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New anime website being started






Do you think you might use this site?
yes
28%
 28%  [ 6 ]
no
33%
 33%  [ 7 ]
maybe
38%
 38%  [ 8 ]
Total Votes : 21

rossss
I'm starting a new anime website for downloading all the decent anime series in torrent format, its still being built at the minute. Everything will be 100% legal. I'm trying to make it a download base for all the decent anime series, updated as new episodes come out.
If anyone has any suggestions, comments, or links to your favourite fansub websites, it would be appreciated.
The address is http://fanime.to.md
xframe
It might be hard to get alot of users on your site simply because there are an many quality anime sites out there that don't even bother with torrents. They have direct downloads available to users who register. Most people would probably prefer direct downloads over torrents. To give you idea of what i mean.... bleach7.com and anime-eden.com. But I guess if you supply torrents with alot of seeds you might have alittle better luck.

As far as your design...are you expierenced enough in html to code a more complicated layout? bc if you are i'll be willing to make the layout free of charge if you put my link button on your main page. for an example of my work heres my site...http://xframe.frih.net. Just toss me a pm or somthing if you are interested.
rossss
I know what you mean about people wanting direct downloads, but tbh, i much prefer bittorrent for large files, ive spoke to quite a few people with the same view. Also, host space and total bandwidth would be a major problem for me if i implemented direct downloads, so i'm not gonna try and compete with larger sites that offer this.
I'd like to have a site that brings together the most popular anime torrents, so avid anime fans dont need to keep going to different sites to get each weeks episodes.
I had a look at your site, the layout is great, and the gfx are really really nice, so I'd love to take you up on that offer. I'll definately send u a PM, but im just about to head off to work just now so don't have time to get things sorted, hopefully we can spk later about it?
And thanks for the feedback Very Happy
tsukino
Hey! You have a very good site! I really love it! Can you please add Chrno Crusade, Full Metal Panic, Chobits, Peace Maker Kurogane and Full Moon wo Sagashite

And about your design...are you expierenced enough in html to code a more complicated layout? bc if you are i'll be willing to make the layout free of charge if you put a link back to my site on your main page. for an example of my work heres my site...http://ang.jukkou.net. Just email me pink.songstress.yuffie@gmail.com
xframe
tsukino wrote:
Hey! You have a very good site! I really love it! Can you please add Chrno Crusade, Full Metal Panic, Chobits, Peace Maker Kurogane and Full Moon wo Sagashite

And about your design...are you expierenced enough in html to code a more complicated layout? bc if you are i'll be willing to make the layout free of charge if you put a link back to my site on your main page. for an example of my work heres my site...http://ang.jukkou.net. Just email me pink.songstress.yuffie@gmail.com



hahaha that post looks familiar...hmmmm lol
cybernie
I'd like to visit your site when it's up already.
Kurosaki-Ichigo
Not a good site. You have a bad layout there. And heres a tip. DO NOT OPEN YOUR SITE WHEN THERES NOTHING IN IT !Thats because when someone come and has a look and sees theres nothing inside he or she wont come back again.
rossss
Hey guys, xframe is doing a layout for me, so far its looking sweet, so im gonna stick with his! I'll check out those series you mentioned though. Kurosaki, i know what u mean, but i'd rather let search engines see the site so it gets into their directories for completion, rather than a just few people who see it and dont come back!
exarkun
Kurosaki-Ichigo wrote:
Not a good site. You have a bad layout there. And heres a tip. DO NOT OPEN YOUR SITE WHEN THERES NOTHING IN IT !Thats because when someone come and has a look and sees theres nothing inside he or she wont come back again.

Maybe he meant that do not promote your website here so quickly. Leave that for google, and promote here once you have contents up.
rossss
xframes done a quality layout which is now finished and uploaded, the naruto downloads are ready, and more will come soon, http://fanime.atspace.com
QrafTee
rossss wrote:
xframes done a quality layout which is now finished and uploaded, the naruto downloads are ready, and more will come soon, http://fanime.atspace.com

Umm... I checked your site out and I feel like I must warn you that Dattebayo definitely HATES when other people directly link to their torrents and have (in the past, not sure now) taken precautions against such activities which may include, but it not limited to instant ban of IP, gay porn, threatening messages, viruses, worms, and annoying pop-ups that do not stop until you restart the computer. So this is your warning in case you get your viewers in a lot of trouble.
rossss
Hi QrafTee, i actually emailed dattebayo about this and got a reply from one of the team, timecop, saying i had permission to link directly, heres an extract from the email;
Quote:
This means, you have two options about our torrents:

1) You can link directly to them, such as http://yhbt.mine.nu/t/n198.torrent
2) You can save the *unmodified* torrent file on your site keeping the
filename same (ex: http://yoursite.com/downloads/n198.torrent)


If i start having any problems i'll swap over to hosting them myself immediately
Dragate
I personally like that site very much.

It looks very professional, in the sense that you are giving away anime downloads.

I think you should have a members option.

I would pay for direct downloads. I really would. You have to keep in mind that people with slow internet would like to go there too. If you just start a torrent site, which there are a billion already and they are all really good, you'll have a hard time with the competition. If you can find yourslef an unlimited bandwidth server/hoster and have it all good, I think direct for members, or even free is a very good way to go.

Sites like Naruto pub and stuff are free, tottaly.

Very nice site, a little heavy on ads, but looks not really like ads. It's not bad.
Scaramanga
rossss wrote:
Everything will be 100% legal.

How do you figure? You're going to have torrents of licensed shows, this is 100% NOT legal.

Also, according to the forum rules this thread should probably be locked.
rossss
There are no illegal files hosted on fanime, all torrents have a "licensed in" table immediately below them to inform page viewers whether or not they may download that anime. Its also in the terms & conditions page, that if a show is licensed where you are, you will not download it. But thanks for the feedback and also thanks for highlighting the issue for others.
Reiji
Well, I like the site layout...and I share your opinion about Kiba. Very Happy

Anyway, the only way those torrents aren´t illegal is that those series aren´t licensed yet, because that helps a serie to develop audience.
Kurosaki-Ichigo
Website doesnt load up anymore !

It says
Quote:
Fanime Loading
Please Wait...


But it doesnt finish loading. Fix it quick.
Scaramanga
rossss wrote:
There are no illegal files hosted on fanime, all torrents have a "licensed in" table immediately below them to inform page viewers whether or not they may download that anime. Its also in the terms & conditions page, that if a show is licensed where you are, you will not download it. But thanks for the feedback and also thanks for highlighting the issue for others.

Uhhh just because the torrents aren't hosted by you doesn't mean you can't be held liable for piracy. Re: Napster/Gnutella/et al. You are facilitating access to said illegal files, regardless. Not trying to rain on your parade, just giving you a heads up. Wouldn't you be better served by not listing torrents for such series' like Naruto and Bleach anyway? I mean everyone and their brother already knows about them. I'd think the anime community, by-and-large, would be better served with links to lesser known shows. But you know, YMMV.
Dark_Kamui
xframe wrote:
It might be hard to get alot of users on your site simply because there are an many quality anime sites out there that don't even bother with torrents. They have direct downloads available to users who register. Most people would probably prefer direct downloads over torrents. To give you idea of what i mean.... bleach7.com and anime-eden.com. But I guess if you supply torrents with alot of seeds you might have alittle better luck.

As far as your design...are you expierenced enough in html to code a more complicated layout? bc if you are i'll be willing to make the layout free of charge if you put my link button on your main page. for an example of my work heres my site...http://xframe.frih.net. Just toss me a pm or somthing if you are interested.


i have to agree. torrent suck arse direct downloads are alot better, 4uhosting.co.uk have good bandwidth for hosting
Kurosaki-Ichigo
I checked back and saw it. Nice layout now but too many adverts.

How about you put on some MMO and Anime adverts instead ?
Scaramanga
Dark_Kamui wrote:
xframe wrote:
It might be hard to get alot of users on your site simply because there are an many quality anime sites out there that don't even bother with torrents. They have direct downloads available to users who register. Most people would probably prefer direct downloads over torrents. To give you idea of what i mean.... bleach7.com and anime-eden.com. But I guess if you supply torrents with alot of seeds you might have alittle better luck.

As far as your design...are you expierenced enough in html to code a more complicated layout? bc if you are i'll be willing to make the layout free of charge if you put my link button on your main page. for an example of my work heres my site...http://xframe.frih.net. Just toss me a pm or somthing if you are interested.

i have to agree. torrent suck arse direct downloads are alot better, 4uhosting.co.uk have good bandwidth for hosting

Uhhh, I'm curious why people think direct downloads are better than torrents and other distributed downloading methods? You DO realize that direct downloads are dependant on server load, and if too many people are downloading at once your DL will be slow as hell. At least with torrents, if one person has a slow connection your client can try to connect with another person who has fatter pipes. Even if there are no seeds left, it IS possible for the whole file to be had.
Kurosaki-Ichigo
Torrents are very good but the problem with them is that they are not "populor" enough. We need double this size of people using Torrents to come and use it. I only found out about torrents a week ago and i thought it was tottaly genius.
Scaramanga
Kurosaki-Ichigo wrote:
Torrents are very good but the problem with them is that they are not "populor" enough.

What makes something popular "enough" for you? I mean on a niche type of show like anime, on the popular series, I can see upwards of 2000 clients and often over 500 seeders. Not to mention torrenting is hugely popular all over Western Europe and Asia, closesly followed by North America.

Also, it still doesn't make my statement that torrents > direct download invalid. Hell, all it takes is 1 or 2 seeders and a few clients, and you can still get a file.
hrtorrent
nice site, I downloaded few animations, it's nice.
Very Happy
tsukiyuuki
Scaramanga wrote:
Kurosaki-Ichigo wrote:
Torrents are very good but the problem with them is that they are not "populor" enough.

What makes something popular "enough" for you? I mean on a niche type of show like anime, on the popular series, I can see upwards of 2000 clients and often over 500 seeders. Not to mention torrenting is hugely popular all over Western Europe and Asia, closesly followed by North America.


I have to agree with Scaramanga about torrents.

In the circles I run in, torrents are the way that mostly everyone downloads their anime, and part of the reason for that is that torrents are often free. What I find with direct downloads is that the places with the most series have a charge, like NarutoFan.com, for example.

I don't know what you meant by torrents not being "popular" enough, either. If you look at the number of times that, say, Dattebayo's Naruto sub torrents have been downloaded, most of them are into the the hundred thousands of downloads. Their sub of episode 151, at this moment, has 327134 downloads. That's 53 TiB of transfer. That's a lot of downloads.
Dark_Tiger
To be brutally honest, scarywater and animesuki have the unlicensed anime bittorrent area pretty much covered. I know of no sub group that does not have their unlicensed stuff listed on one or both of those sites.

Of the less ethical fansubs (Geneon products which are all licensed to Geneon USA, current seasons of long running shows like Naruto and One Piece) those bittorrents are usually hosted on small websites since they are lawsuit fodder.
tsukiyuuki
Dark_Tiger wrote:

Of the less ethical fansubs (Geneon products which are all licensed to Geneon USA, current seasons of long running shows like Naruto and One Piece) those bittorrents are usually hosted on small websites since they are lawsuit fodder.


They definitely are lawsuit fodder, though I personally feel no guilt downloading the new Naruto episodes every week because I started downloading it before there had been any talk about licensing. I'm going to be buying the uncut DVDs, though, so it isn't like I don't support the North American release, I just refuse to watch the dub episodes.

It was s similar situation for me with downloading the FMA anime - in fact, I had downloaded and watched the entire series before it had been mentioned that the manga was going to be brought over. Again, though, I am supporting the North American release. I have all of the manga volumes so far, and have pre-ordered ten, and am buying the uncut DVD releases.
roninmedia
Torrents were built for swarm downloads. Your site will be good for people who are too lazy to go around searching for torrent on individual fansubs sites.

IRC is the best way to get anime. Wink
Kurosaki-Ichigo
Scaramanga wrote:
Kurosaki-Ichigo wrote:
Torrents are very good but the problem with them is that they are not "populor" enough.

What makes something popular "enough" for you? I mean on a niche type of show like anime, on the popular series, I can see upwards of 2000 clients and often over 500 seeders. Not to mention torrenting is hugely popular all over Western Europe and Asia, closesly followed by North America.

Also, it still doesn't make my statement that torrents > direct download invalid. Hell, all it takes is 1 or 2 seeders and a few clients, and you can still get a file.



Some files under torrents dont even have 2 seeders. They are popular for "popular" stuff. But what if you wanted to download anyold thing ? Youd have to go and direct download it.
xframe
roninmedia wrote:
Torrents were built for swarm downloads. Your site will be good for people who are too lazy to go around searching for torrent on individual fansubs sites.

IRC is the best way to get anime. Wink


IRC is messy, virus prone and hard to use when you first start. I find torrents alot easier.
Dark_Tiger
xframe wrote:
roninmedia wrote:
Torrents were built for swarm downloads. Your site will be good for people who are too lazy to go around searching for torrent on individual fansubs sites.

IRC is the best way to get anime. Wink


IRC is messy, virus prone and hard to use when you first start. I find torrents alot easier.

I find IRC a bit faster, if you know where what you're looking for is. Since there's no central clearinghouse for anything, it's a bugger to find what you want, let alone browse for random stuff.

Since I usually set up a pile of downloads, then go to bed, bittorrent is really a lot easier for me.

EDIT: If we're going to drift into a dicussion of bittorrent, the ethics of filesharing, and all that jazz, might I suggest somemod split this off into a new topic?
tsukiyuuki
Dark_Tiger wrote:


EDIT: If we're going to drift into a dicussion of bittorrent, the ethics of filesharing, and all that jazz, might I suggest somemod split this off into a new topic?


I agree. Any mods out there reading this? You may want to merge this, lock it, or rename it.
dzign
I like your site layout. It's neat and tidy. Keep it up. Just do whatever you believe is right and good Smile
Raijenki
Fansubbing isn't legal.
There was a Convention in Paris, to talk about the copyright.

There, was defined that:
If a thing is licensed in a country, that will be licensed in anothers country of the Paris's Convention.
Well, just google for it.
tsukiyuuki
Raijenki wrote:
Fansubbing isn't legal.
There was a Convention in Paris, to talk about the copyright.

There, was defined that:
If a thing is licensed in a country, that will be licensed in anothers country of the Paris's Convention.
Well, just google for it.


The legality of fansubs isn't really in question here, although I know where you're coming from, I think (the line on the site that says not to download if it's licensed, right?). The thing is, different countries have different copyright laws, so if someone is living in one of those countries, it could technically be legal for them to download fansubs.

The copyright law that you're talking about here (where something that is copyrighted anywhere is treated as if it was copyrighted in the country) is a law that is specifically French. It doesn't apply in any other countries, unless that country has instituted their own version of that law.
Dark_Tiger
tsukiyuuki wrote:
Raijenki wrote:
Fansubbing isn't legal.
There was a Convention in Paris, to talk about the copyright.

There, was defined that:
If a thing is licensed in a country, that will be licensed in anothers country of the Paris's Convention.
Well, just google for it.


The legality of fansubs isn't really in question here, although I know where you're coming from, I think (the line on the site that says not to download if it's licensed, right?). The thing is, different countries have different copyright laws, so if someone is living in one of those countries, it could technically be legal for them to download fansubs.

The copyright law that you're talking about here (where something that is copyrighted anywhere is treated as if it was copyrighted in the country) is a law that is specifically French. It doesn't apply in any other countries, unless that country has instituted their own version of that law.

Copyright law is... complicated.

As I understand it, and I'm not a lawyer, the US (and I believe the UK and Canada) reconises forgien copyright as legitmiate within the bounds of the US. So in theory, fansubs (and AMVs, and even cosplay) are all illegal.

Now the fun part: US copyright law requires the copyright holder to defens their copyright, I.E. sue the pants off of anyone violiating it. Since there isn't anyone to do the suing, and proving damages even if there were would be difficult, fansubs are de facto allowed.

In practice, it gets more complicated. Most of the Japanese and US anime firms reconize that fansubs help, not hurt, sales of their products. There is an unwritten "cease-fire" in place, wherein unlicensed anime fansubbers are not hunted down with bloodhounds provided the fansubs go away when a licensing agreement is announced.A fansubber that is feeling very brave might even push it as far as until a US release date is announced.

All this is fiddle-faddle however. Fansubs are avialable unless there is a way to get offical DVDs.
Jeyon
Of course it's better to update frequently. Very Happy Because, they're too little things inside there. And currently, i'm using that web to download Tsubasa chronicle 2nd series Laughing . I'm looking forwards towards this. Wink

However, Gud Luck! Razz
AnimePSP
Good Luck. Its tough to start anime web sites especially torrent sites as was previously mentioned because you need lots of seeders. I too am starting a site but with dirvct downnloads of anime transcoded to psp mp4 format.
Scaramanga
Dark_Tiger wrote:
tsukiyuuki wrote:
Raijenki wrote:
Fansubbing isn't legal.
There was a Convention in Paris, to talk about the copyright.

There, was defined that:
If a thing is licensed in a country, that will be licensed in anothers country of the Paris's Convention.
Well, just google for it.


The legality of fansubs isn't really in question here, although I know where you're coming from, I think (the line on the site that says not to download if it's licensed, right?). The thing is, different countries have different copyright laws, so if someone is living in one of those countries, it could technically be legal for them to download fansubs.

The copyright law that you're talking about here (where something that is copyrighted anywhere is treated as if it was copyrighted in the country) is a law that is specifically French. It doesn't apply in any other countries, unless that country has instituted their own version of that law.

Copyright law is... complicated.

As I understand it, and I'm not a lawyer, the US (and I believe the UK and Canada) reconises forgien copyright as legitmiate within the bounds of the US. So in theory, fansubs (and AMVs, and even cosplay) are all illegal.

Now the fun part: US copyright law requires the copyright holder to defens their copyright, I.E. sue the pants off of anyone violiating it. Since there isn't anyone to do the suing, and proving damages even if there were would be difficult, fansubs are de facto allowed.

In practice, it gets more complicated. Most of the Japanese and US anime firms reconize that fansubs help, not hurt, sales of their products. There is an unwritten "cease-fire" in place, wherein unlicensed anime fansubbers are not hunted down with bloodhounds provided the fansubs go away when a licensing agreement is announced.A fansubber that is feeling very brave might even push it as far as until a US release date is announced.

All this is fiddle-faddle however. Fansubs are avialable unless there is a way to get offical DVDs.

This is absolutely true, and is the way of international copyright law.

The thing is culturally, Japan has for a long time taken the position of 'looking the other way' when it comes to fan properties (i.e. fansubs, doujinshi, et al.) I think the largest reason for which has been that fan products tend to help an industry rather than hurt it (even if said fan work has copyrighted characters engaging in questionable acts.)

I disagree with the assertation that US anime companies have coem to the realization that fansubs help their industry (unless you mean fansubs of unlicensed properties.) I mean they are certainly a way to gauge a shows potential popularity, and therefore profit. But I don't think they are embraced wholesale by the US anime industry yet. Nor do I really blame them. It's such a small industry here (compared to things like mainstream cinema/DVDs and video games) that it's hard to compete in the market, and let's face it, fansubs ARE a form of competition.
Dark_Tiger
Scaramanga wrote:
Dark_Tiger wrote:
A bunch of stuff with poor spelling that you can just scroll up to read.

This is absolutely true, and is the way of international copyright law.

The thing is culturally, Japan has for a long time taken the position of 'looking the other way' when it comes to fan properties (i.e. fansubs, doujinshi, et al.) I think the largest reason for which has been that fan products tend to help an industry rather than hurt it (even if said fan work has copyrighted characters engaging in questionable acts.)

I disagree with the assertation that US anime companies have coem to the realization that fansubs help their industry (unless you mean fansubs of unlicensed properties.) I mean they are certainly a way to gauge a shows potential popularity, and therefore profit. But I don't think they are embraced wholesale by the US anime industry yet. Nor do I really blame them. It's such a small industry here (compared to things like mainstream cinema/DVDs and video games) that it's hard to compete in the market, and let's face it, fansubs ARE a form of competition.


Actually, I did mean unlicensed, and to a lesser extent, unreleased, anime. Not only as a way to guage popularity, but also as a means of advertising the anime beforehand.

While anime is an industry, and doesn't bring in the gross revenue that say a feature movie does, it is important to note that it also has a much lower overhead.

Also of note is the fact that anime is such a small market share that you still see a large number of people in the industry being old school anime fans. As in, really old school. Back when the only option if you wanted anime in the US was to BUY fan sub VHS if you were lucky and watch it RAW (again buying bootleg tapes) if you weren't level old school. Most fansubs today are much nicer to the industry, at least what I generally term "ethical fansubbers" are. Bittorrent sites like scarywater and animesuki only improve industry/fan relations, with their popularity and their no distribution of licensed material policies.
Dragonfly-online
Wow, I just wanted to comment on how nice of a site this is... lots of ads but still a great design. Good Job
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