Peace be upon you guys.
I need a really simple CMS or a CMS that can be used for simples purposes (i.e. turn off features such as member groups).
I only want to use it for creating articles, searching for articles, creating groups/categories.
Does anyone know one?
May God bless you.
I think a blog system is very suitable for your needs, there is a topic where I listed the 3 most used blog systems, take a look at the second post for the links to their website. I would recommend PHP-Fusion to anyone recently because of it's ease tp use. You can change pritty much anything!
It does lack stats tho.. and as it isnt very popular, it doesnt have many templates or modules for it.
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| I think a blog system is very suitable for your needs, there is a topic where I listed the 3 most used blog systems, take a look at the second post for the links to their website. |
which of the three do you recommend? i can't seem to find a demo for the six apart blog. i found the other two really good.
thanks.
May God bless you.I would recommend (although some people would disagree with me) Wordpress. It's the most widely used, lot's of templates, webstandards compliant, most blogs in Frihost uses it, it's easy to install, and it works like a charm. I tested Wordpress and liked a lot... I never tested the others, though... give it a shot. No problem, dude... if you have any other doubts feel free to ask here, and we'll be glad do help you.
When you get it installed, show us your first impressions 
Maybe Drupal is what you're searching for.
Take a look at drupal.org.
Bye
i tried droopal. it's too complex.
May God bless you.
PhpWebSite http://phpwebsite.appstate.edu/ is a simple as you could probably get outside of coranto http://coranto.gweilo.org/ (which uses SHTML including techniques rather than a full fledged system like phpwebsite). | loyal wrote: |
i tried droopal. it's too complex.
May God bless you. |
Maybe it's one of the more simple ... if you know a little of php ... 
Php fusion is a very good CMS.
http://www.php-fusion.co.uk
Best regards:
Matte52
Btw: you can read all the futures on thiers homepages. guys, what about mediawiki?
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| guys, what about mediawiki? |
Way too cliche for wikis, but probably the simple you've been looking for because it has no centralized Admin CP. Spend time making a unique design like eDuke32 did and remove the cliche interface.I've heard people say WordPress is the ONLY CMS around, I won't really agree to that, but I'll still recommend it over others plainly because its under constant development.
Another good choice is Nucleus CMS.
| loyal wrote: |
Peace be upon you guys.
I need a really simple CMS or a CMS that can be used for simples purposes (i.e. turn off features such as member groups).
I only want to use it for creating articles, searching for articles, creating groups/categories.
Does anyone know one?
May God bless you. |
I think you'd need WebsiteBaker because of the following features:
1. easy to install
2. can be used with a blog section
3. WYSIWYG posting
It is as easy to install as WordPress and it is not as bulky as Geeklog. It has an admin interface that is simple to understand.
It is now in version 2.0 and stable. It would be great for a small site even for a medium sized one. 
Wordpress , is the best CMS , suited for your purpose .
Take a look at , my site , i have exactly the same need as yours .
Wordpress works like a charm , when u dont want hazzles and just your work .
My wordpress blog , here ,
http://www.rani-mukharji.com/wordpress/ And loyal , that photo sure , looks cute .
its great . anyway .
Php-Fusion is good. I can show an example:
http://caliptrix.ueuo.com
But i don't know how complex it is.
I hope you enjoy.
And Drupal: yes, I think it is a little more complex than Fusion. | loyal wrote: |
Peace be upon you guys.
I need a really simple CMS or a CMS that can be used for simples purposes (i.e. turn off features such as member groups).
I only want to use it for creating articles, searching for articles, creating groups/categories.
Does anyone know one?
May God bless you. |
The best CMS that fits your specifications is Dragonfly CMS. It's kind of similar to PHP-Nuke, but contains some much more features!
* 10x faster than PHP-Nuke
* Great developers community
* Built-in phpBB forums! - This feature is so awesome!
* Built in security features. More secure than PHP-Nuke
* Groups features. Set them up and you can give them permissions.
* RSS feeds. Great for news/articles!
* Really easy to use and doesn't have bloated features like Drupal and TikiWiki. The interface is so nice, even a child can use it...
* Some modules include: Wiki, Blogs, IRC access (freenode), Projects (manage projects and etc.).
You can check their official site here: http://dragonflycms.org/
To see what a real site looks like with Dragonfly: http://kucalc.frih.net
I hope you're choice for your CMS is Dragonfly! | kucomp wrote: |
| loyal wrote: | Peace be upon you guys.
I need a really simple CMS or a CMS that can be used for simples purposes (i.e. turn off features such as member groups).
I only want to use it for creating articles, searching for articles, creating groups/categories.
Does anyone know one?
May God bless you. |
The best CMS that fits your specifications is Dragonfly CMS. It's kind of similar to PHP-Nuke, but contains some much more features!
* 10x faster than PHP-Nuke
* Great developers community
* Built-in phpBB forums! - This feature is so awesome!
* Built in security features. More secure than PHP-Nuke
* Groups features. Set them up and you can give them permissions.
* RSS feeds. Great for news/articles!
* Really easy to use and doesn't have bloated features like Drupal and TikiWiki. The interface is so nice, even a child can use it...
* Some modules include: Wiki, Blogs, IRC access (freenode), Projects (manage projects and etc.).
You can check their official site here: http://dragonflycms.org/
To see what a real site looks like with Dragonfly: http://kucalc.frih.net
I hope you're choice for your CMS is Dragonfly! |
More features != Simplicity | {name here} wrote: |
More features != Simplicity |
Nowhere in my post did I say that more features give greater simplicity. Anyways, you quote is not true all the time. As for this case:
Dragonfly is 10x than PHP-Nuke
This is a feature. Does it mean that Dragonfly is more hard to use?
Dragonfly comes packaged with a built-in phpBB forums
This feature actually lowers down complexity. Most CMS give you the hassle of having YOU to integrate a phpBB forum yourself.
Dragonfly is more secure than PHP-Nuke. (Advance security features)
I don't see how this can make a user more confused...
By the way, have you tried out Dragonfly? I have tried out a lot of those CMS listed above: Drupal, TikiWiki, PHP-Fusion, Wordpress, Geeklog and Nucleus CMS. Even some not listed up there: Joomla!, Xoops... The list grows more, but out of all of them I think Dragonfly is the best with it balancing power and ease of use.
Before you pre-judge something maybe you should try it out first:
http://www.opensourcecms.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=351&Itemid=0has anyone tried Drupal.
i think drupal is good cms.
u can get it at drupal.org
After reading the posts here I'm leaning toward Dragonfly. For those of you who use Dragonfly, did you learn it from the documentation on the DragonflyCMS website or some other website? I'm new to this CMS stuff.
peace be upon you all.
i tried and tested lots of the cms on http://www.opensourcecms.com/
i really like dragonfly. but still too complex. i won't have a cms i've decided. I'll do everything manually.
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| After reading the posts here I'm leaning toward Dragonfly. For those of you who use Dragonfly, did you learn it from the documentation on the DragonflyCMS website or some other website? I'm new to this CMS stuff. |
For me, I didn't need documentation to learn Dragonfly. It's fairly simple to use and you can figure out most of it using common sense. If you want gnllr, I can install Dragonfly for you and let have a feel at it.
| loyal wrote: |
peace be upon you all.
i tried and tested lots of the cms on http://www.opensourcecms.com/
i really like dragonfly. but still too complex. i won't have a cms i've decided. I'll do everything manually.
may God bless you all. |
Same thing with you loyal, if you want I'll install it for you and you can have a go at it.
Just a little story... When I was starting out making my webpages, I started out using forums on my sites. But then later, I decided a CMS is more appropriate for a community type of site. After looking, installing, trying it, then uninstalling after about more than 50 CMS's (you name it, I've tried it before: Joomla, Xoops, TYPO3, PHP-Nuke & Fusion, Geeklog, TikiWiki, Wordpress, etc.) on my old account on FreeHostia, I found that only Dragonfly is the best suited balancing power and ease. Easy to use and intuitive, provides better security than other CMS's, easy to install patches, good developers community, built-in phpBB forum, built-in photo gallery and manager and module manager makes installing plugins a fun thing instead of a chore. | kucomp wrote: |
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More features != Simplicity |
Nowhere in my post did I say that more features give greater simplicity. Anyways, you quote is not true all the time. As for this case:
Dragonfly is 10x than PHP-Nuke
This is a feature. Does it mean that Dragonfly is more hard to use? |
No, and it's quite an improvement on the bloated thing. But where does complexity factor in to hardness of use? OS X is complex but it conveys its complexity in an easy way.
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Dragonfly comes packaged with a built-in phpBB forums
This feature actually lowers down complexity. Most CMS give you the hassle of having YOU to integrate a phpBB forum yourself.
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PhpBB is low on my totem pole of decent forum systems. If you really want simplicity, FlingForum and FlatForum are better, lighter, and faster. The guy didn't even ask for a forum. He just wanted something like a blog. SiteFrame would have done everything he ever wanted.
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Dragonfly is more secure than PHP-Nuke. (Advance security features)
I don't see how this can make a user more confused...
By the way, have you tried out Dragonfly? I have tried out a lot of those CMS listed above: Drupal, TikiWiki, PHP-Fusion, Wordpress, Geeklog and Nucleus CMS. Even some not listed up there: Joomla!, Xoops... The list grows more, but out of all of them I think Dragonfly is the best with it balancing power and ease of use.
Before you pre-judge something maybe you should try it out first:
http://www.opensourcecms.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=351&Itemid=0 |
I've tried Dragonfly. It definately can trim down a lot, starting with all those images in the CP. As I said he needs nothing like a full featured site with all those bells and whistles. The humble Coranto could do for his purposes, which can barely get any mind bendingly simpler in size, use, and interface - it cuts the crap and the only thing fattening it up is your own web design. | {name here} wrote: |
PhpBB is low on my totem pole of decent forum systems. If you really want simplicity, FlingForum and FlatForum are better, lighter, and faster. The guy didn't even ask for a forum. He just wanted something like a blog. SiteFrame would have done everything he ever wanted.
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Dude, listen to yourself talking. The Frihost forum runs on phpBB. Why? Because it's probably the best choice, again offering a balance between power and ease. It known for it's security and great features. phpBB has a greater developer community and is well respected. Most experts will agree with me. Just ask any other guy who has had real experience.
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I've tried Dragonfly. It definately can trim down a lot, starting with all those images in the CP. As I said he needs nothing like a full featured site with all those bells and whistles. The humble Coranto could do for his purposes, which can barely get any mind bendingly simpler in size, use, and interface - it cuts the crap and the only thing fattening it up is your own web design. |
You haven't really tried Dragonfly. Again, you're just pre-judging it based on it's CP. The icons in Dragonfly make the interface more inviting. Cutting out those images, is like trying to use Windows or surf the web without ever clicking on icons. Also Coranto sucks. I've tried it out. It doesn't even have all the features the guy was asking for like a blog system and it's ratings suck also: http://cmsmatrix.org/matrix/cms-matrix?func=viewDetail;listingId=Fh9NJF7lgqP53-dtbN2oBQ
Why use a Perl system like Coranto? PHP is now the future. I also hate interfaces (that have no icons or pics) that suck so much like this site that's powered by Coranto: http://www.corantodemo.net/. It makes people take a look at this site and hate it and never come back again. 
Php-Nuke and Php-Fusion has the same design. It is hard to chnage it. And I think they are not suitable for a plane website. Whenever I see a website based php-nuke or php-fusion, I realize that they have always same type, and even though site is empty, all menu (navigator) looks like it is a big and complex website.
I think Drupal is some hard to install, but Joomla is very nice and adaptable, changable as your wish. Design and usage seems better than php-nuke, and php-fusion.
May God be with you&your website work!
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PhpBB is low on my totem pole of decent forum systems. If you really want simplicity, FlingForum and FlatForum are better, lighter, and faster. The guy didn't even ask for a forum. He just wanted something like a blog. SiteFrame would have done everything he ever wanted.
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Dude, listen to yourself talking. The Frihost forum runs on phpBB. Why? Because it's probably the best choice, again offering a balance between power and ease. It known for it's security and great features. phpBB has a greater developer community and is well respected. Most experts will agree with me. Just ask any other guy who has had real experience. |
So what? I've used PhpBB, and it really sucked compared to IPB 2.x. Heck, it doesn't even have half the features through mods of IPB 2.x or even YaBB! As for FlingForum and FlatForum, they have some good advantages over PhpBB, too. They take up just 1 MB or so, have a threaded view, and can deliver results with speed, not to mention the ability to delete multiple threads at the same time, which is quite handy.
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I've tried Dragonfly. It definately can trim down a lot, starting with all those images in the CP. As I said he needs nothing like a full featured site with all those bells and whistles. The humble Coranto could do for his purposes, which can barely get any mind bendingly simpler in size, use, and interface - it cuts the crap and the only thing fattening it up is your own web design. |
You haven't really tried Dragonfly. Again, you're just pre-judging it based on it's CP. The icons in Dragonfly make the interface more inviting. Cutting out those images, is like trying to use Windows or surf the web without ever clicking on icons. Also Coranto sucks. I've tried it out. It doesn't even have all the features the guy was asking for like a blog system and it's ratings suck also: http://cmsmatrix.org/matrix/cms-matrix?func=viewDetail;listingId=Fh9NJF7lgqP53-dtbN2oBQ
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If you ever used Lynx, you'd know how to browse the web without ever clicking on an icon. As for ratings - ratings are just ratings. I've found Post-Nuke, DokuWiki, TikiWiki, mkPortal, Joomla, and Mambo all to suck, and the CMSes that are on opensourcecms.com give these CMSes fours. I like coranto because it is small, everything you'd need for a news portal, downloads area, article area, et cetera. if you know how to use it.
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| Why use a Perl system like Coranto? PHP is now the future. I also hate interfaces (that have no icons or pics) that suck so much like this site that's powered by Coranto: http://www.corantodemo.net/. It makes people take a look at this site and hate it and never come back again. |
Does it matter what language it is scripted in? It's like saying you shouldn't use a C programmed application because C++ is a better language.
As for coranto not being that good http://www.petesqbsite.com/ is run by coranto almost completely and looking quite good. #2, in the QB Top 50 I believe trailing just below a site that simply has its amount of traffic because of its domain. | {name here} wrote: |
So what? I've used PhpBB, and it really sucked compared to IPB 2.x. Heck, it doesn't even have half the features through mods of IPB 2.x or even YaBB! As for FlingForum and FlatForum, they have some good advantages over PhpBB, too. They take up just 1 MB or so, have a threaded view, and can deliver results with speed, not to mention the ability to delete multiple threads at the same time, which is quite handy.
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Oh yeah, like we're so rich and stupid, let's spend $69.95 a year on IPB when phpBB is for free. 
IPB is not even allowed on FRIHOST!!!! Seems like you were trying to mislead people so they would violate FRIHOST Terms of Service. Don't try to trick us {name_here}!!! http://www.frihost.com/tos.php
Dude, look at phpBB 3.0 coming out and phpBB only takes up like 3MB and it's not really even slow.
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If you ever used Lynx, you'd know how to browse the web without ever clicking on an icon. As for ratings - ratings are just ratings. I've found Post-Nuke, DokuWiki, TikiWiki, mkPortal, Joomla, and Mambo all to suck, and the CMSes that are on opensourcecms.com give these CMSes fours. I like coranto because it is small, everything you'd need for a news portal, downloads area, article area, et cetera. if you know how to use it.
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If you ever used DOS, you'd know how to use a computer without ever clicking on a icon. The CMS you listed their: Post-Nuke, DokuWiki, TikiWiki, Joomla actually don't really suck. In measuring features, security, developers community, all those CMS's are at least better than Coranto. Tell me, does Coranto offer good security? Does it also have a blogging system like what the guy was asking for? Does Coranto have RSS feeds, blog system? Does it have a Wiki, Project Management, Gallery, Charts, Slide Shows, Chat, Flash Games, Maps, Trackers and Graphing system like TikiWiki? Although TikiWiki is a bit complicated, it's so much better than Coranto which only offers somewhat a skeleton (like a super-stripped version of TikiWiki) of something like TikiWiki. Does Coranto have a big developers community ready to weed out bugs and loopholes where hackers could get in like Joomla?
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As for coranto not being that good http://www.petesqbsite.com/ is run by coranto almost completely and looking quite good. #2, in the QB Top 50 I believe trailing just below a site that simply has its amount of traffic because of its domain. |
If you look in the bottom of the site it says: "Pete's QBasic Site is powered by Coranto. This site was created entirely in Notepad." I bet that if you contact that owner of the site, he would say he had to do some heavy modifications. But, I bet you also that he knew Perl to be able to modify Coranto. Most people today don't really know Perl, but know PHP. PHP is easy to understand and is quickly becoming the standard.
Dragonfly on the other hand, it's only about 4.5MB uncompressed. It's fast, easy to modify and shape it to the way you want it. It includes a built-in forum, photo gallery, RSS feeds system, a language converter to convert the system between more than 50 languages, 30% core reduction compared to PHP-Nuke, security features (security codes, safe against UNION and other attackers), WYSIWYG editor and database accelerated all in 4.5MB. It has all the features the guy above was asking also. Coranto on the other hand lacks a blog system, which the guy was asking above.
Take a look at my site which runs Dragonfly: http://kucalc.frih.net/ | kucomp wrote: |
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So what? I've used PhpBB, and it really sucked compared to IPB 2.x. Heck, it doesn't even have half the features through mods of IPB 2.x or even YaBB! As for FlingForum and FlatForum, they have some good advantages over PhpBB, too. They take up just 1 MB or so, have a threaded view, and can deliver results with speed, not to mention the ability to delete multiple threads at the same time, which is quite handy.
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Oh yeah, like we're so rich and stupid, let's spend $69.95 a year on IPB when phpBB is for free.
IPB is not even allowed on FRIHOST!!!! Seems like you were trying to mislead people so they would violate FRIHOST Terms of Service. Don't try to trick us {name_here}!!! http://www.frihost.com/tos.php
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It is allowed, but you must email bondings a proof of purchase to allow it.
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Dude, look at phpBB 3.0 coming out and phpBB only takes up like 3MB and it's not really even slow.
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Hopefully it's not even using frames anymore on its CP
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If you ever used Lynx, you'd know how to browse the web without ever clicking on an icon. As for ratings - ratings are just ratings. I've found Post-Nuke, DokuWiki, TikiWiki, mkPortal, Joomla, and Mambo all to suck, and the CMSes that are on opensourcecms.com give these CMSes fours. I like coranto because it is small, everything you'd need for a news portal, downloads area, article area, et cetera. if you know how to use it.
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If you ever used DOS, you'd know how to use a computer without ever clicking on a icon.
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It's not that bad if you actually know how to use it. In fact, you can work much faster through a CLI or even Plan 9's rio(which is much like TWM but with mouse chording and many other useful features) rather than a WIMP GUI.
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The CMS you listed their: Post-Nuke, DokuWiki, TikiWiki, Joomla actually don't really suck. In measuring features, security, developers community, all those CMS's are at least better than Coranto.
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Well, with the exception of DokuWiki(which I do semi like), when you waste 10 MB or more without extra templates on something that can be written in half or even greater than half that size with possibly twice the speed and the consumption of infinitely less server resources, do they really not suck? SiteFrame can do just about as much as Joomla, but it takes half the size of Joomla. The same thing goes for Post-Nuke and TikiWiki. DokuWiki, which I am running for osFree because I have no other decent alternative for a Wiki which I can make templates for, is kind of in the middle, because it lacks some features.
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| Tell me, does Coranto offer good security? Does it also have a blogging system like what the guy was asking for? Does Coranto have RSS feeds, blog system? |
Coranto can be used as a blogging system, and I bet that there somewhere is an RSS feed extentsion(although I doubt you'd ever have a site so popular that it actually demands it).
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Does it have a Wiki, Project Management, Gallery, Charts, Slide Shows, Chat, Flash Games, Maps, Trackers and Graphing system like TikiWiki? Although TikiWiki is a bit complicated, it's so much better than Coranto which only offers somewhat a skeleton (like a super-stripped version of TikiWiki) of something like TikiWiki. Does Coranto have a big developers community ready to weed out bugs and loopholes where hackers could get in like Joomla?
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Just about how many features are what that guy asked for? For god's sake who'd ever need all those features? I don't know one site that would need all those features. It eats more CPU and memory than needed. All those features could have easily been implemented in two features with the exception of the slide show(pointless for the type of site the CMS was designed for), and Chat system(which could be easily implemented still by embedding one) - Wiki, and a Gallery. That's how bloated that is.
Coranto does not have a big developers community but does it really need one for such a small CMS that few people use? It's like saying Linux is better than OS/2 because it has a bigger community.
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As for coranto not being that good http://www.petesqbsite.com/ is run by coranto almost completely and looking quite good. #2, in the QB Top 50 I believe trailing just below a site that simply has its amount of traffic because of its domain. |
If you look in the bottom of the site it says: "Pete's QBasic Site is powered by Coranto. This site was created entirely in Notepad." I bet that if you contact that owner of the site, he would say he had to do some heavy modifications. But, I bet you also that he knew Perl to be able to modify Coranto. Most people today don't really know Perl, but know PHP. PHP is easy to understand and is quickly becoming the standard.
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Ask him. I know pete has installed a few extensions but I'll bet that he didn't overhaul coranto for at least the news system. You can tell that he did do some modifying for only one section of the site - the downloads system which is clearly run by it because of its use of SHTML.
I used to run OS Advocacy with coranto, and it was completely automated without modification - I had links, articles, news stories - everything for my site in coranto until I wanted to to be more community based and I switched to SiteFrame. It could even function as a blog if I wanted it to with the addition of one single extension - commenting.
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Dragonfly on the other hand, it's only about 4.5MB uncompressed. It's fast, easy to modify and shape it to the way you want it. It includes a built-in forum, photo gallery, RSS feeds system, a language converter to convert the system between more than 50 languages, 30% core reduction compared to PHP-Nuke, security features (security codes, safe against UNION and other attackers), WYSIWYG editor and database accelerated all in 4.5MB. It has all the features the guy above was asking also. Coranto on the other hand lacks a blog system, which the guy was asking above. |
Size seems good, converter a good idea(but useless at the end of the day unless you really expect to have people who don't understand english on your site, and usually that only happens with development projects. In other words dead weight), but if templating is that easy, why don't you create a unique template for your site rather than relying on a cookie-cutter template?
Coranto can function as a blog system, has an optional WYSIWYG editor, no database(a double edged sword since it can save time but it can also compromise security), and could function as a photo gallery.
I notice you have many features you don't even use, and the site lags a bit - 30 seconds to open via opera initially with 26 KBps DSL modem. | {name here} wrote: |
It is allowed, but you must email bondings a proof of purchase to allow it.
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You're still trying to hide the fact that IPB costs $69.95 a year. phpBB is free, well respected, tons of mods, small 3MB, and you're using a phpBB forum right now.
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Just about how many features are what that guy asked for? For god's sake who'd ever need all those features? I don't know one site that would need all those features. It eats more CPU and memory than needed. All those features could have easily been implemented in two features with the exception of the slide show(pointless for the type of site the CMS was designed for), and Chat system(which could be easily implemented still by embedding one) - Wiki, and a Gallery. That's how bloated that is.
Coranto does not have a big developers community but does it really need one for such a small CMS that few people use? It's like saying Linux is better than OS/2 because it has a bigger community.
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You're not reading carefully! (Or it could be that you are so ignorant...) I never recommended those CMSs to the guy. I said, they are better than Coranto in measure of features and security! Besides, in TikiWiki, those features could be disabled!
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Size seems good, converter a good idea(but useless at the end of the day unless you really expect to have people who don't understand english on your site, and usually that only happens with development projects. In other words dead weight), but if templating is that easy, why don't you create a unique template for your site rather than relying on a cookie-cutter template? |
Again, you're just proving that you are a loudmouth. Templating doesn't mean only modifying code (In Dragonfly, it's easy to do). It also means having and creating a set of nice graphics. That, I don't have the time to do. Besides, the template I'm using looks nice and cool. Mathematically (hey, I operate a site dedicated to calculators...), more people would say my site is more inviting and pleasing to the eye than yours. Also, the language translation system is useful, I have people from all over the world like France, Japan, Germany, Portugal visiting my site.
Oh yeah, does Coranto support Groups which members could join, like what the guy was asking for above? Could the guy also change and modify groups? Dragonfly handles it....
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I notice you have many features you don't even use, and the site lags a bit - 30 seconds to open via opera initially with 26 KBps DSL modem. |
You can thank FRIHOST for your the time it took to get the page. Running on a local server, having every module and feature activated in my site, the page will load up 1.238s (Wicked fast!). Visiting my kucalc site on the web, with my temp files and cache cleared up, It only takes 8.283s (still decent!) on FireFox for the whole entire page to load up.There's no reason this should continue in this thread. Continue this in PMs if you care to continue this pitiful argument.
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It is allowed, but you must email bondings a proof of purchase to allow it.
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You're still trying to hide the fact that IPB costs $69.95 a year. phpBB is free, well respected, tons of mods, small 3MB, and you're using a phpBB forum right now.
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It doesn't matter how many mods there are if you all find them equally useless. In fact, the only board I ever wanted mods for because it was so lacking was PhpBB, and if you don't want to use IPB, then you can always use another board like SMF and YaBB.
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Just about how many features are what that guy asked for? For god's sake who'd ever need all those features? I don't know one site that would need all those features. It eats more CPU and memory than needed. All those features could have easily been implemented in two features with the exception of the slide show(pointless for the type of site the CMS was designed for), and Chat system(which could be easily implemented still by embedding one) - Wiki, and a Gallery. That's how bloated that is.
Coranto does not have a big developers community but does it really need one for such a small CMS that few people use? It's like saying Linux is better than OS/2 because it has a bigger community.
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You're not reading carefully! (Or it could be that you are so ignorant...) I never recommended those CMSs to the guy. I said, they are better than Coranto in measure of features and security! Besides, in TikiWiki, those features could be disabled!
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At the same time is wastes 45 MB of space for features you will never use if you just want a wiki and a forum - thats hundreds of posts and wiki pages worth of space wasted. At the same time, just like slash, it can't be installed on a host like anything else - you need SSH or Fantastico to do it. Now tell me how Coranto is less secure than TikiWiki. I mean the absolute worst thing that could happen in coranto is a few spammers - no SQL injection attacks are possible, and few people are going to go and try to modify a Perl script. The language is so garbled that I don't think anyone who is going on cracking run is going to do anything that bad to a perl script to try and screw up your site outside of deleting it, and because it's so small it's of no consequence. Data could be destroyed because of its flat-file nature, but unless somebody hijacks an admin or your account I think it's safe.
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Size seems good, converter a good idea(but useless at the end of the day unless you really expect to have people who don't understand english on your site, and usually that only happens with development projects. In other words dead weight), but if templating is that easy, why don't you create a unique template for your site rather than relying on a cookie-cutter template? |
Again, you're just proving that you are a loudmouth. Templating doesn't mean only modifying code (In Dragonfly, it's easy to do). It also means having and creating a set of nice graphics. That, I don't have the time to do. Besides, the template I'm using looks nice and cool. Mathematically (hey, I operate a site dedicated to calculators...), more people would say my site is more inviting and pleasing to the eye than yours. Also, the language translation system is useful, I have people from all over the world like France, Japan, Germany, Portugal visiting my site.
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Keep in mind the best designs don't necessarily are image heavy, for example take a look at Phat Code. I actually did at one point have OS Advocacy have images, but at the same time even with the use of high compression image formats, it was slow and I abandoned further development of it in favor of moving on to SiteFrame and having a lighter template.
Most of my sites have only Americans and Brits coming in to them or know english, and so I do not require language translation services and are thus utterly useless to me. osFree(which is not my site), however does have "language translation services"(in quotes because the only translation services that I can even provide are language namespaces).
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Oh yeah, does Coranto support Groups which members could join, like what the guy was asking for above? Could the guy also change and modify groups? Dragonfly handles it....
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It does support user levels, which you could use as groups.
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I notice you have many features you don't even use, and the site lags a bit - 30 seconds to open via opera initially with 26 KBps DSL modem. |
You can thank FRIHOST for your the time it took to get the page. Running on a local server, having every module and feature activated in my site, the page will load up 1.238s (Wicked fast!). Visiting my kucalc site on the web, with my temp files and cache cleared up, It only takes 8.283s (still decent!) on FireFox for the whole entire page to load up. |
You don't thank FrihHost for that, you thank every person running a bloated CMS on the server. Then again my DSL modem is erratic - one site loads fast and the other doesn't and then the next day it's the reverse with osFree being the exception as it's connection is always fair no matter if I use a library computer or my own. | {name here} wrote: |
But you're paying for quality(although I'd say it's only worth $70.00). vBulletin
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Yes, if we were able to pay $69.95 for just a forum, why not pay also for hosting?!?! Then that means I can say you should use Dragonfly because of better quality than Coranto. Also, while we are still talking about forums, does Coranto have a integrated forum like Dragonfly? Dragonfly, only 4.5MB, contains a complete integrated forum.
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It does support user levels, which you could use as groups.
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Dragonfly does a much better job at that than Coranto.
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You don't thank FrihHost for that, you thank every person running a bloated CMS on the server. Then again my DSL modem is erratic - one site loads fast and the other doesn't and then the next day it's the reverse with osFree being the exception as it's connection is always fair no matter if I use a library computer or my own. |
If that is true, then why did you say my site is laggy? It should be the server right?
Now, what most people who have accounts here running a site would do is use a CMS with a forum combo. So they go get PHP-Nuke (or Drupal, TikiWiki, Joomla) and phpBB, install them separately and link them together using up 10MB just to get the job done. Dragonfly gives you the power of a CMS, a integrated forum, and plus a image gallery just for under 4.5MB. It also doesn't put a huge load on the server, using 50% less database calls than PHP-Nuke deriatives. With Dragonfly, phpBB and the core CMS share the same database allowing acceleration. Thus if everyone using PHP-Nuke (or PHP-Fusion) right now would convert to Dragonfly, server processing and load would reduce in a whoppin 30%!!!
Now, wouldn't that be wonderful? Everyone gets what they want, a CMS with forum integrated, and the server will be happy and have less lags and downtimes.
Last edited by kucomp on Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:53 am; edited 1 time in totalRelook. I actually edited it when you were responding. It usually takes an edit before I think straight, well for big posts.
e107 or Wordpress...
for many lanuages.. i use e107
Anyone using Typo3? I've got that up and running and it seems to be a good CMS. They have good documentation too. www.typo3.org I think you should try: "CMS Made Simple". Thats the name of the CMS!
Drupal, my friends have been recommending this to me. but i've been using joomla for years now. and shifting is something i havent considered. any advice?
Has anyone considered this:
The Open Source Content Management System Award, 2007
After more than 18,000 votes this was the outcome
Results
2007 Overall Open Source Content Management System Award:
1. Drupal
2. Joomla!
3. CMS Made Simple
For more Info - http://www.packtpub.com/award
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When I first started with cms I played with PHPnuke for a bit. Then I found Joomla which was much more to my liking, although I did find it a bit heavy duty for the small site I was building at the time.
Now, I've been playing with Modx. I think it's great. Simple to install and dead easy to get the hang of...
I could go on and on about it but I think you'd be daft not to take a look for yourself http://modxcms.com/Home.html
Modx also won first place for the 'Most Promising Open Source Content Management System:' in the above mentioned awards 
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Maybe Drupal is what you're searching for.
Take a look at drupal.org.
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Can you show me websites build in DRUPAL or WORPRESS hosted in frihost?
I want to see how its looks
thanksHave you looked at Joomla?
It's free, easy to set up, easy to maintain and should give you everything you need with plenty of room for growth. There are 1000s of free templates and a lot of extensions and add-ons if you eventually need to do something a little out of the ordinary.
I've just set up the basics of a guest-house system and was surprised how quickly I managed to strip out all the bloat to give a simple, clean, uncluttered appearance.
To do:
- Pad the current (mostly text) content out with images of the guest house, local attractions, maps etc.
- Modify the template images to 'brand' the site and make it match the branding of the guest house's stationery.
I have no doubt that both of these tasks will be straightforward.
- Install a reservation and payments system.
Certainly more complex than the other two tasks as a PayPal link is required.
