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mark
I have an upto date computer. But why does it have to take nearly 3 or 4 minutes to boot. My Dad's laptop boots so quickly.

I have an AMD Sempron 3000+ with 256 MB RAM, 40 GIG HDD, 2 GHZ(2000MHZ) and Win XP Home.
Maka
2-3 mins?, thats very long for a boot Shocked , make sure you have the latest bios for your mobo and any drivers, also maybe upgrade your ram to 512 or more rams very cheap now, also look at your startup folder and see whats in there and delete whats un needed and defrag as well.
nikolic
That is a long boot, but where does it hang up?

You can probably remove some of the services that start up before login for some speed.

Check out this link:

http://www.onecomputerguy.com/windowsxp_tips.htm#services_disable

You will find a series of default services that are infrequently used.

PAY ATTENTION TO THE DESCRIPTIONS!!!
You may stop a service that you need running, otherwise.
Bondings
Do you have a norton antivirus? It can sometimes slow down the startup with up to 2 minutes.
Deviatorz
increase your ram by another 64mb i guess, you might want to check how many applications are going to run at startup, i dont think thatll make a big difference but its worth a shot. try booting into safemode and see if the speed is the same...
mark
Bondings wrote:
Do you have a norton antivirus? It can sometimes slow down the startup with up to 2 minutes.


Yeah, I have Norton Internet Security installed. It scans programs as it goes but I don't think that would be a problem, would it?
ganz
My boot takes around 2-3 mins but my comp is old so its pretty much expected.
chanchunyu
I guess it should not be more than 1.5 minutes......
It only happened to me when I was still using Win98...... Shocked
I guess you have to add more RAM
(256mb more should be ok, my computer has 512mb RAM and a 1.5G CPU....and it takes about half minutes only)
and before this, you may disable some pre-loaded programs which are not a must to have them loaded
Deviatorz
mark wrote:
Bondings wrote:
Do you have a norton antivirus? It can sometimes slow down the startup with up to 2 minutes.


Yeah, I have Norton Internet Security installed. It scans programs as it goes but I don't think that would be a problem, would it?


no NIS only runs after explorer.exe is started.
gonzo
find out with: bootvis

a free microsoft tool that will time each device and service. simply install, run, boot a couple of times, and look at the graph result. You'll get a good idea which services are causing the lag. Sometimes it's services you don't need. Mind you, there aren't any "useless" services in windows. They each have a use -- you might have no current use for them. Be especially leary of sites that tell you to disable this or that without providing a DETAILED reason. Do some research and learn about services you need.

learn everything you need to know

http://google.com/search?q=bootvis
parl
mark wrote:
I have an AMD Sempron 3000+ with 256 MB RAM, 40 GIG HDD, 2 GHZ(2000MHZ) and Win XP Home.

Another thing to consider is when you buy a bundled PC (if that is what youu purchased) is sometimes you get a low end harddrive. One that spins at 5400rpm rather than 7200rpm or more. This is the bottleneck.
when I was upgrading my PC (AMD Athlon 2500+ 1.8ghz, 512mb, 80gb 7200rmp w8mb cache and XP home) There was a noticable differece going from a slower harddisk to the 7200rpm drive.
You should also consider running anti-spyware tools in addition to the above advice. all you need is one thing holding you down.

Oh, one other thing. If you're connected wireless. your system could be hanging while the driver loads. I've noticed this on an older PC I have.
Deji
1) Check for spyware
2) Virus scan
3) Disable unnessesary start up software (quicktime and other crap)
4) Defrag

if none of that makes any difference maybe get another 256mb of ram as 512MB of ram should be the -bare- minimum for any computer.
also the HD might be an issue
parl
Deji wrote:
if none of that makes any difference maybe get another 256mb of ram as 512MB of ram should be the -bare- minimum for any computer.

I very much agree! This is the best advice for anyone running XP. It really need's 512 min. I have 512 of the dual channel memory and my sytem could certainly use more with certain programs like Photoshop.
kv
Maka wrote:
2-3 mins?, thats very long for a boot Shocked , make sure you have the latest bios for your mobo and any drivers, also maybe upgrade your ram to 512 or more rams very cheap now, also look at your startup folder and see whats in there and delete whats un needed and defrag as well.


I don't think increasing ram will help at all. Even with 128 mb it boots quite fast. and xp itself does not take all that memory. You can check the bios settings for several tests it does and may be the wait time some bioses have before starting the boot process.
parl
kv wrote:
You can check the bios settings for several tests it does and may be the wait time some bioses have before starting the boot process.

I guess it would come down to where the lag is. Are you watching the little bars under the XP logo (where drivers and such are loading) or are you waiting at the desktop for the hourglass to go away (where most start-up programs load)
mark
Oh yeah, I found out what the problem is. Win XP requires 256 MB RAM to boot and hence cannot perform additional functions and run any more programs while it is booting. It was double or triple more RAM, then I guess it would be more quick.

My Dad's laptop has 512 MB, boots real quick. My Mom has 1 GB and it boots in a nanosecond!!!
unfo
I have some terribly irritable thing on my boot too:
somewhere between diskcheck and windows loading screen, he starts to "check incoming proxies from ethernet adapter", i got some standard network card which i use for connecting second pc to mine while mine is server and gets internet via usb thingy.

I already messed in bios so it wont 'network boot' but it doesnt help and really annoys me, pressing escape during the process stops it, but thats plain annoying Smile
nilsmo
All I do is checck for spyware using Spybot Search and Destroy, then goto Run..., type in MSConfig, and uncheck most of the items under the Startup tab.
unfo
WOOW that msnconfig is wonderful, youre a genius dude Smile never seen it be4
MARCIV
First of all : don't touch MSCONFIG

Use this little freeware :STARTER
http://www.zdnet.fr/telecharger/windows/fiche/0,39021313,39068625s,00.htm
it will delete all "indesirable" boot entry. For example MSN.

After, clean your register with this : REGCLEANER

http://www.worldstart.com/weekly-download/archives/reg-cleaner4.3.htm
use menu TOOL>REGISTRY CLEANUP>DO THEM ALL

Of course :

Code:
All I do is checck for spyware using Spybot Search and Destroy, then goto Run[/quote]
Wink

Use SPYBOT and not ADWARE.

Don't forget to use BOOTVIS :
this usefull little soft analyze your boot and optimize time elapsed to perfom it.
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=664

AND UPGRADE YOUR RAM !
to choice the correct ram see this link :
http://www.cyberwalker.net/faqs/how-tos/ram-upgrade-faqs.html
psycosquirrel
My computer used to run slow on the startup due to the amount of customization I have done. Anything suck as StyleXP, Norton, or any Windows service will slow the startup. Just eliminate the services you do not need and possibly upgrade your CPU and HDD. You can order a high rpm HDD from www.pricewatch.com for very cheap.
MARCIV
psycosquirrel wrote:
My computer used to run slow on the startup due to the amount of customization I have done. Anything suck as StyleXP, Norton, or any Windows service will slow the startup. Just eliminate the services you do not need and possibly upgrade your CPU and HDD. You can order a high rpm HDD from www.pricewatch.com for very cheap.


Hum what do yo mean by upgrade cpu ?????? Question HDD ???? Argh!
RAM is much more important.

Control Panel -> Administrative Tools -> Services. Services manager will be shown here.

From here you can activate or deactivate the services that run on your PC.
A lot are useless, but some of them are 100% necesary for the system to start.
By deactivating some of them, we can get better overall performance, more available resorces and more free RAM.

So, getting back at it, here's a list with all Windows XP's services.
You can right-click and Proprieties on every service.

Complete list with Windows XP services that are running in background along with their description
and my reccmanded setting.
Don't use by default my recommanded setting; read all the explications first.

Alerter (DISABLE) - Announces users of administrative alerts. Usually useless.

Application Layer Gateway Service (Manual) - Used for Assign Publish and Remove software services. On manual, it will start only if needed.

Automatic Updates (DISABLE) - Useless. Goto windowsupadate.microsoft.com for any updates.

Backgroud Intelligent transfer Service (Manual) - Used for asincronous data transfer with http 1.1 servers.

ClipBook (DISABLE) - Used to stare information (cut/copy/paste) and share them with other PCs. Usually useless.

COM+ Event System (DISABLE) - There are almost no apps that use COM+, but on manual it will start if needed.

COM+ System Application (DISABLE) - Same as above.

Computer Browser (DISABLE) - A list with network computers. This service is not required for a stand-alone system. If you wanna share files, it must be started.

Cryptographic Services (DISABLE) - Confirms the signatures of the files in Windows. You could get certification warnings, but it does not affect system stability.

DHCP Client (DISABLE) - Gets a dynamic IP from your DHCP server. If you have a static IP(and IP that does not change) you can disable this service. If you use modems, let it activated.

Distributed Link Tracking (DISABLE) - Maintains links with NTFS files in your PC or a domain. Usually not required.

Distributed Transaction Coordinator (DISABLE) - Takes care of the tranzactions that require multiple resources. Windows works withought this one too.

DNS Client (Automatic) - Takes care of DNS names and control functions of the Active Directory domain. Helps online. Live it on.

Error Reporting Service (DISABLE) - Calls home to Microsoft when errors occur. LOL; disable it.

Event log (Automatic) - This allows Event Log messages from the applications to be seen in Event Viewer. This should be on; windows can get very upsad if it's turned off.

Fast User Switching Compatibility (Automatic) - Disable it to get win2k logon window.

Fax Service (DISABLE) - Not installed by default, so leave it off.

FTP Publishing Service (DISABLE) - Used for having a FTP server or your network. Activate it only if you really need it.

Help and Suport (DISABLE) - Resource eater. Disable it. Warning: it will auto-activate if you access Start->Help or press F1.

Human Interface Device Access (DISABLE) - If any of your peripherals doesn't work, leave it on. If all's ok, disabled.

IIS Admin (DISABLE) - Usually used with a local web server of ftp.

IMAPI CD-Burning COM Service (DISABLE) - Used to "burn" CDs. Use Nero or A120% instead.

Indexing Service (DISABLE) - Super resource eater. Disable it.

Internet Connection Firewall and Internet Connection Sharing (MANUAL) - If you have shared internet access or shared files, let it on, else off.

ISPEC Services (DISABLE) - Enabled only for security-obsseded people.

Logical Disk Manager (DISABLE) - vital to run Disk Management MMC dynamic volume console. Useless otherwise.

Logical Disk Manager Administrative Service (DISABLE) - Same as above.

Message Queuing (DISABLE) - Not installed. Let it this way.

Message Queuing Triggers (DISABLE) - Same as above.

Messenger (DISABLE) - Send messages between clients and servers. I don't need it.

MS Software Shadow Copy Provider (DISABLE) - Used with Volume Shadow Copy Service.

Net Login (DISABLE) - Used to login to a Domain Controller.

NetMeeting Remote Desktop Sharing (DISABLE) - Security bug. Let it disabled.

Network Connections (Automatic) - Required for network setup. If internet works, disable it.

Network DDE (DISABLE) - Don't activate if you don't use the clipbook service.

Network DDE DSDM (DISABLE) - Same as above.

Network Location Awareness (NLA) (Manual) - Used with Internet Connection Sharing.

NT LM Security Suport Provider (DISABLE) - Not necesarry unless you use Message Queuing or a Telnet server.

Performance Logs and Alerts (DISABLE) - Gathers various performance info and logs it or activates an alert. Useless.

Plug and Play (Automatic) - If you change any components, this service will detect it (teoretically).

Portable Media Serial Number (DISABLE) - Gets serial numbers from connected mobile music players. Disable it if everything works fine.

Print Spooler (Automatic) - If you have a printer: auto, else disabled.

Protected Storage (DISABLE) - Allows saving local password or Autocomplete web information. Let it on if you use autocomplete.

QoS RSVP (DISABLE) - Get you some traffic control in a IPSEC network and for the apps that support QoS and also has an adapter that supports that.

Remote Access Auto Connection Manager (DISABLE/Manual) - Created a connection to a program when it requires an address. Disable it if sh*t happens. Live it manual for dial-up.

Remote Access Connection Manager (DISABLE/Manual) - Same as above.

Remote Desktop Help Session Manager (DISABLE) - Security breach. Stop it ASAP.

Remote Procedure Call (RPC) (Automatic) - Critical importance. Let it on automatic. Almost everything depends on this service.

Remote procedure Call (RPC) Locator (DISABLE) - data base evidence of RPC. Not interesting at all.

Remote Registry Service (DISABLE) - Security breach. Stop it ASAP. This allows other users to get access to your registry. LOL

Removable Storage (DISABLE) - Naturally this is not required but if you noticesomething wierd with your CD/DVD-R/RW let it on auto.

Routing and Remote Access (DISABLE) - You'll know if you need it. Let it disabled.

Secondary Logon (DISABLE) - Useless. Ancient remains of an obsolete service.

Security Accounts Manager (DISABLE) - Security breach. Turn it off.

Server (DISABLE) - If you have something shared, on, else off.

Shell Hardware Detection (DISABLE) - Autoplay for memory cards. You decide. (Disable if you don't have memory cards or donno if you do).

Smart Card (DISABLE) - If you don't have a "Smart Card", or donno what's one disable it.

Smart Card Helper (DISABLE) - Same as above.

SSDP Discovery Service (DISABLE) - Huge security risc (recognized by MS). Disable it.

System Event Notification (DISABLE) - Used with COM+;stuff like power events or logoffs/ons. Not required.

System Restore Service (DISABLE) - Mine's off. Your choice. Let it on if you have too much space to waste.

Task Scheduler (DISABLE) - Resource eater. Turn it off.

TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper Service (DISABLE) - If you don't use Netbios, disable it. It's also a security breach.

Telephony (DISABLE) - On only for Dial-up. Off else.

Telnet (DISABLE) - Security breach. Disable it.

Terminal Services (DISABLE) - Used for Fast User Switching, Remote Desktop & Remote Assistance. Daca you really use those, let it on, else off.

Themes (DISABLE) - Used for the stressful windows desktop things. Turn off.

Uninterruptible Power Supply (DISABLE) - If you don't have an Uninterruptible Power Supply, turn it off.

Universal Plug and Play Device Host (DISABLE) - Security breach but used with SSDP Discovery Service,detcts and configurs your UPnP devices in your network. Can be disabled.

Upload Manager (DISABLE) - Useless. Obsolete.

Volume Shadow Copy (DISABLE) - Unneeded. Only used by ms-backup.

Software Shadow Copy Provider Service. - Same as above.

Webclient (DISABLE) - Useless. Disable it.

Windows Audio (DISABLE) - Those nerve-crashing sounds. If you've changed them, or wanna suicide, leave it on. Else off.

Windows Image Acquisition (WIA) (Automatic) - Used for some Cameras/Videos. If SH with those, reenable it.

Windows Installer (Automatic) - Used for .mis installers. You could need it.

Windows Management Instrumentation (Automatic) - I think windows requires it. Auto. Procedure Call (RPC) needs this one on.

Windows Management Instrumentation Driver Extension (Automatic) - Same as above.

Windows Time (DISABLE) - Connects to a server to get correct time. Small security buggie. Disable it.

Wireless Zero Configuration (DISABLE) - Auto configuration for wireless devices. Turn off if you don't have wireless stuff.

WMI Performance Adapter (DISABLE) - don't see any use for it. Disable it.

Workstation (Automatic) - Must be auto. It's of major importance.
alextweewielers
Quote:
All I do is checck for spyware using Spybot Search and Destroy, then goto Run..., type in MSConfig, and uncheck most of the items under the Startup tab.


I do the exactly the same and use Ad Aware as well. www.lavasoft.de

I used to run Norton Anti Virus at 256MB ram and it took forever to start up. So I moved to AVG anti virus and that's much better.
mark
Thanks guys, you are really helping me. My Norton Internet Security has a function and it scans as programs are loaded. I think thats one of the main reasons why the booting is slow.
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