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This post might make people think but that is what it is all about:
I personally believe in God who is a word that I believe is a higher being. "God" is simply a word that people agreed to be a higher being. Now in truth I am a christian and the belief in jesus is the same way my belief is in god. I think that there is a higher power for many reasons. These reasons in my mind will still show the prospect of evolution. But at the same time will discourage agains I.D. (Intelligent Design)
There are moments in everybody's life where something good happens, when all odds are against it; while there are other moments when something bad happens when you think it is less likely. What does this mean? This simply means that you have done either something good or something incorrect to displease some higher being.
As far as evolution is conserned we see in everyday light that things evolve into different things while having parts of their ancestors within themselves. And as far as Intelligent design if everything is designed to be smart then why are there so many defects in life. For example the tail bone in the human body is a recessive allele which has no purpose in humans, while some people are born with a defect that makes their tail bone larger than others. This list can go on and on. And if you want I can make a list of those occurences.
Anyways I believe in a higher being because unanswered things always occur in nature, but they always occur with a some hidden purpose.
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There are no "higher beings" and no "Lower beings" there just life.
| nodarn wrote: | | There are moments in everybody's life where something good happens, when all odds are against it; while there are other moments when something bad happens when you think it is less likely. What does this mean? This simply means that you have done either something good or something incorrect to displease some higher being. |
Thats just coincinence, so basically you are saying that anything that has small odds to happen can happen only when i please/displease a higher power? Lol come on, when something has small chance to happen doesnt mean it will not happen, even without higher powers.  )
God is the High Being. This is because everything except God was created.
The universe had a big bang and so on.
nodarn, are you an active Christian?
Hi all!
To be honest, I can't say that I beleive or disbeleive in God or a higher being. But I think that all religeons are esentially worshiping the same "power".
I would say that if there was a high being, he would be a person, like you and me, only far more powerfull. I know that this raises a lot of questions, which is why I am undecided on the subject. But I do beleive that a person makes a his own decisions in life and if it is guided at all by a higher "being" then it is only very little.
I would say that a person's attatude and behavior generally dictates how well they do in life. Generally, if they are a chearful person, they tend to be more sucessful. And how good they are generally brings about their comupance.
This all probably sounds quite cheesy but there you go!
God is a remnant of an ancient human race that had more questions about the way the world worked than it had answers.
Saying that unlikely coincidences are an effect of god's will is akin to saying that god is a childish being who punishes when he is angry and rewards when he is happy. That logic suggests that god is more akin to what most people think of as the devil, tempting us with the prospect of a heaven, and then casting us down into hell for things like premarital sex.
There is no solid logical support for a god, though there is no way to 100% convince someone that he doesn't exist. Oddly enough, this small fact alone is enough for some people to throw in the face of any atheist, saying that we can't "prove it" so it must not be true.
In any case, now I'm rambling, so I'll end by saying that the idea of a god belittles the beauty and elegance of life on earth, and that we should look to ourselves to find a higher power, because it's not going to come from anywhere else.
taking about defects which was refered by the first author.. hey you haven't pointed any defects yet.. a human having tail bone or ones tail bone larger than other is not a defect, fish living in water is not a defect.. blindness is a defect, deafness is a defect.. but if there is something that you don't know why yet.. is not a defect.. please don't even consider thinking that.. jupiter doesn't have life in it so that is a defect.. or the other way around.. that.. earth is the one having life in it so it is a defect.. so please .. I think you need to rephrase your meaning of defect.. and to the orginial idea... yes I think God is the supreme soul.. and as said.. all relegions call the same God but in different names.. what do you gys.. say..
I do believe that there is a force that is pretty unknown. I have lived for more than two decades and there have been times when i genuinely required something but knew i was never going to make and out of nowhere i just get it.
Well, and the weird thing is it happened to me more than two times and when i try to think about it, it has shaped my life in the way it ought to be.
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We can but hope
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I personally believe in God who is a word that I believe is a higher being. "God" is simply a word that people agreed to be a higher being. Now in truth I am a christian and the belief in jesus is the same way my belief is in god. I think that there is a higher power for many reasons. These reasons in my mind will still show the prospect of evolution. But at the same time will discourage agains I.D. (Intelligent Design)
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Not sure I follow all of that but if you want to debate evolution vs creationism then I'll need to go and get an aspirin first
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There are moments in everybody's life where something good happens, when all odds are against it; while there are other moments when something bad happens when you think it is less likely. What does this mean? This simply means that you have done either something good or something incorrect to displease some higher being.
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So the infants killed in the Lebanon recently were extra naughty when inside their mother's womb perhaps ? Or do you subscribe to the former England manager's position that it must have been something in a past life that really cheesed off this 'higher being' ?
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As far as evolution is conserned we see in everyday light that things evolve into different things while having parts of their ancestors within themselves. And as far as Intelligent design if everything is designed to be smart then why are there so many defects in life. For example the tail bone in the human body is a recessive allele which has no purpose in humans, while some people are born with a defect that makes their tail bone larger than others. This list can go on and on. And if you want I can make a list of those occurences. |
No need - only the dishonest, terminally stupid and irrevocably fundamentalist hold to the creationist doctrine - I know, I have debated them in public arena, internet messageboards, private email and written publications, for years. Evolution is accepted by the vast majority of people, despite what the ID brigade say, and the notion that biologists and others have serious doubts about it is simply fantasy.
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Anyways I believe in a higher being because unanswered things always occur in nature, but they always occur with a some hidden purpose.
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Wheras I believe the opposite. The universe is probabilistic in nature and like all probability systems it produces seemingly significant results sometimes and obviously random results at other times. If the purpose is hidden then how do you discern it ? Surely the whole idea of a hidden purpose is self-contradictory since it cannot be hidden if you are aware of it? I would also argue that unanswered things do NOT always occur in nature - in fact almost never. The fact that the answer may not be obvious does not mean that there is not an answer...that is why scientists study for years and years to understand just one part of the universe...nobody said the rules would be simple, but rules there are.
regards
Chris.
The problem with beginning to answer this question is that people use answers that raise so many other questions. Evolution vs Creation for instance.
I think we do this because we are looking for some kind of evidence to pin our belief on. Religions across the globe have always been about explaining what we don't know. Science is another form of religion - not a religion itself, but another method for explaining the world we live in.
I don't know of any way of proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that one religion (or no religion) is true and the others aren't. However the one thing I do no accept is that all religions are headed in the same direction and will all find God in the end. Some of the beliefs are too diametrically opposed to be able to reconcile them into a God who accepts all of those "truths".
I do believe that there is one truth - one reality. I don't believe that man has all the answers as to what that is. So we all put our "faith" in something. Some put faith in a higher power. Some put faith in a benevolent universe. Some put faith in man's ability to discover all the answers if given enough time and resources. And some believe it is all chance.
I would like to pose one question to continue the challenge to think this issue through.
If there is no higher power, where do the "rules" come from?
By rules I mean:
Who decides how we decide what is good and bad
How does the universe continue to exist and not blow up again like it did to start off as in the Big Bang theory
Why does gravity exist
| nodarn wrote: | This post might make people think but that is what it is all about:
I personally believe in God who is a word that I believe is a higher being. |
Which is why there is a search function and why there is already such a topic. Please continue this discussion there.
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