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aksel
UFO sightings a lot of hot air

British defence authorities have come up with an explanation for UFOs that is bound to disappoint those who are convinced they've seen a flying saucer.

A Ministry of Defence report, which will be made public later this month, says what UFO watchers may be seeing unusual atmospheric effects like glowing plasma clouds.

"Considerable evidence exists to support the thesis that the events are almost certainly attributable to physical, electrical and magnetic phenomena in the atmosphere," the report concludes.

Plasma is an ionised gas described by Sir William Crookes in 1879 as 'radiant matter' because of its tendency to glow.

A plasma effect is also responsible for spectacular auroras like the northern lights (aurora borealis) and southern lights (aurora australis), says astronomer Dr Paul Francis of the Australian National University.

Francis says he sometimes investigates reported UFO sightings at the Mount Stromlo Observatory, where he is a fellow, and plasma clouds provide a plausible explanation.

"It's quite clear that there are lights in the sky that people really do see and it's quite clear they're not aliens," he says.

Radiant matter
Plasma clouds are electrically conductive collections of charged particles.

They form when there's an equal distribution of positive and negative charges, making the overall charge neutral.

"A plasma cloud is going to be by nature composed of electrons and ions," says Professor Iver Cairns, a space physicist from the University of Sydney.

"When they recombine to form atoms they're going to release light and therefore they will glow."

He says plasma clouds tend to stick together but they can be shaped by magnetic forces and factors like winds in the normal atmosphere.

Lightning can also cause plasma clouds, Francis says.

"Whenever you get a lot of energy such as a lightning bolt, or an aurora caused by the winds of the Sun, this generates plasma," he says.

"Gas has to be pretty hot to turn into plasma."

Ball lightning
Professor Bob Vincent from the school of chemistry and physics at the University of Adelaide says UFO observers may also be seeing ball lightning, mysterious orbs of glowing light also attributed to plasma.

"The cause of ball lightening is still not well known and there's some discussion of whether that's plasma clouds induced by lightning," he says.

Other explanations for UFOs have included upside-down mirages caused by light over the horizon, meteors and weather balloons, particularly at sunset, Francis says.

Venus is commonly mistaken for a UFO and a British battleship even fired at it during World War II.

Does plasma affect your brain?
Plasmas can also cause "extended memory retention and repeat experiences" of UFO sightings because they generate strong electromagnetic fields which affect the temporal lobes of the brain, one newspaper report quotes the UK defence scientists as saying.

But Francis says this is unlikely.

"Electromagnetic fields do have an effect on people but this is a very small effect," he says.

"If there was a plasma ball sitting three inches in front of your nose it might have some effect ... but these [clouds] are many kilometres away."

Dr David Clarke and Gary Anthony of Sheffield Hallam University, will present findings from the report Unidentified Aerial Phenomena in the UK Air Defence Region later this week.

The report, which they obtained under a Freedom of Information request, will also appear on the UK Ministry of Defence's website next week.
roismaga
Good article i think Rolling Eyes Razz
blacklava90
I think life in space is real but all this mumbo jumbo you see on tv or in books is just blasfamy. Twisted Evil
Josso
Yeah, this kind of thing is exactly why aliens and other lifeforms are not taken as seriously as they should be. I think maybe there might have been a legitimate UFO sighting, once... it probably expanded from there.
Zorrin
People are now are like "Look theres something floating in the air! ITS A UFO!!!!" People need to get a grip! lol there probably once was a real sighting but now people are just being wierd......
Josso
Zorrin wrote:
People are now are like "Look theres something floating in the air! ITS A UFO!!!!" People need to get a grip! lol there probably once was a real sighting but now people are just being wierd......


Seconded. You'll notice all photographs of UFO's are taken with REALLY BAD cameras so you can conveniantly see no details... I mean even "new" UFO sightings, who in this day and age takes that badder shot with the technology we have.
UHF123
I notice that since the recent ubiquity of cheap camcorders, digital cameras and phones with cameras, there hasn't been an increase in the number of good quality unambigous pictures clearly showing aliens and their spacecraft going about their daily business.
schnitzi
UHF123 wrote:
I notice that since the recent ubiquity of cheap camcorders, digital cameras and phones with cameras, there hasn't been an increase in the number of good quality unambigous pictures clearly showing aliens and their spacecraft going about their daily business.



No, see, the aliens know this, and have suspended operations.

I'm just surprised that in this day and age where Tom Hanks can be "filmed" talking with John Lennon, that there aren't more elaborate hoaxes. Beyond that Alien Autopsy nonsense, of course.
carbenson
SInce all the latest (publicly knowable) aircraft are 20 - 30 - even 40 years old, how can anyone even think that the covert experimantation of aircraft by skunkworks etc, cant be at least some of the explanations of UFO's.
Teezgaff
With reference to the usual ball lightning etc....

They are mostly night lights and things that have no definate shape or structure...

Is this ball lightning???

http://teezgaff.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/ufo.mpg

or this?

http://teezgaff.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/bulgaria.mpeg

Turn your volume up too to make sure there are no edits.....
The Conspirator
You have got to kidding me. Any half wit hoaxer can make those, especially with the video editing soft wear we have today.
And that first one. Its from the SciFi channel web site. The Scifi channel. Scifi, scince fiction. key word, fiction.


"Large skepticism leads to large understanding. Small skepticism leads to small understanding. No skepticism leads to no understanding."
-Xi Zhi
Teezgaff
I think the SCI-FI one is a good un...

If it is a hoax I'd be hard pressed to do it... and that's what I do.. (interpret photography)

The thing that convinces me is ... When the clip starts if you look between the twin towers you can just catch it moving in the space between them..

Also when the object moves to the right from the towers pause it and play it frame by frame..
The Conspirator
Its a hoax, all it take is skill and practise. And skill comes from practise. If you experimented in trying to make a hoax UFO video, in a matter of time, you could make one easily.

EDIT: It is more than skill though, you do need the right video editing soft wear.

Edit again: And don;t forget it come from the scifi channel site, they have the people and money to make to make movies and shows, they could very easily make such videos.
Teezgaff
The Conspirator wrote:
Its a hoax, all it take is skill and practise. And skill comes from practise. If you experimented in trying to make a hoax UFO video, in a matter of time, you could make one easily.

EDIT: It is more than skill though, you do need the right video editing soft wear.

Edit again: And don;t forget it come from the scifi channel site, they have the people and money to make to make movies and shows, they could very easily make such videos.


I disagree...

This was a clip from their Sightings show. If they faked it their credibilty would plummet.

This is also better than any of the hollywood effects that have been presented in movies such as War of Worlds, Close encounters etc...

If it was faked give the guy/girl an award as the depth of field, glass reflection, sound are perfect......
The Conspirator
Teezgaff wrote:
The Conspirator wrote:
Its a hoax, all it take is skill and practise. And skill comes from practise. If you experimented in trying to make a hoax UFO video, in a matter of time, you could make one easily.

EDIT: It is more than skill though, you do need the right video editing soft wear.

Edit again: And don;t forget it come from the scifi channel site, they have the people and money to make to make movies and shows, they could very easily make such videos.


I disagree...

This was a clip from their Sightings show. If they faked it their credibilty would plummet.

This is also better than any of the hollywood effects that have been presented in movies such as War of Worlds, Close encounters etc...

If it was faked give the guy/girl an award as the depth of field, glass reflection, sound are perfect......

Sightings has credibility? Scifi has credibility? Nope.
Look up pseudoscience.
It is easy for anyone with the right tools and knowledge to fake any UFO video.
darkshadow
I believe that we are not the only intelligent life forms in our galaxy, but I disagree with the people that believe that UFO's have been near our planet.
I Disagree for the following reasons:

    We have searched our galaxy and discovered that our planet is the only suitable planet to sustain life. (Mars may have been suitable a long time ago but not any more)

    In order to travel from one galaxy to the other will take thousands of years even if the method of transportation is near the speed of light.

    It is unlikely that extraterrestrial life has spotted our planet and did not attempt to contact us.

    Sightings of UFO's do not explicitly suggest that the flying object was from another planet. The US air force and many other nations test their aircraft in secret. In addition, these weird sightings of objects in the sky can be optical illusions caused by our atmosphere


But travel over great distances in little time might be possible throw worm-holes as predicted by String theory and M theory. (However, this is not likely. Many scientists are sckeptical of these theories.)
Teezgaff
darkshadow wrote:
I believe that we are not the only intelligent life forms in our galaxy, but I disagree with the people that believe that UFO's have been near our planet.
I Disagree for the following reasons:

    We have searched our galaxy and discovered that our planet is the only suitable planet to sustain life. (Mars may have been suitable a long time ago but not any more)

    In order to travel from one galaxy to the other will take thousands of years even if the method of transportation is near the speed of light.

    It is unlikely that extraterrestrial life has spotted our planet and did not attempt to contact us.

    Sightings of UFO's do not explicitly suggest that the flying object was from another planet. The US air force and many other nations test their aircraft in secret. In addition, these weird sightings of objects in the sky can be optical illusions caused by our atmosphere


But travel over great distances in little time might be possible throw worm-holes as predicted by String theory and M theory. (However, this is not likely. Many scientists are sckeptical of these theories.)


Have a look at www.disclosureproject.org

Dr Greer has got CIA, FBI, NSA, Army and Navy personnel together who want a congressional hearing organised so they can tell the truth about the evidence they have on the ET subject.
cybernie
I think they've already visited us yet we just don't notice.
The Conspirator
cybernie wrote:
I think they've already visited us yet we just don't notice.

If they had ever visited, we would know cause they would be in charge.
Teezgaff
The Conspirator wrote:
cybernie wrote:
I think they've already visited us yet we just don't notice.

If they had ever visited, we would know cause they would be in charge.


Maybe they can't interfere with how we live. Just observe and experiment.
The Conspirator
Teezgaff wrote:
The Conspirator wrote:
cybernie wrote:
I think they've already visited us yet we just don't notice.

If they had ever visited, we would know cause they would be in charge.


Maybe they can't interfere with how we live. Just observe and experiment.

One more person blinded by the fanciful ridiculous ideology of star trek.
Thats not the nature of life. If aliens ever come, we would know cause they would be in charge. They wouldn't come hundreds of light years just to watch some back woods planet at the edge of the galaxy that happens to have a primitive civilisation. Aliens that could travel here from another soler system would have been around thousands, more likely millions of years than us, they would see us as merely animals, highly destructive animals.
If aliens gave a damn about "primitive" (yes they would count us in with Chimpanzees and mice) creators they would conquer or destry us to stop us from raping the planet.
reddishblue
UFOs have entered pop culture big time and people are now influenced by documentarys and books, now if you see something romotely strange it is always look a UFO
Maybe we saw one once but there are many more mistakes than sightings for sure
Bikerman
The Conspirator wrote:

One more person blinded by the fanciful ridiculous ideology of star trek.
Thats not the nature of life. If aliens ever come, we would know cause they would be in charge. They wouldn't come hundreds of light years just to watch some back woods planet at the edge of the galaxy that happens to have a primitive civilisation. Aliens that could travel here from another soler system would have been around thousands, more likely millions of years than us, they would see us as merely animals, highly destructive animals.
If aliens gave a damn about "primitive" (yes they would count us in with Chimpanzees and mice) creators they would conquer or destry us to stop us from raping the planet.


Agreed (in the main).
As Hawking points out - the history of advanced cultures meeting more primative cultures is not a happy one. I can think of no examples to the contrary in recorded history. It would be unwise, therefore, to assume that any contact with aliens would necessarily follow a different pattern or lead to a different outcome - either the more primative culture becomes absorbed into the more advanced, or it is killed-off.

Chris.
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