The state I live in offers special "environmental" license plates for vehicles for an additional amount money. The additional money goes to that fund.
Earlier this year, I was driving along behing a Hummer when I noticed it's license plate was an "environmental" plate. I wish I had had a camera. How can this person live with themselves? Protect the envirnment - drive a Hummer. Good grief.
Maybe he likes to offroad... in the environment. So he paid money to save it. I dunno. 
That reminds me of the time some guy near where I live bought an H2, and apparently he was really proud of himself because everyday I'd see it outside the shopping center in the front row parking spot parked diagonally in two spaces so everybody could see it (don't see why, H1s and H3s are the only nice ones in my opinion...). Then one day, some guy pulls up in the junkiest, ugliest Volkswagen Microbus you've ever seen, and parks it right alongside, diagonally, blocking everybody's view of the Hummer. I thought that was hilarious. Ever since then, the guy's been parking it normally. Have you thought that he/she might want to make up for the extra pollution, so they donated a little cash for the environment?
Besides, not everybody wants to drive a micro-car just because it's more efficent. We live for more than efficiency.
My boss has one and he says he gets only 7-9 miles to the gallon. That is ridiculous. It shouldnt have been allowed on the roads with that. GM padded the EPA's pocket? maybe but they are too big. You cannot park inside the garage b/c of height. Some lanes on the roads here are narrow. 2 car at the same time (1 being a H2) I dont think so.
| cx8219 wrote: |
| My boss has one and he says he gets only 7-9 miles to the gallon. That is ridiculous. It shouldnt have been allowed on the roads with that. |
Shouldn't be allowed on the roads? Because of large size and bad gas milage?
Well so much for-
-RV's
-Tractor Trailers
-Tractors (where I come from, driving a farm tractor on the highway is legal)
-Large pickup trucks
-Garbage trucks
-Military convoys
-Industrial trucks (fruit trucks, cement trucks, et cetera)
-Full-size vans
(all of these are very large and get very poor gas milage)
That's great! Once we get rid of those, we can have small roads and buy less gas! Yay! *sarcasm*
The problem is, a pristine environment does not benifit us much if we cripple our economy in order to achieve it.That will help then because people will drive less due to having a humor that gets 7-8 miles a gallon. You never know what that guy does. Maybe he has that as a car that he drives only a little on like days with bad weather and has a car that gets 37 miles to the gallon that he drives on usual days.
| ocalhoun wrote: |
| cx8219 wrote: | | My boss has one and he says he gets only 7-9 miles to the gallon. That is ridiculous. It shouldnt have been allowed on the roads with that. |
Shouldn't be allowed on the roads? Because of large size and bad gas milage?
Well so much for-
-RV's
-Tractor Trailers
-Tractors (where I come from, driving a farm tractor on the highway is legal)
-Large pickup trucks
-Garbage trucks
-Military convoys
-Industrial trucks (fruit trucks, cement trucks, et cetera)
-Full-size vans
(all of these are very large and get very poor gas milage)
That's great! Once we get rid of those, we can have small roads and buy less gas! Yay! *sarcasm*
The problem is, a pristine environment does not benifit us much if we cripple our economy in order to achieve it. |
....You do realize that all the examples you mentioned serve a very practical purpose, don't you? The hummer does not. It even sucks for off-roading! | brevity wrote: |
....You do realize that all the examples you mentioned serve a very practical purpose, don't you? The hummer does not. It even sucks for off-roading! |
Yes, I realize this, but people have a right to drive what they want to.
I do agree that hummers (H2, and perhaps H3, but not the original military-style) suck in all respects.I'm not saying people shouldn't be allowed to drive how they want... Well, actually I do think that Hummers should be illegal because they are dangerous. Or, well, the drivers should at least be made to pass more strenuous testing for their "hummer license"
Shit, if somebody wants to drive a dumptruck for recreation and has the ability to do so, more power to them. It doesn't change the fact that it's still a very poor decision for the environment and other motorists. The point that I was making, however, is that the vehicles you pointed out are on the road for a functional purpose. What purpose does a hummer have that, say, a Jeep Cheroke or a VW beetle wouldn't have?
Do Jeep drivers have...
cargo room? check
passenger room? check
10x the gas mileage? check
less weight, therefore better braking? check
security in the size of their genetelia? double check.
| cx8219 wrote: |
| GM padded the EPA's pocket? |
People who buy big trucks like Hummers have to pay a 'gas guzzler' tax at the time of purchase.
But listen, if people think a Hummer looks good, and they can afford to own and maintain it, why should anybody else care? How about that ship, the Queen Mary II I think it was. It gets gallons to the mile. It serves even less of a pupose than a Hummer, and uses more gas than hundreds of them. I haven't heard anybody complaining. Actually, most boats get worse gas mileage than Hummers, and a lot are used just for riding around. | brevity wrote: |
..... What purpose does a hummer have that, say, a Jeep Cheroke or a VW beetle wouldn't have?
... |
But they dont make the Cherokee anymore, those SOBs!
Do you hate the guys driving full sized vans, also? Guys driving their Silverado dualies? Hell, Lamborghinis? Some models get 9 mpg. Like someone earlier said, he may only drive it when he goes camping or some other rare event. You don't know the whole story until you talk to him. | standready wrote: |
The state I live in offers special "environmental" license plates for vehicles for an additional amount money. The additional money goes to that fund.
Earlier this year, I was driving along behing a Hummer when I noticed it's license plate was an "environmental" plate. I wish I had had a camera. How can this person live with themselves? Protect the envirnment - drive a Hummer. Good grief. |
That's a massive waste... hummers suck at everything except looking good.what the hell are environmental plates?!
^ In some states, you can pay extra when renewing your registration to get a little 'environmental' license plate. The extra money goes to help the environment through government programs (supposedly).
| suntzu3500 wrote: |
That's a massive waste... hummers suck at everything except looking good. |
In my opinion they suck at that too. It would appear, in some cases (i.e. the SUVs, etc.), the emphasis should be on the MENTAL part.
| HoboPelican wrote: |
| brevity wrote: | ..... What purpose does a hummer have that, say, a Jeep Cheroke or a VW beetle wouldn't have?
... |
But they dont make the Cherokee anymore, those SOBs!
Do you hate the guys driving full sized vans, also? Guys driving their Silverado dualies? Hell, Lamborghinis? Some models get 9 mpg. Like someone earlier said, he may only drive it when he goes camping or some other rare event. You don't know the whole story until you talk to him. |
Alright... well, the point was missed again. The functional point of a full sized van is cargo space. The functional point of a dualy is the towing capacity. The functional part of a Lamborghini is speed (however "functional" that is).
Again, what is it about a hummer that nothing else could do? | brevity wrote: |
Again, what is it about a hummer that nothing else could do? |
Proclaim to the world:
'I make more money from one drug deal than you've made your entire life.'
(sometimes switch 'drug' for 'business'.) | brevity wrote: |
Alright... well, the point was missed again. The functional point of a full sized van is cargo space. The functional point of a dualy is the towing capacity. The functional part of a Lamborghini is speed (however "functional" that is).
Again, what is it about a hummer that nothing else could do? |
Well, the full sized vans I was thinking of were the decked out passenger vans which carry no more people than a station wagon or SUV. The exotic cars stated purpose of speed, at least in the US, is pointless since the legal limit is so freakin' low. But purpose of a Hummer? Same as any SUV. Is it better? No, but does that mean that they shouldn't sell it? Should only one of each vehicle type exist?
Yeah, driving a Hummer around town is a bit silly, but not much different than all those examples I gave.maybe..... I mean, it is a society where anybody can do whatever they want with their money. Nothing screams "I have a small penis" like a man with a shaved head and wraparound oakleys in a hummer.
Blech.
| Blaster wrote: |
| That will help then because people will drive less due to having a humor that gets 7-8 miles a gallon. You never know what that guy does. Maybe he has that as a car that he drives only a little on like days with bad weather and has a car that gets 37 miles to the gallon that he drives on usual days. |
haha, that's me. my truck gets about 20 MPG and i find that terrible and ty my hardest to drive as little as possible.I have no problem with people driving Hummers. Sure most people don't understand the point, but personally, I believe that to each his/her own. Just because some people wish to purchase a vehicle they like doesn't mean that the rest of the people in the world have to bash their personal opinion.
I have always been a person who believes in expressing oneself. To some people, a vehicle is a "fashion statement" or a personality statement. I know I went through a phase myself where I felt that my car was a statement of my status in life. A lot of people still feel that way. Personally, I don't care about gas mileage, I choose my vehicles based upon personal look preferences, drivability, and comfort.
| tomahawk19 wrote: |
| Personally, I don't care about gas mileage, I choose my vehicles based upon personal look preferences, drivability, and comfort. |
yeh, u can say that when you live in the US!
Some of us are further afeild and with petrol prices here in the UK, fuel economy is a big factor for most people!It has nothing to do with where I live. It has everything to do with being able to deal with the consequences of my tastes. I just have to find a different way to budget myself. I wish that gas prices were better, or that my car got better gas mileage, but it's something I deal with, because my car serves a purpose.
EDIT: I can say that our prices our better than yours, however like I was saying earlier, it's a matter of willingness to budget.
LOL
I have a 1994 Yukon and they almost did not give me an environmental plate LOL... but I did get one... so I use that plate on the truck and I have a 2003 Accord that gets 700km per tank... prob 2-3x what the truck gets... and I have a normal plate on there LOL
I may drop my environmental plate though... I do not see the funds going to the right places.
really the cars arent what did in the ozone layer though it's the massively polluting factories..
| suntzu3500 wrote: |
| standready wrote: | The state I live in offers special "environmental" license plates for vehicles for an additional amount money. The additional money goes to that fund.
Earlier this year, I was driving along behing a Hummer when I noticed it's license plate was an "environmental" plate. I wish I had had a camera. How can this person live with themselves? Protect the envirnment - drive a Hummer. Good grief. |
That's a massive waste... hummers suck at everything except looking good. |
I think a Hummer looks crap any which way you look at it.i personally hate H2's....im a truck guy chevrolet all the way..newer chevys are running on ethenol straight and they get grt milage..anyone seen the 2007 chevy silverados...they are so nice
Maybe the owner of the hummer saw the irony in getting that particular plate and decided to spend the extra money so he could have a quiet laugh about it?
| hlavco wrote: |
Maybe he likes to offroad... in the environment. So he paid money to save it. I dunno.
That reminds me of the time some guy near where I live bought an H2, and apparently he was really proud of himself because everyday I'd see it outside the shopping center in the front row parking spot parked diagonally in two spaces so everybody could see it (don't see why, H1s and H3s are the only nice ones in my opinion...). Then one day, some guy pulls up in the junkiest, ugliest Volkswagen Microbus you've ever seen, and parks it right alongside, diagonally, blocking everybody's view of the Hummer. I thought that was hilarious. Ever since then, the guy's been parking it normally. |
OMG TFFIn Germnay hardly anybody can afford those huge trucks and cars because gas is over 4 dollars a gallon.. and in the US people complain when it is more than 1 dollar...
