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Sleep less to get more out of life?






Which one?
Sleep more to get more out of life.
51%
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Sleep less to get more out of life.
48%
 48%  [ 160 ]
Total Votes : 328

Hogwarts
I have a theory Idea . If you sleep less, you have more time to get more out of life (I suggest spending all your extra time on FriHost). But if you sleep less, you have less energy to live life. What are your opinions?
tidruG
Sleep more.
This refreshes your mind and body.
Prioritize what it is that you really need to do.
An extra hour of sleep gives you enough enerfy to do work faster, meaning what you would have done in 6 hours had you slept for 1 hour less can be done in ...say...4.5 hours had you got that extra sleep in... a refreshed body and mind gives you higher efficiency.
Malar
Everyone is different: some people need more sleep than others. I don't need that much sleep, so I prefer to only do so for a few hours every night and spend the rest of the day doing other fun stuff. I love to sleep in, in weekends though Smile
the_mariska
Definitely sleep more. After two almost sleepless nights I look exactly like zombie, and feel even worse. The best thing I do before any exam is to go to bed early the night before. That really helps a lot Smile
alexcheng
Sleep less, you won't have less energy. In fact, you might feel even more energetic.

You just have to get used to it.


There's a lot of scientific research backing this up, do some google searches if you're really interested, or I can post some feedback to links if there's enough response here:p

Basically has to do with how much "rested" sleep your body is getting when you sleep. The less you sleep, the quicker your body goes into this "rested" state, and less in dream states etc.

That's why a lot of people can function with 4 hours of sleep a day, while others feel morbidly tired after 10 hours of sleep. Some biological differences can attribute to this, I'm sure, but it's not all biological.
death_dealer
have more options I think you sould be balanced couse its realy important to be balanced
nam_siddharth
I voted for speep less, because I actually sleep a lot. although, I like this proverb -
Quote:
Early to bed and early to rise
Makes a man healthy, wealthy and wise
The Conspirator
Less sleep = more stress= all the crap that comes with stress.
m00tmuffin
It's nice to think that you'd get more time to do things with less sleep, but I think with 8-9 hours of sleep you still will have the time to do what you want and need to to and still have energy to do it.
Trapper
Sleep more, to get more--absolutely. If you sleep less, your body is less healthy and you are more likely to catch illness, break down muscles and do more harmful things to your body (ingest caffeine, sugar, alcohol, etc.). You will live a shorter life and thus, get less out of life. If your question had been, get more out of life in your 20's and who cares about anything beyond that, you might get a different response, but overall, we do not know how long we'll be here, but to enjoy it and to honor the temple of our body that God has given us, it needs rest--and not just on the 7th day.
Kaneda
nam_siddharth wrote:
I voted for speep less, because I actually sleep a lot. although, I like this proverb -
Quote:
Early to bed and early to rise
Makes a man healthy, wealthy and wise


I like this one better:

Quote:
Early to rise and early to bed
Makes a man healthy, but socially dead


But then, I'm a night person Smile That said, sleep as much as you need to, and not much more. I had three years of 4-5 hours sleep in my late teens. Worked nicely. Now, I feel I need around 7-8. If, after a week of sleeping for a certain amount of hours, you don't need an alarm clock to wake you up at about the right time or a bit before, you're likely to get a good amount of sleep. IF you feel pretty refreshed when waking up, and you're not sleepy during the day Wink

Sleeping less than you need won't help you do more things (as others have mentioned), it will make you do much less.
jayandsilo
alexcheng wrote:
Sleep less, you won't have less energy. In fact, you might feel even more energetic.

You just have to get used to it.


There's a lot of scientific research backing this up, do some google searches if you're really interested, or I can post some feedback to links if there's enough response here:p

Basically has to do with how much "rested" sleep your body is getting when you sleep. The less you sleep, the quicker your body goes into this "rested" state, and less in dream states etc.

That's why a lot of people can function with 4 hours of sleep a day, while others feel morbidly tired after 10 hours of sleep. Some biological differences can attribute to this, I'm sure, but it's not all biological.


It depends what stage of sleep you are in, I think there are 5 stages of sleep, the second being the deepest stage. Therefore, you get your best sleep in the first few hours.

They are actually working on drugs to induce the deepest stage of sleep, so that people can sleep only a few hours of this stage, but not be tired because of the quality of sleep. Though I think if you mess with the nature of these things too much, something is bound to go wrong.
HoboPelican
I go with the less sleep group. If I get more than 6 hours of sleep, I actually feel draggy all day. 4 to 6 hours is best for me.

But I think that everyone has to find their own comfort zone.

I will say when someone like me marries someone who sleeps 8 to 10 hours, you get lots of private time! Laughing
druidbloke
Dont sleep less or more, just sleep the amount you know is right for you personally, and everyone is different, reducing below this means you wont be able to enjoy life properly, you'll lack energy, concentration etc, any more and you might feel sluggish and have less energy aswell, get the right balance and you'll be able to use the time you are awake best.
fionab
I find it is not the amount but the quality. I know that I really only get 4 hours good quality. When I go to bed too early my mind remains active for a long while before I sleep. So I definetly use the time exploring the net and getting to know my Photoshop.
venc
I belive neither. if you sleep less, you wont have any energy to get a lot out of life, but, if you sleep more, you wont have enough time to use all your energey. so, the correct answer should be: neither, or :netrul, or :1 and 2. or,:c: all of the above. this is a mistake trick question. on the poll, none of the answers are correct! that is my truthful opinion (also, of course, I spend all my free time on frihost!)
redace
I think its nonsense that if you sleep less you get more out of your life, cause I was trying it once time and I was really tired all the day...so I had practically nothing from the time I get from sleeping less. But I have read that when the body and brain accomodates to the new life style...for example sleeping only five hours a night...it becomes better and you are not tired all the day, but it´s only a theory and theories are just theories that are changing from day to day. I think the best way to live is sleep if you are tired and doing something if you want. The main problem of many people is that they don´t want to work at all:)
Idoru
I must admit that I and many with me 'waste' quite a bit of our waken time.
I voted for more sleep, since we're often to tired to give quallity to the hours
we spend with the eyes open.
CanadianGeek
I say that less sleep is better. During the school year I lived pretty well off of 4 to 5 hours sleep and one meal a day so that I could have all that extra time to do what I wanted. I'm greedy for time.

But you have to wonder about the long term effects of sleep deprivation. Does a life of sleep deprivation lead to an earlier death due to the depression of the immune system when a person gets insufficient quantities of sleep? If so, then more sleep may be in fact better (even if not preferable) to extend a persons life span and thus yielding more time that way.
jharsika
I've tried staying up all night to do stuff....now I know when I haven't had enough sleep I get cranky, terrible headaches, and I get stupid. How can you enjoy life when you haven't slept? Perhaps sleeping just enough to stave off the pain, then you'd have mroe time?

Still though I vote for sleep more!
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roadruner
well i can say i like the idea of sleeping more Very Happy
though i can say you miss out a lot of things in life, but if i slept a lot less it would have just the same effect
so i say that you should put the third option of something in betwen - that we should sleep as much as it's needed, not more, not less Smile
(that's just in theory Wink)
squirrelmaster
I vote sleep less, if i get more than 7 hours I am droggy all day, don't know why but more sleep makes me less productive.

but i can make due on less if i take a power nap at about 1pm, so really less is the best for me, guess it really is person to person, my brother HAS to get at least 10 hours sleep Laughing
alkady
Unless your paid to think for others for a living, Sleep is important.

But I hate sleep. There is this saying from Die Another Day from Mr. Graves that goes "You only get one shot at life, Why waste it on Sleep"

And I find that true. The less you sleep, The more you get done.
Imagine a world that never sleeps, Imagine a world where sleep wasnt a need anymore. Imagine how active our world would be. Imagine how breathtaking it would be to experience nightlife all the time.

I find it beautiful, Perhaps thats because I'm a Night Owl. But if youve ever been outside at night, All night. Youll see how beautiful the world is than the day.
Soulfire
Sleep more. Sleep is a natural, neccessary part of life. Sleep is when most growing occurs, it allows the body to refresh and replenish itself. It also allows the mind to process the days events. Not to mention, it's the time when your body heals most.

Also, if you have a lack of sleep, your immune system becomes less efficient and you are more likely to get sick.
brunoboi
I think you can should both sleep and stay awake in moderation. If you pull and all-nighter the chances are you'll be doing something more fun than if you were asleep but just make sure you catch lots of sleep afterwards
SocratesX
Quality above quantity!

People who sleep more, live longer (scientifically proven).
HoboPelican
SocratesX wrote:

People who sleep more, live longer (scientifically proven).


Really? I'd love to see that research, if you could find a link. I sort of doubt that that is true. It seems like there should be an upper limit to howmuch sleep you can get and still be healthy.
aerialdreams
People actually need a lot more sleep than they think. I saw a research in a book that said that a common misconception about sleep is that people need 8 hours of sleep. In reality, people need 10 hours of sleep to get optimum energy and focus. Most people live their entire life sleep-deprived, and they don't actually know what it is like to be truly awake and focused... it was an interesting article^_^
HoboPelican
aerialdreams wrote:
People actually need a lot more sleep than they think. I saw a research in a book that said that a common misconception about sleep is that people need 8 hours of sleep. In reality, people need 10 hours of sleep to get optimum energy and focus. Most people live their entire life sleep-deprived, and they don't actually know what it is like to be truly awake and focused... it was an interesting article^_^


I remember a study were the subjects were confined to a totally enclosed environment (only artificial lights that they controlled) and allowed to set their own sleep/wake schedule. If I remember right, it averaged at about 8.5 hours per 24 hour period. Don't have the citation handy, but if anyone cares, I can try to find it.

Aerial, do you remember were you saw that research?
Soulfire
I actually saw a study on television with teenagers and sleep deprivation. It says that the average teen (because of growth and change) needs anywhere from 9-13 hours of sleep. Crazy, right? I try to catch 8-10 per night, although I'm currently operating on 3 hours of sleep. *Oops*
foodman
more sleep- well for most peolpe the more sleep you get the better off you are in the day. Your usually in a beter mood, have more energy and are able to think beter and more clearly. And besides if you dont sleep you cant have any wierd dreams or any thing like that...
teh_razz
Hogwarts wrote:
I have a theory Idea . If you sleep less, you have more time to get more out of life (I suggest spending all your extra time on FriHost). But if you sleep less, you have less energy to live life. What are your opinions?


crazy !

You have to sleep as umuch as you need.

If you sleep less you will go through the day being tired, resorting to drink those energy drinks like Monster or whatever it is they are called!!!

Cool
bluedragon
I have heard that the human body can function normally with at least three hours of sleep. I have done one and two hour sleeps, and all it took to get me going was some Iced Coffee. That stuff works wonders, let me tell you.

I do end up conking out hard at the end of the day, though. C'est la vie.
mtx
You have to sleep min. of 8 hours a day to be healthy. Less means that you get fatter! They made some tests and people living almost the same sleeping more than 8 and less than 8 hours were very different.

Bu of course sleeping 12 hours is bit too much Smile

8-9 would be ok.
SargerAs
Yeah thats right u need at least 8h sleep. But think about how to split them!!

For example if you sleep 6h at night another at noon and one in the evening you would be very much more fit!
Maybe you sleep not less but with that split you are always awake Smile I tryed it and it really works!

At the moment Im working on this principle and will maybe l8ter put in here some graphics to proof my theory!

PS: My mother says that Im crazy about that Very HappyVery Happy
HoboPelican
mtx wrote:
You have to sleep min. of 8 hours a day to be healthy. Less means that you get fatter!


Confused Sounds wrong to me. Why would someone awake and active put on more weight than someone spending more time in bed doing nothing Laughing Unless they spent their time eating, that doesn't make any sense! Laughing
Ducksteina
Sleeping more is much more important than having more time for the day - there is nothing worse than being tired the whole day.
I'd love to sleep much, but I always sleep too short. Sad
Kaneda
HoboPelican wrote:
mtx wrote:
You have to sleep min. of 8 hours a day to be healthy. Less means that you get fatter!


Confused Sounds wrong to me. Why would someone awake and active put on more weight than someone spending more time in bed doing nothing Laughing Unless they spent their time eating, that doesn't make any sense! Laughing


And that's exactly what they do. Spend their time eating. Because lack of sleep will release cortisol - a stress hormone - and you'll feel hungry even if you're full. If you've ever met a person with Cushing's syndrome, you'll know what too much cortisol does to you.

Also, growth hormone is mainly released during sleep, and helps adjust the body's reserves of fat and muscles. A large proportion of muscle building takes place during sleep. And to build muscles, you break down fat. Get too little sleep, and you'll eat more, and burn less fat + build less muscles.
ToesInSock
Sadly, my new job interferes with my personal life so I end up sleeping in shifts. I get about 4 hours at night and another 3 hours in the afternoon.
My friends are saying that ever since I took the job that I am always grumpy.
Well, let me tell you, that is a vicious rumor! And if any of these so called friends stop by and interfere with my naptime again, I'm going to tell them just where they can go - and their little dog too!
I think that pretty much settles that.
N!Ce
It's quite relative, depends on age, weather, daytime and even on the person.

Some ppl need more sleep than others.

I basically recommend to get 7-8hours of sleep in the night (6-7 in summertime) and trying to catch a nap of 30-60mins at midday. Sleeping at midday can be very effective. 30mins at midday are like 2hours in the night (might also differ from person to person).

Keep in mind that sleeping too much can also make you tired, the whole day.
<BananasAreForMonkeys
i dont think it's as simple as just sleep more or sleep less. You should try and go to sleep at the same time and wake up at the same time every day. Your body will get used to having a normal schedule, and you will have more energy... this will also probably lead to you having more time on the weekends, since you wont sleep until noon...
HoboPelican
Kaneda wrote:
HoboPelican wrote:
mtx wrote:
You have to sleep min. of 8 hours a day to be healthy. Less means that you get fatter!


Confused Sounds wrong to me. Why would someone awake and active put on more weight than someone spending more time in bed doing nothing Laughing Unless they spent their time eating, that doesn't make any sense! Laughing


And that's exactly what they do. Spend their time eating. Because lack of sleep will release cortisol - a stress hormone - and you'll feel hungry even if you're full. If you've ever met a person with Cushing's syndrome, you'll know what too much cortisol does to you.


Gotta disagree with this. Personal experiences with myself and people I know tell me that it isn't true. Most of the people I know who get less that 7 hours are on the thin side.

Granted, that's not scientific, but I sure would be interested in seeing any studies you of know that back up the "less sleep = fatter" idea.
Kaneda
HoboPelican wrote:
Granted, that's not scientific, but I sure would be interested in seeing any studies you of know that back up the "less sleep = fatter" idea.


Just a few, then...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/05/23/health/webmd/main1646606.shtml?source=RSS&attr=Health_1646606
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15283000&itool=pubmed_Abstract
http://channels.netscape.com/homerealestate/package.jsp?name=fte/sleeptime/sleeptime&floc=wn-ns
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4206263

etc. etc. etc.

Also note, that this isn't about the number of hours you get, whether it be 10, 7 or 4, it's about whether you get enough. There's no such thing as an "ideal of 8 hours" for everyone. As I already said, I lived fine on 4 hours of sleep for 3 years. Didn't have a single day of illness, didn't gain weight etc. It comes down to what you need. But if you get less than you need, your immune system, hormones etc. WILL get messed up. It's not only theorized (based on observations of hormones etc. during sleep), but also shown empirically. And I've yet to see a study showing the opposite.
HoboPelican
Kaneda wrote:


Also note, that this isn't about the number of hours you get, whether it be 10, 7 or 4, it's about whether you get enough. There's no such thing as an "ideal of 8 hours" for everyone. As I already said, I lived fine on 4 hours of sleep for 3 years. Didn't have a single day of illness, didn't gain weight etc. It comes down to what you need. But if you get less than you need, your immune system, hormones etc. WILL get messed up. It's not only theorized (based on observations of hormones etc. during sleep), but also shown empirically. And I've yet to see a study showing the opposite.


Excellent! Thanks, I do appreciate the time you took. Surprised me, but I like that Wink

I did notice this in the CBS citation.
"But it’s not always clear which comes first — healthy sleep habits or weight gain — or if people who get plenty of sleep at night have other factors that keep their weight lower"

And this at NBCI might explain my observations. I got old friends.
"Associations between sleep duration and obesity diminished after age 34 years. "

Interesting topic. I know my experiences don't qualify as evidence, but I typically don't eat when I get up, like one of those articles suggested. I get up, pop a diet soda and usually don't eat until dinner. No craving for "bad" foods.

Anyway, thanks again for the links!
hack_man_
It is weird how some people can sleep for almost days and still feel tired and some people just need an hour to feel fully awake. Creepy...

I have a friend like that, he only sleeps for 30mins and he is up 23:30/7!
I however, could sleep like a log for months and still feel tired! Laughing
hunnyhiteshseth
I think more the sleep, better it is. Sleep is an absolute necessity. Whenever we miss some time of sleep we are actually killing some of our nerve cells, if you follow that routine, then you will surely harm your body permanently.

Common symptoms will include forgetfulness,irritation, weak immune system

You can consider sleep as points on this forum. You earn them for each post. If they get into negative you better catch up & if they go below a certain level you are in deep trouble.

Actually, we can control our sleep, because in the past it was an absolute necessity.It was necessary because whenever a predator came & we humans were sleeping, then we needed to run to save our life.
But today we are abusing our "Emergency" mechanism. When people say then can work without much sleep, they are actually making there body beleive that if they will not wake up they will be in trouble. Its same as using an Ambulance for fast travelling from one place to another.

Hope it will convince all those maniacs who dont sleep much. Very Happy
wimvpetegem
More sleep causes that you will realize life better.
whatif
Hogwarts wrote:
I have a theory Idea . If you sleep less, you have more time to get more out of life (I suggest spending all your extra time on FriHost). But if you sleep less, you have less energy to live life. What are your opinions?



A bit of both. A healthy adult should sleep eight hours, not more and not less, a night.
Also, the main point is not to count the minutes, but to make the minutes count. (Sorry about this clichéd quote.) If you can do the most in the mornings, than go with early to bed, early to rise. (I personally think everyone should go according to that, but look who's talking... Wink) If you are always in a terrible mood in the morning, than stay up later, but not too late because it is not healthy. (There are certain hours in which you get the most out of your sleep.)
This question has bothered me for a long time, but let's get real. Who here really uses all his or her waking hours to the fullest that s/he is worried about the sleeping hours. If you are one of those people like a certain family member of mine who takes nearly an hour every morning to get ready (be squeaky clean, smell perfect, hair done to perfection, etc), don't say, "me." Smile
squirrelmaster
about splitting sleep,, could you not sleep at all, but take power naps every 2 hours for 30 min??? i havn't done it yet, but have you met someone who did this?
KernEnergie
I don't sleep much. I wish I could but I'm a bloody imsomniac. And I like to walk in the streets by night until one or two a.m Smile
Winterborne
Personally, I use to sleep about 4 hours a day and be fine. But that was before I was pregnant and jobless. Now i sleep about 12 hours a day on average before I can even get myself to move.

I think that if you get use to it, you'll eventually have as much energy as before. However, you're body does need that rest, your immune system can weaken with little sleep. I know, I've done it before and about ended up in the hospital.

Anyway, i'm not saying it's a bad idea, just be careful with it.
Tomppe
Sleep more and get more energy to your new day Razz
Stinger
Sleeping is an important part of your life, for example obviously to regain energy but more importantly your dreams, dreams help you deal with day to day problems and the humain brain would go compleltly psycho with out them
Tatsumaru
As an athlete I need my sleep very bad. The last 3 months I've been neglecting it due to school reasons (had to get up REALLY early) , but I'm done with it for now. The summer is my time to go full out on training, and 8+ hours of sleep is necessary for this. I can't function properly otherwise, I've already noticed a lack of concentration during my workouts the past few months.

So yeah, sleep is good Cool [/u]
Scott
I think a balance is best, nothing is black and white. I get very little sleep, I'm tired, I wish I got more, but I really enjoy staying up late. If I do sleep a lot I don't go to bed any earlier, I just sleep in.

pacslim
I do the same as you so i say sleep less to get more out off life !

Only advise drink mo red bull or be born hyperactive like me, ...

Wink Arrow
exarkun
It depends on individual. For me, I prefer less sleep. Sleep more lets me feel even more drowsy, which has no difference to whether i had slept or not. That is why i prefer to sleep less.
skullflower
I don't usually get a lot of sleep. If I sleep to much I tend to be very tired the next day. So I choose to get about 3-4 hours of sleep a night, and usually wake up feeling very happy, revitalized and hyper. This differs with everyone though. Some people need more sleep, and then there's people like me.
maclui
Sleep Less and you do less , sleep more and you will not do more. More sleep than needed si not helpful. 7 hours I think is enough
Vrythramax
this is s difficult one for me....I only sleep about 5 hours a night at the best of times, but when I get working on a new project I'll go sometimes days without sleep and end up having to redo 3/4th's of the work over again cuz I just can't concentrate without the little sleep I do get.

So I guess the only really logical choice would be to sleep more and get more out of life that way....at least you won't be rewritting 1,000 lines of code repeatedly Wink
charlo_blade123
uhhh summer is done.. so i guess having enough sleep is good..
or else you'll be LATE in class Laughing Laughing Laughing

also no knowledge will enter your Puny Brain Laughing Laughing Laughing

so to be good.. just follow my lead.. Laughing Laughing Laughing
The_Gamer294
trilogy456
sleep 8 hrs a day and get the best of both worlds
Samuel
In a way I get what your saying. Nice question.
gothicgeek
Sleep deprivation can take years, maybe even decades off your life. That should settle whether or not you get more time out of your life, whether or not more actual living is still up for debate. However, sleep is when your brain and body revitalize themselves. During sleep, your brain actually organizes the events and memories of the day, which, in my thinking, must vastly improve your long-term memory. Your body grows and heals fastest during sleep, I think the record for growth is one inch in a night.

The_Gamer294 wrote:
i cant remember if i posted in this topic or not

You need more sleep, lol.
uncle
I had a friend who had a job testing people's sleep for sleeping disorders. I think he said people have died from disorders not allowing their body to sleep.
Whong
Sleep is very very important and vital for our bodies to function. But the thing is that everyone has a certain amount of time they need to sleep. Some people need 5 hours, I need 8-10 hours and some even more. But we should still try to sleep only what is a must. Of course you can sometimes sleep really long and enjoy yourself, but don't make it a habbit. My friends go to sleep around midnight and wake up around midday when they're on a vacation. I've made it a habbit that though I'm on a vacation I'll go to sleep around 11 pm and wake up around 8 am.

Sleep to live, but don't live to sleep!!! Wink Idea
sugarbox
Hogwarts wrote:
I have a theory Idea . If you sleep less, you have more time to get more out of life (I suggest spending all your extra time on FriHost). But if you sleep less, you have less energy to live life. What are your opinions?


I do think so. It can make us have more time to seek to our life.
Ka7raK
If you could sleep less, that would be great. However, if you decide to sleep less continuosly, you'll notice that your body takes longer to respond. The reason is very simple: when you sleep, your body produces some type of thing (i don't know what is called) that regenerates your muscles and brain. That's sleep most important function. Of course that everybody loves sleeping a few extra hours at Sunday. Then again, it's your body telling your mind that regeneration is needed.

Another problem of sleeping less, is your mind. While your body suffers from lack of regeneration, your mind gets stupid. If you sleep 6 hours (i hope you sleep on a 8-hours basis) your mind will start to function in the wrong way. Shame on you
The main problem is that, while you sleep, your mind "compiles" stuff. If you decide about sleeping less and less time, it's like if you're using Windows without running Defrag for one year. Sure it takes a lot of time for the program to come to an end but it's worth the time.
In extremis, if you don't sleep at all, after a few days (usually 5) your mind is completely damaged. It doesn't mean that your brain has lost a part but you'll start with illusions and, probably, it will be like dreaming while awake. Then again, that's your body (this time it's your mind) calling out for sleep.

Overall, i'd love to have twice the time i have. My holidays are short, my free time is being reduced and when i start working i'll have even less time and i'll want to sleep more because i'll be forced to wake up early in the morning. Sleep less sounds cool but you'll soon notice that it's not the best option. Most of the days i sleep 7/8 hours. The first time i slept 4 hours, i'd been working on a school project till 3AM. When i woke up at 7AM, it all sounded fine, but when i needed to think, my mind would just say "yeah, right..." or "go get some sleep and we'll talk later".

WARNING: Don't sleep less!! It hurts you. A lot...
xeszline
I chose less sleep.

What's important on sleeping is that everybody needs sleep but sleep affects individual differently. My lecturer once told my class that sleeping even only 4 hours can be enough and refreshing as long as the person is accustomed to it. And people who has 7 to 12 hours of sleep doesn't necessarily mean that they had a good sleep. It depends to the REM phase.
Even if you only sleep around 4-5 hours but if your REM phase was covered sufficiently, you don't get stressed and in fact you feel refreshed. You can do a lot of things quickly and more things covered so you could save a lot of time for so many things.
But if you slept for I don't know how long, it's confusing sometimes that you woke up and you feel uneasy. Maybe, I think, it's also because the REM phase wasn't covered.
I often felt that way until I changed my sleep rhythm from night to noon. After class I usually slept about 4 hours and then I didn't sleep again till the next morning.
Spe_eddy
I know that if i dont sleep much i get really moody and shout at everyone and always think i'm right, but that could be because i'm a teenager - and its usually at my parents. It also gives you bags under your eyes if you don't sleep much, i also hate the feeling of waking up early withouht enough sleep - i have to have 8.5-10 hours or i feel crap (but only for the morning)
zjosie729
I think you should sleep more. If you sleep more, you get more energy, and you feel more wake, so you can do things faster and get more done. You may have a lot of time if you don't sleep a lot but you'll always be sleepy and can't accomplish much. So I think sleeping more helps.
CMA
I always thought that days aren't long enough and people need too much sleep. How many times did you find yourself running out of time for completing a project or realizing that sometimes time just runs too fast? I have. And it annoys me...

...Okay, emo crap apart... It's true that some people need less sleep than others... Some years ago I always slept around 10 hours a day, but now I only sleep around between 5 and 7 hours, and I don't feel particularly tired, mentally/physically limited or anything. It's all a matter of getting used to it.
SFMeatwad
tidruG wrote:
Sleep more.
This refreshes your mind and body.
Prioritize what it is that you really need to do.
An extra hour of sleep gives you enough enerfy to do work faster, meaning what you would have done in 6 hours had you slept for 1 hour less can be done in ...say...4.5 hours had you got that extra sleep in... a refreshed body and mind gives you higher efficiency.


Agreed
secret_soul
Sleep more. I think that getting the most out of life is about enjoying it and having a great time no matter what is thrown your way. Sleep deprivation generally causes bad moods, stress and upset because your body and mind need to rest. I, myself, cannot enjoy myself when I haven't had enough sleep and therefore would not be making the most out of my life.
solarwind
Sleep more.
solarwind
HoboPelican wrote:
aerialdreams wrote:
People actually need a lot more sleep than they think. I saw a research in a book that said that a common misconception about sleep is that people need 8 hours of sleep. In reality, people need 10 hours of sleep to get optimum energy and focus. Most people live their entire life sleep-deprived, and they don't actually know what it is like to be truly awake and focused... it was an interesting article^_^


I remember a study were the subjects were confined to a totally enclosed environment (only artificial lights that they controlled) and allowed to set their own sleep/wake schedule. If I remember right, it averaged at about 8.5 hours per 24 hour period. Don't have the citation handy, but if anyone cares, I can try to find it.

Aerial, do you remember were you saw that research?



Can you find it? Please?
sibbahz
When i had to get up early each day, i was only getting around 5 hours of sleep, and feeling awful in the mornings.
Now i dont have to get up in the mornings, i wake up around 9:30 and keep falling asleep again. When i go to get up i feel awful, even know ive had around 10 hours sleep.
I dont seem to be able to feel awake... ever.
Early nights dont help unless ive had a very active day and are too tired to stay awake any longer.
bdoneck
You need an option for sleep the same amount

Sleeping does consume a great portion of your life, but there is nothing that can be done about it. I personally love sleeping, but at the same time I don't like sleeping in too late because then there is no time to do anything.

I have tried to beat the sleep system before but all it got me was a bad headache and a twiching eye from a lack of sleep. It's a natural thing that we can't get rid of and will die if we try
s43ros
Sleep more, you can get things out of life even while your sleeping, such as ideas for awesome stuff to do while your awake.
freakinlame
The more you sleep, the more lazy you become. Have you ever wake up feeling like you want to cotinue sleeping eventhough you have class or have to go to work half an hour later? This is because when we sleep, our body is put to rest, minimal body metabolism. When we wake up, the rate of meatbolism slowly increases. A study I read told me that when we are awake, the time that we feel most sleepy is from 12-1 pm. Do you feel the same?If you sleep more, yes, you will have less time for daily activities. But, if you sleep less, you will feel weak and not having the strength to do any work. So, its rather 50-50 I might say. But, I would go for less but sufficient sleep according to individual's preference. Smile
Tac-Tics
Early to bed is the way to go. To have energy in the morning when no one else is awake. There are no distractions and you are much more productive.
Pensuke
The way I see it, whenever you stay up later in order to make more time, you borrow that time from the end of your life. So I guess you life gets shorter, I guess.

...But that sadly never stops me from getting two hours of sleep every night.
Tiger
You need to be balanced and not sleep too much or sleep too little. So anywhere from 6 to 8 hours a night is normal for most people. Apparently the more hours before midnight the better.

Several studies over the years have shown that too little sleep has a very bad effect on health. In fact, if you have been without sleep for 24 hours, you will behave worse than someone who has been drinking. A test was done where one participant went without sleep for 24 hours, and another got legally drunk. They then raced around a track and had to avoid road cones. The drunk guy won and knocked over less cones. (NO! You shouldn't drink and drive!).

Also, as you get older, the less you sleep apparently, so 4 to 6 hours may be normal for older people. Good for those who plan to enjoy life when they retire - a lot to look forward to - there's so much to do when you retire!

Finally, all those gamers who have died play for 2 or 3 days with no sleep, or a month on little sleep, are more than enough proof that insufficient sleep (when using your brain), can be fatal.

So, I'd say: Early to bed, early to rise, makes you healthy, wealthy and wise! It's all in the time management!
LostOverThere
Sleep More.

Why? You have more energy, you can work quickly and efficiently, thus getting the job done more quick, aswell you'll have done a good job of it, and you'll have made up the time you lost sleeping in no time.

Plus you feel better.
kieranleighton
Sleep more. not that many fun things to do between 12-6 in the morning. So stilll going to experiance life the same
codenameshypher
first of all we all know that sleep if somehow "required" for a healthy mind and body. but the period of time needed for recreation is determined of the main cause of the need to sleep. in other words our job determines the quantity of time, for example a fizical worker will need more sleep time to recreate his body more than his mind, while a scientist thinks otherwhise. it is well known that during a normal sleep time of 8 hours we only dream 10-15 mins. while the biggest time potential is used by our body. therefore if we work fizically it is better to have a resting time longer than 8 hours but not more that 10 while working intelectually we can adapt to a system that requires only 4-5 hours oh sleep er day. of course it takes time to train ourselves but it is worth it. i would also advise to have a rest of only 15 mins instead of 2-3 hours. because mind will homehow "recharge" while the body (in 2-3hours) will only try to begin its off seesion, ofcourse with no results. therefore sleep lesser and lesser in roder to increase the longetivity of our cotidian acting time.
nilsmo
If you sleep less each day, the sleep loss, and its effects will accumulate. Sleeping less regularly obviously is useless... However, on an important night, you can sleep less Smile
phileplanet
When you sleep, your brain has a chance to organize the thoughts of that day. If you have a lack of sleep, you will feel paranoid because there are uncategorized thoughts in your mind. In other words, sleep or else Shocked.
bladesage
Sleep is an important part of life. Losing sleep, you cheat your body of its only true method of restoring energy. Sleep, once lost, can NEVER be regained in your entire life. Despite popular belief, this could not be more true, though it may seem like it can be.

Sleep depravation takes a toll on your mind and body, one that cannot be made up for with stimulants, "energy" drinks, cold showers, or ANYTHING. Deny it all you want, but this will always be true. Really think it through, and perhaps you'll see.
SusieSmacktard
For me, I would choose to sleep more, because I am totally useless unless I am rested. I can't focus, have no energy, and all I think about is sleep. The longest I have gone without sleep is 31 hours. By the end, I was hallucinating, which is not good when you are driving. Shocked
Darren
The Conspirator wrote:
Less sleep = more stress= all the crap that comes with stress.


HERE HERE!!!!!!
Balthamos
Well, there is too outlooks to this. The first one is that you stay up really late, then sleep through half the day. You are getting a lot of the night, but none of the day, but you sleep a lot.

Another take is that you sleep a maximum of 6-8 hours and live coffee. Some prefer this, but I like my sleep better Smile

~Balthamos
OtakuBoi
Personally, I feel when I have a lot of sleep (14 hrs. +) Then have an energy drink... Those days however tend to be the ones that I wake up at 4PM, giving me no time to do daylight activities...

But I don't mind, there are ways to fix it, go to bed at 4PM instead of waking up at 4PM, etc.

This whole year I've been going to bed around 3AM and waking up at 5:30AM

2.5 hours of sleep a day does make for a very fun time, trust me, I'd sleep more If I had time Wink
borud
I sleep as much as I can. I love sleeping, it's so relaxing Razz Idea
eliasr
I think you should sleepe more, because the human body is not made to could work without rest.
EX: you can be tired, and try reading, but you wont get a shit of what it says, and you will probetly have forgot what there did stand the next day

also, you should sleepe at nigh, because the human body produce a antidote against cancer in the night, i think it was chest cancer, not sure i dont know why it's in the night, probetly because the body is to stupid to make it when the sun shines

when you got alot of energy, then would your brain be acive, and you will get expirence of what you make, and see

however, do your brain "sleepe" then will you not expirence everything, like being drunk( i still remeber my last schoolday on a chair, then the table, then the bed, then up 4 hours later, and no headache :S ) you normaly hear people don't remeber everything, and woudent it be a shame if you was a man, and was so tired, that you did fall asleepe and not expirenced being raped by a verry hot woman Razz no offence to any one, haha
iskanderbenamor
I wish I didnt have to ever sleep! It is such a waste of time! Imagine how great life would be with twice the time! But I suppose if society was built on the fact humans didnt need to sleep we'd probably have WAY longer work days... yikes... maybe I do like sleep?
sarahmansour
twice the time? (to do stuff)
I don't know, I don't sleep for 12 hours! But I have stayed up nights on a few occasions and trust me, all that time makes you get bored. It's cool to watch the night unfold though.
I think life is long enough and sleep is good if not for anything else (obviously physical and mental rest and stuff) then at least to create a different (dream) world to exist in and contrast with waking hours.
Sleep is worth it just for dreaming, in my opinion.
But sleeping too much, for some reason, makes me very tired.
izcool
Here's my theory. Be awake as much as you can in your younger years, as you'll be sleeping more and more as you grow older (especially when you're in a nursing home sleeping all the time). I'd much rathar be living my life when I'm young and fit than when I'm old and weak.

- Mike.
hadar20
Less Sleep = More Playing online games for me!
mercurial
slp ADEQUATE..like ard 8hours enough alrdy. den spend the rest of ur day AWAKE.. no point slping that long coz it makes u feel more tired..slp less n it makes u as tired too. -.-
We r the SYC
hadar20 wrote:
Less Sleep = More Playing online games for me!


Definetly second a nd third that!!!! Very Happy Very Happy

Amen!
saveexclusive
Well, one should know what the true answer to this questions should be!!! Sleep more. Sleep More, simply because sleep is good for the mind and body; without sleep one couldn't function correctly. However, Im not really sure, but I think it is said that Einstein only slept 3-4 hours a day...and he was a genius.
fofoo
Sleep more or sleep less and drink coffe.
killj0y
Hmmm...
I think I would disagree with SocratesX on this one, apart from the fact that you don't have the proof, it is quite obvious to me that, EVEN IF you live longer, you live more if you spend more time awake....
Personally I would think that in this day and age people should be getting just 7 or 8 hours sleep.BTW, for all you people out there who might retort that I am stupid this is merely my opinion.
SpellcasterDX
I think sleep more to get more out of life makes more sense. Sleep refreshes your mind and re-energizes your body. You can be well-rested to have more fun and do more things in a day. Sleep is good for you.
greenwoodmonkey
Life is like a dwarf on drugs.... very short but great fun!

Don't get me wrong, I love my bed, I could spend hours there, but rest assured I don't want to sleep....

I have had my periods of self induced narcolepsy, I have slept at work, on the toilet, even on a park bench, but life is for living and sleep just takes away precious hours.. with only 24 hours in a day why would you want to work for 8 of them (plus maybe 2 hours a day if you're a commuter) and sleep for 8 of them leaving around 6 hours for other activities....

Sleep when you're dead is my motto, live for the moment and grab a power nap when you can otherwise you will reach your dotage and find that you have slept a third of your life away and only given yourself enough time to pull on your slippers before you bite the big one and take the biggest nap of all.......
looksbad
Sleep less get more.. i reacon.. Stay Up Do some stuff and live dont spend all your life snoozing your ass off.. I think you should stay out late and do what you want and have fun.. Sleeping wastes time. - wastes time Designing- Wastes time Owning noobs.. so i think sleeping less is much much better you justget more out of it.
Coclus
I have to sleep a lot to be fully active. But the most important thing is that I can sleep as long as I can in the morning. I'm fit if I get to bed very late and stand up very late, but 6 a.m. is really a deathly thing:)) As a result the weekends are my "loading station". But on the other hand you can get used to everything.
kam311
I've tried the whole not sleeping thing during tough college courses and projects. It really takes it's toll. When you get the adequate amount of sleep, you can be more efficient and productive, as opposed to being tired and sleep-deprived during those extra hours when you could be sleeping.
cfackler
I think you should sleep more. When I sleep less (doing a project or schoolwork) I feel dead teh next day. I'm unable to concentrate and constantly yawning. I think you can definitely get more out of life by sleeping more and being awake to enjoy life.
xeroed
Its all about balance... for the most part I can function on little sleep for awhile and I just catch up on it all sometime later on in the week... you just need to have enough sleep to be able to live life to its fullest...

I also think alot of it has to do with knowing WHEN to sleep... so like, you sleep when things that aren't as important are going on... like... the day
paul_indo
Different people definitely require diferent amounts of sleep.
When we were young my brother would sleep only five to six hours a night, whereas I needed 8 hours. The extra time he spent reading every night.

Finding what is a suitable amount of sleep for yourself is the important thing. I still need 8 hours a night generaly, but i can function fine for 48 hours with no sleep if I need to, or for a few days with four or five hours sleep. I cannot keep doing that constantly though, only for a few days, then back to 8 hours a night.

One thing to remember , to much sleep will make you more tired and lazy than a suitable amount. I don't believe anyone needs more than nine hours sleep, except for someone with a medical condition.
If you are spending more than nine hours a day in bed you are lazy. Smile
Or your girlfriend is really Hot. Smile
Lamirande
Your brain starts to not function properly!

I work from home and its 1am and Im still working. My eyes hurt, my brain hurts.. and the fact I had a bit of caffein is not helping cause im like shaking lol.

So yea, it retrospect... sleep at least 8 hours and dont stay on the comp too late or you start going crazzzy
mafia3
There is no exact time frame...it all changes from person to person...some might need only 5 hours of sleep...some may need 7 and some even 9...
its up to you to fing out how much you need and sleep accordingly. If you sleep more or less, your day will be less energetic and you will be less productive.

Also, a brisk morning walk is very good for health and will help you remain active throughout the day... Cool
mstreet
I think there should be a good balance. I find that when people don't get enough sleep they end up addicted to caffeine or red bull. Mind you they usually have unusual amounts of energy during the day.
I think that one needs at least 6 consecutive hours of sleep a day.
Yazz
I personally don't need that much sleep, and if I sleep more than I need to (like I wake up and then roll over and snuggle back into my pillow) then I'll be tired for most of the day, less I get my heart pumping, but I'm too lazy for that.

I agree with the stages of sleeping. I fall straight into the deepest sleep zone, it's just something I've always done. Also, I'm one of those people who can fall asleep in the middle of armageddon. I have an odd internal clock which actually wakes me up at a time I conciously set before I go to sleep. And it doesn't matter how much sleep I got, I'll wake up.
Dj_honorio
Well, one thing i can tell...

If i spend a lot of nights without sleeping enough... I start to look tired...

If i spend too much time sleeping... i look tired too...

So, i don't sleep as much as i actually need to... after all.. it's the same... lol..
DecayClan
Oversleeping doesn't refresh you.It only makes you worse.
By sleeping less, you don't get more time, cause probably, you willdie a lot younger...
Sleep about 7-8 hours a day, (6min).Less will be just a stupidity, and you will not manage to keep it up for long...
eku53ru
From my own personal experience, sleeping too much stinks 'cause you actually feel restless throughout the day. A friend once asked me if I was so refreshed to the point where I was too tired to sleep.

Sleeping too little does no good - even if you find that you've got more hours in a day thanks to staying awake, you'll find the next day even shorter 'cause you'll have overslept thanks to exhaustion. That's the thing I hate about sleeping - although you regenerate in a sense, not getting the perfect amount harms you.
darth_pyro
I think that you should sleep a little more, because then you get to enjoy the things you do more, and you get more out of life.
Linda_B
I definitely voted sleep more. Now I don't exactly follow what I believe, because I generally am more active at night, but I know that the times that I do sleep regularly and for my necessary hours, I actually do feel a lot better during the days. I enjoy the days more and I get more done, so I would say sleep more and use the time that is left well instead of dragging yourself through the long hours you otherwise have. Don't exist, live I guess.
SgtGarcia
Sleeping to much really is a waste of time, but sleeping not enough isnt good also. I think it is good to sleep just enough. No waste of time in bed, but enough energy to make most out of life. But its different for everyone
kiranaghor
More sleep works wonders for me. If i could not get adequate sleep then next day is ruined.
And I can't think of myself working straight hours without sleeping and I dont think anybody got most outta his life coz he avoided sleeping.
Sleep is necessary to arise n awake. May be thats why there are pics of sleeping Buddha...
avk
I think that

Less Sleep ---- Lot's of Stress
More sleep ---- More laziness.

So Be balanced yaar!
marioflory
When I sleep less than 8 hours a day, I am tired for doing anything. So I believe that I don't get as much out of m life as I do in less time but with all my force. Being and acting relaxed makes me happier than being in stress and rushing from one corner to the next.
But whatever... get as much out of your lives as you can... do crazy things, LIFE!!
photon
i never like to miss my sleep for anything. no matter what happens, i need at least 7 hours of undisturbed sleep a day. and it makes me fresh, so i can give the next day my best short. skipping my sleep, and working the next day only decreases my effeciency
lukeropro
If you sleep less, you'll be too tired to do anything so you should sleep more. I sleep at least 7 hours a day. If I don't, I'll be lethargic for the rest of the day...
indeedwrestling
Have you heard about one-second naps?

http://goalsuccess.typepad.com/goaltips/2006/06/tapping_your_su.html

The theory is that you briefly go into your subconscious, and wake yourself up almost immediately in order to tap into ideas that sleep helps generate. I have no idea if it really works but they claim it's the sort of thing Thomas Edison would do!
Josso
I personally beleive that a bit of both is good to be honest. Sometimes if there's no serious work to be done and there's no serious dis-advantage I'll get very little sleep just to get more stuff done that I need done myself. I hate sleeping past mid-day and avoid it as often as possible... I feel that the day has been wasted.

I do like my sleep though. You feel very refreshed after 10+hours of sleep and is good to do it especially after some "long" weeks.
giorockstarr
sleep is gooood
Zaini
Life is too short to be sleeping. I've got soo much to do, so little time. Who are we to say that we will live tomorrow ? Get as much from live as possible.. We can always sleep later
Zaini
But in life, we do need our sleep. It is a dilemma. I do not have enough time in a day to do everything I want to do but I can't go on waking up. I'll look and feel like zombie. My brain will shut down... and can't think straight without enough rest aka sleeping.
ashen
I prefer to sleep more because I need at least 7 hours to refresh myself.

But I think sleep to much is not healthy too...
Jomhuri_Eslami
I sometimes sleep really late, thinking that I don't want to waste my night, but then I usually get up around 1PM or later, and I feel really bad physically, expecially for the first few hours I am awake. I find it is best to sleep abit earlier, and wake up really early. I really like mornings, and it is a shame to waste them. Plus, when I wake up earlier, I always have more enrgy in the day, and become tired at the end of the day (which then becomes a loop of getting up early and sleeping earlier then usual).

Best thing to to is Sleep early and Wake up early, In my opinion.
moejoe
Yep,
Everyone has a different body and body clock. Some get a kick out of having little to no sleep, while some find the full effect of not having the 7.5 hours recommended sleep every night.

I believe:
You have plenty of time to sleep when your dead

Smile

Still, Sleep...Very Important.
Tasa
This was a story arch in a early real life comic (http://www.reallifecomics.com/). Greg figured he get decades more life to live if he slept less. He passed out in the kitchen so fast that Tony didn't get a chance to tell him how stupid he was.

As to what I think I think that people have let life get in the way of important things like family and sleep. Take me for example I have to be up in 4 hours and I here posting on frihost and redesign my website. Not because I need to but real life has gotten in the way and I am behind on some things that I wanted to get done, so sleep suffers
sub-zero
Hogwarts wrote:
I have a theory Idea . If you sleep less, you have more time to get more out of life (I suggest spending all your extra time on FriHost). But if you sleep less, you have less energy to live life. What are your opinions?


really good idea lol i dont sleep much just plan awake close to 24/7 lol

i have bad sleeps at night and day so i stay awake makes me happy
Shin
Good post!

I have actually thought of this question before. There was a period of time when I hate things like sleeping and other stuff like bathing, eating, etc, because they use most of our time. All these activities could easily take out half of our day. So that's 50% of our life is spending on cleaning ourself, sleeping and things like that.

However, we can't really get away of not doing them. Which is why I said I hate those things. It's a dilemma. becase all these things are considered the enjoyment of life too, like eating and sleeping.

To sleep more or to sleep less, that's the question! Smile It's a difficult one indeed. At some point I come to a conclusion that. It's just a matter of choice. I think people who sleep less has shorter life. because their bodies have to cope with more stress and have less time to recover or recharged. However, the total amount of time that your are not sleeping in your whole life is the same. I guess everything even themself out over a period of time. It's always fair. Smile

Therefore it depends on whether you think "Now" is more important or the "Future". You can get more things done when you are younger and have more energy. But on the other you can see more things if you live longer. My choice is "moderation", not too much, not too less. There is no point to do so many things if you can't live long enough to see the result. And there is also no point to live too long if you have no enough energy to process the information you get.
zamolxes
I usually sleep around 8 hours, that's my biological clock, but I know that as I'll get older it will change. Old people don't need as much sleep, it seems... not taht it's a good thing, maybe that's why we die Very Happy we sleep less and less until we stop sleeping, and then we die Very Happy

Also, I'm a leo, and just like my brothers in the savannah (lions sleep a lot, 20-22 hours a day!!! now that's sleeping baby, big time!!!) I love, adore, worship my sleep Smile Sleeping time is healthy time, since your body regenerates from the unhealthy activities you do all day Smile Well, maybe that's an exaggeration, because an active life is very healthy for example. But an active life without enough sleep is very unhealthy... that's what I think. Balance.
thiamshui
Sleep less to get more out of life.. For example, if u are on a holiday in a foreign country, u hav gotta sleep less to experience the life there more.. Even in your own country, by sleeping less, you can spend more time doing meaningful things.. However, if u really do not have any meaningful things to do, it won't hurt to sleep more.. Smile
Ichilla
Sleep less to expirence more and get more out of life but you can also sleep more and expirence less than more but i want to

Sleep less than Sleep more because its funnyr to expirence...
andy26
hey i like the sleep theroy i am writing to the write blog arent i errm o well but nice thery i belive if u go to bed early and wake up early u get more out of life i hope this was sort of useful.
andy26
does any one know how u can see how many points u hav in confuesd
and it turns out i did send my last sleep thery post.
prototype_angel
well, sleep is sometimes touted to be the biggest evolutionary mistake ever. Contrary to popular belief, people don't regain energy when they sleep. Philosophically looking at it, Nature tries to attain lowest potential, leading to stars, galaxies and gravity. When your mind is switched off, you use up least blood, but that doesen't mean you gain more energy. As humans, we are gifted with the ability to go and do more than what's required for survival, this is why we are so advanced compared to other animals who sleep a lot more.
I sleep very little, personaly it's five in the morning here, and i'm still awake. But my sleep cycle has been a little skewed. Some people i know get four hours for a few months and are still allright.

The amount of sleep you get is more a psychological thing. You 'feel' rested after sleeping more. Sleeping three hours could have the same efect but you go like 'man, i slept only three hours'
JOE IV
Well.. SLeepin puts your body into another world I think. So your living but in a way. But if I could live without sleeping I would smoke all day and night!
carolinehjkim
it depends on the age
if you are baby~20 you always should have at least 7.5 hours of sleep.
the more the better
after that.
it's still better to have more sleep
but it's not necessary.
munkey_boy
*Friday Night: Stay up till' I'm tired (usally 1-1:30am)
*Saturday Morning: Sleep till' 11:00 am
*Saturday Night: Stay up till' I fell tired
*Sunday Morning: Sleep till' I wake up
*Sunday Night: Stay up till' 10:00 pm
*Monday Morning: Sleep till' 6:30 am

Friday i am usally tired from the whole week of waking up early and school.
Saturday Ive usally slept it all off.
And the rest explains its self. Stupid school.

Evil or Very Mad <------ Thats what i look like on Monday morning. Razz
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sumangurung
I have contemplated this point quite a lot and this forum has a really vast collection of genuine ideas. Really impressed!!!
Well, my view is you sleep two times a day. One is during the night that would be around 6 hours and one after lunch, around 1 to 2 hours. Well, i used to do that in college and i really thought that was the best.
But now i am working and i dont get to sleep in the afternoon and i feel it is really affecting my efficiency. I would be trying to stay awake which is quite a lot of effort and working this way has a lot of negative effects. I cant concentrate and cant do any proper functions of the brain Wink
Saryon
I don't think that there's really an answer to this question.
2 possibilities:
- you sleep more, so you're more rested, and can concentrate better => everything goes faster.

- you sleep less, and you're less rested. You can't really focus on things => everything goes slower.

So I think something between less and more would be the best Very Happy
Insanity
If you don't sleep enough, sure you get more time out of your day, but you would spend it all groggly and stuff. I wouldn't say it's really worth it. Plus, I'm pretty sure sleeping less has a negative effect on your health, and thus can probably shorten your life span. Something to think about.
HoboPelican
Insanity wrote:
If you don't sleep enough, sure you get more time out of your day, but you would spend it all groggly and stuff.

<rant>
Your not reading the posts. There are those of us who feel groggy when we get too much sleep. For, me 4-6 hours makes me feel most alert. I think what you wanted to say was that if YOU got less than you get now, YOU'd feel groggy. Don't apply you experience to all of humanity. Wink

Come on, guys, can't we just admit that everyone has different sleep needs? It's obvious if you don't sleep at all, you are going to have health issues. That is documented in many places and is just obvious. It's also true that if you sleep 24 hours out of the day, you are not going to be very productive.
I also know that there is a human average for best performance, but it's just an average, right? There is nothing wrong saying that "I need X hours to feel good", but to apply that to everyone is just silly.
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@sumangurung - Good thought. And the siesta is a great solution to that. To bad most countries see that as non-productive. I think I even remember reading that humans have a natural tendency for being drowsy in the afternoon (just a memory, no citation for it).
pctech
Shoot,

If I could, I would sleep all day! I just like to sleep and I am not a morning person. Yet, I have to get up early for work. I hate it. I hope I can get switched to nights.
RhysAndrews
Sleep Less and get a few more hours out of the day; in which you won't want to do much as you're tired... feeling crappy and tired most of the day.

Or sleep more and feel alive throughout the day, happy, etc.
mavahntooth
I want to sleep more. but i cant... i lay down on bed early and sleep late... Crying or Very sad
venus flytrap
by sleeping less, how do you get more out of life Question
Aredon
I strongly disagree, proven by countless sleep studies world wide. People are more irritable and confused when they don't get sleep. Sleep is a time for the brain to sort out everything it has witnessed during the day. When you interupt that or don't give enough time for it to happen. You both cause fatigue on yourself, and take slight steps toward minor levels of insanity. Not to mention your ability to handle stress is greatly diminished, making you harder to get along with. To get the most out of life we need relationships with other people, hard to do that when you are pissy/tired/insane Wink
HoboPelican
Aredon wrote:
I strongly disagree, proven by countless sleep studies world wide....


Do they say that everyone needs exactly 8.57 hours of sleep? I doubt, it. You don't quote the studies, so I cant check, but I bet they show that different individuals need different amounts of sleep. I think what we are saying is that maybe some of us sleep more than we need. Try sleeping less than you normally do and see how you feel. Still doing good? Try less. Feel groggy, get a bit more.

Why? If you are sleeping 8 hours and you find you only need 7, that's an hour a day you can use to get more out of life. Read, run, code, clean, your choice.
j0zman
I've read that if you don't have enough sleep, you can die at an earlier age than when you do sleep enough. The mind and body needs rest to recharge for that you are going to do the day after.
GrieverCRO
heh.... but i really do more stuff when im awake all night... and to keep mi awake i drink coffee, or even better red bull. man i couldnt sleep after drinkin that even if i wanted to. plus it kinda gives you energy.
Farhad
I remember reading somewhere that sleep basically takes up around 1/3rd of your life or something. However it is very very important, as mentioned above it refreshes your mind. I remember also reading a book about how sleep and dreams actually act as data filteration systems to allow you to make sense of situations and so on... thats where the saying of "Sleep on it" comes from.
Surreal Killa
I seldom sleep. Mainly due to stress and insomnia, but also because of this getting more out of life theory. Apparently most people spend more time sleeping than they do being awake, and when added up mathematically humans are asleep for more than half of their life.
jellepellee
I Like sleeping! so more sleeping!
sharp
Ok my theory has always been to sleep less, the way I figure is theres more than enough time to sleep when you die, so save it all for then. Now tell me exactly how you can obtain moire out of life when all you do is sleep, life passes you by. I have not long ago dated a girl when I was in England and all she did was sleep, I obviously did not and so while she was asleep I went out to the towns and had a wonderful time. The girl I am with now doesnt sleep like the previous and the times are that much better, considering the time is shared, the things we see and do are tremendus and wouldnt give it up for the world.

Granted late at night I stray awake ( I sleep about 4-6 hours MAX) and surf the big WWW, I learn from alot of my searches, mostly stumble upon.

Live now, sleep later
Shake
I say do what you need to do to stay alive, but have fun with your life in the process. You can't force yourself to stay awake, after all. Sleeping is a natural process that cannot be bypassed in any way. You have to get at least 8 hours of sleep at night. That should be enough for anyone, and you should be able to live a great life during the daytime.
airek
I feel that the more you sleep. The more life you waste. I know that especially int he summer time i sleep in untill like one in the afternoon. I feel liek the days are soo much shorter because of that(they are). My summer goes by so much faster because i sleep in and before i knwo it its time to go bck to school. Ive tried so many times to sleep in less and to wake up earlier but its so hard. I guess im mroe of a nocternal type of guy because i can never sleep at night and im always uyp really late. (probably why i cant wake up) So i have a problem. But yea definately more you sleep= more life wasted
ChrisCh
Insanity wrote:
If you don't sleep enough, sure you get more time out of your day, but you would spend it all groggly and stuff. I wouldn't say it's really worth it. Plus, I'm pretty sure sleeping less has a negative effect on your health, and thus can probably shorten your life span. Something to think about.

It has actually been scientifically proven that if you do not sleep for 7-8 hours per day, you can reduce your life expectancy by up to 2 months. This applies when you sleep to much (because your body is inactive for too long), or if you sleep too little (body does not have enough time to fully carry out processes during sleep).

Smile
dacopenhagen
i agree
hunnyhiteshseth
sharp wrote:
Ok my theory has always been to sleep less, the way I figure is theres more than enough time to sleep when you die, so save it all for then. Now tell me exactly how you can obtain moire out of life when all you do is sleep, life passes you by. I have not long ago dated a girl when I was in England and all she did was sleep, I obviously did not and so while she was asleep I went out to the towns and had a wonderful time. The girl I am with now doesnt sleep like the previous and the times are that much better, considering the time is shared, the things we see and do are tremendus and wouldnt give it up for the world.

Granted late at night I stray awake ( I sleep about 4-6 hours MAX) and surf the big WWW, I learn from alot of my searches, mostly stumble upon.

Live now, sleep later


Yes, there is more enough time when you die but the main question is why you want to die.
To explain this let me take an example of computers, suppose you have a processor that can run for 15yrs normally. But if you will over-clock it, i.e. if you will demand more from it, it will get damaged within 5yrs. The same is with our body.

Talking about your girl, do you mean your previous girl didnt slept with you?
HoboPelican
ChrisCh wrote:
It has actually been scientifically proven that if you do not sleep for 7-8 hours per day, you can reduce your life expectancy by up to 2 months.

Please don't take offense, but that sounds pretty fishy. "Up to 2 months"? Unless you were joking, I would love to see a link to THAT research.
gmstyle
sleep more, I'm living when I'm sleeping too Laughing
sharp
You can train your body to do what you want... some people cannot stay out doors in harsh desert winds without falling apart, physically. Some people can do it for weeks on end. Same with sleep, I have trained my body to not need as much sleep and I am quite healthy and energetic. I have loads of life left in me unfortunately. How about a runner-processor- who runs constantly, daily and for miles and miles-overclocking?- and the next is someone who walks 1 mile daily, takes him an hour to do it. I will bet the runner doesnt shorten his life span due to his running.

Granted somebodies cannot be trained, as we are all different. But none the less you CAN train yourself to deal with anything. Unless you have trained yourself already to be a puss.... than its too late
Da Rossa
I didn't read the posts, only the question, and as for me, it is just silly to sleep less than your body needs aiming "live more". If you sleep less, you'll certainly wake up with bad humor. The first tasks in the morning will not be done perfectly and people around you may get upset. You loose "energy" in the afternoon, after lunch in particular. Practising fit exercises after a misslept night is a certainity of less performance and easy muscle pains. The thinking will also be affected, in the evening in special, as you're likely to get a headache. The humor will not improve along the hours unless something VERY good hapens, I mean.. your wife/girlfriend says that the baby you're 2 expecting is the sex you wanted. Or else you learn that you got a promotion.
Then, the joy moments along the day will seem to be shorter than in that day you slept properly.
So... unless you're one of the blessed ones that are satisfied with 6 hours a day, it's not a good idea to sleep less than 8, in my opinion.
Soltair
I voted for sleeping less, but I wouldn't truly support this option... but sleep more, I will never do that! I naturally sleep little, and enjoy the time I am awake without being tired with about 6h sleep a night. I can't understand people that sleep 10-12h a day! Confused
XSTG
I say: Sleep less... (French proverb: The future is to those who awake early)

Why sleeping? It's so DULL! Come on. I'm up each morning at 5 o'clock and I'm perfectly correct for all the day. Could sleep 5 hours I wouldn't care.
vlnjodie
I love sleep! I don't think you miss out by sleeping. I just sleep the amount I need to and then work it out from there. I'm more of a night person, but I have gotten in the habit of going to bed pretty early.
theLOGANhole
Hogwarts wrote:
I have a theory Idea . If you sleep less, you have more time to get more out of life (


I used to think totally like that. I was never sleeping I would work during the night and other nights I used to study...after 2 weeks of depriving my body with little sleep around 3 hours a night. I crashed and slept almost 20 hours straight. I woke up ate went to the washroom and slept another 12 hours.

Within those 2 weeks I found myself always angry ready to explode at anyone, and I wasn't able to keep focus on anything.

I stopped it right away. It made life harder....That's my experiement.

Now my current problem is I sleep to much...and I notice myself sleeping 9 hours and I'm still tired. Sometimes I sleep so much it ruins my whole day.

So now I have another problem...but I will soon fix it by using a 5.1 Surround System to wake me up every morning. I hope it works...
spoon1985
Does it matter when you sleep, as well as for how long? I always remember people saying that an hour before midnight was worth 2 after, or something. Probably rubbish but maybe there's some truth in going to sleep earlier and waking up earlier.

Or perhaps sleeping in two lots each day is better than one? An afternoon nap, for example. Seems to work for the Spanish!
omg pickle
I think the thing you got to do is sometimes sleep a lot and sometimes sleep less. Like when you're on vacation, make the most of it! You can stand 2 weeks with like 4-5 hours of sleep each night. And then when you're back just sleep a little more..
tony
Hogwarts wrote:
I have a theory Idea . If you sleep less, you have more time to get more out of life (I suggest spending all your extra time on FriHost). But if you sleep less, you have less energy to live life. What are your opinions?


I say sleep more - sleep is freaking awesome! i wouldnt give it up for anything.
andy26
hi everyone i put this sleeping theory to the test i will say now that it is much better to go to bed early and wake up early as you get to see more of the day and feel more refreshed. so first of all i spent i think it was a week going to bed very late and waking up very late it made me feel a bit like a tramp realy and i was depressed alot and mardy. but then when i tryed the theory which i think is the best it was amazing a lot more better.
HoboPelican
andy26 wrote:
hi everyone i put this sleeping theory to the test i will say now that it is much better to go to bed early and wake up early as you get to see more of the day and feel more refreshed. so first of all i spent i think it was a week going to bed very late and waking up very late it made me feel a bit like a tramp realy and i was depressed alot and mardy. but then when i tryed the theory which i think is the best it was amazing a lot more better.

Glad you found something that works for you! Very Happy But can you explain the term "mardy"? I can almost guess, but I never heard that word before.
haak_heu
I think if u sleep alot your brain will be fresh , than you can do what ever
you want with your brain ,but if you dont sleep much you get exausted
so is your brain and you even cant remember few lines , you i will start
taking stimulant like coffe , cigrate or cocca , choclate or any thing like that , what these will do ,they will burst your recepters and now what happen your capacity of brain decreases and decreases .. so it is better to
sleep .................

So , have nice dreams
eva789
Sleep less! Unless youre an insomniac. Or your dreams are better than the movies you watch. Or you hate your job. And this is the first Ive heard of sleeping more giving you energy It seems the opposite to me- the more I sleep the more energy I seem to lose. Also time:)
Phil
I work at night. Sometimes very late. I personally try to get up early in the morning ( usually 7-9).
I find that if I do I have plenty of time to do everything I need to do before I leave for work in the afternoon. If I've had a string of very late nights, usually one good extra-long sleep session will do it for me.
About all this "feeling tired". I find that if I just keep occupied with something, I don't feel tired.

I think the biggest reason I want to get up early is I did nothing but sleep as a teenager. I look back and see all the time I wasted.
Ray Gravin
I think I may have mentioned this one time before, but I LOVE SLEEP! I wish I had more time to spend doing this. Sleeping rules!
kansloos
If you don't sleep at all, you'll be dead the next week.
So if you were planning to sleep less, BE WARNED!!!!
TheSk8ingFreak
I'm sure tonnes of people have already said exactly what I'm about to say... but I need to post 5 quality posts before my deadline so this will have to do! Anyways, as the poll at the beginning of this thread is saying, this is really an even split between the people here and I couldn't actually decide! So there are obvioisly two very good arguments on either side! One side is that if you sleep less you have more time to do stuff in your life. And this is very very true! Infact, (okay a little bit about my life here) My parents are devorced so every other weekend me and my siblings alternate between houses. Both houses are extremely different life styles! My dad's house is the do what ever you want house just be here for 7:00 Sunday so I can take you back to your mothers kind of house. Where as my mom's house is more like the THE BLOCK?!? THE... BLOCK??? you're 15 years old and you want to walk around the block... BY YOURSELF?!?! Oh no! Deffinatly not!... kinda house. I think you see where I'm getting at. My dad's house I don't really sleep and I squeeze as much activity as I can out of the weekend. As apposed to at my mom's house where I (of course) have a specified bedtime... so I might as well sleep if i'm in my bed by 10 anyways. Now, which is better? Again, tough. Think When I don't sleep I get to do soo much much which is important because I am at my dad's house less often and I have alot to do because of all the freedom I get there. But when I sleep I get to do less, but the things I do are much more enjoyable. So... here I am again stuck on the fence, and i just don't know which side to hop onto (now that I think of it... what am I doing sitting on a fence anyways! Eh? So I guess I'll stay on the fence though, because I've actually made it a very comfortable place to stay over the time its taken me to type all of this up. I guess that means that both Sleeping less and Sleeping more are good... but that could be just for me. Which would mean that the answer to this question doesn't depend on one's opinion, but on their life style.
geckoliz
For me, sleeping more and earlier is better. lets say if i sleep very late but i still sleep 8 hours, i won't feel as rested as i sleep early and for the same duration. Its odd. Anyway, sleeping lesser is even worse for me. I cannot even concentrate if i do not have sufficient sleep and feel miserable for the whole day. So i think its better to have sufficient sleep so as to get more out of life.
Saurabh
Well... i think sleeping less is a better option as the time for which we sleep is better suited to other activities which are much more stimulating both physically and psychologically.... the pun intended... Wink

Nevertheless talking on a much serious note, it does help in shaping the day better....
EVILSKAAP
The Conspirator wrote:
Less sleep = more stress= all the crap that comes with stress.


Yeah, but eventually you would need coffee,, and with coffee, comes the inspiration to deal woth the crap and solve the problems!

So me, im going with less sleep!

But dont get me wrong, i love my sleep!
Helios
I don't sleep. Well, almost... do 3~4 hours count?
GameAddict
Sleep more definetly!!!! If I sleep for 4 hours, I wake up tired and without any will to live. If I sleep for 8-9 hours I wake up refreshed and ready to enjoy life!!!!! Oh, and im hungry, which is a good thing. Wink
orcaz
IMO, i think it is sleep more. One would feel exhausted and bored when he doesn't have necessary rest. With rest, one could have the energy to do even more than one who is tired. However, sleeping more to me doesnt mean like sleeping 12 hours a day. it is just getting the required rest one needs.
Moey
I think sleeping less makes me feel better, and I feel great with around 7 hours of sleep. If I get more or I sleep in too long, I feel like crap all day. So sleeping less definatly makes me feel more awake and full of life, plus I can get more done!
xzoz92
well first of all i just gotta say in writing moment iwe been awake for 16 hours after i slept 12 hours and im totally hyper and im working better than ever but i ahve to go back and rewrite everything every 2 seconds but i write like 4x as fast so in general the coding of my page is going along quicker than ever but im the kind of person that can sleep for 16 hours wake up go lie on the sofa watchin tv and fall asleep again but then again i dont have a clear pattern for sleeping either Rolling Eyes
Ratman2050
I personally thinking sleeping is good from 11 at night to 9 in the morning. I Hate peoples who nap in the daytime. Its a waste. Keep yourself awake.
2 hours sleep a day for nappy time= 2 hours of FriPostage gone
2 hours sleep a day for nappy time= 2 hours of Fun gone
And is it worth it?
Dragate
Moey wrote:
I think sleeping less makes me feel better, and I feel great with around 7 hours of sleep. If I get more or I sleep in too long, I feel like crap all day. So sleeping less definatly makes me feel more awake and full of life, plus I can get more done!


that only applies for you I guess... Personally I cannot sleep 7 hours and feel good...

I need um at least 10 hours to be tottaly good. Lol I feel so old, but seriously it's good to sleep more. Sleep restores your body and works your mind. During sleep in one of many stages you have one that builds memorization and even one to through out useless information. If you do not go through the whole process at least once a week, I do not see how you can manage at school. 8 hours minimum is estimated for you to got through the whole cycle. Also... for me at least sleeping feels good ^^.

Quote:
I personally thinking sleeping is good from 11 at night to 9 in the morning. I Hate peoples who nap in the daytime. Its a waste. Keep yourself awake.


Very true, but you should sleep your ful cycle at night though. Hehe. you have 10 hours of sleep. That is what we call the "perfect hour". 10 hours gets you through the whole cycle and you don't sleep TOO MUCH so that you become long-time sleep dependant. NICE

VERDICT: SLEEP MORE TO GET MORE OUT OF LIFE ^0^
96than
Definitely sleep more. After two almost sleepless nights I look exactly like zombie, and feel even worse. The best thing I do before any exam is to go to bed early the night before. That really helps a lot
96than
but sometimes.... i like to be a little zombie, so...
Shocked
Confused Rolling Eyes Smile
novisdesign
Sure sounds good on paper.

-GS
meretyping
i take the wannabe-insomniac's view, myself. down with sleep! (especially since you get more tired if you have too much of it.)

but all the rules will change once summer is over, so . . . hard to say
caroline
I’ll do this really nerdily:
Let t be the number of hours you are awake.
Let l be the amount of life you “live” per hour.
t * l = a constant k. So it’s all the same Smile
songsalways
I believe its not a binary decision to make. It depends upon the situation.

But sleeping less is not a good option always. If your are under pressure, its fine. Otherwise this is not a healthy way. Sleeping more is not a good option either. Main point is sleep for sufficient time. Its around 6 hrs for normal adult. Sleepless nights may increase your work output for the time being but it will decrease your health and immune in the long run.

So sleep sufficient. Be healthy. Work for longer time. Dont hurry.
songsalways
andy26 wrote:
hi everyone i put this sleeping theory to the test i will say now that it is much better to go to bed early and wake up early as you get to see more of the day and feel more refreshed. so first of all i spent i think it was a week going to bed very late and waking up very late it made me feel a bit like a tramp realy and i was depressed alot and mardy. but then when i tryed the theory which i think is the best it was amazing a lot more better.


This is the best way to go. Good going pal.
Commando_Sondre
Sleep more, you get more energy and you get your mind more clear. I sleep around 10-11 hours and I run around in 9 hours Razz
celestial_demon
I get to sleep at 12 pm, I wake up at 5:05 am, i'm wide awake straight away but im not good at sport but i am rather smart (actually i'm very smart)
WeAlreadyHaveACult
Things get very weird. When I'm getting 8 ++ hours I am much more pleasant and the world is less hostile and I think sleep is very important. Sometimes even sleeping pills are necessary. This whole thing reminds me of being forced to keep a journal or write short stories in gradeschool. I would really like to keep my account open here but it feels like so much pressure to have to post. I feel like everything I say is useless and idiotic. I don't quite understand. I've gotten ten hours of sleep, and tomorrow is the 4th of July. Ahhh!
thechurrocart
You do! Or at least I do. I find that I am the most efficient when I get about 7-8 hours of sleep, and wake up before or around 8am. Usually, I feel much more productive and energized. The best part is that you can actually accomplish something practical, look at the time, and find it's not even midday. It's quite... moralizing(?) to do things like this.

People are saying that they go to sleep for about 4 or 5 hours and they feel rested, which I have also done for extended periods of time. However, just because you have physically recuperated, doesn't mean that you're well rested. Deep sleep is an important time to heal and recharge your body, but REM (rapid eye movement - when you're dreaming) is important for consolodating the memories you've had during the previous day. I believe research is still being done on the exact importance of REM sleep, but it sort of makes sense because my dreams generally deal with issues that I have been dealing with during the day. Which gives some legitimacy to dream interpretations (though I've found the interpretations to be fairly obvious, and not deep seeded Freudian stuff).

So I think you need enough sleep to be energized and aware, but not too much because your body starts to get used to lethargy. For me, 7-8 hours is the ideal, but it depends on what needs to be done.
greengiant2684
less sleep wouldn't hurt most people... i function better with 6 hours than i do with 8. less than 5 hours for more than two days though and i'm in zombie mode.
A Daily Cup Of Chai
nam_siddharth wrote:
I voted for speep less, because I actually sleep a lot. although, I like this proverb -
Quote:
Early to bed and early to rise
Makes a man healthy, wealthy and wise


Yay Benjamin Franklin!

I've been getting more sleep recently. It's actually helped quite a bit.

But that could just be the result of an end to school and the start of summer...
Lonelyhut
In my opinion, sleeping more helps get more out of life.
As a student, I always see my classmates taking a nap in class, and that makes them learn poor, because they can't concentrate on what they should pay attention to, and also they just feel tired all day but don't get enough sleep. They don't sleep continuously but have poor sleeping quality.
By contrast, I always sleep more that they do and I am able to be active in class. Therefore, even I haven't review for today's lesson, I still know the topic more clearly than they do.
To sum up, sleeping more seems to be beneficial for having more energy to concentrate on study. So next time, never stay up late for just a little bit time for studying.
pjv
Different people have different length of time for sleeping. Some poeple sleep for four hours and they are still productive and energetic, others gets too sleepy to do anything for that length of time.

Some people sleeps for 8 to 10 hours a day. But others finds their body weakens and experience headache if they sleep that long.

I suggest that you find you length of sleep that you became more productive.

For me, 7 hours of sleep is good enough to recharge my body. Smile


Sleep well, eat well and live well.
ankur.vatsa
I sleep less
I was working for a closed doors and windows organization for about 3 years . . . . but when I moved beyond that I met so many people good at so many things . . . . having so many varied thoughts . . . . and having a life away from work . . . . hence I decided to let the sleep go and catch-up with the rest of the world . . . . I've since then learnt a lot . . . . and been in touch with lots of people doing lot many things . . . . I'm now trying hands at various business ideas (software and non-software) . . . . and I'm already seeing success round the corner . . . . I'm glad I read the article on how Bill Gates works and got to know about the Google Story . . . . I'm sure I'll sleep less forever . . . . please share your thoughts . . . . please reply . . . . and one area I'm sure I may be losing is my health . . . . so update me of the hazards that might be . . . .
bigdan
I try to be in bed by midnight, I get up around 7am.
Hogwarts
I went to bed at midnight last night... Had three cups of strong coffee in the afternoon.. Didn't manage to fall asleep for 1 hour +

I felt great today... I had alot of energy to boot. Don't know why, haven't had any coffee or anything. Now it's 9 pm and it's catching up on me..

Oh well, only get what you put in.
sions
If you don't sleepe, you dont get energy for your life, and because of that you can't get expirience, so your life is sleepy and booring, however if you sleepe, then will you have energy to make stuff everyday, work, get money, use money to get laid ( Razz) get expirience, then home and sleepe so you can get up, work, join swat and forget you work, and ran around with a big m246 and shoot terrorist, and, then you sleepe, if it not is fun enough, then will you probetluy just start working for osamma bin larden, and then die, as ofcurse will be waste of life, so dont be a terrorist
marco2379
At what point does one reach the dimishing marginal utility of sleep? To find this point we have to take into consideration the benefits of quality sleep on health, vitality, and productivity. In contrast there is no productivity in sleep. So if a person is truly able to be, lets say 10%, more effective on a nights worth of quality sleep, would they be able to be just as productive as a person that stays awake 10% longer and continues to work during that additional awake time.

On a side note, if a computer crashes when no one's around, does it make a sound?
Shiva
Say, what about: Sleep more, live healthy and NOT getting tired.. Cool
dexterius
I think that each one that sleeps a lot voted for sleeping less and and those who sleep not too much say that we should sleep more Smile it depends, i say you should sleep enough ... what does it mean is different for all of us Smile
Fenroy
Personally, I feel that less sleep works best. That said, I tend to stay up late and sleep late. My average night is somewhere around 9 hours, but I always feel more active and energetic with about 4-6 hours. As long as I don't have to interact with people within the first hour I'm awake, I can pretty much do with any amount of sleep.

I have heard, though, that if you get too much sleep, it's practically like getting too little. Apparently once you're rested, your body starts getting negative sleep...or something. I tend to agree.
Filokaz
I once heard, that your lifespan is determined by th number of your heartbeats. Since your heart beats slower during sleep, this means that you live longer, if you sleep longer. But, of course, you would experience less of your time.
Utopia GFR
My opinion would be to sleep more and get more out of life.

I think that sleeping is one of the most vital needs in human life Smile

Therefore, whenever i can grab an opportunity to shut down my eyes and empty my mind, i reach for my bed and try to sleep even though it may be during daytime Wink

I see sleeping as a good painkiller for everyday trouble and a good way for sick people to try and get better.

I dont want to discredit people who sleep less in order to bite life 100%, I just believe they shouldn't neglect their health aspects.
jnedad
Sleep more...
rpgmaker
Well there was astudy which proved that fighting sleep can get you high in other words can get you more energy so either way sleep or not u have enough energy for the day.
Arnie
It seems that sleeping allows the brain to process things it's worked on earlier, thus making you more effective with those things after having slept. Personally I prefer to find a balance, which is not easy... Smile because if you sleep all the time your brain doesn't have anything to process! Laughing
Rev` -
Well, hello everybody!

I think you should sleep more than less.
That keeps your mind fresh and able to work. I sleep 6-8 hours a day and I feel perfectly good. When I sleep like 3-4 hours my mom says that I look like a zombie. Smile
So like I think that less sleep is kind of drug or something like that, that keeps your mind unpolite and all this things.
Rev` -
Yes, and I forgot to tell you...
If I ever do long hours that's because I want see some good film that is on TV on late hours or just to go out with my friends and have fun, so I changed what I thought. It would be nice to try get some kind of balance like Arnie said.
Juparis
During the school year, I have no choice but to sleep less, just to squeeze in some sort of fun into the day. I can't live a life doing nothing but homework--that would turn me suicidal.

During the summer, I have to catch up on everything I lost. Very Happy
I guess since Xbox Live makes up most of my social life, it doesn't hurt for me to sleep more. It's not like I have friends begging to be part of my schedule or anything.

When you sleep less, you have more time to play, but less energy.
When you sleep more, you have less time, but more energy.
I guess that varies from person to person, but when you sleep more, you get some exciting adventures in your dreams, at the very least (for those of us who can remember them in the morning).
johnnycake
I sleep more but I never get that energy... anyway life is still good
martichka
Hello!

I say that it's an really interresting theory to talk about... well

First of all, since I'm young, I've never slept too much and I was always too much tired to and I wasn't really happy of my life...

I was too much stressed alot things was happening at the same time..

And now, I'm kinda older and.. I sleep till I wake up by myself I never use anything to wake up me (Except the sun Laughing )

And since that, my life is extraordinary and I don't have any stress and I enjoy the life!

well I really suggest to everyone to sleep till they wake up theirself!

Good luck!

Tommy.
sandeeptapradhan
Well I believe in both the theory.
Sleep more on weekdays..
and Sleep less on week ends..

Week ends are there spend more time with your self..
So sleep less and enjoy your self on week ends..

Sleep more on weekdays as you need more time to refresh your self.

Very Happy




Hogwarts wrote:
I have a theory Idea . If you sleep less, you have more time to get more out of life (I suggest spending all your extra time on FriHost). But if you sleep less, you have less energy to live life. What are your opinions?
juegos
i always think "sleep is a waste of time". i really hate sleep .. hehe... cuz we cant do nothing while we sleep. but this human body needs breaks sometimes. I only go to sleep when im really tired, never im in bed watching tv or something.

I hope some1 create something to stay wake up 24/7 Smile
Snafoo
Having lived for a few years now I can tell you that there are merits to both not sleeping as much and sleeping too much.

Its true if you sleep less, you have more time to spend on FriHost of variety of other activities which you may enjoy in life. If you enjoy long nights of endless partying and drink you can certainly partake in more of that. But at what cost does this come at....

Ive personally read several reports concerning sleep. And although sleeping less does allow for more time to do other things, unless you are genetically dispositioned to handle such things, it will eventually catch up to you.

Sleeping less has proven to cause both mental and physical reflexes to slow along with healing. Your immune system for instance can become depressed in such a way as to cause injuries to heal slower, your resistance to disease to become weak.

I think the case for sleeping less loses out to sleeping more. A refreshed body and an alert mind are far preferable to the comatose state your body and mind reaches from being overtired. Snafoo

btw....sex is much better....unless your the type who is into torturing themselves...
charseips
I think it is probably best to balance the sleep/awake time, I sleep for just under 8 hours normally regardless of what time I go to bed, provided I don't have to get up for something like work, and if I sleep too much or too little I feel overly tired for the next day. Although I am sure that it is probably biological as to how much sleep one actually needs and of course what changes your body is dealing with, for instance when growing (babies, puberty) we need more sleep than usual to function and grow properly.
chriswest
8.5 hours a day,. I heard you dont need nearly that much. Many people thoroughout history went with less sleep then that. I think it has alot to do with your gender, age,weight,activity level and generl stress levels in your life.

Of course it varies per individual, but I think once you have a routine you can probably get down to 5 or 6 hours of sleep a nigth without being unhealthy.
SamiTheBerber
I think that people have to sleep so much they need to. Sometimes I go later to sleep after when have nothing to do. But sometimes I'm too tired to stay awake.
schnitzi
I think a lot of people here could probably get by with less sleep. Then again, I probably think that because I'm in the "less sleep" camp. I get by with six a night.

Further advice: remove caffeine from your diet. You'll be sleepy for a few weeks, but once you're past the dependence, you will find yourself with more energy, not less.
crimson_aria
I don’t know, but in my case, I sleep less. I don’t usually get enough sleep because I’m not that fond of sleeping early. I stay up all night if I can. But, I think getting enough sleep is really important, like 8 hours a day for teenagers. As for me, I'm fine with 5 hours of sleep. I can be fine with 2-3 hours but I get sleepy later on. What I don't want is sleeping for only an hour. I'd rather not sleep at all than sleep for only an hour. It gives me headache.
snjripp
It seems to me that when sleep deprived I don't end up seeing the world with the same vibrancy with which I encounter it when rested. To me, encountering the world for fewer hours each day, but with vibrancy and fullness is worth more than more hours awake but wishing I was asleep or feeling that I have missed what I encountered because I was too tired to really see. For some people, however, the ability to fully encounter seems to be there even when a lot of sleep is not (lucky)--this is not me, but if you've got it, go with it.
IvyA
I think the trick is not to sleep to much or too little. Once you find the amount of sleep that you need to feel rested, aim for that.
I find that the most sucessful people i know sleep very little, yet at the same time i feel that you can learn quite a lot about yourself from the world of your dreams.
coolcepi
This debate can be better viewed from the quantity vs. quality perspective.

As I see it, life is all about the experience. So if you live the experience in a way you are rested, an all your senses are ready and up to pick the stimulae at 100%, then you enjoyed the experience, enjoyed life.

Now, simply put: you have to be well rested and live at 100%

It´s up to you to find the perfect balance in sleep/wake hours to let you just enjoy life at its maximum

This is my humble opinion, and I´m sticking to it Very Happy
frozenhead
[opinion]I think it's not how long or short the time you sleep or anything like that, it's how you spend the time given a chance you make it special[/opinion]
healyrj
I have sleep apnoea. I would like to stay up later and do with less sleep but no matter how much sleep I get, I still feel really sleepy all day. It's a bit of a pain but I believe the condition is pretty widespread for people of my age. There is no easy remedy.
billys
I guess that the quality of our sleep depends on the general quality of our life. I can't imagine a person that doesn't eat well, exercise, isn't happy with is life, and has a lot of worries will sleep well.

Now trying to answer to the dilemma "If you sleep less, you have more time to get more out of life (I suggest spending all your extra time on FriHost). But if you sleep less, you have less energy to live life."

I would like to say that sleeping plays an essential role in our life and it is needed so we can have the energy to go on.
We should try to see how much sleep is enough for ourselves and if we want to get more out of our lives we should sleep more and close the television when crap is being shown or find ways on being creative.

The thing I would like to say is that lets find ways to get more out of our life while we are awake (While we are awake do we get the most out of our lives? Are we creative? Are we living?).
billys
IvyA wrote:
I think the trick is not to sleep to much or too little. Once you find the amount of sleep that you need to feel rested, aim for that.
I find that the most sucessful people i know sleep very little, yet at the same time i feel that you can learn quite a lot about yourself from the world of your dreams.


I couldn't agree more
themik
I agree with that Smile Laughing
Robal
i think we sould sleep not more or not less, we should spleep exacly what we need. for instance : i sleep over 8-9 hours, i tkink it is quite long but i need it to be efficiently for whole day.
Robal
frozenhead wrote:
[opinion]I think it's not how long or short the time you sleep or anything like that, it's how you spend the time given a chance you make it special[/opinion]


i think it is very wise opinion in spite of being short
corridor_writers
I don't think it is so much sleep more or sleep less, but the quality of the sleep. A person who gets a good solid 7-8 hours of sleep that hits all the stages of sleep (deep, REM, etc.) is a lot better off than a person who sleeps for 10-12 hours but tosses and turns the whole night (though this can often be due to chronic medical conditions like snoring or sleep apnea.

My vote – a good healthy eight hours of uninterrupted sleep will leave you with more energy and a fuller life. Not wasted in bed, and not wasted walking around as a zombie.
GW_Addict
Depending on what you do....

If your an active person, get a full nights sleep.

If your a desk jocky or a gamer (he he) then who needs sleep!

Live it up!
Arcuru
The insomniac way is definitely the way to go. Sleeping less allows much more time during the day to get stuff done, and sleep deprivation can always be overcome by eating right and having the correct exercise regime.
enricoc
Only a small idea. If you sleep 8 hours every day (normal average time) it means that in a normal 80 years life you have been sleeping for more than 26 years. So do you think it would be nice to live without sleeping till 54 years and to sleep from 54 to 80?
Fenroy
enricoc wrote:
So do you think it would be nice to live without sleeping till 54 years and to sleep from 54 to 80?


That's completely insane. Personally, I wouldn't want to give up my sleep time. When I'm asleep, it gives me a break from the world. That's why when bad stuff happens to me, I tend to go to bed around 1 AM instead of my normal 4 or 5 AM. The longer I'm asleep, the longer I don't have to worry about my problems. Very Happy
UApilot
My entire previous school year has been horrible because of school. I only got around 6-7 hours of sleep and spent the entire day moping around trying my best to look content. However, I didn't feel that much better when I got the appropriate 8-9 hours either. But the quality versus quantity aspect shouldn't center between getting more sleep/missing out on life and getting less sleep/getting more accomplished.
Personally, I haven't slept well in a long time. My mattress does wonders on hurting my back (I am more comfortable sleeping on the floor) and I haven't dreamed in ages. And when I do, its usually rare. The dreams are very short and confusing and pretty much only center quickly around a recent problem I had. There are places in the world where you can get a quality sleep in just 6 hours; thats more quality then I usually get with an 8-hour sleep. The reason for that is because during that time, the human body is actually resting, enough so that the mind has the time and energy to wander. And if it does wander, it wanders deep and well into the aspects of the mind.
So its not whether or not you get enough sleep, but how well you sleep in the amount of time that you do. The true title of this thread should be whether you should be more rested/miss out on life or less rested/get more out of life.
My answer to that is that the latter does not exist. If you are less rested, the following 16ish hours you spend going about your day aren't worth it: you don't feel that good, you're not that fast at whatever you do, and you miss out on most things anyways due to sleepiness. When I'm well rested, I'm pumped, excited about anything I'm going to do, and feel good because of it.
pacsey
i think it's better to sleep a bit less and enjoy of life more.
Seeing that average time for sleeping is 33 per cent, i think it's a waste
We just have to reduce that time
cknight411
I am TRYING soooo hard to sleep less but ALWAYS find I want to do NOTHING between the hours of 3 pm and 6 pm. I am told it has to do with seratonin uptake in the brain which cycles every 12 hours. I continue to force myself to stay awake. IT is tough.

~Carolyn
dpsthree
I have found that personally the best amount of sleep is 5-6 hours, you can accomplish the most (depending on the timeline) throughout the day, and get enough sleep to keep going. In the long run through, it helps to get at least 8 hours sleep one day of the week.
ibay
I don't think this is a good idea, sleeping less is like killing yourself slowly.
Sleep not only provides rest to your brain but also to your body. If you sleep less, your body will gradually become weak and you will start experiencing disorders. This happens slowly and it takes time to show its effects, but it is sure to happen to anyone who does not fulfil his sleep requirements.
The most dangerous thing about sleeping less is that when its effects occur, you won't know their real cause, this way it causes great sufferings.
Lucifer667
i prefer sleeping less, thats not always better but ive got MUCH MORE time then other people. i can chill at work, becaus ive got 5 hours more then the others;)!
but its also good 4 you wen you sleep much longer then i and have more energy to hurry.
and 4 your sex live its better to have more energy;) you know!

mfg
lucy
ralphbefree
of course the amount of sleep that one needs depends on your age. When you are younger and still growing you need more sleep. As you get older you need less sleep. I heard a theory that was applied by a few successful men: They would sleep for 2-3 hours then work for 5-6 hours. In this way they still got their neccessary 8 hours of sleep per 24 hours but where not plagued by the effects of oversleeping.
dont be afraid of nap time i guess would be the moral of their stories heheheh...
rfarrand
I absolutely hate sleep. It is such a waste of time. I understand sometimes you need to get some sleep but i feel like if my didn't need it, i would never sleep. There is so much more to do each day and as life goes on, there is more and more.

There is defintely not enough time in the day to do everything that i want to do. how many of you out there agree? i bet all of you do.

But of course then you get into the whole thing about, how much more time we should have, because if there was an hour or 2 added to each day, then we would eventually just complain and decide that is not enough time to do all that we want to do in life.

Why other then our bodies need it, do you enjoy or need to sleep? really? be honest here. Don't get me wrong, i love to relax and not worry about everything going on, but i don't need to be sleeping to just not think about everything going on in life. right?

i really do love sleep, just wish i didn't need as much so i could get more things done in life and do more things then what i have time for right now. ha ha ha -- i just wrote a book...i am done.
allanxiao
Sleep less when you have to, sleep more when you want to.
Lucifer667
ralphbefree wrote:
When you are younger and still growing you need more sleep. As you get older you need less sleep.


äää

im am 15..is 15 old? no time!
heheh..

mfg lucy
xinafoid
i say sleep less but if your not sleeping, then how will you get more out of life when you can;t live it? lol
kcw1304
I get cranky when I don't get enough sleep. Less sleep lowers not only my quality of life but that of my friends and family because they have to deal with my crankiness!! I also am much more alert and productive when I sleep enough.

On the other hand, there is such thing as sleeping too much. This just makes me groggy and unproductive.
EvilGuest
i think that sleep is too good for health nevertheless we need to be active to live more life !
datter
I think a lot of this has to to with a persons age and inate need for a certain amount of sleep. Some can get by with a lot less than others. That said, a wise man once told me, "The best way to start your lifestyle on a decline is to not get enough sleep".

datter
Michael B
I am all for a healthy amount of sleep, when your tired you don't work as fast. I say healthy because spending all day in bed would be a waste of time just as much as never being in it.

I would also think that not sleeping enought would make you live shorter (die sooner) too. Lack of sleep will kill you quicker than lack of anything else. Three days with no sleep and your dead. But that is extreem, but maybe in lower does it builds up as well.
sush
There's a very good e-book available on the web on how to sleep less and be more energetic.

http://www.wonderfulsleep.com

Great book.
Vanilla
I'm the kind of person that needs to sleep at least 12 hours per day. Yes, I'm lazy. But when I don't sleep that much, I get angry. Not just angry, really angry. I think that most of the problems in the world are caused by people who didn't get enough sleep. Hey, what are you doing here? Go to sleep! You'll get a wonderful skin, a good humor and will be a better person. I promise. Very Happy
R2.DETARD
I'm usually the 11-13 hour sleeper, but I flew from Germany to Australia two weeks ago and because of the jet lag and the world cup (on at 5am) I have been happily sleeping 11 til 4 (5 hours). I have been able to do an eyeopening amount of new and fun things.
quex
Everybody's different, to be sure, but it's good advice to be careful with your health when it comes to sleeping...

Back in my highschool years, I sacrificed a good deal of the night hours to homework and goofing off, and ended up with a thyroid condition that takes daily medication to control. Without the meds, I need to sleep for 18 hours a day to function normally for the 6 I spend awake. No kidding.

If you can manage, though, I've heard something on NPR about people who habitually sleep only 6 hours a night living a few years longer in the end. Heh!

PS: Nice to meet you all!
n0isehazard
I definitely vote: "Sleep more to get more out of life"

Your sleep less, get more out of life theory sounds like something my brother would say. It also reminds me of Edgar Allen Poe's famous quote.

The reason why I don't agree with it is because I get insomnia every now and then, and every time I'm tired, I can't function properly. I also start feeling very depressed after a while. Sad When I get sleep, sure I lose a bunch of hours in my day, but I also feel a lot better than when I don't sleep.

Some people can function with few hours of sleep, but apparently I'm not one of them. ^_^;
Bookface
I like to think of having a set hours of awake time throughout your life. Every time you stay up you're drawing a little off the end of your store.

That's probably a little bit true, too, in terms of wear and tear on your body.

I tend to sleep a lot less than most people. I've only recently begun to worry about that being a problem as I've started losing hair and I'm only 23. I think that may be more due to stress from other sources, though, as I'm probably getting the best sleep I've had in the past 8 years or so now. (Unfortunately, that's probably still not enough and still contributing to my stress.)
silliman
In my observations of nature, I see all living plants and animals following cycles of rest and activity. If one thinks they get more out of life by "burning the candle at both ends," then I think sooner or later they find the candle has a very short life.

According to 2004 poll by the National Sleep Foundation, "the average adult sleeps 6 hours and 58 minutes per night during the workweek, according to the National Sleep Foundation poll. Sleep experts recommend 8 hours of sleep per night."

The sleep cycle is a valuable time to revitalize the immune and endocrine system and restore bio-chemical balance. "Burn out" is not just figurative speech, biological organs can actually age prematurely and at a faster rate than the chronological age.
watersoul
Oh I never seem to get enough sleep!
I love sleeping and dreaming, and that lovely period when I'm half awake and half asleep knowing that I don't have to get up for anything.
I'm working 12 hour shifts at the moment 6 days on and 2 days off, and every night I say to myself "get to sleep in time for at least 7 hours", but it never happens, and I end up functioning with around 5 hours of sleep, Argh!
To be honest, I've always had this viewpoint that I don't care at all what work I do for money, or the specific tasks of the day, the thing that I'm paid for every day in my mind is simply for getting out of bed! I cant stand the actual getting up thing no matter what time it is or how long I've been asleep, it's been the same since school and childhood, and I imagine it will be the same for the rest of my life now Smile Sleep is that wonderful place where you can escape from everything and I'm tired tonight so looking forward to it now before the alarm clock at 5.30am tomorrow.
Good night everyone - however long you sleep for!
cesto
Sleep Is overrated..

But
Einstein slept 10 hours per night...

So maybe it does make you smarter...

I try to sleep at least 8 hours.. somwtimes it doesent work...

i think of it as .
a battery half charged does not give the full charge that a fully charged battery would if it were fully charged... whew


Sleep is good
nondormo
Hogwarts wrote:
I have a theory Idea . If you sleep less, you have more time to get more out of life (I suggest spending all your extra time on FriHost). But if you sleep less, you have less energy to live life. What are your opinions?


You started a good discussion here and I commend you for it. I don't get enough sleep and I don't like it. I have a day job and a night job and sleep for me is something I really look forward to (about 4 hours in the afternoon). I think it is not a question of having more or less sleep. It is a question of having more time for other things things apart from earning your daily bread. Wink
HoboPelican
cesto wrote:
Sleep Is overrated..

But
Einstein slept 10 hours per night...

So maybe it does make you smarter...
...
Sleep is good


But Edison only slept 4 to 5 hours with a few catnaps. I don't think you can draw any conclusions from either one.
adredwood
I personally think there is an important element going unmentioned here - the doze.

doze (v/n) = to be in between sleep and alertness, aware of the need to rise but wholly focused on the laziness of a bed/couch/bush. This state can sometimes extend to entire days with the right conditions.

Sleep is rightly touted as the recuperative element of our lives, to rest our minds and bodies, but i think a good doze sets the tone of a day - ive never trusted these go-getters who jump out of bed with their alarm at 6 o'clock. And its a fine balance - too much, and your mind is lazy for the rest of the day. Too little and youre grouchy. But just enough and the world unfolds around you just as it should.

"Give me a place to doze and i shall move the earth" - Archimedes. Possibly.
owen mono
sleep is good, sleep is healthy.

Also, not sleeping and driving is more dangersous than drink driving. Drunk driving doesn't make you fall asleep at the wheel.
eleceng
I agree that you shoudl restrict your sleep but i do feel that too little is unhealthy. I used to get between 6 and 7 hours a day while in school and i found i worked comfortably off that. The problem however is that if you get too much more sleep you feel extra tired and too little and you feel you haven't had enough sleep.
I find also that seasonal weather can play a part too
ayushhsr
Sleep is the most essential physical and physiological relaxation which is natural and the most effective.
6 hours of sleep a day might be sufficient, but an additional hour might optimize the benefits.
Lowering sleep hours can be beneficial provid over a period of timeou train the bodyed y
fashioncrimewave
yeah, that's an idea i've thought about in the past as well.

unfortunately, your body can't take the sleep deprivation.

but somehow i've developed a bit of insomnia so i find that I really can't sleep until i'm exhausted. exercising seems to help this quite a lot. but now i find that i can't sleep late even on weekends, i wake up early and my mind starts racing, so i have to get up.

i also drink a thermos a day of coffee so that has probably screwed up my whole sleep pattern. Confused
Firefly54
I've always found that it's easy to fall into sleep patterns, especially when it comes to waking in the morning... or not! I'll have a period when I just can't seem to get up - and yet I don't actually feel any better for the extra sleep. If anything, I'm more tired...
ranciel
We just need to sleep enough, I guess? Smile

Different people have different sleeping habits and needs. So what is less sleep to one might seem like more sleep to another.

I can survive on close to no sleep or sleep 15 hours a day. They are two extremes, I know. But it really depends on how much time I have on my hands. Then again, some people like myself can survive merely on adrenaline rush whenever an amazing project lands on my lap.

Bottomline is, just sleep enough to fulfil your own sleeping needs. Cool
nico
Sorry guys for not posting earlier but in the middle of reading all this stuff, I fell asleep. True...well almost.

Anyway the way we sleep and how long we need is personal. There can't be any general theory about that.

But what's really important is Rhythm. It is more restful to sleep 7 nights of 7 hours with a good rhythm (always in bed by 11pm for instance) than 7 nights of 9-10 hours sleep with no rhythm at all (one night in bed by 2am, the next by 8pm...).

I know this from experience and perhaps you experienced it too.
I'm always more tired during my holiday when I loose the rhythm of having to go to bed and getting up at the same time although I sleep longer hours.

So this is my point: rhythm is the key. Or one of the keys. I have other points but enough for now.
peroxide
I tend to live by 36-hour days instead of 24-hour days. I'll get up and do my stuff, and I find it hard to sleep at the time I'm supposed to sleep according to most people, I only get tired 4-8 hours later, so I just follow my body's own clock.
mateo632
so i stayed up too late last night cleaning the house for guests that are coming tomorrow. and i barely remember turning off my alarm this morning. all i know is that i woke up and it was time to leave for work, not be waking up.
zanderzone
i think sleeping less is better, cuz its good to have more time to do stuff in life while its goes on
superk
life is tooo short to sleep... unfortunately, u can only keep it up for a short while.. Eventually it catches up with u! Sad..... but gotta love the Saturday morning sleep in after a big night out! ... talking about a big night out.. one day before the weekend! yeeehaaaa!
Kaisonic
I'd have to say sleep more. I mean, I can live with little sleep (less than 6 hours a night), but really anyone can. But I can really tell the difference between weeks where I've got plenty of sleep and little sleep. It really makes a difference in energy and I think it has a dramatic effect on how you interpret life. I like to sleep more, cause I know I'll enjoy life more. And sleeping less to get more time in life is almost proportional: the amount of enjoyment you get from life in a 18-hour day being really tired is equal to the amount of enjoyment you get from life in a 14-hour day being well-rested.
bufu
i have a theory...y sleep when u can drink beer nd smoke bud, 6-7 hours is just enough of sleep for me
nitecruzr
Quality sleep is what you need. Sleep when you need to.

When you need to sleep, you will get quality sleep. Once you start getting quality sleep, you will be more energised, and you will feel like you need less sleep. You'll eventually get to an equilibrium, where you get just enough sleep.

Sleep too long, and you'll dream more, but you'll feel sluggish, and you'll have less time to do stuff. Find your equilibrium.
djcaution
Wow that's a very close vote! Interesting...

If people all wanted to sleep less to get more out of life everybody would become meth addicts....
FoNGuildWars
Personally, if i dont sleep enough, i feel horrible and that i cant do anything properly. But it all depends on what you have to do on specific days.

Obviously if you've got a lot of work to do, your not gonna be amazing. But if your doing something you love, your not gonna be bothered with how you feel and just do it.

So overall, personally i need my sleep
Laughing

Cya ppl
ZergZoul
I don't think it is so much sleep more or sleep less, but the quality of the sleep. A person who gets a good solid 7-8 hours of sleep that hits all the stages of sleep (deep, REM, etc.) is a lot better off than a person who sleeps for 10-12 hours but tosses and turns the whole night (though this can often be due to chronic medical conditions like snoring or sleep apnea.

My vote – a good healthy eight hours of uninterrupted sleep will leave you with more energy and a fuller life. Not wasted in bed, and not wasted walking around as a zombie.
crasso
Ok, I also have a theory:

Leonardo da Vinci was sleeping for a fifteen minutes every two hours. No night sleep, just that practice. If everybody do just like Leonardo did, this world would be a messy place, so, join me in my eight hours sleep routine (I wish that, but often that would be 5-6 hours for real Evil or Very Mad ) to create wonderfull lazy world. Very Happy
Karrde
I love sleep, I just wish I didn't have to.

Following on from one of the previous posts: A while back while doing some unrelated research, I came across this article about the Uberman sleep schedule and the writer's own experiences with switching to it. Basically, you reduce your sleep to a couple of hours a night by taking 20 minute "power-sleeps" every 4 hours, or something similar. I looked at trying this out myself, but my work means I need to be awake for a solid 5 hour period regularly every night, and when I cover for other people (which happens more often than I'd like) I'd end up not being able to stick to the schedule.

As someone else mentioned earlier, I think routine is key when it comes to sleep. The same amount of sleep at the same time each night is probably the best and healthiest method. Of course, eating right and exercising is very important along with that.

Myself, my sleep patterns vary because of work - I don't finish normally until midnight and can't generally go straight to sleep once I get home, so my usual day is shifted sideways by a few hours. But when I'm doing day shifts, this gets thrown all out of whack.

Ah well, I'm still young, I can take it Smile
belairbeach
sleep for the 8 hours you need, and you will be able to live life to its fullest- im replying to all of this so i can get a domain! isnt my cheating great! are all of you nerds? cuz im not! im selling my timeshare on here!
truth16
i try to get as much sleep as i can, but all the early morning have wrecked my sleeping patterns i wake up at like 7 or 8 every morning
biedr0na666
as far as i see - everyone who would ever say 'why sleep when there's so much of life to live' finally ends up with his/her psychic really hurt. people would say this basically when they live a life of stress and neverending chase.
On the other hand, i know some really good folks who seem to enjoy life - and they always tend to say:
'i want to eat. i want fo f**k. BUT FIRST I WANT TO HAVE A NAP'
:DDD
d4rch
Sleeping is one of the best activity that u can do. Why do people sleep so few ? There are of course many things to do in a life. But u can't do everything. So just profit to sleep longer. It doesn't matter !!! Very Happy
Praes
What do you call sleeping less?

do you define that as less than 8 hours of sleep daily, or 6 ?

would you roll that into an average over a week?

Either way. I say you get more out of life by sleeping less.

I am able to get more done and make more MONEY. (2) jobs equals two paychex!

I wake at 5:45 am M-F, I go to sleep M-Th by 1am. F-SA i go to bed around 3am and wake up SA-Sun around 8, Sunday is my early night, i got to bed at 12.

I see no outstanding difference in my energy levels nor my reaction time to the world. I have noticed a tempermant problem, but my levels are still high.

I guess i would thank the high levels of caffeine and the mind set to it?


I regularly go to the DR. cause i have a history of high blood pressure and my system is fine. I'm in good health!
douzy
Sometimes we use the expression ceteris paribus, which means, 'everything being equal' (that is, if everything is equal). However, things are hardly equal. Hence, even though it is advisable to get enough sleep at nights (at least, five or six hours), sometimes there would be situations when going to sleep for about five or six hours would be sheer foolhardy. Sometimes, one finds oneself in such situations where one feels that twenty-four hours are not enough for a day. On such occasions, I would rather try to lose some sleep and meet the deadline than sleep and lose my job.

I recently started blogging and I am not too worried that I am losing some hours of sleep because of it. I just want to make sure that my blog is not just another blog. I want to carve out my own niche in the global blogoshpere and would not mind losing some sleep to arive at that. However, that does not mean that I would completely ignore my health. It is all about knowing how to make the needed balance.
douzy
I wonder if I can say that I have a religion per say. I was actually born into a Catholic family, but I do not see myself tied to Catholicism. I am always free to attend any church. I do not even go to Mass every Sunday, which I know is not ideal for a professed Catholic.

As far as I am concerned, what matters most is the genuineness of the spirituality one develops and not the church or sect one worships with. I am not saying that going to church is not good. It is good to go to church and I would always advice people to go to church as often as they can afford to, provided that does not affect other areas of their lives adversely.

Like I said before, we should rather concentrate on building a strong spirituality hinged on true love for one another and respect for nature and the Divine, rather than deceive ourselves the mass man identity of the institutionalised church (religion).
henrygl
foolish; SLEEP IS SOO NICE
wakeup
I think none of them. Smile. Because when we sleap less, we cant develop enough energy to do our works correctly, but if we sleep less; our body wont be able to spend this energy and wont make our organs ready to work in hard conditions.

At a conclision:

I think, move slowly and spend your energy normally, dont make "crazy" things. Not eat much, breath in the clean atmospheres, live in a village (the best)... Those are the tips for living much more than normal age ranges.

NB: The text above is product of me Smile...
mw91
Personaly I prefer to sleep longer. The way i see it when you have had a good nights sleep you are more motivated to do things and can get more done in that day.
Mwilliams
I used to think that if you sleep less you get more from life. I would stay up all night till about 4 AM and I would have to sleep all day. It dun work out well, trust me.
-cIF.avenger-
To me this question is actually a double-edged sword. Not only would you get more out of life if you slept less, but on the other hand you would also suffer from not sleeping by lack of energy a change in your personality and etc. For me I sleep less as I find it very hard to have time to do all of the fun things that I like to do during the evening. For me its sleeping less cause as someone once said: "You can sleep when you dead."
Glaive
Hogwarts wrote:
I have a theory Idea . If you sleep less, you have more time to get more out of life (I suggest spending all your extra time on FriHost). But if you sleep less, you have less energy to live life. What are your opinions?


If you wonder through life with little sleep you will miss all the things that make life great!
nox-Hand
Well, I don't sleep much, and I have gotten used to it. My sleeping problems started two years back, and I currently get 3-6 hours sleep, which is actually fine for me. Odd? I just don't mind Smile


nox-Hand
corridor_writers
So much of this (as mentioned before) depends on your age. When your young, and have tons of energy, skipping sleep is not as big a deal. Also, ironically when you’re old and sedentary you don’t need much sleep either. For all the rest of the middle-aged community, sleep is often a necessary evil.

I personally love sleep, but not so much that I lie in bed all day and waste my life.
kwolee89
I'm neutral on this matter, but still personally I'd say who cares. I'd go with sleep to get rejuvenated for the next thing. Too much sleep is bad cause with that time, you could be doing other things.
Gundamxxg
LOL I broke the current tie between the two options, and the only thing I can say to make up for the lack of sleep is with stimulants such as energy drinks and caffiene. Plus if you allow yourself to sleep in one maybe two days a week then you should be rested well enough to live the other five or six days of the week.

That is currently how I spend my schedule. Wed and Sundays are my days to sleep in with Wed being optional. The rest of the week I am usually up till about 3 am and get up at around 7am to 8am for school. I'm mentally fit as well as aware of surroundings, and I am rarely, if ever, lethargic. I supplement with Vitamin B, which is a natural powerhouse for long term energy and it doesnt have the bad side effects of caffiene or sugar. There is no 'rush' nor a 'crash' from vitamin B; it's a constant stable energy source. Green tea and energy drinks also help with this, although energy drinks do have caffiene, and I prefer the diet energy drinks since they dont usually have sugar.
greatdanish
I've found it's more the time of day (or night) that you sleep. That is, sleep patterns.
I can get a solid 8 hours of sleep from 1:00AM to 9:00AM and feel like junk the next day. My usual sleeping time is about 11:00 PM to 6:30 AM. If I can follow that pattern fairly closely, I'll feel okay. I can sleep from 11:30 to 6:30 and be okay, or from 10:30 to 7:00.

So, to sum up my (un)professional opinion, having a consistent sleep pattern is more important than having more or less sleep.
Claywarrior
sleep less

because i dont feel like i have less energy when i stay up and wake up earlier. I can do more stuff that i couldent do when i was asleep...duh

but since i dont lose energy i will be getting more time outa life and be doing more of everything i normally do.
postcd
My opinion is to sleep average. But its only theory which im not practicing successfully Smile
Most of life i think we will get when we going to sleep with hens (in our national language), then getting up with hens (9:00 ~ 6:00 morning).

Worst thing is to be under the PC 18 hours a day :-//
ninjakannon
I've unknowingly tested this theory out.

I used to go to bed very very late all the time and still get up early. I've gone nights without going to bed at all... after doing this for a while I got used to it and I was fine. Although I was constantly tired this didn't bother me, I could still do everything that I wanted and I didn't run out of energy, my lifestyle was healthier (I think) because of this because I got more excersise as I was awake and doing stuff for longer. I found that I could focus better on things because my mind was tired and therefore my mind didn't wander or get distracted which meant that I could do single tasks very well. But I didn't learn so well, that was the only down-side.

Now I sleep for longer and I find that I get distracted more easily, I don't get as much excersise as I did, I can't do as much as I did or as much as I want to. But I do learn better, that's the only upside.

I would recomend not switching from getting very little sleep to getting loads quickly, I tried and ended up waking up at about 4:00am in the morning fully awake, for some reason I then became more tired and got a cold because my immune system was disturbed.
So change your sleep patturns gradualy.

Personally I much prefer getting less sleep, I got much more out of life when I did. Wink
gltsry
I didn't vote.Because I don't agree both of them Smile .We shouldn't sleep much or few.We should sleep enough to be able to think clearly.If we sleep much, again we can think clearly of course if we have time Very Happy
dgampress
Great post! I subscribe to the sleep less idea. There is sooo much that you can do in a day that 8-10 hours of sleep seem like such a waste of time. I think it should be reserved for when you are young though... perhaps under 50. After 50... sleep, sleep all day long if needed because you need sleep to revitalize your body.

But when you're young... I think 4-5 hours a night is just right!
nazty
What is sleep?

Shocked

If you sleep less, you get more time to sleep again. Idea
ninjakannon
I think scientists need to genetically modify a human to give them too semi-independent brains. Then one could sleep, while the other was awake. This would only leave the problem of overworking your body physically... hmmm, how are we going to fix that one? Grow 2 of every muscle? Cool

greatdanish wrote:
So, to sum up my (un)professional opinion, having a consistent sleep pattern is more important than having more or less sleep.

I agree here. Too right Razz
SugarBlush
To get out of life?! huh? I don't understand. Sad
ninjakannon
SugarBlush wrote:
To get out of life?! huh? I don't understand. Sad

To get MORE out of life. Read things more carefully, or use your initiative Razz
crispz
Sleep half the day
Party for the whole of the other half

^^
benwhite
There have been a number of studies, including a big one earlier this year that had strong evidence that people who sleep less do in fact live shorter lives on average. It's not because of some obvious thing like depressed immunity or event drug use, the causes are unknown. It could just be the wear and tear of being up to much shortens life because the body repairs itself during sleep. Either way, I always liked staying up late and still do, but 7-9 hours appears to be the magic number for most people.

That said, sleep as much as it takes to feel energized for the day.
Ghost Rider103
I perfer to sleep more
ninjakannon
Ok, now that scares me Shocked

The thing is that people who stay up for longer may lead shorter lives, BUT... They may still be awake for longer, thus they actually get more time in their lives. So how much shorter are these people lives then?

Also remember that this is an avarage, some people can live on 4 hours of sleep without getting tired, therefore you would think that their body doing all the reparing that it needed to do during that 4 hours.

I think scientists need to get their acts together and create a human gene that makes them heal while they are awake. Once we can fully master things like this humans will never need to sleep; those who accept being 'modified', that is...
The question is, is that a good thing? Well, opinions will vary widly on this issue. I wouldn't mind staying up 24/7. I would have years more to do things in. Very Happy
billys
I think Lennon said this (forgive me if I am wrong)
"You shouldn't add days to your life but life to your days".
irsmart
If you sleep more, then you get a better quality of life! So the time that you are awake, you are not as drowsy.
AssimilationGamer
I have personnaly sleptless and gotten more out of life, but that is just me, and not possible for everyone int he world, some people'slives dictate that they be awakefrom 9-5, some from 12-8, some in the middle of the night, who knows, I have had too many different jobs with different schedules, that I just about gave up on sleep. I can get away with about 4 hours a week. Butmy friends cannot, and they are younger than me. Everyone is made differently, sometimes the different ones meet and converge, hence this post. Well I will leave you all with a qoute. "Do not let life pass you by, grab it by the horns and ride into the sunset". Later
mrd00d
This is the topic for me!

I 100% support sleeping less. Studies say, according to my roommate, that the typical human sleeps close to 50% of his life. I found it absurd until he showed me the article, and I believe it. I'm a huge nightowl. I work in the late evening, get off around 1am, and dont go to sleep until around 6am, and from there, I sleep until 11am-noon-1pm, depending on when exactly I went to sleep. I only need 3-5 hours of sleep a night, but my roommates like to go to sleep around 1-3am and get up at noon.

Nine hours is nice for a good refresher if you are completely exhausted, but for regular sleep when you've done nothing all day and don't work (like my lazy bum roommates), you don't need that much sleep. It's a waste in my opinion. I feel like I'm literally wasting my time sleeping. Yes, I need it. No, I don't want to do it for long, even if it is nice to lay there.

I have one friend who actually had a very valid point on why he LOVES sleeping from 3am til 2pm all the time, and I can buy it sort of. He tells me that he has wonderfully fun dreams where he and his best friends from his hometown who he doesn't get to see all the time go out and do wild and fun things, go on road trips, all sorts of crazy or fun things and he loves it, because in the real world, he is separated from those people that he dreams about being with and, a lot of times, can't afford or even do all the crazy things he dreams about doing.

Sleep is like an adventure for him, because he dreams about all the fun things in life, and all the things in life he can't do, he does in his dreams. On some of the occasions where he told his dream to me, it excited me to hear the story. He has fun sleeping.

Me? I either don't have dreams, don't remember dreams, or have nightmares. Not fun...

Not only do I believe it is personally more fulfilling to live life awake, I just have more fun that way. If I was like my friend and had fun sleeping, maybe I'd agree, although I like being awake more anyway. Additionally, my roommates aren't like my friend, they're just lazy, so they have no excuse.
ninjakannon
mrd00d wrote:
I feel like I'm literally wasting my time sleeping. Yes, I need it. No, I don't want to do it for long, even if it is nice to lay there.

I couldn't agree more. Honestly, that's exactly how I feel.
I rarely have any dreams at all, sleeping is just a big gap in the day where I do nothing at all. But the problem is that I, everyone, needs sleep. I try to get the bare minimum that I can have without being too tired.

AssimilationGamer wrote:
I can get away with about 4 hours a week.

Ummmm... 4 hours a week?#@! How can you live on 4 hours a week. Is that perhaps the longest you've ever gone without sleep? Honestly that's 4 hours in 168; that's 2.38% of your time sleeping. And as mrd00d said a "typical human sleeps close to 50% of his life". you're arround 47.5% down on the average persons sleep levels.

Quote:
Randy Gardner holds the Guinness world record for the longest period of time a human being has gone without sleep. In 1964, as a 17-year-old high school student, Gardner stayed awake for 264 hours (11 days) with the help of friends, TV reporters, and games of pinball.

http://www.thanhniennews.com/features/?catid=10&newsid=12673 wrote:
As songbirds awaken the early risers at dawn on the farm, one resident is already up; in fact, he never slept – not once in the past 33 years.

http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/neuro/neuro01/web3/Ledoux.html wrote:
One study stated that people who sleep less than four hours per night are three times more likely to die within the next six years. Although the longest a human has remained awake was eleven days rats that are continually deprived of sleep die within two to five weeks, generally due to their severely weakened immune system

Ok, so I think that, although people can go for very long periods without sleep. There is a high chance that they will die. Although I'm not sure exactly what to think about the man who hasn't slept in 33 years. He has probably got a damaged brain, and therefore his body does what ever it does in sleep anyway. Or something like that. Shocked

Well, I'd love to not sleep for 33 years(+) but oh well, I don't think that that's gonna happen.
Sorcier
I had the same theory to sleep less to do more things. I pratcice for 3 month by taking natural energisers like Vitamines with guarana or Cola nut in high dosage. I did my own "magical potion" to stay awake and to have high performances to my last Job. But after some months, I become more and more nervous, less and less concentrated on one thing. My personnal and professionnal life were in the Chaos, I was becoming mad:-( So I take drugs to sleep, to take the habits to sleep!
So I know I have to sleep to stay lucid! Idea
NewGuyinTown
Hogwarts wrote:
I have a theory Idea . If you sleep less, you have more time to get more out of life (I suggest spending all your extra time on FriHost). But if you sleep less, you have less energy to live life. What are your opinions?


You need to sleep more to get more out of life if you have too little sleep.
(You better hire an escort, a doctor, a chief. You are at a high risk of getting injured. You won't get more out of life if something bad happens. How can you get more out of life when you're not subconciously there? You're just a living zombie.)

You need to sleep less to get more out of life if you have too much sleep.
(15 hours, a good 4-7 hours of your life is wasted each day.)
MixNMatch DJ
I prefer not thinking about how much sleep can get me more out of life. I would rather just sleep when I'm tired. You know what Im saying?
Tulkamir
None of the above, sleep as much as you need to in order feel energetic and happy.

Sometimes for me that can be as little as 4 hours a night, other times I'll need far more. Depends on a variety of things. Smile
Doctor Tohma
Interesting thought... it'll keep me going a while. I'd rather sleep more, though, because then, even if you're not actually getting 'more' out of life, it'll be a better quality 'less', which, in effect, can be more.

If you get my thinking. It's going to keep me awake.
Jakob [JaWGames]
I think that you should sleep enough to not feel drowsy when awake if you feels that you HAVE to get out as much as possible from life.

Myself I tries to sleep as much as possible now when it is holiday because I know that I will sleep less when the school starts.
Em_de_Tech
I love sleep and I dont know what i would do without it... I think that the more you sleep the more refreshed your brain and body will be when you wake up... Ofcourse, there is a point where one can over-sleep. This just gives me headaches.... A person has to know how much sleep is comfortable to that person.
studsstudio
HoboPelican wrote:
aerialdreams wrote:
People actually need a lot more sleep than they think. I saw a research in a book that said that a common misconception about sleep is that people need 8 hours of sleep. In reality, people need 10 hours of sleep to get optimum energy and focus. Most people live their entire life sleep-deprived, and they don't actually know what it is like to be truly awake and focused... it was an interesting article^_^


I remember a study were the subjects were confined to a totally enclosed environment (only artificial lights that they controlled) and allowed to set their own sleep/wake schedule. If I remember right, it averaged at about 8.5 hours per 24 hour period. Don't have the citation handy, but if anyone cares, I can try to find it.

Aerial, do you remember were you saw that research?


i think, like some others have mentioned, that sleeping involves a social aspect. you sleep as much as you want to sleep, depending on stress factors and feeling responsible for others and maybe also yourself in your conscious life.

i am informed that hapiness is also a factor that makes you live longer. but i don't think you'll feel very happy when you sleep less: you can accomplish less things in your life and expose your mind less often to new things then people around you do (the human measures himself according to his fellow human..).

in the end, when we are speaking of 'what we need': i don't think more sleep, more then others, will make your life better. especially, when you are a socialised person like most of us are.
valkyrie-heavens
If u don't sleep, u wont have the energy to do anything. It's also been proven that the more sleep u get helps u stay fit and burn weight, which makes u happy and more confident so u'll want to get out and do things.
So_Bored_Sigh
OOOHHH! Pick ME!!! So yeah, sleep more get more. But, you never said WHEN!! My theory is, party ALLLLLLLL night and then go to sleep and wake up at 2 in the afternoon, have 5 hours to yourself, and then dancing with yourself (basically jumping up and down to stupid music that you have NOOOO idea what the lyrics to it are and you just like the beat) and endless TV and video games! YAY my theory! YAY dorks! Like me!! JUSTTTTT KIDDING! When I'm hyper I do that, which is often but it runs out fast and then I go to sleep a later than average time, usually 12:30...hehehe.... But really, you should go to bed at 10 on school days and weekends are 11:30. But summer break comes, 12:30! YAYYYYYY!
pelin
i prefer sleeping more ,specialy at summer.when i sleep less i just cant do anything all day.Sometimes i sleep till 2-3 pm but i also go to sleep about 5-6 am or later.
Jakob [JaWGames]
As the old saying: Quality before Quantity Very Happy
bluefossil
sleep more. The world is a depressing place. Let's just sleep through it.
brycearonium
Personally, I really love sleeping. I mean, i can't wait to go to bed at the end of the night. I look foward to it, almost. I think i just enjoy the refreshing feeling of sleeping...nothing to worry about, no stress, except when i can't sleep...but thats another story...
dan751
Here's the logic from an insomnac (myself):

- Sleep more = have more energy during the day.
- Sleep too much = have less energy during the day (from being over-tired).
- Sleep 9 to 10 hrs nightly = Perfect night's sleep, almost every night.

{OFF TOPIC}
Something I've taken up as a hobby, during the night, is called "Lucid Dreaming". "Lucid Dreaming" means dreaming and knowing that you're dreaming. If you're lucid while you dream, sometimes you can control your entire dream. PM me on this if you'd like to know more.
{/OFF TOPIC}

In essence, if you don't have a minimum of 8 hours of sleep each and every night, you'll feel more tired in the morning, trust me, I know.

I try to get in 8 to 9 hours of sleep every night, but it's hard, especially if you suffer from insomnia.
ninjakannon
Actually you're wrong, dan751.

You said that getting less than 8 hours sleep a night will make you feel tired in the morning. I know for a fact that this is wrong for me, at any rate.

Firstly, remember that everyone is different, so you simply can't say that getting 8 hours of sleep a day is the minimum you should have. Many people will not feel tired after 4 hours a night, and more sleep would simply be too much for them.

Secondly, I find that if you set yourself a 'bed time' and then stick to that for, say, 2 weeks. Then go to bed 2 hours later one night, then 2 hours later than that the next night, and then the next night just don't go to sleep at all. I've did this when I had some work to finish and I was perfectly awake. I only felt tired when I woke up the following morning after being awake for 40 hours, and having 2 hours sleep in 3 days. Not before that, but after sleeping after it.

I also find that if you sleep for too long, then you feel much more tired than you normaly would.

But that's just my personaly experience.
Aiz
The thing is, on a quick glance, it looks like we are getting more time to do things when we sleep less, which is true. However, since I used to be the queen of not sleeping (going on days without sleep or caffine, and only sleep 2-3 hrs when I do get some) I know very well how awful one can feel without the sleep. your brain would be too foggy to do anything and when you do do something, it is nowhere near the productivity level you could achieve with plenty sleep.

Then there's the risks that can result with daily tasks better accomplished with a clear head =/ Not to mention the braincells that die from a lack of rest (I swear I lost half of my braincells from my no-sleep-parades)

Then there's other health issues associated with lack of sleep that I'd rather not think about >< (shorter life span, aging faster, etc?)

With a lack of sleep, there's also the effects on your moods as a result, which would really lower the quality of the day(s) and anyway I look at it now, it's really not worth it.

*goes to sleep*
Binary
I try to sleep about 7 hours, but I only get about 5..
IMO Sleep > all Very Happy
whodaniel
I always sleep. I am sleeping even now, and you are all my dreams..
AG007
Well if you think about it, it kinda is EQUAL in the learning part.

Because if you sleep less, you will supposely learn more, but probably going to die sooner.
And if you sleep more, you will learn the same amout, because you probably going to live longer.

If prefer sleep more, because that way I can see more year on this earth, right?

Greet's
ninjakannon
AG007 wrote:
Well if you think about it, it kinda is EQUAL in the learning part.

Because if you sleep less, you will supposely learn more, but probably going to die sooner.
And if you sleep more, you will learn the same amout, because you probably going to live longer.

Actually, if you sleep for less time then you don't learn as well. Trust me, I've experienced it. So you will learn about the same as you would every day, but die earlier. Therefore you would learn less in total as you would live for less days.
But if you sleep more then you will be able to learn better and live for longer.

This is assuming that you learn the same amount every day, of course.
ephemeralpassions
well during middle school[7/8 grade], I could run on about 4/5 hours of sleep without feeling tired at all. I would stay awake later, finding that in the morning, I was able to wake up earlier too.
[this only occured when I was actually working on something, like a project. If I just surfed the web till midnight, then I'd be tempted to sleep in until noon =P]
And it also depends on what kind of life you want. For some people, it might be waking up and going to museums, foreign countries, and business meetings. For others, it could be taking a walk, swimming in the lake, and playing outside. And then for people like me, free time = internet. Razz
dan751
ninjakannon wrote:
Actually you're wrong, dan751.

You said that getting less than 8 hours sleep a night will make you feel tired in the morning. I know for a fact that this is wrong for me, at any rate.

Firstly, remember that everyone is different, so you simply can't say that getting 8 hours of sleep a day is the minimum you should have. Many people will not feel tired after 4 hours a night, and more sleep would simply be too much for them.


I also find that if you sleep for too long, then you feel much more tired than you normaly would.

But that's just my personaly experience.


I am fully aware that everyone is different. You might like to note that I made that post at around 1:50 AM EDT. So, I was tired when making that post, stating that "you'll feel more tired" was an extremely broad statement, it was meant as an "on average" comment. I'm sorry if I offended you in any way. Eight hours of sleep is the minimum I need, that's for sure.

Yes, sleeping for too long makes you feel much more tired, it's called "Over-tired". Smile
illegalhost
Hehe. Who would want to offend the mods? Haha. Just kidding. Anyways, it's always good to have some rests before the next day or event. I woke up last night at 4am in the morning cuz i couldn't sleep! Talk about how zombie eyed i must be this morning! Grumpiness sets in. And it has a multiplier effect on the people around you. Especially if you are working, man, that is the worst! The politics starts! Haiz*. Sad but true. Got to make it a point that i have to sleep by 10pm every night!! Grr!! But geez! It's 9.57pm now... Hmm.. maybe i'll sleep later, 10.30pm? *Zzzzzzzzz...
ninjakannon
dan751 wrote:
I am fully aware that everyone is different. You might like to note that I made that post at around 1:50 AM EDT. So, I was tired when making that post, stating that "you'll feel more tired" was an extremely broad statement, it was meant as an "on average" comment. I'm sorry if I offended you in any way. Eight hours of sleep is the minimum I need, that's for sure.

Yes, sleeping for too long makes you feel much more tired, it's called "Over-tired". Smile

Don't worry, I wasn't offended. I just thought that you were being a bit too general, that's all.

Another point on sleeping:
It's essential that you sleep for long enough when you've injured yourself or had an operation, I've just had my mouth operated on (today - I jsut got back actually Razz) and I'll need a lot more sleep than usual.
thim
Depends on what kind of person you are. Some people can be productive for an entire day on just four hours of sleep. Other people need to take frequent cat naps just to keep themselves in a functional state, even after sleeping for ten hours straight the night before. I guess it just depends on the person. I prefer a combination of the two.
Xvii
In response to the original question....

I make no sence when im tired, I get grumpy, and I make alot of mistakes.
Thus for the sake of everyone around me, and for myself too....I think more sleep means more enjoyment of life for me.
duboe
well is you sleep more you will be refreshed for the thing you do when you wake up but if you sleep too much it will make fell like an drug addict for hours...

i guess everyone has to find a good relation between sleeping and beeing awake.
angry_hindu
Hogwarts wrote:
I have a theory Idea . If you sleep less, you have more time to get more out of life (I suggest spending all your extra time on FriHost). But if you sleep less, you have less energy to live life. What are your opinions?

well if you sleep less you become less intelligient over time as your brain is sleep deprived and stops concentrating sharply...you end up dull and lifeless, with no intelligience and no creativity. however some people can sleep 4 hours a day and be fine. it is a bell curve and i can sleep 5 hours and be fine but my brother needs 9 hours at least....the average is like 7
mercurial
it still really depends on how your body functions best.. some ppl are NOCTURNAL and work best like while everyone is sleeping, so these ppl can jolly well sleep in the afternoon (usually for those schooling students) but others juz need loads of sleep at nite so its best to work in the afternoon and den sleep at nite
Shanghai_Dragon
I think that you should sleep more to get more out of life, because you can get more energy to do more things from sleep. If you don't sleep as much your mind will be cloudy and you won't be able to think as well... Plus I believe dreaming is part of enjoying life, so for me sleep is enjoyable.
fx-trading-education
You should sleep the time that your body and brain needs. That differs for people. But try to sleep less than that is useless.
You will not have a great benefit of the extra hours because your are tired and anyway if you count for your whole life you will have probably less hours "awake" because you will die younger !
cr3ativ3
Well I think you do need a balance but that doesn't mean you can't choose when, if you wanted 10 hours you could take five two hour naps to do the things you enjoy at the times you enjoy doing them.

Edit: to get rid of dead image tag.
tuncay
There is a stupid book in Turkey called 'Only idiots sleep for 8 hours' the book tells how we should sleep less and bla bla, but can anybody tell me how we are going to concentrate without getting enough sleep???

Must go to bed, sorry Smile
ClanDestine
Well, personally, I go up and down. Sometimes I need to get alot of sleep, sleep, sleep, sleep. Other times I don't need much sleep at all. It's kinda one of those things where you go with the flow.

If I'm really motivated towards something I might not sleep for a long time and stay up and work on it. If I just finished something I might stay in and sleep. For me it's something that I let my body tell me, I don't try to change how iI feel to stay on a schedule. I adjust to my body to stay on schedule.
wicke
Don't sleep more or less. Sleep enough. And I think that everyone knows how much is enough for you. If you are tired when you wake up, you must sleep more to sleep enough.
rudi
I remember from school it should be not less than 7h and not more than 7.5h.

Anyway I have in my first year of study idea to gain some more additional time from shortage of sleeping. I realized that need at least 7h per day. Even if I "cheating" it came after me (during weekend). So now I take around 7.5h. and I feel quite recovered.

I think each who is dealing with this question should make some improvment in during-a-day-time organisation. Or try to sleep less for a week or a month and see if it works for him Idea
indianinworld
Either sleeping for more time
or
Sleeping for Less Time will not help you to give more out of Life.

Productivity is what which gains importance here.

It is quiet simple - Work, while you work : Sleep, while you sleep : and Play while you play and the list goes on and on...

Concentrate on work with Proven Commitment on any activity that you carry on.

People who work a Lot and provide a Hard work never win in their Life...

Only - People who Love their work and provide a Hard work win everything in their Life...

Keep smiling Smile

So - Let all of us Love everything and win everything...
ciaran27
I have the craziest sleep schedule at this point in my life. Most of it comes from my work schedule though. My job is performed out in retail stores. Some want their stores done while their employees are there so they don't have to pay them extra. Some don't want to bother their customers, so they do it before or after they open. It can take anywhere from 4 to 13 hours to complete a job in any one store. Makes for a much varied and ever changing sleep schedule Smile

I can go on the no sleep practive for a few days or so and then get lots of sleep all at once. It does start to wear on one after a while, so I can see the argument for regular sleep. I wish my duties to earn a living gave me the choice though. Longest I have ever been without sleep is just under 5 days, and I will say that is to much for me.

So add a "C All of the above" option, and I will cast my vote Smile
WeAlreadyHaveACult
.....Silence THIS Schemer, or what HAVE YOU......

1. Have you harnessed more than 5 vagrant foregrounds of astrakhan?
nope

2. Have you sewed your bridgework?
not until Nov.

3. Been to Chukchi?
yes, for carpel woodcocks

4. Carriageways done yet?
yes

5. Did someones clergy render you powerless with ague?
no

6. Why were you dirge-wanking when your lallygags wedgiest gadget took a drugging?
homomorphism....... Staci made me some drink w/ vodka, pucker... some juices irk me. after a couple i was gone

7. daycare setbacks?
yep

8. Weakened sharecropping?
yea

9. Betaken carjacking?
nope

10. Been agog to the bigwigs?
yep

11. In the backwater waging $200 for an overcooked ankh?
yep

12. Megawatt seamen negligee?
yep

13. Been an agent of statehood?
nope

14. Gone elbow hoarding?
nope

15. Kissed a Zimbabwean?
yep

16. Screwed in a slag heap, being elsewhere bejeweled?
yep

17. Overgrew a snug wigwam?
no

18. Sunk down with your organs hogtied?
pewee

19. Beguine in a bakery?
yep

20. Eschewed?
the dingiest thong sushi

21. Wedged semiweeklies into a cogwheel of decadent Negro evergreens?
No

22. Given over your seagull with a phony bowel?
nope

23. Been car-rolling in a twosome?
yup

24. Truelove in the Somme, do you dare?
yep

25. Gone smash wreathing your regent jets?
yep, done

26. Laxest hygienic bough shaft?
a bathwater fidget

27. Largest person you hoodwinked?
homonym.... trying to be rawer...... maybe to Awaken

28. Heehawed in a pushcart the last time your pew was deodorizing?
algebra


29. Did you cartwheel last Preseason?
Mechanically

30. Have you tweaked alcohol's timeworn effect in a right fine wager?
sahib, ragwort adagio

31. When was the last time you flanked a monologist in steerage with a flysheet?
in alleyways I feel stupid

32. Who was the tiredest packager to swagger you creamy?
the lowest waitpeople spew my cud.....

33. Who was more personable, the loggerheads that made you or the crackheads?
I made it with myself

34. Have you escaped during the workweek with morphine, leaving the lawsuit warehousing to chance?
Likely

35. Was the lamest persimmon you cawed with higher than this?
in the lineage

36. Who makes your megacycle the mellowest?
Misogyny and Pedagogy make my sinkhole a superhighway
tadssa
SocratesX wrote:
Quality above quantity!

People who sleep more, live longer (scientifically proven).


if only i can read about that !!! alone ? or .. Rolling Eyes
Greenie
i think you should sleep more. because if you sleep more, sure you have less time toget more out of life, but you can do more in the time you have.

but, if you sleep less you have more time to get more out of life, but can do less things.

does that mean that its the same either way. i don't know, thats why I'm asking you ppl. so what do you all think?
sibby
I think you just have to find your own rythm.

Try a week changing you sleeping habits (for instance: sleep only 4-5 hours if you usually sleep a lot, or sleep 8-9 hours if you are used to sleep less), and you'll see if sleep is important to you or not.

My own rythm: sleeping less at night (4-5 hours) so that you've got lots of time you can use for your hobbies (like being online, writing, reparing cars), but sleeping, if possible, 1-2 complementary hours during the day.
Matias
I Think that 8 hours of sleep is the best. The you have 16 hours to do whatever you want. From now on I will go to bed at 12 pm and wake up at 8 am.
pimpmycomputer
I GO TO BED AT AROUND 3 AM AND GET UP AT 7 AM AND IM FINE YOU DONT NEED MUCH SLEEP
MeTHoD-X
There is a way to get the best out of both worlds. You can be refreshed and sleep much less at the same time with the use of a prescription drug called modafinil.

"In trials on healthy people like Army helicopter pilots, modafinil has allowed humans to stay up safely for almost two days while remaining practically as focused, alert, and capable of dealing with complex problems as the well-rested. Then, after a good eight hours' sleep, they can get up and do it again -- for another 40 hours, before finally catching up on their sleep."

Modafinil is typically prescribed to people with narcolepsy and it is also prescribed off label for ADD/ADHD.

Check these sites out for more information:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A61282-2002Jun16&notFound=true
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modafinil
MadeinIndia
Most of the people who replied either seem to suggest to sleep more or sleep less, even the person who has posed the question seems to have forgot the obvious! Why can't you sleep what is required? Why are humans conditioned so much today to be in extremes? Whether it's in their likes, dislikes, religion etc etc, no one seems to be following a moderate/middle path! I understand that the pressure of living in such a competitive age does take us to the extremes, but we all got to understand one thing, mess with nature, it will mess us up...

Whether you want to be messed up or not is completely up to u...follow a healthy routine, sleep properly, eat properly, don't smoke, drink moderately and you will be able to enjoy your success much more! Live life, but don't lose it!

When was the last time you went to a park/picnic with ur loved ones and just spent some great moments? Forget expensive holidays...when was the last time you enjoyed the rain from your window with a hot cup of coffee? When was the last time you pursued a hobby that interests you tremendously? As a kid right? But when we grow up, we forget all the above and try to achieve something, but we all don't know what is that "something!"
SG25
I am sleeping less right now and I am on edge, it is not fun. I fonction a lot better if I sleep more.
omnis
I have been "training" myself to get up an hour earlier than usual and it's been working well. I am not as tired in the morning and feel like I accomplish a lot more than I used to.
corridor_writers
benwhite wrote:
There have been a number of studies, including a big one earlier this year that had strong evidence that people who sleep less do in fact live shorter lives on average. It's not because of some obvious thing like depressed immunity or event drug use, the causes are unknown. It could just be the wear and tear of being up to much shortens life because the body repairs itself during sleep. Either way, I always liked staying up late and still do, but 7-9 hours appears to be the magic number for most people.

That said, sleep as much as it takes to feel energized for the day.


I fully agree. You would not happen to have any links to these studies though would you? I think it would work well towards proving a (friendly) point to those of the opposite opinion. Smile
cnferntreegully
Not enough sleep are one of the main causes of liver damage.

Evening at 11pm - 1am: is the detoxification process
in the liver, and ideally should be done in a deep
sleep state.

Early morning 1 - 3am: detoxification process in the
gall, also ideally done in a deep sleep state.

More productivty or healthy body, which one do you choose?
jaime_thom
I'd have to say that I prefer to sleep less, but know that I should sleep more.

Oh well
GW_Addict
cnferntreegully wrote:
Not enough sleep are one of the main causes of liver damage.

Evening at 11pm - 1am: is the detoxification process
in the liver, and ideally should be done in a deep
sleep state.

Early morning 1 - 3am: detoxification process in the
gall, also ideally done in a deep sleep state.

More productivty or healthy body, which one do you choose?


Do you have anything to back this up? I am not saying I do not believe you, even though my vote is with sleep less and spend more time enjoying life. Quite the contrary – I would like to read more on this, if there is any evidence to support this. (I think I will go Google this too.)
handles
Cnferntreegully, I also find it difficult to agree with what you write about the body's built-in schedule. I do not believe it could be so strict -- how does my body know that it is 11pm in my time zone? what happens if I move to Tokyo? -- it seems more likely that it is based in routine.

If I regularly sleep from 4am to 1pm, then I expect my body would adjust to this changed time and run its internal cleaning processes whilst I am expected to be deeply asleep. Then, if I stayed awake during the specified time, I suppose my body would habitually run the cleaning processes despite that I am awake at the time.

Now if I slept from 4am to 1pm on Monday through Thursday and 1pm to 10pm Friday through Sunday, then my body would be confused. Should it detox from 6am to 8pm or 5pm to 7pm? How about 12-noon to 2pm, so I'd be asleep for half of the process?

I haven't studied anatomy or medicine to any great extent, but it seems to me that liver damage in this case is effected by irregular sleep patterns, not by lack of sleep between 11pm and 1am specifically.
chompi
the following link explains how much hours of sleep different people need:

http://health.yahoo.com/topic/sleep/overview/article/ninds/sleep_disorders_ninds_how_much_we_need

i hope this helps Smile nighty night
arkebuzer
Sleeping is overrated Razz

Still I sleep an avarage of like 12 hours on my free days (since I´m lazy and like to sleep) and like 4 hours when I have to go to work.
Warriorza
I sleep about 5 hours a day, but I'm only 13 and have to ride with my bike to school every morning (7:15 am) I don't think that it's healty what I do...
Warriorza
handles wrote:
Cnferntreegully, I also find it difficult to agree with what you write about the body's built-in schedule. I do not believe it could be so strict -- how does my body know that it is 11pm in my time zone? what happens if I move to Tokyo? -- it seems more likely that it is based in routine.

If I regularly sleep from 4am to 1pm, then I expect my body would adjust to this changed time and run its internal cleaning processes whilst I am expected to be deeply asleep. Then, if I stayed awake during the specified time, I suppose my body would habitually run the cleaning processes despite that I am awake at the time.

Now if I slept from 4am to 1pm on Monday through Thursday and 1pm to 10pm Friday through Sunday, then my body would be confused. Should it detox from 6am to 8pm or 5pm to 7pm? How about 12-noon to 2pm, so I'd be asleep for half of the process?

I haven't studied anatomy or medicine to any great extent, but it seems to me that liver damage in this case is effected by irregular sleep patterns, not by lack of sleep between 11pm and 1am specifically.


Dude, I think that's just jet-lag what you're talking about. Smile
elincinerador
none. sleep 8 hours. when i sleep less i feel tired because i havent slept enogh, and if i sleep more i am tired the rest of the day because i have the inertia... but it has to be proportional, if i sleep 8 hours, not more than 8 hours have to be of hard work... (i know that's what medicine says.. but it aplies to me perfectly)
windgrassmedia
sleeping more, just means more time to party!, i find that even when I get more sleep I'm still just as tired the next day so why night stay up later to get more stuff done?
zenkirevolutions
I have a radical sleep pattern, I sleep alot, and don't get much done.

I am willing to change to meet the accelerating speed of todays world.

Anyone ever read about the sleep patterns of the two great inventors of the 20th century?

Nikola Tesla and Thomas Edison slept a mere 4 hours of deep sleep a day and spent the rest inventing... theyd just lean back in reclined chairs too, there were two weird individuals, tesla especially, though thanks to edison we have light, and to tesla we have everything else we love about life in the modern age.. internet, wireless, a/c electric.

They may have been onto something, from the story I was told about them, it wasn't an ordinary doze off for 4 hours... they would do relaxation exercises, starting by consciously becomming aware of each part of their body one body part at a time, and telling it to relax, followed by mental visualizations..
Sounds like meditation... indeed it was... tesla... was a great visionary...

He would imagine building an invention in his head, and see every flaw etc about it, and work out all the bugs then build it right the first time... sound too crazy to be true? look it up yourself!

Maybe with less sleep we can do MUCH more, especially with the right mindset.
nico
I haven't slept for a long time and I f**cking knackered. Can't say I enjoy life right now. I am Absolutely zombified to the extreme. My eyes are self closing themselves. My brain is producing only utter rubbish stuff (that's not unusual for me though). I can't evven writte propprly. Take it from me who is having the live experience of being close to coma. It is not that great.

Sleep is a wonderful thing. I can't wait to be in my nice soft bed with my nice duvet. I'm going right now this minute. Good night.
mrmugger
Yes, it might be true that if we sleep less, we would have more time to accomplish more things in life. I ever read that we spent 1/3 of our time sleeping so the average lifespan of each person is around 75, so we sleep away 25 years and spend 50 years awake. We might have much more time to do 30% -50% more of things. However, think about it, if we do not sleep for more than 6 days, we would simply have no energy to work and drop down dog-tired. Sleep provides us with a lot of energy and it is good that we lavish on it. Though some time might be spent, but the end result of being more refreshed is better then during our free time, we can concentrate better and achieve more. There is no such thing as someone with not enough time, only someone who cannot manage his time.
OldmanJ
I say sleep when you're tired. That's it.
corridor_writers
zenkirevolutions wrote:
I have a radical sleep pattern, I sleep alot, and don't get much done.

I am willing to change to meet the accelerating speed of todays world.

Anyone ever read about the sleep patterns of the two great inventors of the 20th century?

Nikola Tesla and Thomas Edison slept a mere 4 hours of deep sleep a day and spent the rest inventing... theyd just lean back in reclined chairs too, there were two weird individuals, tesla especially, though thanks to edison we have light, and to tesla we have everything else we love about life in the modern age.. internet, wireless, a/c electric.

They may have been onto something, from the story I was told about them, it wasn't an ordinary doze off for 4 hours... they would do relaxation exercises, starting by consciously becomming aware of each part of their body one body part at a time, and telling it to relax, followed by mental visualizations..
Sounds like meditation... indeed it was... tesla... was a great visionary...

He would imagine building an invention in his head, and see every flaw etc about it, and work out all the bugs then build it right the first time... sound too crazy to be true? look it up yourself!

Maybe with less sleep we can do MUCH more, especially with the right mindset.



Wow - as a huge proponent of people getting enough sleep, and also somebody intentionally ignoring all of the obviously juvenile kids on here saying that they like less sleep just to party more, I have to admit that this is the first real argument on this post that has urged me to review my stand-point on the subject of getting a full nights sleep.

Now what I became REALLY curious about were the sleeping habits of other famous genius-type people like Einstein. On that latter note, I found that was a notoriously long sleeper, sleeping well over nine hours per night.

So, it seems the pendulum swings both way. In fact, the same article disusing sleep deprivation studies mentions Einstein, Tesla, and Edison.

Check it out yourself….just search the page for one of the above three people. There are also a lot of other references on this if you want to google it. Smile

http://www.supermemo.com/articles/sleep.htm
fx-trading-education
Quote:
If I regularly sleep from 4am to 1pm, then I expect my body would adjust to this changed time and run its internal cleaning processes whilst I am expected to be deeply asleep. Then, if I stayed awake during the specified time, I suppose my body would habitually run the cleaning processes despite that I am awake at the time.


That is not a goo idea. The quality of sleep depends on the time (your local time zone) because your day is also rythmed by tha change day / night. If you train to sleep during the day instead of the night the quality of your sleep will be much less.

An example is for instance people who stayed in caves for months without seeing the day light change their rythm. they didn't sleep for instance 8hours every24 hours but someting like 14 hours every 40 hours.

So what is very important is not only what your body request but also to follow the rythm of the sun.
mhcjsquires
I set my alarm even when I don't have to be/do somewhere/something. I can't stand sleeping more than like 8 hours. On the weekends, I usually only sleep like 5-6 hours a night. There is so much life to be lived. LIVE IT UP.
seej
Sleep more........surely.
Life is about quality rather than quantity.Its like better send one lion to the battle field then a 100 sheeps.A fresh mind in my energetic self can do 10 times the work that a tired mind in an exhausted me can do.
Wink
bluecradle
sleep less, to get more eyebags...
sleep more, to be unproductive...
i guess 6-7hrs of sleep is enough for an adult Rolling Eyes
corridor_writers
bluecradle wrote:
sleep less, to get more eyebags...
sleep more, to be unproductive...
i guess 6-7hrs of sleep is enough for an adult Rolling Eyes


Which can be summed up by saying "do what's right for you and your body - everybody is different." Smile
jenice
Over time in my life, I've found that I can get more out of my life by getting a full night sleep. In my youth, I would get less sleep. I'll also tell you that I cruised through life during that time. There's much that I don't remember. Why? I was so damned tired to ever pay attention to anything going on around me other than what I needed to get done.

These days I just can't function and enjoy my day if I'm tired. I need my sleep. I need my dreams to help me work through problems running around in my mind. I need that break in my day to recharge.

If I manage my time well, I can work more efficiently especially considering that I'm fully aware and mentally recharged at the beginnging of each day.

Of course, I've paid attention to studies over the years. My sociology teacher in junior high told us about a study a friend of his did in college. It covered the effects of no sleep over time. In the end she was so out of it she was hallucinating.

There have been others I've seen where they tried breaking up your sleep schedule into small shifts where you take frequent naps. The results from that ended with less mental instability, but the participants still felt a gradual lessening in their awareness.

Honestly though, I can't go by what the studies tell me. I can only go by what I personally feel about how much I can accomplish in a day, and how much sleep I'll need to do that. Part of that for me is prescriptions I'm taking. One side effect is that they put me to sleep, and I can't function with full clarity without getting at least six hours.

It hasn't always been that way for me though, and in the past I've suffered insomnia. The comparisons between getting a full night sleep and the times that I had insomnia are drastic for me. I'm getting a lot more done, I'm more stable emotionally, and I'm better able to handle stress as it comes.
corridor_writers
jenice wrote:
Over time in my life, I've found that I can get more out of my life by getting a full night sleep. In my youth, I would get less sleep. I'll also tell you that I cruised through life during that time. There's much that I don't remember. Why? I was so damned tired to ever pay attention to anything going on around me other than what I needed to get done.

These days I just can't function and enjoy my day if I'm tired. I need my sleep. I need my dreams to help me work through problems running around in my mind. I need that break in my day to recharge.

If I manage my time well, I can work more efficiently especially considering that I'm fully aware and mentally recharged at the beginnging of each day.

Of course, I've paid attention to studies over the years. My sociology teacher in junior high told us about a study a friend of his did in college. It covered the effects of no sleep over time. In the end she was so out of it she was hallucinating.

There have been others I've seen where they tried breaking up your sleep schedule into small shifts where you take frequent naps. The results from that ended with less mental instability, but the participants still felt a gradual lessening in their awareness.

Honestly though, I can't go by what the studies tell me. I can only go by what I personally feel about how much I can accomplish in a day, and how much sleep I'll need to do that. Part of that for me is prescriptions I'm taking. One side effect is that they put me to sleep, and I can't function with full clarity without getting at least six hours.

It hasn't always been that way for me though, and in the past I've suffered insomnia. The comparisons between getting a full night sleep and the times that I had insomnia are drastic for me. I'm getting a lot more done, I'm more stable emotionally, and I'm better able to handle stress as it comes.


I wholly agree. Not only is it much of “what works for you” but our physiology definitely changes over time (as we grow older – ugg)
multypersonality
i vote for sleeping more xD
cause i like dreaming, and resting lol
sonalobramo
I think it's a little more complicated. Depends on the person's exercise habits, eating habits, etc. Basically, how healthy you are in every other aspect of your life.
I think if you eat right, exercise enough (but not too much), live a life that does not involve too much stress than you might be able to pull it off without feeling more tired.
the_mariska
Whooah, for the last few days I've been sleeping about 4 hours a day.. and I'm running out of energy. And this topic reminded me that I feel sleepy. Wink Thank you, gotta go to bed, it's half past midnight here.

That's weird. Lately me and my friends have proven that sleeping to little is less tiring than sleeping too much. And those 4 hours were cosidered as the perfect interval for this 'too little'. I can see that there must be come gaps in this theory, or it just works over short terms.. Laughing
palavra
its up to when you are sleeping.

i think if anyone sleep 5 hours in the nights

and 1/2 hour after the lunch

it will get a perfect order of sleeping
corridor_writers
palavra wrote:
its up to when you are sleeping.

i think if anyone sleep 5 hours in the nights

and 1/2 hour after the lunch

it will get a perfect order of sleeping


lol - or maybe cats have the right idea. Just 10 minutes here and there when you get a little tired, and very few actual long 'blocks' of sleep. Smile
JTAV
I'm not sure if anyone else has mentioned this but this thread makes me think of an episode of Seinfeld where Kramer cuts right down on his sleep...

Seem to remember it didn't work out too well for him!!!!
corridor_writers
In an attempt to put this debate to 'bed'.... (or perhaps to fuel it to greteer heights) I would like to share the excerpt from an article called “The Effects of Sleep Deprivation on Brain and Behavior” written by Sarah Ledoux.

The URL for those wishing to read the full (and rather long) article is:
http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/neuro/neuro01/web3/Ledoux.html

“Sleep deprivation is a commonplace occurrence in modern culture. Every day there seems to be twice as much work and half as much time to complete it in. This results in either extended periods of wakefulness or a decrease in sleep over an extended period of time. While some people may like to believe that they can train their bodies to not require as much sleep as they once did this belief is false (1). Sleep is needed to regenerate certain parts of the body, especially the brain, so that it may continue to function optimally. After periods of extended wakefulness or reduced sleep neurons may begin to malfunction, visibly effecting a person's behavior. Some organs, such as muscles, are able to regenerate even when a person is not sleeping so long as they are resting. This could involve lying awake but relaxed within a quite environment. Even though cognitive functions might not seem necessary in this scenario the brain, especially the cerebral cortex, is not able to rest but rather remains semi-alert in a state of "quiet readiness" (2). Certain stages of sleep are needed for the regeneration of neurons within the cerebral cortex while other stages of sleep seem to be used for forming new memories and generating new synaptic connections. The effects of sleep deprivation on behavior have been tested with relation to the presence of activity in different sections of the cerebral cortex.” - Sarah Ledoux.
corridor_writers
This is a continuation of the previous post, from an article called “The Effects of Sleep Deprivation on Brain and Behavior” written by Sarah Ledoux.

The URL for those wishing to read the full (and rather long) article is:
http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/neuro/neuro01/web3/Ledoux.html

Quote:
One of the possible side effects of a continued lack of sleep is death. Usually this is the result of the fact that the immune system is weakened without sleep. The number of white blood cells within the body decreases, as does the activity of the remaining white blood cells. The body also decreases the amount of growth hormone produced (Cool. The ability of the body to metabolize sugar declines, turning sugar into fat. One study stated that people who sleep less than four hours per night are three times more likely to die within the next six years. Although the longest a human has remained awake was eleven days rats that are continually deprived of sleep die within two to five weeks, generally due to their severely weakened immune system.


Edit: Quote tags added by Max
ninjakannon
corridor_writers, you should have quoted that stuff by Sarah Ledoux using the quote tags.
Afaceinthematrix
I've always been in that mineset. If you live to be 90 and sleep 8 hours a day, you'll spend 30 years sleeping. But if you live to be 90 and only sleep 6 hours a day, you'll only sleep for 22.5 years You'll be saving 7.5 years. I try to sleep around 6 hours a day. I don't like sleeping more. I get up at 7:00 AM for school so I have to go to bed at at least 1:00...
traum
Being 'tired' is not the outcome of a person 'not getting enough sleep'. If you keep to a strict schedule, you could get 6 hours of sleep a night and feel fully energized in the morning. This requires some dicipline (no staying up untill 4 in the morning playing counterstrike on friday and saturday). Studies have been done that basically boil down to show that we have a 'sleep cycle', best represented as a sine wave. An organ in your brain starts to kick out chemicals at about the time you usually go to bed, thus making you sleepy. Most people that go to bed and wake up at the same time (have a regulated sleep schedule) will tell you that they wake up slightly before thier alarm goes off. This is because thier 'sleep cycle has peaked out, and this is when thier body is ready for them to wake up.

My basis for my entry is a boiled down version of articles and documents that i've read from recommended reading from NFAS at NNPTC. I've tried the suggestions (the same that i've given you) and have found them to work well.
corridor_writers
traum wrote:
Being 'tired' is not the outcome of a person 'not getting enough sleep'. If you keep to a strict schedule, you could get 6 hours of sleep a night and feel fully energized in the morning. This requires some dicipline (no staying up untill 4 in the morning playing counterstrike on friday and saturday). Studies have been done that basically boil down to show that we have a 'sleep cycle', best represented as a sine wave. An organ in your brain starts to kick out chemicals at about the time you usually go to bed, thus making you sleepy. Most people that go to bed and wake up at the same time (have a regulated sleep schedule) will tell you that they wake up slightly before thier alarm goes off. This is because thier 'sleep cycle has peaked out, and this is when thier body is ready for them to wake up.

My basis for my entry is a boiled down version of articles and documents that i've read from recommended reading from NFAS at NNPTC. I've tried the suggestions (the same that i've given you) and have found them to work well.


Wow - this is the first argument I have read on this post that would persuade me to even consider a stand-point different from the one I have taken and backed up with articles as well (which is that not enough sleep is bad for you.)

When you look at this argument not just from the point of view of sleep or not to sleep, and look at it in the sense that you have laid out; it makes a lot more sense that you CAN actually sleep less, get more out of life, and NOT deprive yourself of much needed sleep.

That’s it – it’s a strict, disciplined sleep cycle for me…..

Or at least that will make for another good resolution for next year… right up there with the dieting and exercise…. Smile
The3dx
hmmm...you have to sleep atleast 6 hours for recomended energy for your body...less then that is not good...and more then 8 hours is not good either...just slep 6 hours and that will do .. Wink
Warriorza
Ow, I thought 8 hours was minimum for good functionality. Laughing
Well, I'm coming closer to a heatlhy life then. Razz
ninjakannon
Warriorza wrote:
Ow, I thought 8 hours was minimum for good functionality.

It is recommended that you get around 8 hours of sleep a day but you must remember that not everyone is the same. Some people can survive healthily on less and some will be absolutely fine when they've had 10 hours. It just depends on who you are.

The best thing to do is find out the optimum amount of sleep you need yourself and then stick to a regular sleep pattern.
missdixy
Hogwarts wrote:
I have a theory Idea . If you sleep less, you have more time to get more out of life (I suggest spending all your extra time on FriHost). But if you sleep less, you have less energy to live life. What are your opinions?


I've followed your theory since I was in middle school and it's worked fine for me. I usually take care of my social life after school and then focus on doing 2 or 3 hours of homework starting at around midnightish. (After I shower, since I usually get home or my friends leave at 11ish) My normal sleeping hours are usually 2 or 3 in the morning till 6 or 7 a.m. Though, there are some nights where I just need more sleep and then I won't go out and instead will slep from 9 or 10 until 6.

Anyhow, Ithe sleep less live more theory has worked for me. But, I know that's not the case for everyone.
corridor_writers
ninjakannon wrote:
corridor_writers, you should have quoted that stuff by Sarah Ledoux using the quote tags.


Oops, my bad. I thought I had. Trust me, I am a stickler for intellectual property and copyrights, and would never intentionally misquote (or in this case un-quote somebody.

My apologies. And thanks for fixing it max.
chrismen
Wow I just made those poll exactly even. I hate sleeping when I am not in bed. I don't like to sleep unless I am already in bed awaking up in which case I love to do nothing else.

I would just like to add something interesting I learned in my Psych class. There was a study that found that people who sleep more have a tendency to live longer then those who sleep more. Anyways, I thought this was very interesting but remember that the correlation may have a third variable which contributes to people sleeping less and living more that is not affected by either of the two.
ninjakannon
chrismen wrote:
I would just like to add something interesting I learned in my Psych class. There was a study that found that people who sleep more have a tendency to live longer then those who sleep more.

I think you meant to end that with "less", not "more".

Change it... Quick! I don't think anyone else has noticed yet. Razz
chrismen
ninjakannon wrote:
chrismen wrote:
I would just like to add something interesting I learned in my Psych class. There was a study that found that people who sleep more have a tendency to live longer then those who sleep more.

I think you meant to end that with "less", not "more".

Change it... Quick! I don't think anyone else has noticed yet. Razz

LOL, yes that doesn't make sense at all. Those who sleep less live longer than those who sleep more.
baronblod2007
Well, I mean that if you sleep less, you have more time to do stuff U want to.
Of course you must sleep, but sleep less, and not to 4 o'clock in the middle of the day. But sleep until the clock is max 9.
Thats my max at least Wink

I have heard a theory, that if you sleep 20 min. each fourth hour, you should be able to go on like normal.
Havent testet it, but it seems reasonable. Cool

You will be very tired the first week, if anyone desides to test it.
Well, that just about sums it up Very Happy
corridor_writers
So this raises the next question. Sleep more, live longer but do less; or sleep less, do more, die sooner.

Which raises the next question. If ‘living’ is defined on the activities you do while you are awake, would sleeping less not mean you are actually living more (or rather using more time living.).

Wow, there is a paradox for you. Smile

Though I am still a proponent for sleeping more and being healthy, I thought it would be fun to play the Devil’s Advocate on this one. Smile
The-Nisk
Sleep is very important to us. I enjoy a long sleep but i think an individul should only get as much sleep as they physicaly need (except some special occasions). I have experience of having a long sleep, then waking up and nothing left to do, basicly a waste of a day. i prefer to get up at a reasonably time and do as much as possible in a day. And it has to be less sleep to live life to the full, because i think the meaning of life is not sleeping.
kevbailey
Wow, that is a really close poll. I voted more sleep, because I find that when I am well rested, I automatically get more out of life.
bongoman
This is a pretty interesting topic, considering the fact that I have had this pretty strong insomnia for the last little while. It would be nice to be able to go around with little sleep, but then again there's allot that sleep offers to the brain.

Of course it is difficult with the sort of lives we lead to sleep properly in this modern world, the kinds of hours we live in a day, and the need to always do something all the time.
smarter
People are different but usually less sleep is better.

6 or 9 hours of sleep for me have the same efect. If I sleep less than 6 hours I tend to feel sleepy next evening.

I also noticed that sleeping at night is better than in the morning or daytime. Biorhythm or something!
ninjakannon
smarter wrote:
I also noticed that sleeping at night is better than in the morning or daytime.

I would have thought that it would be okay to sleep during the day if you were 100% nocturnal; if you just sleep in the daytime every day for a week then you'll not get the same affect as you would if you did it for a year.
corridor_writers
bongoman wrote:
This is a pretty interesting topic, considering the fact that I have had this pretty strong insomnia for the last little while. It would be nice to be able to go around with little sleep, but then again there's allot that sleep offers to the brain.

Of course it is difficult with the sort of lives we lead to sleep properly in this modern world, the kinds of hours we live in a day, and the need to always do something all the time.


Agreed. I voted for more sleep as well, and am a proponent for getting a full nights rest. That said though - I for one would love to be able to not HAVE to have sleep to function. Imagine what you could accomplish if your body did not rely on sleep to regererate itself. Smile
divinitywolf
I think sleeping is a waste of life apart from recharging your body and mind. I mean i get up at like 8 at weekends and go to sleep at about 11 so i dont get that much sleep but still the reccomended amount. I dont think we should waste our lives away sleeping.
Jaan
If you're growing lessay under 21 then you mosdef need to sleep lots to do well. BECASUE YOUR ARE ASTILL GAROWNING.
Stay clean, stay strong, have fun with your friends!
squirrelmaster
some people sleep in on weekends to 'catch up' on sleep, but they sleep like 12 hours, is that healthy?

me, i want to enjoy my weekends, especially if i work part of it, because i still have so much to do i need to get up at a reasonable time, though i do sleep just a little extra on weekends like 30 mins sometimes, but i don't sleep in for hours like some people Wink

I don't stay up late to get more out of life, i get up early so I guess im a morning person after all Razz
ninjakannon
squirrelmaster wrote:
some people sleep in on weekends to 'catch up' on sleep, but they sleep like 12 hours, is that healthy?

Well, it's out of routine, so no? I'm not sure whether your body can get sued to 5 days of a certain length of sleep and 2 odd days with another different length of sleeping. Perhaps it can, I'm sure though that it's better for your body if you get regular amounts of sleep.

I often (I say this because although I may get up earlier, I may also go to bed later) sleep for longer at weekends and I must say that sometimes I'll wake up after 10 hours sleep and feel terribly tired, yet I can be 100% awake and attentive after only 4 hours sleep.
Colin496
One of the common themes among responses in this thread is that everyone is different and that we all respond differently to different amounts of sleep. This is true, but what does this mean?

This means that if you are really concerned about sleep, stop reading forums about it and start experimenting. It only takes a month or two to approximately figure out what your optimal sleep cycle is. Start an excel spreadsheet and record your hours of sleep each night. Keep a journal regarding tiredness, alertness, and mood. Try to be scientific, determine preset hours for each week. Eventually, you will find your answer, and it will not inconvenience you very much to find it.

Good luck.
cmfi_germany
I red this in a book:

If you sleep 8 hours daily, and if you live 75 years, you´ll have spent 25 years of your life Sleeping.

Sometimes , statistiques and numbers speak lauter than ideas.



well, so it´s good and important for me to sleep. But Sleeping should´nt be my god, it should not be the thing i´m the must faithfull to.
ninjakannon
cmfi_germany wrote:
I red this in a book:

If you sleep 8 hours daily, and if you live 75 years, you´ll have spent 25 years of your life Sleeping.

I just worked out:

If you spend 16 hours a day on the computer every day for 75 years you'll have spent 50 years on the computer. Or 243 (and a third) days a year on the computer.

Sleep is good for you, you need those 25 years. You can't complain about wasting your time asleep when you actually waste time doing loads of pointless things.

There are some people who spend 18+ hours a day on online games and the rest of the time sleeping and they think that the sleep is a waste of time.
random
I hardly sleep at all and apart from constantly being cranky i'm fine *twitches*
corridor_writers
ninjakannon wrote:
cmfi_germany wrote:
I red this in a book:

If you sleep 8 hours daily, and if you live 75 years, you´ll have spent 25 years of your life Sleeping.

I just worked out:

If you spend 16 hours a day on the computer every day for 75 years you'll have spent 50 years on the computer. Or 243 (and a third) days a year on the computer.

Sleep is good for you, you need those 25 years. You can't complain about wasting your time asleep when you actually waste time doing loads of pointless things.

There are some people who spend 18+ hours a day on online games and the rest of the time sleeping and they think that the sleep is a waste of time.


lol - your right of course - though I think those of us who work on a computer spend more like 70 years of our lives o them. Wink

Two other things. One - I think everything that can be said about this topic has officially been said somewhere in this topic (basically that everyone is different in terms of their needs etc.) Second, I love to sleep. I enjoy the relaxation and dreaming that can only come from a good, solid nights sleep. Smile

nuff said....
ninjakannon
corridor_writers wrote:
lol - your right of course - though I think those of us who work on a computer spend more like 70 years of our lives o them. Wink

I find that very scary, and shocking. Just imagine how unhealthy we all are, and why the more economically developed countries have fattening as well as aging populations.

corridor_writers wrote:
I think everything that can be said about this topic has officially been said somewhere in this topic

So perhaps it's finally time to lock this? You are right, none of the new posts here have said anything of any value as it's all been said.

If someone really has something important to say and this is locked they can always request it to be unlocked.
corridor_writers
ninjakannon wrote:
corridor_writers wrote:
lol - your right of course - though I think those of us who work on a computer spend more like 70 years of our lives o them. Wink

I find that very scary, and shocking. Just imagine how unhealthy we all are, and why the more economically developed countries have fattening as well as aging populations.

corridor_writers wrote:
I think everything that can be said about this topic has officially been said somewhere in this topic

So perhaps it's finally time to lock this? You are right, none of the new posts here have said anything of any value as it's all been said.

If someone really has something important to say and this is locked they can always request it to be unlocked.


Agreed - on both points Smile
ncphysio
the_mariska wrote:
Definitely sleep more. After two almost sleepless nights I look exactly like zombie, and feel even worse. The best thing I do before any exam is to go to bed early the night before. That really helps a lot Smile


Really? I'm in 24 hour wrap-around mode by the day of the exam. I usually haven't slept in around 36 hours and have enough caffeine in me to run a small city. For some reason that seems to work for me.

NB once the exam's over i usually collapse in a heap and sleep for around 2 days straight.
ninjakannon
ncphysio wrote:
the_mariska wrote:
Definitely sleep more. After two almost sleepless nights I look exactly like zombie, and feel even worse. The best thing I do before any exam is to go to bed early the night before. That really helps a lot Smile


Really? I'm in 24 hour wrap-around mode by the day of the exam. I usually haven't slept in around 36 hours and have enough caffeine in me to run a small city. For some reason that seems to work for me.

NB once the exam's over i usually collapse in a heap and sleep for around 2 days straight.

That's really bad for your health though ncphysio. It's good just to keep a dead regular sleeping pattern and I think you'll find you should actually be in really good condition for exams.

That said, I find that after staying up all night, there's a good chance that I'll wake up and be really awake for any exams in the morning. But I'll be half asleep by the time it gets to the afternoon. I also find that if I go to bed really late and then sleep for around 4 - 6 hours I'll be really awake for most of the day, which is interesting. The opposite happens when I go to bed really early (unless I'm already seriously tired), I feel terribly tired the following day.

The problem is that none of these tactics are good for times when you have lots of exams, over a period of time. Even if you've got some method of ensuring that you're really awake the following day, you'll find that your lack of sleep will catch you up and you'll be terribly tired for some of your exams.

I just go to bed and get up at roughly the same time every day (and make it sensible) and I find I'm awake enough to do my exams; I actually think far slower when I'm tired so I've got to be really careful not to be tired for my exams.
pavlov2002
Aerial are you talking about me? Smile
I sleep as little as 5 hours per day since I was 15 and now I'm 32 and I don't have any trouble yet...oh...what were we talking about?...can't remember

Smile)
corridor_writers
This has got to be the most back-and-forth post on Frihost. Smile

It's good, it's bad, it's good, it's bad.... Smile
EanofAthenasPrime
Not sleeping will simply delay the perceived time until your death arrives. However, sleeping, although it will accelerate time, can be better than reality. Either way, you will still eventually die.
corridor_writers
EanofAthenasPrime wrote:
Not sleeping will simply delay the perceived time until your death arrives. However, sleeping, although it will accelerate time, can be better than reality. Either way, you will still eventually die.


Wow....that is a very, very good way to look at it. Well said. Smile
smartpandian
A short good sleep is better than a long irregular sleep..
Arnie
corridor_writers wrote:
This has got to be the most back-and-forth post on Frihost. Smile

It's good, it's bad, it's good, it's bad.... Smile
Now that you mention it, I recently read in a Dutch quality newspaper that scientists are disputing this very matter. Some say we can be trained to need less sleep, others say the modern society is deprived of sleep.
aaron821
This is just from personal experience if I get too much sleep then I am still sleepy when I first get up. I can not function if I have not had any sleep and I can not focus as accurately as if I had a full night sleep. I haven't had my best rest lately but when I do It's because I didn't have to wake up in the middle of the night to eat, potty or trying to relieve my dry mouth.
liljp617
You cannot live healthily without adequate amounts of sleep and a consistent sleeping schedule. You must sleep long enough to reach REM and get through all the different stages of sleep. If you don't, your life will be no better than if you were to sleep less and spend more time doing other stuff...you'd be sick constantly and in bad health in general.
corridor_writers
liljp617 wrote:
You cannot live healthily without adequate amounts of sleep and a consistent sleeping schedule. You must sleep long enough to reach REM and get through all the different stages of sleep. If you don't, your life will be no better than if you were to sleep less and spend more time doing other stuff...you'd be sick constantly and in bad health in general.


Well said. As much as the argument swings back an forth on this post - and as much as people state their personal preferences for sleep habits - the medical community and the scientific fact all agree that a good nights rest is critical to well being. That said, it is also true that a good nights sleep may mean different things for different age groups (younger adolescents need more than senior citizens for example.)
videoguy
Quote:
Quote:
You cannot live healthily without adequate amounts of sleep and a consistent sleeping schedule. You must sleep long enough to reach REM and get through all the different stages of sleep. If you don't, your life will be no better than if you were to sleep less and spend more time doing other stuff...you'd be sick constantly and in bad health in general.



Well said. As much as the argument swings back an forth on this post - and as much as people state their personal preferences for sleep habits - the medical community and the scientific fact all agree that a good nights rest is critical to well being. That said, it is also true that a good nights sleep may mean different things for different age groups (younger adolescents need more than senior citizens for example.)"


I agree. even if you can do more with less sleep, the time you are awake will not be a good because you will feel tired. Id rather have less time but have it alot better

edit by rvec: please use quote tags when quoting
Felixurban
Generally I can function on very little sleep but it's very much the law of diminishing returns (the longer I function on little sleep the harder it is to function and I crash). The real trick, for me anyway, is to know when to hold'em and know when to fold'em. Wink
rvec
I think the best thing to do is stay up 36 hours and then sleep 12. For 36 hours most people need some coffee or cola but This way I think you'll get the most out of your life. I always wanted to try it for a couple of weeks but since school doesn't want me to continue my experiment (I might miss some classes), I still wasn't able to test it out. Maybe this vacation.
qwyx
If you sleep more, you can stay up long. More out of life + you have a fresh brain for perfect thinking.
If you sleep less, you're tired and you could'nt think good.
liljp617
rvec wrote:
I think the best thing to do is stay up 36 hours and then sleep 12. For 36 hours most people need some coffee or cola but This way I think you'll get the most out of your life. I always wanted to try it for a couple of weeks but since school doesn't want me to continue my experiment (I might miss some classes), I still wasn't able to test it out. Maybe this vacation.

In no way what so ever can you state that schedule is healthy. Sleeping for half a day will never make up for the other half that you missed...the ratio and balance will still be completely off. Pretty sure nobody will want to be around you after you do that for a week or so and have fun getting sick...there's really no avoiding it if you think that schedule will work. I think you should read up on what your body does while you're asleep before you experiment with this.
Bikerman
rvec wrote:
I think the best thing to do is stay up 36 hours and then sleep 12. For 36 hours most people need some coffee or cola but This way I think you'll get the most out of your life. I always wanted to try it for a couple of weeks but since school doesn't want me to continue my experiment (I might miss some classes), I still wasn't able to test it out. Maybe this vacation.

OK...here's a personal insight which may help.
I suffer from bi-polar illness (used to be called manic-depressive). During my manic periods I would* frequently stay up for 48 hours or more at a stretch during which time I often noted the physiological effects (because I'm a scientist at heart). These included (in the order in which they occurred):
  • 1) Poor response times (after about 24 hours)
  • 2) Poor judgement/decision making (after about 24-30 hours)
  • 3) Auditory hallucinations (after about 30-40 hours)
  • 4) Visual/tactile hallucinations (after 40+ hours)
From my own experience, therefore, I would say that adjusting your sleep-cycle so radically is almost certainly a bad idea. There is plenty of medical evidence to back this up, but I thought a more subjective and personal account might be more persuasive...

*I now take medication which means I no longer experience the mania (and, to be perfectly honest, I miss it sometimes), but more importantly I no longer have the deep depressive cycle either.
HealingHands5
Sleep is very essential to humans. Researches have shown that people who get at least 8 hours of sleep each night, function better at their jobs; live healthier lives, are more physically inbalance and formulate and foster better relationships.

I believe if you sleep more, you will get more out of life, and you will live longer to enjoy your life more abundantly; and so will your loved ones.
videoguy
thanks for the big text HealingHands5!

i read an article in wired that said that you can train yourself to only sleep 2 hours a day by getting REM sleep during 20 min naps every 4 hours. it said people in NASA and people that have to be awake as much as possible do this. but the first week of changeing sleep patterns is hell.......
corridor_writers
videoguy wrote:
thanks for the big text HealingHands5!

i read an article in wired that said that you can train yourself to only sleep 2 hours a day by getting REM sleep during 20 min naps every 4 hours. it said people in NASA and people that have to be awake as much as possible do this. but the first week of changeing sleep patterns is hell.......


Yuck….I could imagine…..
Fake
I guess u need to Sleep more to get more out of life. A body with good amout of rest will mean that u are able to work more efficiently
Otherwise u are like a walking xombie
tidruG
I can confirm that sleeping more helps. I've been getting less sleep these past few days, and I find it difficult to concentrate on my classes. After I come home, I feel too tired to work on my assignments, etc etc.

However, that said, I think everyone has different sleep requirements. So if you're able to put in a good day of work after a 5-hour sleep, then good for you! As for me, I think I need at least 6 hours of sleep at an average. I can go with only 3-4 hours of sleep for a few days, but it eventually catches up to me.
EanofAthenasPrime
Live less to get more out of sleep. The dream world is where I should be.
roxys_art
Haven't read through all the responses, but you would have to define what you mean by "sleeping less." Does sleeping less mean getting 2 to 3 hours of sleep per day? Because this is very unhealthy. Sleep refreshes the body, boosts your immune system, and heals your body. If you don't get enough sleep every night, chances are you won't be feeling good soon.

I would always recommend getting AT LEAST 6 hours of sleep per day. But each individual person has to figure out what their optimum amount of sleep is. Mine is around 7 to 8 hours of sleep. Anymore and I feel out of it, and sometimes get a headache from sleeping too much.
whitehole
7-8 hours a night or your brain isn't getting what it needs(as well as the rest of your body). Cut out time sinks like TV if you want to get more out of life. Spending time with friends and family, accomplishing your dreams, and doing things that better yourself or others are things you'll get the most out of.
vipin
i think we can get more if we explore something new instead of just sitting idle at night..
like browsing on net instead of chatting..
i think thats why i dont like chatting..
Afaceinthematrix
whitehole wrote:
7-8 hours a night or your brain isn't getting what it needs(as well as the rest of your body). Cut out time sinks like TV if you want to get more out of life. Spending time with friends and family, accomplishing your dreams, and doing things that better yourself or others are things you'll get the most out of.


That may be fine for you, but everyone is different. I need 5-6 hours for my brain to get what it needs.
liljp617
Afaceinthematrix wrote:
whitehole wrote:
7-8 hours a night or your brain isn't getting what it needs(as well as the rest of your body). Cut out time sinks like TV if you want to get more out of life. Spending time with friends and family, accomplishing your dreams, and doing things that better yourself or others are things you'll get the most out of.


That may be fine for you, but everyone is different. I need 5-6 hours for my brain to get what it needs.

Smile It all eventually catches up. That principle applies to everyone. It may take some years, but it will eventually catch up. And sleep isn't just about your brain...that's hardly what it's about.
Afaceinthematrix
liljp617 wrote:
Afaceinthematrix wrote:
whitehole wrote:
7-8 hours a night or your brain isn't getting what it needs(as well as the rest of your body). Cut out time sinks like TV if you want to get more out of life. Spending time with friends and family, accomplishing your dreams, and doing things that better yourself or others are things you'll get the most out of.


That may be fine for you, but everyone is different. I need 5-6 hours for my brain to get what it needs.

:) It all eventually catches up. That principle applies to everyone. It may take some years, but it will eventually catch up. And sleep isn't just about your brain...that's hardly what it's about.


I will still argue that it varies among people. Everyone is different. Some people go their whole lives with 5-6 hours of sleep a night. Some people have to get the 8 hours. I've been getting 5-6 hours of sleep for years. I can technically live off of mush less (0-4 hours) but that catches up quickly.
flowerpower
The second one "you sleep less, you have less energy to live life.". SLEEP NOT MORE OR LESS. A person needs about 8hrs sleep per day. Once I slept only 2 hrs, and the next day, only 4 hrs. I was zombie during my third day! Sleep, and LIVE. Wink
yourtrips
If i sleep not much than i'm fun , better , ... the next day! But i have a little sleep problem i need like 1 - 2 houre sleep each day. ( Yea it's real tested in a hospital ). It's very booring if you try to sleep but you can't. Most time of night i'm on my computer...
liljp617
yourtrips wrote:
If i sleep not much than i'm fun , better , ... the next day! But i have a little sleep problem i need like 1 - 2 houre sleep each day. ( Yea it's real tested in a hospital ). It's very booring if you try to sleep but you can't. Most time of night i'm on my computer...

I am really serious when I say that is in absolutely no way healthy for your body. If you really don't see why, you should study the dozens upon dozens of things that your body does when sleeping. It really is vital. You may be able to function after 1-2 hours of sleep, but it will catch up to you at some point...regardless of who you are or how much you say you don't need sleep Razz
reallybigshoe
Work for yourself and throw off the burdens of this world. Sleep when you like, eat when you like, shit when you like. This is how man was created. As long as you can accomplish your goals outside the world of regulation, for what purpose does that regulation exist?
TBSC
Hogwarts wrote:
I have a theory Idea . If you sleep less, you have more time to get more out of life (I suggest spending all your extra time on FriHost). But if you sleep less, you have less energy to live life. What are your opinions?


If you sleep too much then that will give you less energy the next day, similar to sleeping too little. Most people probably need 6-8 hours of sleep, less or more could hamper productivity the next day. One way to tell is to go to bed and see what time you naturally wake up without an alarm (the first time).
liljp617
Afaceinthematrix wrote:
liljp617 wrote:
Afaceinthematrix wrote:
whitehole wrote:
7-8 hours a night or your brain isn't getting what it needs(as well as the rest of your body). Cut out time sinks like TV if you want to get more out of life. Spending time with friends and family, accomplishing your dreams, and doing things that better yourself or others are things you'll get the most out of.


That may be fine for you, but everyone is different. I need 5-6 hours for my brain to get what it needs.

Smile It all eventually catches up. That principle applies to everyone. It may take some years, but it will eventually catch up. And sleep isn't just about your brain...that's hardly what it's about.


I will still argue that it varies among people. Everyone is different. Some people go their whole lives with 5-6 hours of sleep a night. Some people have to get the 8 hours. I've been getting 5-6 hours of sleep for years. I can technically live off of mush less (0-4 hours) but that catches up quickly.

The ability to "live" on little sleep doesn't really seem like a debate. You can live on pretty much any amount of sleep above an hour. It's really a matter of health and function. It's just kind of common sense that if your body (not just your mind) doesn't get the time it needs to replenish and repair, it will catch up to you in one way or another at some point. It may take a week, a month, or even a year, but it will have an effect on you...most likely your health.
corridor_writers
I would be interested to read or hear about a study that shows the long affects of energy drinks on a person. I know a number of people who now sleep less at night, and are able to stay awake without a problem simply due to the large amounts of energy drinks they are consuming during the day. I must assume that there are going to be some long term issues with doing this. In the meantime, they are definitely sleeping less, and seem to be using energy drinks to get more out of life. I just hope for their sakes it does not all catch up to them too soon.
liljp617
corridor_writers wrote:
I would be interested to read or hear about a study that shows the long affects of energy drinks on a person. I know a number of people who now sleep less at night, and are able to stay awake without a problem simply due to the large amounts of energy drinks they are consuming during the day. I must assume that there are going to be some long term issues with doing this. In the meantime, they are definitely sleeping less, and seem to be using energy drinks to get more out of life. I just hope for their sakes it does not all catch up to them too soon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_deprivation

Just kind of a lot of general information. Don't think it deals specifically with energy drinks, but it definitely shows how much a lack of sleep can really hurt you whether you see it or not. If someone is drinking energy drinks consistently in order to stay awake longer, it will catch up to them fast and can even take months or years off their life (a large amount of sleep deprivation does this in any case, not just with energy drinks).
Flarkis
Sleep more. Everyone needs sleep and if u don't sleep enough you'll die sooner.
corridor_writers
liljp617 wrote:
corridor_writers wrote:
I would be interested to read or hear about a study that shows the long affects of energy drinks on a person. I know a number of people who now sleep less at night, and are able to stay awake without a problem simply due to the large amounts of energy drinks they are consuming during the day. I must assume that there are going to be some long term issues with doing this. In the meantime, they are definitely sleeping less, and seem to be using energy drinks to get more out of life. I just hope for their sakes it does not all catch up to them too soon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_deprivation

Just kind of a lot of general information. Don't think it deals specifically with energy drinks, but it definitely shows how much a lack of sleep can really hurt you whether you see it or not. If someone is drinking energy drinks consistently in order to stay awake longer, it will catch up to them fast and can even take months or years off their life (a large amount of sleep deprivation does this in any case, not just with energy drinks).



Fantastic - thank you! I also agree that lack of sleep (to the point of sleep deprivation) does more harm than good. That, and I love sleep. Smile
ocean
I have heard a four hour sleep at night and an hour of nap in afternoon is all you need to refresh.

Some says that people who are having problem of sugar should not sleep at stretch of more than 2 hours.

I have tried all the methods of less sleeping but found that I can't live without sleeping 8 hours. I have noticed that when I sleep less I'm not able to concentrate well, I become more angry and stressed out which makes me depressed.
Melacos
Well first of all, partly I guess it is all dependent on mental states, as one of the dominant factors might be how you set your mind; attitude can alter the underlying physiology.
Some mention the scientific evidence saying that less sleep wont affect your energy in the long run, and that you just have to get used to it. Well, it's not all about energy or similar stuff - as stated above your mind has to be in it as well; let's say i.e. that you stay up late to 'get more out of the day'. You might feel fresh and energetic in some way, but other factors are involved as well - as for some people the darkness of the night alters the mental state, and the typical absense of sociality in the late hours might be another factor, making the won time less 'giving'...

So, it's important to define which kind of result you're after, staying awake. Purely energy-wise, it might be possible for the major part of people to adapt to new sleep-patterns, but other factors have to be taken into consideration as well...
leflauntique
i sleeping erratically bad? like i sleep about 4-12 hours. there was once where i was sleeping 10 hours a day and i felt groggy all day. but after that i slept for 4 hours and i was immediately refreshed for the next day.
liljp617
leflauntique wrote:
i sleeping erratically bad? like i sleep about 4-12 hours. there was once where i was sleeping 10 hours a day and i felt groggy all day. but after that i slept for 4 hours and i was immediately refreshed for the next day.

Exercise and diet have a lot more to do with feeling groggy than the situation of sleep you mentioned.
jasonpunks
if we sleep 8 hours a day, we will be using 2,920hrs a year to rest and 5,840hrs a year awake. in other words, if we are only to live up to 60y/o in our lifetime, 20yrs of it will be used for sleeping and only 40yrs to make the best out of our life. This may be a very disturbing figure for some people but we need to consider the fact that our body needs the recommended time allowance for our body to rest, repair, and rejuvinate ourselves which is about 7-8 hours a day. in short, less sleep is equal to a weaker body. your organs will deteriorate much faster than the normal. your organs will soon malfunction and won't be able to do it's purpose which leads to complications and death. but over-sleeping doesn't means that you will be healthier. in fact, those people who over-sleeps are candidates for many diseases which are too many to mention. so do not under or over sleep and keep our body healthy so we can enjoy more years out of life. Smile this is my opinion that I would like to share. Very Happy

more studies here at: http://stason.org/articles/wellbeing/sleep/how_many_hours_do_you_need_to_sleep.html

or you may search for more informations on the internet which you might find fun and interesting to read and may it serve as a guide for you to take good care of your body.
thanks for reading and enoy! Wink
deadswan
I sleep less, but I just play alot of games, so I don't need alot of energy for that lol

I guess if I played less games and got out more I'd need more sleep Think
biljap
If you sleep less you definitely have more time for other more interesting things in life. But sleeping during the night is very important for our body and the time someone needs to get energy back depends of the persons… Somebody needs only three or four hours and others need eight or even more hours.
I think that we should sleep just as much as we need; lack of sleep is as bad as lying in bad for hours… Sometimes you need it and it makes you feel good but if it becomes a habit it is a big waste of time and makes you lazy.
Mahogany
If I were to choose between sleeping more and sleeping less. I would go for 'sleeping less', in my own opinion. Because sleeping less, when you wake up you won't feel heavy. Notice when you sleep more than 8 hours, sometimes it would cause you head aches. Actually, anything too much is not good. Even when it comes to love (a great example). One can be obsess with another ,which will turn that human into a bloody stalker (not great). THe same with sleeping. Too much sleep is bad, while too much of being awake is also bad. Both have each disadvantages and advantages. But I still prefer sleeping less it makes me energetic. Technically I'm an early morning person. A person has to sleep 6 hours, any number below 6 hours is bad for the health. Not unless you're use to it. :D [/b]
ateawonton
can change you into a vampire
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