http://oob.uk.to/watch.php?pick=463
He guys, thought id start a discussion see if we can get some ideas of how criss manages to pull off this illusion.
What do you think?
Slammer 
I thought it over but I've no idea, I'll come back when I think of how he did it.i have no idea 
JBs take on it?
A perspex platform underneath the waterline. I watched it fairly closely, but I only saw one person travel accross his path partly above the water, so I think a small gap was produced for this lady to swim through and disuade people from thinking this method. Now if he put his foot directly where her neck had just passed, I would have been impressed, but he stepped well over this point, to whee the perspex bridge may have continued.
Its a neat trick, but what I just said coupled with the completly underwhelmed people in the pool (I would be a little more gobsmaked and impressed if i was in that pool and believed it to be genuine) shows its a trick and nothing more
JB
i think he went on a trip to the himilayan mountains and stumbled upon a cave with a magic dwarf in it. he spoke to the dwarf and said, "i need something that will allow me to walk on water", so the dwarf went into his closet and pulled out a pair of shoes... but these were no regular pumas or nikes.. they were walking-on-water shoes.
really though: no idea
I was also comparing where people were walking afterwards. I don't think I saw anyone cross his path before or after, but I may be wrong.
One thing I know for sure: there is no such thing as magic 
Maybe it has somehting to do with his pants? It can be with his pants, he has it at anytime They are under his feets when he walk...
Even if it is his pants, what in someone pants could possibly allow them to walk on water?
that was quite amazing....we got some nice shots of the ladies! 
but seriously though i think its a fishing line he's walking on...makes the most sense to me but i'm not sure...i odnt see how it could be his pants; or it may be a VERY well hidden platform....nice though good link!! that looks like vegas, the swimming pool at the aladdin or somthing....i know for sure there should be way more people in that pool area.. all the people during that walk are actors...use of plexy glass and some stagging should pull off that trick... i was in vegas last week and i saw lance burton, went to his show. he did some mind boggling things that were physically impossible like make a corvette disappear. teleport, and make geese come out out the palm of his hands...even make the corvette fly around the stage...we all know this is impossible but damn did it look real...i was blown away....if anyone gets to see that show in vegas, it is well worth it...they must have spent millions to retrofit that theatre for tricks like that...
Honestly, I'd believe it to a point, Too bad I'm not the type to be impressed that way.
Obvious, There are many methods to achieve this. The first method is to film everything, From the lady underneath him to the stunned audience and then Getting Criss Angel to film the stunt in a Blue or Green Screen Set in which the Animators take over and merge the two scenes together to create this.
But because I have no clue who Criss is or if he some big shot, I'll take into consideration he may be small time, So he most likely either had a crane retain him while did the stunt and then got it CGI'd or he just had some sort of board to walk on and then had it removed in the Graphics Dept.
...Or the most logical explaination is, He actually walked on water... ahha.. the woman that walks past him in front is going inbetween something.... you can see her lining up and going thru it, ist just glass/plastic/what ever steps. BUT thats just ruining it, its allways fun to see something that looks good. The thing I still havent figured out is how this guy pulls a salt shaker thru the glass.... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6119531719408235115&q=japanese+magic This person has too much illusion.
I think he is liar...
There is always people acting along and playing a big part of most of his illusions. For example the one where he goes up to some (Random?????) shop and he goes inside and he puts some paper against the window and he puts his hand through the glass. The shopkeeper had a big part in that and the window was fixed for the trick earlier that day. You are able to buy that trick for like $100 someplaces. I know how he does his levitation and I have done it before but it was alot of money for the dvd and to create the gimmik. Anyone else here interested in magic?
| Saber wrote: |
| ahha.. the woman that walks past him in front is going inbetween something.... you can see her lining up and going thru it, ist just glass/plastic/what ever steps. BUT thats just ruining it, its allways fun to see something that looks good. The thing I still havent figured out is how this guy pulls a salt shaker thru the glass.... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6119531719408235115&q=japanese+magic |
Thats Cyril. He makes some great illusions but rarely shares them with anyone.cris angel is one of the best magicians i have ever seen but i hear that he uses fake audiences .
| mw91 wrote: |
| cris angel is one of the best magicians i have ever seen but i hear that he uses fake audiences . |
Sorry to break it to you but with fake audience like that anyone can be freakin Gandalf if they want. 
So why you think he is the best? 
Mindfreak isn't so much about fooling the people standing near him as much as it is about fooling the people at home. think about it, and watch some of his tricks closely. In some instances there is OBVIOUS computer generated effect.
There are two basic theories that can be applied to Cris Angel:
Theory 1: He uses fake audiences/set ups for most of his tricks that supposedly happen for random people and just does cheap parlor tricks for the real people.
Theory 2: He has sold his soul to the devil and thereby has been granted inhuman powers, but will be eternally damned.
Pick the one that suits you.
He's using theory one, but looks like the guy from theory 2.
lol, that is one of those illusions, it is similar to a flying illusion, but done in water.
Oh.. What a man....
Acutally I don't believe a magic. And I think it's impossible to happen it in real world. But I don't know how he could do it...
Just amazing... ^^
I think there were some tricks.. I can't find them out..
And.... It could be called "a great magic" before someone find out the secret..
Anyway, thank you for showing interesing movie
I have no answer to the question, but I find this rather amazing. It΄s fun to watch illusionists do their things, but annoying to not understand how they do it | milkmandan wrote: |
i think he went on a trip to the himilayan mountains and stumbled upon a cave with a magic dwarf in it. he spoke to the dwarf and said, "i need something that will allow me to walk on water", so the dwarf went into his closet and pulled out a pair of shoes... but these were no regular pumas or nikes.. they were walking-on-water shoes.
really though: no idea |
LMAO
I think it can be a submerse platform. Nobody walks through the line that he walks into. Okey, I may be wrong because I didn't saw the entire video. But it didn't convinced me. I'm way too skeptical to believe it! 
There's a couple of things that I can look at with this. The first thing that I'm thinking is that he's using clear stilts to walk on the bottom of the water with. It could be a very thin lining where he's walking on too, although I'm still not sure on this. The second thing that I'm thinking is that I wonder why it's not been done before in our history. I would have been impressed to read in my U.S. History book that everyone walked across the Atlantic Ocean to get to America instead of taking the Nina, the Pinta, and the Santa Maria. I'm sure there's a website out there that can explain it better for us.
Oh, this is a bit off-topic, but it looks like Bunny's evil plan is working, as I see 2 other people in this thread that have Bunny in their signatures. 
Thanks guys. (I seen Bunny on another forum and got his evil powers even better by bringing it to FriHost).
- Mike. theres a plexi glass walkway in the water. notice how no one swam INFRONT of him, just to the side or below.
That's crazy I've always been a big fan of the mindfreak. I haven't done magic in awhile and I think you just got me into doing magic tricks again. Thanks I could tell you one thing, the people shoulda been more amazed and/or scared. hmmm, how can there be some kind of lining, when he deliberately chucked he shoes off?
Arrghh, these kind of things bug me sooo much, you can never really know how they work
I saw one clip on the net with someone that walked through glass, not sure if it was the same guy as in this clip though... | Alpha Dude wrote: |
| hmmm, how can there be some kind of lining, when he deliberately chucked he shoes off? |
Did you watch it closely? He shook his shoe off right where small gap was and then he stepped over it. I would be impressed maybe if he stepped right where he shook his shoe off There really must be a platform below his feet. There is no way whatsoever that could be done otherwise without freezing the water and that is obviously not the case.
Yea
It doesn't take a genius to now how he does it. He doesn't need any special techniques because all of the audience is in on it. You can immediately tell by their reactions during the post interviews. If you actually saw someone walk on water before your eyes it would change your life. You would be awestruck dumbfounded and flocking to this person with your praise and also many would probably want him to help them with their problems( i.e youd see alot of crying going on.). On mindfreak the people afterwards are like "wow that was awesome", "It certainly was cool", "Chris Angel is a totally cool guy" stuff like that. Not the extraordinary reactions you would expect from people recently witnessing a miracle. I would think that the ability to walk on water would qualify you as more than a really cool guy. Everyone is in on it and its filmed. It is just about as magic as anything you see in a movie or TV show. Also, if Chris Angel has powers that would imply that others possess them as well. So all these other people stay in the shadows and allow one of them to make money by performing feats infront of normal people. I think they would have a bone to pick with someone who performs their art for the masses.
Every trick he does is even less amazing than ones done by real magicians because he does them for the camera with multiple takes and edited shots.
People please dont believe him
Hm......
I have no idea but I wish I could do that 
1) Criss Angel is an "illusionist", not a magician. There are no such things as magicians. Therefore, at least 90% of his tricks are mere illusions to the eye. The other 10% I do believe are used with fake audiences and some really nice editing skills on a computer. (I saw this episode where he made an elephant disappear. It's impossible to delete matter from existence completely, so the only way is to film the stunt very carefully and not film the part where they move the elephant off the set.)
2) As for this trick, I've heard of two possibilities. One is that on the heels of his feet he has some sort of floaters that are buoyant enough to carry his body weight over the water. The other is that there is some sort of invisible layer or platform he's walking along. Notice he goes in a straight line. Walking on water, eh?
*thinks*
It's Jesus..! Most of the things Criss Angel does like walking on water, levitation etc appear to be magic but are in fact TRICKS. These are all camera tricks and special effects. If you have seen any new hollywood movie like The Matrix and the like, you would know what I mean.
Having said that, I must say that some the things he does are real and can be termed as stunts. For example lying on a bed of nails etc. But these stunts don't involve supernatural phenomenon. These are scientific facts and anyone can do them.
I saw this trick,the people around him were clearly extra's,as for walking on the water, there was obviously some clear perspex below him,wether it was one long line or a few blocks,im not sure, but he was very careful where he was placing his feet as he walked across,like he was looking for the next block to step on to.
| ncwdavid wrote: |
| Saber wrote: | | ahha.. the woman that walks past him in front is going inbetween something.... you can see her lining up and going thru it, ist just glass/plastic/what ever steps. BUT thats just ruining it, its allways fun to see something that looks good. The thing I still havent figured out is how this guy pulls a salt shaker thru the glass.... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6119531719408235115&q=japanese+magic |
Thats Cyril. He makes some great illusions but rarely shares them with anyone. |
he certainly doing something with the shaker.. he's taking way to long to bring it through the table, and struggling with his hand way too much..
and with the coin, he was too particular about picking it from her hand, either he got two from her, or he had one already he had to match..it's a fact that he uses fake audiences most of the time. he said it himself.
I don't know about this trick, though I also bet on the platforms with gaps in-between for special effects.
If you've ever seen his levitation trick, though, this is one of those that he himself explained to the audience how he did it. search for it on youtube.
