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| Quote: | From Wired News. This is an interesting explanation for the censoring, especially good at showing how Tienemann Square fits in with it.
By Eli Milchman| Also by this reporter
13:00 PM Jun, 09, 2006
China has lifted its online blockade of Google.com after a two-week crackdown that had prevented direct access to the site and temporarily thwarted popular workarounds, a media watchdog group reported Friday.
The Paris-based journalism advocacy group Reporters Without Borders, or RSF, said that tests revealed the uncensored version of the search site was accessible again to internet users in Beijing and Shanghai. The crackdown overlapped with the June 4 anniversary of the bloody 1989 Tiananmen Square protests.
A Google spokesperson confirmed this, saying that "we have heard no further reports from users in China of problems accessing Google.com."
On June 6, RSF reported that Google.com was blocked throughout much of China, and that programs like DynaPass and Ultrasurf, which allowed users in China access to censored web content, were also being blocked on a large scale successfully for the first time.
"It's always the same thing that happens in China -- they heavily censor the internet because they think people will be discussing the event," said Julien Pain, RSF Internet Freedom desk chief.
"This year, what's new is that they blocked Google at this period."
Google in January launched Google.cn in China, a self-censored version of the search engine that conforms with official government restrictions on content, including pornography and gambling, as well politically sensitive subjects such as Tiananmen Square and the Falun Gong sect.
On Tuesday, Google co-founder Sergey Brin was quoted in news reports saying that he believed the company may have compromised its principles by agreeing to state-ordered censorship.
RSF's Pain criticized Google for creating the site, saying it gives the Chinese government an option to fall back on if they decide block Google.com.
"If you give them the option … in time of crisis they will block it. And in the long run, they will block it."
If you leave the option open to the Chinese, you have to be really naοve to think that they won't use it," said Pain. |
I always thought Google's motto was "Do No Evil". It doesnt look like they are following that philosophy.
I thought that they had changed their motto. Not sure where I got that from though...
Anyway, if China is going to block access to the 'main' google site when they feel like it, then I cant work out why they wouldn't stick to their censored version full-time.
EDIT: And I can't really see that Google is doing evil. If they didn't comply with the censorship, China would simply block access to them completely. I'm sure the Chinese are better off with a censored website than none at all.
I wouldn't believe that a multi-whatever company like Google is going to be true to its word. Deception is power and they need more business to compete. They just need good PR, not ethical accountabililty. Their "No Evil" message is just a publicity stunt (i.e. refusing to give the NSA search records). If anything, this article you posted shows how hipocritical Google is.
How is it Evil? I think China's censorship is about as evil as our govt spying on us. I don't see how Google doesn't make that connection.
i dont get it, its just google
| The_Gamer294 wrote: | | i dont get it, its just google |
I don't get a lof of things in the world. China and Google are both included.
I'm sure I can think of some worse things in this world other than google caving in to China.
I am not alluding that China's policies are right or wrong, but allowing (thier) general public access to such a touchy topic at this time of year ceratinlt (to me anyway) seems like the are loosening up a little bit....which could be either good or bad for that particular country given thier political infrastructure.
Isn't it just Google.cn? I remember reading in an article that the Google President said 99% of the people used plain old Google.com anyway.
for most computers that are in Chinese. when u visit google.com, it automatically redirect to "google.com.cn" and thats in Chinese!
and i guess thats included in the censor
| Pensuke wrote: | | Isn't it just Google.cn? I remember reading in an article that the Google President said 99% of the people used plain old Google.com anyway. |
As said above, it will redirect automatically to google.cn
Though users in other countries can access google.com apart from their country specific sites, the chinese users can only access google.cn as they are forced in to the site
"Do No Evil"
Sure, search "porn" on Google and 10,000 evil pages appear. Yeah, China seems to like censoring their citizens from seeing certain news articles. Weird.
-Rhys
i love google, 
| RhysAndrews wrote: | "Do No Evil"
Sure, search "porn" on Google and 10,000 evil pages appear. Yeah, China seems to like censoring their citizens from seeing certain news articles. Weird.
-Rhys |
Porn us not evil but there is evil porn. And there is way too much porn on the internet. But that off topic.
Heres a question: How do we know that they are not still censoring Google? What if its a lie and there still doing it? I wouldn't put it past google or the Chines government.
| The Conspirator wrote: |
Heres a question: How do we know that they are not still censoring Google? What if its a lie and there still doing it? I wouldn't put it past google or the Chines government. |
I've been thinking the same thing. They could've just unblocked the gambling and the porn but keep the antigovernment and the touchy stuff blocked. The gambling and porn can't influence citizens in a way adverse to the government whilst the political deviation can. However, more people will be interested in the gambling and porn so that would get searched more, thus leading to the belief that the goverment has allowed access to the complete site.
Google is one of the best website,I like use google to search news. but now as a Chinese one I often can not open www.google.com and can not login my Gmail acount. I am very angery of that.The government must stop doing that ignoble things.
I have tryed a method can resove that problem,if you can not open google, add or or to the file | Code: | | C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts |
then maybe it will be normal.
i think its mad that the government would even want to do that to the chinese people i mean shouldnt the government be for the people. not the people for the government and I know thats been said lots but it never really happens does it. i mean what have the chinese government actually got to hide? cause now all theve done is make everyone dislike them. i mean i'm not even from china and i dont like them(probably cause i dont know the rest of the story) but cutting out parts of the internet is like takeing the sun out of the world(lame example but true for someone that loves the internet like me:))
but i am on googles side they have been a great company and are only doing what was told of them by that silly chinese government. but hey its all over now right so everyones happy! . . . . . . . right?
Information is power and the China's government doesn't won't the people to have too much power cause they won't all the power.
Boingboing.net has several methods to bypass the Great Firewall...all of them pretty trivial. Go check out and see.
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