The nation is now under martial law. Tanks and troops have hit the streets of Bangkok. I've read that the coup leaders have met with the King about declaring the coup. Does that mean the King has approved of this coup?
Thailand under military coup
I was really surprised after heard the news over TV. The army take control over the capital and suspend the constitution. Alao they got the positive support from the opposition parties. But, surprisingly, the king also seems that he accept the millitary. I don't know what is the situtaion of thiland that makes the army to take the power, as it's not good as people will loose their rights to choose their ruler.
Does anybody from thiland tell us about it ? Is general people support this action ?
Does anybody from thiland tell us about it ? Is general people support this action ?
Royalists will support the idea of a king in power I think ...
Why was there a coup? I was under the impression that Thailand was relatively stable.
Very quick history, quite concise and easy to read..
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http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/world/A0861512.html
Regards
Chris
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http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/world/A0861512.html
Regards
Chris
I heard the king isn't really a king at all, as far as power/control of the country. I also heard that a Muslim is now in power. (That military leader). I haven't confirmed it either way, but I trust the person I heard it from.
| S3nd K3ys wrote: |
| I heard the king isn't really a king at all, as far as power/control of the country. I also heard that a Muslim is now in power. (That military leader). I haven't confirmed it either way, but I trust the person I heard it from. |
The system was setup on the British model post 1978 and the writing of the constitution. In that sense, yes, the King is largely a figurehead rather than an active 'ruler' of the country. The boss is, day to day, the Prime Minister. The PM (Thaksin Shinawatra) was a favourite of the west because he has done as he was told and kept the place relatively stable for foreign investment. His only faults (according to the US state dept) were talking a bit too much with the Chinese and other members of the NAM (Non Aligned Movement).
His problems are deep-seated. Not least, I suspect he is corrupt (and the suspicion is shared widely in the country). He recently sold his share in a state business for about 2 million dollars which did not please the voters. As the pressure built he effectively dissolved parliament and went for a snap election last April.. The opposition parties boycotted the election. In May the high court declared the election to have been organised 'not in accord with the constitution'. This effectively nulled the result and a new election is scheduled for October.
Rather like here, the monarch is popular and widely respected but the government is unpopular and widely distrusted.
Oh yes, as for the Muslims :
The country is divided - the southernmost provinces, where the vast majority of the country's Muslims (about 4% of population), predominantly Malay in origin, are found. The rest of the country is largely Bhuddist (over 90%). The Muslims were in a state of semi-rebellion because they want independance for the southern provinces. The leader of the army (Sonthi) is a Muslim so, yes, in that sense there is a muslim in charge. He is not, however, a fundamentalist of any sort and is known to be quite pally with the King. I doubt there will be any attempt at an Islamic revolution - the causes are more complex and have to do with internal corruption, pressure from Islamic neighbouts, Pressure from the west to keep borders open and trade flowing, and the badly judged actions of the PM in the whole election fiasco.
Regards
Chris
My first reaction to reading the daily paper: 
stunned
I never knew that such a thing was even close to happening. I wouldn't be as shocked if this was Iran - US war... I would panic instead.
stunned
I never knew that such a thing was even close to happening. I wouldn't be as shocked if this was Iran - US war... I would panic instead.
They are also banning the freedom of speech by the media, yup martial law indeed. They said that it will last for about a year before they will return democracy through voting a new leader. The ejected prime minister is now in UK, he had accepted the decision but is still planning on future reconcilation.
The King is in fact quite a powerful figure in Thailand.
That is why the military use him to justify the coup. They do not dare rise up against the King or they would loose public support.
The prime minister is a billionaire businessman with corruption charges pending agaianst him. I am not saying he is guilty, but he has resisted moves for change and therefore some people feel that stronger action is required.
It amazes me what rubbish people talk with no knowledge at all of what they are talking about.
That is why the military use him to justify the coup. They do not dare rise up against the King or they would loose public support.
The prime minister is a billionaire businessman with corruption charges pending agaianst him. I am not saying he is guilty, but he has resisted moves for change and therefore some people feel that stronger action is required.
It amazes me what rubbish people talk with no knowledge at all of what they are talking about.
I saw in newspaper that mr. thaksin is now accepted this coup and preparing to going for rest !!!! .
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/5367394.stm
Quite interesting that the king also giving back-up to this millitary govt
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/5369760.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/5367394.stm
Quite interesting that the king also giving back-up to this millitary govt
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/5369760.stm
| paul_indo wrote: |
| The King is in fact quite a powerful figure in Thailand.
That is why the military use him to justify the coup. They do not dare rise up against the King or they would loose public support. The prime minister is a billionaire businessman with corruption charges pending agaianst him. I am not saying he is guilty, but he has resisted moves for change and therefore some people feel that stronger action is required. It amazes me what rubbish people talk with no knowledge at all of what they are talking about. |
Does the king run the country?
If not, it amazes me how much rubbish people with no knowledge at all about the meaning of words they are talking about.
If he does run the country, it amazes me how much rubbish people with no knowledge at all about the meaning of words they are talking about...
| S3nd K3ys wrote: |
| I heard the king isn't really a king at all, as far as power/control of the country.
... I haven't confirmed it either way, but I trust the person I heard it from. |
Hi dudes, I'm Thai and living in Thailand.
The situation is like this....
The ex-PM (Tuksin) was a greatest corruption leader which we've ever had. He had done many good projects in the past, but all those projects always has some profit return to him in someway or somehow.
Tuksin is a billionnaire by the way he ran Thai government. If you follow the news about his properties you would understand.
Most of us hate him. Unfortunatly he still won last election by cheating.
The coup has to be done or else it will be bloody war between ones who support Tuksin and those who hate him as you can see on TV. They was going to protest not to have Tuksin get back in our country again....ever.
Before the day that "Pantamit" the name of the group against Tuksin start the protest for their last round not to let Tuksin get back in our country.
Then the coup start. To stop citizen fighting with citizen.
Yes, the king is behind this. Not because he run the country, but because every single Thais listen to him. Also the army with no exception. In this country we worship our king and no one is allow to touch him. Not by laws
,but by our fists.
The coup will be over next week after having a temporary PM and in next month new election campaign will start.
This coup has to be done for a real democracy. Tuksin had put his men in positions that controlled this country like this country doesn't run as democracy, such as he kicked out some high rank soldiers and put his men instead.....etc...
We couldn't run the house against his corruption because most of the senators were on his side.
This coup is the only way out for our country. For a real democracy in the future without Tuksin.
If you see the news on TV, you'll see that people love this coup and happy with the soldiers.
The situation is like this....
The ex-PM (Tuksin) was a greatest corruption leader which we've ever had. He had done many good projects in the past, but all those projects always has some profit return to him in someway or somehow.
Tuksin is a billionnaire by the way he ran Thai government. If you follow the news about his properties you would understand.
Most of us hate him. Unfortunatly he still won last election by cheating.
The coup has to be done or else it will be bloody war between ones who support Tuksin and those who hate him as you can see on TV. They was going to protest not to have Tuksin get back in our country again....ever.
Before the day that "Pantamit" the name of the group against Tuksin start the protest for their last round not to let Tuksin get back in our country.
Then the coup start. To stop citizen fighting with citizen.
Yes, the king is behind this. Not because he run the country, but because every single Thais listen to him. Also the army with no exception. In this country we worship our king and no one is allow to touch him. Not by laws
,but by our fists.
The coup will be over next week after having a temporary PM and in next month new election campaign will start.
This coup has to be done for a real democracy. Tuksin had put his men in positions that controlled this country like this country doesn't run as democracy, such as he kicked out some high rank soldiers and put his men instead.....etc...
We couldn't run the house against his corruption because most of the senators were on his side.
This coup is the only way out for our country. For a real democracy in the future without Tuksin.
If you see the news on TV, you'll see that people love this coup and happy with the soldiers.
Hello nappa,
I have a Thai friend. He says Thaksin has done a lot of good to the economy, and has done a lot of good for the people outside Bangkok. Most people that hate him are the rich folks because Thaksin's policy prevents the rich from getting richer and the poor from getting poorer. He is a very good businessman. Good businessmen are good at making money, you voted him into office, and so I would think it would be natural to expect him to take full advantage of his position and do what he does best... make money. Do you really think that a military coup is good for the entire country? or just a few people?
I have a Thai friend. He says Thaksin has done a lot of good to the economy, and has done a lot of good for the people outside Bangkok. Most people that hate him are the rich folks because Thaksin's policy prevents the rich from getting richer and the poor from getting poorer. He is a very good businessman. Good businessmen are good at making money, you voted him into office, and so I would think it would be natural to expect him to take full advantage of his position and do what he does best... make money. Do you really think that a military coup is good for the entire country? or just a few people?
That's all lie. Thuksin best thing is to make good image. He didn't build good economy. You wanna know how he clear the IMF dept for our country? He do it by took a loan from other countries which have higher interest. Then told the public that the IMF was clear.
He is a lier. Just wait and see.
I don't blame you because you are not Thai like me. That's why you don't understand.
Thuksin didn't even pay taxes when he sold his company to a Singapore company.
Well I'm not rich...and I don't like him.
Thuksin've never really help anything in this country. He good at making image. Well you know what.....he own a sattlelite, a TV channel, UBC cable TV, biggest ISP, two mobile phone service provider, biggest loan company, and many many more.....
He control all the press because he is the press !!!! (he also own many press type)
I don't see anyone come out protesting the coup that they want Thuksin, because they know what type of person Thuksin is.
There are so many many........many corruption involve with this guy. Don't forget to turn on CNN and see the truth, very soon everything will be revealed to the world.
At first his game was to play an making image game with the people in Bangkok...after the truth started to be known then he play his image game out side Bangkok. Finally most of the country knew and....boom game over for ex-PM.
Check the news you see everone love the coup (well most of them).
A real democracy will comes when Thuksin is out !!!
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He is a lier. Just wait and see.
I don't blame you because you are not Thai like me. That's why you don't understand.
Thuksin didn't even pay taxes when he sold his company to a Singapore company.
Well I'm not rich...and I don't like him.
Thuksin've never really help anything in this country. He good at making image. Well you know what.....he own a sattlelite, a TV channel, UBC cable TV, biggest ISP, two mobile phone service provider, biggest loan company, and many many more.....
He control all the press because he is the press !!!! (he also own many press type)
I don't see anyone come out protesting the coup that they want Thuksin, because they know what type of person Thuksin is.
There are so many many........many corruption involve with this guy. Don't forget to turn on CNN and see the truth, very soon everything will be revealed to the world.
At first his game was to play an making image game with the people in Bangkok...after the truth started to be known then he play his image game out side Bangkok. Finally most of the country knew and....boom game over for ex-PM.
Check the news you see everone love the coup (well most of them).
A real democracy will comes when Thuksin is out !!!
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well nappa, way I see it is, you elected a goose and expected it to lay gold eggs, when it gave you goose eggs, you cooked the goose. I am not Thai so I may not understand the situation clearly. But from my point of view, Thailand would have been better off without the coup. It would have been better if Thaksin was replaced using the process that everyone agreed to follow. Right now, who will replace him? are you sure the one who will replace him will not be corrupt? Will all the money Thaksin 'stole' be returned to Thailand? Who will pay for that? The rich folks? Im not for Thaksin, just for democracy. What happens when the replacement is also not performing as expected? another coup? Each time there is a coup, foreign investors get goose bumps. Economy goes down, who suffers? The rich folks? nope. Oh and dont watch CNN. Go to BBC.
Is Thaksin still in London or has he gone back to Thailand? I heard that he could be charged for corruption if he returns to Thailand. If he wanted to stay in London, would be granted a protection visa from the British government or will he be deported from UK? It's amazing how the tables have turned - one minute a filthy rich Prime Minister and the next minute an exile.
Does anyone know whether Thaksin had his assets outside of thailand or inside. Since he's in exile, he might not be a billionaire anymore. If he is still a billionaire, that perhaps suggests he really is corrupt- because he knew he was guilty of corruption, sold his shares and wired the money of the country. If hes poor in London, then perhaps it suggests he is innocent, never planned on betraying his nation by chucking a runner and the military is planning an islamic revolution and militarisation of the nation under the false pretence of justice.
| discountcontacts wrote: |
| Does anyone know whether Thaksin had his assets outside of thailand or inside. |
Well, he has many....many bussinesses around the world ! not only in Asia but also in other regions.
Therefore, he will never broke. And he will always be a billionaire. You can't imagine how many properties he has right now. He still in top 20th world richest man.
| NemoySpruce wrote: |
| well nappa, way I see it is, you elected a goose and expected it to lay gold eggs, when it gave you goose eggs, you cooked the goose. |
hahahha.....and I can't wait to taste that goose
Yeh I was shocked when I heard about this. Thailand has had a stable moderate democracy for a long time. From what I've heard It's been a largely peaceful coup which has public support and the military has promised to step down as soon as a new election is called but what's to stop them from doing it again or in some other way influencing political decisions?
I think Thailand's a great country so I hope things do go back to normal soon and this isn't the start of a shift towards increased miltary power over the government.
I think Thailand's a great country so I hope things do go back to normal soon and this isn't the start of a shift towards increased miltary power over the government.
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Does the king run the country? If not, it amazes me how much rubbish people with no knowledge at all about the meaning of words they are talking about. If he does run the country, it amazes me how much rubbish people with no knowledge at all about the meaning of words they are talking about...
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You are correct, he does not rule the country and I did not say that he did.
I said "The King is in fact quite a powerful figure in Thailand.
That is why the military use him to justify the coup. They do not dare rise up against the King or they would loose public support."
and I believe that nappa's statement "Yes, the king is behind this. Not because he run the country, but because every single Thais listen to him. Also the army with no exception. In this country we worship our king and no one is allow to touch him." verifies this.
well, it was to happen with all the allegations towards the prime minister in the recent history of thailand. The coup was rather a surprise to me too, but i dont know too much of politics and from the quite calm approach of the people towards this coup i think people like it this way. The King has given support to it and this military is just temporary till the new elections.
I think the former prime minister did devote his time and power to some extent to his business; he was a very successful business man.!
I think the former prime minister did devote his time and power to some extent to his business; he was a very successful business man.!
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