simple DOS programs (for class) and it's rather time consuming as it is.

My friends and I are psyched that this AiLive thing will make the games more realistic and we, also, expected it to be that way from the beginning.
Whong
Coclus wrote:
The Wii is pretty sweet, the graphics really suck but the games are fun anyway.. It's just another concept..



Man, the graphics are great, not superb but good! Idea

It's so much about how much you expect from the graphics. Wink Idea
schooldays
Serafina wrote:
My dad just got my brother one as a really late Christmas present. He sent it through the mail from Wisconsin. @.@

Does anyone have any recommendations for games other than Twilight Princess?


WarioWare: Smooth Moves is great, but it got average reviews. I liked it personally.

I don't own a Wii, but I will hopefully be getting one soon. I've played WarioWare, Twilight Princess, and Wii Sports so far. I'm also interested in Wii Play and Super Mario Galaxy.
Fire Boar
I've got Wario Ware and, in short, it's amazing!

However, there are a couple of things I felt were wrong with it.

1) In the Temple of Form, you only play the game once for each level. They would have done much better to do once for each level, then upgrade a speed and go back to level one; rinse and repeat, trying to get a high score.

2) After beating the level 3 form of the boss, you don't get any of the "speed up!" thing. It's nothing major, but I think it would have been better with it in.
Whong
Fire Boar wrote:
I've got Wario Ware and, in short, it's amazing!

However, there are a couple of things I felt were wrong with it.

1) In the Temple of Form, you only play the game once for each level. They would have done much better to do once for each level, then upgrade a speed and go back to level one; rinse and repeat, trying to get a high score.

2) After beating the level 3 form of the boss, you don't get any of the "speed up!" thing. It's nothing major, but I think it would have been better with it in.


How would you rate Wario Ware from 1 to 10?

Is it a great gaming experience?
moonblade
Have to say that Wii is rather a positive step in game development, since for a change someone focused on controllers and things linked to that instead of just morosely pushing graphics plank further upwards... Mah hat goes off to the folk from Nintendo for getting something innovative out to the market - and my money will go to them as well once the game library starts looking a tad more full than it is now.
QrafTee
moonblade wrote:
Have to say that Wii is rather a positive step in game development, since for a change someone focused on controllers and things linked to that instead of just morosely pushing graphics plank further upwards... Mah hat goes off to the folk from Nintendo for getting something innovative out to the market - and my money will go to them as well once the game library starts looking a tad more full than it is now.

Yeah, but you gotta admit graphics is nice too, right? I just want Nintendo to stop beating away the third-party companies with a monkeywrench. All third-party companies don't want to compete against Nintendo.
Whong
QrafTee wrote:
All third-party companies don't want to compete against Nintendo.


Yes, but Nintendo has to be careful too. If Wii wouldn't have been such a success as it has now turned to be, Nintendo could have gone bankrupt. So Nintendo needs to be careful, since Sony and Microsoft are such tough competetors! Exclamation
wombatrpgs
QrafTee wrote:
All third-party companies don't want to compete against Nintendo.


By third party do you mean Microsoft and Sony, or smaller venues? Because if you're trying to imply Nintendo is too successful and has some sort of strangle-hold on the market, I don't think that's accurate. And I would say the reverse of the situation described is true: Nintendo doesn't want to 'compete' against Microsoft and Sony, they want to "Revolutionize" their genre. (Thus the project name.)
QrafTee
wombatrpgs wrote:
QrafTee wrote:
All third-party companies don't want to compete against Nintendo.


By third party do you mean Microsoft and Sony, or smaller venues? Because if you're trying to imply Nintendo is too successful and has some sort of strangle-hold on the market, I don't think that's accurate. And I would say the reverse of the situation described is true: Nintendo doesn't want to 'compete' against Microsoft and Sony, they want to "Revolutionize" their genre. (Thus the project name.)


I believe there was a short exerpt in EGM (last year) which the president of some company (I think Konami or Namco... or neither) said that the biggest competition you have going against you when you're making a game for a Nintendo console is Nintendo.
photon
Well i daresay that currently the WII is the best console. It has a very good collection of games, is pretty cheap, easily available, and more importantly, has the intutive controller, for which there is actually quite some demand. And yea, nintendo is the first enemy for every game developer, and that puts it at a great disadvantage. But i dont think that is an issue with the wii. Its going strong, and to me, is the winner of the current console wars
Whong
photon wrote:
Well i daresay that currently the WII is the best console. It has a very good collection of games, is pretty cheap, easily available, and more importantly, has the intutive controller, for which there is actually quite some demand. And yea, nintendo is the first enemy for every game developer, and that puts it at a great disadvantage. But i dont think that is an issue with the wii. Its going strong, and to me, is the winner of the current console wars


I completely agree with you Photon! My opinions are exactly the same as yours! It is really nice that people still love the good old Big N! Very Happy

Has anyone heard any news of SSBB? Just can't wait for it! Wink
wombatrpgs
QrafTee wrote:

I believe there was a short exerpt in EGM (last year) which the president of some company (I think Konami or Namco... or neither) said that the biggest competition you have going against you when you're making a game for a Nintendo console is Nintendo.


Than that would be for Konami and Namco. It doesn't really make sense for Microsoft to make a game for a Nintendo system, which is why I asked if you meant third party as in smaller game makers or thir party as in removed makers like Microsoft and Sony competing mainly by console.
Fire Boar
Whong wrote:
Fire Boar wrote:
I've got Wario Ware and, in short, it's amazing!

However, there are a couple of things I felt were wrong with it.

1) In the Temple of Form, you only play the game once for each level. They would have done much better to do once for each level, then upgrade a speed and go back to level one; rinse and repeat, trying to get a high score.

2) After beating the level 3 form of the boss, you don't get any of the "speed up!" thing. It's nothing major, but I think it would have been better with it in.


How would you rate Wario Ware from 1 to 10?

Is it a great gaming experience?


I'm not very good at rating things on a scale... I'd go between 8 and 9, I suppose. I can break that down a bit:

Summary of what it's about:
Basically, there is no real storyline at all. You simply pick a character (each has a different group of microgames) and play. You are shown the "form" you will be using (ie. how you need to hold the 'mote), then it launches straight into the microgame. Complete it, and it moves onto the next. Again, you are shown the "form" you'll need. And so on. Periodically, the game will speed up, getting faster and faster. After about 10-20 games (it varies between characters) there will be a boss stage. These tend to last longer and are more difficult. But if you win, you gain a life (up to the maximum of four). After each boss stage, the microgames all get harder. Screw up on any of the games and you lose a life; it's game over when you lose all four.

Good bits:
- It's funny. And I mean laugh-out-loud funny, not vague chuckle funny.
- It's addictive. Really addictive gameplay that makes you keep wanting to go back and get a better score.
- Great variety. There are over 180 microgames, I think.
- It gets insane! Each microgame lasts only a few "ticks" (on the slowest speed, 1 tick is half a second), and you barely have time to change form before going onto the next when the speed gets really hectic.
- 12 player multiplayer mode means that nobody gets left out.

Bad bits:
- "Completing" the game is no tough feat, and can be done within a few hours. You only have to finish one boss stage with each character.
- It's not the sort of game you spend a lot of time on; more the sort to dip into.
- It makes you look very very silly.
Whong
Ok, thanks Fire Boar. That gave me an idea of the game.

Wink
Satori
So I can't wait to finally get to play the Wii. I'm going to visit my friends in my hometown this week and two of them have Wiis. I've been wanting one since before they came out and just haven't had any luck in finding one. I refuse to pay anything over retail for one, so I just have to hope I stumble upon one whenever I go to Target or Best Buy or whatever.

So it seems to me that the Wii is definitely the best of the consoles. I haven't played any of the next gen consoles, but it just seems to me like the Wii is just far beyond the 360 or the PS3. Not necessarily in terms of hardware or graphics, but in overall enjoyability. It seems to reach a much broader audience then the other consoles, in a similar fashion as the DS has done for handhelds.

I myself have always loved Nintendo (never owned any system but Nintendo and have owned them all except the Wii and a few of the handhelds.) In the past, I've felt I had to defend them against attacks from Sony and Microsoft lovers, but now I don't feel like I have to.

So anyone have any favorite games for the Wii? I'm excited for the sports and Wario Ware, as well as Zelda of course. Any others I should watch out for?
Duncan Idaho
I would like to say that the Wii is better because I've tried it before, but other than that, I wouldn't know. I've never tried the other consoles, so I should remain neutral on this.
QrafTee
Satori wrote:
So I can't wait to finally get to play the Wii. I'm going to visit my friends in my hometown this week and two of them have Wiis. I've been wanting one since before they came out and just haven't had any luck in finding one. I refuse to pay anything over retail for one, so I just have to hope I stumble upon one whenever I go to Target or Best Buy or whatever.

So it seems to me that the Wii is definitely the best of the consoles. I haven't played any of the next gen consoles, but it just seems to me like the Wii is just far beyond the 360 or the PS3. Not necessarily in terms of hardware or graphics, but in overall enjoyability. It seems to reach a much broader audience then the other consoles, in a similar fashion as the DS has done for handhelds.

I myself have always loved Nintendo (never owned any system but Nintendo and have owned them all except the Wii and a few of the handhelds.) In the past, I've felt I had to defend them against attacks from Sony and Microsoft lovers, but now I don't feel like I have to.

So anyone have any favorite games for the Wii? I'm excited for the sports and Wario Ware, as well as Zelda of course. Any others I should watch out for?

Currently, I'm looking forward to Super Smash Bros Brawl. My favorite game so far? Definitely Wii Sports.
Whong
QrafTee wrote:
Satori wrote:
So I can't wait to finally get to play the Wii. I'm going to visit my friends in my hometown this week and two of them have Wiis. I've been wanting one since before they came out and just haven't had any luck in finding one. I refuse to pay anything over retail for one, so I just have to hope I stumble upon one whenever I go to Target or Best Buy or whatever.

So it seems to me that the Wii is definitely the best of the consoles. I haven't played any of the next gen consoles, but it just seems to me like the Wii is just far beyond the 360 or the PS3. Not necessarily in terms of hardware or graphics, but in overall enjoyability. It seems to reach a much broader audience then the other consoles, in a similar fashion as the DS has done for handhelds.

I myself have always loved Nintendo (never owned any system but Nintendo and have owned them all except the Wii and a few of the handhelds.) In the past, I've felt I had to defend them against attacks from Sony and Microsoft lovers, but now I don't feel like I have to.

So anyone have any favorite games for the Wii? I'm excited for the sports and Wario Ware, as well as Zelda of course. Any others I should watch out for?

Currently, I'm looking forward to Super Smash Bros Brawl. My favorite game so far? Definitely Wii Sports.


Yeah! Super Smash Bro Brawl is definitely one of the most awaited games. Does anyone know when it will be released? Question
Wish4Me
Whong wrote:
QrafTee wrote:
Satori wrote:
So I can't wait to finally get to play the Wii. I'm going to visit my friends in my hometown this week and two of them have Wiis. I've been wanting one since before they came out and just haven't had any luck in finding one. I refuse to pay anything over retail for one, so I just have to hope I stumble upon one whenever I go to Target or Best Buy or whatever.

So it seems to me that the Wii is definitely the best of the consoles. I haven't played any of the next gen consoles, but it just seems to me like the Wii is just far beyond the 360 or the PS3. Not necessarily in terms of hardware or graphics, but in overall enjoyability. It seems to reach a much broader audience then the other consoles, in a similar fashion as the DS has done for handhelds.

I myself have always loved Nintendo (never owned any system but Nintendo and have owned them all except the Wii and a few of the handhelds.) In the past, I've felt I had to defend them against attacks from Sony and Microsoft lovers, but now I don't feel like I have to.

So anyone have any favorite games for the Wii? I'm excited for the sports and Wario Ware, as well as Zelda of course. Any others I should watch out for?

Currently, I'm looking forward to Super Smash Bros Brawl. My favorite game so far? Definitely Wii Sports.


Yeah! Super Smash Bro Brawl is definitely one of the most awaited games. Does anyone know when it will be released? Question


They said it would be released sometime in Q3 2007. So soon !!
Whong
Wish4Me wrote:
Whong wrote:
QrafTee wrote:
Satori wrote:
So I can't wait to finally get to play the Wii. I'm going to visit my friends in my hometown this week and two of them have Wiis. I've been wanting one since before they came out and just haven't had any luck in finding one. I refuse to pay anything over retail for one, so I just have to hope I stumble upon one whenever I go to Target or Best Buy or whatever.

So it seems to me that the Wii is definitely the best of the consoles. I haven't played any of the next gen consoles, but it just seems to me like the Wii is just far beyond the 360 or the PS3. Not necessarily in terms of hardware or graphics, but in overall enjoyability. It seems to reach a much broader audience then the other consoles, in a similar fashion as the DS has done for handhelds.

I myself have always loved Nintendo (never owned any system but Nintendo and have owned them all except the Wii and a few of the handhelds.) In the past, I've felt I had to defend them against attacks from Sony and Microsoft lovers, but now I don't feel like I have to.

So anyone have any favorite games for the Wii? I'm excited for the sports and Wario Ware, as well as Zelda of course. Any others I should watch out for?

Currently, I'm looking forward to Super Smash Bros Brawl. My favorite game so far? Definitely Wii Sports.


Yeah! Super Smash Bro Brawl is definitely one of the most awaited games. Does anyone know when it will be released? Question


They said it would be released sometime in Q3 2007. So soon !!


That's great, just can't wait for it! Very Happy

I wish it would have a looooooooooot of characters! Wink
LinkinPink
Oh yeah. I still don't know why they put snake in it though... o_O
QrafTee
LinkinPink wrote:
Oh yeah. I still don't know why they put snake in it though... o_O

Creator of SSB and creator of MGS are friends, that's why.
Seiji
I'm getting Sonic tomorrow. I hope it'll be good. I wish Super Smash Bros. would come out already.
QrafTee
Seiji wrote:
I'm getting Sonic tomorrow. I hope it'll be good. I wish Super Smash Bros. would come out already.

Well word is Sonic and the Secret Rings breaks the Sonic Curse that Sega seemed to have been a victim to.
Senshida
Some people didn't like the 3D sonics.. (I did)
But now, many people think Secret Rings is the best 3D sonic.
wombatrpgs
Meh... 3D killed Sonic. Actually, it wasn't so much of the dimensional effect to gameplay as much as the re-marketting of one of our favorite characters. I was very in to Sonic 1, 2, 3, and Knuckles, beating all of them to their limits, and then decided to boot up Sadventure 2 only to find Tails having the voiceover of a six year old, Sonic becoming some sort of one-dimensional sappy hero, and probably the worst Knuckles cast as some sort of ghetto rapper. Really.

I haven't tried Secret Rings, but if it lacks the elements of being marketted to ages <10 I might try it. SA2:B spoiled the 3ds for me. (Although I here Heroes was even worse)
Wish4Me
"That's great, just can't wait for it! Very Happy

I wish it would have a looooooooooot of characters"

-There will be a lot.

"Oh yeah. I still don't know why they put snake in it though... o_O"

-Because snake is awesome.... o_O; Duh!

"I haven't tried Secret Rings, but if it lacks the elements of being marketted to ages <10 I might try it. SA2:B spoiled the 3ds for me. (Although I here Heroes was even worse)"

-Yeah it was. But I am hearing nothing but good from the new sonic. It has been completely redesigned and it looks great.
JJGY
I can't wait for SSBB. Melee was one of my favorite GC games, and by far the best party game available for the system.
Wish4Me
"I can't wait for SSBB. Melee was one of my favorite GC games, and by far the best party game available for the system."

Me either. Super smash brothers melee was one of the greatest fighting games of all time. It had balance and features. A great single player and is probably one of the best multiplayer ever if not for no online. Imagine SSB online with online tournaments. Im damn near positive the game will have a pro gaming level on that of or better than even Madden does. I really really cannot wait for it to come out and I hope they dont disapoint with a shitty game. They wont though because too many big hopes are on the game.

But yeah imagine if nintendo made games for other systems. ;P If not just a hardware company they are one of the best software companies out there.
wombatrpgs
I wouldn't be surprised if it were a very good game. Even rushed SSBM was excellent. A rush would hurt Brawl, but its not happenning. It was slated to be a launch title at first, and that didn't exactly happenned. It'll be worth the wait; most delayed games are. Just think of what Miyamoto did for Kirby.
QrafTee
wombatrpgs wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if it were a very good game. Even rushed SSBM was excellent. A rush would hurt Brawl, but its not happenning. It was slated to be a launch title at first, and that didn't exactly happenned. It'll be worth the wait; most delayed games are. Just think of what Miyamoto did for Kirby.

I'm glad that we were told to keep our GCN controllers because I have 4 of them, in pretty good shape. (original controller with GCN and a second one died on me, it was horrible)
wombatrpgs
QrafTee wrote:

I'm glad that we were told to keep our GCN controllers because I have 4 of them, in pretty good shape. (original controller with GCN and a second one died on me, it was horrible)


Judging by past uses of the controller, (see previous rant), this should improve the quality than it would be with arbitrary commands assigned to an accelorometer.

It seemed to me the original GCN controller was the hardiest. You never saw those for resale, and I've never seen one broken. On the other hand, my MadCatz controller's B button doesn't work, and I know a friend who's brother decided to chew off part of a control stick and then played with syruppy fingers. At the age of ten.
realkiller
wii rules love it so much i think id die with out it Smile
xlife
I Love the wii I have test it and it was really good !!!!

Wink Wink
Tim Prod Baby !!!!
Satori
Satori wrote:
So I can't wait to finally get to play the Wii. I'm going to visit my friends in my hometown this week and two of them have Wiis. I've been wanting one since before they came out and just haven't had any luck in finding one. I refuse to pay anything over retail for one, so I just have to hope I stumble upon one whenever I go to Target or Best Buy or whatever.

So it seems to me that the Wii is definitely the best of the consoles. I haven't played any of the next gen consoles, but it just seems to me like the Wii is just far beyond the 360 or the PS3. Not necessarily in terms of hardware or graphics, but in overall enjoyability. It seems to reach a much broader audience then the other consoles, in a similar fashion as the DS has done for handhelds.

I myself have always loved Nintendo (never owned any system but Nintendo and have owned them all except the Wii and a few of the handhelds.) In the past, I've felt I had to defend them against attacks from Sony and Microsoft lovers, but now I don't feel like I have to.

So anyone have any favorite games for the Wii? I'm excited for the sports and Wario Ware, as well as Zelda of course. Any others I should watch out for?


So I played wii sports, wii play, and wario ware mostly while I was there. The balance block game in wario ware was addicting like crack. I played it once and then had to play all 50 levels without stopping. I spent about 20-25 minutes on just level 50. Bowling is my favorite of the wii sports. Wii play has air hockey and ping pong (both incredibly addictive) as well as others that were not quite as cool to me.

Overall, the wii rocks. I LOVED making a Mii for myself. I hadn't even heard about that option and it's crazy how much you can make them look like you! All my friends had Miis that all looked just like them. It took me a good 20-30 minutes to get it just right.

Can't wait to get my own...now I just have yet to find one on the shelf!
QrafTee
Satori wrote:
Satori wrote:
So I can't wait to finally get to play the Wii. I'm going to visit my friends in my hometown this week and two of them have Wiis. I've been wanting one since before they came out and just haven't had any luck in finding one. I refuse to pay anything over retail for one, so I just have to hope I stumble upon one whenever I go to Target or Best Buy or whatever.

So it seems to me that the Wii is definitely the best of the consoles. I haven't played any of the next gen consoles, but it just seems to me like the Wii is just far beyond the 360 or the PS3. Not necessarily in terms of hardware or graphics, but in overall enjoyability. It seems to reach a much broader audience then the other consoles, in a similar fashion as the DS has done for handhelds.

I myself have always loved Nintendo (never owned any system but Nintendo and have owned them all except the Wii and a few of the handhelds.) In the past, I've felt I had to defend them against attacks from Sony and Microsoft lovers, but now I don't feel like I have to.

So anyone have any favorite games for the Wii? I'm excited for the sports and Wario Ware, as well as Zelda of course. Any others I should watch out for?


So I played wii sports, wii play, and wario ware mostly while I was there. The balance block game in wario ware was addicting like crack. I played it once and then had to play all 50 levels without stopping. I spent about 20-25 minutes on just level 50. Bowling is my favorite of the wii sports. Wii play has air hockey and ping pong (both incredibly addictive) as well as others that were not quite as cool to me.

Overall, the wii rocks. I LOVED making a Mii for myself. I hadn't even heard about that option and it's crazy how much you can make them look like you! All my friends had Miis that all looked just like them. It took me a good 20-30 minutes to get it just right.

Can't wait to get my own...now I just have yet to find one on the shelf!

I still say the Nintendo should send updates to the Mii software... But it might be hard because they put so little flash memory inside the Wii... *sigh*
Seiji
Well I finally bought Zelda: TP. I'm probably the only one who owns a Wii that hasn't played it. I haven't started it yet since I'm busy with other things.
Whong
Seiji wrote:
Well I finally bought Zelda: TP. I'm probably the only one who owns a Wii that hasn't played it. I haven't started it yet since I'm busy with other things.



Well I've already started playing and have played quite a bit of Zelda Twilight Princess, but haven't been able to play for a while because my studies take sooooooooooooooooo much time. Sad
Well there will come days when I can just play peacefully without worrying about studies! Very Happy
Seiji
^I was able to play a little bit of it today. Its fun so far first game I've ever played where you can ride on a horse. Last Zelda I played was the one that was on the Gameboy Advanced.
enygmasoft
Seiji wrote:
^I was able to play a little bit of it today. Its fun so far first game I've ever played where you can ride on a horse. Last Zelda I played was the one that was on the Gameboy Advanced.


WII rules, Car driving is now more than a thumb workout. Still need to play wII sports
Whong
enygmasoft wrote:
Seiji wrote:
^I was able to play a little bit of it today. Its fun so far first game I've ever played where you can ride on a horse. Last Zelda I played was the one that was on the Gameboy Advanced.


WII rules, Car driving is now more than a thumb workout. Still need to play wII sports


Wii Sports is just great! It is a really nice game with so many different things. Tennis is really fun! Very Happy
Seiji
Has anyone been successful connecting with Batel WifiMax Dongle. I bought it today for $40 and couldn't get it to work. After searching for awhile on the internet I saw lots of bad reviews.
Whong
Has any date been given for the release of Super Mario Galaxy?

I hope it would come soon, it looks very interesting! Wink
falco211
^^^Mario Galaxy hasn't been given a date yet ^^^

I can't wait for Super Paper Mario to come out. It looks absolutely amazing! It's the only game for Wii that I'm looking forward to the next three months. I think Nintendos 4th Quarter will be the best because that is when a lot of the good games come out and it's during the holidays when people start buying.
wombatrpgs
Seiji wrote:
Well I finally bought Zelda: TP. I'm probably the only one who owns a Wii that hasn't played it. I haven't started it yet since I'm busy with other things.


I made it to the sixth dungeon and became very bored with that game, I still haven't beaten it. It appears to me to be very overrated, mainly due to how incredibly easy and straight forward it is. I can't say I've died yet, but it has become very dull. I felt like doing a few of the 'sidequests' only to find most either involved running around a field for hours looking for bugs or were very short and uninteresting. I'll finish later; there are much better things to do.
Seiji
^I'm still at the beginning of the game and nothing yet has motivated me to play it. I'll keep playing anyway and just hope it gets better as I go along. I never finished the last Zelda game I had so I want to be able to finish this one at least.
QrafTee
Seiji wrote:
^I'm still at the beginning of the game and nothing yet has motivated me to play it. I'll keep playing anyway and just hope it gets better as I go along. I never finished the last Zelda game I had so I want to be able to finish this one at least.

I heard the beginning of the game is extremely slow so just bear with it.
NarcoticGetz
I've had my wii since Christmas along with red steel, exite truck, and LoZ TP, i enjoyed exite truck alot, the wiimote plays well for driving games, red steel ..... i haven't liked it mainly because the controls are wonky and its a tad dull. LoZ TP i enjoyed fully i haven't beatin it yet but i do like how it has alot of old school play from OoT and many references to it ingame. I have not been disappointed with it, and those idiots who complain about the strap .... DON'T LET GO OF THE WIIMOTE WHEN YA SWING DUMB ASS!!!!!!!!! now that, that is outta the way. I want to talk about Sonic and the Secret Rings, and the sonic franchise all in one. Ever since SA2 for the DC the series has kind of gone down hill, this sonic game brings back what the sonic games are about, Speed and Strategy. The different characters from the sonic series make cameos as the characters of the Arabian nights tales. I havent gotten very far but its been fun so far :3
wombatrpgs
QrafTee wrote:

I heard the beginning of the game is extremely slow so just bear with it.


I thought the beginning few dungeons were the best, personally... The designers weren't trying to pull something that felt fake...
Whong
wombatrpgs wrote:
QrafTee wrote:

I heard the beginning of the game is extremely slow so just bear with it.


I thought the beginning few dungeons were the best, personally... The designers weren't trying to pull something that felt fake...


In my opinion the beginning is a bit slow, but it's ok. It's a great game! Wink
Satori
So is there anyone on here that's been complaining about their wii? IF so, I'll buy it from you Smile

Can't find one of those things anywhere on a shelf! And I refuse to pay more than $250 for a new one.

Guess I'll just have to wait it out!
Senshida
Satori wrote:
So is there anyone on here that's been complaining about their wii? IF so, I'll buy it from you Smile

Can't find one of those things anywhere on a shelf! And I refuse to pay more than $250 for a new one.

Guess I'll just have to wait it out!

You are more than likely to have to wait it out then... (most likely until May..)
People are going crazy over it. xD
Seiji
Satori wrote:
So is there anyone on here that's been complaining about their wii? IF so, I'll buy it from you Smile

Can't find one of those things anywhere on a shelf! And I refuse to pay more than $250 for a new one.

Guess I'll just have to wait it out!


Use wiihunt to locate on. Its a Target retail store tracker and shows if they have them or not. If you call up the store and a employee tells you no and the tracker shows them in stock go anyway because its 90% chance they have them.
Warlord
i want to sell my wii i need the money how much would i get if i took it into say gamestation do anyone know?
gutbomb
u guys are pretty lucky...here wii hasn`t come as of yet in teh markets... have to bear wit teh`other ol` consoles Razz

BTW teh reviews weren`t that gr8 fer wii it seems ??
Fire Boar
gutbomb wrote:
u guys are pretty lucky...here wii hasn`t come as of yet in teh markets... have to bear wit teh`other ol` consoles Razz

BTW teh reviews weren`t that gr8 fer wii it seems ??


Translation: You guys are pretty lucky... here the Wii hasn't come out yet in the markets... I'll have to make do with the other old consoles.

By the way, it seems that the reviews for the Wii weren't that great. Any idea why?


As for Warlord, if you've got a Wii you have one of two things. If you enjoy playing great games you have the perfect console with huge potential. If not, you have a great console that plenty of people will pay the full retail price for second-hand. Your best bet is somewhere like eBay if you really want to sell it.

Selling could well be a grave mistake, though.
gutbomb
hmmm.. whats with the transalation and all ??

was that post soo not understandable ??
Bofia
anyone planning to get mario party? i know i am
Seiji
Anyone find the sensor-bar annoying? Is it best to put it above or below the tv?
QrafTee
Seiji wrote:
Anyone find the sensor-bar annoying? Is it best to put it above or below the tv?

If you want you can just use a candle... but it's more dangerous.
wombatrpgs
Just got Wario Ware: Smooth Moves. Now THAT'S what the Wii was meant to be like! I used to value the Wario Land series more, (pre-IV,) but this seems to be the only game I've seen so far to really take advantage of the uniquity of the Wii. The series, unlike many others, is really designed for a console like this. Great job.
enygmasoft
Whong wrote:
Has any date been given for the release of Super Mario Galaxy?

I hope it would come soon, it looks very interesting! Wink


Unfortunately, we are left in the dark. Gamestop still does not take reservations on this game yet. I went into get that game reserved, and they dont have sku info yet, as of Monday last week. I ended up with Spider Man 3, money well spent and the wii control will be interesting.
enygmasoft
Warlord wrote:
i want to sell my wii i need the money how much would i get if i took it into say gamestation do anyone know?


Most places I try this at typically give you store credit.
try ebay.
Seiji
There is news that the first online game will be Pokemon. I guess that will be sort of fun since Pokemon was pretty fun on the GBA.
Loghete
Seiji wrote:
There is news that the first online game will be Pokemon. I guess that will be sort of fun since Pokemon was pretty fun on the GBA.


Yeah, I heard. I wont be getting that, I'll wait for SSBB or Battalion Wars II instead.

BTW, I almost regret I bought Wario Ware Inc, it got boring pretty quick. It was kinda too short. Right now I haven't got money for any new games..
odin
I like the nintendo wii but the features with the new controller seem a bit gimmikie. But it sure seems like a great load of fun to play, even though a new control scheme has been put in.
Jakob [JaWGames]
I got my hands on a Wii with Twilight Princess some days ago and I must say that it is even better than I predicted. Most of the wii sports games are very entertaining and Zelda.. Yes it may be a bit slow in the beginning but I had nothing against it, it was a wonderful game all the way through Smile
darth_revan
One of my friends has Wii. He says that Raymans Raving Rabbids is a great game. He told me about it, and now i think that i HAVE TO buy Wii!

(Raymans Raving Rabbids has PC version too, i suppose. But Wiimote is always better than keyboard)
Seiji
I just picked up a Nintendo Wifi USB Connector for my Wii and I can't even get it to work. It feels like $30 went to waste on it.
wombatrpgs
Seiji wrote:
There is news that the first online game will be Pokemon. I guess that will be sort of fun since Pokemon was pretty fun on the GBA.


That's one of the games I think would really benefit from online capabilities. If anyone else here has used NetBattle at all, it really utilizes the best features of the game in a rapid style multiplayer. Strategy becomes much more prominent than it does in single player. The only downside I can see is that they may try to force single-player parties into online parties and strategy would die to overlevelling etc.


Apart from that SSBB is another online-needing game. That game would just be inclomplete without utilizing the WiFi for some sort of mulitplayer.
dark_guardian216
agreed. this function no doubt will force people to team up, and that may pose a problem. lets cross our fingers and hope that this wont happen

but how can nintendo utilise the wiis functions such that even the 'interactivity' aspect is inciorporated into all its games? it seems like a great waste of money and time if the feature is not fully made use of.

wii is almost seen as the underdog by some people in the console race. ps3 and xbox are most widely advertised, while the wiis advertisment is minimal. although ppl who have tested both wii and ps3 have said that the wii was better. the interactivity is a main selling point, and against the playstation's multi-use feature and the xbox's , i dunno, xboxlive features, the wii stands a very good chance.

the wiis new technology is almost ground-breaking, as more and more people are looking for more bang for their buck. it allows a myraid of possibilites. its like the special arcade additions, like a gun you could get lets say you bought time crisis on you ps2. unfortunately, for me those didnt work half the time. i have not yet got to test the wii, and do not know the connectivity strengh, but it is very promising, all in one controller.
QrafTee
The connectivity strength is good. There are moments that the Wii Remote will not respond, but that's usually during navigation of the channels which gives you time to reconnect the remote to the console. Still a shame Nintendo did not use a rechargeable battery with USB charging qualities though.
Seiji
I agree that SSB needs to be another online game. I'm hoping since Pokemon will be released in June that by that time they can have games like Madden online too. Super Mario Galaxy is supposedly coming out soon and will probably be the best game on the Wii and the best game this decade. So Wii owners have a lot to look forward to this year.
QrafTee
Seiji wrote:
I agree that SSB needs to be another online game. I'm hoping since Pokemon will be released in June that by that time they can have games like Madden online too. Super Mario Galaxy is supposedly coming out soon and will probably be the best game on the Wii and the best game this decade. So Wii owners have a lot to look forward to this year.

Yeah... both of those hit games have no release dates with rumors saying Galaxy will be released 4th Quarter '07 or later and SSBB being released after Galaxy... Yipes...
Seiji
At least they will be out this year. Miyamoto said that Galaxy will available for play this year. That says enough for me. It takes him a long time to make games because he is somewhat of a perfectionist that is probably why the previous games were so good.
QrafTee
So now with "Mario & Sonic at the Olympics" Sonic is probably a shoe-in for Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Now that'd be interesting, Solid Snake and Sonic the Hedgehog... Perhaps they should be able to fuse into a new character too, Sonic Snake, oh yeah... my imagination's running wild now.
acellama88
I heard that the Nintendo Wii's aren't shipping right now. I don't know if it is true or not but that is what I heard. I hope they begin to ship them soon so I can get one to play.
QrafTee
acellama88 wrote:
I heard that the Nintendo Wii's aren't shipping right now. I don't know if it is true or not but that is what I heard. I hope they begin to ship them soon so I can get one to play.

Rumors that Nintendo is purposely not shipping Wiis are false. They're even looking for another manufacturing partner to get more Wiis out to the public.
wombatrpgs
QrafTee wrote:
So now with "Mario & Sonic at the Olympics" Sonic is probably a shoe-in for Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Now that'd be interesting, Solid Snake and Sonic the Hedgehog... Perhaps they should be able to fuse into a new character too, Sonic Snake, oh yeah... my imagination's running wild now.


I'm not sure that the arrival of 3rd party characters signals that Sonic will be included. If that was already decided at the time of the trailer, (as 3rd party characters must have been at that time), then Sonic would've been the most obvious pick to feature in the trailer, not Snake. Or perhaps that just hadn't been settled yet. But I would say that it does look promising...
Seiji
acellama88 wrote:
I heard that the Nintendo Wii's aren't shipping right now. I don't know if it is true or not but that is what I heard. I hope they begin to ship them soon so I can get one to play.


You should track retail stores online to get one. I used http://wiihunt.com it tracks Target and Circuit City. Target gets random shipments and put them on the shelves immediately and sometimes they get scheduled shipments and sell them on Sunday same with Circuit City. Its best not to even call them cause when I called Target said they were sold out. I went to the store anyway and there were 2 left so I grabbed mine.
QrafTee
wombatrpgs wrote:
QrafTee wrote:
So now with "Mario & Sonic at the Olympics" Sonic is probably a shoe-in for Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Now that'd be interesting, Solid Snake and Sonic the Hedgehog... Perhaps they should be able to fuse into a new character too, Sonic Snake, oh yeah... my imagination's running wild now.


I'm not sure that the arrival of 3rd party characters signals that Sonic will be included. If that was already decided at the time of the trailer, (as 3rd party characters must have been at that time), then Sonic would've been the most obvious pick to feature in the trailer, not Snake. Or perhaps that just hadn't been settled yet. But I would say that it does look promising...

I never said it was decided THAT early. Anyway as well all know the creator of MGS approached the creator of SSB before Super Smash Bros. Melee was released. That would mean it would take priority before Sega's little blue hedgehog (which I should add now has surgery to make him taller). But I was just saying that Mario & Sonic at the Olympics would make Sonic a shoe-in for the second position of third-party characters in SSBB since they said they'd have 2-3 third-party characters in the latest installment of the SSB series.
enygmasoft
QrafTee wrote:
wombatrpgs wrote:
QrafTee wrote:
So now with "Mario & Sonic at the Olympics" Sonic is probably a shoe-in for Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Now that'd be interesting, Solid Snake and Sonic the Hedgehog... Perhaps they should be able to fuse into a new character too, Sonic Snake, oh yeah... my imagination's running wild now.


I'm not sure that the arrival of 3rd party characters signals that Sonic will be included. If that was already decided at the time of the trailer, (as 3rd party characters must have been at that time), then Sonic would've been the most obvious pick to feature in the trailer, not Snake. Or perhaps that just hadn't been settled yet. But I would say that it does look promising...

I never said it was decided THAT early. Anyway as well all know the creator of MGS approached the creator of SSB before Super Smash Bros. Melee was released. That would mean it would take priority before Sega's little blue hedgehog (which I should add now has surgery to make him taller). But I was just saying that Mario & Sonic at the Olympics would make Sonic a shoe-in for the second position of third-party characters in SSBB since they said they'd have 2-3 third-party characters in the latest installment of the SSB series.


we need Metal gear on the WII
Whong
enygmasoft wrote:
QrafTee wrote:
wombatrpgs wrote:
QrafTee wrote:
So now with "Mario & Sonic at the Olympics" Sonic is probably a shoe-in for Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Now that'd be interesting, Solid Snake and Sonic the Hedgehog... Perhaps they should be able to fuse into a new character too, Sonic Snake, oh yeah... my imagination's running wild now.


I'm not sure that the arrival of 3rd party characters signals that Sonic will be included. If that was already decided at the time of the trailer, (as 3rd party characters must have been at that time), then Sonic would've been the most obvious pick to feature in the trailer, not Snake. Or perhaps that just hadn't been settled yet. But I would say that it does look promising...

I never said it was decided THAT early. Anyway as well all know the creator of MGS approached the creator of SSB before Super Smash Bros. Melee was released. That would mean it would take priority before Sega's little blue hedgehog (which I should add now has surgery to make him taller). But I was just saying that Mario & Sonic at the Olympics would make Sonic a shoe-in for the second position of third-party characters in SSBB since they said they'd have 2-3 third-party characters in the latest installment of the SSB series.


we need Metal gear on the WII


Maybe, maybe not. Of course it would be a great thing for many people! Wink
Heart Ticket
is even worth getting??? im considering it because i love nintendo's for there wide range of game genres (like puzzles and board games...ect) so if its worth getting let me know please Smile?

James
Seiji
^Its definitely worth getting. Looks like online play will be solid by next year so Wii owners have a lot to look forward. Not to mention that Super Mario Galaxy will probably be the best game this year. Most of the Wii games right now are fun puzzle games so you would enjoy it.
wombatrpgs
Heart Ticket wrote:
is even worth getting??? im considering it because i love nintendo's for there wide range of game genres (like puzzles and board games...ect) so if its worth getting let me know please Smile?

James


I'd wait, really. Right now the only real needgame for the Wii is Twilight Princess, although Wario Ware and Red Steel are pretty nice. And Twilight Princess isn't exclusive to the Wii. I think the really good games for the Wii are yet to come out, as Super Mario Galaxy isn't nearly there yet, but Super Smash Brothers Brawl will almost certainly be amazing. But by 2008 the Wii will havesome very nice games.
BHSDKP
Personally, I don't regret getting the Wii.

It provides a fun way to stay active (assuming you're not sitting down while playing games such as wii sports). The Wii also has a wide range of games, from role-playing to puzzle, and even family oriented multiplayer games.

This platform may not be for the hardcore gamers out there, however what the Wii lacks in graphics and performance, it makes up with gameplay and versatility. With games such as Zelda and Super Smash Brothers, the Wii definately stands up to the PS3 and 360.
willy101
Of course there are a ways to cheat the Wii seemingly innate workout by using small, controlled movements.

Is anyone else bothered that Nintendo chose not to have a universal friend list for all the games?
wombatrpgs
BHSDKP wrote:
Personally, I don't regret getting the Wii.

It provides a fun way to stay active (assuming you're not sitting down while playing games such as wii sports). The Wii also has a wide range of games, from role-playing to puzzle, and even family oriented multiplayer games.

This platform may not be for the hardcore gamers out there, however what the Wii lacks in graphics and performance, it makes up with gameplay and versatility. With games such as Zelda and Super Smash Brothers, the Wii definately stands up to the PS3 and 360.


I definitely don't regret getting a Wii either, but if you're deliberating about it, my point was that right now there aren't many games released for it. Once Brawl comes out, it'll be a must-have, but I still personally enjoy it now.
enygmasoft
Seiji wrote:
I just picked up a Nintendo Wifi USB Connector for my Wii and I can't even get it to work. It feels like $30 went to waste on it.


why would nintendo start using usb contrals, when the hole system is designed for wireless controls
schooldays
I finally got the Wii after a long wait, along with Twilight Princess and WarioWare. It is a superb console, really. WarioWare is unbelievably short (I went through it in a few hours), but great, and Twilight Princess is a masterpiece so far. I love Wii Sports.
wombatrpgs
The replayability of WarioWare I think makes it... But ia gree its short. However, its the most creative game wit hteh controller I;ve seen so far.
enygmasoft
dark_guardian216 wrote:
agreed. this function no doubt will force people to team up, and that may pose a problem. lets cross our fingers and hope that this wont happen

but how can nintendo utilise the wiis functions such that even the 'interactivity' aspect is inciorporated into all its games? it seems like a great waste of money and time if the feature is not fully made use of.

wii is almost seen as the underdog by some people in the console race. ps3 and xbox are most widely advertised, while the wiis advertisment is minimal. although ppl who have tested both wii and ps3 have said that the wii was better. the interactivity is a main selling point, and against the playstation's multi-use feature and the xbox's , i dunno, xboxlive features, the wii stands a very good chance.

the wiis new technology is almost ground-breaking, as more and more people are looking for more bang for their buck. it allows a myraid of possibilites. its like the special arcade additions, like a gun you could get lets say you bought time crisis on you ps2. unfortunately, for me those didnt work half the time. i have not yet got to test the wii, and do not know the connectivity strengh, but it is very promising, all in one controller.


Very nice toy, but yeap. im amazed at the amount of technology thats in there.
Ghengis
Re: the USB Wifi Connector -- don't bother, buy a proper router. You can get one cheaper than the Wifi adapter and it will do you a whole lot more good.

Re: games -- stop reading this post, run out and buy Super Paper Mario. Go ahead, I'll wait...


OK, back? Now, play that for the next ~40 hours. There, your Wii is useful again Wink
Seiji
Well I finally found the trick to get the USB thing to work. I should have bought a router then I wouldn't have had so many problems. At least I was able to download the opera browser before it was 500 points. The USB works fine now though and doesn't really give me trouble anymore.
Whong
Seiji wrote:
Well I finally found the trick to get the USB thing to work. I should have bought a router then I wouldn't have had so many problems. At least I was able to download the opera browser before it was 500 points. The USB works fine now though and doesn't really give me trouble anymore.


How much does the stuff on the Wii Shop chanel cost?
QrafTee
Whong wrote:
Seiji wrote:
Well I finally found the trick to get the USB thing to work. I should have bought a router then I wouldn't have had so many problems. At least I was able to download the opera browser before it was 500 points. The USB works fine now though and doesn't really give me trouble anymore.


How much does the stuff on the Wii Shop chanel cost?

I believe 0-1000 points... to Free to $10.00.
Ghengis
Whong wrote:
How much does the stuff on the Wii Shop chanel cost?


1 point = 1 cent US

NES games are 500
TG16 are 600
SNES/Genesis are 800
N64 are 1000

There's more details on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Console
headie
My only thing with the Wii is the low amount of games announced that will use the internet. I love the controls and how they've been used in the games, but they kinda made a big deal about the wireless internet. I've only heard of one announced game that will use the internet, and that's the Pokemon game comming out next year. I really hope they say that Super Smash Bros. Brawl will use the internet, since that's probably the best type of game to have internet for.
Whong
headie wrote:
My only thing with the Wii is the low amount of games announced that will use the internet. I love the controls and how they've been used in the games, but they kinda made a big deal about the wireless internet. I've only heard of one announced game that will use the internet, and that's the Pokemon game comming out next year. I really hope they say that Super Smash Bros. Brawl will use the internet, since that's probably the best type of game to have internet for.


I think I've heard something about Smash Bros Brawl having internet connectivity, but I'm not really sure about it. I hope so too! Very Happy
QrafTee
Super Smash Bros. Brawl is only at the "may have" stage in regards to multiplayer via internet. Mario Football Strikers (or whatever the name is), however, will have multiplayer via internet. A third-party has also confirmed a game with multiplayer via internet, but I forget which company it was and what game it was pertaining too...
Fire Boar
Mario Strikers Football looks pretty good... but I'm personally going to wait for Smash Bros. Brawl for Wi-Fi (I'll still get it, even if it doesn't have Wi-Fi!). It's looking to be an absolute corker of a game, taking the original formula and giving it a huge sprucing up.

Great stuff, for sure.
Loghete
Super Smash Brothers Brawl, Battalion Wars 2 and a the Pokemon game are all confirmed to have online functions..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_Wii_Wi-Fi_games
Ghengis
Am I the only one worried that Nintendo will be as over-protective with the Wii as they are with the DS? I don't have a bunch of RL friends with Wiis, so I'd like to see a lobby/quickmatch system so I can play with strangers easily. Xbox lets me do this, but I fear Wii will not...
wombatrpgs
Loghete wrote:
Super Smash Brothers Brawl, Battalion Wars 2 and a the Pokemon game are all confirmed to have online functions..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_Wii_Wi-Fi_games


By confirmed to have online functions, are you sure that includes versus online? It could be some entertainingly useless feature such as Wii Plaza or such.

Also looking at that list I see Fire Emblem Wii 2, which I think could also use the feature of versus. If you've ever played Fire Emblem, I think that game needs some alternative to its AI as it has one of the most powerful tactical systems I've ever seen. I hope Goddess of Dawn is released in America soon...
headie
Ok, so Brawl is a maybe. Did anyone hear that the new Katamari game might not go to the Wii? Apparently the control's will be too difficult for the programmers. Which is weird, since you can easily turn the remote fowards and backwards, side to side, and things like that. If anything, the Wii would be the perfect console for that type of game...
Seiji
I hear the new Katamari game will be on the Xbox360 and PS3 no news about it being on the Wii yet. Right now I'm also disappointed with the lack of online games for the Wii. Right now there is none and supposedly Pokemon will be online but I'm hearing things about it being friend-based. I think I was too ahead of myself thinking that Madden '08 and a whole bunch of other games would be online. Since I'm a huge Nintendo fan I got the Wii but I guess if I really want online play I need to get a Xbox360 or a PS3. Since there will probably be low chances of Wii games being online. The Wii is more of the younger audience so I hear that they don't want kids to be playing with strangers so I guess thats probably the reason for the lack of online games.
wombatrpgs
The only problem with assuming that they're trying to protect their audiences is that there doesn't seem to be any method of communication available. What can a malicious person PokeBattling a nine year old possibly do? Ís it even possible to chat through that sort of thing? Even so, the Wii has parental controls that can be set, why not just have the games reference them and determine the allowability of communication? If Brawl is friends-based, then it almost defeats the point. The problem with Melee was too few multiplayer battles. If I have to wait two hours for one of the three people I know who have a Wii to come on, its really not worth it.
headie
wombatrpgs wrote:
The only problem with assuming that they're trying to protect their audiences is that there doesn't seem to be any method of communication available. What can a malicious person PokeBattling a nine year old possibly do? Ís it even possible to chat through that sort of thing? Even so, the Wii has parental controls that can be set, why not just have the games reference them and determine the allowability of communication? If Brawl is friends-based, then it almost defeats the point. The problem with Melee was too few multiplayer battles. If I have to wait two hours for one of the three people I know who have a Wii to come on, its really not worth it.


I agree. Plus Nintendo said that the Wii was targeted at all audiences, from children to seniors. So protecting the little kids by limiting communication for all isn't that smart.
Seiji
We'll just have to see what they do when they release Pokemon. I hear it is already online and available in Japan but I'm not sure if it is friend-based or lobby-based.
LostOverThere
Well at 9 Years of age, Parents probably should be watching their kids play online games. Smile
EricBelt
Specifications mean nothing if it isn't fun to play. That's why Wii's can't stay on store shelves and you can easily get a PS3.
kevin briggs
people need to give the Wii a chance. yes the graphics are not on par with ps3 and x360 but it was designed not to be. i consider it an alternative console, one i can feel very active playing.

sure i like my x360 but at times i want a more immersive feeling that i get from the Wii. If you wait a year or so new and better games will come out for it.
Seiji
Perhaps that should only release T+ games online. Of course kids will play Pokemon so Nintendo should know better.
Whong
kevin briggs wrote:
people need to give the Wii a chance. yes the graphics are not on par with ps3 and x360 but it was designed not to be. i consider it an alternative console, one i can feel very active playing.

sure i like my x360 but at times i want a more immersive feeling that i get from the Wii. If you wait a year or so new and better games will come out for it.


Yes and I think it is nice that different consoles have a little different specialities. Wink
Loghete
Yeah, the only bad thing about the Wii is the Wii Friend Code system.
Senshida
Ghengis wrote:
Am I the only one worried that Nintendo will be as over-protective with the Wii as they are with the DS? I don't have a bunch of RL friends with Wiis, so I'd like to see a lobby/quickmatch system so I can play with strangers easily. Xbox lets me do this, but I fear Wii will not...


The Wii online multiplayer network is by GameSpy, so you will probably have that. Smile
wombatrpgs
Senshida wrote:
Ghengis wrote:
Am I the only one worried that Nintendo will be as over-protective with the Wii as they are with the DS? I don't have a bunch of RL friends with Wiis, so I'd like to see a lobby/quickmatch system so I can play with strangers easily. Xbox lets me do this, but I fear Wii will not...


The Wii online multiplayer network is by GameSpy, so you will probably have that. Smile


I don't know GameSpy real well... What have they done in the past? What entities are behind things like Xbox Live?
LostOverThere
Quote:
Yeah, the only bad thing about the Wii is the Wii Friend Code system.



Actually I'd say there's something wrong with every Next Generation Console Friend System.

Just check out this amusing comic by Cubetoons located Here
wombatrpgs
LostOverThere wrote:
Quote:
Yeah, the only bad thing about the Wii is the Wii Friend Code system.



Actually I'd say there's something wrong with every Next Generation Console Friend System.

Just check out this amusing comic by Cubetoons located Here


Although if you really look at the first frame I think you can live with the Microsoft smiling trees. That really isn't so bad. For the last generation, Xbox Live certainly beat out what little competetion it got...
Seiji
I guess if people really wanted online play they would have a gotten a 360. I think the Friend Code System will be a good thing. I'm just happy there isn't much time left until the first online game is released.
enygmasoft
headie wrote:
My only thing with the Wii is the low amount of games announced that will use the internet. I love the controls and how they've been used in the games, but they kinda made a big deal about the wireless internet. I've only heard of one announced game that will use the internet, and that's the Pokemon game comming out next year. I really hope they say that Super Smash Bros. Brawl will use the internet, since that's probably the best type of game to have internet for.


POKEmon multiplayer is very promising technologidal app
QrafTee
enygmasoft wrote:
headie wrote:
My only thing with the Wii is the low amount of games announced that will use the internet. I love the controls and how they've been used in the games, but they kinda made a big deal about the wireless internet. I've only heard of one announced game that will use the internet, and that's the Pokemon game comming out next year. I really hope they say that Super Smash Bros. Brawl will use the internet, since that's probably the best type of game to have internet for.


POKEmon multiplayer is very promising technologidal app

Quote:
Super Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros., and Metroid Prime 3 all this year, says Nintendo President Satoru Iwata.

Score!
Whong
QrafTee wrote:
enygmasoft wrote:
headie wrote:
My only thing with the Wii is the low amount of games announced that will use the internet. I love the controls and how they've been used in the games, but they kinda made a big deal about the wireless internet. I've only heard of one announced game that will use the internet, and that's the Pokemon game comming out next year. I really hope they say that Super Smash Bros. Brawl will use the internet, since that's probably the best type of game to have internet for.


POKEmon multiplayer is very promising technologidal app

Quote:
Super Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros., and Metroid Prime 3 all this year, says Nintendo President Satoru Iwata.

Score!


Man! This is really great Pokemon Battle Revolution, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros Brawl, Metroid Prime 3 Corruption and many other great games coming out this year. Now that is just great! Very HappyVery HappyVery HappyVery Happy

Just can't wait, Super Mario Galaxy looks just gorgeous!
Seiji
I hear Metroid Prime 3 might be online. That would be pretty sweet if that game became online. I would expect much more Wii users to end up playing. I remember when Metroid Prime hit the Gamecube, I think it got more praise than Super Mario Sunshine.
mansonivan
Wii is awesome. i m saving money to get one. anyone know how much for it now?
bhzh
The Wii costs 250. Honestly though, just playing Wii Sports without online for 2 weeks straight is still fun. The online features are cool, especially the internet channel and the forecast channel. I just hope that Nintendo makes adding friends easier and more useful. Also, does anyone know if the Wii is still in short supply? I'm trying to find one for a friend of mine who lives in the DC area.
iNs@nE
mansonivan wrote:
Wii is awesome. i m saving money to get one. anyone know how much for it now?


Dont be stupid. Save money and go for the PS3.
wombatrpgs
iNs@nE wrote:
mansonivan wrote:
Wii is awesome. i m saving money to get one. anyone know how much for it now?


Dont be stupid. Save money and go for the PS3.


If it takes the saving of money to go for the Wii, with a moderate pricetag of $250 and a very nice default game with others available around $40, the PS3 would seem a little out of reach with almost triple pricing for a basic PS3 set...

And I somehow doubt that the suggestion will taken seriously on the Wii topic. Like people asking if they should buy the game featured on a Gamefaqs board... Oh well.
QrafTee
wombatrpgs wrote:
iNs@nE wrote:
mansonivan wrote:
Wii is awesome. i m saving money to get one. anyone know how much for it now?


Dont be stupid. Save money and go for the PS3.


If it takes the saving of money to go for the Wii, with a moderate pricetag of $250 and a very nice default game with others available around $40, the PS3 would seem a little out of reach with almost triple pricing for a basic PS3 set...

And I somehow doubt that the suggestion will taken seriously on the Wii topic. Like people asking if they should buy the game featured on a Gamefaqs board... Oh well.

Insane must be joking... I mean he has to be... unless he's really insane...
LostOverThere
iNs@nE wrote:
Dont be stupid. Save money and go for the PS3.


Wow, if you're going to bad mouth a console in that consoles thread. At least get some correct information to back it up. Not your (Lame) opinion.
Seiji
Right about now is the perfect time to get a Wii. Online game will be out June 25th so you don't have a long time to wait. Its not as hard to find one now either.
m-productions
I have to say, as of right now, the wii owns the ps3 (and unlike some people.. I have the right to say that I own both) I actually wanted a wii from the start... but weirdly enough (and this was 2 weeks before Christmas ) They had 2 ps3s and no Wiis.. so we were like hell, lets get us a ps3. And dont get me wrong, I love my ps3... resistance fall of man rocks...but as of right now...thats about all that rocks. Good games are to come.. but as of right now... nope


The wii has good games out right now, and is just so unique, I love it, heck, even my mom is playing the wii, and she hates games.
tekanubis
Arguing what's more powerful isn't important here either. What I care about are how good the games are. I don't hate Sony, Chrono Cross is the greatest game ever made in my opinion, but I do not care for any PS3 games. PS3 has potential for some great games, but TO ME has failed to show it. I also think the system itself does not look "cool" as stated above.

If you do care about the power the console has, why use consoles at all? Desktops are still in the lead when it comes to power despite popular belief that the consoles would beat them out this generation. Also, if you factor in size, and the PS3 is around 5 times the size. If the wii wanted a system that was 5 times bigger, then they would have made it that way and put in more powerful stuff.

Therefore, if you want power, use your pc and wait at least another generation for consoles, if you want great fun and great games go with the wii.
LostOverThere
Moving along. What's your opinion on Red Steel I love it but I know of lots of other people who hate it.
Futile
I liked Red Steel. It was one of the few games that I have played where my arms have actually gotten tired. But if you want a real "Damn my arms hurt game", try Spiderman 3. It gives a new defination to web slinging.
wombatrpgs
LostOverThere wrote:
Moving along. What's your opinion on Red Steel I love it but I know of lots of other people who hate it.


I've played it alot, although I don;t own it. It would seem to be the best thing the Wii has for a first-person shooter, and the basic point-to-aim is the real draw to the game, as teh swordplay is completely overrated. I still don't understand how this game and Twilight Princess managed to pass off vigorous shaking for swinging a sword. The Wii really needs a fencing game, or at least something like the seventh or something 'boss' minigame in WarioWare Smooth Moves that uses the direction of the controller to block.
Futile
wombatrpgs wrote:

I've played it alot, although I don;t own it. It would seem to be the best thing the Wii has for a first-person shooter, and the basic point-to-aim is the real draw to the game, as teh swordplay is completely overrated. I still don't understand how this game and Twilight Princess managed to pass off vigorous shaking for swinging a sword. The Wii really needs a fencing game, or at least something like the seventh or something 'boss' minigame in WarioWare Smooth Moves that uses the direction of the controller to block.


If you are looking for a FPS for the Wii Red Steel is not it in my opinion. Call of Duty and Far Cry are alot better. Wombat, I agree with you abot the swordplay, but you have to admit that it is funny as hell to see someone flailing around in total uncoordinated chaos and then look at the screen to see Link or the Prince of Persia pull off graceful, fluid combos one after another.
wombatrpgs
Futile wrote:
If you are looking for a FPS for the Wii Red Steel is not it in my opinion. Call of Duty and Far Cry are alot better. Wombat, I agree with you abot the swordplay, but you have to admit that it is funny as hell to see someone flailing around in total uncoordinated chaos and then look at the screen to see Link or the Prince of Persia pull off graceful, fluid combos one after another.


What would you recommend? I've heard Elebits recommended as a game that makes use of the controller, but that sounds a bit iffy, and can't really call that an FPS. Like I said, I don't think Red Steel is anything special, but that's why I don't own it.

And yeah, the rendering of player movements on screen is kind of funny. In Wii Sports Bowling my friend did a full bowling swing without releasing the button, walked up a flight of stairs, got a cookie, faced the complete opposite direction, and then repeated the follow-through and got a strike...
Futile
wombatrpgs wrote:


What would you recommend? I've heard Elebits recommended as a game that makes use of the controller, but that sounds a bit iffy, and can't really call that an FPS. Like I said, I don't think Red Steel is anything special, but that's why I don't own it.

And yeah, the rendering of player movements on screen is kind of funny. In Wii Sports Bowling my friend did a full bowling swing without releasing the button, walked up a flight of stairs, got a cookie, faced the complete opposite direction, and then repeated the follow-through and got a strike...



I don't own it but I rented it. Elebits is considered a FPS because you shoot more then you capture the little elebits but it is on the kiddie side for younger audiences. The best thing about it is that it is really a great demonstration of the Wii's sensor technology capabilities. The gun is like your grav gun in Half Life 2 so you can catch and grab almost anything in the environment. The puzzle solving involved in the levels is very addictive. It also has a level edit/building mode to create your own levels. The multiplayer is a horrible mess in my opinion, because only one player gets to control the camera view. Overall, it’s not a bad game. The play is easy and very addictive. It’s not a “true” FPS it’s more of a hybrid shooter.
headie
Elebits is...ok. I hate the tutorial though. I don't remember why, but I remember cursing myself while palying it for renting it... A better game would be Rayman. It has a FPS minigame where you get to shoot the rabbits!
xbcd
Whong wrote:
eLto wrote:
10 reasons why the PS3 beats all you nintendo fanboys:

1 Nvidia RSX GPU.
2 Cell CPU with 8 dual-cores
3 Bluetooth
4 Blu-Ray (54 GB storage space)
5 Hard drive
6 wireless controllers with motion sensibilty, ergonomically shaped
7 Memory slots for various types of media
8 Support for 7 controllers
9 Plays all sorts of media (mp3, wav, avi, mpg etc.)
10 It looks tons cooler

I know you people like nintendo, and don't get me wrong, so did I, until the N64 came out, still using cartridges. Zelda was GREAT, Goldeneye was GREAT, perfect dark was GREAT, and hell, even diddy kong racing was fun, but nintendo seems to always aim for children and new playing styles, whereas sony (and microsuck) aim for the mainstream masses of multimedia, and therefore get way better performing consoles.


Anyway, that's my opinion, and your opinions are yours. Nothing I can do about it.


But PS3 is just an upgrade from the PS2, but Wii is something totally different than Game Cube!

PS3 is more powerful, yes, but Wii will win the market, people will buy Wii but not PS3 that much!Very HappyVery HappyVery Happy
will??? did win the market
Loghete
headie wrote:
Elebits is...ok. I hate the tutorial though. I don't remember why, but I remember cursing myself while palying it for renting it... A better game would be Rayman. It has a FPS minigame where you get to shoot the rabbits!


I was considering getting RRR, but when I found out it consists of mini-games (just like Wii Sports, Wii Play and WarioWare, which were the only games I had and I was tired of mini-games) I lost interest and bought Zelda instead. =D
Whong
Loghete wrote:
headie wrote:
Elebits is...ok. I hate the tutorial though. I don't remember why, but I remember cursing myself while palying it for renting it... A better game would be Rayman. It has a FPS minigame where you get to shoot the rabbits!


I was considering getting RRR, but when I found out it consists of mini-games (just like Wii Sports, Wii Play and WarioWare, which were the only games I had and I was tired of mini-games) I lost interest and bought Zelda instead. =D


Good choice, Zelda is a really great game! It will not disapoint you! Wink
wombatrpgs
Loghete wrote:
headie wrote:
Elebits is...ok. I hate the tutorial though. I don't remember why, but I remember cursing myself while palying it for renting it... A better game would be Rayman. It has a FPS minigame where you get to shoot the rabbits!


I was considering getting RRR, but when I found out it consists of mini-games (just like Wii Sports, Wii Play and WarioWare, which were the only games I had and I was tired of mini-games) I lost interest and bought Zelda instead. =D


Although no Zelda is complete without minigames... Oh well. But I really didn't think Twilight Princess lived up to its hype. It just seemed a lot less... epic. I mean, it was nice to have a sort of OoT with better graphics and extras, but I thought it would be a bit more innovative. And a lot harder.
LostOverThere
Really, that's strange wombatrpgs, I've heard lots of Zelda fans calling it the best Zelda game ever. Rolling Eyes

Though, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
wombatrpgs
LostOverThere wrote:
Really, that's strange wombatrpgs, I've heard lots of Zelda fans calling it the best Zelda game ever. Rolling Eyes

Though, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.


It seems 'most' Zelda fans have never played the original and Adventures of Link. They might not have been the best games, but at the time, they were excellent. (Okay, maybe not AoL, but...) Ocarina of Time really set the standard for the series as far as the modern games go. The Orcacles were nice as they extended the Link's Awakening and the original's style, as well as added a good deal to it.
But with Ocarina setting the bar, Twilight Princess only met it. Its no 'better' than OoT just because of more graphics and much less playtime and difficulty. (Why do all videogames seem to be getting easier?) It tried to add the 'wolf,' like the Oracles added Cane of Somaria, Magnetic Gloves, etc... TP had no new items, it had the wolf to add. And the wolf just wasn't very fun for long.
Whong
wombatrpgs wrote:
LostOverThere wrote:
Really, that's strange wombatrpgs, I've heard lots of Zelda fans calling it the best Zelda game ever. Rolling Eyes

Though, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.


It seems 'most' Zelda fans have never played the original and Adventures of Link. They might not have been the best games, but at the time, they were excellent. (Okay, maybe not AoL, but...) Ocarina of Time really set the standard for the series as far as the modern games go. The Orcacles were nice as they extended the Link's Awakening and the original's style, as well as added a good deal to it.
But with Ocarina setting the bar, Twilight Princess only met it. Its no 'better' than OoT just because of more graphics and much less playtime and difficulty. (Why do all videogames seem to be getting easier?) It tried to add the 'wolf,' like the Oracles added Cane of Somaria, Magnetic Gloves, etc... TP had no new items, it had the wolf to add. And the wolf just wasn't very fun for long.


Ocarina of Time is a really great game! It really is marvelous! Wink
QrafTee
wombatrpgs wrote:
LostOverThere wrote:
Really, that's strange wombatrpgs, I've heard lots of Zelda fans calling it the best Zelda game ever. Rolling Eyes

Though, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.


It seems 'most' Zelda fans have never played the original and Adventures of Link. They might not have been the best games, but at the time, they were excellent. (Okay, maybe not AoL, but...) Ocarina of Time really set the standard for the series as far as the modern games go. The Orcacles were nice as they extended the Link's Awakening and the original's style, as well as added a good deal to it.
But with Ocarina setting the bar, Twilight Princess only met it. Its no 'better' than OoT just because of more graphics and much less playtime and difficulty. (Why do all videogames seem to be getting easier?) It tried to add the 'wolf,' like the Oracles added Cane of Somaria, Magnetic Gloves, etc... TP had no new items, it had the wolf to add. And the wolf just wasn't very fun for long.

I still think the best Zelda game is Zelda III: A Link to the Past.
Whong
QrafTee wrote:
wombatrpgs wrote:
LostOverThere wrote:
Really, that's strange wombatrpgs, I've heard lots of Zelda fans calling it the best Zelda game ever. Rolling Eyes

Though, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.


It seems 'most' Zelda fans have never played the original and Adventures of Link. They might not have been the best games, but at the time, they were excellent. (Okay, maybe not AoL, but...) Ocarina of Time really set the standard for the series as far as the modern games go. The Orcacles were nice as they extended the Link's Awakening and the original's style, as well as added a good deal to it.
But with Ocarina setting the bar, Twilight Princess only met it. Its no 'better' than OoT just because of more graphics and much less playtime and difficulty. (Why do all videogames seem to be getting easier?) It tried to add the 'wolf,' like the Oracles added Cane of Somaria, Magnetic Gloves, etc... TP had no new items, it had the wolf to add. And the wolf just wasn't very fun for long.

I still think the best Zelda game is Zelda III: A Link to the Past.


I've never finnished Ocarina of Time, but I'd say that Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess are the best Zelda games! Wink

Windwaker was great too! Very Happy
Seiji
I still haven't finished Twilight Princess. I haven't been motivated to play it and the game is becoming confusing with the wind-blowing bridges Laughing
BrookfieldPC
Does anyone have any information regarding online play...sort of like an Xbox Live system? Wasn't there talk about that down the line. I don't understand why they wouldn't put that in from the start...Just think - Wii Tennis with your friends over the i-net. That would be loads of fun. Mad
Loghete
BrookfieldPC wrote:
Does anyone have any information regarding online play...sort of like an Xbox Live system? Wasn't there talk about that down the line. I don't understand why they wouldn't put that in from the start...Just think - Wii Tennis with your friends over the i-net. That would be loads of fun. Mad


The only online game yet, except for a Pokemon game which has just been released in Japan, is Mario Strikers Charged. I would definitely get it if I had the money.
Though, in a close future more online games will pop up, like Battalion Wars II, Super Smash Bros Brawl, and lots more.
wombatrpgs
Does anyone know if Fire Emblem: Goddess of Dawn has any online features, and if so what they are? Or maybe that's FE11 that's in development I'm thinking about.... But any help would be appreciated.
elite747
eLto wrote:
10 reasons why the PS3 beats all you nintendo fanboys:

1 Nvidia RSX GPU.
2 Cell CPU with 8 dual-cores
3 Bluetooth
4 Blu-Ray (54 GB storage space)
5 Hard drive
6 wireless controllers with motion sensibilty, ergonomically shaped
7 Memory slots for various types of media
8 Support for 7 controllers
9 Plays all sorts of media (mp3, wav, avi, mpg etc.)
10 It looks tons cooler

I know you people like nintendo, and don't get me wrong, so did I, until the N64 came out, still using cartridges. Zelda was GREAT, Goldeneye was GREAT, perfect dark was GREAT, and hell, even diddy kong racing was fun, but nintendo seems to always aim for children and new playing styles, whereas sony (and microsuck) aim for the mainstream masses of multimedia, and therefore get way better performing consoles.


Anyway, that's my opinion, and your opinions are yours. Nothing I can do about it.


And now:

Ten reasons why PS3 sux!

1. Price (You could buy 2 Wii's for that price or get the 360 Elite with not 54 gb of storage, but 120gb!!!, and still have money left over.)
2. unoriginal
3. Bluray
4. Target customers are only extreme gamers, and not so much casual
5. Overpowered
6. Weight (About 11lbs)
7. Size
8. Only 256 mb of memory
9. You have to buy the expensive version to get the SD cards, and everything else stated above, and HDMI out.
10. This video explains the rest.

Nuff said.

Besides, Wii dominates all (even though I'm a pro MS person), and its the best selling, funnest, most family-friends oriented, all ages friendly, creative, etc.. game system I have ever seen! Get one if you haven't already! Its worth the $249.99.
Fire Boar
Zelda... there were things wrong with it, but it is still nonetheless a fun game.

Wrong:
- Lack of originality in items. The way you use them is innovative, but the actual items themselves are old (or classic, depending on your point of view). Stick with the old stuff, sure. But get some new ones as well Nintendo!
- Too easy! There should have been a hard mode option. That way, casual gamers and hardcore fans alike get a challenging and fun game.
- Too much Midna (wolf form). There were only about three places in the game when you can play as a wolf WITHOUT Midna riding your back. I think it would have been pretty cool if there were parts where her and Link are seperated. She makes wolf battles far too easy with her dark field attack.
- Not enough Midna (human form). Conversely, it would have been great if there were points where you could have Midna hanging about with Link as a human, instead of hiding in his shadow all the time. She's got all this cool dark magic - why can't she use it?
- Zant. He is... overly camp.

Right:
- Wolf! Very cool indeed. Nuff said. And the howling stones are awesome.
- Midna. Totally evil at the start - I just love her!
- Challenging puzzles. Yes, there were plenty of headscratchers.
- Everything else. (A lot.) There's too much to mention, so get the game and find out. Trust me, it's worth it.
Loghete
I also think Zelda is great, it's definitely the best Wii game out yet. Still.
I think the graphics are totally enough, the atmosphere is lovely. The music.... well, sometimes it's very good and fits the game, like in the events after the 1st temple, I thought it was so good I went mad every time an enemy came and made it change to the battle music.
Though, sometimes I think the music is a little lame. It could be better.

I agree with Fire Boar, it's a little too easy. Especially the bosses, I always shout of anger when they die. On most bosses I don't even die one single time.
Also, the puzzles are too easy. For puzzles to be hard enough, I've first got to try the puzzles for hours, get mad, exit the game, go make a milkshake, go back and try the puzzle again, try it for hours, get mad again and throw away the game in anger, go to sleep, make something up while trying to sleep, go up and continue playing, fall asleep while playing, wake up and finally you've got it, and you make it through the puzzle.
That's a hard enough puzzle.
The average Zelda puzzle takes me about 15 mins to solve.

There is one last thing that annoys me, the repetitive caves/dungeons/temples. I mean, in every one, you first get your way through a bit, to find a mini-boss, which drops an item. With this item you can make your way to the boss key, which can take you to the Big Boss. You slay the boss and come out, and you never need the weird item anymore.

Well, don't get scared by those negatives, overall Zelda is an awesome game. If you haven't got it, go get it.
Whong
Loghete wrote:
I also think Zelda is great, it's definitely the best Wii game out yet. Still.
I think the graphics are totally enough, the atmosphere is lovely. The music.... well, sometimes it's very good and fits the game, like in the events after the 1st temple, I thought it was so good I went mad every time an enemy came and made it change to the battle music.
Though, sometimes I think the music is a little lame. It could be better.

I agree with Fire Boar, it's a little too easy. Especially the bosses, I always shout of anger when they die. On most bosses I don't even die one single time.
Also, the puzzles are too easy. For puzzles to be hard enough, I've first got to try the puzzles for hours, get mad, exit the game, go make a milkshake, go back and try the puzzle again, try it for hours, get mad again and throw away the game in anger, go to sleep, make something up while trying to sleep, go up and continue playing, fall asleep while playing, wake up and finally you've got it, and you make it through the puzzle.
That's a hard enough puzzle.
The average Zelda puzzle takes me about 15 mins to solve.

There is one last thing that annoys me, the repetitive caves/dungeons/temples. I mean, in every one, you first get your way through a bit, to find a mini-boss, which drops an item. With this item you can make your way to the boss key, which can take you to the Big Boss. You slay the boss and come out, and you never need the weird item anymore.

Well, don't get scared by those negatives, overall Zelda is an awesome game. If you haven't got it, go get it.


Yes! I agree with you too, the game is fabulous and the graphics are nice and just enough.
The bosses are annoyingly easy compared to eg. Ocarina of Time or the Wind Waker.
The thing you said about the items is very true, it's irritating that the nice new item which you just got, is quite useless after the dungeon.
But never the less, Twilight Princess is a great game! Very Happy
dark_guardian216
One of the most eagerly anticipated games is Pokemon Diamond/Pearl

The same format has been used over and over and over again in these, games, Nintendo seem to have hit a winning formula. Catch them all, again and again, and defeat the evil team <insert name here> it happens all the time. I really dont see whats so good about it
Whong
dark_guardian216 wrote:
One of the most eagerly anticipated games is Pokemon Diamond/Pearl

The same format has been used over and over and over again in these, games, Nintendo seem to have hit a winning formula. Catch them all, again and again, and defeat the evil team <insert name here> it happens all the time. I really dont see whats so good about it


I've played quite many Pokemon games and I gotta tell you that it is just something in them that makes you want to play them more and more. I don't really know why, but that's just how it is... Wink
wombatrpgs
dark_guardian216 wrote:
One of the most eagerly anticipated games is Pokemon Diamond/Pearl

The same format has been used over and over and over again in these, games, Nintendo seem to have hit a winning formula. Catch them all, again and again, and defeat the evil team <insert name here> it happens all the time. I really dont see whats so good about it


The neat thing about the games is the style of RPG its in, mainly, that rather than having a set four characters or so that can take on many different roles, you have tons and tons of characters that are more limitted in their ability. And the unique battle style: You don't get to designate the next round of four characters, you control one at a time and switch out constantly. Makes for an interesting metagame.

About one-player plotline being extremely similar, that's true. A bit of new plot would be really nice once in a while, maybe some improvements in that area rather than hoardes of new pokemon? But the solution to this is really just focusing on the two-player aspects. And single-player gets boring anyway, making teams to do twoplayer. Which is waht NetBattle is for...
headie
The Pokemon games were great in the beginning! But once they added the other billion-and-a-half Pokemon, it seemed kinda... worthless. Had they kept the same Pokemon, or added a few new ones, and just made a new plot, just about everyone I know would still be playing them. After the first set of GBA games, it lost it's value, in my opinion.
dark_guardian216
Well indeed. The dreram of creating your very own team of uber-Pokemon and taking down the champions has it attractions, but how long will this take to get old? Despite many many different versions, spanning all the colors of the rainbow, the junkies still come back for more. Nintendo have really hit a goldmine in this game. Need more cash? Create more Pokemon! Then there will be a new version, a new region, new card games, new TV shows, new franchises, new merchandise, you name it, its there.

What is the mystery thing that keeps calling people back for more? Why their slogan, "Gotta catch them all!". A recent survey shows that most gamers are Completionists, meaning that they like to discover every secret, search every corner of a dungeon, or in this case, catch every Pokemon, or train to level 100. There are fewer Breeders amoung the players now, like me. I used to be a avid fan, watching all the shows and catching all the Pokemon. Now the game seems to have lost its shine.
wombatrpgs
headie wrote:
The Pokemon games were great in the beginning! But once they added the other billion-and-a-half Pokemon, it seemed kinda... worthless. Had they kept the same Pokemon, or added a few new ones, and just made a new plot, just about everyone I know would still be playing them. After the first set of GBA games, it lost it's value, in my opinion.


I lost interest after Crystal; last game I owned. It's the only game the gets around the inconveniences of the Red and Blue version while being reasonable as far as different game aspects go. Every other game has been slightly excessive.

But now my internal battery died... I really hate that generation of cartridges. I also wish I was a hardware person and not software so I could repair it!
Whong
lakitna wrote:
i want to buy a WII! if my mon doesnt talk crap: "yeah you already hava a gamecube! so i think it's wasting money!" Confused


Wii is really great especially since you can play GameCube games on it too!

Save up some money and get a Wii it's worth it! Very Happy
aznhomieboi1689
I love Wii! Smile I own one myself, can't stop playing...


I never really like the powerful consoles like XB360 and PS3...
Whong
aznhomieboi1689 wrote:
I love Wii! Smile I own one myself, can't stop playing...


I never really like the powerful consoles like XB360 and PS3...


Me neither, and though Wii isn't as powerful as XBOX360 or PS3 it still is more powerful than GameCube and I think Wii has great graphics though many of you who have played XBox 360 or PS3 might disagree with me. Wink
aznhomieboi1689
dark_guardian216 wrote:
One of the most eagerly anticipated games is Pokemon Diamond/Pearl

The same format has been used over and over and over again in these, games, Nintendo seem to have hit a winning formula. Catch them all, again and again, and defeat the evil team <insert name here> it happens all the time. I really dont see whats so good about it


Diamond and Pearl actually is different from all the others this time around. They really changed the story. Team Galactic is not really a "BAD" guy, they just team of people in a different propective wanting a better world with Pokemon.

It's really surprising to me that they can make up new Pokemon and story at the same time, I really enjoy the game. I am hoping to get the Piokemon Battle Revolution coming out for Wii.
dark_guardian216
aznhomieboi1689 wrote:

Team Galactic is not really a "BAD" guy, they just team of people in a different propective wanting a better world with Pokemon.



Doesnt that just mean that they want the different perspective of a world ruled by them? and dont say they arent troublemakers. you have to chase one around one intstitute, and you do fight them.

Im also glad that they bother to keep most of the old pokemon, some of which they dont bother to in the previous games. some were dearly missed in the Ruby/Sapphire version.

Some of the new pokemon seem as if they were made in a great hurry, with some crazy ideas involved, compared to the simplicity of the first series of games, like yellow, red, blue and in some cases, green.

No matter how polished the new ones look, the oldest Pokemon are always the best.
vonboy
i sorta liked how the new one used some different old pokemon.

they used more pokemon from the 2nd gen, which was my favorite gen(as far as the pokemon in that gen).

on thing i renly did not like is that they barly put any control touch screen controls for the pc box's. if they would have put the main screen on the bottum, and let you use the touch screen for all the minus and stuff on the pc, then it would have realy made dealing with hundreds of pokemon alot easier.

my real complaint is that they only let you use touch screen for some stuff, but not all.
Whong
dark_guardian216 wrote:

Some of the new pokemon seem as if they were made in a great hurry, with some crazy ideas involved, compared to the simplicity of the first series of games, like yellow, red, blue and in some cases, green.

No matter how polished the new ones look, the oldest Pokemon are always the best.


I fully agree! The new Pokemon seem some what odd, they don't look like pokemons compared with the 1st gen Pokemons. Take for example Tangela's second stage which is a 4th gen Pokemon, it looks totally weird... I mean just look at it is so strange!!! Idea http://serebii.net/pokedex-dp/465.shtml

You see what I mean?
I really liked the 1st gen the best!!!
lastelement0
hey i was considering the purchase of a wii in the coming months(most likely my birthday in september) and i was wondering if at any time in between if nintendo would be releasing different colors of the wii.

i have seen a bunch if fake ads about it but was wondering if it will come to life sometime soon.
runereference
i highly doubt that nintendo will want their wii's to be the same as apples ipods. I might be wrong but i think that they will stay with just the one wii color.

I do like the idea but i dont think it will happen....i mean imagine!!!wait a minute you might be right look at these pictures i found while writing this post
well darn there goes my oppinion in about 10 seconds lol
guess i better look around before giving an opion

Those black and red wiis look sweet!!! I would way rather have one of them than my boring white one. But begers cant be choosers when it comes to the wii because for most people it takes months too get.

I am very lucky though cause i got one on my second day of looking. My secret is to go look at superstore because you cant phone their electronics department so people dont think to go there. When we went there they had 3. Also costco gets large shipments cause i went there and they had like 36 of them(i counted). Anyway hope anyone who dosn't have one finds one!!!

And while im typing what games do you guys have that are good family games??? We already have the wii sports (DUHH) and might get brain academy!!! so what else is good??? Thanks
dark_guardian216
More deactiviation woes, gah. One day i must really go on a spammin... i mean contributing rampage.

anyway, chiming in, research reports have shown that the people playing the wii actually burn more energy on it than normal exercise. Of course theres minus the benefits of fresh air and other whatnot, but people have more motivation to continue playing the game, and thus exercising. thus, more people exercise more, more fitter people! what the heck, there may even be Wiis coming to a fitness center near you!

I, not owning one, but severely wishing that i did, must appreciate the great innovation present in the Wii. between the three consoles, the Wii is the underdog in the background, but i think it is most likely to win.
QrafTee
dark_guardian216 wrote:
More deactiviation woes, gah. One day i must really go on a spammin... i mean contributing rampage.

anyway, chiming in, research reports have shown that the people playing the wii actually burn more energy on it than normal exercise. Of course theres minus the benefits of fresh air and other whatnot, but people have more motivation to continue playing the game, and thus exercising. thus, more people exercise more, more fitter people! what the heck, there may even be Wiis coming to a fitness center near you!

I, not owning one, but severely wishing that i did, must appreciate the great innovation present in the Wii. between the three consoles, the Wii is the underdog in the background, but i think it is most likely to win.

Keep in mind that Wiis are being used in old folks homes and hospitals too. For old people it's recreational and for hospitals it's used to rehabilitate people.
Whong
QrafTee wrote:
dark_guardian216 wrote:
More deactiviation woes, gah. One day i must really go on a spammin... i mean contributing rampage.

anyway, chiming in, research reports have shown that the people playing the wii actually burn more energy on it than normal exercise. Of course theres minus the benefits of fresh air and other whatnot, but people have more motivation to continue playing the game, and thus exercising. thus, more people exercise more, more fitter people! what the heck, there may even be Wiis coming to a fitness center near you!

I, not owning one, but severely wishing that i did, must appreciate the great innovation present in the Wii. between the three consoles, the Wii is the underdog in the background, but i think it is most likely to win.

Keep in mind that Wiis are being used in old folks homes and hospitals too. For old people it's recreational and for hospitals it's used to rehabilitate people.


That's a good point, it's good to get the old folks to move a bit. That's good that Wii is doing something good for them too! Wink
wombatrpgs
runereference wrote:
And while im typing what games do you guys have that are good family games??? We already have the wii sports (DUHH) and might get brain academy!!! so what else is good??? Thanks


I thought Wario Ware was good for family play... Slightly immature for higher ages, but its really far too hilarious to get caught up in protesting it. Not to mention it never gets old in multiplayer, with 3 minigames and 4 different ways to play the microgames.

And where did you get the image? If its not released by Nintendo, its most likely 'artist's rendition'. But I did hear something about multiple skins.
Seiji
Just bought Pokemon Battle Revolution today and has to be the worst game I ever bought. So dissapointed that it turned out like that. I haven't tried it online yet but I doubt it will make any difference. After the first battle I was bored. I'm just mad that I wasted $50 on this game. Unless your a diehard pokemon fan or have a DS you shouldn't waste your money on it.
reddishblue
QrafTee wrote:
...For old people it's recreational and for hospitals it's used to rehabilitate people.

Yeah for the five old folks homes that actually have one.
Don't act like it's some huge thing for them, it isn't, they see it as a childrens toy, and really, the Wii is a childrens toy, don't act like the 1000 old folks who like the Wii are some new market demographic, they aren't, they are a minority, and a very small one at that.
They are a: Uber Minor Mini Monority.

It's a really lame thing you Wii fanboys/girls use to make it seem like a console for everyone, I have a Gamecube, and I like it because it has games for kids, and games for teens, none of this 'everyone' crap.
It's like my brothers old videos for babies having an age limit of 8, and it's a show made for 3 year olds.
Come on people, it's a gimmicky console, with games that have little depth and very little replayability.
Reddish
Whong
reddishblue wrote:
QrafTee wrote:
...For old people it's recreational and for hospitals it's used to rehabilitate people.

Yeah for the five old folks homes that actually have one.
Don't act like it's some huge thing for them, it isn't, they see it as a childrens toy, and really, the Wii is a childrens toy, don't act like the 1000 old folks who like the Wii are some new market demographic, they aren't, they are a minority, and a very small one at that.
They are a: Uber Minor Mini Monority.

It's a really lame thing you Wii fanboys/girls use to make it seem like a console for everyone, I have a Gamecube, and I like it because it has games for kids, and games for teens, none of this 'everyone' crap.
It's like my brothers old videos for babies having an age limit of 8, and it's a show made for 3 year olds.
Come on people, it's a gimmicky console, with games that have little depth and very little replayability.
Reddish


Wii was made for everyone, but it is we people who still act as if it were for kids. It isn't for just kids. Do you mean to tell me that only kids play Mario or Zelda. I doubt! Many adults are really into Mario and Zelda and so on and on. So don't give me that stuff that it's for kids. Is Zelda Twilight princess for kids? NO, it's for young people and up. Of course there are games like WarioWare which are fun for kids, but many older people like it too. So don't make those statements, they really annoy us!
reddishblue
Whong wrote:

Wii was made for everyone, but it is we people who still act as if it were for kids. It isn't for just kids. Do you mean to tell me that only kids play Mario or Zelda. I doubt! Many adults are really into Mario and Zelda and so on and on. So don't give me that stuff that it's for kids. Is Zelda Twilight princess for kids? NO, it's for young people and up. Of course there are games like WarioWare which are fun for kids, but many older people like it too. So don't make those statements, they really annoy us!

Maybe they do, does that mean it shouldn't be said?
This is a forum, as long as what I say isn't offensive, or insulting, then I can say it, don't tell me you find me challenging your taste in video games insulting! Rolling Eyes
You can say it's for young kids and up, but the fact remains, if it is made so a young kid can play it, then it is easy and immature.
Also, if anyone accuses me of being a lover of shooting games and the like, just stop there, I am more of an RPG fan Very Happy
But really, even if something is for everyone, it doesn't matter, because not everyone plays it, Cartoon Network is for everyone in thoery, it even has a timeslot for more mature cartoons, but how many people over ten do you know that watch it?
Reddish
LostOverThere
Forum eh? Well Here's my opinion. Yes Nintendo games may seem to be aimed at kids, but they are aimed at everyone.

Kids are part of everyone.
wombatrpgs
reddishblue wrote:
QrafTee wrote:
...For old people it's recreational and for hospitals it's used to rehabilitate people.

Yeah for the five old folks homes that actually have one.
Don't act like it's some huge thing for them, it isn't, they see it as a childrens toy, and really, the Wii is a childrens toy, don't act like the 1000 old folks who like the Wii are some new market demographic, they aren't, they are a minority, and a very small one at that.
They are a: Uber Minor Mini Monority.

It's a really lame thing you Wii fanboys/girls use to make it seem like a console for everyone, I have a Gamecube, and I like it because it has games for kids, and games for teens, none of this 'everyone' crap.
It's like my brothers old videos for babies having an age limit of 8, and it's a show made for 3 year olds.
Come on people, it's a gimmicky console, with games that have little depth and very little replayability.
Reddish


I'd agree... sort of. I don't think the console is going to be that 'revolutionary' as far as new market sectors go. Sure, you get the few reports here and there of random gamer's wives/mothers/grandparents becoming addicted to Wii Sports, but that's because its Wii Sports. That game IS aimed at everyone. You can't target that audience.

But if you go into the rest of the games... There not all aimed at children, (but a lot are.) For instance I really can't see an eight year old playing Red Steel.


reddishblue wrote:
You can say it's for young kids and up, but the fact remains, if it is made so a young kid can play it, then it is easy and immature. Also, if anyone accuses me of being a lover of shooting games and the like, just stop there, I am more of an RPG fan


Not true, really. Wii Sports I find quite fun, but my six-year-old neighbor can beat me at tennis. And plenty of non-gamers enjoy the bowling. But games like that are hard to find around. The only real other one even similar to it is WarioWare, but I can't imagine that has a wide age appeal...

And it does suck there aren't any really good replayability games out there yet... Wii Sports seems to be the best in that area, maybe Play. And I can't name a single RPG for the Wii yet. I'm waiting for Fire Emblem: Goddess of Dawn. Now that should be good.
reddishblue
LostOverThere wrote:
Forum eh? Well Here's my opinion. Yes Nintendo games may seem to be aimed at kids, but they are aimed at everyone.

Kids are part of everyone.

You deserve your opinion, but come on, at least try to back it up, my posts on this topic are always at least five lines long, explaining why I believe what I believe, I wish you would show the same effort.

Also, could someone explain what is so good about it. I have a friend who has it and I've played with him a few times, and the only game in it that doesn't bore the crap out of me is Baseball, because it isn't so much about the flawed points system, honestly, you should be able to get just as good scores when you just start as when you have been playing for months. I hate how my friend is no better then me in real life, but in the Mii world, he kicks my but.

Edit: Also, if the Wii gets a very realistic fencing game, then I will buy it, but it sure as hell better not be some Zelda game that pretends to be like life, does anyone know if any such game is coming?

Reddish
wombatrpgs
reddishblue wrote:
Edit: Also, if the Wii gets a very realistic fencing game, then I will buy it, but it sure as hell better not be some Zelda game that pretends to be like life, does anyone know if any such game is coming?


Not sure if you saw this, was a couple pages back:

Quote:
"Livemove" is developed by a company called "Ailive" and in late October of '06 announced a partnership with Nintendo offering the use of their program to developers.

In short "Livemove" is a program developers can purchase and can then eliminate the need to spend weeks writing complicated code for the motion controls. Instead they will use the programs tools to capture motions and unlike most current games the program will allow Gesture specific controls instead of just tilt and accelerometer controls.

IE: swinging the wiimote in Zelda makes Link swing his sword in a set series of swings that do not necessarily mimic you're swings. (The accelerometer triggers this interaction)

With "Livemove": you swing up and down, and so will Link.

Learn more here: http://www.ailive.net/


I agree about Twilight Princess being an absolute waste of the controller. You might as well not use the technology if I can wiggle my wrist while Link performs stunning combos...

What I would prefer to see for the Wii is something like an Action-style RPG... If anyone remembers Gladius, something like that. Except the small challenges in between would be involving either a mini-sword duel, (thik that one Smooth Moves boss) or something of that nature, or to cast a spell, a short period of time to trace the correct rune. Or just have an action game that required skill with the wiimote and a button held to cast magic. Which would mean you would have to have actual swordsmanship...
reddishblue
^^
Thanks, if any such game comes out I will probably buy a Wii for it, fencing has been a dream for me for some time and I would really like to be able to do it in a realistic but safe way.
I hope developers make use of the technology on offer there, it would make for some mindblowing games.
Reddish
Flexx-D
I've got a Wii, its very cool.. I just bought a new game, Call of Duty 3.. Nice dudes! Wireless play, Internet, Movies, Music, News, Weather, Mii Channel.. You all should buy it!
Whong
Smash Bros Brawl is the BIGGEST hit of the year! Very Happy Does anyone know when will it be released???

This year doesn't it? Rolling Eyes
Seiji
SSB probably won't be out in awhile. I think Super Mario Galaxy will also take a lot of time to come out.
Whong
Seiji wrote:
SSB probably won't be out in awhile. I think Super Mario Galaxy will also take a lot of time to come out.


That's too bad...

They are both great games! Or at least look like great games, hopefully they would arrive before Chirstmas. Very Happy
dark_guardian216
Whether the Wii will be the underdog that rises and well, trashes its competitors remains to be seen. While the other two consoles are focusing on better power, graphics and games, Nintendo has branched out from it's "safe" series, the Pokemon, a steady money earner. With good graphics, maybe a tad bit worse off than the Xbox or the Playstation, it instead branches out into more innovative technology, such as it's new controller. It opens up previously unthinkable areas, such as controlling the way you swing a sword or whack a tennis ball. No one would belive that this technology was totally unheard of a few years ago. But the Nintendo boys really pulled a rabbit out of the hat, and come out with this beauty called the Wii, which I feel has a VERY good chance of winning the console race.
vln004
we just got the wii a couple week ago and it has to be the best machine ever built. Sure the graphics aren't as pretty, but damn it is fun to play. wii sports->tennis owns.

the only game that i play other than wii sports is zelda. I'm still waiting for better games to come out. does anyone know when super smash bros. wiill be released?
wombatrpgs
Its slated for a 2007 release, the only thing people are sure about is that it'll be before Christmas. Check out this site, I'm sure you'll find it interesting and when the launch date's announced, it'll be here first:
http://www.smashbros.com
vln004
thanks, looks like it'll be just awsome. Hopefully it's better than melee which was an awsome game. I wish the screenshots at that site were a tad bigger
Geminh
I'm still trying to get the Wii but even in my area they get sold out way too fast. Once it's in stock i plan to get one. The game i'm most interested so far would be Metroid Prime 3: Corruption and Mario Galaxy. I've seen trailers on the games and it got me hooked on the wii.
QrafTee
Geminh wrote:
I'm still trying to get the Wii but even in my area they get sold out way too fast. Once it's in stock i plan to get one. The game i'm most interested so far would be Metroid Prime 3: Corruption and Mario Galaxy. I've seen trailers on the games and it got me hooked on the wii.

IGN said that Metroid Prime 3: Corruption could be the best FPS ever... kinda surprising since I thought they'd be saying that about Halo 3. But Halo 3 will have online multiplayer which Metroid Prime 3 and a lot of Nintendo first-party games seem to be lacking.
Whong
QrafTee wrote:
Geminh wrote:
I'm still trying to get the Wii but even in my area they get sold out way too fast. Once it's in stock i plan to get one. The game i'm most interested so far would be Metroid Prime 3: Corruption and Mario Galaxy. I've seen trailers on the games and it got me hooked on the wii.

IGN said that Metroid Prime 3: Corruption could be the best FPS ever... kinda surprising since I thought they'd be saying that about Halo 3. But Halo 3 will have online multiplayer which Metroid Prime 3 and a lot of Nintendo first-party games seem to be lacking.


Metroid Prime 2 was a great game though I'm not into FPS games! Hope that Prime 3 is really great, it looks really nice!!! Very Happy
Fire Boar
Yes, Metroid is quite an unusual FPS in that it's more RPGish. It's a fantastic series though, and well worth looking at.
Loghete
According to Nintendo, SSBB will be released Dec 3...
wombatrpgs
QrafTee wrote:
Geminh wrote:
I'm still trying to get the Wii but even in my area they get sold out way too fast. Once it's in stock i plan to get one. The game i'm most interested so far would be Metroid Prime 3: Corruption and Mario Galaxy. I've seen trailers on the games and it got me hooked on the wii.

IGN said that Metroid Prime 3: Corruption could be the best FPS ever... kinda surprising since I thought they'd be saying that about Halo 3. But Halo 3 will have online multiplayer which Metroid Prime 3 and a lot of Nintendo first-party games seem to be lacking.


Its seems that Nintendo is being overly protective about online audiences, again bringing up the 'kiddy' issue. You can see the restrictiveness of Nintendo's online multiplayer with the DS... They REALLY need a quick match mode. The same thing with the Wii Friend Codes. I really hope Brawl will be the first game with an online multiplayer allowing you to play against people you don't know.
bladesage
I got my hands on one earlier this month I believe (maybe late last month). Anyone looking for a Wii friend? If you're interested in having me as a friend, PM me and we can exchange console numbers.

I really got lucky to get a copy of the Wii...they had three left in stock at the store, and when we came back a half-hour later to get one for my aunt, they were already sold out. Good to see people expressing an interest in Nintendo once again Wink!

As far as the PS3 being better, I disagree. If I wanted to spend that much money, even for that many features, I'd just buy a new computer Very Happy.
Whong
wombatrpgs wrote:
QrafTee wrote:
Geminh wrote:
I'm still trying to get the Wii but even in my area they get sold out way too fast. Once it's in stock i plan to get one. The game i'm most interested so far would be Metroid Prime 3: Corruption and Mario Galaxy. I've seen trailers on the games and it got me hooked on the wii.

IGN said that Metroid Prime 3: Corruption could be the best FPS ever... kinda surprising since I thought they'd be saying that about Halo 3. But Halo 3 will have online multiplayer which Metroid Prime 3 and a lot of Nintendo first-party games seem to be lacking.


Its seems that Nintendo is being overly protective about online audiences, again bringing up the 'kiddy' issue. You can see the restrictiveness of Nintendo's online multiplayer with the DS... They REALLY need a quick match mode. The same thing with the Wii Friend Codes. I really hope Brawl will be the first game with an online multiplayer allowing you to play against people you don't know.


Yes, I hope so too! I'd like to play Brawl against some people whom I don't know! I hope the online play will really work well, it would really be so great! Very HappyVery Happy
vonboy
Quote:
And where did you get the image? If its not released by Nintendo, its most likely 'artist's rendition'. But I did hear something about multiple skins.

i think nintendd released that image more then a year ago. back then they were talking about different collored wiis, they also had the main color as black at the time. then they just switch to white before release, and forgot about the other colors i guess lol.
Seiji
Madden '08 will be online Shocked So excited for this and I think they will have a ranking system. It comes out soon too so we don't have to wait long.
Geminh
The new recent Mario Striker isn't that bad either. I tried it out once i looked at it's official page and saw the game before i bought it. Like people said the single player ain't that fun but i enjoyed the multiplayer
mode=p.
Whong
Have you been checking out the Super Smash Bros Brawl website?

www.smashbros.com

So many interesting things every day. Smile The sticker thing looks nice. Smile
moeller
The Nintendo Wii is still dominating the PS3 in worldwide sales. People just love the Wii because everyone can play it without much learning, including older people, and it is a great party system. With games such as Mario Party and Wario Ware: Smooth Moves, parties can be a lot of fun with the Wii. People love the system also because the controllers. The motion sensitive capabilities are far superior to the PS3 or the Xbox 360, and the create a whole new game play environment.
lastelement0
i am one of the many people out there waiting to get a wii. im hopefully getting one for my b-day b/c my girlfriend is hooked on it and really wants to get it for me. so i hope she can get her hands on one because damn...i want to play mario strikers charged!!!

the wii will also come in handy if my girlfriend and i get into an argument. we will just go and have a round of wii boxing and see who comes out on top. i think it may be the new wave of therapy for couples lol.

i still plan on getting the ps3 as opposed to xbox360 in the near future. not exactly sure when. probably when i get bored of the wii. lol so basically in a very long time. but i wonder when the supply will finally at least catch up to the demand of the system. it just seems as if they arent producing nearly enough of the systems for them to last in stores what so ever. but you can go anywhere and find at least one ps3 on the shelves. that goes to show price will always lose to cheap innovations when it comes to gaming.
FroHawK
the wii...

i see it as a great party system. My brother has it and i played the Wii sports. I couldnt stop playing it. I threw my arm out playing it but it was fun.
j14fusion14
Has anyone here gotten Mario Strikers Charged? It is a great game but a little to much fighting and a little less soccer but it is still awesome. I like the online play it is pretty fun. I also just got wing island for the wii that game is really fun Laughing. You can fly around all these different islands and complete all different tasks...... Anyone else have that game?




-j14fusion
Whong
j14fusion14 wrote:
Has anyone here gotten Mario Strikers Charged? It is a great game but a little to much fighting and a little less soccer but it is still awesome. I like the online play it is pretty fun. I also just got wing island for the wii that game is really fun Laughing. You can fly around all these different islands and complete all different tasks...... Anyone else have that game?




-j14fusion


Wing Island? You mean that N64 game? One of my friends had it and I liked it pretty much! It was a great game too! Very Happy

I'd love to try Mario Strikers Charged! It looks very good and you said it's awesome! Very Happy
j14fusion14
Whong wrote:
j14fusion14 wrote:
Has anyone here gotten Mario Strikers Charged? It is a great game but a little to much fighting and a little less soccer but it is still awesome. I like the online play it is pretty fun. I also just got wing island for the wii that game is really fun Laughing. You can fly around all these different islands and complete all different tasks...... Anyone else have that game?




-j14fusion


Wing Island? You mean that N64 game? One of my friends had it and I liked it pretty much! It was a great game too! Very Happy

I'd love to try Mario Strikers Charged! It looks very good and you said it's awesome! Very Happy


No there is a wing island for wii it is hard to find though. Yeah you should get Mario Strikers Charged it is the best online game for the wii right now and I think it is the best game for wii.
Whong
j14fusion14 wrote:
Whong wrote:
j14fusion14 wrote:
Has anyone here gotten Mario Strikers Charged? It is a great game but a little to much fighting and a little less soccer but it is still awesome. I like the online play it is pretty fun. I also just got wing island for the wii that game is really fun Laughing. You can fly around all these different islands and complete all different tasks...... Anyone else have that game?




-j14fusion


Wing Island? You mean that N64 game? One of my friends had it and I liked it pretty much! It was a great game too! Very Happy

I'd love to try Mario Strikers Charged! It looks very good and you said it's awesome! Very Happy


No there is a wing island for wii it is hard to find though. Yeah you should get Mario Strikers Charged it is the best online game for the wii right now and I think it is the best game for wii.


Have you tried Zelda Twilight Princess? It is an amazing game too! Very Happy

Smash Bros Brawl will be a major hit! I just can't wait for it. Smile It looks fabulous and it should have a online mode too. Smile
j14fusion14
Whong wrote:
j14fusion14 wrote:
Whong wrote:
j14fusion14 wrote:
Has anyone here gotten Mario Strikers Charged? It is a great game but a little to much fighting and a little less soccer but it is still awesome. I like the online play it is pretty fun. I also just got wing island for the wii that game is really fun Laughing. You can fly around all these different islands and complete all different tasks...... Anyone else have that game?




-j14fusion


Wing Island? You mean that N64 game? One of my friends had it and I liked it pretty much! It was a great game too! Very Happy

I'd love to try Mario Strikers Charged! It looks very good and you said it's awesome! Very Happy


No there is a wing island for wii it is hard to find though. Yeah you should get Mario Strikers Charged it is the best online game for the wii right now and I think it is the best game for wii.


Have you tried Zelda Twilight Princess? It is an amazing game too! Very Happy

Smash Bros Brawl will be a major hit! I just can't wait for it. Smile It looks fabulous and it should have a online mode too. Smile


Yeah I have Twilight Princess I kind of got bored and haven't completed it. Yeah my favorite games that I am waiting for on the Wii are Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, and Super Smash Bros. Brawl. They are going to make the Wii amazing. I can't wait, this year is going to be great for Wii players. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
Fire Boar
http://www.smashbros.com/

Awesome link. They're telling you loads of stuff about the upcoming game - it's like a daily leak. Definitely worth visiting at least once.
Whong
Fire Boar wrote:
http://www.smashbros.com/

Awesome link. They're telling you loads of stuff about the upcoming game - it's like a daily leak. Definitely worth visiting at least once.


Yeah! Absolutely fantastic!!! Very Happy Really superb. This is my favourite site! Very Happy
j14fusion14
Fire Boar wrote:
http://www.smashbros.com/

Awesome link. They're telling you loads of stuff about the upcoming game - it's like a daily leak. Definitely worth visiting at least once.


Yes this site has to be one of the best smash sites ever but I hope they don't give out to much info then the game might be a little dull. But I love that they are telling us what they are putting in the game it is really cool.
LostOverThere
Those developers sure know how to keep Gamers hanging on.

BTW: SSB Theme Music FTW! Smile
wombatrpgs
j14fusion14 wrote:

Yes this site has to be one of the best smash sites ever but I hope they don't give out to much info then the game might be a little dull. But I love that they are telling us what they are putting in the game it is really cool.


Imagine actually waiting until a game's release to see what's in it...

The updates from Sakurai are very generous and reveal a lot about the game. But does that mean we really should be looking at them? Isn't it better to just enjoy the game and find all this stuff out for yourself? Its like looking up the secrets for a game you haven't beaten yet... I think this is really spoiling the game.

Sure, you could argue its a great marketing device, and it definitely is. I wonder how many hits they get a day? And it really is generating hype for brawl, but must they reveal so much? For example... It's nice to know that there's an Animal Crossing stage, but telling us about the easter egg? Really, that would have been fun to find for yourself.

You could say "You don't have to look at the site..." Well that's true, but I'd prefer to be up to date with information about the game. Reading these things doesn't give anyone an edge, as everyone's reading them. Kind of like one person standing up in a movie theater to get a better view. It doesn't work, everyone else stands up and no one's view is better, except now everyone's uncomfortable and standing up.
Whong
wombatrpgs wrote:
j14fusion14 wrote:

Yes this site has to be one of the best smash sites ever but I hope they don't give out to much info then the game might be a little dull. But I love that they are telling us what they are putting in the game it is really cool.


Imagine actually waiting until a game's release to see what's in it...

The updates from Sakurai are very generous and reveal a lot about the game. But does that mean we really should be looking at them? Isn't it better to just enjoy the game and find all this stuff out for yourself? Its like looking up the secrets for a game you haven't beaten yet... I think this is really spoiling the game.


Yeah that's true, but when there is such a great chance to learn something new about the game everyday so it really is too tempting to go and check out what's new! Very Happy

But there is something in it that, you can talk with friends and get to know the game already now and then when it really comes out you can look forward to all those cool things. It really is double sided issue.
wombatrpgs
What I find really funny are dsicussions on topics such as "Deoxys is broken," "Curry is pointless," "Yoshhi's FS is best," etc... When the game hasn't been played by any of these people, they're only actually saying what they think might happen, or what it looks like from the screenshots, Almost none of this realtive information and things such as strategy is given in the updates, so debates on those things are pointless.

And I admit I enjoy the updates. I wish I didn't, but I think it would best on release day if they hadn't existed. Or at least not the real spoil-y ones. Starting characters, assist trophies, and modes of play work very well for updates. Ike, stages, and final smashes do not. I'd love uncovering the Smash Ball and not knowing what was about to happen...
QrafTee
wombatrpgs wrote:
What I find really funny are dsicussions on topics such as "Deoxys is broken," "Curry is pointless," "Yoshhi's FS is best," etc... When the game hasn't been played by any of these people, they're only actually saying what they think might happen, or what it looks like from the screenshots, Almost none of this realtive information and things such as strategy is given in the updates, so debates on those things are pointless.

And I admit I enjoy the updates. I wish I didn't, but I think it would best on release day if they hadn't existed. Or at least not the real spoil-y ones. Starting characters, assist trophies, and modes of play work very well for updates. Ike, stages, and final smashes do not. I'd love uncovering the Smash Ball and not knowing what was about to happen...

What's broken about Deoxys? I haven't checked thoroughlly, but I don't remember anything about Deoxys. I'm not sure how pointless Curry is because it seems like it's beneficial to be able to use attacks while blowing out fire. I like the idea of Assist Trophies (although it's really just a pokéball) and the whole Special Brawl was something I was looking forward to.

The point is the discussion isn't pointless. Because people who strategize before the game is even out know what they're talking about from past experiences. Yes, it's not the same game, but it's similar (this isn't debatable). And yes, it won't turn out to be like what you discussed exactly, but with a few modifications to your plan it should go pretty nicely. Yes, some things we'll never know until we actually get our hands on it but it's always good to prepare first.
Whong
QrafTee wrote:
wombatrpgs wrote:
What I find really funny are dsicussions on topics such as "Deoxys is broken," "Curry is pointless," "Yoshhi's FS is best," etc... When the game hasn't been played by any of these people, they're only actually saying what they think might happen, or what it looks like from the screenshots, Almost none of this realtive information and things such as strategy is given in the updates, so debates on those things are pointless.

And I admit I enjoy the updates. I wish I didn't, but I think it would best on release day if they hadn't existed. Or at least not the real spoil-y ones. Starting characters, assist trophies, and modes of play work very well for updates. Ike, stages, and final smashes do not. I'd love uncovering the Smash Ball and not knowing what was about to happen...

What's broken about Deoxys? I haven't checked thoroughlly, but I don't remember anything about Deoxys. I'm not sure how pointless Curry is because it seems like it's beneficial to be able to use attacks while blowing out fire. I like the idea of Assist Trophies (although it's really just a pokéball) and the whole Special Brawl was something I was looking forward to.


I think the Assist Trophies are really great! Yes, they're basically just like pokeballs, but it's still a great thing! Smile Hopefully there would be a lot of new characters and stages! And some old stages would be nice too, like Dream Land 64 and Corneria.
enygmasoft
reallyjoel wrote:
I see sticky's for PS3 and Xbox360, but not alot of love for Nintendo or specifically the Wii.

I'm definately getting a Wii, and I don't actually know anyone whose choice isn't the Wii.
We've also had a 360 at our schools (game design at uni) "games room" since launch, but the most anyone ever played on that is a bit of Hexic, or whatever it's called. I think even the old Xbox has seen more action.

And as for hitting weakspots to deal massive damage? Well.. it's a bit been there, done that, dont'cha think?


Good Point which is why they are copying additional game ideas from the wii. like for instance the vibration sensability which was first coined by the wii is now being copied bu xbox and ps3. WHile i centratinly wish Konami would releeas the games on the wii for Metal gear andd maybe resident evil 5 is another reason to get the ps3.

I have never liked any xbox games except for ninja gaiden game which came out on that. At the end these games are the only reason to get anything but the wII. Wii has so many good games it amazing how creative they are now becoming as the gaming system that all the companies are copyinh again. just like the n 64 and the analog stick tghat PS copied. so too they get jecked for the motion capture control.
m-productions
uhhh what the heck is wrong with nintendo... are they idiots!?!?!

Smash Bros is now 100% confirmed for online play...great right, nintendo getting into the online action? WRONG!!!

First.. there are 2 options, friend matches, or random people.
For friends, we are still stuck with a crapy 15 digit lameness.... but get this, in random... WE GET NO INFO FROM THE PERSON!!! not only this, you cant even use a mic when fighting random people!?!?! only with friends! seriouly... thats just stupid...so now when you meet a good player, and want to add to friends...HA you cant... you have no idea who he is, you have no idea what his code is, and you cant ask him!!

Quote:

Your opponent will not know your name or any information about you, and neither of you can send short messages. There will also be no battle records kept for this mode, so whether you win or lose, it doesn’t matter. Just sit back and play.

Now, while you’re waiting for a match to start, you can kill time with a little practice on Sandbag.

straight from the site!!! WTH!!! NINTENDO... YOU IDIOTS!
wombatrpgs
m-productions wrote:
uhhh what the heck is wrong with nintendo... are they idiots!?!?!

Smash Bros is now 100% confirmed for online play...great right, nintendo getting into the online action? WRONG!!!

First.. there are 2 options, friend matches, or random people.
For friends, we are still stuck with a crapy 15 digit lameness.... but get this, in random... WE GET NO INFO FROM THE PERSON!!! not only this, you cant even use a mic when fighting random people!?!?! only with friends! seriouly... thats just stupid...so now when you meet a good player, and want to add to friends...HA you cant... you have no idea who he is, you have no idea what his code is, and you cant ask him!!


For one thing, that's not Nintendo's method. They're trying to advocate their consoles are more kid-friendly, which is definitely true. There's no threat to your six-year-old playing someone he's never met before, it's anonymous.

Also, consider the alternatives. The first, and most easy for Sakurai, is to not have WiFi play at all, period. Or you can only play with your friends. Next is the all-out Xbox imitation, with mics and such. Not kid friendly. That really brings out the worst in people. There is almost no intelligent communication in those games, mainly yelling obscenities and laughing at noobs.

Nintendo's trying to find some sort of a middle ground: satisfying the demands of hardcore gamers who want a random-play mode, and also satisfy concerned parents, who have seen the chaos of Halo online. However, it definitely is annoying that there is NO communication. It would've been nice to have a list of "smash friends" that could be saved and challenged again later. Still no communication and all, but the ability to replay someone.

And Sakurai did say they were planning more online services...
m-productions
I agree with you 100%, it is nice they are being kid friendly, and the fact that there wont be any of that hate, HOWEVER, the length they are going at this with is beyond stupid... nintendo needs to get with it with the online. The problem here is, noone will know if your really good, youll have no idea who your playing... if your playing someone good, who you wish to play with a lot, how can you add them? you cant? theres a lot wrong here.
Fire Boar
I think it's a good thing, actually. You can have fun with another human player without internet angst, n00b name-calling, etc, etc. There's no e-pride, there's just fun. Kudos, Nintendo.
Whong
Fire Boar wrote:
I think it's a good thing, actually. You can have fun with another human player without internet angst, n00b name-calling, etc, etc. There's no e-pride, there's just fun. Kudos, Nintendo.


That's true! It is a good thing! Smile A lot of fun for everyone! Wink
wombatrpgs
QrafTee wrote:
What's broken about Deoxys? I haven't checked thoroughlly, but I don't remember anything about Deoxys. I'm not sure how pointless Curry is because it seems like it's beneficial to be able to use attacks while blowing out fire. I like the idea of Assist Trophies (although it's really just a pokéball) and the whole Special Brawl was something I was looking forward to.

The point is the discussion isn't pointless. Because people who strategize before the game is even out know what they're talking about from past experiences. Yes, it's not the same game, but it's similar (this isn't debatable). And yes, it won't turn out to be like what you discussed exactly, but with a few modifications to your plan it should go pretty nicely. Yes, some things we'll never know until we actually get our hands on it but it's always good to prepare first.


The first three examples, were, unbelievably, examples. I was just pulling random combinations of titles from my traumatic GameFAQs experience. (Hint: Never visit those forums. Ever.) I really don't have much of an opinion on those subjects, the reason I posted before.

About drawing conclusions from Melee... That's definitely true, to some extent. However, certain things, such as timings, lag, percent damage inflicted, etc, are all entirely unknown, especially involving new characters. All of these form the real elements to look for when putting together a strategy. A move could be pointless or perfect, there's no real way to tell yet. But still, what fun is a game before release without pointless deabte and hypothesizing.


m-productions wrote:
I agree with you 100%, it is nice they are being kid friendly, and the fact that there wont be any of that hate, HOWEVER, the length they are going at this with is beyond stupid... nintendo needs to get with it with the online. The problem here is, noone will know if your really good, youll have no idea who your playing... if your playing someone good, who you wish to play with a lot, how can you add them? you cant? theres a lot wrong here.


Maybe the point of all of this isn't competitive play and skill levels. Nintendo is about exceptionally random fun. Random. You're not meant to 'honing skills' or anything like that, not in the true sense of the game. The point is, even a pro is paired with a total newb, there's still a chance the random item lands on someone's foot and the match is a toss-up. Although its annoying to not be able to only find god competitors for a great match every time, there's something to be said for an element of surprise.

Speaking of which, I'm wondering how stages are chosen in multiplayer? Randomly, or same as Melee?


Whong wrote:
That's true! It is a good thing! A lot of fun for everyone!


Not everyone. The hardcore gamer / anyone who has really enjoyed Halo will find this totally stupid. See above.
mrimp
I love the Wii. I know some people say that the console is for kids, but it's not. I always try to tell people how cool it is. I can't wait for Metroid Prime 3 (it's not out in the UK yet...).
Whong
mrimp wrote:
I love the Wii. I know some people say that the console is for kids, but it's not. I always try to tell people how cool it is. I can't wait for Metroid Prime 3 (it's not out in the UK yet...).


You're absolutely right about that! Wii is for everyone! I'm waiting for Smash Bros Brawl and also Mario and Sonic at the Olympics. It look really interesting and great to see Mario and Sonic together! Very Happy
COOL, AIN'T IT! Very Happy
rosco86
Has anyone played FIFA 08 yet? I wouldn't usually bother with it as I love Pro Evo but I'm really interested in how it'll work on the wii.
Fire Boar
wombatrpgs wrote:
Whong wrote:
That's true! It is a good thing! A lot of fun for everyone!


Not everyone. The hardcore gamer / anyone who has really enjoyed Halo will find this totally stupid. See above.


Not necessarily. Take me for example. I am a hardcore gamer, and yet I find that this is a good thing. Games where you can interact with others are fun, but games where you can play anonymously are also equally fun.
Seiji
Well I have just as much fun playing Mario Party and plus Halo 3 wasn't as great as I thought it would be but thats for another topic.
wombatrpgs
Fire Boar wrote:
Not necessarily. Take me for example. I am a hardcore gamer, and yet I find that this is a good thing. Games where you can interact with others are fun, but games where you can play anonymously are also equally fun.


At least they could have made some sort of other mode, some way to become specific "brawl" friends, rather than exchanging Wii numbers? For instance, you'd name the person yourself based on any whim just to keep the different opponents apart. Communication would still be non-existant, but you'd just be requested at the end of a match, "Add this person to you Brawl Friends List?"

Also, if Nintendo did adopt a very open multiplayer with an anonymity feature be equal to what we have now? Actually, we really don't much about what we 'have...' Perhaps we'll eventually get other online features? Check back to the statement about WiFi services in the hundredth update again.
Whong
Fire Boar wrote:
wombatrpgs wrote:
Whong wrote:
That's true! It is a good thing! A lot of fun for everyone!


Not everyone. The hardcore gamer / anyone who has really enjoyed Halo will find this totally stupid. See above.


Not necessarily. Take me for example. I am a hardcore gamer, and yet I find that this is a good thing. Games where you can interact with others are fun, but games where you can play anonymously are also equally fun.


Yes, that's true! Smile

It all comes down to that that everyone of us have a different taste. Some like to play annonymously, some don't. But Brawl really will be a great game!!!
medievalman26
I have to admit most of the games are fairly bad but I really like Wii sports and Mario Party
Fire Boar
Is that "most are fairly bad" or "most that I have played are really bad". If it's the latter, try some of these:

Zelda - Twilight Princess
Wario Ware - Smooth Moves
Excite Truck
Red Steel
Metroid Prime 3 - Corruption
The upcoming Super Smash Bros. Brawl (We all know it's going to be awesome no matter what happens)

To name but a few.
Whong
Fire Boar wrote:
Is that "most are fairly bad" or "most that I have played are really bad". If it's the latter, try some of these:

Zelda - Twilight Princess
Wario Ware - Smooth Moves
Excite Truck
Red Steel
Metroid Prime 3 - Corruption
The upcoming Super Smash Bros. Brawl (We all know it's going to be awesome no matter what happens)

To name but a few.


Yeah, that's right. Wii has a lot of excellent games. Maybe you've just bought the "wrong" games... Confused
wombatrpgs
Fire Boar wrote:
Is that "most are fairly bad" or "most that I have played are really bad". If it's the latter, try some of these:

Zelda - Twilight Princess
Wario Ware - Smooth Moves
Excite Truck
Red Steel
Metroid Prime 3 - Corruption
The upcoming Super Smash Bros. Brawl (We all know it's going to be awesome no matter what happens)

To name but a few.


I'd disagree with Twilight Princess... That game really depressed me with the quality of the Zelda series. Nothing's really new, and the game was too short, and most importantly, way too easy. Any game where the final boss can be taken down in one try is way too simplistic, (unless its a rogue-like or something of that nature).

Although Wario Ware is quite excellent, although it's gotten some bad reviews. I guess people aren't getting the point of that series, although I do miss Wario Land. Badly.

And what happened to Wii Sports? That's at least number three on my top Wii games list...
Loghete
Oh yes, you never get bored of Wii Sports. Only soar arms.
Seiji
Super Mario Galaxy in just a few days. Is anyone going to go get it? Or are you already playing it Twisted Evil
xbcd
wii sports is excellent. Probably going to pull an all nighter again this weekend playing it.

Guitar hero is one game that i really want to try on the wii, haven't played it yet but it will be interesting to try it.
wombatrpgs
Wii Sports is one of the only games out there right now that utilizes the controller; that’s what makes it such a great game. But yeah, excellent choice for a default game.

Anyway, I just picked up the next Fire Emblem yesterday… One of the best games so far for the Wii I’d say, although it doesn’t even use the controller at all. And it’s much harder than the last couple games. (Might even repel from the series it’s so difficult, only a veteran would have the will to finish it on anything above Normal mode) But that game’s worth the fifty bucks if you like RPGs, and I think that’ll be the last game for me until Brawl in February. No Galaxy for me just yet.
Seiji
I didn't even know Fire Emblem was on the Wii. I'll have to get sometime later because Super Mario Galaxy is just too good for me to let go. Comes out tomorrow so I might have to wait around until Tuesday to pick up a copy.
QrafTee
Okay, to all those people complaining about not being able to use a mic via online. I just played Halo 3 with my friends and a lot of people talk a lot of crap there. I mean seriously, either they talk crap because they're winning and cocky as well or they're bitching so much because they're losing; both are pretty bad and unfortunately common. Aside from that, I was watching my friend play Team Fortress 2 today and the same stuff happened with something even more annoying. Music played via mic just randomly. Wow, why the hell would you want that?

It's only Super Smash Bros. Brawl, not freakin' Call of Duty 4, Team Fortress 2, or Halo 3 where you need to tell your comrades which point to defend and where the enemies are. If you can't find the bad guys, maybe a mic isn't your biggest problem.

Now to the points system, I see where Nintendo is going with it, but I also see the flaw in it. Nintendo is seeing the whole keeping track of points and keeping a record as a way to boost ones ego and make people even more nastier than if records weren't kept. Unfortunately, Xbox Live proved quite convincingly that keeping records motivate players to get better and keep playing. I personally don't care, I'm one of those people who would play Starcraft: Brood War and as I'm about to win, I'd leave the game so I'd purposely get a loss.

The Friend Code--although intended for good--shouldn't be eliminated altogether, but it should only limit the youngsters. Limiting us altogether is just frustrating.

Agree? Disagree? Reasons?
eday2010
A way around it would be fore Nintendo to set up age verification for online play. If you can prove you are over 18 on your account, with, say, a credit card number, then you get access to mic abilities and all the annoying nerds who are cocky because all they do is play a game all day just ot be the best and to the regular joe's out there. If you can't verify, then you get the totally anonymous online play as described with SSB.

Seems like something that could work.
goldfinger
On x-mas i will buy a wii for my family and me. I like the wii very much..
QrafTee
goldfinger wrote:
On x-mas i will buy a wii for my family and me. I like the wii very much..

If you have trouble finding a Wii (because waiting until Christmas to buy one is plain dumb, you won't find it), I believe Circuit City should have it this Sunday; you may have to wait in line in the morning. I'm not sure about Best Buy though.
rabbidman
I own a wii myself and they are loads of fun. Good luck on getting one for Christmas.
ryandeboer
Anyone managed to get the wii controller connected to a PC? I heard someone managed to do it once. I wonder if its easier to use than a mouse.
garionw
I don't reckon it would be easier to use then a mouse... each time you want to type something you would have to put it down and pick it up at the end.
QrafTee
ryandeboer wrote:
Anyone managed to get the wii controller connected to a PC? I heard someone managed to do it once. I wonder if its easier to use than a mouse.

If you want a Wii-mouse for your PC, there are Gyroscopic... err (I think) Remotes/Mice for the PC already. They function pretty much like the Wii Remotes... but I'm not sure if they sense pitch and yaw.
yanille
See, I had a wii for a while, but then traded it in for an Xbox 360. The 360 seems to have more in the way of games.
Packfan104L4
yanille wrote:
See, I had a wii for a while, but then traded it in for an Xbox 360. The 360 seems to have more in the way of games.


Well dur. When a console is out for an extra year, it's bound to have a couple more games.

No. No sarcasm in my voice at all Laughing
wombatrpgs
yanille wrote:
See, I had a wii for a while, but then traded it in for an Xbox 360. The 360 seems to have more in the way of games.


And paid as well, I'm sure...
But that's not the point... The 360 has one or two really nice games, but the Wii has pretty consistent quality for non-synergistic non-movie/tv based games, which are much more original than the 360. The Xbox of course specializes in the same old shooters, but I'd like to think the Wii has a bit more variety to it. You have a couple sequel clones of course, (think Twilight Princess), but there are a lot of creative games that can use the WiiMote. (Think WarioWare.) Anyway, The 360 just doesn't have many orginal games. More, yes, but its been out for about an extra year...
Whong
wombatrpgs wrote:
yanille wrote:
See, I had a wii for a while, but then traded it in for an Xbox 360. The 360 seems to have more in the way of games.


And paid as well, I'm sure...
But that's not the point... The 360 has one or two really nice games, but the Wii has pretty consistent quality for non-synergistic non-movie/tv based games, which are much more original than the 360. The Xbox of course specializes in the same old shooters, but I'd like to think the Wii has a bit more variety to it. You have a couple sequel clones of course, (think Twilight Princess), but there are a lot of creative games that can use the WiiMote. (Think WarioWare.) Anyway, The 360 just doesn't have many orginal games. More, yes, but its been out for about an extra year...


Yes that's true! Wii has a lot of great games that are really fun. It far depends though what kind of games you like... Some just can't stand RPG:s and one doesn't like platform games, so it's really about what each person likes.
kriminalas
Wii is my favorite console. I have xbox360 console, but wii is better for me...
Whong
Wii has been on the market nearly a year. How many copies of Wii have been sold, does anyone know? Confused
eday2010
As of the end of September, the Nintendo has sold over 13 million Wii systems worldwide.
Whong
eday2010 wrote:
As of the end of September, the Nintendo has sold over 13 million Wii systems worldwide.


WOW, that's quite a lot of Wiis just in less than a year. Very Happy Great going NINTENDO! Very Happy
wombatrpgs
And of course, that's bound to go up with the Christmas season. I remember NPR had some report on their popularity... They're supposed to be hard-to-find gifts again this year.

And by the way, where did the statistic come from?
eday2010
Wikipedia; they have sales stats for each of the three consoles as of the end of September, which they have referenced. I am sure NPD has stats as well, since they track that kind of crap.
QrafTee
wombatrpgs wrote:
And of course, that's bound to go up with the Christmas season. I remember NPR had some report on their popularity... They're supposed to be hard-to-find gifts again this year.

And by the way, where did the statistic come from?

The Wii is going to be another sold-out console this Christmas as it was last Christmas. Hopefully this year, Nintendo has enough manufacturing companies churning out Wiis to keep up with demand.
Whong
QrafTee wrote:
wombatrpgs wrote:
And of course, that's bound to go up with the Christmas season. I remember NPR had some report on their popularity... They're supposed to be hard-to-find gifts again this year.

And by the way, where did the statistic come from?

The Wii is going to be another sold-out console this Christmas as it was last Christmas. Hopefully this year, Nintendo has enough manufacturing companies churning out Wiis to keep up with demand.


Hopefully, since last year here in Finland they were already all reserved beforehand. I had to order my copy from an other city, since they were all "sold out" before it had even been released... Laughing Rolling Eyes
enygmasoft
The wii is the most appropo name ever invented by man. WII!!!!!!!!!!! is fun. Yeppi cai yeh! The games are amazing fun the very inventive.
Zombie
I am thinking of buying a wii, but i'm wondering if the controls are as interactive as the commercials suggest. I mean, the person will flail the controls around, and zelda will appear to react accordingly, but I doubt this is realistic. Are both controllers capable of directing movement without the use of a button/joystick? Or do you use one stick to flail and the other to bash?
Seiji
Nights comes out in three days. Anyone going to go get it? I've never played the older version of Nights so I don't know much about it but it looks like a pretty good platformer.
quex
NiGHTS is gonna be sweet. The one thing about that game I remember from the old days (almost 12 years ago, damn) is that the storyline is a little... fluffy. Not pink ribbons and bows fluffy, but for the full effect, it seems that keeping an open mind and playing it once through without your pals around really helps. You have to get used to being an androgynous flying clown, after all.

And yeah, finding a Wii is fecking nuts these days. Unless you're ready for a fight, I'd say waiting until January (or February) is wisest.

If only it wasn't so hard to buy Nintendo stock from here...
Loghete
Hey, I had a dream last night where I bought a game that I've considered buying, and it was awesome. But now I can't remember which game it was! D=
wombatrpgs
It probably wasn't a specific game anyway... Dreams are like that.

In any case, I just used a Wii to entertain at a a Christmas party... Somehow twenty 5-12 year olds managed to cooperate while playing Wario Ware and Wii Tenis. Truly the beauty of the Wii lies in the fact that you can learn a good game in about five minutes...
eday2010
The innovativeness of the controller is why I want to get a Wii. Sure, I could get a PS3 or Xbox 360, but for what? To play the same kinds of games the same way the PS2 and Xbox played, which played the same as the generation beofre that, only prettier? No thanks. At leastthe Wii gives you a new way to play.

I lost interest in new consoles and games in the late 90's because it was basically the same stuff as the console before, only nicer looking. Sure, games moved from 2D to 3D, but too much of it went 3D. 3D is great for driving and sports and FPS games, and the odd adventure game, but I like 2D side scrolling games. And sadly no one makes those anymore for the new consoles except handhelds and cell phones.
smokey4life
eLto wrote:
10 reasons why the PS3 beats all you nintendo fanboys:

1 Nvidia RSX GPU.
2 Cell CPU with 8 dual-cores
3 Bluetooth
4 Blu-Ray (54 GB storage space)
5 Hard drive
6 wireless controllers with motion sensibilty, ergonomically shaped
7 Memory slots for various types of media
8 Support for 7 controllers
9 Plays all sorts of media (mp3, wav, avi, mpg etc.)
10 It looks tons cooler

I know you people like Nintendo, and don't get me wrong, so did I, until the N64 came out, still using cartridges. Zelda was GREAT, Golden eye was GREAT, perfect dark was GREAT, and hell, even diddy kong racing was fun, but Nintendo seems to always aim for children and new playing styles, whereas sony (and micro suck) aim for the mainstream masses of multimedia, and therefore get way better performing consoles.


Anyway, that's my opinion, and your opinions are yours. Nothing I can do about it.
I completely agree with you on that one PS3 is the way to go if you want intense gaming, but i still think im going to have to get me one of these WII's they just look so damn cool and i cant wait to check out how they actually play i have heard many others talk about them but you never know until you experience it yourself....
vonboy
on vgcharts.com, they have the wii sales at almost 17 million as off last week. THeres also people on there specualtion wether the wii will sell a million this week or not.
Whong
vonboy wrote:
on vgcharts.com, they have the wii sales at almost 17 million as off last week. THeres also people on there specualtion wether the wii will sell a million this week or not.


WOW, that's really a lot... ! Cool! Very Happy
Boffel
Yo, I did just bought a wii as a x-mas present. I will test it after x-mas, and I hope its cool!

Is it true that you don't need any extra stuff to use wireless internet connection? I hope so Very Happy

I also looking forward to test the cool control system!


btw: Happy Christmas all! Laughing
vonboy
if you already have a wireless router, your all set. if not, you can either get a nintendo wi-fi usb connecter(which is crappy, just get the router lol), or buy a nintendo usb cable thnig to have a wired connection.
eday2010
eLto wrote:
10 reasons why the PS3 beats all you nintendo fanboys:

1 Nvidia RSX GPU.
2 Cell CPU with 8 dual-cores
3 Bluetooth
4 Blu-Ray (54 GB storage space)
5 Hard drive
6 wireless controllers with motion sensibilty, ergonomically shaped
7 Memory slots for various types of media
8 Support for 7 controllers
9 Plays all sorts of media (mp3, wav, avi, mpg etc.)
10 It looks tons cooler


Let's go through the list:

1. Won't help make games more fun.
3. Won't help make games more fun.
3. Won't help make games more fun.
4. Won't help make games more fun.
5. Won't help make games more fun.
6. Same ho-hum controller as the previous two consoles, with motion sensing that can't hold a flame to Nintendo's farts.
7. Won't help make games more fun.
8. It may have the Wii beat there, but why only 7? 10 would be better so everyone could play a position on the same team in FIFA or have two teams against each other in NHL 08
9. Won't help make games more fun.
10. Won't help make games more fun.

Sounds like a lot of useless stuff to me in your list. A game can be as pretty as you could possibly imagine, but if it's not fun to play, it isn't worth two shits in a cup.

How about a little list on why the Wii is better than PS3?

1. A more interactive and fun way to play games
2. A wide range of games instead of the same old types of games from previous consoles with nicer graphics
3. It doesn't cost an arm and a leg.
4. It doesn't need all that garbage you listed to sell 17 million consoles in a year.

Enjoy, meatbag.
smokey4life
vonboy wrote:
if you already have a wireless router, your all set. if not, you can either get a nintendo wi-fi usb connecter(which is crappy, just get the router lol), or buy a nintendo usb cable thnig to have a wired connection.


WII's work on wifi? I never knew that one. Now besides the new cool control system they have thats got me even more intrigued now! Twisted Evil Thanks alot everyone whos posted in this topic for making me go out and blow more money during the Christmas season!!!
garionw
eLto wrote:
10 reasons why the PS3 beats all you nintendo fanboys:

1 Nvidia RSX GPU.
2 Cell CPU with 8 dual-cores
3 Bluetooth
4 Blu-Ray (54 GB storage space)
5 Hard drive
6 wireless controllers with motion sensibilty, ergonomically shaped
7 Memory slots for various types of media
8 Support for 7 controllers
9 Plays all sorts of media (mp3, wav, avi, mpg etc.)
10 It looks tons cooler


doesn't the Wii also have blue tooth for the controllers?
QrafTee
smokey4life wrote:
vonboy wrote:
if you already have a wireless router, your all set. if not, you can either get a nintendo wi-fi usb connecter(which is crappy, just get the router lol), or buy a nintendo usb cable thnig to have a wired connection.


WII's work on wifi? I never knew that one. Now besides the new cool control system they have thats got me even more intrigued now! Twisted Evil Thanks alot everyone whos posted in this topic for making me go out and blow more money during the Christmas season!!!

Yeah, you didn't know that? Unlike the Xbox 360, the Wii has it stock so you don't need to buy anything extra (provided you already have a wireless router). It supports WEP/WPA/WPA2 encryption (unfortunately the Nintendo DS does not support WPA/WPA2). I still can't get my hands on a Wii... although I'm holding out until Super Smash Bros. Brawl is released (I already reserved it).
wombatrpgs
I lucked out and got mine on Amazon on release day...

Anyways, I thought there was a time period around three or four months ago where Wiis were relatively common? And does anyone recall a toy that was hard to get for Christmas two years in a row? Makes you wonder whether they'll still be a rarity next year.
QrafTee
wombatrpgs wrote:
I lucked out and got mine on Amazon on release day...

Anyways, I thought there was a time period around three or four months ago where Wiis were relatively common? And does anyone recall a toy that was hard to get for Christmas two years in a row? Makes you wonder whether they'll still be a rarity next year.

Yeah, like 4 months ago, the Wiis were somewhat common to find. Not to say they didn't sell, but it was easier to go into a store and ask if there were any Wiis in stock and not get laughed at.
Ferion
Nintendo wii is very funnu. But i think it can be boring when you play to long. There are many fun games for nintendo. For example Mario. But you can get tired on the games quickly especially Wii Sports which is included when you buy Nintendo Wii.
eday2010
You can get bored with any game on any console if you play too long. It's always been like that.
nepheus
Ha, wii is more expensive at Noel day. How can parents buy for their child Sad?
Whong
eday2010 wrote:
You can get bored with any game on any console if you play too long. It's always been like that.


That's true. But I think that Super Smash Bros Melee is one of the most long lasting games in that that it is extremely fun and I've been playing it since the day it was released til this day. Of course I've sometimes got bored with it but every no and then I again play it with friends for hours and hours. I really hope that Smash Bros Brawl would be even better! Very Happy
wombatrpgs
Ferion wrote:
Nintendo wii is very funnu. But i think it can be boring when you play to long. There are many fun games for nintendo. For example Mario. But you can get tired on the games quickly especially Wii Sports which is included when you buy Nintendo Wii.


I'd wonder if that's a problem with the games or the console itself. Or a property of the console's games... But anyway, there are plenty of games that aren't 'casual' in the sense it doesn't take long time of intense gaming to get over them... Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn could take you about 60 hours without repeat, (i.e., there's plot for the WHOLE time). I understand with things like Wii Sports and Wario Ware they can get very repetive after horus of single player.


nepheus wrote:
Ha, wii is more expensive at Noel day. How can parents buy for their child


It's only expensive on e-bay due to console scalpers... In stores, I'm pretty sure the price is a static $250 USD... As far as I know...?
Whong
[quote="wombatrpgs"]
Ferion wrote:

nepheus wrote:
Ha, wii is more expensive at Noel day. How can parents buy for their child


It's only expensive on e-bay due to console scalpers... In stores, I'm pretty sure the price is a static $250 USD... As far as I know...?


Yeah, atleast here in Finland it's about 260€ which would be equal to 200 - 230$.
Loghete
Whong wrote:
Yeah, atleast here in Finland it's about 260€ which would be equal to 200 - 230$.


Huh?
€260 = $381.99

Though, last time I checked the Wii was €240, which is $352.61.
enygmasoft
Umbrella chronicals rules! It was the best $41 I have ever spent trying to get the game done over the weekend was an amasingly fun exercise. Additionally I finally forked over $50 for the Metroi3, which is the greatest of all the metorid games ever made. I used to have 4 controllers and now I only have 3. The WII has so many great games coming out now that I have to wonder how to kill all of the fun being brought to me by umbrella chronicles and Metroidd.

Next on my list of new goodies is the Mario Galaxy,as well as new battery packs for my WII, which I need to get all of the wii Games as they are released.
QrafTee
So I reserved Super Smash Bros. Brawl awhile ago... but I still don't have a Wii, you guys think I can get one in time for the release? Working in retail makes it a little harder since you can't make purchases while you're on the job.
Whong
QrafTee wrote:
So I reserved Super Smash Bros. Brawl awhile ago... but I still don't have a Wii, you guys think I can get one in time for the release? Working in retail makes it a little harder since you can't make purchases while you're on the job.


I think you can, but lets atleast hope so! Very Happy
eday2010
wombatrpgs wrote:
I understand with things like Wii Sports and Wario Ware they can get very repetive after horus of single player.


those games weren't really meant for single players. Those games were meant more for a group atmosphere, which is where they excel.

enygmasoft wrote:
Umbrella chronicals rules! It was the best $41 I have ever spent trying to get the game done over the weekend was an amasingly fun exercise. Additionally I finally forked over $50 for the Metroi3, which is the greatest of all the metorid games ever made. I used to have 4 controllers and now I only have 3. The WII has so many great games coming out now that I have to wonder how to kill all of the fun being brought to me by umbrella chronicles and Metroidd.

Next on my list of new goodies is the Mario Galaxy,as well as new battery packs for my WII, which I need to get all of the wii Games as they are released.


Super Mario Galaxy is an amazingly fun game. I thought about getting Metroid, but it's more expensive than most games, so I will wait until I see it used for a good price. To me, it's just another First Person Shooter, and I am frankly bored of those.
viviemaster
a wii is great i got the games
wii sports pack(with wii) 250$
red steel50$
maria galaxies 60$
zelda twilight princess 50$
mario and sonic the olimpic games 60$
3 controllers 120$
3 nunchucks 60$
3 jackets(gel) 30$
-------------------------------
totally: 680$ spend on wii + games + controllers
its verry cheap u get an wii + games + controllers for a litlle bit more than a PS3
and its very funny
Chris24
anyone try the game playground? has dodgeball in it, we got 4 people playing and we couldn't put it down. Played for over 2 hours just that one game...
eday2010
Ea Playground was a game Iwas planning on getting, but I saw that it was aimed more for kids, and I already have two party-type games, and don't invite many people over. So I decided against it. Plus I only have two remotes and don't want to buy two more Razz
eday2010
garionw wrote:
eLto wrote:
10 reasons why the PS3 beats all you nintendo fanboys:

1 Nvidia RSX GPU.
2 Cell CPU with 8 dual-cores
3 Bluetooth
4 Blu-Ray (54 GB storage space)
5 Hard drive
6 wireless controllers with motion sensibilty, ergonomically shaped
7 Memory slots for various types of media
8 Support for 7 controllers
9 Plays all sorts of media (mp3, wav, avi, mpg etc.)
10 It looks tons cooler


doesn't the Wii also have blue tooth for the controllers?


Yes it does. eLto is just an idiot.
garionw
eday2010 wrote:
Yes it does. eLto is just an idiot.


And Wireless, motion sensitive controllers - Where is he, I want him to post a follow up?
QrafTee
So... Super Smash Bros. Brawl to be delayed until March 2008... What do you guys think? For me personally, it gives me another month to purcahse a Wii to play a game I've had pre-ordered since September 2007.
mattyj
Wow, I just had my first Wii Experience at a friends house

Just playing the Free Wii Sports game, AND IT WAS AWESOME!!! I loved it!!!

My wife just got a new phone that comes with a Wii, but they were out of stock, we should get it monday, cant wait!!! My kids will love it
wombatrpgs
QrafTee wrote:
So... Super Smash Bros. Brawl to be delayed until March 2008... What do you guys think? For me personally, it gives me another month to purcahse a Wii to play a game I've had pre-ordered since September 2007.


Looking at the site for US still in February, Japanese is still in two weeks. Anyway, whatregion are you in for the delay? Everywhere else usually gets it slower anyway...
Whong
mattyj wrote:
My kids will love it


That's for sure! Very Happy Wii is really so much fun. Wink
Seiji
Looking forward to the SSBB release. I think I will actually be able to pick it up on the release date or at least the day after. I just hope they have them in-stock here.
HoboJoeTLM
The Wii is a fun system, but mostly when you have other people around to play with. Many of the single-player games just fell dull and unexciting to me, while when I'm with friends playing Wii Sports or WarioWare it seems to be a lot more fun. i think the PS3 provides more of a solo experience.
Whong
Seiji wrote:
Looking forward to the SSBB release. I think I will actually be able to pick it up on the release date or at least the day after. I just hope they have them in-stock here.


I heard from a friend that it would be released in Europe or atleast in Finland on the 28th of March 2008. Don't know if that's true or if they will change the date, but that's anyway quite far away... Sad
wombatrpgs
HoboJoeTLM wrote:
The Wii is a fun system, but mostly when you have other people around to play with. Many of the single-player games just fell dull and unexciting to me, while when I'm with friends playing Wii Sports or WarioWare it seems to be a lot more fun. i think the PS3 provides more of a solo experience.


I agree with that completely. There really aren't many good one player games around for the Wii. I'd say the best two out right now are maybe Twilight Princess and the new Fire Emblem. (I really liked that).


Whong wrote:
I heard from a friend that it would be released in Europe or atleast in Finland on the 28th of March 2008. Don't know if that's true or if they will change the date, but that's anyway quite far away...


That's probably true. I wouldn't be too unhappy about it, though. Japan's getting it in two weeks, and the US second week of March. Considereding the normal Europe release dates are usually ages afterwards, that's not too bad. (Although, still, I feel your pain...)
vonboy
having super smash bros brawl delayed another month just gives me more time to play guitar hero 3, so i won't be needing any new games for a while. i still have maio strikers on-line that i havn't played much, have to finish mercury meltdown revolution, get more medals in wii play (won't take too long really) and i have runescape and some gamecube games to play when i get bored.

i was thinking of playing through pikmin one and two again yesterday to relive the glory.
Whong
I'm having so much studies that I wouldn't have time to play SSBB even if it came out next month so I'm not really that uppset about the delay... Smile
eday2010
I'm looking forward to Sega Superstar Tennis more than anything. I haven't been excited about a game's release like this since the days of the Genesis Smile
Bryan_Bezzle
I didn't take time to read the 20 pages of posts so sorry if this has already been talked about...anyone else pumped about Mariokart Wii? I've seen the steering wheel they'll use for it and I'm pretty impressed. Aside from that game I will say that the Wii is a giant stepping stone towards the future of gaming we all envisioned as children.
Whong
Bryan_Bezzle wrote:
I didn't take time to read the 20 pages of posts so sorry if this has already been talked about...anyone else pumped about Mariokart Wii? I've seen the steering wheel they'll use for it and I'm pretty impressed. Aside from that game I will say that the Wii is a giant stepping stone towards the future of gaming we all envisioned as children.


I've not seen the newest videos but I think Mario Kart looks pretty good. Double Dash was a great game and I'm sure this will be even a greater hit especially since you can play it with the steering wheel. Very Happy
QrafTee
Whong wrote:
Bryan_Bezzle wrote:
I didn't take time to read the 20 pages of posts so sorry if this has already been talked about...anyone else pumped about Mariokart Wii? I've seen the steering wheel they'll use for it and I'm pretty impressed. Aside from that game I will say that the Wii is a giant stepping stone towards the future of gaming we all envisioned as children.


I've not seen the newest videos but I think Mario Kart looks pretty good. Double Dash was a great game and I'm sure this will be even a greater hit especially since you can play it with the steering wheel. Very Happy

I'm still iffy on the whole steering wheel concept. I hope you have the option to play normally. Too bad they took out the double drivers thing from Mario Kart Wii, but with 32 tracks (16 new/16 old), I can only think they do, in fact, know what they're doing. Random Wi-fi races, anyone?
Bryan_Bezzle
QrafTee wrote:
Whong wrote:
Bryan_Bezzle wrote:
I didn't take time to read the 20 pages of posts so sorry if this has already been talked about...anyone else pumped about Mariokart Wii? I've seen the steering wheel they'll use for it and I'm pretty impressed. Aside from that game I will say that the Wii is a giant stepping stone towards the future of gaming we all envisioned as children.


I've not seen the newest videos but I think Mario Kart looks pretty good. Double Dash was a great game and I'm sure this will be even a greater hit especially since you can play it with the steering wheel. Very Happy

I'm still iffy on the whole steering wheel concept. I hope you have the option to play normally. Too bad they took out the double drivers thing from Mario Kart Wii, but with 32 tracks (16 new/16 old), I can only think they do, in fact, know what they're doing. Random Wi-fi races, anyone?



I can only imagine...[drool]...[/drool]
Whong
IT HAS HAPPENED!!!!!! SUPER SMASH BROS BRAWL IS OUT IN JAPAN!!!! HEAD TO YOUTUBE TO FIND MANY VIDEOS!!! Very HappyVery HappyVery Happy
ZeroXD
I've been playing it for about a week now and it's been pretty fun. The new story mode is really long (it took me about 10 hours to complete), but it is filled with cinematic movies that encourage you to keep playing. I've almost got all the characters unlocked by playing SSE, but there seems to be a few that aren't unlocked yet.
medievalman26
Why is it that the majority of games for the Wii are horrible?
Bryan_Bezzle
medievalman26 wrote:
Why is it that the majority of games for the Wii are horrible?



I havent played most of the games so I wouldnt know how they are. Im just guessing if the games you played were bad, the only excuse is that this is the first console of the kind and they probably just need more time to master the gameplay of the Wii.
ZeroXD
medievalman26 wrote:
Why is it that the majority of games for the Wii are horrible?


My guess is that many game companies feel the need to buy into the wiimote hype and the lose focus on where it really counts (gameplay).

I believe once many realize the fact that having more wiimote motion sensing included in the game doesn't equal better game, we shall see better games overall.

Also, is it just me or do you guys think nintendo should encourage game developers to include wifi support? Online gaming can make a game title's replayability score rise dramatically.
mattyj
well we finally got out Wii after about 2 months of waiting coz everywhere in Australia basically had sold out of them ...

Going to play it now Very Happy
vonboy
I know have 800,000 japs who got ssbb before me on my hitlist.

anyway, i've heard that the controls in mariokart will be alot like excite truck, which is good because those controls worked preaty good. i'm also really extited about the online battles (mario kart ds had wi-fi races but no wi-fi battles.)

And they realy need to make a pikmin 3 soon. i loved the first 2 to death, and played them both through atleast 5 times.
Whong
ZeroXD wrote:
medievalman26 wrote:
Why is it that the majority of games for the Wii are horrible?


My guess is that many game companies feel the need to buy into the wiimote hype and the lose focus on where it really counts (gameplay).

I believe once many realize the fact that having more wiimote motion sensing included in the game doesn't equal better game, we shall see better games overall.

Also, is it just me or do you guys think nintendo should encourage game developers to include wifi support? Online gaming can make a game title's replayability score rise dramatically.


I agree! That's one major point! Same happens when game designers pay too much attention to graphichs or some other element that makes the game look or feel better, but that doesn't make the game itself any better. Rolling Eyes
Eric002
I like the Wii because yo can do sports and lose weight,you can have fun et be happy and lots of other stuff... My favorite game is Driver : Parallel Lies...even if it is my brothers game I play on it any way....
soulery
Eric002 wrote:
I like the Wii because yo can do sports and lose weight,you can have fun et be happy and lots of other stuff... My favorite game is Driver : Parallel Lies...even if it is my brothers game I play on it any way....


Wii doesn't technically help you lose weight most of the time. Till Wii Fit comes out everywhere at least.

Anyway, I reserved Brawl and cannot wait to get it in March.
wombatrpgs
soulery wrote:
Eric002 wrote:
I like the Wii because yo can do sports and lose weight,you can have fun et be happy and lots of other stuff... My favorite game is Driver : Parallel Lies...even if it is my brothers game I play on it any way....


Wii doesn't technically help you lose weight most of the time. Till Wii Fit comes out everywhere at least.

Anyway, I reserved Brawl and cannot wait to get it in March.


If you play it the right way, it most definitely can. Have you heard of this? http://wiinintendo.net/2007/01/15/wii-sports-experiment-results/

Pretty impressive results, although it is more anecdotal than an actual scientific study. If you had to lose weight, I'd say this would be the way to do it.
Bryan_Bezzle
I cant wait for the brawl tournaments I wonder if only 4 are going to be able to play at a time...
soulery
wombatrpgs wrote:
soulery wrote:
Eric002 wrote:
I like the Wii because yo can do sports and lose weight,you can have fun et be happy and lots of other stuff... My favorite game is Driver : Parallel Lies...even if it is my brothers game I play on it any way....


Wii doesn't technically help you lose weight most of the time. Till Wii Fit comes out everywhere at least.

Anyway, I reserved Brawl and cannot wait to get it in March.


If you play it the right way, it most definitely can. Have you heard of this? http://wiinintendo.net/2007/01/15/wii-sports-experiment-results/

Pretty impressive results, although it is more anecdotal than an actual scientific study. If you had to lose weight, I'd say this would be the way to do it.

Hmm, interesting. I might try that out.
Eric002
Just to say you can lose weight with the Wii because if you do things like Wii Sports and Mario and sOnic at the Olympics and some of the games in Rayman you do quite a lot of exercise and I know somebody who lost weight by doing Mario&Sonic Olympics and Wii Sports !!! so there otherwise the Wii does have some defaults sometimes but otherwise it's great !!
soulery
Boxing is really helping. Laughing
Bryan_Bezzle
The only reason you would lose any weight with wii sports boxing is because you just have to throw your hands wildly to get anything done. I dont like the boxing controls personally.
RidersDX
Bryan_Bezzle wrote:
The only reason you would lose any weight with wii sports boxing is because you just have to throw your hands wildly to get anything done. I dont like the boxing controls personally.

Agreed. It's really fun at first. But after awhile, it can get pretty boring. You are overall doing the same thing over and over. But it's just a game to show the Wii's abilities and nothing else.
QrafTee
Bryan_Bezzle wrote:
The only reason you would lose any weight with wii sports boxing is because you just have to throw your hands wildly to get anything done. I dont like the boxing controls personally.

And that's a bad thing? You don't like working out a little? (although I'm not saying playing Wii Boxing is really working out) I personally find Wii Boxing fun when you're duking it out with a friend and both of you guys throw punches. The alternative is to practice Hapkido (from what we see on TV... ahem... Fight Quest on Discovery) on the beach... which usually ends up with me getting thrown.
eday2010
Bryan_Bezzle wrote:
The only reason you would lose any weight with wii sports boxing is because you just have to throw your hands wildly to get anything done. I dont like the boxing controls personally.


Well, Wii Sports boxing isn't a full-fledged game; It's more like a demo game, as are the rest of the games in Wii Sports. Once a better boxing game comes out, I am sure the controls will be better and it will read the movements of the controls better. So when you throw an uppercut, the on screen fighter will actually throw one. Wii Sports Boxing isn't the greatest game, but it's still fun. And any a game has you doing more than pushing a few buttons to play it, it's a good thing. Nothing wrong with getting a little workout while wasting time playing games Smile
Whong
eday2010 wrote:
Bryan_Bezzle wrote:
The only reason you would lose any weight with wii sports boxing is because you just have to throw your hands wildly to get anything done. I dont like the boxing controls personally.


Well, Wii Sports boxing isn't a full-fledged game; It's more like a demo game, as are the rest of the games in Wii Sports. Once a better boxing game comes out, I am sure the controls will be better and it will read the movements of the controls better. So when you throw an uppercut, the on screen fighter will actually throw one. Wii Sports Boxing isn't the greatest game, but it's still fun. And any a game has you doing more than pushing a few buttons to play it, it's a good thing. Nothing wrong with getting a little workout while wasting time playing games Smile


Yeah that's right, it's more of a demo only, but it is really fun! Me and my friends have had some good laughs while playing it! Very HappyVery HappyVery Happy

Hope there comes some really good boxing or martial arts games for Wii! Smile
RidersDX
QrafTee wrote:
Bryan_Bezzle wrote:
The only reason you would lose any weight with wii sports boxing is because you just have to throw your hands wildly to get anything done. I dont like the boxing controls personally.

And that's a bad thing? You don't like working out a little? (although I'm not saying playing Wii Boxing is really working out) I personally find Wii Boxing fun when you're duking it out with a friend and both of you guys throw punches. The alternative is to practice Hapkido (from what we see on TV... ahem... Fight Quest on Discovery) on the beach... which usually ends up with me getting thrown.

Yeah, playing with my cousin was the only real fun I got out of the game.
J-M-site
the people from nintendo have said Wii apologize (sorry had too was funny)

why well because according to them there haven't really been great games from the third party studios like EA and others .. the are just adjusting the controls from other well known title's a putting them on the wii, therfore we apologize and other better games WILL come ..

it's true the only game practically everybody owns are WII sport's (wich as said earlier is a demo)
and WII play... wich is another demo.. And the only games that have been popular are really only nintendo home made games like mario party and wario smooth moves...

but as they said better games will come and i certainly do hope so.. because i've got a Wii

they only non nintendo game i've bought is Guitar hero.. Cool

as long as games keep coming.. i'll stick to the Wii
Seiji
I wasn't into Wii Sports, really didn't see what the big deal over it was. I'm not crazy about FPS so I didn't care much about a PS3 or 360, even though when I get the money I want to get both of the systems. The games out right now, I'm content with. Waiting for SSBB like the rest of us, and thats going to last me until some other phenomenal game comes out that I've been waiting for. The Wii has held is own thanks to Zelda:TP and Super Mario Galaxy. They may not be Crysis, Bioshock, or Halo 3 but those two are at the top of their genre.
eday2010
I've got a few third party games, which I like quite a bit. NiGHTS (Sega), Sonic and the Secret Rings (Sega), Sega Bass Fishing (Sega), Zack & Wiki (Capcom), Elebits (Komani)...none of these games are anything to sneeze at. Considering how many more Wii's are out there compared to PS3s and 360s, you'd think 3rd party developers would have a little more hustle in learning how to make some great Wii games. We all know that there is a ton of trash out on the Wii (Ninjabread Man, for one); Nintendo is partly to blame for letting everything the licensees make be published for the Wii. If you filter through this poop by reading multiple sources for reviews, you can find plenty of great games.

Personally, I'd rather have 2 or 3 excellent games come out per month than 5 or 10. I can't afford to buy 5 new games per month.
enygmasoft
The Wii Rules, simply because they always have the most fun playing anything using the Wii. I honestly think that the Wii lives up to its name, because it make you want to yell Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!
Seiji
The wait for SSBB was well worth it. The online play just adds to the excitement too. Just when things were starting to look bad for Wii owners, SSBB came and rescued us.
vonboy
Got ssbb last sunday, and its awsome. i've played about 12 or so hours in it, but most of that has been to run through the subspace emmissary to unlock most of the secret charecters. This game is a little slower pased than melee, but it's not bery easy to notice, and you easely forget about it and get into the game. i haven't played any one charecter a whole lot, i just played each one in about 3-5 matches to get a taste of how they control, ect.

oh, and do you allow us to post friend codes here or not? i just wanna make sure so i don't get banned for this.
Fire Boar
If I were to make a guess, I'd say no for reasons that anyone could just track down codes and add them and spam or something. But you can exchange codes through PMs.

All that's a guess though. You might not be allowed to share codes at all here, or you might be allowed to put codes on the forums for all to see. Either way, you won't get automatically banned, worst case scenario is you'll get an AWIT. More likely, a moderator will remove the code from your post and send a friendly PM about it. But you won't get banned or anything.
LostOverThere
Its your code to do what you like. You have to choose to accept or decline the person if they add you.
There's no harm.

I live in Australia so it isn't out yet. But boy do I want it bad...
arquivo
I would like to get both...Wii and Play3... first one for fun and second one for the tecnology...and i would like to get the money too...hehe
I think we are lucky, we just win with this "fight" of games... just bring us more and more...
Whong
arquivo wrote:
I would like to get both...Wii and Play3... first one for fun and second one for the tecnology...and i would like to get the money too...hehe
I think we are lucky, we just win with this "fight" of games... just bring us more and more...


Heh, that's true! Wonder what the next Nintendo and Playstation entertainment systems will be like... Confused Very Happy
QrafTee
arquivo wrote:
I would like to get both...Wii and Play3... first one for fun and second one for the tecnology...and i would like to get the money too...hehe
I think we are lucky, we just win with this "fight" of games... just bring us more and more...

I'm getting both too, but not for those reasons. Pretty much the PS3 has functionality and is a Blu-ray player to boot. The Wii is just intuitive which is good. And I also have a PC if it comes down to that. I still need to save up money for the PS3 and the rest of the PC parts.
vonboy
well, wiiware came out yesterday-ish in japan, so now theres a flurry of videos on youtube showing off the games that are currently out for the service, and theres sites having reviews and impressions on all the games and stuff.

it doesn't come out over here till may. i'm thinking of getting lostwinds and that world of goo game.
eday2010
YouTube might actually be of use now. I'll have to check those videos out since I am eager for WiiWare to arrive next month. Sometimes the simplest games and the 2D games are the best ones. I'd still like to know where we are supposed to store all these games I might buy Smile
QrafTee
Out of the new Wiiware titles, I'm interested in playing the new Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles town building game. I like the simplicity of it because I don't have as much time as I used to with school and work now. With Crisis Core out and Rings of Fate, this year is going to bring in a lot of Final Fantasy love... after Crisis Core I can't help but imagine a remade Final Fantasy VII, it would look beautiful on the PSP, Wii, or PS3... seriously...
ddukki
QrafTee wrote:
Out of the new Wiiware titles, I'm interested in playing the new Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles town building game. I like the simplicity of it because I don't have as much time as I used to with school and work now...
My Life As a King looks awesome. You take the perspective of the King and you get to manage the town, and then the quests certain "heroes" carry out for you. Awesome idea.
vonboy
life of a king seems a little too shallow to be 1500 pionts though. if the game was 1000 points, and it included the downloadable races and outfits with it without having to pay extra, i would probably buy it than.

i'm also now interested in strongbad's cool game for attractive people Razz

EDIT: It's looking like the north american release of wiiware is going to be of far better quality than the japan launch. Theres almost nothing in the japan release that interests me, unless pokemon ranch is like 500 points or less.
eday2010
I am looking forward to WiiWare next month, but if games are that expensive (1500 points), then I will not be downloading more than a couple of them. $15 for a game where I don't have a physical copy? I don't think so, Tim.
vonboy
i think my life as a king is the only wiiware game to be more than 1000 wiipoints. i think every other announced wiiware game will be anywhaere from 500-1000 points.

EDIT: it was also just announced last week that europe will finally be getting brawl in june. forgot the exact date, but i think they said around the 20th.
enygmasoft
eday2010 wrote:
I've got a few third party games, which I like quite a bit. NiGHTS (r(Komani)...none of these games are anything to sneeze at. Considering how many more Wii's are out there compared to PS3s and 360s, you'd think 3rd party developers would have a little more hustle in learning how to make some great Wii games. We all know that there is a ton of trash out on the Wii (Ninjabread Man, for one); Nintendo is partly to blame for letting everything the licensees make be published for the Wii. If you filter through this poop by reading multiple sources for reviews, you can find plenty of great games.

Personally, I'd rather have 2 or 3 excellent games come out per month than 5 or 10. I can't afford to buy 5 new games per month.


That a very sad reality, now the Wii too much clutter to go thru when playing games. Quality suffers in echange for quantaty, but you don't have to shell out useless cash on less than steller games.
QrafTee
enygmasoft wrote:
eday2010 wrote:
I've got a few third party games, which I like quite a bit. NiGHTS (r(Komani)...none of these games are anything to sneeze at. Considering how many more Wii's are out there compared to PS3s and 360s, you'd think 3rd party developers would have a little more hustle in learning how to make some great Wii games. We all know that there is a ton of trash out on the Wii (Ninjabread Man, for one); Nintendo is partly to blame for letting everything the licensees make be published for the Wii. If you filter through this poop by reading multiple sources for reviews, you can find plenty of great games.

Personally, I'd rather have 2 or 3 excellent games come out per month than 5 or 10. I can't afford to buy 5 new games per month.


That a very sad reality, now the Wii too much clutter to go thru when playing games. Quality suffers in echange for quantaty, but you don't have to shell out useless cash on less than steller games.

Nintendo isn't doing a good job to filter out the trash. They seem to be giving any game a Seal of Quality to pump up their number of games out for their console.
Whong
QrafTee wrote:
enygmasoft wrote:
eday2010 wrote:
I've got a few third party games, which I like quite a bit. NiGHTS (r(Komani)...none of these games are anything to sneeze at. Considering how many more Wii's are out there compared to PS3s and 360s, you'd think 3rd party developers would have a little more hustle in learning how to make some great Wii games. We all know that there is a ton of trash out on the Wii (Ninjabread Man, for one); Nintendo is partly to blame for letting everything the licensees make be published for the Wii. If you filter through this poop by reading multiple sources for reviews, you can find plenty of great games.

Personally, I'd rather have 2 or 3 excellent games come out per month than 5 or 10. I can't afford to buy 5 new games per month.


That a very sad reality, now the Wii too much clutter to go thru when playing games. Quality suffers in echange for quantaty, but you don't have to shell out useless cash on less than steller games.

Nintendo isn't doing a good job to filter out the trash. They seem to be giving any game a Seal of Quality to pump up their number of games out for their console.


That's really sad. When think eg. of Pokemon Battle Revolution, many were waiting for it but found out to be quite a flop... Sad

When compared to Pokemon Stadium 1 and 2 Battle revolution is has gone far back in development. I doens't have a good multiplayer possibility, the WiFi is slow, no rental pokemon to battle with and no minigames. All these things are missing in Battle Revolution...

Hope Nintendo would really start making excellent games as before. Of course it has, but they are few.
vonboy
well, the nintendo channel was released yesterday (5 days early, it was supposed to come out along side wiiware), and it's pretty cool.

when i started it up, it asked me if i wanted to participate in a data sending program. apparently, they will collect what games you play at what times and for how long and stuff like that for research.

next it showed a digest video of different videos you could watch on the channel right now. there were about 50 videos you could watch on the main menu thing, but you can also look for any game released on wii or ds and watch a video('s) for them, which is quiet nice.

you can "recommend" any game you have played for over an hour by filling out a short poll. it ask what gender are you, how old you are, how much you liked it, who do you think it will appeal to the most (anyone or gamers) who the game is more built for (casual or hardcore, i took this as is the game easy for casuals or hard like what hardcores like) and if the game was more fun alone or with other people.

finally, they have ds demos that you can dowload onto the wii, transfer onto the ds, and play until you turn the ds off (pretty much the ds download stations at stores, but at your home). they had 8 demos, but i only tried out ninja gaiden: dragon sword, and it's awsome. it's only one level, but you unlock a harder difficulty after you beat it once.

i think that pretty much sums up the channel, if ya'll have further questions, feel free to ask.
wombatrpgs
Hm, I haven't booted up the Wii in ages... I better get the channel now. I guess I'll post how I like it after trying it out a bit. (I'm amazed how quickly I shook off the initial SSBB addiction)
marc781
Just got my Wii together with Super Smash Bros Brawl, Mario Kart Wii and Mario and Sonic at the Olympics Games. Wii RULES!!!
Seiji
I haven't played my Wii in months, things have been so slow I went and bought an 8800GS, so now I can game on my PC. Hopefully some light shines on the Wii soon, SSBB was the last bright spot I saw.
QrafTee
Seiji wrote:
I haven't played my Wii in months, things have been so slow I went and bought an 8800GS, so now I can game on my PC. Hopefully some light shines on the Wii soon, SSBB was the last bright spot I saw.

Man, if you're going to choose the PC over the Wii at least upgrade to a better card like a 8800 GTS or higher. Or wait for the 9900 GTX... I am.
eday2010
Seiji wrote:
I haven't played my Wii in months, things have been so slow I went and bought an 8800GS, so now I can game on my PC. Hopefully some light shines on the Wii soon, SSBB was the last bright spot I saw.


I guess you passed over Mario Kart Wii, which is fabulously fantastic. Pretty addicting, if I say so myself.
vonboy
yes, the online in mario kart wii is very good and very addicting. i already have about 1200 wins and 500 losses accumulated online in this game. (that doesn't mean i raced in 1700 races though, it stands for how many people you have won or lost too, so in a 12 player race, you will get 11 wins if you get in first place.)
Whong
vonboy wrote:
yes, the online in mario kart wii is very good and very addicting. i already have about 1200 wins and 500 losses accumulated online in this game. (that doesn't mean i raced in 1700 races though, it stands for how many people you have won or lost too, so in a 12 player race, you will get 11 wins if you get in first place.)


I've played Mario Kart on Wii and it' really great! I haven't tried the online game mode but it sounds really good! Can battle mode be played online, too?
eday2010
Battle mode is especially fun online. You can play it with just you against whoever is online, or if you have a friend over, you both can play the battle mode online. it's really fun.
Whong
eday2010 wrote:
Battle mode is especially fun online. You can play it with just you against whoever is online, or if you have a friend over, you both can play the battle mode online. it's really fun.



Are there many different battle modes in the game like in Double Dash there were Shine thief, Bob-omb blast and balloon battle... does the new Mario Kart have these or some other battle modes?
wombatrpgs
It's odd... I never owned Double Dash, but I played multiplayer quite frequently... Though only the Bob-omb Blast mode...
Whong
I love the shine thief in Double Dash, there's just something very addicting in it. Especially in Luigi's Mansion it's real fun since the course is so large with three floors. Very Happy
wombatrpgs
That's the one I'd always play the Bob-omb Blast on... The massive-ness of that level makes it very nice. Bombarding people from the top floor... Classic.
Whong
wombatrpgs wrote:
That's the one I'd always play the Bob-omb Blast on... The massive-ness of that level makes it very nice. Bombarding people from the top floor... Classic.


Yep!!! That's the thing, it's really so fun to play in the Mansion stage. Very Happy Does the new Mario Kart Wii have this stage? It would be a real shame if it didn't, it was one of my favourite courses. Smile

How many stages are there in the battle mode for Mario Kart Wii???
ASAGROUP
Which has better graphics between the Wii, PS3, and Xbox 360
speeDemon
wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

yup!!
thats right! we all want a wii , i dont really know why it is named so though..

Nintendo was my all time favourite, well, yaa, i didnt really buy anything else..!! but i still think that nintendo is d best.

I have a N64 (its old, but i bought it during its release) when i ws 4. well, ma sis played it, n i usually watched, but afterwards i did play a lot. Ijust love zelda ocrina of time!! i dont think any game can match that game..... ah....... but well, these days uv got more realastic games, but i still wanto stay in wonderland@ Very Happy @


wii is the unbeatable console, because of its low cost gaming experience, sesors n remotes, options, variety, looks, wi-fi connectivity and what not!

I wud love to buy Wii, but unfortunately i cant.. Crying or Very sad

but still, i would always love to play the newer versions of thoes old games.. zelda, mario, yoshi's story, didi kong racing (or mario kart), Banjo kazooie, etc etc etc!

I really wish that i win a competition or something and get one..... pls god pls give me a wii!
QrafTee
ASAGROUP wrote:
Which has better graphics between the Wii, PS3, and Xbox 360

In terms of the graphics card, the 360 supposedly has the best one with the PS3's following behind it. The main reason for this is the PS3's graphics card isn't completely optimized for consoles which seems retroactive for such a high-end console.
Whong
QrafTee wrote:
ASAGROUP wrote:
Which has better graphics between the Wii, PS3, and Xbox 360

In terms of the graphics card, the 360 supposedly has the best one with the PS3's following behind it. The main reason for this is the PS3's graphics card isn't completely optimized for consoles which seems retroactive for such a high-end console.


Maybe so, but the graphics on the PS3 look much better than those of the 360. PS3 has even photorealistic graphics in some games! Very Happy
enygmasoft
Whong wrote:
QrafTee wrote:
ASAGROUP wrote:
Which has better graphics between the Wii, PS3, and Xbox 360

In terms of the graphics card, the 360 supposedly has the best one with the PS3's following behind it. The main reason for this is the PS3's graphics card isn't completely optimized for consoles which seems retroactive for such a high-end console.


Maybe so, but the graphics on the PS3 look much better than those of the 360. PS3 has even photorealistic graphics in some games! Very Happy


I find things very difficult to place because I own the PS3 for all the right reasons, which are that I feel in love with the whole machine, not just its gaming features, which technically are below the X-box 360. However, it does games kickass amounts of eye goodiness. I also liked everything else it can do, meaning I like the add ons to this system, for the backward compatability with both ps1 and ps2. and let us not forget that this system plays blue ray goodies as well. I use it more than my PC since it can surf the net as well.
Seiji
I would figure that the 360 would have better graphics but if you want the best graphics a PC would be better. High-end gaming cards like the HD 4850 is only $200.
b3no
Has any one here got thier wii modded?

And if so is there any issues they have had.

..i am thinking about modding mine, at this stage im unsure :/
wombatrpgs
I haven't but I've been interested in it. Though I haven't followed through for the reasons mentioned. ...Any good sites on the subject out there?
Whong
enygmasoft wrote:
Whong wrote:
QrafTee wrote:
ASAGROUP wrote:
Which has better graphics between the Wii, PS3, and Xbox 360

In terms of the graphics card, the 360 supposedly has the best one with the PS3's following behind it. The main reason for this is the PS3's graphics card isn't completely optimized for consoles which seems retroactive for such a high-end console.


Maybe so, but the graphics on the PS3 look much better than those of the 360. PS3 has even photorealistic graphics in some games! Very Happy


I find things very difficult to place because I own the PS3 for all the right reasons, which are that I feel in love with the whole machine, not just its gaming features, which technically are below the X-box 360. However, it does games kickass amounts of eye goodiness. I also liked everything else it can do, meaning I like the add ons to this system, for the backward compatability with both ps1 and ps2. and let us not forget that this system plays blue ray goodies as well. I use it more than my PC since it can surf the net as well.


The PS3 has very many excellent features. The blu-ray playback option is really great when you think of just blu-ray players that cost nearly as much as PS3... Rolling Eyes
QrafTee
Seiji wrote:
I would figure that the 360 would have better graphics but if you want the best graphics a PC would be better. High-end gaming cards like the HD 4850 is only $200.

Yes, but keep in mind that's for the card itself... there's no comparison between just a single part of a PC to a whole console... that doesn't make ANY sense. Add in the CPU, the RAM, the motherboard, the case (yes, you need a case), the PSU, the optical drive(s), the peripherals, and the monitor... Well maybe not the monitor if you have a high-def TV, but then you're robbing the true potential of having a nice graphics card. On another note, the HD 4850 is NOT a high-end card, it's actually a lower-to-mid-range card.
mgorelkin
Anyone here try using the wii remote on their PC? My understanding is that it's bluetooth, so it should work. Has anyone figured out how to make a regular joystick out of it so that it works with regular games?

Max
QrafTee
mgorelkin wrote:
Anyone here try using the wii remote on their PC? My understanding is that it's bluetooth, so it should work. Has anyone figured out how to make a regular joystick out of it so that it works with regular games?

Max

It can't be used as a regular joystick because the Wii Remote--by itself--does not read movements 1:1, it may be possible with the MotionPlus though. As to hacking it for the PC; it has been done and used as a pointing device as far as I know, nothing too groundbreaking with using it with current games.
rs3beta
yeah i have a wii to and its pretty good but my xbox 360 kills the wii off so i play 360 more but i have loads of games for the wii like super smash brawl and stuff and theyre brilliant but i prefer my 360 more
eday2010
I own a Wii with a pile of games. I love the Wii and the games I have for it. I do want to get a 360 though. Not because of the graphics (because graphics don't matter), but because there are some games on it I want to play. GTA IV is one of them. Sonic Unleashed is another. I know it is cmoing out on the Wii, but the Wii version will be different fro mthe 360 and PS3 version. And the other game off the top of my head that I want to play is Legends of Wrestlemania. Xbox Live Arcade also looks very enticing. I have no clue which system I would play more between the two. I guess it depends on what I feel like playing.
Hunterofevil
ASAGROUP wrote:
Which has better graphics between the Wii, PS3, and Xbox 360


Definately PS3 if you ask me
But when you start considering the fun-amount
well i played on a wii yesterday for the irst time and
man did we have fun.... well the fact i had some nostalgic feelings towards
mario kart racing (one of my first fav games lol) maybe
gave it an extra push ...
But if you're in a group of people WII rocks
simple to play with and fun for all (girls and boys, old and young)
AND its cheaper !!! so i'd might consider buying it
QrafTee
eday2010 wrote:
I own a Wii with a pile of games. I love the Wii and the games I have for it. I do want to get a 360 though. Not because of the graphics (because graphics don't matter), but because there are some games on it I want to play. GTA IV is one of them. Sonic Unleashed is another. I know it is cmoing out on the Wii, but the Wii version will be different fro mthe 360 and PS3 version. And the other game off the top of my head that I want to play is Legends of Wrestlemania. Xbox Live Arcade also looks very enticing. I have no clue which system I would play more between the two. I guess it depends on what I feel like playing.

If you were to choose between a 360 or PS3, get a PS3 no doubt. But if you want to get a 360 anyway, the Arcade model is going to drop to $199 sometime in September... or that's how the rumor goes...
Nameless
eday2010 wrote:
Not because of the graphics (because graphics don't matter), but because there are some games on it I want to play.

It's actually kind of sad people feel the need to add these qualifiers.
QrafTee
Nameless wrote:
eday2010 wrote:
Not because of the graphics (because graphics don't matter), but because there are some games on it I want to play.

It's actually kind of sad people feel the need to add these qualifiers.

Not sad, but it's also incorrect to say graphics don't matter entirely... Otherwise you might as well play a text-based game.
mewmewlazlo
Since the Wii came out, Animal Crossing City Folks is my favorite game. As a Zelda hater, ironicly my favorite game out is Twilight Princess. I just love the storyline, the secenary of Hyrule, and the music is extreamly fitting for the game. I can not wait for the rpg Pokemon game like D/P to come out on the Wii system. Or F-Zero as well. Nintendo better make a F-Zero on the Wii!
QrafTee
mewmewlazlo wrote:
Since the Wii came out, Animal Crossing City Folks is my favorite game. As a Zelda hater, ironicly my favorite game out is Twilight Princess. I just love the storyline, the secenary of Hyrule, and the music is extreamly fitting for the game. I can not wait for the rpg Pokemon game like D/P to come out on the Wii system. Or F-Zero as well. Nintendo better make a F-Zero on the Wii!

Your favorite game is Animal Crossing: City Folks? Is that possible since the game isn't out yet? That's like saying Spore is my favorite game, but it's not because it's not out yet; but I am very excited to try it out.
wombatrpgs
QrafTee wrote:

Not sad, but it's also incorrect to say graphics don't matter entirely... Otherwise you might as well play a text-based game.


I take offense to that!

...Anyway, to change the subject... Does anyone else think Super Smash Brothers Brawl hasn't really made the impact everyone thought it would? I mean, sure, everyone played it for maybe a month. It's sort of old news now. Interestingly enough, I think people talked about it more during prerelease than after it came out. Online doesn't seem to be as fun as everybody thought. Lag's a killer. Great game, but it seems like it died fast.
enygmasoft
wombatrpgs wrote:
QrafTee wrote:

Not sad, but it's also incorrect to say graphics don't matter entirely... Otherwise you might as well play a text-based game.


I take offense to that!

...Anyway, to change the subject... Does anyone else think Super Smash Brothers Brawl hasn't really made the impact everyone thought it would? I mean, sure, everyone played it for maybe a month. It's sort of old news now. Interestingly enough, I think people talked about it more during prerelease than after it came out. Online doesn't seem to be as fun as everybody thought. Lag's a killer. Great game, but it seems like it died fast.


I still don't see why there is such a popular following for a fighting game that gets the fighting game wrong on so many levels. I have never been a fan of those.
QrafTee
I still play it, but I've given up on the online multi-player so I play it with my friends when I go to their house or they come to mine. I like these types of games because it's not the same ol' "Fighting Game." Some people like the Hadokens, the Soul Edges/Caliburs, Megaman's Buster, Wolverine's Drill Claw, or Sub-Zero's fatalities, but some people like Mario's fireball, Ness' PK Flash, and Fox's Fire Fox... different tastes, y'know?
xjuniorx
I own a Wii and its my favorite and the best system right now!
wombatrpgs
enygmasoft wrote:
I still don't see why there is such a popular following for a fighting game that gets the fighting game wrong on so many levels. I have never been a fan of those.


Probably because it really isn't a pure fighter. It's not so much a competitive game so much as a party game, much like everything else Nintendo makes... Everyone's played it, and you can pick it up in a few minutes. Though I'll admit the serious gameplay took a hit since SSBM.
Seiji
QrafTee wrote:
Seiji wrote:
I would figure that the 360 would have better graphics but if you want the best graphics a PC would be better. High-end gaming cards like the HD 4850 is only $200.

Yes, but keep in mind that's for the card itself... there's no comparison between just a single part of a PC to a whole console... that doesn't make ANY sense. Add in the CPU, the RAM, the motherboard, the case (yes, you need a case), the PSU, the optical drive(s), the peripherals, and the monitor... Well maybe not the monitor if you have a high-def TV, but then you're robbing the true potential of having a nice graphics card. On another note, the HD 4850 is NOT a high-end card, it's actually a lower-to-mid-range card.


Your right, cpu, PSU, and all that stuff run for a lot. HD 4850 I thought was a pretty good card, of course most PC games work better with NVIDIA. I have an 8800GS and it plays any game I throw it on the PC, and I heard console gaming graphics weren't as good as the 8800 series and higher.

You could be right though, I'm not an expert on the topic.
QrafTee
Seiji wrote:
QrafTee wrote:
Seiji wrote:
I would figure that the 360 would have better graphics but if you want the best graphics a PC would be better. High-end gaming cards like the HD 4850 is only $200.

Yes, but keep in mind that's for the card itself... there's no comparison between just a single part of a PC to a whole console... that doesn't make ANY sense. Add in the CPU, the RAM, the motherboard, the case (yes, you need a case), the PSU, the optical drive(s), the peripherals, and the monitor... Well maybe not the monitor if you have a high-def TV, but then you're robbing the true potential of having a nice graphics card. On another note, the HD 4850 is NOT a high-end card, it's actually a lower-to-mid-range card.


Your right, cpu, PSU, and all that stuff run for a lot. HD 4850 I thought was a pretty good card, of course most PC games work better with NVIDIA. I have an 8800GS and it plays any game I throw it on the PC, and I heard console gaming graphics weren't as good as the 8800 series and higher.

You could be right though, I'm not an expert on the topic.

Well you are right--BTW, the HD4850 is now 150 after MIR. The main weakness of all consoles is that they aren't upgradeable in the GPU-sense. The 360 certainly cannot compete with the HD4850 and the HD4850 IS a good card; it has the best price/performance ratio of all cards currently out.

I was just making a point that you can't compare a whole console to a single part of a PC. I've built 4--building two more currently--and it's not cheap especially if you want to play games.
miquelxx
well i have a wii and i love it unfortunatly i just hve wii sports but im getting zelda twilight princess Very Happy it just rox
enygmasoft
miquelxx wrote:
well i have a wii and i love it unfortunatly i just hve wii sports but im getting zelda twilight princess Very Happy it just rox


Yes it most certainly does rule, since The legend of Zelda Twilight Princes was the biggest reason I had to get the WII. Zelda has been the only reason to get any Nintendo Sytem since it came out on the Nintendo. Great times.
weableandbob
Wii's pwn every other current generation system =)
eday2010
weableandbob wrote:
Wii's pwn every other current generation system =)


Too bad "pwn" isn't a real word. Perhaps you could try speaking proper English.
Whong
What do you guys think about the upcoming Tales Of Symphonia 2 game? I think it looks pretty great and hope it would come soon! Very Happy
wombatrpgs
Looks alright... I've never been too big a fan of the series, but the Wii definitely needs a few good titles... Hasn't been much since SSBB, really...
catscratches
The Wii suffers the same fault as the other next-gen consoles, the games are all boring crap.
QrafTee
catscratches wrote:
The Wii suffers the same fault as the other next-gen consoles, the games are all boring crap.

To each his own, although I haven't had time to play all the games so I can't say whether I can argue with your opinion either.
wombatrpgs
Well, still, if the only games you've played are boring then you can draw an opinion. I certainly haven't played everything, but I've played enough to agree with catscratches... I'll stick to old-school games for the time being.
eday2010
The Wii has a lot of garbage games, and games that are no fun, but it also has a good number that are great fun. Mario Galaxy, Zelda, Lego Indiana Jones, Mario Kart, Super Smash Bros, Zack & Wiki...all are great fun. Every console in every generation has boring and bad games. You just need t obe selective in the ones you buy.
vpdragon0
Yeah, i've tried a lot of wii games now, they all eventually get kinda old. i haven't really seen a good game that i'm looking forward to. I like the gameplay of it, but good games don't come by it too often.
msfuture
I have an wii to and play much on it.
I still like it after 1 year playing on it.

I got:
Super mario galaxy
SSBB
wii sports )duhh)
The legend of Zelde Twilight Princess
Metroid Prime 3 Corruption
Traume center second opnion
wombatrpgs
Hm, actually, that's one game I haven't acquired... How is Corruption anyway...? I haven't really played any of the series since the first game. Guess it just wasn't my sort of game...
msfuture
Hmm its a 1 person shooter in the future.
So if u like killing aliens with future guns (like halo)
Than its a game for u

The bad thing is there's no multiplayer in it so you cant play with friends
Whong
catscratches wrote:
The Wii suffers the same fault as the other next-gen consoles, the games are all boring crap.


One reason to it that players are all the time want better and better games. I remember when many loved to play Ice Climbers and Super Mario Bros which were really simple in everyway, yet they were the top games of those days. Now even games like Super Mario Galaxy and Smash Bros Brawl don't always seem good enough... I guess we shouldn't be too critcal about the flaws of games since they are much better than what they used to be. Wink
LostOverThere
The Conduit seems like it's going to be awesome! I can't wait for it to come out, fast, smooth, and online multiplayer. Hooray! Though, the art direction seems very loose.
enygmasoft
LostOverThere wrote:
The Conduit seems like it's going to be awesome! I can't wait for it to come out, fast, smooth, and online multiplayer. Hooray! Though, the art direction seems very loose.


Yes It does appear to be a great title for any quality gamer to have good times.
Nebenator
eLto wrote:
10 reasons why the PS3 beats all you nintendo fanboys:

1 Nvidia RSX GPU.
2 Cell CPU with 8 dual-cores
3 Bluetooth
4 Blu-Ray (54 GB storage space)
5 Hard drive
6 wireless controllers with motion sensibilty, ergonomically shaped
7 Memory slots for various types of media
8 Support for 7 controllers
9 Plays all sorts of media (mp3, wav, avi, mpg etc.)
10 It looks tons cooler

I know you people like nintendo, and don't get me wrong, so did I, until the N64 came out, still using cartridges. Zelda was GREAT, Goldeneye was GREAT, perfect dark was GREAT, and hell, even diddy kong racing was fun, but nintendo seems to always aim for children and new playing styles, whereas sony (and microsuck) aim for the mainstream masses of multimedia, and therefore get way better performing consoles.


Anyway, that's my opinion, and your opinions are yours. Nothing I can do about it.


You're funny. I've hacked into my wii, and turned it into a media player. It plays everything your precious ps3 does (except for blue-ray, obviously), the ps3 is overpriced. I'm actually considering getting one, if the price lowers.... a lot. The wii has much better motion sensors, appeals to more age groups, and also has an sd port. Oh, and and although it doesn't respect independent game makers as much as it should, it still has better games.
eday2010
Funny isn't a word I would use to describe elto. Lame seems more appropriate Smile
jackstealth
The Ps3 and the wii are very different. To me the wii is more for casual gamers and familys. It is perfect for this target audience. Howerver the Ps3 is for more hardcore gamers. I have both Razz
QrafTee
jackstealth wrote:
The Ps3 and the wii are very different. To me the wii is more for casual gamers and familys. It is perfect for this target audience. Howerver the Ps3 is for more hardcore gamers. I have both Razz

LittleBigPlanet will be the PS3's bridge to the casual audience while still being attentive to the hardcore gamers... I'm thinking this, it'll be the hardcore to makes the high-quality levels while the casuals will--for the most part--stick with playing levels.
Whong
jackstealth wrote:
The Ps3 and the wii are very different. To me the wii is more for casual gamers and familys. It is perfect for this target audience. Howerver the Ps3 is for more hardcore gamers. I have both Razz


That's quite a good way of putting it. PS3 has a lot of functions that will appeal to many hardcore players but the Wii is aimed at families. Smile I personally like the Wii better. Very Happy
enygmasoft
[quote="Whong"]
jackstealth wrote:
The Ps3 and the wii are very different. To me the wii is more for casual gamers and familys. It is perfect for this target audience. Howerver the Ps3 is for more hardcore gamers. I have both Razz


That's quite a good way of putting it. PS3 has a lot of functions that will appeal to many hardcore players but the Wii is aimed at families. Smile I personally like the Wii better. Very Happy[/quotee]

I find it hard to argue that Wii is more family oriented platform, because the argument is a mute point. However, the gods do shine once in a while for us hardcore gamers, which why I fell in love with resident evil, one of the few games series to be done right.
Starrfoxx
I've read off of ZDnet that Blu-ray is dying. It's not catching on, and the struggling economy isn't helping. I'm curious to see how that affects the PS3.

I have a Wii myself. We got it a few months ago, and were excited to finally get one. Now, though, it seems like the novelty has worn off because you can find them anywhere now. You can even get the Wii Fit, which used to be hard to find.

We don't have many games, but the ones we do get we try to make sure we are getting a good one that will be great for the family. Some of the Wii Games that are on our list for Xmas hopefully are:

Samba de Amigo
Carnival Games
Carnival Games Mini Golf
Cooking Mama
Boom Blox
Playground
Wii Music
Lego Star Wars Complete
Game Party 2
Rock Band 2 (although we may hold on this, and get it along with an Xbox 360.)
wombatrpgs
Hey, I didn't realize Samba de Amigo was coming out for the Wii. Interesting. Anyway, I don't intend to get it, but I didn't realize that series was still active.
msfuture
Anyone is looking out for the game The Conduit?
Its coming out next year at Q2 2009

Have a look here ;P It have very nice graphics and btw its a shooter for the wii
http://wii.ign.com/articles/867/867498p1.html
enygmasoft
msfuture wrote:
Anyone is looking out for the game The Conduit?
Its coming out next year at Q2 2009

Have a look here ;P It have very nice graphics and btw its a shooter for the wii
http://wii.ign.com/articles/867/867498p1.html


I appears to be an excellent way to kill a very long weekend on this?
msfuture
Yea indeed it is im still waiting for this game ;P
Kunkstar7
I was reading one of the articles about that game, and it brought up the point about the audience level that most games are suited for. I find thats one of the genres that the Wii lacks, games that are aimed for a more mature audience. If they would expand their line to include those games, then they would have an even bigger take on the market. But as it stands, they focus too much on younger audiences.
enygmasoft
Kunkstar7 wrote:
I was reading one of the articles about that game, and it brought up the point about the audience level that most games are suited for. I find thats one of the genres that the Wii lacks, games that are aimed for a more mature audience. If they would expand their line to include those games, then they would have an even bigger take on the market. But as it stands, they focus too much on younger audiences.


I find that a very difficult argument to make becuase you are right, since both of my kids live on the Wii, both of which are 5 and 6. I use only when Zeelda came out and Metroid 3 and resident evil 4 and mario galaxy came out. I dont live on it playing super smash bros.
enygmasoft
Starrfoxx wrote:
I've read off of ZDnet that Blu-ray is dying. It's not catching on, and the struggling economy isn't helping. I'm curious to see how that affects the PS3.

I have a Wii myself. We got it a few months ago, and were excited to finally get one. Now, though, it seems like the novelty has worn off because you can find them anywhere now. You can even get the Wii Fit, which used to be hard to find.

We don't have many games, but the ones we do get we try to make sure we are getting a good one that will be great for the family. Some of the Wii Games that ae on our list for Xmas hopefully are:

Samba de Amigo
Carnival Games
Carnival Games Mini Golf
Cooking Mama
Boom Blox
Playground
Wii Music
Lego Star Wars Complete
Game Party 2
Rock Band 2 (although we may hold on this, and get it along with an Xbox 360.)


I can understand why the bluray medium is having such a hard catching, for one thing our economic crawl hurts everyone, which means it harder to pay the bills today, which means there is less fun money, but the biggest hurdle to getting wide acceptance is the fact tThat every one thinks all tvs are created equal which is never the case, no one ever upgrades at tv theay will replace it if its broken. TV's are immortal and I have never gotten rid of a tv because it has broken and I am 27, My father still hast the same tv that used to run his VCR when this medium was god, this hurts blueray sales because of the cost of the tv need to do this eye candy justice, and what would you do if you got a 65" projection screen TV in the VCR heydays when when 480i used to be HD, which setI you back $4999. The still works great another nail in the blueray coffin, Sadly the tv is the reason why i wont be surprised to see this always struggle against DVD, which will gladly fill your oldschool tv in the same fashion as the day you bought it. That is also another problem is that there is visible differece between dvd and bluray video if you use an old school tv, since the blueray player has be dvd quality resolutions in order to fit any old school tv, making the upgrade a mute point if you cant afford to get both.
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The PS3 is backwards compatible with every tv, so the is a visible eye quality differnce regardless of the screen being used so that serves as it own saving grace, PS3 all support SD video, so you dont need to upgrade the tv feel the difference that the ps3 system serves. making it a far cheaper ordeaL
wombatrpgs
Interesting point. There is a limit to which we can improve graphics, however, and I still fail to see what ultimate realism brings anyway. The fact remains that other technologies are quite good enough for most people, myself included.
enygmasoft
wombatrpgs wrote:
Interesting point. There is a limit to which we can improve graphics, however, and I still fail to see what ultimate realism brings anyway. The fact remains that other technologies are quite good enough for most people, myself included.


Technology getting better, bluray is certainly getting close, but that is always right. I have always been and audio and videophile. I am only happy that I got those toys back when I used to work. Unrmployement pays the bills and nothing more. There has been no toy money in a long time, sadly. I honestly feel it would be in blurays best interest to include DVD copies in the same way HD-DVD used to do. That will help out quite a bit because supports both formats making the purchase less daunting.
wombatrpgs
Is there anything in Blu-Ray that isn't DVD anyway? It would seem that a single Blu-Ray wouldn't sell very well anyway, just because people don't have as many players as DVD.
QrafTee
wombatrpgs wrote:
Is there anything in Blu-Ray that isn't DVD anyway? It would seem that a single Blu-Ray wouldn't sell very well anyway, just because people don't have as many players as DVD.

Metal Gear Solid 4? Movies with uncompressed audio/video? The entire season of South Park can be put on a single dual-layer Blu-ray.
wombatrpgs
QrafTee wrote:

Metal Gear Solid 4? Movies with uncompressed audio/video? The entire season of South Park can be put on a single dual-layer Blu-ray.


Well, obviously any PS3 game, but the point being that it's not really feasible to sell content on solely Blue-Ray where DVD is still active. The PS3 market moved on, so that's exclusive, anyway. The size increase would be nice, but even so, until it becomes senseless to put content on DVDs due to excessive size, the Blu-Ray can't really replace DVD the way DVD replaced videocasettes. Reminds me of old computers running off of casette tapes...
QrafTee
wombatrpgs wrote:
QrafTee wrote:

Metal Gear Solid 4? Movies with uncompressed audio/video? The entire season of South Park can be put on a single dual-layer Blu-ray.


Well, obviously any PS3 game, but the point being that it's not really feasible to sell content on solely Blue-Ray where DVD is still active. The PS3 market moved on, so that's exclusive, anyway. The size increase would be nice, but even so, until it becomes senseless to put content on DVDs due to excessive size, the Blu-Ray can't really replace DVD the way DVD replaced videocasettes. Reminds me of old computers running off of casette tapes...

Yet DVDs replaced VCDs...
wombatrpgs
QrafTee wrote:
wombatrpgs wrote:

Well, obviously any PS3 game, but the point being that it's not really feasible to sell content on solely Blue-Ray where DVD is still active. The PS3 market moved on, so that's exclusive, anyway. The size increase would be nice, but even so, until it becomes senseless to put content on DVDs due to excessive size, the Blu-Ray can't really replace DVD the way DVD replaced videocasettes. Reminds me of old computers running off of casette tapes...

Yet DVDs replaced VCDs...


I'm not saying it won't happen, just not in the forseeable future... It's more of a convenience than a necessity at this point..
enygmasoft
wombatrpgs wrote:
QrafTee wrote:
wombatrpgs wrote:

Well, obviously any PS3 game, but the point being that it's not really feasible to sell content on solely Blue-Ray where DVD is still active. The PS3 market moved on, so that's exclusive, anyway. The size increase would be nice, but even so, until it becomes senseless to put content on DVDs due to excessive size, the Blu-Ray can't really replace DVD the way DVD replaced videocasettes. Reminds me of old computers running off of casette tapes...

Yet DVDs replaced VCDs...


I'm not saying it won't happen, just not in the forseeable future... It's more of a convenience than a necessity at this point..


Yes and was a ginourmouse difference between VCR and DVD it was like night and day for those of us who moved on up to 480p back when that used to be HD. Sadly HDMI is light years ahead of analog in terms of eyecandy goodiness, since there is no Longer aony noise to compete with. This really brings out off the eye candy on DVD it it holds its own against Blueray. That is not to say there is no difference between the 2, however the difference is not as great as it was when DVD smashed the floor with VCR.
QrafTee
enygmasoft wrote:
wombatrpgs wrote:
QrafTee wrote:
wombatrpgs wrote:

Well, obviously any PS3 game, but the point being that it's not really feasible to sell content on solely Blue-Ray where DVD is still active. The PS3 market moved on, so that's exclusive, anyway. The size increase would be nice, but even so, until it becomes senseless to put content on DVDs due to excessive size, the Blu-Ray can't really replace DVD the way DVD replaced videocasettes. Reminds me of old computers running off of casette tapes...

Yet DVDs replaced VCDs...


I'm not saying it won't happen, just not in the forseeable future... It's more of a convenience than a necessity at this point..


Yes and was a ginourmouse difference between VCR and DVD it was like night and day for those of us who moved on up to 480p back when that used to be HD. Sadly HDMI is light years ahead of analog in terms of eyecandy goodiness, since there is no Longer aony noise to compete with. This really brings out off the eye candy on DVD it it holds its own against Blueray. That is not to say there is no difference between the 2, however the difference is not as great as it was when DVD smashed the floor with VCR.

I believe when the movie producers decide to make Blu-ray the media for adoption, they'll start making it clear as night and day. Not only in movie quality, but bonuses, extras, etc. They're already starting to with BD Live, but I have a feeling they're not going to do that as the economy is sagging and to make DVD "old-technology" would only hurt their industry and strengthen piracy.
wombatrpgs
QrafTee wrote:

I believe when the movie producers decide to make Blu-ray the media for adoption, they'll start making it clear as night and day. Not only in movie quality, but bonuses, extras, etc. They're already starting to with BD Live, but I have a feeling they're not going to do that as the economy is sagging and to make DVD "old-technology" would only hurt their industry and strengthen piracy.


No kidding there. Anyway, However, I really can't see the huge quality difference between the DVD and Blu-ray whereas video is pretty obvious... There's a limit to how realistic it can get, at least noticeably. Hypothetically, if you doubled the resolution from one medium to another, and then doubled again, you're getting a lot more return on the first increase.
enygmasoft
wombatrpgs wrote:
QrafTee wrote:

I believe when the movie producers decide to make Blu-ray the media for adoption, they'll start making it clear as night and day. Not only in movie quality, but bonuses, extras, etc. They're already starting to with BD Live, but I have a feeling they're not going to do that as the economy is sagging and to make DVD "old-technology" would only hurt their industry and strengthen piracy.


No kidding there. Anyway, However, I really can't see the huge quality difference betweewhn the DVD and Blu-ray whereas video is pretty obvious... There's a limit to how realistic it can get, at least noticeably. Hypothetically, if you doubled the resolution from one medium to another, and then doubled again, you're getting a lot more return on t first increase.


There are will eventually get to the point where the human eye cannot separate indivual pixels no matter how close you get to the screen. However, I really do see that happening within my lifetime. This will be the end of my ing any more eye candy toys. The menus on these new blurays are alot more interactive now, which should help things along, Since they now all have internet connections. BD-Live is going to help blu0 ray crush dvd.
enygmasoft
wombatrpgs wrote:
QrafTee wrote:

I believe when the movie producers decide to make Blu-ray the media for adoption, they'll start making it clear as night and day. Not only in movie quality, but bonuses, extras, etc. They're already starting to with BD Live, but I have a feeling they're not going to do that as the economy is sagging and to make DVD "old-technology" would only hurt their industry and strengthen piracy.


No kidding there. Anyway, However, I really can't see the huge quality difference betweewhn the DVD and Blu-ray whereas video is pretty obvious... There's a limit to how realistic it can get, at least noticeably. Hypothetically, if you doubled the resolution from one medium to another, and then doubled again, you're getting a lot more return on t first increase.


There are will eventually get to the point where the human eye cannot separate indivual pixels no matter how close you get to the screen. However, I really do see that happening within my lifetime. This will be the end of my ing any more eye candy toys. The menus on these new blurays are alot more interactive now, which should help things along, Since they now all have internet connections. BD-Live is going to help blu0 ray crush dvd.
enygmasoft
wombatrpgs wrote:
QrafTee wrote:

I believe when the movie producers decide to make Blu-ray the media for adoption, they'll start making it clear as night and day. Not only in movie quality, but bonuses, extras, etc. They're already starting to with BD Live, but I have a feeling they're not going to do that as the economy is sagging and to make DVD "old-technology" would only hurt their industry and strengthen piracy.


No kidding there. Anyway, However, I really can't see the huge quality difference betweewhn the DVD and Blu-ray whereas video is pretty obvious... There's a limit to how realistic it can get, at least noticeably. Hypothetically, if you doubled the resolution from one medium to another, and then doubled again, you're getting a lot more return on t first increase.


There are will eventually get to the point where the human eye cannot separate indivual pixels no matter how close you get to the screen. However, I really do see that happening within my lifetime. This will be the end of my upgrading any more eye candy toys. Blurays are not there yet, but it is certainly a step in the right direction. The menus on these new blurays are alot more interactive now, which should help things along. Since they now all have internet connections. BD-Live is going to help blu-ray crush DVD.
QrafTee
enygmasoft wrote:
wombatrpgs wrote:
QrafTee wrote:

I believe when the movie producers decide to make Blu-ray the media for adoption, they'll start making it clear as night and day. Not only in movie quality, but bonuses, extras, etc. They're already starting to with BD Live, but I have a feeling they're not going to do that as the economy is sagging and to make DVD "old-technology" would only hurt their industry and strengthen piracy.


No kidding there. Anyway, However, I really can't see the huge quality difference betweewhn the DVD and Blu-ray whereas video is pretty obvious... There's a limit to how realistic it can get, at least noticeably. Hypothetically, if you doubled the resolution from one medium to another, and then doubled again, you're getting a lot more return on t first increase.


There are will eventually get to the point where the human eye cannot separate indivual pixels no matter how close you get to the screen. However, I really do see that happening within my lifetime. This will be the end of my upgrading any more eye candy toys. Blurays are not there yet, but it is certainly a step in the right direction. The menus on these new blurays are alot more interactive now, which should help things along. Since they now all have internet connections. BD-Live is going to help blu-ray crush DVD.


I've seen that whole 120Hz thing... it only makes movies seem fake... looks like a soap opera. Everything shouldn't be in focus when the character moves swiftly.
vivekcentral
Does anyone know if it is possible to use a Wii remote in Visual Basic applications? I am working on a motion capture system and am using the Wii remotes as infrared cameras to track infrared markers on a person.
wombatrpgs
vivekcentral wrote:
Does anyone know if it is possible to use a Wii remote in Visual Basic applications? I am working on a motion capture system and am using the Wii remotes as infrared cameras to track infrared markers on a person.


Quick Google search yielded:
http://blogs.msdn.com/coding4fun/archive/2007/03/14/1879033.aspx
http://onakasuita.org/wii/index-e.html

First one is probably what you're after. Seems to be a good library for using VB with the WiiMote with little startup time. (I'm not a VB expert, but it seems simple enough)
enygmasoft
wombatrpgs wrote:
vivekcentral wrote:
Does anyone know if it is possible to use a Wii remote in Visual Basic applications? I am working on a motion capture system and am using the Wii remotes as infrared cameras to track infrared markers on a person.


Quick Google search yielded:
http://blogs.msdn.com/coding4fun/archive/2007/03/14/1879033.aspx
http://onakasuita.org/wii/index-e.html

First one is probably what you're after. Seems to be a good library for using VB with the WiiMote with little startup time. (I'm not a VB expert, but it seems simple enough)


It certainly seems like a very useful interface, are you trying to make a computer driver for a wii remot.
eday2010
ANy easy way to get Blu-ray up and running properly would be to stop releasing separate Blu-ray and DVDs releases of movies, and sell them together. Either as everything on 1 disc, or two separate discs in the same case. It wouldn't have to be anymore expensive than what a blu-ray or DVD disc costs now, because the studios and distributors would be saving money on the packaging.

THis way, people won't have to decide which version to get, or deicde to wait until they get a Blu-ray player, since they will have both copies and will be present- and future-proofed.
wombatrpgs
Might not be a bad idea... Though what exactly is the cost of producing the CD? I wasn't aware packaging was the major expense.
QrafTee
eday2010 wrote:
ANy easy way to get Blu-ray up and running properly would be to stop releasing separate Blu-ray and DVDs releases of movies, and sell them together. Either as everything on 1 disc, or two separate discs in the same case. It wouldn't have to be anymore expensive than what a blu-ray or DVD disc costs now, because the studios and distributors would be saving money on the packaging.

THis way, people won't have to decide which version to get, or deicde to wait until they get a Blu-ray player, since they will have both copies and will be present- and future-proofed.

Force the consumer to buy blu-ray when they don't have a blu-ray player... that's a good way to piss off customers. Well there is a new type of blu-ray that could make this possible; a hybrid blu-ray based on 3-layers or something where 2-layers feature the movie on blu-ray and the third (or fourth) featuring all the DVD content.
eday2010
If they make it the same price as a regular DVD, or even $2 more, how is that forcing consumers to buy blu-ray. They' be buying the DVD version and getting the Blu-ray disc as a bonus. Just as people buying the blu-ray version would get the dvd version as a bonus. Besides, you are suggesting the same thing that I suggested, so I do not know why you are objecting.
QrafTee
eday2010 wrote:
If they make it the same price as a regular DVD, or even $2 more, how is that forcing consumers to buy blu-ray. They' be buying the DVD version and getting the Blu-ray disc as a bonus. Just as people buying the blu-ray version would get the dvd version as a bonus. Besides, you are suggesting the same thing that I suggested, so I do not know why you are objecting.

So then the companies are taking a loss for each sale because they're bundling a free Blu-ray movie with a DVD movie purchase? I'm saying it's not financially sustainable; that would be my objection.
LostOverThere
So anyway, back onto the topic. Anyone looking out forward to Monster Hunter 3 (tri-) on Wii? It's looking great! If it gets released in the Western world (which its looking like it will) I'll certainly pick it up.
Runescapetown
Who would waste there money on such a terrible console, it gets boring really fast. The controller is so lame and it costs more then a xbox 360!! And its not to far away from a ps3 which is 100x better..

Also Wii is just a game cube with extra features ^
LostOverThere
Runescapetown wrote:
Who would waste there money on such a terrible console, it gets boring really fast. The controller is so lame and it costs more then a xbox 360!! And its not to far away from a ps3 which is 100x better..

Also Wii is just a game cube with extra features ^


Congratulations! You won the fanboi of the year contest! Also, by that logic the PS3 is just the PS2 with better hardware. How about not trolling topics you have no interest in and keeping your ignorance to yourself.
wombatrpgs
Runescapetown wrote:
Who would waste there money on such a terrible console, it gets boring really fast. The controller is so lame and it costs more then a xbox 360!! And its not to far away from a ps3 which is 100x better..

Also Wii is just a game cube with extra features ^


This made me laugh... I thought the point of a console was to be better than its predecessors...? And I wouldn't say that the controller is boring by any means.
QrafTee
Runescapetown wrote:
Who would waste there money on such a terrible console, it gets boring really fast. The controller is so lame and it costs more then a xbox 360!! And its not to far away from a ps3 which is 100x better..

Also Wii is just a game cube with extra features ^

Um... over 40 million people?
lyckichev
I very want wii and I think that soon I will buy it Very Happy
Whong
Runescapetown wrote:
Who would waste there money on such a terrible console, it gets boring really fast. The controller is so lame and it costs more then a xbox 360!! And its not to far away from a ps3 which is 100x better..

Also Wii is just a game cube with extra features ^


Well, Wii may not be better graphic wise, but it is a lot of fun to play games like SSBB or Super Mario Galaxy! Wii is a great console with many good games! I wouldn't say the controller is lame, on the contrary it's great! PS3 has almost the same controller as PS1, isn't that lame rather than Wii's controller... ?
QrafTee
Whong wrote:
Runescapetown wrote:
Who would waste there money on such a terrible console, it gets boring really fast. The controller is so lame and it costs more then a xbox 360!! And its not to far away from a ps3 which is 100x better..

Also Wii is just a game cube with extra features ^


Well, Wii may not be better graphic wise, but it is a lot of fun to play games like SSBB or Super Mario Galaxy! Wii is a great console with many good games! I wouldn't say the controller is lame, on the contrary it's great! PS3 has almost the same controller as PS1, isn't that lame rather than Wii's controller... ?

... Don't mess with what's broken. However I have to admit that I always wonder how that PS3 Boomerang Controller would feel like in my hand...
kriszara
I got a Wii for my daughter and she loves it. She never showed much interest in the other console systems, but she really enjoys the dynamic controls of the Wii.

My daugter has a Wii which she loves and we have Rockband and Rockband 2 for it. I was wondering if anyone has or has played the new Wii Music.
Is it enjoyable to play, how many people can play at once?

Helios' edit: please use your signature space in your profile for signatures...
Also, don't double post please!
speeDemon
The Wii is the best gaming console around...

I mean just think about it...

If Wii was HD, then you would end up emptying that stash of pocket money just on the console..

Just think about it.. What do The other consoles have?? The PS3 and the Xbox 360 have similar graphics, FPS, TPS, Racing games, Role playing games, and what not.. so they are great..

If we had a HD Wii with all these same games, then do you think that you would be talking about the Wii right now?? No, you wouldn't, it would just be another PS3 or Xbox.. so what's the difference?

Wii stands alone in it's type of gaming..

If it was HD, then maybe we'd have some more great Games, but then the Children appeal would go into trash, with M and A rated games!!
speeDemon
The Wii is the best gaming console around...

I mean just think about it...

If Wii was HD, then you would end up emptying that stash of pocket money just on the console..

Just think about it.. What do The other consoles have?? The PS3 and the Xbox 360 have similar graphics, FPS, TPS, Racing games, Role playing games, and what not.. so they are great..

If we had a HD Wii with all these same games, then do you think that you would be talking about the Wii right now?? No, you wouldn't, it would just be another PS3 or Xbox.. so what's the difference?

Wii stands alone in it's type of gaming..

If it was HD, then maybe we'd have some more great Games, but then the Children appeal would go into trash, with M and A rated games!!
enygmasoft
speeDemon wrote:
The Wii is the best gaming console around...

I mean just think about it...

If Wii was HD, then you would end up emptying that stash of pocket money just on the console..

Just think about it.. What do The other consoles have?? The PS3 and the Xbox 360 have similar graphics, FPS, TPS, Racing games, Role playing games, and what not.. so they are great..

If we had a HD Wii with all these same games, then do you think that you would be talking about the Wii right now?? No, you wouldn't, it would just be another PS3 or Xbox.. so what's the difference?

Wii stands alone in it's type of gaming..

If it was HD, then maybe we'd have some more great Games, but then the Children appeal would go into trash, with M and A rated games!!


The Wii picked an excellent time to be low teh, because no one can afford these new fangled tvs that you need to do the system justice. I am just thankful I had money last tax season
speeDemon
If Wii was HD, then you would end up emptying that stash of pocket money just on the console..

Just think about it.. What do The other consoles have?? The PS3 and the Xbox 360 have similar graphics, FPS, TPS, Racing games, Role playing games, and what not.. so they are great..

If we had a HD Wii with all these same games, then do you think that you would be talking about the Wii right now?? No, you wouldn't, it would just be another PS3 or Xbox.. so what's the difference?

Wii stands alone in it's type of gaming..

If it was HD, then maybe we'd have some more great Games, but then the Children appeal would go into trash, with M and A rated games!!
speeDemon
If Wii was HD, then you would end up emptying that stash of pocket money just on the console..

Just think about it.. What do The other consoles have?? The PS3 and the Xbox 360 have similar graphics, FPS, TPS, Racing games, Role playing games, and what not.. so they are great..

If we had a HD Wii with all these same games, then do you think that you would be talking about the Wii right now?? No, you wouldn't, it would just be another PS3 or Xbox.. so what's the difference?

Wii stands alone in it's type of gaming..

If it was HD, then maybe we'd have some more great Games, but then the Children appeal would go into trash, with M and A rated games!!
wombatrpgs
I wouldn't say the potential of graphics influence what games are made for that console. The image of the console largely determines its primary game type. (Though graphics sort of affects the image)
jsfdan
The reason I love the wii is because its so interactive.
enygmasoft
jsfdan wrote:
The reason I love the wii is because its so interactive.

It is amazingly true, Wii games are now more fun with with all the interactive goodies.
speeDemon
Ok well i cant get my internet connected and im going crazy. I tried wireless and it found my router and it wouldent pass the connection test. So i went to bestbuy and asked geek squad and nothing they said worked. So i baught a lan adaptor and baught a cord to go from my wii to the modem. And stil NOTHING!!! Am i connecting it into the right place or what.


A phone line has a wire and the wire is connected into the modem. Then theres a yellow wire wich says internet and thats connected into the wireless. And the wireless has 4 ports and it has a blue wire connected into the computer.

Please what do i do. Do i call in a someone to come to my house or what?
QrafTee
speeDemon wrote:
Ok well i cant get my internet connected and im going crazy. I tried wireless and it found my router and it wouldent pass the connection test. So i went to bestbuy and asked geek squad and nothing they said worked. So i baught a lan adaptor and baught a cord to go from my wii to the modem. And stil NOTHING!!! Am i connecting it into the right place or what.


A phone line has a wire and the wire is connected into the modem. Then theres a yellow wire wich says internet and thats connected into the wireless. And the wireless has 4 ports and it has a blue wire connected into the computer.

Please what do i do. Do i call in a someone to come to my house or what?

So you asked Geek Squad and got upsold a solution that didn't work... Surprise.

You should check your router's settings. Perhaps your router has a WPA password and you put WPA2 on your Wii? Maybe your router is MAC filtered and your Wii's MAC Address wasn't added to the router's Allow List. So many things... stay away from Geek Squad.
enygmasoft
I have always had more fun using nintendo goodies than their counterparts. The wii is by far the funnest way to play to have come out in a while. The Wii surprising went against the grain in terms of eye candy, in relation to eye candy, being the lowest cpu in relation to the ps3 and xbox.
pho3nixsky
I hacked my wii without a modchip Razz If you wanna try it google twilight hack or homebrew channel Razz
QrafTee
pho3nixsky wrote:
I hacked my wii without a modchip Razz If you wanna try it google twilight hack or homebrew channel Razz

That's... nice?
tchaunt
In all honesty, I loved the Wii when I first got it. Two weeks into having it, I started to notice something. I've seen 3 'T' rated games for the Wii, and only 1 'M' game. I think that obviously shows who Nintendo and all of the other video game companies are aiming at....kids.
QrafTee
tchaunt wrote:
In all honesty, I loved the Wii when I first got it. Two weeks into having it, I started to notice something. I've seen 3 'T' rated games for the Wii, and only 1 'M' game. I think that obviously shows who Nintendo and all of the other video game companies are aiming at....kids.

... Which isn't necessarily a bad thing considering Mario, Pikachu, Donkey Kong, and Yoshi was born from their aim at kids. I'm disappointed that Nintendo followed our growth with Link and Samus all these years only to turn their backs on us--the Core and Hardcore gamers--now that the casual crowd is accessible to them.
LostOverThere
I personally don't know what people are complaining about. I'm really excited about 2009 for the Wii. There's heaps of great hardcore titles on the horizon. For instance, Madworld, The Conduit, Dead Space: Extraction, Deadly Creatures, House of the Dead: Overkill, Sin and Punishment 2 and Fatal Frame IV are just some of the awesome games yet to come.
enygmasoft
LostOverThere wrote:
I personally don't know what people are complaining about. I'm really excited about 2009 for the Wii. There's heaps of great hardcore titles on the horizon. For instance, Madworld, The Conduit, Dead Space: Extraction, Deadly Creatures, House of the Dead: Overkill, Sin and Punishment 2 and Fatal Frame IV are just some of the awesome games yet to come.



That is my biggest complaint with the Wii is that they have left us hardcore gamers. So far only 7 games in the entire Wii Library are worth getting. The problem is there are a massive amount of games that you need to have access to good times.
Noremac
I'd like to advise everyone against buying a wii if they dont already have one. I owned one for a long time and have always been a nintendo fan, but its a huge let down, they've put too much into innovation and not enough into gameplay.

Once you get past the few good games - metroid, zelda(though dissapointing), galaxy(too easy), etc. it will only collect dust, just try not to get suckered into the extra features it has, because at the end of the day its a games console, and that what matters.
wombatrpgs
I was under the impression that being a game console was the POINT of the Wii. I admit the game collection is a bit under par, but it's better than the collection of nothing that I'd enjoy on other consoles. For instance, Brawl, and Radiant Dawn.
QrafTee
wombatrpgs wrote:
I was under the impression that being a game console was the POINT of the Wii. I admit the game collection is a bit under par, but it's better than the collection of nothing that I'd enjoy on other consoles. For instance, Brawl, and Radiant Dawn.

The collection of nothing on the other consoles... could you please be more specific?
enygmasoft
QrafTee wrote:
wombatrpgs wrote:
I was under the impression that being a game console was the POINT of the Wii. I admit the game collection is a bit under par, but it's better than the collection of nothing that I'd enjoy on other consoles. For instance, Brawl, and Radiant Dawn.

The collection of nothing on the other consoles... could you please be more specific?



That has always been the problem with the Wii, and the whole nintendo business in general>. My only problem is the massive amount of time between must have games for us hardcore players. I have every game worth getting for the Wii and it does not amount to ten games.
wombatrpgs
Maybe what I meant is that I am by no definition a HARDCORE GAMER. I enjoy decent, original games. FPS does not cut it. I enjoyed the original Halo. That was IT as far as the genre went, as far as I'm concerned. So far on the Wii, I'm a fan of Brawl, Radiant Dawn, and sort of Twilight Princess. (Not that great, but whatever). For other consoles... Uh, pretty much nothing. Just nothing really all that appealing. It's more a problem with the industry in general, that there's nothing all too ground-breaking anymore.

(And please don't use hardcore gamer as a term... For some reason it makes me roll my eyes involuntarily, no offense)
Ivanluisky
Wii is awesome!
I think I'll buy one next month Very Happy.
smarticles
wombatrpgs wrote:
Maybe what I meant is that I am by no definition a HARDCORE GAMER. I enjoy decent, original games. FPS does not cut it. I enjoyed the original Halo. That was IT as far as the genre went, as far as I'm concerned. So far on the Wii, I'm a fan of Brawl, Radiant Dawn, and sort of Twilight Princess. (Not that great, but whatever). For other consoles... Uh, pretty much nothing. Just nothing really all that appealing. It's more a problem with the industry in general, that there's nothing all too ground-breaking anymore.

(And please don't use hardcore gamer as a term... For some reason it makes me roll my eyes involuntarily, no offense)


You make an exellent point. I have never never been a big fan FPS either because every game is exactly the same as the other. The genra, in terms of gameplay, peaked when I passed Duke Nukem 3D. But I do certailnly look for an excellent story as well as more complex gaming experience.
QrafTee
smarticles wrote:
wombatrpgs wrote:
Maybe what I meant is that I am by no definition a HARDCORE GAMER. I enjoy decent, original games. FPS does not cut it. I enjoyed the original Halo. That was IT as far as the genre went, as far as I'm concerned. So far on the Wii, I'm a fan of Brawl, Radiant Dawn, and sort of Twilight Princess. (Not that great, but whatever). For other consoles... Uh, pretty much nothing. Just nothing really all that appealing. It's more a problem with the industry in general, that there's nothing all too ground-breaking anymore.

(And please don't use hardcore gamer as a term... For some reason it makes me roll my eyes involuntarily, no offense)


You make an exellent point. I have never never been a big fan FPS either because every game is exactly the same as the other. The genra, in terms of gameplay, peaked when I passed Duke Nukem 3D. But I do certailnly look for an excellent story as well as more complex gaming experience.

I challenge that, Team Fortress 2 brings something new to FPS gaming, so does Left 4 Dead.
eday2010
wombatrpgs wrote:
(And please don't use hardcore gamer as a term... For some reason it makes me roll my eyes involuntarily, no offense)


Here here! I hate that term. It's like gaming nerds with no life had to come up with a term to make themselves sound "cool". "I'm not a no-life loser who spends all his time playing video games; I'm a 'hardcore gamer'". Riiiight. The young dumb kids use that term, and so do some people who have been playing for 20 years. I guess they feel the need to separate themselves from the people who don't follow games that much and just play now and then for fun, who don't read reviews and just decide on what to buy when they get to the store.

If people want to separate yourself from those types, maybe using the term "traditional gamer", and "traditional games" would make them sound like less of a loser and more of a hobbyist.

I am a traditional gamer. I read up on games and decide what I want before I go and buy it. I like a wide variety of games, and a lot of those types of games have been around since forever. I don't play 4 hours a day everyday because I have a life. Some days I may play 4 hours, and some days I don't play at all. I don't need guns of blood or a first person perspective to enjoy a game. I like playing GTA IV, but I also like playing Lego Indiana Jones and Super Mario Galaxy.

Hardcore gamers? Core gamers? What the hell is that? Traditional gamer? That makes a heck of a lot more sense.
enygmasoft
eday2010 wrote:
wombatrpgs wrote:
(And please don't use hardcore gamer as a term... For some reason it makes me roll my eyes involuntarily, no offense)


Here here! I hate that term. It's like gaming nerds with no life had to come up with a term to make themselves sound "cool". "I'm not a no-life loser who spends all his time playing video games; I'm a 'hardcore gamer'". Riiiight. The young dumb kids use that term, and so do some people who have been playing for 20 years. I guess they feel the need to separate themselves from the people who don't follow games that much and just play now and then for fun, who don't read reviews and just decide on what to buy when they get to the store.

If people want to separate yourself from those types, maybe using the term "traditional gamer", and "traditional games" would make them sound like less of a loser and more of a hobbyist.

I am a traditional gamer. I read up on games and decide what I want before I go and buy it. I like a wide variety of games, and a lot of those types of games have been around since forever. I don't play 4 hours a day everyday because I have a life. Some days I may play 4 hours, and some days I don't play at all. I don't need guns of blood or a first person perspective to enjoy a game. I like playing GTA IV, but I also like playing Lego Indiana Jones and Super Mario Galaxy.

Hardcore gamers? Core gamers? What the hell is that? Traditional gamer? That makes a heck of a lot more sense.
LostOverThere
Anyone tried Deadly Creatures? I rented this the other day, and man is this game incredibly underrated! Seriously, I was blown away. Sure there are a few technical glitches and some frame rate issues, but the voice work, graphics and gameplay are incredibly. I'd highly recommend it!
Parkour_Jarrod
Nope but ill try it if you recommended it, where di you rent it?
Libby
I'm addicted to Rock Band and Mario Kart for Wii. So fun!!
LostOverThere
Parkour_Jarrod wrote:
Nope but ill try it if you recommended it, where di you rent it?

Just my local Blockbuster.
evilgeniuself
I tried "Der Blob" recently, and did not like it....
Fortunately it was a rental.
carlospro7
hmm Even though the Wii hasn't been out for a long long time. I have good memories playing with the Wii, which was early in 2007. One of my freshman college roommates got one, and even though he only had Wii Sports, we had a blast playing it, specially the golf game. I've never got my own because I'm not a big console person and perfectly fine with my gamecube and my PC currently, but maybe when the price drops, I'll think about one.
LostOverThere
evilgeniuself wrote:
I tried "Der Blob" recently, and did not like it....
Fortunately it was a rental.

I think you mean de blob. Wink

Personally I didn't find de blob as entertaining as others said it was. Oh well. Smile
wombatrpgs
Wow, I just started playing Twilight Princess again and realized what I've been missing out on. The game's much more atmospheric than anything else for the console, even if it's nothing new gameplay-wise. Even more than Fire Emblem. It might be worth a second look.
eday2010
I have had Twilight Princess for almost a year, but I haven't played it yet. I have too many other games I have been playing. Shorter in length, so I have been trying to get them out of the way. Plus I started Paper Mario over a year ago, so I want to finish that before starting another long role playing game. I actually have barely played super paper mario as well. i should actually start playing that one again.

i wish they would stop releasing so many good games!
wombatrpgs
It's nice looking at TP after the release. It seems to have been overhyped and then scoffed at. And I need to get Paper Mario...
LostOverThere
eday2010 wrote:
I have had Twilight Princess for almost a year, but I haven't played it yet. I have too many other games I have been playing. Shorter in length, so I have been trying to get them out of the way. Plus I started Paper Mario over a year ago, so I want to finish that before starting another long role playing game. I actually have barely played super paper mario as well. i should actually start playing that one again.

Hah, I've been playing Super Paper Mario a lot recently myself. It really has been overlooked.
patchworkepiphany
jsfdan wrote:
The reason I love the wii is because its so interactive.


That is what i love too!! That and watching my husband play Raving rabbids lol there are some great completely just for fun games out for wii. Plus i really like all the boxing stuff. Anyone try Golds gym one?? That is my next rental if blockbuster nabs it. Active looks ok too. My 4 year old does wii fit and laughs hysterically watching his mii do all the stuff. It is a lot of fun with multi-players, more so than my other systems ( though they were awesome for graphics etc ) Still, I think wii really has some great points that make it pretty unique.
QrafTee
I'm glad Madworld is giving the hardcore Wii gamers something to play... but I'm sad that Sega seems to have gotten snubbed by gamers again--like they did to Valkyria Chronicles which is a great exclusive title for the Playstation 3.
LostOverThere
QrafTee wrote:
I'm glad Madworld is giving the hardcore Wii gamers something to play... but I'm sad that Sega seems to have gotten snubbed by gamers again--like they did to Valkyria Chronicles which is a great exclusive title for the Playstation 3.

Sega apparently are saying Madworld is selling up to their expectations. But most analysts suggest the game is either not selling well and or fair to early to determine whether it will. Maybe they just have really low expectations?
QrafTee
LostOverThere wrote:
QrafTee wrote:
I'm glad Madworld is giving the hardcore Wii gamers something to play... but I'm sad that Sega seems to have gotten snubbed by gamers again--like they did to Valkyria Chronicles which is a great exclusive title for the Playstation 3.

Sega apparently are saying Madworld is selling up to their expectations. But most analysts suggest the game is either not selling well and or fair to early to determine whether it will. Maybe they just have really low expectations?

I wouldn't be surprised if they did since Valkyria Chronicles along with many of their Sonic games have received lackluster sales... although the Sonic games do deserve it.
LostOverThere
QrafTee wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if they did since Valkyria Chronicles along with many of their Sonic games have received lackluster sales... although the Sonic games do deserve it.

Yeah definitely. I'm still hanging out for a quality Sonic title, but each release I'm slowly wondering if we'll ever get one...

C'mon Sega! Do a 3D Sonic like Nintendo did Super Mario 64.
wombatrpgs
I doubt that's going to happen. The audience that Sega is aiming for seems to be getting younger and younger. I believe the voiceovers completely killed anything in the series that resembled serious.
QrafTee
wombatrpgs wrote:
I doubt that's going to happen. The audience that Sega is aiming for seems to be getting younger and younger. I believe the voiceovers completely killed anything in the series that resembled serious.

Unfortunately a more mature voiceover wouldn't fit the series at all. I think that's why Nintendo chose not to do voiceovers on their mascots like Mario, Luigi, Link, Zelda, Donkey Kong, Fox McCloud, etc.
Diablosblizz
LostOverThere wrote:
C'mon Sega! Do a 3D Sonic like Nintendo did Super Mario 64.


There was a 3D sonic, it wasn't quite what I wanted but meh:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_3D_Blast

It would be pretty amazing for them to make one like Mario, first person(ish) type thing. I haven't played a sonic game since Sonic 3 . . . that was a good game!
LostOverThere
Diablosblizz wrote:
It would be pretty amazing for them to make one like Mario, first person(ish) type thing. I haven't played a sonic game since Sonic 3 . . . that was a good game!

Yeah. I dunno, I'm just still hanging out for a good Sonic game. The series used to be so good. Maybe Sega could kidnap Miyamoto for a day. That could work.
wombatrpgs
Diablosblizz wrote:
LostOverThere wrote:
C'mon Sega! Do a 3D Sonic like Nintendo did Super Mario 64.


There was a 3D sonic, it wasn't quite what I wanted but meh:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_3D_Blast

It would be pretty amazing for them to make one like Mario, first person(ish) type thing. I haven't played a sonic game since Sonic 3 . . . that was a good game!


This game wasn't so bad. It kicked the ass of 3D sonic today though.
enygmasoft
[quote="wombatrpgs"]
Diablosblizz wrote:
LostOverThere wrote:
C'mon Sega! Do a 3D Sonic like Nintendo did Super Mario 64.


There was a 3D sonic, it wasn't quite what I wanted but meh:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_3D_Blast

It would be pretty amazing for them to make one like Mario, first person(ish) type thing. I haven't played a sonic game since Sonic 3 . . . that was a good game!


This game wasn't so bad. It kicked the ass of 3D sonic today though.[/quote

It certainly is, but lets not forget sonic carrear has gone down hill since his hey day when the genisis ran sonic games.
eday2010
I'd rather see an old school 2D wiiware Sonic game than a new 3D one. 3D doesn't work for Sonic. I wish Sega would just understand that.
mwsupra
Sim City Creator is ok but gets old fast, especially since I'm having a hell of a time getting past 30k residents. One of the best Wii Ware games is World of Goo, and My Life as a King is pretty addicting. Hmm lets see... Animal Crossing looked like its for little kids, so didn't get too wrapped up in that. Still can't wait to try some of the other games coming up this year Very Happy
QrafTee
mwsupra wrote:
Sim City Creator is ok but gets old fast, especially since I'm having a hell of a time getting past 30k residents. One of the best Wii Ware games is World of Goo, and My Life as a King is pretty addicting. Hmm lets see... Animal Crossing looked like its for little kids, so didn't get too wrapped up in that. Still can't wait to try some of the other games coming up this year Very Happy

If you got addicted to Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: My Life as a King, then Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: My Life as a Darklord will be a title you'll look forward to.
enygmasoft
QrafTee wrote:
mwsupra wrote:
Sim City Creator is ok but gets old fast, especially since I'm having a hell of a time getting past 30k residents. One of the best Wii Ware games is World of Goo, and My Life as a King is pretty addicting. Hmm lets see... Animal Crossing looked like its for little kids, so didn't get too wrapped up in that. Still can't wait to try some of the other games coming up this year Very Happy

If you got addicted to Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: My Life as a King, then Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: My Life as a Darklord will be a title you'll look forward to.


Final fantasy chronicles was a waste of $50 when I got for the game cube.
wombatrpgs
That series has too many spinoffs in the first place...
QrafTee
enygmasoft wrote:
QrafTee wrote:
mwsupra wrote:
Sim City Creator is ok but gets old fast, especially since I'm having a hell of a time getting past 30k residents. One of the best Wii Ware games is World of Goo, and My Life as a King is pretty addicting. Hmm lets see... Animal Crossing looked like its for little kids, so didn't get too wrapped up in that. Still can't wait to try some of the other games coming up this year Very Happy

If you got addicted to Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: My Life as a King, then Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: My Life as a Darklord will be a title you'll look forward to.


Final fantasy chronicles was a waste of $50 when I got for the game cube.

Well the My Life as a... sub-series is nothing like Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles... it's like Final Fantasy City.
Crazy_Canuck
I love the Wii because it has more family games then the PS3 or Xbox. Sometimes I just want a fun game with no fighting or blood and guts. Endless Ocean is a great game to just relax in. I have played that into the wee hours of the morning.
Diablosblizz
Thats one thing Nintendo currently has, the family market. Parents like how their cheap, don't care about the graphics and want to have fun with their kids. xBox is trying badly, coming out with family days (there's an offical name, I just don't know it). Not sure about PS3, but Nintendo is currently winning in the family "boat."
enygmasoft
Diablosblizz wrote:
Thats one thing Nintendo currently has, the family market. Parents like how their cheap, don't care about the graphics and want to have fun with their kids. xBox is trying badly, coming out with family days (there's an offical name, I just don't know it). Not sure about PS3, but Nintendo is currently winning in the family "boat."


Nintendo is the best family enabled set up, but sadly that is the problem since i have always been a bit of a hardcore gamer.
eday2010
enygmasoft wrote:
Diablosblizz wrote:
Thats one thing Nintendo currently has, the family market. Parents like how their cheap, don't care about the graphics and want to have fun with their kids. xBox is trying badly, coming out with family days (there's an offical name, I just don't know it). Not sure about PS3, but Nintendo is currently winning in the family "boat."


Nintendo is the best family enabled set up, but sadly that is the problem since i have always been a bit of a hardcore gamer.


You mean traditional gamer. "Hardcore" gamer describes someone with zero social life, no social skills, no admirable traits...generally a big time loser in every sense. A Traditional gamer likes the traditional style of games (platformers, shooters, fighters, etc), can appreciate the odd "family" game that is genuinely fun, but whose life does not revolve video games and whose spare time isn't all spent playing games, like with the so-called "hardcore" gamer Smile
QrafTee
eday2010 wrote:
enygmasoft wrote:
Diablosblizz wrote:
Thats one thing Nintendo currently has, the family market. Parents like how their cheap, don't care about the graphics and want to have fun with their kids. xBox is trying badly, coming out with family days (there's an offical name, I just don't know it). Not sure about PS3, but Nintendo is currently winning in the family "boat."


Nintendo is the best family enabled set up, but sadly that is the problem since i have always been a bit of a hardcore gamer.


You mean traditional gamer. "Hardcore" gamer describes someone with zero social life, no social skills, no admirable traits...generally a big time loser in every sense. A Traditional gamer likes the traditional style of games (platformers, shooters, fighters, etc), can appreciate the odd "family" game that is genuinely fun, but whose life does not revolve video games and whose spare time isn't all spent playing games, like with the so-called "hardcore" gamer Smile

... No, I think he meant hardcore. Then there's the Core gamer, and then the Casuals, and the Fads.
enygmasoft
[quote="QrafTee"]
eday2010 wrote:
enygmasoft wrote:
Diablosblizz wrote:
Thats one thing Nintendo currently has, the family market. Parents like how their cheap, don't care about the graphics and want to have fun with their kids. xBox is trying badly, coming out with family days (there's an offical name, I just don't know it). Not sure about PS3, but Nintendo is currently winning in the family "boat."


Nintendo is the best family enabled set up, but sadly that is the problem since i have always been a bit of a hardcore gamer.


You mean traditional gamer. "Hardcore" gamer describes someone with zero social life, no social skills, no admirable traits...generally a big time loser in every sense. A Traditional gamer likes the traditional style of games (platformers, shooters, fighters, etc), can appreciate the odd "family" game that is genuinely fun, but whose life does not revolve video games and whose spare time isn't all spent playing games, like with the so-called "hardcore" gamer Smile

... No, I think he meant hardcore. Then there's the Core gamer, and then the Casuals, and the Fads.[/quote

Hardcore gamers certainly tend to be typically nerds and people wh
My7h
I have played several times at the WII and can't wait to buy myself one of those Very Happy
traxion
My7h wrote:
I have played several times at the WII and can't wait to buy myself one of those Very Happy


i was happy when we stopped playing the wii

it is fun for once a week or less.

im a gamer who want to play every day, so im happy whit the ps3 Very Happy
LostOverThere
traxion wrote:
it is fun for once a week or less.

The Wii extends far beyond Wii Sports. Personally I play mine daily, but maybe that's just me. Wink
wombatrpgs
traxion wrote:

i was happy when we stopped playing the wii


Yeah, really? What games are you playing?
eday2010
QrafTee wrote:

... No, I think he meant hardcore. Then there's the Core gamer, and then the Casuals, and the Fads.


Then he's not the brightest knife in the drawer. "Hardcore" gamers are nothing but lifeless, socially-inept losers, who spend every waking spare moment playing, reading about, or talking about, video games. Why do you think they call themselves "hardcore" gamers? Because they know they are sad examples of life, and need to give themselves such a label to try and sound "cool". But everyone knows they are the sludge at the bottom of the gaming community pond.

On top of that, such labels are just plain stupid. If you play games, you're a gamer. It doesn't matter what kinds of games you play or how long you play them for. There is no need to label people as "casual" or "hardcore", especially since many of the so-called "hardcore" losers who are complaining about the "casual" gamer and "casual" games, were once "casual" players themselves. That's how everyone starts out.

If you must use labels, those ones don't even make sense, really. People getting into games now - the "newcomers" - who start by playing Wii Sports and Cooking Mama, will probably eventually get into more involving games like Lego Batman and Mario Galaxy. You know, the more "traditional" games that have been around from the beginning. People who enjoy the action, platforming, shooting, and sports games - the traditional games that have grown from their births on the first consoles - would probably be best to be called traditional gamers, since those are the types they like. There are no "hardcore" games, at least not since the Swedish Erotica ones from the 70s and 80s on the Atari 2600, so how can there be "hardcore" gamers? Seems like needing to label youself a "hardcore" gamer shows a real lack of maturity and/or self esteem. The typical "hardcore" gamer is too stupid and/or closed minded to try a different kind of game because it doesn't involve guns, blood, gore, shooting, and/or killing.

If you play games, you're a gamer. Simple as that. People who use the "hardcore" (or "core") and "casual" labels are just simply very, very stupid.
QrafTee
eday2010 wrote:
QrafTee wrote:

... No, I think he meant hardcore. Then there's the Core gamer, and then the Casuals, and the Fads.


Then he's not the brightest knife in the drawer. "Hardcore" gamers are nothing but lifeless, socially-inept losers, who spend every waking spare moment playing, reading about, or talking about, video games. Why do you think they call themselves "hardcore" gamers? Because they know they are sad examples of life, and need to give themselves such a label to try and sound "cool". But everyone knows they are the sludge at the bottom of the gaming community pond.

On top of that, such labels are just plain stupid. If you play games, you're a gamer. It doesn't matter what kinds of games you play or how long you play them for. There is no need to label people as "casual" or "hardcore", especially since many of the so-called "hardcore" losers who are complaining about the "casual" gamer and "casual" games, were once "casual" players themselves. That's how everyone starts out.

If you must use labels, those ones don't even make sense, really. People getting into games now - the "newcomers" - who start by playing Wii Sports and Cooking Mama, will probably eventually get into more involving games like Lego Batman and Mario Galaxy. You know, the more "traditional" games that have been around from the beginning. People who enjoy the action, platforming, shooting, and sports games - the traditional games that have grown from their births on the first consoles - would probably be best to be called traditional gamers, since those are the types they like. There are no "hardcore" games, at least not since the Swedish Erotica ones from the 70s and 80s on the Atari 2600, so how can there be "hardcore" gamers? Seems like needing to label youself a "hardcore" gamer shows a real lack of maturity and/or self esteem. The typical "hardcore" gamer is too stupid and/or closed minded to try a different kind of game because it doesn't involve guns, blood, gore, shooting, and/or killing.

If you play games, you're a gamer. Simple as that. People who use the "hardcore" (or "core") and "casual" labels are just simply very, very stupid.

I disagree. A gamer is a gamer... which is true--I agree with you there basically. However it's the degree of being a gamer that requires the additional label.

Yes, perhaps "hardcore" gamers are those stuck in their parent's basement playing games with no friends except the ones on their friends list or playing old poor-quality games and distributing it over the internet to get hits on their website. However, what about professional gamers--yes, they exist. Wouldn't these people be classified as "hardcore" in the sense because their devotion is so much into the game because they compete in it?

I believe Korea has plenty of hardcore professional gamers in Starcraft, China has plenty of less organized hardcore semi-professional gold miners in World of Warcraft, and in North America we have plenty of hardcore clans in Halo, Counterstrike, Team Fortress 2, and World of Warcraft.
enygmasoft
QrafTee wrote:
eday2010 wrote:
QrafTee wrote:

... No, I think he meant hardcore. Then there's the Core gamer, and then the Casuals, and the Fads.


Then he's not the brightest knife in the drawer. "Hardcore" gamers are nothing but lifeless, socially-inept losers, who spend every waking spare moment playing, reading about, or talking about, video games. Why do you think they call themselves "hardcore" gamers? Because they know they are sad examples of life, and need to give themselves such a label to try and sound "cool". But everyone knows they are the sludge at the bottom of the gaming community pond.

On top of that, such labels are just plain stupid. If you play games, you're a gamer. It doesn't matter what kinds of games you play or how long you play them for. There is no need to label people as "casual" or "hardcore", especially since many of the so-called "hardcore" losers who are complaining about the "casual" gamer and "casual" games, were once "casual" players themselves. That's how everyone starts out.

If you must use labels, those ones don't even make sense, really. People getting into games now - the "newcomers" - who start by playing Wii Sports and Cooking Mama, will probably eventually get into more involving games like Lego Batman and Mario Galaxy. You know, the more "traditional" games that have been around from the beginning. People who enjoy the action, platforming, shooting, and sports games - the traditional games that have grown from their births on the first consoles - would probably be best to be called traditional gamers, since those are the types they like. There are no "hardcore" games, at least not since the Swedish Erotica ones from the 70s and 80s on the Atari 2600, so how can there be "hardcore" gamers? Seems like needing to label youself a "hardcore" gamer shows a real lack of maturity and/or self esteem. The typical "hardcore" gamer is too stupid and/or closed minded to try a different kind of game because it doesn't involve guns, blood, gore, shooting, and/or killing.

If you play games, you're a gamer. Simple as that. People who use the "hardcore" (or "core") and "casual" labels are just simply very, very stupid.

I disagree. A gamer is a gatallmer... which is true--I agree with you there basically. However it's the degree of being a gamer that requires the additional label.

Yes, perhaps "hardcore" gamers are those stuck in their parent's basement playing games with no friends except the ones on their friends list or playing old poor-quality games and distributing it over the internet to get hits on their website. However, what about professional gamers--yes, they exist. Wouldn't these people be classified as "hardcore" in the sense because their devotion is so much into the game because they compete in it?

I believe Korea has plenty of hardcore professional gamers in Starcraft, China has plenty of less organized hardcore semi-professional gold miners in World of Warcraft, and in North America we have plenty of hardcore clans in Halo, Counterstrike, Team Fortress 2, and World of Warcraft.


I can't deny that most of my friends had very few things going on outside of video games, but I am 6 ft tall and and even the fine chicks check me out. I still cant deny I have always simply loved since the NES came outames. I consider my self a hardcore gamer because the was my most enjoyable hobby, since I have been playing but it was by no means my only outlet since I liked girls and they like me. It is because of this that I got into Computer Work because everytime I had new game typically it was time for an upgrade and one of these runs e easily $150, for labor only. That would have been way to expensive to keep with of latest video card dodad if I did do all my own PC work. One thing led to another and I have a B.S. in computer networks, which i got with Honors.
prem
hvs is the real shit!
eday2010
QrafTee wrote:
I disagree. A gamer is a gamer... which is true--I agree with you there basically. However it's the degree of being a gamer that requires the additional label.

Yes, perhaps "hardcore" gamers are those stuck in their parent's basement playing games with no friends except the ones on their friends list or playing old poor-quality games and distributing it over the internet to get hits on their website. However, what about professional gamers--yes, they exist. Wouldn't these people be classified as "hardcore" in the sense because their devotion is so much into the game because they compete in it?

I believe Korea has plenty of hardcore professional gamers in Starcraft, China has plenty of less organized hardcore semi-professional gold miners in World of Warcraft, and in North America we have plenty of hardcore clans in Halo, Counterstrike, Team Fortress 2, and World of Warcraft.


Professional gamers are professional gamers. Simple as that. Apart from possibly having no real skills for a real job, playing games professionally doesn't make them "hardcore". They may be traditional gamers, but if they need a label, professional gamer would be it.

And as far as the gold miners in China, doing a repetitive job for piss poor pay because they cannot find something more fulfilling or better paying definitely doesn't qualify as being a "hardcore" gamer. They're a worker.


enygmasoft wrote:

I can't deny that most of my friends had very few things going on outside of video games, but I am 6 ft tall and and even the fine chicks check me out. I still cant deny I have always simply loved since the NES came outames. I consider my self a hardcore gamer because the was my most enjoyable hobby, since I have been playing but it was by no means my only outlet since I liked girls and they like me. It is because of this that I got into Computer Work because everytime I had new game typically it was time for an upgrade and one of these runs e easily $150, for labor only. That would have been way to expensive to keep with of latest video card dodad if I did do all my own PC work. One thing led to another and I have a B.S. in computer networks, which i got with Honors.


That would make you a traditional gamer, not a "hardcore" gamer. Especially when the term "hardcore" gamer is frowned upon and shunned on sites like Kotaku and Joystiq.
Crazy_Canuck
I finally broke down and bought a Wii. I am a mom in her late 30's, but I do admit I am enjoying playing on it. I haven't gotten too many games yet, but I think it's probably fairly addictive.
enygmasoft
Crazy_Canuck wrote:
I finally broke down and bought a Wii. I am a mom in her late 30's, but I do admit I am enjoying playing on it. I haven't gotten too many games yet, but I think it's probably fairly addictive.


The wii is good fun but I am still wating to get punch for the wii, they finally did it right for 2 players, that was always my only complain
LostOverThere
I gather you mean Punch Out? I'm waiting to get my hands on it myself. It looks great! Smile
enygmasoft
LostOverThere wrote:
I gather you mean Punch Out? I'm waiting to get my hands on it myself. It looks great! Smile


Yes it does it looks great. The whole series has always been great fun. And finally nintendo got smart and made 2 players for the wii
eday2010
Forget Punch-Out, or any of those other games. For me, they will all be mediocre compared to New Super Mario Bros. Wii when it comes out at the end of the year. I am insanely excited about this game. Finally, a 2D Mario game on a home console. That is the greatest thing ever. Word of Super Mario Galaxy 2 next year is also exciting, but I am definitely more worked up about NSMBW than Galaxy 2. I LOVE 2D platformers.
LostOverThere
eday2010 wrote:
Forget Punch-Out, or any of those other games. For me, they will all be mediocre compared to New Super Mario Bros. Wii when it comes out at the end of the year. I am insanely excited about this game. Finally, a 2D Mario game on a home console. That is the greatest thing ever. Word of Super Mario Galaxy 2 next year is also exciting, but I am definitely more worked up about NSMBW than Galaxy 2. I LOVE 2D platformers.

Word.

Personally I feel that Super Mario Galaxy 2 will be undoubtedly the better of the two, simply because of it's scale.

How many levels is included in the NSMB: Wii? I thought I heard 85+. Does that sound correct?
eday2010
Yes, I heard over 80 as well. That's a lot. If some of the levels are as long as they were in Super Mario World, then it will be an epic game itself.
wombatrpgs
Wait a 2D Mario game on the Wii? I must be really out of gaming news lately... This is the first game since Brawl I'll have to pick up. Should be very interesting. On another note, I wish the Sonic series would do something like this. Massive 2D scale and NO voiceovers.
LostOverThere
Yep, but seriously. The lack of online multiplayer is a complete downer for me. I mean, what a missed opportunity! =
wombatrpgs
Anyone remember the race stuff from Super Mario Deluxe? The GBC release of the NES game? Now that was fun competitive Mario.
enygmasoft
why did nintendo forget about all of the people that put them on top. Why has the wii forsaken us, I havent had a game worth buying since metroid prime 3 came out.
eday2010
enygmasoft wrote:
why did nintendo forget about all of the people that put them on top. Why has the wii forsaken us, I havent had a game worth buying since metroid prime 3 came out.


Uh, what? How have they forgotten you? They've already released Metroid Prime 3, Super Mario Galaxy, Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Super Smash Bros Brawl, Punch-Out!!, Super Paper Mario, and will be releasing this year and next Sin & Punishment 2, Super Mario Galaxy 2, New Super Mario Bros Wii, Metroid: Other M, Metroid Prime Trilogy, a new Zelda game... I mean, what the hell do you want from them? Nintendo is delivering excellent games. You should focus on the third party developers and get off this lame bandwagon of saying the Wii has forsaken you and that Nintendo has forgotten about you. It's a bunch of malarkey.

Nintendo tried catering to people like you with the Gamecube, and they finished in third place out of 4 consoles, one of which died before the Gamecube came out. You gamers had forsaken and forgotten about Nintendo. So instead of catering to the whiny, fickle, never-happy traditional gamer, Nintendo targeted everybody and found success again. That is why they are on top, not because of you and traditional gamers. After the Super NES, Nintendo wasn't on top anymore. The fickle gamer went to the Playstation, and if it wasn't for the newcomers to gaming, Nintendo wouldn't be on top again. So Nintendo really has no reason to cater to the traditional gamer anymore. Yet they do. And yet you complain. go figure.
enygmasoft
eday2010 wrote:
enygmasoft wrote:
why did nintendo forget about all of the people that put them on top. Why has the wii forsaken us, I havent had a game worth buying since metroid prime 3 came out.


Uh, what? How have they forgotten you? They've already released Metroid Prime 3, Super Mario Galaxy, Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Super Smash Bros Brawl, Punch-Out!!, Super Paper Mario, and will be releasing this year and next Sin & Punishment 2, Super Mario Galaxy 2, New Super Mario Bros Wii, Metroid: Other M, Metroid Prime Trilogy, a new Zelda game... I mean, what the hell do you want from them? Nintendo is delivering excellent games. You should focus on the third party developers and get off this lame bandwagon of saying the Wii has forsaken you and that Nintendo has forgotten about you. It's a bunch of malarkey.

Nintendo tried catering to people like you with the Gamecube, and they finished in third place out of 4 consoles, one of which died before the Gamecube came out. You gamers had forsaken and forgotten about Nintendo. So instead of catering to the whiny, fickle, never-happy traditional gamer, Nintendo targeted everybody and found success again. That is why they are on top, not because of you and traditional gamers. After the Super NES, Nintendo wasn't on top anymore. The fickle gamer went to the Playstation, and if it wasn't for the newcomers to gaming, Nintendo wouldn't be on top again. So Nintendo really has no reason to cater to the traditional gamer anymore. Yet they do. And yet you complain. go figure.


Yes i got those but keep in mind that metroid wasmtht last good game to come out in a while, and them puchout.
LostOverThere
enygmasoft wrote:
Yes i got those but keep in mind that metroid wasmtht last good game to come out in a while, and them puchout.


Damn it man! Seeing you haven't bought a game since MP3 you ought to get Super Smash Bros Brawl. Wait no, you NEED to get SSBB. If there was a Nintendo constitution, this game would be a requirement to live.

But seriously, give Nintendo a break, let's remember Punch-Out!! only came out a few months ago. Smile

I would seriously recommend checking out some of the amazing 3rd party offerings coming out this Summer. Tiger Woods PGA 10, The Conduit or Grand Slam Tennis are all great games that have been released in the past week.
wombatrpgs
LostOverThere wrote:


Damn it man! Seeing you haven't bought a game since MP3 you ought to get Super Smash Bros Brawl. Wait no, you NEED to get SSBB. If there was a Nintendo constitution, this game would be a requirement to live.


I agree with this completely. If you haven't played Brawl I wouldn't judge just yet. There's definitely a LOT there... Give it a try. Obviously better than a lot of what you've been playing.
hangnhu
I haven't play electronic games in ages, but I tried the Wii the other day, gosh it so tiring, just playing the boxing thing
you know, I actually like it more than the normal gameboy thing
if I have money to spare, might buy one
enygmasoft
It is amazing how much the Wii console used promise when I first got it I was a big nintendo fan and somewhere in this mess to capture our more casual gamer, what about me, I feel in love with zeldo since its first inception on nintendo. and now what agout me.
wombatrpgs
enygmasoft wrote:
It is amazing how much the Wii console used promise when I first got it I was a big nintendo fan and somewhere in this mess to capture our more casual gamer, what about me, I feel in love with zeldo since its first inception on nintendo. and now what agout me.


...

...

Played Brawl yet?
eday2010
enygmasoft wrote:
It is amazing how much the Wii console used promise when I first got it I was a big nintendo fan and somewhere in this mess to capture our more casual gamer, what about me, I feel in love with zeldo since its first inception on nintendo. and now what agout me.


Are you still going on about how Nintendo forgot about you? Are all the games I listed for you last month not enough, on top of the third party games that are really good?

It's not all about you. Time to get over yourself and realize that times have changed, the target audience has changed, and that if the Wii only catered to players like you and me instead of everyone, Nintendo would probably be in last place again. Gamers like you certainly didn't help Nintendo much during the last generation; that's why they targeted a very wde audience.

There are more than enough games for you. Quit your belly aching and start playing them!
QrafTee
eday2010 wrote:
enygmasoft wrote:
It is amazing how much the Wii console used promise when I first got it I was a big nintendo fan and somewhere in this mess to capture our more casual gamer, what about me, I feel in love with zeldo since its first inception on nintendo. and now what agout me.


Are you still going on about how Nintendo forgot about you? Are all the games I listed for you last month not enough, on top of the third party games that are really good?

The new Zelda game isn't a "core" game. You have a point with the two Mario games and the Metroid game, but that's three games compared to a larger repertoire with the 360 and PS3.
eday2010
Zelda has been around since the 80s. It's as much a traditional game, or "core" game if you want to use that stupid term, as anything out there and more so than a lot of the new IPs from recent years. And it doesn't even matter if you were referring to the new DS Zelda game of the New Wii Zelda game. And I listed more than Metroid and Mario games. I'd like an explanation of how the new Zelda game isn't a traditional game.

And most of the stuff coming out on the PS3/360 are first and thrd person shooters. Like there aren't enough of those already. Just about everything is one of these two types of games. So I would hardly call that a larger repertoire.
QrafTee
eday2010 wrote:
Zelda has been around since the 80s. It's as much a traditional game, or "core" game if you want to use that stupid term, as anything out there and more so than a lot of the new IPs from recent years. And it doesn't even matter if you were referring to the new DS Zelda game of the New Wii Zelda game. And I listed more than Metroid and Mario games. I'd like an explanation of how the new Zelda game isn't a traditional game.

And most of the stuff coming out on the PS3/360 are first and thrd person shooters. Like there aren't enough of those already. Just about everything is one of these two types of games. So I would hardly call that a larger repertoire.

I was talking about Spirit Tracks, don't tell me it counts.

Yes, if you're going to generalize two gaming consoles as FPS and TPS gaming consoles then that'd be saying the Wii is for kids. Obviously both aren't true.

Now you may be right about the Xbox 360, but maybe you haven't heard of InFamous, LittleBigPlanet, Uncharted 1 and 2, Heavenly Sword, Valkyria Chronicles, Ratchet and Clank Future: Tools of Destruction, Motorstorm: Pacific Rift, and Gran Turismo 5.

Were you serious when you listed Punch-Out? It's just a rehash of the old game--although that can be a good thing--but after two decades since Super Punch-Out, you'd think Nintendo would have... spruced it up a little. Metroid Prime Trilogy is just Nintendo's attempt to make a quick buck--along with all the other remade GCN games with "Wii Controls."

As for Sin and Punishment 2, do you really know enough about the game to list it? Another on-rail shooting game for the Wii? House of the Dead for the Wii and Overkill was lame. Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles was surprisingly good and I'm looking forward to Darkside Chronicles, but what do you really know about this new title?

Nintendo has simply failed to step it up like Reggie promised. Kicking ass and taking names? More like making cash and being lame. Who knows, maybe the first true Zelda Wii game--Twilight Princess was just a port--will rival Ocarina of Time, but we won't know until 2010 at least.
eday2010
QrafTee wrote:

I was talking about Spirit Tracks, don't tell me it counts.


I was referring to Wii games only, since that is what enygmasoft was crying about.

But yes, Spirit Tracks counts. How does it not. Because it has a cartoony art style? So what? That has nothing to do with it. It has to do with gameplay. Phantom Hourglass is as fun a Zelda game as any I have played, and Spirit Tracks has the same gameplay. So yes, it definitely counts, regardless of whether people like the train aspect or not.


QrafTee wrote:

Yes, if you're going to generalize two gaming consoles as FPS and TPS gaming consoles then that'd be saying the Wii is for kids. Obviously both aren't true.

Now you may be right about the Xbox 360, but maybe you haven't heard of InFamous, LittleBigPlanet, Uncharted 1 and 2, Heavenly Sword, Valkyria Chronicles, Ratchet and Clank Future: Tools of Destruction, Motorstorm: Pacific Rift, and Gran Turismo 5.


I have heard of all those games, and I wasn't generalizing the two consoles. However, a lot of the "news" lately revolves around first- and third person shooters. There are plenty of other kinds of games for the 360 as well, but most of the attention for those two consoles goes to shooters.

QrafTee wrote:

Were you serious when you listed Punch-Out? It's just a rehash of the old game--although that can be a good thing--but after two decades since Super Punch-Out, you'd think Nintendo would have... spruced it up a little. Metroid Prime Trilogy is just Nintendo's attempt to make a quick buck--along with all the other remade GCN games with "Wii Controls."


Yes, I was serious. It's a traditional arcadey games. Had they spruced it up beyond the presentation and some of the controls, people would have complained because it wasn't true to the original games. By the way, it hasn't been two decades since Super Punch-Out. As far as Metroid Prime Trilogy and the other New Play Control games, it's not so much about making a quick buck (which every company wants to do - don't kid yourself), as it is about giving the people who are new to gaming a chance to play some of the games from the last gen on the Wii. I am not talking about people who follow gaming; I am talking about those whose first console is a Wii, who don't really know Gamecube games can be played on the Wii and who don't have Gamecube controllers. Tracking down the original game and controllers will come up more expensive for these people than buying the Wii remake of the game.

QrafTee wrote:

As for Sin and Punishment 2, do you really know enough about the game to list it? Another on-rail shooting game for the Wii? House of the Dead for the Wii and Overkill was lame. Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles was surprisingly good and I'm looking forward to Darkside Chronicles, but what do you really know about this new title?


All I know is that a lot of people liked the first game, so there is reason to suspect that the second one will be just as good. I also know there are a lot of people looking forward to this one. Enygmasoft was whining about the lack of games for him, so I was listing some based on what others were interested in who were traditional gamers.

QrafTee wrote:

Nintendo has simply failed to step it up like Reggie promised. Kicking ass and taking names? More like making cash and being lame. Who knows, maybe the first true Zelda Wii game--Twilight Princess was just a port--will rival Ocarina of Time, but we won't know until 2010 at least.


So why is it solely up to Nintendo to "step it up"? Third parties have a responsibility too to put out good games if they want to make money and have a good reputation. An Nintendo has "stepped it up". Did you miss E3 or something? And don't forget: you and I and baby enygmasoft are not the main focus of Nintendo with the Wii. Anyone who cannot accept that should not have purchased the console. I knew full well that Nintendo wasn't going after the traditional gamer when I got one. I don't bitch and moan and cry about it. I just enjoy the games that come along that I am interested in. If I need more, I have a 360 for that.
LostOverThere
Probably won't comment too much here as QrafTee is more then welcome to his own opinion. Just a few things I'd like to "correct".

QrafTee wrote:
Were you serious when you listed Punch-Out? It's just a rehash of the old game

Not entirely true. Once you complete the "campaign" (as you will), you get to play the fighters again with completely different patterns.

QrafTee wrote:
Metroid Prime Trilogy is just Nintendo's attempt to make a quick buck--along with all the other remade GCN games with "Wii Controls."

Nicely downplayed. Smile

The original games are being marginally upgraded with a new lighting system, faster door times, MP3 style controls, and other small graphical fixes here and there. It really depends which way you look at it. On one hand you're getting all three games, for essentially the price of one, but others may look at it as an "upgrade of a re-release in a pretty pretty box". Wink
QrafTee
eday2010: Nintendo has to "step it up" because it is what they promised--at least that's what Reggie promised on behalf of Nintendo. Can you trust a company that can't live up to its promises? If you can't trust a company, why bother investing in their hardware? And since the days of the NES, Nintendo has been moving forward with releasing their own games of the highest quality. Especially during the N64 and GCN era when they were losing third-party support, Nintendo almost single-handedly kept their consoles afloat with their first-party games.

All in all, I am looking forward to Other M. I hope it becomes successful and brings Team Ninja and Nintendo closer to collaborate on future projects together as well as stimulate relationships with other third parties like Square Enix so we can have a true Super Mario RPG 2 to enjoy.

And you're right about Super Punch-out, I meant almost two decades, not two decades. I was really hoping the full roster from Punch-out AND Super Punch-out to be offered in the newest installment. I will be really angry if they're released as DLC.

LostOverThere: You're right, it really does depend how you look at the Trilogy... I see it more as a "Half Empty" than a "Half Full," I suppose. However, I'd accept a Mother (Earthbound) Trilogy as a "Half Full."
eday2010
So how has Nintendo not stepped it up at E3? Did they not announce enough new traditional games?
enygmasoft
eday2010 wrote:
So how has Nintendo not stepped it up at E3? Did they not announce enough new traditional games?


Nintendo has pretty good to me over the years, and yes I remember when NIntendo almost didnhav no third party support and it did surprisingly well. Nintendo's are the only systems that I ever reserved. I typically get those day. The only nintendo that I did not get on release day was the NES, which I got in 1988. which was around the same time Zelda came out.
eday2010
While Nintendo has taken a different direction this generation, they haven't changed how they put out games. I remember during the Super NES days that top tier games from Nintendo were few and far between. However, the third parties put a lot more effort into their games and offered a ton of other things to play. In the 8 years the Super NES was supported, Nintendo published less than 45 games for it in North America. In less than the three years the Wii has been out, they have already published 28 games, with at least another 4 coming this year and another 7 next year and 2011. They are ahead of their Super NES pace. While they published more games on the N64 and Gamecube when they had fewer third party publishers, they have plenty of third party publishers now. The third parties need to step it up and release something other than mini-games and half-assed ports and put out some original titles.
LostOverThere
I find it somewhat amusing when people say Nintendo has stopped listening to their fans. Nintendo has never listened to their fans, especially during the SNES days, and not listening has got them where they're at now.
QrafTee
LostOverThere wrote:
I find it somewhat amusing when people say Nintendo has stopped listening to their fans. Nintendo has never listened to their fans, especially during the SNES days, and not listening has got them where they're at now.

Um... A Link to the Past? Super Mario World? Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island? Earthbound? Super Mario RPG? Super Metroid? C'mon man... you're crazy.

However, Twilight Princess was alright, but it was ultimately a Wii port of the GCN game. Super Mario Galaxy was brilliant, but 2 looks like an expansion pack rather than a full-fledged game. Metroid Prime 3 was mediocore, the Trilogy is just an attempt to make money on things they've already had out in the market. Mother 3 was reduced to a GBA game which is still imprisoned in Japan for some reason. And all these NDS Mario & Luigi RPG and GCN/Wii Paper Mario--although the Paper Mario series is alright--titles are really a yawn because they lack the touches to make them as good as Super Mario RPG. I do have faith that Other M and the new Zelda 2010 title may be good... but we'll have to see. All this Big Brain Academy, Wii Sports, Wii Play, Wii Sports Resort, Wii Winter Sports, Wii Fit, Wii Pulse Sensing Garbage, Wii Music--this one is truly a garbage title, and such have not been helping us "traditional" gamers. Although a little bit of Wii Sports here and there can be entertaining at times, I'll admit.
LostOverThere
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Metroid Prime 3 was mediocore

What? Seriously? It was brilliant. You're definitely in the minority on this one. Wink

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Mother 3 was reduced to a GBA game which is still imprisoned in Japan for some reason

When Mother 3 was released, the GBA had been well suppressed by the DS in the US and Europe, and for that reason wasn't released in those regions.

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Wii Sports, Wii Play, Wii Sports Resort, Wii Winter Sports, Wii Fit, Wii Pulse Sensing Garbage, Wii Music--this one is truly a garbage title, and such have not been helping us "traditional" gamers.

All those titles come from Nintendo's casual development team (EAD2). Of course a casual team won't help Traditional gamers, and it's silly to think that just because Nintendo has a casual team, all the other teams are going to stop working because Nintendo has a casual team. Furthermore, the team has existed since the GameCube days, so it isn't anything new. Our precious Zelda (EAD4), Mario (EAD5), and Other M (TN) wouldn't work any faster whether that team existed or not.
QrafTee
LostOverThere wrote:
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Metroid Prime 3 was mediocore

What? Seriously? It was brilliant. You're definitely in the minority on this one. Wink

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Mother 3 was reduced to a GBA game which is still imprisoned in Japan for some reason

When Mother 3 was released, the GBA had been well suppressed by the DS in the US and Europe, and for that reason wasn't released in those regions.

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Wii Sports, Wii Play, Wii Sports Resort, Wii Winter Sports, Wii Fit, Wii Pulse Sensing Garbage, Wii Music--this one is truly a garbage title, and such have not been helping us "traditional" gamers.

All those titles come from Nintendo's casual development team (EAD2). Of course a casual team won't help Traditional gamers, and it's silly to think that just because Nintendo has a casual team, all the other teams are going to stop working because Nintendo has a casual team. Furthermore, the team has existed since the GameCube days, so it isn't anything new. Our precious Zelda (EAD4), Mario (EAD5), and Other M (TN) wouldn't work any faster whether that team existed or not.

True, the teams will exist as they are, but allocation of resources--aka money--do affect the production of games. If Nintendo smells money in the "casual" sector then those resources go to the teams responsible for those type of games.
LostOverThere
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True, the teams will exist as they are, but allocation of resources--aka money--do affect the production of games. If Nintendo smells money in the "casual" sector then those resources go to the teams responsible for those type of games.

Good Point. Though I'm not sure whether I'd want the same guy who designed Wii Play to design the next Zelda title for me. Wink
invisable125
I have a nintendo WII myself but it isnt usually useable because of the way you play the games. Luckily, with WII motion plus, we can have more accuracy for ourselfs. There are good games like the mario games and zelda but I think that the WII should have other games to it aswell. Then more people would like it.
LostOverThere
invisable125 wrote:
I think that the WII should have other games to it aswell. Then more people would like it.

What were you thinking of? Just looking at this list shows hundreds of games available on the platform. But personally, I would like to see a few more FPS titles. Actually, I'm not a fan of the genre at all, but apart from The Conduit, Medal of Honor: Heroes 2, and COD5, there really aren't many quality FPS titles on Wii (Metroid is an FPA in this case).
Fanghai44
great party system
and it's pretty good and entertaining just about any girl :]
wombatrpgs
Hm...

So two things:
Just got Mario Kart Wii and it's actually pretty entertaining. Never done any kart before, definitely not like any other racing game. Strangely addictive.
However, my disc reader also broke. Meaning no more Wii for a while.
LostOverThere
wombatrpgs wrote:
However, my disc reader also broke. Meaning no more Wii for a while.

Is it broken or just damaged? A few friends had problems and all it took to fix it was to buy the official Nintendo Disc Cleaner.

And yes, Mario Kart Wii is addictive as all hell.
QrafTee
wombatrpgs wrote:
Hm...

So two things:
Just got Mario Kart Wii and it's actually pretty entertaining. Never done any kart before, definitely not like any other racing game. Strangely addictive.
However, my disc reader also broke. Meaning no more Wii for a while.


Must be your first Mario Kart game. I prefer the GCN and DS version. Of course the SNES version will always have a place in my heart. I don't like the N64 version much, but many say it is the best out of the series.
SESE
wii is the best game i 've ever played . It's actractive and intresting . It;s not cheap but if you buy one you;ll find it the best .;
Wii rulz
enygmasoft
SESE wrote:
wii is the best game i 've ever played . It's actractive and intresting . It;s not cheap but if you buy one you;ll find it the best .;
Wii rulz


Well that really depends on what you are looking for, since fun games permeate with an amazingly good time available for wii games the kids have more fun with them.
wombatrpgs
QrafTee wrote:
Must be your first Mario Kart game. I prefer the GCN and DS version. Of course the SNES version will always have a place in my heart. I don't like the N64 version much, but many say it is the best out of the series.


Yes, it is. At least I have taste enough not to use the wheel thing. But I'm too lazy to get the Wii fixed, so that should mean something.
eday2010
wombatrpgs wrote:

Yes, it is. At least I have taste enough not to use the wheel thing. But I'm too lazy to get the Wii fixed, so that should mean something.


I actually find using the wheel to be rather fun. It's a nice change from always using the analog stick. I haven't played Mario Kart in a while because after a while that game gets really annoying. You could run a flawless race, and just as you are coming up to the finish, about to take first place, you get nailed with a red shell or a blue shell, and end up finishing in the bottom half. Especially in the later races. Not exactly my idea of a good time.
1528tom
Yea i uset to have WII,

you just get over the games so quick unlike on PS3's and XBOX360

RATINGS FROM MY EXPEREICES:

WII: Great enjoyment for the first 2hrs then it just becomes boring arm movments

PS3: GREAT ALLROUND, wouldnt have mind it being a bit cheaper

XBOX360: Most enjoyment from a caming console i have ever encountered, seems to longer to connect to live, unlike the ps3 did. but prefer paying the cheaper price
1528tom
THE BEST EVER COMPUTER GAME:

Age of empires

I have had this game for who know's how long and i still enjoy getting out and playing it for countless hours.

all i can say is the creators of this game are the pioneers of the gaming world, if there is game that can hold its value of playing time better than this, i need to know.

I can honestly say the greatest computer game ever made for its age.

Its like comparing a ferrarri to datsun 180b, it just makes the other competion looks like a disgrace



11 of 10 for this game Smile Smile Smile
kriszara
Just picked up a Wii fit after playing on one all weekend at a friends house. This thing is a lot more fun than I gave it credit for.
My daughter spends almost all her free time on it and my husband has started using it on his lunch break.
Lots of fun, we do mostly the balance games and the hula-hooping under cardio.
Great investment.
eday2010
kriszara wrote:
Just picked up a Wii fit after playing on one all weekend at a friends house. This thing is a lot more fun than I gave it credit for.
My daughter spends almost all her free time on it and my husband has started using it on his lunch break.
Lots of fun, we do mostly the balance games and the hula-hooping under cardio.
Great investment.


It's a good piece of equipment. Wii Fit Plus coming out later this year will make it better, since you'll be able to create workouts, so you don't have to get interrupted in between each activity.
wombatrpgs
1528tom wrote:
THE BEST EVER COMPUTER GAME:
Age of empires
I have had this game for who know's how long and i still enjoy getting out and playing it for countless hours.
all i can say is the creators of this game are the pioneers of the gaming world, if there is game that can hold its value of playing time better than this, i need to know.
I can honestly say the greatest computer game ever made for its age.
Its like comparing a ferrarri to datsun 180b, it just makes the other competion looks like a disgrace
11 of 10 for this game Smile Smile Smile


What?

Wii Fit Plus sounds interesting. Might be a little less costly as the balance thing should already be purchased.
eday2010
wombatrpgs wrote:
1528tom wrote:
THE BEST EVER COMPUTER GAME:
Age of empires
I have had this game for who know's how long and i still enjoy getting out and playing it for countless hours.
all i can say is the creators of this game are the pioneers of the gaming world, if there is game that can hold its value of playing time better than this, i need to know.
I can honestly say the greatest computer game ever made for its age.
Its like comparing a ferrarri to datsun 180b, it just makes the other competion looks like a disgrace
11 of 10 for this game Smile Smile Smile


What?

Wii Fit Plus sounds interesting. Might be a little less costly as the balance thing should already be purchased.


Wii Fit Plus will be $20.
QrafTee
eday2010 wrote:
Wii Fit Plus will be $20.

Nintendo is beating a dead horse trying to milk the Wii gimmicks for all it is worth. What I'm afraid of is that it'll continue working. I rather have the next Zelda, or a new core gamer-oriented IP... And what ever happened to Pikmin 3?
wombatrpgs
That's pretty much correct. I just wish they'd get over the gimmicks and move on to more serious applications and the like. It's nice to have the movement as an accessory to the game, not the entire game.
catscratches
Yeah, stop giving out new versions of the same concept! Now give us the 16'th Zelda game and Pikmin 3!
QrafTee
catscratches wrote:
Yeah, stop giving out new versions of the same concept! Now give us the 16'th Zelda game and Pikmin 3!

As long as the 16th Zelda isn't Metroid Prime Trilogy w/Wii Controls, I'm good.

The problem is that the Wii gimmicks are the same versions of the same concept with a different overlay. The evolution from The Legend of Zelda to Twilight Princess is immense. The evolution from Wii Sports to Sports Resort--although in a much shorter time period--is atrocious; same with Wii Fit and Wii Fit Plus. Because it's so inexpensive for them, they're just dumping the same games essentially once a year which shows how much care they actually have for the game.
wombatrpgs
catscratches wrote:
Yeah, stop giving out new versions of the same concept! Now give us the 16'th Zelda game and Pikmin 3!


Well at least I didn't say that... In any case there's a plot associated there rather than gimmick-only.
eday2010
The thing is, the "gimmicks" make them lots of money. That is what they ae here for. They aren't here just to amuse you guys. They are here to make money. So they will continue with the Wii "gimmicks", and they will continue to sell because they are actually fun (except for Wii Music).

And while they are putting out Wii Fit Plus, they are still giving you whiners a new Zelda, a new Metroid, two new Mario games, Sin and Punishment, and so on.

And what exactly is wrong about them releasing Metroid Prime Trilogy? A ton of Wii owners are first time gamers, and re releasing the first two games gives those people the chance to play those games. Enhanced graphics and controls; what's to complain about? How many of you are complaining about God of War I and II being ported to the PS3? Are those of you complaining about the Metroid Trilogy also complaining about that? Hmm?

And I like how Qraftree is comparing the evolution a 20-year-old series with many entries to a new series, Wii Sports, which has only one sequel, and to a series that doesn't even have a sequel, Wii Fit. Wii Fit Plus isn't a sequel; it's like a game patch, adding some functionality and new activities. It's not a sequel, and it's not the same kind of game as Zelda; nor is Wii Sports. So trying to compare Zelda with those is ludicrous. How much evolution is there between the Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask?
QrafTee
eday2010 wrote:
And I like how Qraftree is comparing the evolution a 20-year-old series with many entries to a new series, Wii Sports, which has only one sequel, and to a series that doesn't even have a sequel, Wii Fit. Wii Fit Plus isn't a sequel; it's like a game patch, adding some functionality and new activities. It's not a sequel, and it's not the same kind of game as Zelda; nor is Wii Sports. So trying to compare Zelda with those is ludicrous. How much evolution is there between the Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask?

You now see the whole flaw in your own statement now, don't you? Like you said yourself it is more like a PATCH. A patch is supposed to be FREE. Think about it, if you're any type of gamer or consumer and you're forced to pay for a patch, then you should--as a human being--be mad.

No, you're not forced to buy the patch, but you're forced to pay for it if you want it. And it is a PATCH. That's like Microsoft charging money for a Service Pack or each and every update. That is absurd! At least the 16th Zelda game have its own storyline, have their own game mechanics, and can stand on its own two feet running on different game engines. That's like having to buy each patch that came out from Starcraft to fix or improve on things the developers messed up on the first time.

Do you not understand how wrong it is? You must be a thick-headed fanboy with money exploding out of your wallet every time you open it. Everyone is entitled to your opinion... or so they say, but now that I've heard your rebuttal I have to say you are only entitled to your own opinion if you have an IQ over 75.

As for God of War I & II, I think it's wrong too. I never said it was excluded or any given reason. Don't read more into what I said than I did.

Wii Sports, under all of the gimmicks, is as complicated as a flash-based game and to charge you more money for Wii Sports Resort, Winter mumbo jumbo, Wii Fit, Fit Plus, Wii Jog, Wii Walk, Wii Patty Cake, Wii Play, Wii Play Too Much, Wii Pay Too Much, Wii Music, Wii Read, Wii Will Do Anything Nintendo Says, etc. should just as you, eday2010, said and should be patches; free game patches--although I'm not sure the Wii with it's 512MB flash can hold all of it.

You must be the same person who is okay with the whole Motion Plus BS as well. I think it is wrong that Nintendo is charging us, their customers, to fix their own mistake. We're essentially paying money to get our controllers fixed so that they work like they're supposed to. Wow... that's really some dirty dealing.

When I see how MS and Nintendo can blatantly treat their customers like garbage--Sony is not excluded, but they've been doing it less probably because they're behind in sales--and their customers take it willingly... it's sad. I can see how it is great in a business sense, but it's sad from an anthropologist's point of view. It's more like the degradation of man and their common sense.
eday2010
QrafTee wrote:

You now see the whole flaw in your own statement now, don't you? Like you said yourself it is more like a PATCH. A patch is supposed to be FREE. Think about it, if you're any type of gamer or consumer and you're forced to pay for a patch, then you should--as a human being--be mad.


Patch wasn't the correct term to use. Wii Fit Plus is like an expansion pack, which you DO pay for. While adding some functionality that can be considered a patch, it also has more games and exercises to do, which is like an expansion pack. Bottom line is, if you don't like it, DON'T buy it. That should end the complaining.

No, you're not forced to buy the patch, but you're forced to pay for it if you want it. And it is a PATCH. That's like Microsoft charging money for a Service Pack or each and every update. That is absurd! At least the 16th Zelda game have its own storyline, have their own game mechanics, and can stand on its own two feet running on different game engines. That's like having to buy each patch that came out from Starcraft to fix or improve on things the developers messed up on the first time.

QrafTee wrote:

Do you not understand how wrong it is? You must be a thick-headed fanboy with money exploding out of your wallet every time you open it. Everyone is entitled to your opinion... or so they say, but now that I've heard your rebuttal I have to say you are only entitled to your own opinion if you have an IQ over 75.


Bravo resorting to immature name calling. Way to take the high road. When people can't make a valid point, they resort to personal insults. Good job nullifying any arguments you have made thus far.

QrafTee wrote:

You must be the same person who is okay with the whole Motion Plus BS as well. I think it is wrong that Nintendo is charging us, their customers, to fix their own mistake. We're essentially paying money to get our controllers fixed so that they work like they're supposed to. Wow... that's really some dirty dealing.


How is Wii MotionPlus a mistake? Because 1:1 wasn't economically or technologically feasible (small enough) for the Wii Remote 4 years ago? The remotes already worked fine; they just work better with M+. You don't like it? Don't ****** buy it.

I see you are complaining about Microsoft and Nintendo, but not barely talking about Sony. Shouldn't you be complaining about paying $55 for a Dual Shock 3 controller even though you are paying for Sony's mistake and that Dual Shock 3 should have been included from the start? $55 seems like a lot more to pay for some vibration to fix a controller to work like they are supposed to as opposed to $20 for 1:1 motion. That seems to be more dirty dealing than Nintendo has done.
QrafTee
eday2010 wrote:
I see you are complaining about Microsoft and Nintendo, but not barely talking about Sony. Shouldn't you be complaining about paying $55 for a Dual Shock 3 controller even though you are paying for Sony's mistake and that Dual Shock 3 should have been included from the start? $55 seems like a lot more to pay for some vibration to fix a controller to work like they are supposed to as opposed to $20 for 1:1 motion. That seems to be more dirty dealing than Nintendo has done.

You seem to read more into what I say... or don't say continuously. I don't patronize you because I have no argument--because obvious I do--I patronize you because you seem to lack common sense.

Yes, Sony is at fault for not going with the Dual Shock 3, but unlike Nintendo's fault, they did it because of a lawsuit which they had to settle afterwards--they should've done what Microsoft did and settle it out of court then and there instead of having to pay Immersion (I think that's the company's name) a lot more money than they would have.

Nintendo brought out an incomplete product. Tell me that you want motion control and tell me the Wii Remote was what you expected of it. At least Sony did not make you have to buy a DS3 to play new games--yes you will need Motion Plus to play some games such as Sports Resort and third-party titles which require it.

Here's the main thing--so you don't jump into your own baseless conclusions again--Nintendo is making their customers pay for their controllers not working correctly from the get go. Sony is giving the option for their customers to buy controllers with vibration--but not required to play old and new games--after they realized they messed up by not following Microsoft's example to settle a lawsuit out of court.

You may see Sports Resort or Wii Fit Plus or Wii Play or Wii Murder or Wii What The Hell Am I Doing as an expansion pack, but I don't. Maybe I'm spoiled by Steam when they release large patches to add a hell of a lot of new additions to games like Team Fortress 2. Hell, even Blizzard throws a few bones for World of Warcraft players by releasing large patches with significant upgrades beyond the expansion packs for free. Maybe being a PC gamer makes me expect too much from console companies.

I don't know, but I don't like taking the whole "bend over and take it" approach as a consumer.
eday2010
I am telling you that I wanted a Wii because of the motion control, and the Wii Remote is what I expected. I wasn't expecting 1:1 control. How do you know that Nintendo at the time wanted 1:1 control? Who are you to say HOW the controls were supposed to work at the start? As far as anyone is concerned, the controllers work just as they were designed to. that means correctly. that is not to say that a couple of years down the road, they see room for improvement, and thus improve them. They could have left the controls just the way they were and a lot of people wouldn't have cared. Right now it's an optional attachment; one that not only comes bundled with Wii Sports Resort and Tigers Wood 10, but that isn't expensive to get. Maybe it's $20 more than some people want to spend, but if that is the case, don't buy it. No one is making you buy it, and no one is making you play any games that require it.

Just like Wii Fit Plus costs a little extra for more content, it's the same way on the other consoles. A lot of extra game content costs money. The only difference is that you don't have a tangible version of that additional content, unless you go and spend $60 for a Game of the Year edition of the game. You probably are expecting too much from the conosle manufacturers. Maybe you should stick with your little computer.
enygmasoft
catscratches wrote:
Yeah, stop giving out new versions of the same concept! Now give us the 16'th Zelda game and Pikmin 3!


Now for those of who did not pass every single one of these zelda games. You can clearly put me down not a nintedo fan but a zelda fan. Now heres the proble is that you cant have one withour the other.
QrafTee
eday2010 wrote:
I am telling you that I wanted a Wii because of the motion control, and the Wii Remote is what I expected. I wasn't expecting 1:1 control. How do you know that Nintendo at the time wanted 1:1 control? Who are you to say HOW the controls were supposed to work at the start? As far as anyone is concerned, the controllers work just as they were designed to. that means correctly. that is not to say that a couple of years down the road, they see room for improvement, and thus improve them. They could have left the controls just the way they were and a lot of people wouldn't have cared. Right now it's an optional attachment; one that not only comes bundled with Wii Sports Resort and Tigers Wood 10, but that isn't expensive to get. Maybe it's $20 more than some people want to spend, but if that is the case, don't buy it. No one is making you buy it, and no one is making you play any games that require it.

Just like Wii Fit Plus costs a little extra for more content, it's the same way on the other consoles. A lot of extra game content costs money. The only difference is that you don't have a tangible version of that additional content, unless you go and spend $60 for a Game of the Year edition of the game. You probably are expecting too much from the conosle manufacturers. Maybe you should stick with your little computer.

How do I know they wanted 1:1? They released the Motion Plus, that's how. How did I know they wanted it at the time, because they eventually released the Motion Plus. How did- whatever, the answer is Motion Plus.

Am I expecting too much from console manufacturers? Am I expecting too much as a gamer? As a consumer? As a PC user? As a console owner? Whether I am a gamer or a consumer, I think it's wrong to get used and abused by any corporation. You can't even admit that?
eday2010
If you get used and abused, it's because you let them. MotionPlus is not mandatory, nor is it expensive. If I didn't want it, I would not have bought it. Instead of complaining about Nintendo "fixing" something to make it better, like you, I just enjoy it. The same way you now enough your vibrating PS3 controller. And the M+ is being bundled with all sorts of games, so in the end the thing doesn't even cost $20.

I was not obligated to buy Tiger Woods 10 or Wii Sports Resort. I WANTED to get those games. And I am happy that they were bundled with M+ instead of having to buy it separately. See, instead of whining and complaining about something or other, I choose to spend my time enjoying things. Instead of Nintendo delaying the Wii by two years just so you could have your 1:1 right away (which would still be the same time), and potentially putting the company in serious financial trouble while waiting, they improved it for cheap down the road, bundling it with games to reduce the cost of it to a mere $10 or even nothing at all.

If you are worried about being used and abused, worry about Microsoft and Sony charging ridiculous amounts for accessories ($50 for a PS3 chat pad? $100 for an Xbox wireless adapter?).
QrafTee
eday2010 wrote:
If you get used and abused, it's because you let them. MotionPlus is not mandatory, nor is it expensive. If I didn't want it, I would not have bought it. Instead of complaining about Nintendo "fixing" something to make it better, like you, I just enjoy it. The same way you now enough your vibrating PS3 controller. And the M+ is being bundled with all sorts of games, so in the end the thing doesn't even cost $20.

I was not obligated to buy Tiger Woods 10 or Wii Sports Resort. I WANTED to get those games. And I am happy that they were bundled with M+ instead of having to buy it separately. See, instead of whining and complaining about something or other, I choose to spend my time enjoying things. Instead of Nintendo delaying the Wii by two years just so you could have your 1:1 right away (which would still be the same time), and potentially putting the company in serious financial trouble while waiting, they improved it for cheap down the road, bundling it with games to reduce the cost of it to a mere $10 or even nothing at all.

If you are worried about being used and abused, worry about Microsoft and Sony charging ridiculous amounts for accessories ($50 for a PS3 chat pad? $100 for an Xbox wireless adapter?).


Like I said before, it comes down to whether it is required or not. The fact is, it is not required for one to purchase that awful keyboard attachment for the PS3 or the overpriced wireless garbage for the 360--well you actually might have to if you only have a wireless network--to play a game.

You NEED to have the Motion Plus to play future Wii games because 1:1 motion control is what it should have been, it's what they admitted to messing up in the first place, and obviously it is what gamers wanted all along--remember how many people were mad that "motion controls" just turned out to be flicker gestures? It would be better if they sold it for $5 a pop, or bundle it with Wii Sports Resort for around $30.00-$35.00.

Now consider this, yes Sports Resort does bundle with it for $50.00, but it is a 4-player game so la-de-da. If you want to play it with 3 other people you're going to have to fork out another $60.00 because the game REQUIRES it.
LostOverThere
QrafTee, I'm not one to judge, and you certainly don't need to listen to me at all. But after reading through your posts I really think you should give it a rest. It's very clear to all of us that you dislike the Wii, but you've made your point, and it's just starting to get irritating. Sorry, just my 2 cents. Confused

Anyway, I've been meaning to try out the Bit. Trip series for a while now on WiiWare. I was going to make the jump the other day, but then I heard Bit Trip Void was coming, so I'm now waiting for that. Can anyone recommend the series? And out of Core and Beat, which is better? Cheers. Smile
QrafTee
LostOverThere wrote:
QrafTee, I'm not one to judge, and you certainly don't need to listen to me at all. But after reading through your posts I really think you should give it a rest. It's very clear to all of us that you dislike the Wii, but you've made your point, and it's just starting to get irritating. Sorry, just my 2 cents. Confused

Anyway, I've been meaning to try out the Bit. Trip series for a while now on WiiWare. I was going to make the jump the other day, but then I heard Bit Trip Void was coming, so I'm now waiting for that. Can anyone recommend the series? And out of Core and Beat, which is better? Cheers. Smile

Your two cents are noted.
wombatrpgs
QrafTee, you're right to a point... But all that really establishes is that it's commercial, just like every other console. It's more of a comparison against alternatives.
eday2010
QrafTee wrote:
Like I said before, it comes down to whether it is required or not. The fact is, it is not required for one to purchase that awful keyboard attachment for the PS3 or the overpriced wireless garbage for the 360--well you actually might have to if you only have a wireless network--to play a game.

You NEED to have the Motion Plus to play future Wii games because 1:1 motion control is what it should have been, it's what they admitted to messing up in the first place, and obviously it is what gamers wanted all along--remember how many people were mad that "motion controls" just turned out to be flicker gestures? It would be better if they sold it for $5 a pop, or bundle it with Wii Sports Resort for around $30.00-$35.00.

Now consider this, yes Sports Resort does bundle with it for $50.00, but it is a 4-player game so la-de-da. If you want to play it with 3 other people you're going to have to fork out another $60.00 because the game REQUIRES it.


I see you haven't played Wii Sports Resort, yet feel you can comment on it as though you have played it. While it is a 4-player game, you DON'T NEED 4 remotes nor 4 MotionPlus units. For a lot of the games, like bowling, you only need one. The others you can get by on two. Most people already have two controllers for the console. So you are looking at an extra $20 at most if you didn't pick up Tiger Woods 10 or another game bundled with MotionPlus. So nice try la-de-da, but do try to know what you are commenting on before doing so.

And not all future Wii games will need MotionPlus. Just as not all games now use the motion controls, not all the games will use MotionPlus.
enygmasoft
eday2010 wrote:
QrafTee wrote:
Like I said before, it comes down to whether it is required or not. The fact is, it is not required for one to purchase that awful keyboard attachment for the PS3 or the overpriced wireless garbage for the 360--well you actually might have to if you only have a wireless network--to play a game.

You NEED to have the Motion Plus to play future Wii games because 1:1 motion control is what it should have been, it's what they admitted to messing up in the first place, and obviously it is what gamers wanted all along--remember how many people were mad that "motion controls" just turned out to be flicker gestures? It would be better if they sold it for $5 a pop, or bundle it with Wii Sports Resort for around $30.00-$35.00.

Now consider this, yes Sports Resort does bundle with it for $50.00, but it is a 4-player game so la-de-da. If you want to play it with 3 other people you're going to have to fork out another $60.00 because the game REQUIRES it.


I see you haven't played Wii Sports Resort, yet feel you can comment on it as though you have played it. While it is a 4-player game, you DON'T NEED 4 remotes nor 4 MotionPlus units. For a lot of the games, like bowling, you only need one. The others you can get by on two. Most people already have two controllers for the console. So you are looking at an extra $20 at most if you didn't pick up Tiger Woods 10 or another game bundled with MotionPlus. So nice try la-de-da, but do try to know what you are commenting on before doing so.

And not all future Wii games will need MotionPlus. Just as not all games now use the motion controls, not all the games will use MotionPlus.


good times to be had by ny kids since they live on the Wii
LostOverThere
Price Cut confirmed. The Wii is now $199USD throughout. While in the United Kingdom, the Wii remains at it's normal price, but now includes Wii Sports Resort and MotionPlus.

And yes, like eday2010, in Wii Sports Resort, you only need 1 MotionPlus accessory to play 4 player games, for all of the sports except canoeing.
wombatrpgs
Great. I'm really sick of Xbox people claiming that it's cheaper.
gohgoh
i think the wii will win the market
its unique and offers another playing style and you can jump around and hit stuff aswell as playing normal console games
yes, other consoles could be better but wii is still better Laughing
enygmasoft
gohgoh wrote:
i think the wii will win the market
its unique and offers another playing style and you can jump around and hit stuff aswell as playing normal console games
yes, other consoles could be better but wii is still better Laughing


Sadly nintendo continues to make lesss than steller games for the wii leaving abig chunk of ists core support dengraphicc lut cold
Silayon
I bought a Wii when it was around $500. I kind of wished I didn't. I don't know... I think I've just grown out of gaming consoles :/
enygmasoft
[quote="Silayon"]I bought a Wii when it was around $500. I kind of wished I didn't. I don't know... I think I've just grown out of gaming consoles :/[/quote
wombatrpgs
Silayon wrote:
I bought a Wii when it was around $500. I kind of wished I didn't. I don't know... I think I've just grown out of gaming consoles :/


Hm... Where do you live? In most places it was $250 even at launch. I'll guess hyperbole or high import costs.
enygmasoft
[quote="eday2010"]
QrafTee wrote:

You now see the whole flaw in your own statement now, don't you? Like you said yourself it is more like a PATCH. A patch is supposed to be FREE. Think about it, if you're any type of gamer or consumer and you're forced to pay for a patch, then you should--as a human being--be mad.


Patch wasn't the correct term to use. Wii Fit Plus is like an expansion pack, which you DO pay for. While adding some functionality that can be considered a patch, it also has more games and exercises to do, which is like an expansion pack. Bottom line is, if you don't like it, DON'T buy it. That should end the complaining.

No, you're not forced to buy the patch, but you're forced to pay for it if you want it. And it is a PATCH. That's like Microsoft charging money for a Service Pack or each and every update. That is absurd! At least the 16th Zelda game have its own storyline, have their own game mechanics, and can stand on its own two feet running on different game engines. That's like having to buy each patch that came out from Starcraft to fix or improve on things the developers messed up on the first time.

QrafTee wrote:

Do you not understand how wrong it is? You must be a thick-headed fanboy with money exploding out of your wallet every time you open it. Everyone is entitled to your opinion... or so they say, but now that I've heard your rebuttal I have to say you are only entitled to your own opinion if you have an IQ over 75.


Bravo resorting to immature name calling. Way to take the high road. When people can't make a valid point, they resort to personal insults. Good job nullifying any arguments you have made thus far.

QrafTee wrote:

You must be the same person who is okay with the whole Motion Plus BS as well. I think it is wrong that Nintendo is charging us, their customers, to fix their own mistake. We're essentially paying money to get our controllers fixed so that they work like they're supposed to. Wow... that's really some dirty dealing.


How is Wii MotionPlus a mistake? Because 1:1 wasn't economically or technologically feasible (small enough) for the Wii Remote 4 years ago? The remotes already worked fine; they just work better with M+. You don't like it? Don't ****** buy it.

I see you are complaining about Microsoft and Nintendo, but not barely talking about Sony. Shouldn't you be complaining about paying $55 for a Dual Shock 3 controller even though you are paying for Sony's mistake and that Dual Shock 3 should have been included from the start? $55 seems like a lot more to pay for some vibration to fix a controller to work like they are supposed to as opposed to $20 for 1:1 motion. That seems to be more dirty dealing than Nintendo has done.[/quote
QrafTee
enygmasoft wrote:
...
... Is it just me or is it that every time you quote someone, your whole post gets ruined?
eday2010
So who else is extremely excited about New Super Mario Bros. Wii? Only 8 days until it's released. I haven't been this excited about a game in over a decade. Finally, a 2D Mario platformer on a home console. It took them long enough. In 23 years, they've only released 8 Mario games (proper platformers, not RPGs, sports games, or other spinoffs). They sure like to take their time, but at least they don't water things down by releasing crap games every of years like Sega has been doing with Sonic.

NSMBW will be getting all my attention the day it comes out and for a while after that. Some people are complaining that it has no online multiplayer, but that if fine with me. I prefer it having local multiplayer over online since in 10 years, I'll still be able to play multiplayer . The same can't really be said about online. There are a few games I tried to play online that are only a couple of years old, and couldn't because no one was playing them anymore. That's why I don't understand why people spend $60 for a game just to play the online portion. Besides, when you spit one of your friends into a pit with your Yoshi, it's more fun to see their reaction when they are in the same room with you. It should be a blast!
detsucks
Damn i love my Wii, i got it modchipped hehe. Especially love Mario Kart, love playing online and beating people Very Happy Those japanese people are so hard to beat! LOL!

I played Super Paper Mario, nearly finished the game, then i got stuck and i couldn't be bothered anymore haha. Super Mario Galaxy is also an awesome game, graphics are so good especially with my component cables Very Happy Shame there aren't any HDMI ones that i know of.
catscratches
I don't get the point of modchipping it, considering you can softmod it for free and get even more added functionality.
wombatrpgs
eday2010 wrote:
In 23 years, they've only released 8 Mario games (proper platformers, not RPGs, sports games, or other spinoffs). They sure like to take their time, but at least they don't water things down by releasing crap games every of years like Sega has been doing with Sonic.


I wouldn't say that... The miscellaneous spinoffs really do water things down... I haven't been enthused about anything Mario since Mario 64. Same goes for the Sonic the Hedgehog series. I'll have to look at NSMB though; it looks pretty similar to the original. Even so, most of the platformers in the genre since have been awkward and I hate the graphics.
enygmasoft
[quote="wombatrpgs"]
eday2010 wrote:
In 23 years, they've only released 8 Mario games (proper platformers, not RPGs, sports games, or other spinoffs). They sure like to take their time, but at least they don't water things down by releasing crap games every of years like Sega has been doing with Sonic.


I wouldn't say that... The miscellaneous spinoffs really do water things down... I haven't been enthused about anything Mario since Mario 64. Same goes for the Sonic the Hedgehog series. I'll have to look at NSMB though; it looks pretty similar to the original. Even so, most of the platformers in the genre since have been awkward and I hate the graphics.[/quote

That is sadly true now that nintendo wii is kiddie central
wombatrpgs
enygmasoft wrote:
That is sadly true now that nintendo wii is kiddie central


Some stuff is still fun though. Mario Kart Wii and such, but it's just not the same.

I really liked Mega Man 9 in regards to its approach to the series. Back to the basics, well-executed, and very fun. I wish the classic platformers would do this... I'd pay a full $50 for a game with the original SMB physics engine and 250+ levels. Throw in some online multiplayer (ala the GBC Deluxe version), a couple challenge levels (like the Lost Levels), and maybe a level editor, and I think it would be a quality game. Same goes for the Sonic series... For both of them, once the physics, graphics, and map elements are there, it's not like you can't find some level designer to crank out courses.
eday2010
wombatrpgs wrote:
eday2010 wrote:
In 23 years, they've only released 8 Mario games (proper platformers, not RPGs, sports games, or other spinoffs). They sure like to take their time, but at least they don't water things down by releasing crap games every of years like Sega has been doing with Sonic.


I wouldn't say that... The miscellaneous spinoffs really do water things down... I haven't been enthused about anything Mario since Mario 64. Same goes for the Sonic the Hedgehog series. I'll have to look at NSMB though; it looks pretty similar to the original. Even so, most of the platformers in the genre since have been awkward and I hate the graphics.


Nevermind Sonic the Hedgehog. That series died with the Sega Genesis. There's a chance they can revive it with Project Needlemouse.

And seeing as I don't really pay attention to the Mario sports games, I don't find the series watered down. Even if they did do a ton of spin-offs and sports games, the platformers are in a league of their own. They are old school traditional. Some of the spin-offs are great (Mario Kart, Paper Mario, Mario Golf), but while the characters are the same, the games are completely different.

Whle Mario Sunshine was great (it was good, but not great), Galaxy was fantastic. But I do and always will prefer the traditional 2D platformer over the 3D ones.
enygmasoft
eday2010 wrote:
wombatrpgs wrote:
eday2010 wrote:
In 23 years, they've only released 8 Mario games (proper platformers, not RPGs, sports games, or other spinoffs). They sure like to take their time, but at least they don't water things down by releasing crap games every of years like Sega has been doing with Sonic.


I wouldn't say that... The miscellaneous spinoffs really do water things down... I haven't been enthused about anything Mario since Mario 64. Same goes for the Sonic the Hedgehog series. I'll have to look at NSMB though; it looks pretty similar to the original. Even so, most of the platformers in the genre since have been awkward and I hate the graphics.


Nevermind Sonic the Hedgehog. That series died with the Sega Genesis. There's a chance they can revive it with Project Needlemouse.

And seeing as I don't really pay attention to the Mario sports games, I don't find the series watered down. Even if they did do a ton of spin-offs and sports games, the platformers are in a league of their own. They are old school traditional. Some of the spin-offs are great (Mario Kart, Paper Mario, Mario Golf), but while the characters are the same, the games are completely different.

Whle Mario Sunshine was great (it was good, but not great), Galaxy was fantastic. But I do and always will prefer the traditional 2D platformer over the 3D ones.


I have always been a fan of sonic in spite of my better judgement, Sadly Sonic was past his prime after pzrt 3 on the genesis.
FTommy
Sonic lost his pride with "Dark Brotherhood" and with that knight game
wombatrpgs
Ha, no, the dignity of that series was long gone by that point. I'd say it died after the voiceovers. Where silent Sonic was rather badass, the speaking Sonic is an epic tool.
enygmasoft
Yes those were some pretty good Wii fun times. Now to be honest I have been a long time fan of both zelda and metroid. Mario is alwayss good fun for all I have been having good time. Now remind me of the last great game ever made.Mario games have always benn for the most part good save for mario party. Now this being said I had always played all the mario platformers primarily because they used to come with the system sadly the gamecube was the first nintendo console to break the bond that both mario nintendo systems always came out together. Good otimes for wii adoptin with mario galaxy. Now since every nintendo system and game came tpgether it was always time well spent. The was always a soft spot for me and mario , but nintendi was always smarter than sega was with its flaturlant killing of sonic.
eday2010
enygmasoft wrote:
I have always been a fan of sonic in spite of my better judgement, Sadly Sonic was past his prime after pzrt 3 on the genesis.


Part 3? That was the best game in the series. Sonic & Knuckles was almost as good. And together, they made the ultimate Sonic game. If they could recreate that kind of game in this new 2D HD game they are making, I will be very happy, and the Sonic franchise will be redeemed.
wombatrpgs
eday2010 wrote:

Part 3? That was the best game in the series. Sonic & Knuckles was almost as good. And together, they made the ultimate Sonic game. If they could recreate that kind of game in this new 2D HD game they are making, I will be very happy, and the Sonic franchise will be redeemed.


Well, technically S&K was what S3 should've been. That's why S3&K exists.
welshsteve
I was sceptic at first, and some of the games I think are still a bit daft, but I do enjoy the golf Very Happy
LostOverThere
I recently got A Boy and His Blob which I won in a competition by N-Europe. The graphics are just marvelous, but the controls are just awful. They're really bad. I mean really horrid to the point you'll keep having to remind yourself exactly how to do things.

That being said, some of the puzzles are quite challenging and the music is beautiful. While it may not be a purchase for all, I do recommend renting it atleast just to see what all the fuss is about.
enygmasoft
[quote="LostOverThere"]I recently got A Boy and His Blob which I won in a competition by N-Europe. The graphics are just marvelous, but the controls are just awful. They're really bad. I mean really horrid to the point you'll keep having to remind yourself exactly how to do things.

That being said, some of the puzzles are quite challenging and the music is beautiful. While it may not be a purchase for all, I do recommend renting it atleast just to see what all the fuss is about.[/quot


How great is all the have all the games with bad interfaces. Sadly bionic commando is ggod exaple ofa good idea with craptabulous gaming controls. iT TOOK forever to pass any level
eday2010
I don't find the control for A Boy and His Blob to be horrible. Sure, you have to be very precise with jumps and movement, but there are only three real things to control: walking, jumping, and throwing jelly beans. The controls are a bit stiff, but I don't find it enough of an issue to make me not enjoy playing the game.
guth75
I have the Wii, I just need more games for it Very Happy It's great and if you wan't to truly be "Interactive" with the games this is definitely on of the best choices out of other gaming systems.
soljarag
I just got the Wii and I really like it...

I cant stop playing Guitar Hero.. man that game is additicting!
LostOverThere
Guitar Hero seems to be a love/hate style game. I have a few friends who can't stop playing it, while others I know absolutely detest it. Personally, I bought Guitar Hero: World Tour and have no intention to ever buy another Guitar Hero game again. Razz
wombatrpgs
Hm, that's odd about Guitar Hero. I'm not that into it myself, but I'm not sure how you could really hate it... I've run into a few people who detest it, but they uniformly hadn't played it.
amperx
anyone heard of the upcoming game for wii, its called: Fragile
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fragile_(video_game)

Im a fan of the fatal frame(ps2) series, and am looking forward for this game too Very Happy the visuals are so good aswell, even though its released in the wii, i think the visuals just fits in the game, no need to make it very realistic Very Happy
wombatrpgs
Thanks for the link... Interesting, though I'm not sure if I'll purchase it. Looks a little lacking as far as gameplay goes.
LostOverThere
It comes out February so I'll be interested in hearing from critics and other users on what it's like. I'm usually not a fan of that genre but I'm always interested in trying something new. Smile
jstei
I have a Wii and I like it. I don't play it that much though, but I will get on there when I can. It's a great gaming system Smile
wombatrpgs
Yeah, I don't really use it much either, but then again, I'd never play anything on any other console, so I guess if works out...
LostOverThere
Finished playing Resident Evil 4 on the Wii. Great game, I love the new controls too in addition to the Seperate Ways missions from the PS2 edition. Smile
eday2010
I completed New Super Mario Bros. Wii with 100% last month (what a challenge that was), and haven't really played anything on any of the homme consoles since then. I've used my DSi XL (awesome, by the way), quite a bit, but not my home consoles. I wanted to maybe complete another game or two before Mario Galaxy 2 came out, but I don't see that happening.
LostOverThere
Quote:
I completed New Super Mario Bros. Wii with 100% last month (what a challenge that was), and haven't really played anything on any of the homme consoles since then. I've used my DSi XL (awesome, by the way), quite a bit, but not my home consoles. I wanted to maybe complete another game or two before Mario Galaxy 2 came out, but I don't see that happening.

If you're interested and don't have much time, I must recommend Red Steel 2. Whilst its a little repetative at times, the brilliant execution of motion controls makes it feel quite fresh. Not only that, but it will also only take you about 10 hours to race through. Smile
eday2010
I am not really keen on first person games. I might give it a rental one day though, just to check it out. It may surprise me Smile
wombatrpgs
I don't find the perspective that big an issue; the issue is that FP is often followed by an S. Unfortunately the genre is flooded...
LostOverThere
Quote:

I don't find the perspective that big an issue; the issue is that FP is often followed by an S. Unfortunately the genre is flooded...

This. Its become a case where the genre has matured so much that the game mechanics have become standardised where innovation is discouraged. Honestly, if COD7 doesn't come to the Wii I won't really be all that disappointed.
camperkid
2010 is an exciting time to have a wii! just how exciting we shall see in a couple of weeks when e3 comes along Very Happy still there's already allot of great titles coming up!
LostOverThere
Yay! Nintendo's E3 conference tomorrow. Should be good!

Although Australia is still wanting to get Super Mario Galaxy 2, so I'm still pumped for that. Razz
eday2010
Their conference was terrific. Kirby's Epic Yarn, Donkey Kong Country Returns, Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword...and the 3DS with all those games. I was ecstatic with their conference.
LostOverThere
Actually, the fact that GoldenEye was announced was solely enough to blow my socks off. The fact it exists, with all the licensing issues, is a miracle.
QrafTee
eday2010 wrote:
Their conference was terrific. Kirby's Epic Yarn, Donkey Kong Country Returns, Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword...and the 3DS with all those games. I was ecstatic with their conference.
Kirby's Epic Yarn, Donkey Kong Country Returns, and the 3DS was interesting. I was excited for the new Legend of Zelda game, but then I saw it... it seems like they're using the Twilight Princess art direction, but executed with Wind Waker's style... ish.
wombatrpgs
I wasn't a huge fan of the appearance, but I don't follow Zelda too closely anymore...
eday2010
QrafTee wrote:
Kirby's Epic Yarn, Donkey Kong Country Returns, and the 3DS was interesting. I was excited for the new Legend of Zelda game, but then I saw it... it seems like they're using the Twilight Princess art direction, but executed with Wind Waker's style... ish.


I actually liked how they did it. The colourful graphics are more suited for the games. Everything always seems to be dark and dreary when it comes to RPG-type games that aren't on the DS. This was a nice change. They could have gone a bit more cartoony on the art style, but how they did it was fine.
rocket-dan
Personally I'm looking forward to the Goldeneye remake and Metroid: Other M.
LostOverThere
Quote:

Personally I'm looking forward to the Goldeneye remake and Metroid: Other M.

Just over a week until Metroid: Other M is released! Woo!
rayxzero
It will be great if they were putting some pokemon titles just like on nintendo handheld games with much better graphics. Very Happy
wombatrpgs
You know, I think Pokemon had a lot more charm without the graphics...
QrafTee
rayxzero wrote:
It will be great if they were putting some pokemon titles just like on nintendo handheld games with much better graphics. Very Happy
Unfortunately they always put a different team aside from the main team when they work on console Pokemon titles which is why the console Pokemon RPGs are lacking... a lot.
ato784
eLto wrote:
10 reasons why the PS3 beats all you nintendo fanboys:

1 Nvidia RSX GPU.
2 Cell CPU with 8 dual-cores
3 Bluetooth
4 Blu-Ray (54 GB storage space)
5 Hard drive
6 wireless controllers with motion sensibilty, ergonomically shaped
7 Memory slots for various types of media
8 Support for 7 controllers
9 Plays all sorts of media (mp3, wav, avi, mpg etc.)
10 It looks tons cooler

I know you people like nintendo, and don't get me wrong, so did I, until the N64 came out, still using cartridges. Zelda was GREAT, Goldeneye was GREAT, perfect dark was GREAT, and hell, even diddy kong racing was fun, but nintendo seems to always aim for children and new playing styles, whereas sony (and microsuck) aim for the mainstream masses of multimedia, and therefore get way better performing consoles.


Anyway, that's my opinion, and your opinions are yours. Nothing I can do about it.


I agree with you, anything is better than Wii

any of the past nintendo consoles are better, and have better games.
LostOverThere
ato784 wrote:
I agree with you, anything is better than Wii

any of the past nintendo consoles are better, and have better games.

Yeah, Wii games are pretty crap.
wombatrpgs
LostOverThere wrote:
ato784 wrote:
I agree with you, anything is better than Wii

any of the past nintendo consoles are better, and have better games.

Yeah, Wii games are pretty crap.

That's actually pretty surprising that Super Mario Galaxy is up there... Maybe I'll have to look into getting it.
LostOverThere
wombatrpgs wrote:
LostOverThere wrote:
ato784 wrote:
I agree with you, anything is better than Wii

any of the past nintendo consoles are better, and have better games.

Yeah, Wii games are pretty crap.

That's actually pretty surprising that Super Mario Galaxy is up there... Maybe I'll have to look into getting it.

You haven't tried it? Have you tried Super Mario Galaxy 2? I much prefer the sequel (I feel the platforming feels more solid and "traditional"), but many like the first Galaxy more.
frillaH
I don't understand how one can judge a console based on gamerankings.

It's all depending on what the purpose of getting a console is.

I do not have any of those right now, but is getting one after christmas
when the lower prices (yes, I know, I am cheap).

I'll buy a WII 'cause I want my children to have use of it (5 and 7 y.o.). For
them WII is outstanding, and maybe there will be some games for me. The
only downside is that there is no HDMI, but still, picture is OK.

/frillaH
eday2010
ato784 wrote:
I agree with you, anything is better than Wii

any of the past nintendo consoles are better, and have better games.


Why are you quoting that eLto idiot? Out of the ten things he listed, NONE of them makes games any more fun. And at least two of them aren't even valid (the Wii has bluetooth as well, as well as wireless controllers with motion capabilities). The guy is a Grade A dummy trying to justify the ridiculous amount of money he spent on an over priced toy. The games on the PS3 are no more fun than games on the Wii because of any of the stupid things he listed (it looks tons cooler? Give me a god damn break).

And relying on aggregated scores for games is just plain dumb. It tells you nothing about a game except that the people who reviewed it who like that genre really liked it. It doesn't mean anything apart from that. The best way to find out how good a game is apart from playing it, is to READ reviews, not relying on some stupid website that lumps a bunch of scores together.
rayxzero
Is someone here played the game Little King. If there is it good or bad?
LostOverThere
rayxzero wrote:
Is someone here played the game Little King. If there is it good or bad?

While I haven't played it, the game pretty much has a massive cult following. Supposedly it's absolutely brilliant, which is in part because of the dichotomy between the sweet art style and the witty dialogue and situational gameplay.
engammalsko
LostOverThere wrote:
wombatrpgs wrote:
LostOverThere wrote:
ato784 wrote:
I agree with you, anything is better than Wii

any of the past nintendo consoles are better, and have better games.

Yeah, Wii games are pretty crap.

That's actually pretty surprising that Super Mario Galaxy is up there... Maybe I'll have to look into getting it.
{b][/b]
You haven't tried it? Have you tried Super Mario Galaxy 2? I much prefer the sequel (I feel the platforming feels more solid and "traditional"), but many like the first Galaxy more.


So, which console has so much better games then?
Well, N64 and SNES had many good imo. Genesis too.
But I think there's alot good game too the wii. Like 30 or something.

My favourite would be Zelda tp, Okami, Resident Evil 4, No more Heroes 1 and 2. And many more. Super Mario Galaxy is pretty good too. And I also think that Super Mario Galaxy 2 is better then the first one. But I didn't enjoyed to get all the green stars that much.
And there is some good party games like super smash bros brawl and mario kart.

But must say I like N64 more then Wii. Especially the Rare games.
GoldenEagle
I heard there's a new Wii coming out this year. Does anyone know if this is true or if it's just a rumor?
futurcat
I am waiting for the next Nintendo console substituting Wii
Everlight
I got a Wii, like 2 weeks ago. P.S. I have 2 Games but that's all I have for now.

Super Mario Brothers and the Resort Game
LostOverThere
futurcat wrote:
I am waiting for the next Nintendo console substituting Wii

The Wii U? Yeah, give it a year. Smile
wombatrpgs
LostOverThere wrote:
futurcat wrote:
I am waiting for the next Nintendo console substituting Wii

The Wii U? Yeah, give it a year. Smile

Sounds more like an upgrade than a substitute...!
pazis
My cousin has a Wii. To be honest, I will never buy one! I'm just so lazy, I don't want to move!
wombatrpgs
pazis wrote:
My cousin has a Wii. To be honest, I will never buy one! I'm just so lazy, I don't want to move!

There are plenty of games that don't require movement, or even the use of the WiiMote.
Iceaxe0410
I have a wii! Of course...umm I haven't played it in a couple years. I bought games for it like Skyward Sword, but I just haven't gotten around to starting it yet. I've been focused mostly on Skyrim, Fallout New Vegas, Castlevania HD, and some other games for the xbox and ps3 combined.

I really love how they have all those old school games that you can download. Brings back memories to my old nes/snes days. Thing is I already have many of those games should I decide to just whip out my old nes and snes to play it, so I don't really have much of a need to buy them again except for convenience. It does however give me an opportunity to purchase games I've always wanted back then, but didn't have the money to. There were a lot of games like that back then. I'd usually have to go to LA Tronics and pick out whatever games looked the best from the cover box, lol. Didn't have the Internet or game magazines to look at for any guidance.
ZeytinGrafik
Its wii or the pc for me. I also own various consoles. While the ps3's gaming experience is similar to pc's, i can not see a reason to buy one. Wii was original when it was first out. The games are mostly funnier if you are in to platforming or party games. I really enjoy playing fortune street with my friends over (nearly) anything. Wii also runs some of my favourite previous-gen console games like Gamecube star fox, Zelda and Mario. The graphics may be bad but nintendo sure knows how to make a fun game. Other then that i always own a new pc to play the newest games around.
grofet
I have banner brick on my modified wii, so i can't play wii anymore. I don't know how to fix it. I know that there are many guide on the internet but it's still banner brick.
wombatrpgs
grofet wrote:
I have banner brick on my modified wii, so i can't play wii anymore. I don't know how to fix it. I know that there are many guide on the internet but it's still banner brick.

That seems like a shame, there are still some good Wii games nowadays.
LostOverThere
Hmm, slightly off topic, but I'm thinking we really need an Official Wii U stickied thread. How do we go about making one?
Insanity
I haven't played with the Wii U much, and in fact I don't think that it's been advertised as much as the other consoles. It seems strange that the Wii is so popular, but not anyone I know owns a Wii U and most people I know don't seem to be able to differentiate between the Wii adn the Wii U.
RosenCruz
I want to buy a Wii that plays all games from a SD Card. A modded one. Wonder am I too late for the train? Just wanna have some fun Rolling Eyes
william
I think the only Wii that's still sold in stores is the Wii Mini, which can't be modded simply because it doesn't have an SD card slot. You can find some leftover older ones online if you want a new one, but if you stick to used, they're actually really cheap. And pretty much all of them can be modded, if I recall correctly (including the Family Edition which ditched the GameCube ports, although I'd still suggest an earlier model so you can hook up GameCube controllers). But yeah, definitely not late to the party, especially since it's so cheap to do now.
RosenCruz
william wrote:
I think the only Wii that's still sold in stores is the Wii Mini, which can't be modded simply because it doesn't have an SD card slot. You can find some leftover older ones online if you want a new one, but if you stick to used, they're actually really cheap. And pretty much all of them can be modded, if I recall correctly (including the Family Edition which ditched the GameCube ports, although I'd still suggest an earlier model so you can hook up GameCube controllers). But yeah, definitely not late to the party, especially since it's so cheap to do now.


Yeah I might look for an old one or, since Wii was never popular around here in Turkey, there are a lot fresh unused ones around stores for dirt cheap.

I am planning to grab a pre modded one enjoy all those stuff for cheap whenever I have time Cool


Thanks for the answer Wink
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