Do things like tae kwon do, kendo, or tai chi considered sports?
I know many of these include excessive exercises, but are they really considered sports?
People view football, baseball, soccer, basketball, golf, swimming, etc. as sports, but we all get a different feeling when talking about martial arts. Is martial arts an art? Like dancing? But isn't dancing a sport? I don't really get it.
Hmm ... there are martial arts, whitch You watch and love it 
One of them are capoeira - music+songs+dance+fight+weapon fight(maculele) and even samba de roda 
You may call it even an art Would boxing or kickboxing or wrestling be considered martial arts? Because most people consider those to be sports.
I consider a sport to be a physical competition. Martial arts is a physical competition to strike, pin, or knock out an opponent. So yes.
| prepkid wrote: |
Do things like tae kwon do, kendo, or tai chi considered sports?
I know many of these include excessive exercises, but are they really considered sports?
People view football, baseball, soccer, basketball, golf, swimming, etc. as sports, but we all get a different feeling when talking about martial arts. Is martial arts an art? Like dancing? But isn't dancing a sport? I don't really get it. |
TKD is a sport.
Kendo is a sport.
Tai Chi is an exercise system.
Krav Maga is a Martial Art. But not a sport.
So it depends on How the Art is used. If it is used for sport, it is a sport. | odinstag wrote: |
TKD is a sport.
Kendo is a sport.
Tai Chi is an exercise system.
Krav Maga is a Martial Art. But not a sport.
So it depends on How the Art is used. If it is used for sport, it is a sport. |
LOL! Your wrong!
I found long time ago the 3 definitions and i think i remember them. So there are sports, martial arts, and combat systems.
Yes TKD is sport.
And Kendo is a sport i think.
But TAI CHI IS MARTIAL ART!!!!
And KRAV MAGA IS COMBAT SYSTEM!!!!
Basically and in short:
Sports - when there are cups, world championships, you basically learn them to start in championships or so, on trainings you mainly learn how to fight. You can learn them in some years. Sports: JUDO, TKD, BOX, KICK-BOXING, KARATE (half).
Martial arts - its more than just fighting. It involves as well as physical training a mental training. It involves forms (kata in karate), also philosophy counts. You can learn them all life and it still can be not enough. Martial arts: MOST OF KUNG FU STYLES, TAI CHI, AIKIDO, KARATE (HALF)
Combat Systems - a sort of selection from the most usable fight techniques. It's to teach in shortest time as much as possible to defend, or fight. It's Combat systems are useful in military and police. They often are some months - 2 years courses (like in police) but also you can learn them longer (KRAV MAGA). Combat systems: KRAV MAGA, COMBAT 56, BAS 3.
I think it lighten it a bit. | hyhy wrote: |
| odinstag wrote: | TKD is a sport.
Kendo is a sport.
Tai Chi is an exercise system.
Krav Maga is a Martial Art. But not a sport.
So it depends on How the Art is used. If it is used for sport, it is a sport. |
LOL! Your wrong!
I found long time ago the 3 definitions and i think i remember them. So there are sports, martial arts, and combat systems.
Yes TKD is sport.
And Kendo is a sport i think.
But TAI CHI IS MARTIAL ART!!!!
And KRAV MAGA IS COMBAT SYSTEM!!!!
Basically and in short:
Sports - when there are cups, world championships, you basically learn them to start in championships or so, on trainings you mainly learn how to fight. You can learn them in some years. Sports: JUDO, TKD, BOX, KICK-BOXING, KARATE (half).
Martial arts - its more than just fighting. It involves as well as physical training a mental training. It involves forms (kata in karate), also philosophy counts. You can learn them all life and it still can be not enough. Martial arts: MOST OF KUNG FU STYLES, TAI CHI, AIKIDO, KARATE (HALF)
Combat Systems - a sort of selection from the most usable fight techniques. It's to teach in shortest time as much as possible to defend, or fight. It's Combat systems are useful in military and police. They often are some months - 2 years courses (like in police) but also you can learn them longer (KRAV MAGA). Combat systems: KRAV MAGA, COMBAT 56, BAS 3.
I think it lighten it a bit. |
Martial Arts used to be combat systems.
When they are no longer a combat system and they are only done for excersize or sport then that is what it is.
As a matter of fact, A Combat System as you call them can have meny of the same aspects as a MArtail Art how you define it.
I am right in my definition.
If it is not used for Martial purposes, it cannot be a Martail Art IMHO.
And I prolly have a lot more info on Tai Chi. It is a health system. A way to keep nimble and limber. Most definately not to fighting art. | odinstag wrote: |
| Martial Arts used to be combat systems. |
Combat systems are the most useful techniques martial arts, and fight sports.
| odinstag wrote: |
| When they are no longer a combat system and they are only done for excersize or sport then that is what it is. |
Exercise is jogging or push-ups!
| odinstag wrote: |
| As a matter of fact, A Combat System as you call them can have meny of the same aspects as a MArtail Art how you define it. |
No Combat systems is not art. It's just fastest way to kill / control oponent. Kung fu for example is real ART, watch some forms, watch how hard is to train it, how the moves are hard, not so simple punches or kicks like in boxing or cs. That's because many kung fu styles are based on animals move (tigers, snakes, dragons and many more, can also be mixed), and that also makes it as ART, a Martial Art! Also you are breaking your physical and mental borders with every training, achieving more on every training. In combat systems you just learn techniques and only that, there's no mentality in it.
| odinstag wrote: |
| I am right in my definition. |
U gave no definintions, just examples which are not true. Every excludes others.
| odinstag wrote: |
If it is not used for Martial purposes, it cannot be a Martail Art IMHO.
And I prolly have a lot more info on Tai Chi. It is a health system. A way to keep nimble and limber. Most definately not to fighting art. |
Hahahahah u made me laugh now, man stop saying b/s. You never trained kung fu and tai chi, i did (Ho Long Pai kung fu style - very rare style used in Vietnam, Wu Tai Chi style (my school joined World Wu Organisation about year ago) and some Yang Tai Chi style), so don't speak you got more info plz ok? Where you get your info from? Tai chi is used for martial purposes, as well as for health purposes, as well it has it's own philosophy (taoism and Chi energy). So never say it's just exercise ok? Every tai chi move has it's own martial application, and belive me some are deadly. I can show you some if you want. As i said exercise can be push-ups, or running.
Here you can read if you want: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T'ai_Chi_Ch'uan or try signing up to some school then you will know what art is and what just sport.If a spelling bee is on ESPN... almost anything is a sport nowadays....
this whole martial arts thing thats going on ^^^ is dumb...
Martial arts is a sport... sports arent just for competition
I love hearing people talk about how great they or their system is.
Tai Chi as people know it is used as an exercise.
The knowing more was an assumption. I could have been wrong. I'm okay with that.
But you have a certain view and I think you are wrong.
Combat Systems would be more Martial than Martial Arts then. If you think it doesn't take a lot of practice to master a Combat System then you are just full of it yourself.
Sure tehy are easier to learn and use. But an easy way out the are not.
Combat Systems do not just show you how to kill. That is a narrow and silly view.
To limit yourself to killing techniques is just stupid and if you are as educated about martial arts as you want me to believe you would know that and not say such silly things.
I would not kill someone when knocking them out will do. I don't teach anyone to kill people as a response. Or the only responce.
Called sports or exercise or martial art is totally up to a person's judgement.
For example, Judo is called sports because it is one sport in Olympic but lots of people learn it as martial art.
So all kind of martial art can be sports but all kind of sports can not be call martial art.
Hi !
I love this discussion as it is recurrent. But on top of aspects discussed : martial art, combat system, sport, many of these disciplines claim to be an educational method. So is any sport an educational method ?
Etc.
Anyway it's just to chew the rug.
Bye. beyond of this martial arts (or at lest most of it) was first Philsophical belifs, i think is about money.
i mean i dont think in poker like a sport but espn take as it, and is matter of names only, republican, Democrat, Dark or Clear, Tall or Short you know is our need to put categories in everything
All martial arts are sports.....or can be sports
Sport
Sport is an activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively
Martial art
Martial arts are systems of codified practices and traditions of training for combat.
combat can be a sport therefore martial arts can be sports (As long as they include competitions)
You can make sport out of many things which are not sports. In olympic for example, shooting, fencing, archery etc are sports and there are medals for them where as they are arts of fighting. Similarly, I beleive martial arts is a skill and a work but of course you can make sport out of it.
It is a sport. People compete, and it needs a lot of training. I don't see how it's not a sport. Dancing isn't an olympic sport mainly because it's too subjective, and there isn't a set movelist or anything, and so that's why they have gymnastics.
