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Brazil and Oil Independance

 


MrBaseball34
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2006-03-28-brazil-ethanol-cover_x.htm?POE=TECISVA

Brazil has dumped imported oil and reaping the benefits.

Why can't we all do the same?
Soulfire
Well, there's what - 10 cars in Brazil? You have to think that their fuel infrastructure system is very different than ours in that numbers are hardly comparable. Although I do agree - we need to start on something.
roach831
well we can because "The Man" Says so
Josso
Yeah it would have to work on a much bigger scale I suppose.
alkady
Well eventually you would have to import the oil again after your internal reserves are delepted. Oil isnt renewable and takes millions of years to create.
fribee
Brazil makes the most efforts to imply green fuel into their
country. They are already driving E85 and are completely
independant from black oil.

If you want to know, which effect is has on an economy to get
to this stage, only look at the development of their currency the
last 5 years. I wish I would have invested in the real....

Did you ever hear of the "flex-cars"? No? Here you know,
how much far of reality you are!

10 cars in Brazil? Maybe 10 car factories.....

Not to forget the history of the country: In the 2nd WW it was one
of the most inventive one. Once they have been out of fuel - like many
other countries this time - they immediately adde charcoal carburators
to their cars, so they still could drive!

Fribee
fribee
Brazil makes the most efforts to imply green fuel into their
country. They are already driving E 85 and are completely
independant from black oil. (Mixture of 85%Ethanol and 15% fuel)

If you want to know, which effect is has on an economy to get
to this stage, only look at the development of their currency the
last 5 years. I wish I would have invested in the real....

Did you ever hear of the "flex-cars"? No? Here you know,
how much far from reality you are! Maybe we will come to this point
in 20 years!

10 cars in Brazil? Maybe 10 car factories.....

Not to forget the history of the country: In the 2nd WW it was one
of the most inventive one. Once they have been out of fuel - like many
other countries this time - they immediately added charcoal carburators
to their cars, so they still could drive!

Fribee
FunFunkyFritz
I hear that Iceland are planning of doing a similar thing, but instead of ethanol they will use hydrogen (generated with energy from the hot springs).

Sweden is planning on replacing a substantial part of their fuel with ethanol produced from timber.

I think the world is taking steps toward leaving the oil & gas dependancy behind, at last!
You guys in the US needs to jump on the (electrical) bandwagon Smile
Ikthar
Soulfire wrote:
Well, there's what - 10 cars in Brazil?

No. In 1998, Sao Paulo alone had 4,7 million cars, so your idea of Brazil is way different of the reality.
MrBaseball34
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14122229/
felisleo
i admire brasil.i congratulate brasil.i love brazillian soccer team too .(though they did bad this year and beat us in 2002 world cup Smile)
anyway brazil is succeding wonders on the oil issue.i hope the greedy americans learn something from them Smile
but the thing is brazil has a very big and productive soil.many countries don t.so it seems like a lot of coutries will be dependent to others in the future.
mabuhay
Quote:
Well, there's what - 10 cars in Brazil?


You do know that Brazil is larger then the US don't you? It has more than half the population but that is still fairly huge for a country and there are a lot of long highways in Brazil. You might be redneck when... you think Brazil only has 10 cars!
MrBaseball34
felisleo wrote:
<SNIP> brazil has a very big and productive soil<SNIP>


America has the most productive soil in the world, why do you think they
call us the "World's Bread Basket"?
MrBaseball34
mabuhay wrote:
Quote:
Well, there's what - 10 cars in Brazil?


You do know that Brazil is larger then the US don't you?<SNIP>



I beg to differ, dude! According to the CIA World Fact Book:
https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2147rank.html

USA: 9,631,420 sq mi.
Brazil: 8,511,965 sq mil.

USA is 1,119,455 sq mil LARGER.
nopaniers
It's definitely a step in the right direction, not only towards energy independance, but also the sugar absorbs CO2 when it is growing (only to be re-emitted again). I think some richer countries could learn a thing or two...
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