There are many a times when your faith is challenged! It could be at work, your studies, daily life, with your spouse, the scope is unlimited. When all logical doors close we look for something extraordinary. Is that our Faith? What is Faith?
How do you define Faith?
To have faith, is to believe something with out doubt no matter what the evidence says.
This is why I have never meet a Christan that has any faith, cause they always try to prove there religion to be true by pointing to what they cal "evidence". but if they had faith they would say "I know what the evidence says and it is logical reasonable and much more plausible but I have faith in God and the bible." No Christan (or any one else of any religion) has said that.
This is why I have never meet a Christan that has any faith, cause they always try to prove there religion to be true by pointing to what they cal "evidence". but if they had faith they would say "I know what the evidence says and it is logical reasonable and much more plausible but I have faith in God and the bible." No Christan (or any one else of any religion) has said that.
I think TheConspirator has summed it up nicely.
Faith is what you believe in, even if you don’t believe in anything
| The Conspirator wrote: |
| To have faith, is to believe something with out doubt no matter what the evidence says.
This is why I have never meet a Christan that has any faith, cause they always try to prove there religion to be true by pointing to what they cal "evidence". but if they had faith they would say "I know what the evidence says and it is logical reasonable and much more plausible but I have faith in God and the bible." No Christan (or any one else of any religion) has said that. |
Be aware of what you are saying..Have you seen the posts of Whong
? The statement that you wrote is not the evidence of true faith, but of the fanatism.
I guess to have faith means to believe in something that there is no proof for. And to personally experience what you have faith in. And to let this experience change your life for better. Even sometimes through a miracle.
Quite close to your definition, but different.
Acording to the free online dictionary
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1. Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing. 2. Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence. See Synonyms at belief, trust. 3. Loyalty to a person or thing; allegiance: keeping faith with one's supporters. 4. often Faith Christianity The theological virtue defined as secure belief in God and a trusting acceptance of God's will. 5. The body of dogma of a religion: the Muslim faith. 6. A set of principles or beliefs. |
I would define faith as something that you can't see, but still you believe that it exists!
Now to believe in God you must have faith, because it is very rare that you can have an encouter with Him or an angel!
Sathu Sundar Sign had an encouter with Jesus Christ just moments before he was going to comit suicide and that changed his life completely!
Now Sundar Sign is in heaven with God! 
Now to believe in God you must have faith, because it is very rare that you can have an encouter with Him or an angel!
Sathu Sundar Sign had an encouter with Jesus Christ just moments before he was going to comit suicide and that changed his life completely!
Now Sundar Sign is in heaven with God!
I would say fate is something you create by believing in something, even if some try to prove your fate is wrong the fact that you believe is hard or impossible to prove wrong.
Opinion Differs...
"if you think you can or cannot, it is true" - this is what power of faith is...
if you believe you can do it...
"if you think you can or cannot, it is true" - this is what power of faith is...
if you believe you can do it...
I believe that fate is fixed. Sometimes you try so hard and logically there is every possibility of succeding and yet you fail. Like wise, sometimes when you least expect miracles happen.
Our life is already defined. that is what i feel.
Our life is already defined. that is what i feel.
Personally, my definition of faith is the belief in something with or without proof. The truly faithful don't need to prove their faith to others, as they are comfortable in their knowledge of their on beliefs.
Faith. You trust in the things that can't be seen..
This is my definition of faith:
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All of us have faith, and practice faith every day. Its what you use when your logic runs out.
I find this an accurate definition that suits me: believing is not always seeing. I have faith in God, and I am so confident in my faith in God that nothing can change it. I am so confident in my faith in God that I don't need to "prove" to others who doubt the existence of God, my only counter to their arguments are: "He's there, I know, but will you?"
I think faith is thinking or believing that you can do something that is impossible according to the human race and plants and animals and of course aliens.But not God.
I have often wondered if faith must be found at the individual level. There are some traditions that lift faith up as a spiritual gift given to some and not to others. Contrary to the tradition that would state that this implies that some are to go to heavan and others not, faith as a spiritual gift is to the community and is effective at a communal level.
I also think that faith can not be in discussion without bringing up the concept of doubt. The greater the doubt, the greater the faith.
I also think that faith can not be in discussion without bringing up the concept of doubt. The greater the doubt, the greater the faith.
Faith is reason submitting to a higher authority. We've all submitted to a higher authority, e.g. at school where we had to memorize the multiplication table at one point. I haven't been to Tokyo, nor have I seen it except through pictures. But I know there is such a place as Tokyo and it is somewhere in Japan. In the context of religious faith, "faith" is reason's submission to God who reveals himself to us.
I hope that helps.
I hope that helps.
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| I have often wondered if faith must be found at the individual level. |
Mahatma Gandhi once said "Faith is not something to grasp, it is a state to grow into."
So yes. One must fall into it them selves.
you have faith in what you believe and what you believe in is "certainty about what cannot be seen"
Really liked what you said! Makes a lot of sense to me. I say so as I have often people without any faith question me about my faith. It's very difficult to influence them or even pull them onto my side.
Thanks
Thanks
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Mahatma Gandhi once said "Faith is not something to grasp, it is a state to grow into." So yes. One must fall into it them selves. |
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a quote from some author don't know who but hey
"if a sound were to go off, in a place where there was noone to hear it...is there still a sound"
find your own meaning in relation to faith with that
a quote from some author don't know who but hey
"if a sound were to go off, in a place where there was noone to hear it...is there still a sound"
find your own meaning in relation to faith with that
Supreme Court Justice (and Civil War veteran) Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. made a great speech extolling the faith of soldiers in war, which I think captures part of the essence of what faith really means (emphasis added):
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| Behind every scheme to make the world over, lies the question, What kind of world do you want? The ideals of the past for men have been drawn from war, as those for women have been drawn from motherhood. For all our prophecies, I doubt if we are ready to give up our inheritance. Who is there who would not like to be thought a gentleman? Yet what has that name been built on but the soldier’s choice of honor rather than life? To be a soldier or descended from soldiers, in time of peace to be ready to give one’s life rather than to suffer disgrace, that is what the word has meant; and if we try to claim it at less cost than a splendid carelessness for life, we are trying to steal the good will without the responsibilities of the place. We will not dispute about tastes. The man of the future may want something different. But who of us could endure a world, although cut up into five-acre lots and having no man upon it who was not well fed and well housed, without the divine folly of honor, without the senseless passion for knowledge outreaching the flaming bounds of the possible, without ideals the essence of which is that they never can be achieved? I do not know what is true. I do not know the meaning of the universe. But in the midst of doubt, in the collapse of creeds, there is one thing I do not doubt, that no man who lives in the same world with most of us can doubt, and that is that the faith is true and adorable which leads a soldier to throw away his life in obedience to a blindly accepted duty, in a cause which he little understands, in a plan of campaign of which he has no notion, under tactics of which he does not see the use. |
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