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Have you seen, what the bleep do we know?

 


phinguyen
There is a great great "special interest" film you guys can go rent at block buster, its a documentary on our universe, the energies that surround us and the creations of the world. Throughout the movie they interview all kinds of world renowned scientists that have spent thier lives studying creationism and evolution and reletivity etc etc.

the movie is called "What the Bleep? Down the rabbit hole" also "What the Bleep do we know"

a great watch, it'll take you a couple of days on "Down the rabbit hole" cauz the movie is a whopping four discs, and doing it all in one sitting will met yer mind sending it into crazy never ending loop of ideas =P

anyways, check that out, its well worth the rental money.
loyal
what does the movie conclude?

May God bless you.
Kaneda
Guess I'll provide a contrasting opinion. Smile

I sat through a market screening of "What the Bleep Do We Know" at the Berlin film festival, not knowing what I was going to see, other than it supposedly being about quantum mechanics.

It's one of 2 films (out of around 800) that I've given a 1/10 rating on the IMDb over the past ten or so years (the other being "Baltic Storm"). Even "Loose Change" got a 2, because while it's a dangerous piece of propaganda, it's still a well-executed study piece in how to misinform. Back to "What the Bleep"...

The film bored me to the brink of falling asleep; the production design and graphics were all over the place; Marlee Matlin delivered her most awful performance ever, but worst of all...

The content is complete and utter nonsense. It completely misinterprets quantum mechanics, and adds a plethora of pseudoscience, in order to justify what is really a new age religion (didn't know that last part when I walked in to see it).

Most of the scientists and experts interviewed during the course of the film have nothing to do with the field they're talking about (those who are actually scientists, that is). If they do, they generally lie in disagreement with the rest of the scientific community, while the film asserts that they're simply telling what every scientist knows.

The one person who doesn't fit in with this crowd, David Albert, was interviewed for four hours about the general ideas of quantum mechanics, then cut and pasted into the film to appear to agree with the rest of the silly bunch. After the premiere he went on record saying he was "outraged at the final result".

Anyway, it's nice that this film tells people to change their own life if they aren't happy with it. What's not nice is that it tells them to do it by "thinking positively", promising that they'll then be able to bend reality (a la Neo in the Matrix), literally walk on water etc. It even goes to great lengths showing them that this is scientifically proven to be possible, when it's clearly not. Yes, we all create our own reality, but not in the way this film wants its viewers to think.

Not to mention the fact that it's funded by - and based on the "teachings" of - a 35000 year old warrior from Atlantis (or thereabouts) who's now being channeled by a woman in the state of Washington... Laughing

More info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_the_Bleep_Do_We_Know!%3F

Oh, and you can watch the whole film for free and make up your own mind:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1022317287422673112&q=what+the+bleep

But don't do it without reading at the very least the wikipedia article Razz
Bikerman
Kaneda wrote:
Guess I'll provide a contrasting opinion. Smile
...
It's one of 2 films (out of around 800) that I've given a 1/10 rating on the IMDb over the past ten or so years (the other being "Baltic Storm"). Even "Loose Change" got a 2, because while it's a dangerous piece of propaganda, it's still a well-executed study piece in how to misinform. Back to "What the Bleep"...

Hi Kaneda,
co-incidence bumping into you here on (for me) foreign ground.
I have to say that I agree with your summary and advice on this matter and would say that your posting is a good piece of work. We will probably never agree on certain issues, but on this one we see things the same.

Regards
Chris.
Kaneda
Bikerman wrote:
Hi Kaneda,
co-incidence bumping into you here on (for me) foreign ground.
I have to say that I agree with your summary and advice on this matter and would say that your posting is a good piece of work. We will probably never agree on certain issues, but on this one we see things the same.


Thanks Bikerman. Smile Of course there'll be issues we won't agree on - as there should be. But "certain issues"? Smile Anything in particular? (PM if it's off topic Wink)

On topic - before I get accused of being a "closeminded scientist type", I'd better put my opinion in context. Yes, I'm an agnostic "apathetic" atheist. I also have a relatively solid scientific and academic background. But I don't search for answers to the questions this film tries to address in science. Science, culture/art and experience (and, to some, religion) can inform us to find our own answers to those questions and inspire us in this search. None of them are authoritative on the question of "the meaning of life".

Science least of all. Knowing that thoughts, feelings and emotions are a matter of electric impulses and neurochemicals in my brain doesn't change a thing about my life. Hearing that love is merely an evolutionary result of brain circuits originally meant to make us care for our offspring with the objective of "keeping the species going"... Does that change my experience of love? Not in the slightest. Does knowledge of aerodynamics and the effects of adrenaline, noradrenaline, cortisol etc. inform the thrill of riding my motorcycle? Nope. I could (and can) live quite happily without science explaining these things. Does science tell me how to live a happy life? Far from it.

Which is my main issue with this film. I don't care that it isn't scientific - if it would only be honest about it. Instead, it's trying to give a subjective opinion about life and the world objective truth value, by way of science's supposed "authority". I don't subscribe to authoritative myths - which is why I don't care for religion either, and can get quite hostile towards "self help" people who try to sell their approach to various aspects of life as a miracle cure for everyone - in books, film, seminars, cults etc. - I've even seen such on a smaller scale on these forums Wink
Bookface
I feel like watching this movie will make my brain cry.
pulldownthesky
Bookface wrote:
I feel like watching this movie will make my brain cry.




It will. Mine didn't stop crying for hours after I was exposed to that steaming pile they call a "documentary"
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