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twisthigh
Hey guys, I wanted to share something with you guys... anyone who knows me will tell you I'm very sweet outgoing trusting etc... and I am... I always look on the bright side and find postitive in the worst situations and always expect the best from everyone.... today that all changed... I started talking with someone on AIM her name is nicolerichienu and she runs the nicolerichie.nu website... she was going on about how she heard I had a good site and wanted to be affilliated with me... I politely declined and then I noticed she was logging in as some of my members, I had to shut down my site and change all the member passwords.... so now I have learned a big lesson... don't trust anyone and always expect the worse... I am so depressed that someone would do that, what does she have to gain, nothing... well this day changed me and I am just very upset... anyway, that's it, I just had to get it off my chest... so if that username adds you, don't talk to her, ignore her, and don't do her the honor of visiting her site...
cybernie
too bad! actually, the same incident happened to me before... some befriended me and became a member of my forum... i added him to the mods and later became one of my "trusted" admins since he's proven his worth on the community... i later found out my site was on the verge of "breakage"... he's got everything ruined... members banned, accounts deleted, site cluttered... then he left without even saying a word, a sorry... he left the community as if we were hit by a catastrophe... we've learned the same lesson...
rightclickscott
I trust one of my Hacker friends, but the fact that he likes to go on my computer alot and start conversations in notepad can get freaky sometimes. He has two AIM addresses and he always uses notepad! Ahh, but he's cool. I trust him because he knows not to screw around with me, because I'm bigger than him, and I can beat him up, but I wouldn't do that unless he really pissed me off. He knows how a karate chop feels...

I kid, though. You see, you probably only met this nicolerichienu online, and you can't really have alot of trust for someone until you meet them in person. You really have to attain and keep a personality all your own that says "don't screw around with me or you'll pay." I could get my Hacker to help you with this guy.
twisthigh
^ Thanks hun, I appreciate that, but yeah that was my personality though, I did trust people I met online because I'm online and I know I can be trusted... I just expect the best, and obviously I've learnt my lesson.... Since you have a friend that does that, can you tell me why? what does he have to gain from hacking people? and how does he choose who he'll hack? what does he gain really? Sorr for all the questions I'm just so very confused Sad
Damondred
I've found that I have never trusted anyone online before. It started back about five years ago. I was really big into a game hosted by Sony called Infantry (before it was pay to play). Well, this was around the time ICQ was really big, and chain letters were also big in ICQ. I recieved one saying,"Forward this to show that you are active, otherwise your account will be deleted." I was like," Oh noes!!!!" So, I forwarded it to the only friend I had at the time. He was a real life friend from my school. Well, after I forwarded that, he sent me a message saying,"Hey, go to this site! It has some really good Infantry tips and strategy on it!" I was really stoked, so I clicked the link. TO MY DISMAY! On it, were some very nasty pictures of cartoon feces pornography. Well, needless to say I was pretty freaked and immediatly closed the browser. "WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT MAN?!" "Don't send me chain letters," he says. Well, I learned a lesson. Don't trust anything people say, send, or anything in your general direction.
twisthigh
Yeah... people pretty much suck... I'm so discouraged...
Josso
Ok I'll try not to go off topic but I think I have had a bit of a similar experience.


I appointed moderator of my forum as my best friend (obviously out of trust) but one night I went on my forum to find all threads deleted. I asked everyone what the hell was going on only to get massive spam from my so called "moderator" through MSN. It turns out it was believed that I had been on his account taking abuse to some of his contacts (friends, family, girlfriend etc). Well it turned out eventually after being massively confused that one of my other "best friends" had actually done it, he hadn't rubbed the blame off onto me but unfortunately had not owned up. I was pretty cool about it but I admit I was slightly annoyed. So I restored a backup a few days old and thought nothing of it for the minute (I back up practically every day because so many of my forums have broken). I managed to convince him that it was someone else that had done it (yes I did mention names but I did give the other person the opportunity to own up). He eventually believed me but only just said "sorry" once and he was more concerned about getting vengeance on the other person.

The point is that, even if I had done that (apparently the abuse never happened, it was just changing of the screen name) why was that a good reason to delete literally all of the posts on my forum when I had invested so much time and effort getting the community to grow and I practically spent whole days fixing it when it went down for various reasons... he knew that but he still took the actions he did. For a start I was hurt that he actually thought I would do something like that, we had a bond of trust... and secondly to be honest the slightly insulting screen name was no reason to destroy a LOT of hard work, I mean this wasn't just any forum I had made in 5 minutes it was one of my serious web projects that I put so much work into.


I now only appoint moderators I really, really trust and no-one has Admin access apart from me.

Hope this is relevant.
Cheers.
cybernie
that becomes a problem when we're deceived by the good things shown by other people... we just realized that we're on some sort of trouble in a surprise...
rightclickscott
twisthigh wrote:
^ Thanks hun, I appreciate that, but yeah that was my personality though, I did trust people I met online because I'm online and I know I can be trusted... I just expect the best, and obviously I've learnt my lesson.... Since you have a friend that does that, can you tell me why? what does he have to gain from hacking people? and how does he choose who he'll hack? what does he gain really? Sorr for all the questions I'm just so very confused Sad


It's not like he sits at his computer all day hacking people. Actually, most of the time, he's creating level mods for Halo 2, stuff like making SMG's shoot brute shot rounds and design new levels. He is a very experienced hacker, especially since he started learning six years ago, and he's got tons of programs on his computer to guard him from other hackers. Alot of the stuff he does is for protective purposes. He single-handedly took down the biggest hacker group yet, c0rrupt, and he could have deleted their backups, but he's sympathetic most of the time, so he decided not to. Knowing him, he probably has all of your IP Addresses right now, but he really holds back. He created a program that can take down an entire school system's network, and he sent it to one of his "students." He has this cult following of students in not only Modding but Hacking too. He has so many credentials, and I know this guy in person, he's a living legend. A member of the 7 kings of the internet he is. You need to understand this, he doesn't spend all day hacking computers. Anything he does do is for his personal enjoyment (I.E. talking to me through notepad) or if he hates someone, he'll clutter their computer's with spam and gay porn. That's just the kind of guy he is. He likes to have fun, but he can be very serious too.
Bockman
Guys, you can take Frihost as an example of that trust.

On the early days Steve was alone creating this (and he managed it solo for a while too). When the time came, he tried to sort a team out of the members he hardly knew. of course he didn't give full power, but he gave us A LOT of permissions and this was surelly a very complicated step (specially when it envolves web hosting and managing server accounts).
Of course there was the (calculated) risk of things going sour, but he gave us a vote of confidence, and we've never broken it.

Point here is.. Sometimes you have to trust people to help u out, to allow you to grow (this is valid both in Real Life and in Virtual Life).
Of course, you can't give full confidence at the start, but keeping ppl away isn't the solution. you have to moderate the way you handle with people and build a relationship by steps. Even then some things can go wrong, but you have to ways to go:

1 - If in Real Life, get back on the horse and move forward. It happens a lot and it's a part of life

2 - If in Virtual Life, RESTORE YOUR BACKUP and proceed to step one.


Be Well Cool

P.S. - to give you an idea, me and morph are admins here for a year or so and even now we don't have full permissions on Frihost. Somethings we do NOT do (although we have technical permissions for it within the forum) and others we can't do (because we have no possibility of doing it, such as server maintenance). Step by step m8 Wink
Vashni
I sure do hate it when people do that. I mean for real, whats in it for them except to have the feeling of satisfation. I didnt used to think about it, until someone pulled that trick on me. Makes one very careful when talking to strangers online.
rightclickscott
Vashni wrote:
I sure do hate it when people do that. I mean for real, whats in it for them except to have the feeling of satisfation. I didnt used to think about it, until someone pulled that trick on me. Makes one very careful when talking to strangers online.


You know what I do with strangers online? If I don't know them, then I just refer to them as a bot, and they are a bot until I know who they are. You know why? It keeps them on their toes!
twisthigh
Josso: Thanks for sharing your story, it's totally relevant, I'm so sorry to hear that that happened, and yeah, that was pretty excessive of your friend, I just hate when you think you can trust someone and then you find out you really can't...

cybernie: Exactly, I hate that, I was such a trusting person, really outgoing, but I learnt my lesson through that surprise...

rightclickscott: I'm sorry but I still don't see the point, I'm sure he's cool with you, and I'm happy to hear he took down that group, but I still don't see the point in talking to you in notepad or spreading gay porn... but that's me.. Smile

Bockman: Thanks a bunch sweetie, I'm taking your advice, I'm still stuck at step one though, lol, and I'm glad to see that you all found trustworthee people out there, frihost got lucky, though it's mostly because Steve played it smart!! Wink

Vashni: I know, I pretty much vowed to never be nice to people on line again, but then I realised I can't be a biatch to everyone just because one person screwed me over... and I feel exactly the same way, just like why??

rightclickscott: I guess that's smart, but I've never been like that, I always see people, real people and I become too friendly too fast, maybe I should start seeing bots, lol...we'll see!!

Thanks everyone for your replies!! <3

Feel free to keep sharing your experiences/points of view!!
rightclickscott
twisthigh wrote:
I guess that's smart, but I've never been like that, I always see people, real people and I become too friendly too fast, maybe I should start seeing bots, lol...we'll see!!


I tell you what, how about I be your friend, and you won't be refered to as a bot. Well, I won't say it to you, because the internet is just a scam to get my credit card numbers.
areacode_777
tell me something...can you go on in the world without relying on anyone...not a single person...fictional or real?

if you can good for you

but for those other millions or so who cant
all things come with the good and bad
there are many memories
but time makes them all good

Very Happy cheer up lol
FerSx
Just look at this as a new life experience, something to watch for in the further, but don’t live behind it, think of all the good experience and nice people u can miss if u became distrusted on any one u meet ore talk to. JUST have to be a little more careful that’s all. Always thinking and hoping for the best but watching for the bad things. Bee careful isn’t bad.

I am a trusting person too, and have receive a loot of disappointments in life, just deicide to not live afraid of them, if some one try to disappoint u THAT’S THER MISS, not yours. Always giving the best of me to other people, if they miss that well THERE PROBLEM!
twisthigh
rightclickscott: sounds good sweetie Very Happy

And thanks you two, I'm feeling a lot better ,and you guys made really good points Wink
Vrythramax
@twisthigh

My sympathies...I myself have fallen into a similar trap (not via chat though) and it cost me quite a bit of $$$ in the end.

Always remember: "The bad thing about the Internet is that nobody knows your a dog."
rightclickscott
twisthigh wrote:
rightclickscott: sounds good sweetie Very Happy


Awsome, send me an email or something, I'm bored.
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