I'm an Atheist ( i do not believe in any god ) but i'm intrested in the story of Lucifer that was sent to HELL by god...
I hate it when people call me a satanist, for i'm not...
If i am something like that, I would be a luciferian.
someone who sees LUCIFER as the bringer of our wisdom (latin = Lux,Lucis =Light, Ferre,Fero,Tuli,Latum : to bring ) he brought us light, he enlighted us...
But when he did so god was angry with him, because god lost his loyal servants, who where now people who could think for themselves and believe in different things, perhaps doubt the WILL of god...
That's why Lucifer became Satan, from Bringer Of Light to Enemy ( CHAITAN = Hebrew for Enemy )
My intrest in subjects like this, makes people wonder, wich is odd, because The Luciferian Society has never started any war... They NEVER killed people just because they tought they believed in something wrong... There was a time when you couldn't be kept alive when someone THOUGHT you believed in satan...
The Catholics have had their Crussades where they killed alot of people all in the name of their god.
The Islam have had their JIHAD ( not sure bout spelling :p ) another HOLY war, killing in the name of god... so i kinda don't understand why satanics are considdered odd...
its just that when they hear satanisme, people think about satanic rituals, where they sacrifice a few goats and idk or drink blood of some kind of animal... the stories that everyone know, are just to absurd to be true, even tough some satanics DO worship satan the ways i just mentioned above, but most of them probably don't know the story of how lucifer became satan...
lol if i had lived 500 years ago, i would've been hanged or killed by some brutal way
If you did read all of this, then THANKS for reading lol
- kev -
Well for a start, you're not a satanist. Interest in the story isn't the same as believing it, and your very first line was stating that you don't believe in any god.
With that in mind, your post is downright confusing. You seem to be saying that people of your set of beliefs (which is apparently non-religious, with an interest in religious stories) haven't started any wars.
Well... they have. But not in the name of their religion. But the same could be said of any group of atheists.
What's your point?
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your post is downright confusing. You seem to be saying that people of your set of beliefs (which is apparently non-religious, with an interest in religious stories) haven't started any wars.
Well... they have. But not in the name of their religion. But the same could be said of any group of atheists.
What's your point? |
You're making it worse. You can't have a religious war without religion. 
That was just poor wording - I meant that atheists don't start wars for religious reasons, by the very definition of 'atheist'.
yes, but then again allmost all wars have had something to do with religion...
atheist and luciferian isn't the same btw, cuz i said "The Luciferian Society has never started any war... They NEVER killed people just because they tought they believed in something wrong..."
I didn't say the Atheists, but the both are simular, as Atheist don't bow to any god, believe in our own strenght without having to look at the sky when we got a problem and atheists can believer whatever we want to.
Some people still believe they follow their god's will when they take their own lives in an act of terrorisme...
my question.. is for people who critiziing using the supreme soul... like said above... "Some people still believe they follow their god's will when they take their own lives in an act of terrorisme..." Who here can tell what God wills.. and what is his thoughts.. anybody who says that.. is telling God what to do.. and over ruling God on how he should think and decide.. and I don't think he personally is gonna like it... so be carefull.. lol @ swapnalokam.
who knows :p maybe god likes the spare time, if people can give him the answer to a question they ask :p <= maybe god = LAZY 
but if there really is a god, then why doesn't he take care of the problems in the world... We can know the will of God for He has revealed it to us. Now don't misquote or understand where I'm going... we don't have ALL of His knowledge or answers, but clearly...
Jesus answered them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent." John 6:29 ESV
"but these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name." John 20:31
So to answer Swap... I can tell you that it IS the will of God that you would believe on the Lord Jesus and have eternal life.
What car should you buy or what girl to date etc.??? Those aren't so easy to figure out!
A few years back a gaming company called White Wolf created a role playing game called Demon: the Fallen.
It's premise is that God created man and told his angels "Love him as you love me, but he may never know you exist." For years God rests (the preverbial "7th day") and is not heared from. In God's absence the angels observe and protect man, and they are pained by man's child like inocence. They are pained that the creatures they love so much who have endless posibilities cannot even fathom ideas like math, music, or even love. So in God's absence the most high of the angels, Lucifer, God's beloved Morning Star, gathers the angels and devises a plan to bring their most loved creature, man, out of ignorance because of their love for man.
So we see a different take on the old story, where Lucifer brings knowledge to man not out of spite but out of love.
The only reason Lucifer has such a name is because he was named before his rebellion against God - the name wasn't created afterwards as some grand revelation or anything to get people to follow him, it's just his name.
| Soulfire wrote: |
| The only reason Lucifer has such a name is because he was named before his rebellion against God - the name wasn't created afterwards as some grand revelation or anything to get people to follow him, it's just his name. |
How do you know that? The name Lucifer is not directly stated in the Bible, he's only called "the Morning Star" [as far as I remember it was in Isaiah 14:12]. By the way, the word 'lucifer' until about 5th century was in the Christian culture a very positive circumscription, sometimes even Jesus was called with this as the one who brought light to the earth [see: John, chapter 1]. There is even a Saint Lucifer who was a bishop living in the 4th century [see more about him on Wikipedia]. I guess if the Satan had been called 'Lucifer' earlier, it would be rather impossible
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I'm an Atheist ( i do not believe in any god ) but i'm intrested in the story of Lucifer that was sent to HELL by god...
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But when he did so god was angry with him, because god lost his loyal servants, who where now people who could think for themselves and believe in different things, perhaps doubt the WILL of god... |
... and people say that Christians are illogical 
Explain me how can you believe that there is no god and at the same time believe that a fallen angel exists? I'm really interested... | LordHateSphere wrote: |
lol @ swapnalokam.
who knows :p maybe god likes the spare time, if people can give him the answer to a question they ask :p <= maybe god = LAZY
but if there really is a god, then why doesn't he take care of the problems in the world... |
If god is to take care of all of our problems then what are we going to do! Nobody really knows why we are here, to worship him? maybe? to prepare ourselves for a greater future? maybe? It could be anything! God is our caretaker and not our problem taker, he'll show you the path, he'll guide you with signs though provided you have faith in him.And believers and non believers alike keep mentioning words like " Hope, luck, bad timing, ...just the right time, ...being at the right time at the right place, ... oh that wasnt supposed to happen so it didnt, ...it wasnt just my day etc " what all these words reflect! Destiny!! Who wrote it? it was God, my dear friends! Trust in him/her, and you'll never fall. Make yourself able enough that he helps you and trust me everything you do in your lives comes back, if you think that at some point you desreved more then you have got then dont be upset or angry with him/her, its gonna come in a better way. Another option I can suggest to non-believers, if you find it tough to worship an idol or symbol, then he/she has left more options for you, words like hope and fear are his avtars only! If you ask why fear, then there is nothing in this world that runs without fear, not even relations! Two people standing in an arena, both have fears, its the way they channel it, one fears that will I be able to win it, other fears will I be able to defeat him? the one who channels his energies into thinking how to win this war/competition will always win, if not for public, but atleast for himself.
You can't not believe in god but believe in lucifer. it either shows you havent thought this out clearly or you are just stupid. i'd like to think the first one.
Ok guys... don't jump on him.. now two of you did... he didn't said he belive.. all he said was he is interested... that's all... I am really interested in the story of jesus.. does that mean that I belive him.. It just means.. that I am interested thats all...
@deuc.. Nobody have answered me yet.. other than quoting some from your bible.. you didn't answered it either.. I mean come on.. even if you could find the right quote from bible.. doesn't he even have the freedom to change his mind.. I don't belive his hands are tied cause.. of what you guys wrote in bible...
NO DISRESPECT THOUGH>>>
