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Ethics and the Internet





scorpiosemotion
It seems that Ethics (morals) and the Internet have become seperated. I would like to here what others think of this.

I have personally ran into people who get on the internet and lie to make themselves be something that they are not. Would you do that to someone you met in real life? You rarely heard of scam artists back in the old days Wink now its a new scam everyother minute..
Vrythramax
I agree totally. I think the majority of the Internet is simply a way to fleece you from your hard earned $$$. Not to mention the porn sites Sad
scorpiosemotion
Vrythramax wrote:
I agree totally. I think the majority of the Internet is simply a way to fleece you from your hard earned $$$. Not to mention the porn sites Sad


You walk into a store though and they are designed to fleece you of your hard earned $ too... As for the porn sites what about the magazines? Maybe it's just that the internet brings everything closer to peoples fingertips??
CanadianGeek
scorpiosemotion wrote:
I have personally ran into people who get on the internet and lie to make themselves be something that they are not


Actually, I used to do that, to an extent. I told people my name was Scott Armstrong when really it's ******. However, when I started telling people my real name, I ran into one person who had a secret of her own to keep. I won't say what it is here because, it's a secret. But we both learned something from it and we're both better friends for it too, so it's hard to say which way is really better.

Edited by Vrythramax...please don't give out your name.
scorpiosemotion
CanadianGeek wrote:
scorpiosemotion wrote:
I have personally ran into people who get on the internet and lie to make themselves be something that they are not


Actually, I used to do that, to an extent. I told people my name was Scott Armstrong when really it's ******. However, when I started telling people my real name, I ran into one person who had a secret of her own to keep. I won't say what it is here because, it's a secret. But we both learned something from it and we're both better friends for it too, so it's hard to say which way is really better.

Edited by Vrythramax...please don't give out your name.


I wasn't really talking about lying about your name.. but that works too. I was talking about when people lie about status, their lives making people think they are something they aren't. Like I could tell you I am a 29 year old guy that has laid everyone in the town including the hot mom down the street, but it wouldn't be true....
HoboPelican
I don't know, do you think it is all that different on the net compared to real life? I'm probably being overly cynical, but I think people in lie in RL as much as they can get away with and use the same M.O. on the net. It's just a little easier to lie more here.

Some lie to enhance their status, some to hide their past, some just as a game. But with time, you can usually tell those who have a sense of honor and honesty from the posers. I don't think it's the net. I think it's the times.
insanesnoopy
Ethics haven't just started to degrade because of the internet. They have been degrading for a while, the internet makes it more global. Scams have been around forever, the internet simply offers a new vehicle. The majority of people out there are still very ethical. Ethics is just the business name for morals. Most people hold their morals as very high, it is just that the one scam artist that you meet seems to cloud your vision, and cause you to remember that one scam, compared to the millions of legitimate stuff that happens on the net.

Just harness control of your own ethics, and you will become a magnet for people just like you.

Cheers
sharp
All of your ID's, if you wanted people to know who you were then wouldn't you have created an id of your real name, and the profiles, do they give ALL of your real information?

On yahoo I have put this to the test, was a great little game for me [thats my view on yahoo, all jus a game and all the people in it too]. To tell people theres no way you can tell who is who and ect, I would go in a room, different name, font, and would go as far as changing the way I write, and the thought process so words are less familiar to who I am playing with. Change from different types of guys to girls and so on, I have provenm my point. Now lets not worry about some chats or forums... lets talk about the real life problem that is so very similar to this idea...

Padded bras= should be illegal, false advertising!
scorpiosemotion
sharp wrote:
All of your ID's, if you wanted people to know who you were then wouldn't you have created an id of your real name, and the profiles, do they give ALL of your real information?

On yahoo I have put this to the test, was a great little game for me [thats my view on yahoo, all jus a game and all the people in it too]. To tell people theres no way you can tell who is who and ect, I would go in a room, different name, font, and would go as far as changing the way I write, and the thought process so words are less familiar to who I am playing with. Change from different types of guys to girls and so on, I have provenm my point. Now lets not worry about some chats or forums... lets talk about the real life problem that is so very similar to this idea...

Padded bras= should be illegal, false advertising!



Ok, the original question I believe has gotten misconstrued... It's not about giving all of your information it is a question that incompasses everything to to do with morals. I see how hiding your complete identity is smart.. Lots of weirdos out there as a friend likes to remind me of frequently, but then again lying is immoral, so is some of the sicker things you can find out there that are illegal everywhere, I do not really think I need to give examples. I do completely agree with insanesnoopy that the internet makes the decline a lot more noticable...
Vrythramax
I thought about replying to this, and it slipped my mind. The morality involved, or the loss of it, by not giving out your full true name on the Internet is most certainly outwieghed by the consequences of the action. In this circumstance the end result could possibly be devastating. Imagine a young impressionable person who mistakenly gave out thier true name and age in an open forum or chatroom...they could become a target for any number of would be predators out there. The same goes for women of all ages....I do not mean that as a sexist remark....simply stating the facts as they stand now-a-days....not everyone you meet on the Internet is on the level or honest.

I would much rather read false information in a chatroom than read about a victim in the newspapers.
Lilystock
Well it's just so much easier to hide behind your computer, and to forget that the persons you are talking to at the other side of the web is just this : another person... On internet, sometime people tend to forget that the people reading you can also be hurt, and generally have feelings.
When you don't see them, you can just pretend that they don't exist.

On leasure time, I'm okay with it, after all it's nothing serious, or at least it shouldn't be.

But at work, I have to admit that I most often than not feel quite hurt but people insensitivity. They would just ignore you and so easely forget that you are waiting for a reply. What's strange is that in "normal life" they can be very polite person, they just think that on Internet, there is no need to be polite. I just don't understand why :-/
I guess, it has something to do will all this mass of informations and emails you receive everyday...
vashish87
Excuse me, but why the assumption that moral values have somehow "decayed" and that in the past we were much more "virtuous"? The inquisition was virtuous? The world wars were glorious?
benwhite
Seriously. It's easy to say things have gotten worse when they've become more obvious and apparent.

Unless we're talking about the fall of puritanical value system, which doesn't exactly jive with MTV. The world may be more connected, but it's the same planet. Each person has more access to more people, but we're all still human.
a.Bird
This may be way too far out on a limb but just for "what ifs" I'd like to present this: What if the internet is gateway for unethical ideas and actions because there are stronger repercussions in real life when doing immoral things. It's much easier to call a person a thief on the on internet and sit there as he may try his best to say something back with even more angst than it is to call someone a thief when he's standing right infront of you.
Soulfire
Yeah, the internet is scary. We have porn access at the click of a mouse, online predators all over preying on ususpecting teens, and so much propaganda it's hard to know what to believe anymore.
Vrythramax
No one is saying that the Internet is a "gateway" to any form of vice, nor is it [essentially] evil. But one must admit that it does make things which could be construed by some as evil, or at least persausive, a part of life (that many would not normally see), and just a mouse click away.

The question was raised about how much more ethic, or moral is society today as compared to the workings of say the Inquisition...time and knowlege has changed. The values, and in some cases supoerstitions, have faded to a dusty memory that is only brought up for the sake of arguement. No one can deny that the beliefs and actions of our distant fore-fathers (and mothers) were wrong, or at best...misguided. The point here is has the internet today had a hand at , at the very least, made us callous to the immorality that is so persausive in our societies today.
godam64
sometimes we have to lie on the internet. scammers and spammers are everywhere. sometimes criminals gather data informations and making planning on internet for their victims. so it'll depends on your own thinking and decide where you should be honest and where you should be lie on everything. so please have some fun on the net Laughing
Fanghai44
lie when ppl u dunno ask u stuff that u dont wanna answer...so its not like rly against ethics
darrenpaul
I think its alright for people to lie about their name, appearance etc when they first encounter people, until they feel comfortable.

I also, don't see why some sites are so adamant about real names been given out, look at any social networking sites, MySpace etc..they give out a heck of allot more info then just a simple first name.

Personally I think the net is great, fortunity I'm not plagued with offers for porn, make cash fast schemes or Viagra! Why only yesterday, I ordered a book for a college paper, from a little New Jersey bookstore. Without the Internet, it would have been close to impossible to get this book, due to its type, and lack of popularity. The Internet is a wonderful tool, its use however must be "contained." Wink
_-WU-_-TANG-_
It's crazy but that's just how people are these days. I don't even know how to explain it.
Vrythramax
Fanghai44 wrote:
lie when ppl u dunno ask u stuff that u dont wanna answer...so its not like rly against ethics


Not really sure that's english....is this what you hoped for?

I can speak gibberish also, but nobody wants to read it.
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