Saw this at LGF... sure looks Photoshopped to me. What the hell are they gaining by doing something like that?
Smoke billows from burning buildings destroyed during an overnight Israeli air raid on Beirut's suburbs August 5, 2006. Many buildings were flattened during the attack. REUTERS/Adnan Hajj
Source (Yahoo News/Reuters)
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Saw this at ...sure looks Photoshopped to me. What the hell are they gaining by doing something like that?
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Looks highly suspect, doesn't it. Do you have a link to Reuters that actual shows the pic? The Yahoo link gave errors and the reuters link is only text.
I guess I would have to see the pics on a legit site to even worry about it.Reuters has sent out a picture kill on the photo, with the real photo (read: a different photo) attached:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/060806/ids_photos_wl/r1119244085.jpg
That's the third picture kill I remember seeing in the past couple of weeks, although I can't remember the reason for the others (they all had to do with Lebanon, though). But as one of those blogs linked says, let's not start going wild with Loose Change-ism.
EDIT: Oh, reason given:
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| PICTURE KILL FOR LBN20 TRANSMITTED AT APPROXIMATELY 1408GMT ON AUGUST 5, 2006. PHOTO EDITING SOFTWARE WAS IMPROPERLY USED ON THIS IMAGE. A CORRECTED VERSION WILL IMMEDIATELY FOLLOW THIS ADVISORY. PLEASE REMOVE THE IMAGE FROM YOUR SYSTEMS. WE ARE SORRY FOR ANY INCONVENIENCE. |
Last edited by Kaneda on Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:15 am; edited 2 times in total ... so they got someone to fix it up a little. i bet it's still a fake
They said on TV last night that Reuters had SIX HUNDRED photos possibly chopped by the same guy, a Lebanese citizen who's obviously hell-bent on spreading the same lies that are spreading around here.
Six hundred chops. 
I thought Dan Blather was stupid.
It all fits in with the lies about the civilian deaths in Qana and some other places where deaths were exagerated between 50 and 100%.
Luckely, there's enough tech savvy people out there that can spot and expose these blatent lies. Still makes you wonder how many haven't been caught. Maybe, just MAYBE, it was done intentionally badly by reuters, so as to make the lebanese look bad.
of course, this is all conspiracy theory. Probably it was just reuters sensationalising so as to make buisiness.
This still doesn't make this war ok, it's just people making a mess of it.
S3nd K3ys, don't call anything anyone a liar unless you can prove it. it's called libel 
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Maybe, just MAYBE, it was done intentionally badly by reuters, so as to make the lebanese look bad.
of course, this is all conspiracy theory. Probably it was just reuters sensationalising so as to make buisiness. |
Sure, and why exactly would a well-known company risk their reputation by doing something this stupid to make lebanese look bad. Reuters isn't exactly a senzationalising company either. They just provide photographs and became victimized by their photographer/photoshopper. I can imagine that it wasn't discovered earlier as hundreds of photo's pass through there every day. You can't expect them to go over all that stuff with a magnifying glass. | bogger wrote: |
| Maybe, just MAYBE, it was done intentionally badly by reuters, so as to make the lebanese look bad. |
Maybe not.
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| of course, this is all conspiracy theory. Probably it was just reuters sensationalising so as to make buisiness. |
Yeah, because it worked out so well with Dan Blather and SEE B.S. didn't it?
People don't like being lied to by the press.
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This still doesn't make this war ok, it's just people making a mess of it. |
The only thing that will make the war OK is the end of it. And it's cleaning up a mess, not making one.
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| S3nd K3ys, don't call anything anyone a liar unless you can prove it. it's called libel |
You need to brush up on your lawyer skills. In order for libel to be prosocutable, you must 'damage' that person's reputation. Considering the reputations of people here are not at risk, well, good luck with that. I would have to agree with you actually Code of ruin
. I was just theorising there.
however s3nd k3ys:
| S3nd K3ys wrote: |
| You need to brush up on your lawyer skills. In order for libel to be prosocutable, you must 'damage' that person's reputation. Considering the reputations of people here are not at risk, well, good luck with that. |
It can still be libelious, even if they're not here, for their reputation can be tarnished more effectively by gossip behind their backs, than by a page 1 exclusive
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| People don't like being lied to by the press. |
and yet it happens every day, with us still buying the same papers, changing nothing , I don't think anyone is going to boycott Reuters for this, so how could it damage them, unless it's done very often? | bogger wrote: |
and yet it happens every day, with us still buying the same papers, changing nothing , I don't think anyone is going to boycott Reuters for this, so how could it damage them, unless it's done very often? |
I don't know about YOU, but I will never give credance to ANYTHING Reuters reports on ever again. They will be dismissed just as Dan Blather was. | S3nd K3ys wrote: |
| I don't know about YOU, but I will never give credance to ANYTHING Reuters reports on ever again. They will be dismissed just as Dan Blather was. |
I really don't see how this would help preventing people from submitting fake photo's. Reuters is a generally respected company and like all companies things happen occasionally that shouldn't happen. Reuters is just as much victimized by this man as the readers of the different newspapers. Just because I get facts wrong sometimes doesn't mean my family never believes me again. I think it is a bit narrow-minded to boycott Reuters just because of some minor accident. It isn't exactly like they are still claiming the photograph to be real. They admitted it is fake and make it absolutely clear to everyone. To me that makes the impression of a company that still cares about quality and has the guts to step forward and say: Sorry, we were wrong!I think, code, that he was just saying that to provoke me Not at all bogger. I just think people WILL stop using Reuters as reliably as they did before this all came out. I KNOW I will be ignoring them from now on. There's plenty more fish in the sea.
Did you see the photo? If the crew at Reuters did NOT see the photo, I could understand, but I'm sure they are the ones that posted it. And it's an obvious fake for even an untrained eye.
I've a feeling (considering Reuter's continual bias and how quickly they pounced in the over-exagerated civilian deaths in Qana) that Reuters knew about this and published it anyway.
I think that we better take everything that s3nd k3ys says with a pinch of salt considering his bias, what with his profile picture until recently being:
and his "location" being: Defending Israels right to exist.
Tbh, I didn't really notice, as with most pictures, i just glanced at it, and read the caption.
| S3nd K3ys wrote: |
| I've a feeling (considering Reuter's continual bias and how quickly they pounced in the over-exagerated civilian deaths in Qana) that Reuters knew about this and published it anyway. |
I think you'll find reuters "pounce" on everything, that's their job, anyone can report, but reuters are always the 1st to do it | S3nd K3ys wrote: |
| I've a feeling (considering Reuter's continual bias and how quickly they pounced in the over-exagerated civilian deaths in Qana) that Reuters knew about this and published it anyway. |
Unless you know the exact dead/injured rate, you cannot claim others figures to be exagerated. They provide an estimate or a predicted total and/or current count.
Back to the topic (Reuters Photoshopping Beirut pics NOT discussion on the actual war, bias of certain members etc), we now know that the image was photoshopped(edited), weve moved on slightly to how this situation has/will affect(ed) the repuation of Reuters (allowed as still rather on topic and discussion on this has so far been good).
I don't think this will have a very large affect on Reuters. People that use it as a source may be a bit more wearry of its images relating to the middle east but other than that, the content all still seems to be valid and other images are unlikely to have been changed in any other way than being touched up for clarity.Aye, 1 mess up shouldn't really be that grevious for such a well known company, I think that, surely the newspapers who used the photos are partly to blame as well, because they would have seen it photoshopped, right?
I'm working with photoshop for 4 years. Yeah, that picture is fake.
Just to let people know, It has been agreed that that photo is fake,
the topic has moved on, we're now considering the repurcussions
EDIT: Reopened.
bogger, yeah, you're right.
I should've actually moved it... 
EDIT: continue your discussion. http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110008766
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BY JAMES TARANTO
Tuesday, August 8, 2006 3:21 p.m. EDT
Jihadis Playing Possum
Back in May 2002, we noted that the Israel Defense Forces had provided a reconnaissance video showing a staged funeral of a Palestinian at the "refugee camp" in Jenin, supposedly the site of an Israeli massacre. As Ha'aretz reported at the time:
IDF field intelligence chief, Colonel Miri Eisen, told reporters that the film shows someone who is supposedly dead--and on the way to burial--falling off his stretcher and then running away.
The same scam seems to be popping up in Lebanon--quite literally. Look at this July 30 photo, shot by the Associated Press's Lefteris Pitarakis:
Plainly this scene was staged for the benefit of the cameras, though it is important to note we know of no evidence that the photographer was complicit in the staging. It is, however, a clear example of how terrorist groups use journalists to spread their propaganda. |
First Reuters got caught, now AP is faking photos of the so-called attrocities in Lebanon. Two of the more widely known news sources are no longer credible. Seriously, what do they hope to gain? They gotta know they're gonna get caught. Call me ignorant, if you want to, but could you please link me, or tell me of something that proves they're fake?
in fact, the thing you quote has a CORRECTION!
http://www.theaugeanstables.com/2006/08/06/post-on-washington-post-removed/print/
you must have seen that, therefore, i put foreward this statement, it is your credibility that I do not believe in
I could care less about what you think of MY credibliity. All I'm doing is sharing what I've found. Again, if somebody has issue with my post, tell it to the source, not the messanger. (Agreed that that was incorrect after reading the link. Thanks for pointing it out. But who could blame people for being skeptical? )
But on that note, more troubling news from Reuters...
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3256534,00.html
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Reuters employee issues 'Zionist pig' death threat
Worker suspended after telling American blogger: 'I look forward to day when you pigs get your throats cut'
Yaakov Lappin
A Reuters employee has been suspended after sending a death threat to an American blogger.
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Nope. No bias there. 
But wait, there's more!
Now the NY Times seems to be getting in on it. I knew it would just be a matter of time. Speaking of which, where's CBS in all this?
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2006/08/new-york-times-busted-in-hezbollah.html
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New York Times Busted in Hezbollah Photo Fraud!
** Dead Men Walking! **
** UPDATE: The New York Times makes a correction- details below.
From the New York Times photo essay by Tyler Hicks on July 27, 2006 comes this unbelievable fraud! |
I think that you'll find it's not the companies doing this, it's actually the reporters in there, hardly partisan, just sensationalist
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| Quote: | Reuters employee issues 'Zionist pig' death threat
Worker suspended after telling American blogger: 'I look forward to day when you pigs get your throats cut'
Yaakov Lappin
A Reuters employee has been suspended after sending a death threat to an American blogger.
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Nope. No bias there. |
of course, how could an israeli website be biased? it's unthinkable!?
And did it ever occur to you that something might have fallen on him while he was trying to help the people to safety? He could just have been concussed by that falling pole? (and i know this isn't the topic at hand, but why was an apartment block destroyed for anyway?) | bogger wrote: |
And did it ever occur to you that something might have fallen on him while he was trying to help the people to safety? He could just have been concussed by that falling pole? |
Now THAT'S entertainment! You can t script that kind of idiotic reply.
Honestly, did you look at the guy's pose? He should be a supermodel or in playgirl or something with THAT pose! 
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(and i know this isn't the topic at hand, but why was an apartment block destroyed for anyway?)
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Um, that's easy... because these cowardly terrorists are hiding there amung women and children because they're afraid to come out and fight face to face because they know they'll get their collective asses handed to them.their asses handed to them by a puppet state of america.
And I would think that it's plausible, no need to just go insult me.
I think what we have here, (imho) in s3nd k3ys is a person who enjoy jumping to conclusions, and has an strong "I'm right, you're stupid" attitude
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| their asses handed to them by a puppet state of america. |
It's ok, they're fighting a puppet state of Iran.
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| I think what we have here, (imho) in s3nd k3ys is a person who enjoy jumping to conclusions, and has an strong "I'm right, you're stupid" attitude |
Jumping to conclusions is fun and entertaining. And it brings out the best (and in your case) worst in people.
But it's still not as big a jump to a conclusion as you blindly accepting the false premise that hesbollah is morally correct in it's continued targeting and murdering of women and children for no reason. | S3nd K3ys wrote: |
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| Quote: | | I think what we have here, (imho) in s3nd k3ys is a person who enjoy jumping to conclusions, and has an strong "I'm right, you're stupid" attitude |
Jumping to conclusions is fun and entertaining. And it brings out the best (and in your case) worst in people. .... |
Bogger, as his post confirms, you've hit it on the head concerning Sendkeys. Usually it's best to ignore his blither unless you like banging your head against a door. He seems incapable of admitting he is wrong is is more interested in ranting than discussion. Blow him off once you've made you point. Like I'll ignore the worthless ramblings he'll respond to this post with.
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| S3nd K3ys wrote: | ....
| Quote: | | I think what we have here, (imho) in s3nd k3ys is a person who enjoy jumping to conclusions, and has an strong "I'm right, you're stupid" attitude |
Jumping to conclusions is fun and entertaining. And it brings out the best (and in your case) worst in people. .... |
Bogger, as his post confirms, you've hit it on the head concerning Sendkeys. Usually it's best to ignore his blither unless you like banging your head against a door. He seems incapable of admitting he is wrong is is more interested in ranting than discussion. Blow him off once you've made you point. Like I'll ignore the worthless ramblings he'll respond to this post with.
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That would be funny if it weren't for that fact that he's typically got a valid and often true point, (although the delivery more often than not leaves much to be desired. ) | Billy Hill wrote: |
| HoboPelican wrote: | | S3nd K3ys wrote: | ....
| Quote: | | I think what we have here, (imho) in s3nd k3ys is a person who enjoy jumping to conclusions, and has an strong "I'm right, you're stupid" attitude |
Jumping to conclusions is fun and entertaining. And it brings out the best (and in your case) worst in people. .... |
Bogger, as his post confirms, you've hit it on the head concerning Sendkeys. Usually it's best to ignore his blither unless you like banging your head against a door. He seems incapable of admitting he is wrong is is more interested in ranting than discussion. Blow him off once you've made you point. Like I'll ignore the worthless ramblings he'll respond to this post with.
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That would be funny if it weren't for that fact that he's typically got a valid and often true point, (although the delivery more often than not leaves much to be desired. ) |
Hobo doesn't like my approach so he tries to play like everything I say is a lie. 
Ultimate Rent-Free right thar.Well it's not surprising that the 'other side' is trying to level the playing field a little, since Israel-US has a heavy advantage in media reporting in the west anyway. Both US and its clients are masters in media control and propaganda, where news agencies happily accepts official press releases like news stories and publish them without discrimination. This can be seen all to often.
This does not justify doctoring of photos of course, but it is hardly something to be surprised about, nor to go for some self-rightous ranting about it happening. How many times has the Bush-administration been caught manipulating the truth to make some kind of shady point? I leave that to anyone to try to remember. And think about all the times they were not caught...
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Well it's not surprising that the 'other side' is trying to level the playing field a little, since Israel-US has a heavy advantage in media reporting in the west anyway. Both US and its clients are masters in media control and propaganda, where news agencies happily accepts official press releases like news stories and publish them without discrimination. This can be seen all to often.
This does not justify doctoring of photos of course, but it is hardly something to be surprised about, nor to go for some self-rightous ranting about it happening. How many times has the Bush-administration been caught manipulating the truth to make some kind of shady point? I leave that to anyone to try to remember. And think about all the times they were not caught... |
HEAR HEAR!
and s3nd k3ys, hobo isn't that far off the truth You guys really don’t know the US media……….
This is only disinformation by some conservative website.
