This post was for Christians, and you ruined it by posting anyways. For the person who asked if I cared about the opinions of non-believers, I don't. So, I give up on this post myself. Of course, this does not stop you from posting so go ahead.
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I just talk - person to person. I tell them of the miracles of God, how He can work in their lives, what He's done in my life, and usually recite John 3:16 because of it's impact.
John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son that whoever believes in him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
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| A few years ago, the Church officials decided on a new way to evangelise since non-believers had gotten a-hold on the old way. They looked through the Bible and found the way that Jesus used it Himself: Talk to the heart and not the brain, so that you can get them thinking about the way they have lived and not have to worry about them trying to oppose you. |
What Church are you refering to? If talking about the Catholics, the so called 'renovation', also on the matter of evangelisation, took place more than 50 years ago, so it's not that new 
I don't talk to strangers on the streets simply because I don't think it would make any effect. There are enough Jehova witnesses in my country to make everyone have enough of strange people talking about the Bible.
Instead, I have a very difficult task to talk with my friends about God. The most of my schoolmates are atheists and for some time they were going mad when they heard, for example, that I cannot meet them as I have something to do in my church. The easiest way to solve this problem would be just to leave them, but I like them very much anyway. I couldn't just come to such a person and say 'Jesus loves you', as after something like that they would hate the church even more. That's why at first I was just talking with them about the sense of life, the true love [cause as you know God is the essence of love] and the universe. The word God came much later.
No, I didn't convince them, but at least we could get known and accept one another's points of view. And I discovered that the way you call or imagine God is not as important as your attitude or aim of your life. Because everyone truly searching for the Truth, the Love or a right Way of life will finally find God at the end.
[One of those friends, who hated everything about the Church, told me that she would teach her children the Decalogue as it's the most fair and unversal law. That was a shock indeed 
]No, no; not the renovation, it's the newest change in evangalism (it's not just the Catholic church). Also, I am not talking about telling people thay are sinners and screaming in their face that they are going to Hell. I mean, I just go to events and meet people. I talk to them and earn some trust, make a conversation over the news and sports, etc. Then, I move into the supernatural side of talking and ask them something like "So uh, do you have a Christian background?" I am trying to convert the conversation, but not offend them or come across as a 'fanatic'.
Then, I talk to their concience by going through a few commandments: ever told a lie, ever stolen, ever committed adultery, ever used the LORD's name in vain? Then, if they say yes to the above, I tell them that by thier own admission they are a Lying, theiving, adultering blasphemer. It gets them thinking ad if left alone with their thoughts, it can change the way they think about their life.
Try it, I'm sure it will work (except for those stubborn few who can't get anything into their heads).
When I'm not strapping a bom... err, wait, word of mouth. Yes. | S3nd K3ys wrote: |
| When I'm not strapping a bom... err, wait, word of mouth. Yes. |
Hey read the title, this topic is for Christians. I don't have time for you stubborn atheists, and trying to make you see. | Soulfire wrote: |
I just talk - person to person. I tell them of the miracles of God, how He can work in their lives, what He's done in my life, and usually recite John 3:16 because of it's impact.
John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son that whoever believes in him shall not perish, but have eternal life. |
Since God is allmighty he can have as many sons as he wants. Another thing is that Jesus's suffering wasn't that bad comparing to some happening in the world these days.
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| S3nd K3ys wrote: | | When I'm not strapping a bom... err, wait, word of mouth. Yes. |
Hey read the title, this topic is for Christians. I don't have time for you stubborn atheists, and trying to make you see. |
Since when is it forbidden to post in any topic anyone want? 
Another thing is when its just for spam, but wouldn't you want to know the opinion of those so called stubborn atheists what would be effective on them? Prolly nothing but anyway. | thpn wrote: |
| and trying to make you see. |
Now you're getting the point.
But you're mistaken if you think I disbelieve or deny the existance of God. Just because I don't practice Christianity or Islam doesn't mean I'm an Athiest. 
I believe in God differently than you likely do, so don't pass judgement, and don't try to 'make me see'. I hate that crap.I use 50mg truth/hr by central line and syringe driver, but if they are on the move i usually give 100mg orally
this is called the internet and it is a place without borders you are posting on a public message board, so what exactly do you expect?
perhaps if you werent so high and mighty then you wouldnt get so much flak? oh yeah but that would be common sense
and anyway my mummy taught me to never take dogma from strangers...
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| I give up, you guys suck. This post was for Christians adn you once again ruined something for us...what a suprise. Well, have fun burning in hell. |
Great. Now we're condemmed to hell. How Christain of you. I saw a good Ghandi quote today:
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I like your Christ. I do Not Like Your Christians.
Your Christians are so Unlike Your Christ. |
| mgumn wrote: |
I saw a good Ghandi quote today:
| Quote: | I like your Christ. I do Not Like Your Christians.
Your Christians are so Unlike Your Christ. |
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That's so true. I should put that in my sig. | mgumn wrote: |
I saw a good Ghandi quote today:
| Quote: | I like your Christ. I do Not Like Your Christians.
Your Christians are so Unlike Your Christ. |
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Nice one, althou my favourite is:
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| Its not God that i hate its his fanclub i can't stand. |
| Animal wrote: |
Just because people in a discussion you started do not agree with you does not give you the right to close the topic, or more importantly, tell the moderators what to do. I've read through the topic and dealt with any posts I feel are in breach of the rules and have no decency. Other than that, it seems that this is a fair, balanced argument and you have no grounds to demand that it be closed.
Please do not edit your topics and demand they are closed again - if you feel that you have a genuine reason for a topic to be closed or moved, please PM a moderator. Do NOT edit this comment out. |
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| Animal wrote: | Just because people in a discussion you started do not agree with you does not give you the right to close the topic, or more importantly, tell the moderators what to do. I've read through the topic and dealt with any posts I feel are in breach of the rules and have no decency. Other than that, it seems that this is a fair, balanced argument and you have no grounds to demand that it be closed.
Please do not edit your topics and demand they are closed again - if you feel that you have a genuine reason for a topic to be closed or moved, please PM a moderator. Do NOT edit this comment out. |
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That was not like this, I simply gave up on my topic; you all can still post about it, I don't really care. I had asked him to close that topic so that is why he posted that.
And you are all wrong, I never said I was a Christian. | thpn wrote: |
| And you are all wrong, I never said I was a Christian. |
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My Labels:
CHRISTIAN---->CATHOLIC---->AMERICAN---->TIGER---->CRUSADER---->DAIGLE
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the first quote is from here, second one is from here
or this one from here
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| I believe in the things I do because that is what I have learned by praying and reading scripture. I follow what the Catholic Church believes as a Protestant follows their church's beliefs. For some, the beliefs have been passed down through thier families and they believe that because their brother, sisiter, mother, and father believes that also. |
or your picture.I mean this: I call myself a Christian, but I'm not. I've tried to act like one, can't do it. So all of those links you've just shown, aren't true. As for my picture, I believe in Christ and everything you've said...but I'm no Christian.
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| I mean this: I call myself a Christian, but I'm not. I've tried to act like one, can't do it. So all of those links you've just shown, aren't true. As for my picture, I believe in Christ and everything you've said...but I'm no Christian. |
so first (in other threads) you say you are a christian, and now in your previous post in this thread you say "I never said I was a Christian", and now you say you call yourself a Christian, but you're not. Does that make sense in your head, cause it doesn't in mine.
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| So all of those links you've just shown, aren't true. |
meaning you were lying back then and are being truthful now, or you've changed from those previous posts to the rather confusing place you're at now?
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| I believe in Christ and everything you've said...but I'm no Christian. |
everything I've said pertaining to what? and where did it say it?
Maybe an explaination of your definition of Christian and how you don't meet that definition would be helpful.I try to use the same things that you do, thpn. I love talking to strangers, because you get to see the great uniquness in all of God's children. It is a great way to go about it, because you get the best of both worlds. You make a new friend and have tried your best to bring them towards your way of life, so you have something alike already!
P.S. thpn has cracked under the pressure and asked to be deleted from the forums, you can see for yourself on the "Request an Account Change" forum
God bless,
pampoon
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| Since God is allmighty he can have as many sons as he wants. Another thing is that Jesus's suffering wasn't that bad comparing to some happening in the world these days. |
He could, but He doesn't. God had one begotten Son to die for our mistakes. And his suffering wasn't that bad? Perhaps you should pick up your Bible, or better yet watch Passion of the Christ which shows the horrible scourging Jesus endured, the crown of thorns being beaten into His head, the crucifixion. Did you know that to crucify someone was so horrible that a new word was created? Excruciating, meaning "out of the cross" or similar.
And I'm not saying that Passion of the Christ is an accurate picture, but it's a good likeness I'm sure. | thpn wrote: |
| This post was for Christians, and you ruined it by posting anyways. For the person who asked if I cared about the opinions of non-believers, I don't. So, I give up on this post myself. Of course, this does not stop you from posting so go ahead. |
are you a christian you have a cross in your picture?
no i'm kidding man.
Hey look what's written in your signature! | loyal wrote: |
| thpn wrote: | | This post was for Christians, and you ruined it by posting anyways. For the person who asked if I cared about the opinions of non-believers, I don't. So, I give up on this post myself. Of course, this does not stop you from posting so go ahead. |
are you a christian you have a cross in your picture?
no i'm kidding man.
Hey look what's written in your signature! |
Come on guys, quit giving him a hard time. Sure, he had a little break-down but who here hasn't? Besides, he left this forum already. There's no point in continuing to torment him.
Reply what you please, but I won't fight back. I do not believe in fighting, ecspecially over the internet . I mean, what good does it do 
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| Quote: | | Since God is allmighty he can have as many sons as he wants. Another thing is that Jesus's suffering wasn't that bad comparing to some happening in the world these days. |
He could, but He doesn't. God had one begotten Son to die for our mistakes. And his suffering wasn't that bad? Perhaps you should pick up your Bible, or better yet watch Passion of the Christ which shows the horrible scourging Jesus endured, the crown of thorns being beaten into His head, the crucifixion. Did you know that to crucify someone was so horrible that a new word was created? Excruciating, meaning "out of the cross" or similar.
And I'm not saying that Passion of the Christ is an accurate picture, but it's a good likeness I'm sure. |
If he doesn't want another son its his problem. Anyway i said that Jesus's suffering wasn't that bad COMPARING to some. I didn't say that it wasn't bad, but believe me there are people suffering worse in today's world, and whats more they are suffering for far longer period of time. 
is it just me or did he kinda really snap out of nowhere? maybe I'm missing something.
| pampoon wrote: |
Come on guys, quit giving him a hard time. Sure, he had a little break-down but who here hasn't? Besides, he left this forum already. There's no point in continuing to torment him.
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he's gone?!
I PMed him. Awww shucks............ | pampoon wrote: |
Come on guys, quit giving him a hard time. Sure, he had a little break-down but who here hasn't? Besides, he left this forum already. There's no point in continuing to torment him.
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he's gone?!
I PMed him. Awww shucks............ | pampoon wrote: |
I try to use the same things that you do, thpn. I love talking to strangers, because you get to see the great uniquness in all of God's children. It is a great way to go about it, because you get the best of both worlds. You make a new friend and have tried your best to bring them towards your way of life, so you have something alike already!
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i want to make sure I understand this right. Starting a conversation with a stranger just to maniulate it to the point of getting them to admit they're a "Lying, theiving, adultering blasphemer" and then leaving them to thier own thoughts is your idea of trying your best to bring them toward your way of life? I'm also confused as to how that would qualify as having something alike, but thats more of an aside. Do you see that type of method backed by the Bible?
Also I think our definition of friendship is drastically different. | a_dubDesign wrote: |
i want to make sure I understand this right. Starting a conversation with a stranger just to maniulate it to the point of getting them to admit they're a "Lying, theiving, adultering blasphemer" and then leaving them to thier own thoughts is your idea of trying your best to bring them toward your way of life? I'm also confused as to how that would qualify as having something alike, but thats more of an aside. Do you see that type of method backed by the Bible? |
Well, I am sorry for confusing you. Thpn didn't include all of the way I use his form of witnessing. I begin the way he does, but after I have left them to their thoughts overnight, I talk to them again. Most of the time, they have had some change in them that makes them realize that according to the Ten Commandments they are sinners and if they are judged by God according to them also, they will spend eternity in Hell.
It is fine if you do not believe me, I am not here to try to change a nation...or a forum. I am simply stating the methods I use...since that is what this topic was about .
P.S. All beliefs expressed in the above post represent what I think about the Bible, God, and His teaching.
God bless,
Pampoon | thpn wrote: |
| This post was for Christians, and you ruined it by posting anyways. For the person who asked if I cared about the opinions of non-believers, I don't. So, I give up on this post myself. Of course, this does not stop you from posting so go ahead. |
if you are not a christian , why are you bothering about their methods?
dou you want to use same methods ? | pampoon wrote: |
| but after I have left them to their thoughts overnight, I talk to them again. |
how do you go about finding strangers again the next day? Or a week later, or a year later?
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| Most of the time, they have had some change in them that makes them realize that according to the Ten Commandments they are sinners and if they are judged by God according to them also, they will spend eternity in Hell. |
so its a fear based conversion. You get them to admit they've messed up, and then tell them they are gonna burn in hell for eternity unless they [insert religious cliche here], and you see that as being a biblical form of evangelism? Where do you see that in there? I can see some parallels with the Old Testament prophets, but that has nothing to do with evangelism since they were people called to call out all the crap the nation of Israel (the church) was doing, or more correctly weren't doing. | a_dubDesign wrote: |
| pampoon wrote: | | but after I have left them to their thoughts overnight, I talk to them again. |
how do you go about finding strangers again the next day? Or a week later, or a year later? |
duuuuuh he kidnaps them!
