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Bockman
Hi there Very Happy

Before everything else, thank you guys for having these option for everyone else.

at the moment, only one Question remains in my head.. and no harm done if it can't be answered.

As you may know, i found this forum through late FNH (i think the phoenix finaly cauth the last breath), and it kept going up and down, and the backing up process isn't a pleasent one (and not always goes the best way).
I was wondering if there is any assurance of a minimum time the servers will be up, and, in case it goes down, how much time we have to backup data.

Be Well Cool
Bondings
Bockman wrote:
Hi there Very Happy

Before everything else, thank you guys for having these option for everyone else.

at the moment, only one Question remains in my head.. and no harm done if it can't be answered.

As you may know, i found this forum through late FNH (i think the phoenix finaly cauth the last breath), and it kept going up and down, and the backing up process isn't a pleasent one (and not always goes the best way).
I was wondering if there is any assurance of a minimum time the servers will be up, and, in case it goes down, how much time we have to backup data.

Be Well Cool


We're just starting this free web hosting. I really cannot give you much details about the minimum time the servers will be up. The minimum minimum time at the moment is 1 month from today. But everything will be done to keep this hosting available for many, many years as Frihost stands for Free Reliable Internet Host.
However if anything should happen, you'll be notified that the servers will go down.
It all depends on the popularity of Frihost. The more people we have, the better. So you can help us by recommanding our free service to your family, friends and everyone else.

By the way, what's the problem with backing up your website? There is an option in cpanel that does it for you. Normally it should take only a few minutes, I thought?
Bockman
Bondings wrote:

By the way, what's the problem with backing up your website? There is an option in cpanel that does it for you. Normally it should take only a few minutes, I thought?


Actually i never went for cPanel for backups Embarassed
I am used to doing it manually and sometimes data is corrupted. is cPanel secure when it comes to backing up? I know nothing is 100% reliable, but most backup scripts i know end up with corrupted data. I will try cPanel to move my site here (once you give me the OK sign Laughing )

As for the hosting, and the supporting it, i think a good idea would be to build an add for Frihost, so we could allocate it on our pages (i was thinking of a php-nuke Box, since that's what i've been using, but a logo with something like "Powered By" will do fine, and we could add it to our FRIHosted sites)

Be Well Cool

P.S. - One suggestion i would make is to give people time (7 days or so) to backup thei'r sites and rellocate them in case anything goes sour (of course i'm talking of planned changes. unplanned changes are just that.. and affect everyone unnanounced)
Bondings
Bockman wrote:

Actually i never went for cPanel for backups Embarassed
I am used to doing it manually and sometimes data is corrupted. is cPanel secure when it comes to backing up? I know nothing is 100% reliable, but most backup scripts i know end up with corrupted data. I will try cPanel to move my site here (once you give me the OK sign Laughing )

I never tried the backup thing myself because my other webhost (paid) disabled the backup and I had to request it every time. So I don't know if it is very reliable, but I think it is the internet transfer that makes is corrupted. And a cpanel backup stores the file on the server and then sends 1 file if I'm not mistaken. If your website isn't big, then you might make 2 backups. The chance that both of them are corrupt is very small.
By the way, the most important thing are the mysql databases. The files should still be on your computer if you uploaded them, I suppose. PhpBB files will still be in fantastico, even if you don't backup them.

Bockman wrote:

As for the hosting, and the supporting it, i think a good idea would be to build an add for Frihost, so we could allocate it on our pages (i was thinking of a php-nuke Box, since that's what i've been using, but a logo with something like "Powered By" will do fine, and we could add it to our FRIHosted sites)

I certainly appreciate it when you link back to us, and I'll make some better banners or I'll organize a contest to make some. A simple text link is also good to support us. But I want to stress the fact that you don't have to do this. You don't have to show your users that your website is hosted on a free service if you don't want to. That's the spirit of Frihost.

Bockman wrote:

P.S. - One suggestion i would make is to give people time (7 days or so) to backup thei'r sites and rellocate them in case anything goes sour (of course i'm talking of planned changes. unplanned changes are just that.. and affect everyone unnanounced)

The only reason I can think of that you should make a backup of your data is to protect you from a hard disk crash/virus/hacking attempt. So it will only be for unplanned changes. Planned changes won't require you to backup your data! (I can't be sure of this of course, but it is very probable)
Unlike FNH, if your account should change to another server, then we'll do everything possible to move your account ourselves. Normally you won't have to do anything. There will be more work by creating all your accounts again then by simply transferring the accounts.
But probably we won't change the servers, so don't worry. Very Happy
Bockman
I have made a cPanel Backup and i will try to install it back to FRIHost when i have it. When i get the updated info, i will reply here regarding it's functionality. is really was easy to make the backup, but i will have to check on the restore before i believe it (if it works well, it is one hell of a help for webmasters. Saved me a few hours and headaches till now Razz )

Be Well Cool
mOrpheuS
I've always used cPanel for my site backups.
and I must say it's pretty good at it.
agreed, the backup might get corrupted while downloading it.
but there are others methods of storage of a cPanel backup.

you can have it copied to another ftp server, or have it created within your home directory etc etc (there are a few more options I can't remember)

I prefer creating the backups in the home directory & then downloading it at leisure. (there must be sufficient free space, though)
the backups file is still there, so you can download it again in case all the downloading corrupted it.
even a MD5 checksum is generated for you to ensure that the backup you downloaded is not corrupt.
once you are done downloading, just delete the backup.

A full backup will contain everything on your site, including your files, mails, mysql databases etc.
that's enough to replicate the site as it is anywhere else.
alternatively, you may choose to backup just the mysql databases, or the files in public_html

to sum it up, that's a very good backup script they have in cPanel.
I have never had any trouble with it.
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