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The Anti-Christ

 


Talk2Tom11
I am not a very religious person but i do find some stories within religion to be interesting. I found it interesting the other day when i watched a program in the Anti-christ. Supposedly this is how it will come.

the anti-christ will be:
in human form
of jewish faith

He will take over the world by convincing everyone that he is good and then try to kill everyone. According to the bible this is when jesus will return and save everyone... including the jews... who will then finally except him as the Masai.

Anyone have any feeling about the anti-christ either for or against what the bible says.
Whong
Talk2Tom11 wrote:
I am not a very religious person but i do find some stories within religion to be interesting. I found it interesting the other day when i watched a program in the Anti-christ. Supposedly this is how it will come.

the anti-christ will be:
in human form
of jewish faith

He will take over the world by convincing everyone that he is good and then try to kill everyone. According to the bible this is when jesus will return and save everyone... including the jews... who will then finally except him as the Masai.

Anyone have any feeling about the anti-christ either for or against what the bible says.


As I see it you're right that he will be in human for and of jewish faith, I think!
He and the beast will force everyone to take the mark of the beast into their right fore hand or on their forehead! All who don't take it will not be able to buy or sell anything! Note this is my and many other peoples opinion! The mark of the beast is the microchip Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation

I just want to tell you to be very cautious about this thing, because if it is, the people who have already taken it are going to Hell, no matter what they do! That's eternal damnation to take the mark! Rather to suffer here on the earth for sometime than to suffer for ever in Hell! Idea
mike1reynolds
Where did you get Jewish from? Nostradamus predicted that the 3rd antichrist would be an Arab. I'm not aware of any other predictions on the matter.
the_mariska
Whong wrote:

As I see it you're right that he will be in human for and of jewish faith, I think!
He and the beast will force everyone to take the mark of the beast into their right fore hand or on their forehead! All who don't take it will not be able to buy or sell anything! Note this is my and many other peoples opinion! The mark of the beast is the microchip Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation

I just want to tell you to be very cautious about this thing, because if it is, the people who have already taken it are going to Hell, no matter what they do! That's eternal damnation to take the mark! Rather to suffer here on the earth for sometime than to suffer for ever in Hell! Idea

First of all: As you said it is just your opinion, so chill out, and stop using exclamation marks at the end of each sentence. That's really annoying.

Second: You mix parts of the Bible with things taken out of nowhere. We can only suppose what the end of the world will be like, Apocalypse doesn't solve much as it's full of symbols.

Some theologians consider that the Beast and The False Prophet (described in Apocalypse 11 and 13) are the symbols of an evil ideology (like fascism, but on a global scale) and a totalitar system that makes it work. However, this are only examples how to interpret this symbols, this may describe as well an evil person or anything else. The point is to show that there will be some time of Evil ruling the Earth.

And about the microchip. It's true that it may change our life a lot. It's true that if it will be used on mass scale it could be used to threaten people. But the microchip is not evil itself, there could be only evil ways of using it. Your going to heaven or hell does not depend on having a microchip or not, but on your life. Don't mix the facts.
Hobbit
Does the anti christ know he's the anti christ? I'm an anti-christ.
livilou
I don't think the mark will be something physical (something worn on or under the skin). I believe it will be something emotional, mental. The way a person believes will be the mark. I do believe that force will be used though.
nam_siddharth
mike1reynolds wrote:
Where did you get Jewish from? Nostradamus predicted that the 3rd antichrist would be an Arab. I'm not aware of any other predictions on the matter.

Do you mean, Muhammada is that anti-christ!!
death_dealer
Quote:
mike1reynolds wrote:
Where did you get Jewish from? Nostradamus predicted that the 3rd antichrist would be an Arab. I'm not aware of any other predictions on the matter.

Do you mean, Muhammada is that anti-christ!!


what the hell the anti christ will say he is god mohommed never mentioned he is god nether did he mention to being anything else beside a prophet from Allah
saveexclusive
In regards to the anti-christ, Nastrodamous makes some very interesting predictions about the anti-christ. What doesn anyone think about his predictions?
Apolytes
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He will take over the world by convincing everyone that he is good


I would say the likely hood of 1 person taking over the entire world, especially one that is exclusively jewish is highly unrealistic. Read your history book again, many have tried.
Indi
livilou wrote:
I don't think the mark will be something physical (something worn on or under the skin). I believe it will be something emotional, mental. The way a person believes will be the mark. I do believe that force will be used though.

That's actually a really neat idea that I hadn't heard before, but it doesn't jive with what's in Revelations.

Revelations 13:16-18 (KJV) wrote:
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.


In plain English: "And he makes it so that everyone - big and small, rich and poor, free man and slave - receives a mark on their right hand, or on their foreheads. And no one can buy or sell unless they have that mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here's a hint for anyone that understands to count the number of the beast, because it's the number of a man, and his number is 666."

So the microchip theory is close to a perfect fit. Of course, the text of the bible is fairly specific that it is a mark (that is, a symbol of some kind), or the name of the "beast", or the number 666 - which kind of rules out a subcutaneous device of any kind. So it can't be a microchip.
a_dubDesign
Indi wrote:
So the microchip theory is close to a perfect fit. Of course, the text of the bible is fairly specific that it is a mark (that is, a symbol of some kind), or the name of the "beast", or the number 666 - which kind of rules out a subcutaneous device of any kind. So it can't be a microchip.

I suppose I should have posted the thread Historical Understanding of Revelations as a post on here. Its a video of an incredibly smart man who has done tons of studing on the letter of revelations and actually takes into account the fact that its a letter written from a pastor in exile to his beloved congregation. Check it out, its amazing
Indi
a_dubDesign wrote:
Indi wrote:
So the microchip theory is close to a perfect fit. Of course, the text of the bible is fairly specific that it is a mark (that is, a symbol of some kind), or the name of the "beast", or the number 666 - which kind of rules out a subcutaneous device of any kind. So it can't be a microchip.

I suppose I should have posted the thread Historical Understanding of Revelations as a post on here. Its a video of an incredibly smart man who has done tons of studing on the letter of revelations and actually takes into account the fact that its a letter written from a pastor in exile to his beloved congregation. Check it out, its amazing

Yup, I actually noticed the link somewhere, and I have it set up to watch - later. Rob Bell, right? If he actually finds a way to work a microchip out of that wording, I'd be curious to see it. So I may be back later! ^_^
i_am_mine
Breaking News !

The Anti-Christ will come on Friday and has asked everyone to bring their own beer. He's getting the Chips and Cola so please pitch in.

By the way the Anti-Christ is the Marshmellow-Man with a Intel MicroChip.However, the real source of his Evil Powers come from the fact that he runs on Windows XP (TM).
lib
i_am_mine wrote:
Breaking News !

The Anti-Christ will come on Friday and has asked everyone to bring their own beer. He's getting the Chips and Cola so please pitch in.

By the way the Anti-Christ is the Marshmellow-Man with a Intel MicroChip.However, the real source of his Evil Powers come from the fact that he runs on Windows XP (TM).

Well said!
Personally, I don't believe in this Day of Judgment and the anti-Christ and stuff. It seems rather indefinite. The anti-Christ will come someday and no one really knows for sure when. It's a nice promise that needn't be kept, because people will anyway be in the hope of the Day Of Judgment to arrive sometime in the future. More about this later... I must sleep now.
a_dubDesign
i_am_mine wrote:
By the way the Anti-Christ is the Marshmellow-Man with a Intel MicroChip.However, the real source of his Evil Powers come from the fact that he runs on Windows XP (TM).

ok, now I'm getting evil looks from everyone for busting out laughing in the library.
CompactHaven
Whong wrote:
Talk2Tom11 wrote:
I am not a very religious person but i do find some stories within religion to be interesting. I found it interesting the other day when i watched a program in the Anti-christ. Supposedly this is how it will come.

the anti-christ will be:
in human form
of jewish faith

He will take over the world by convincing everyone that he is good and then try to kill everyone. According to the bible this is when jesus will return and save everyone... including the jews... who will then finally except him as the Masai.

Anyone have any feeling about the anti-christ either for or against what the bible says.


As I see it you're right that he will be in human for and of jewish faith, I think!
He and the beast will force everyone to take the mark of the beast into their right fore hand or on their forehead! All who don't take it will not be able to buy or sell anything! Note this is my and many other peoples opinion! The mark of the beast is the microchip Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation

I just want to tell you to be very cautious about this thing, because if it is, the people who have already taken it are going to Hell, no matter what they do! That's eternal damnation to take the mark! Rather to suffer here on the earth for sometime than to suffer for ever in Hell! Idea


I heard scientists recently announced that those are the most likely spots for microchips to be implanted. Who knows, no source. Go look it up if you want one.
Arnor
As far as I am concerned, we already have an anti-christ.

It's called power, it's called corruption, it's called governments, and there are several, the worst of them being capitalism.

Not that I connect it to something religious in that sence, it's a matter of the mind, but the mind and religion are so greatly connected..
Whong
the_mariska wrote:
Whong wrote:

As I see it you're right that he will be in human for and of jewish faith, I think!
He and the beast will force everyone to take the mark of the beast into their right fore hand or on their forehead! All who don't take it will not be able to buy or sell anything! Note this is my and many other peoples opinion! The mark of the beast is the microchip Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation

I just want to tell you to be very cautious about this thing, because if it is, the people who have already taken it are going to Hell, no matter what they do! That's eternal damnation to take the mark! Rather to suffer here on the earth for sometime than to suffer for ever in Hell! Idea

First of all: As you said it is just your opinion, so chill out, and stop using exclamation marks at the end of each sentence. That's really annoying.

Second: You mix parts of the Bible with things taken out of nowhere. We can only suppose what the end of the world will be like, Apocalypse doesn't solve much as it's full of symbols.

Some theologians consider that the Beast and The False Prophet (described in Apocalypse 11 and 13) are the symbols of an evil ideology (like fascism, but on a global scale) and a totalitar system that makes it work. However, this are only examples how to interpret this symbols, this may describe as well an evil person or anything else. The point is to show that there will be some time of Evil ruling the Earth.

And about the microchip. It's true that it may change our life a lot. It's true that if it will be used on mass scale it could be used to threaten people. But the microchip is not evil itself, there could be only evil ways of using it. Your going to heaven or hell does not depend on having a microchip or not, but on your life. Don't mix the facts.


The guy who invented the microchip, Carl Sanders is himself going and worning people about it! He understood what he had made after becoming a believer. Just google the word microchip and there will come lots of stuff stating or atleast speculating that it is the mark of the beast! Idea

The name of the computer where all of the information of all people is stored is code named "BEAST".

People who have the microchip can be controlled by others in the near future! Idea
Indi
Whong wrote:
The guy who invented the microchip, Carl Sanders is himself going and worning people about it! He understood what he had made after becoming a believer.

Who the hell is Carl Sanders? Jack Kirby at Texas Instruments invented the microchip. He got a Nobel prize for it.

Whong wrote:
Just google the word microchip and there will come lots of stuff stating or atleast speculating that it is the mark of the beast! Idea

I did. I got 11,900,000 results, and the first bunch were all semiconductor manufacturers, pages about what a microchip is and/or how it was invented, sites talking about chipping animals, and a handful of articles about legislation on chipping animals and/or humans. The first mention of anything even approaching what you describe was over 60 results from the top, just two results up from "Musical Doorbell - The world's only programmable musical door chime".

Not quite as topical as you make it sound, it would appear.

Whong wrote:
The name of the computer where all of the information of all people is stored is code named "BEAST".

Oh? I call my big computer the beast, too. My big car, also. Is my Honda the chariot of the antichrist?

Anyway, show your sources, please. And when I say show your sources, I prefer if you didn't just post a picture of some pills, thank you.

Whong wrote:
People who have the microchip can be controlled by others in the near future! Idea

People are already controlled by others without the need for technology. Hell, all Winter needs to control me is a short skirt and a smile.

Oh, and source, please.
Whong
Indi wrote:
Whong wrote:
The guy who invented the microchip, Carl Sanders is himself going and worning people about it! He understood what he had made after becoming a believer.

Who the hell is Carl Sanders? Jack Kirby at Texas Instruments invented the microchip. He got a Nobel prize for it.

Whong wrote:
Just google the word microchip and there will come lots of stuff stating or atleast speculating that it is the mark of the beast! Idea

I did. I got 11,900,000 results, and the first bunch were all semiconductor manufacturers, pages about what a microchip is and/or how it was invented, sites talking about chipping animals, and a handful of articles about legislation on chipping animals and/or humans. The first mention of anything even approaching what you describe was over 60 results from the top, just two results up from "Musical Doorbell - The world's only programmable musical door chime".

Not quite as topical as you make it sound, it would appear.

Whong wrote:
The name of the computer where all of the information of all people is stored is code named "BEAST".

Oh? I call my big computer the beast, too. My big car, also. Is my Honda the chariot of the antichrist?

Anyway, show your sources, please. And when I say show your sources, I prefer if you didn't just post a picture of some pills, thank you.

Whong wrote:
People who have the microchip can be controlled by others in the near future! Idea

People are already controlled by others without the need for technology. Hell, all Winter needs to control me is a short skirt and a smile.

Oh, and source, please.


Sorry, I gave you a wrong thing to google! Google microchip implants!
http://www.greaterthings.com/News/Chip_Implants/index.html

Here's one source!
Indi
Whong wrote:
Sorry, I gave you a wrong thing to google! Google microchip implants!
http://www.greaterthings.com/News/Chip_Implants/index.html

Here's one source!

Well, thanks to that site I found out who Carl Sanders is: http://www.greaterthings.com/News/Chip_Implants/sanders011023.htm

Nice. ^_^
a_dubDesign
Indi wrote:
Well, thanks to that site I found out who Carl Sanders is: http://www.greaterthings.com/News/Chip_Implants/sanders011023.htm

Nice. ^_^

I can't help but laugh at that one.
DopeyCriz
Im Anti-Religion Mad Shocked

Due to:

-Im not Religion

-Regilion people rejected me

-Got banned from the church for beating up a guy who tried to theif a purse! Mad Mad Mad Mad

-Muslim gang has ganged up on me and kicked the s**t out of me.

-Thier belief is equal as fictional books.

I hope this post doesn't offense anyone, Religion or not.
(I just openminded Sad Never let things keep in, let it out)
death_dealer
Quote:
Im Anti-Religion

Due to:

-Im not Religion

-Regilion people rejected me

-Got banned from the church for beating up a guy who tried to theif a purse!

-Muslim gang has ganged up on me and kicked the s**t out of me.

-Thier belief is equal as fictional books.

I hope this post doesn't offense anyone, Religion or not.
(I just openminded Never let things keep in, let it out)


so sorry to hear that i realy feel bad right now but you goyya rememmber that that is a minority

also

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Anyway, show your sources, please. And when I say show your sources, I prefer if you didn't just post a picture of some pills, thank you.


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Whong
DopeyCriz wrote:
Im Anti-Religion Mad Shocked

Due to:

-Im not Religion

-Regilion people rejected me

-Got banned from the church for beating up a guy who tried to theif a purse! Mad Mad Mad Mad

-Muslim gang has ganged up on me and kicked the s**t out of me.

-Thier belief is equal as fictional books.

I hope this post doesn't offense anyone, Religion or not.
(I just openminded Sad Never let things keep in, let it out)


Well I hope you would turn to Christianity, Jesus died for you too, and if you believe that and in Him so you will be in heaven the day you die, but if not then the story is way sadder! Idea

God wants to give you the best He can, but you have to accept it inorder for Him to give it to you! Idea Wink
nam_siddharth
Whong wrote:
DopeyCriz wrote:
Im Anti-Religion Mad Shocked

Due to:

-Im not Religion

-Regilion people rejected me

-Got banned from the church for beating up a guy who tried to theif a purse! Mad Mad Mad Mad

-Muslim gang has ganged up on me and kicked the s**t out of me.

-Thier belief is equal as fictional books.

I hope this post doesn't offense anyone, Religion or not.
(I just openminded Sad Never let things keep in, let it out)


Well I hope you would turn to Christianity, Jesus died for you too, and if you believe that and in Him so you will be in heaven the day you die, but if not then the story is way sadder! Idea

God wants to give you the best He can, but you have to accept it inorder for Him to give it to you! Idea Wink


How you know, what God wants? Bible may be fraud like Carl Sanders. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Wink
death_dealer
Quote:
DopeyCriz wrote:
Im Anti-Religion

Due to:

-Im not Religion

-Regilion people rejected me

-Got banned from the church for beating up a guy who tried to theif a purse!

-Muslim gang has ganged up on me and kicked the s**t out of me.

-Thier belief is equal as fictional books.

I hope this post doesn't offense anyone, Religion or not.
(I just openminded Never let things keep in, let it out)


Well I hope you would turn to Christianity, Jesus died for you too, and if you believe that and in Him so you will be in heaven the day you die, but if not then the story is way sadder!

God wants to give you the best He can, but you have to accept it inorder for Him to give it to you!


I truly bag to differ

Man cristianity has had its fier share in lie's and wiredness

i.e. jesus doed for us all to save us from hell thats cool but when i cheaked it was the jews that wanted to punish him sayin he brings lies or some thin like that
death_dealer
Quote:
DopeyCriz wrote:
Im Anti-Religion

Due to:

-Im not Religion

-Regilion people rejected me

-Got banned from the church for beating up a guy who tried to theif a purse!

-Muslim gang has ganged up on me and kicked the s**t out of me.

-Thier belief is equal as fictional books.

I hope this post doesn't offense anyone, Religion or not.
(I just openminded Never let things keep in, let it out)


Well I hope you would turn to Christianity, Jesus died for you too, and if you believe that and in Him so you will be in heaven the day you die, but if not then the story is way sadder!

God wants to give you the best He can, but you have to accept it inorder for Him to give it to you!


I truly bag to differ

Man cristianity has had its fier share in lie's and wiredness

i.e. jesus doed for us all to save us from hell thats cool but when i cheaked it was the jews that wanted to punish him sayin he brings lies or some thin like that
Juparis
The anti-Christ? Correction: The anti-Christs.

The word anti-Christ literally means "to go against Christ." Thus, anyone that does not accept Christ as Savior must be one of many anti-Christs. Opinions vary on that topic...

There is, however, one anti-Christ that stands out from all others. I don't recall ever reading that he would necessarily be Jewish, but he is described in 2 Thesalonians..
2 Thessalonians 2:4-5 (New International Version) wrote:

4He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
Soulfire
mike1reynolds wrote:
Where did you get Jewish from? Nostradamus predicted that the 3rd antichrist would be an Arab. I'm not aware of any other predictions on the matter.

Nostradamus can't be believed. His "predictions" are just vague outlines of possible scenarios, and people are so fascinated at the idea of someone who could tell the future that they bend his words into a twisted knot of nothing and make futile attempts to try and fit his predictions to the world today. Intriguing yes, but true? I'm not so sure. At any rate, I won't lie - it's interesting to search him up on the internet.

What the Bible says on the antichrist:
1 John 2:18-19 "Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have arisen; from this we know that it is the last hour. They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, in order that it might be shown that they all are not of us."

1 John 2:22-23 "Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son. Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also."

1 John 4:2-3 "By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God; and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; and this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world."

2 John 1:7 "For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist."

I don't know if race/religion really matters, that's not the point of the antichrist.
lib
Well, what do you know?
Saint John thinks I'm an anti-Christ... and so are the millions of atheists and Muslims...
Isn't that nice?
And since Islam has been around for quite a loooong time (as Muslims reject Jesus as God or Son of God), that would mean that the antichrists have been around for a looong time, and the world has survived!.
Well, maybe we don't really have to fear the anti-chirst as much as we all thought after all.
a_dubDesign
Soulfire wrote:
Nostradamus can't be believed. His "predictions" are just vague outlines of possible scenarios, and people are so fascinated at the idea of someone who could tell the future that they bend his words into a twisted knot of nothing and make futile attempts to try and fit his predictions to the world today. Intriguing yes, but true? I'm not so sure. At any rate, I won't lie - it's interesting to search him up on the internet.

Ironic, how you describe Nostradamus's words are what most christians do with John's words in Revelations.
ashenwrest
Logic and reality will kill religion long before the fairy tales of the "bible" become reality.

Worry less about the writing in a piece of fiction and worry more about what you are going to do with your life.

bGFzIHJlc3B1ZXN0YXMgZXN04W4gdmluaWVuZG8=
the_mariska
ashenwrest wrote:
Logic and reality will kill religion long before the fairy tales of the "bible" become reality.

Worry less about the writing in a piece of fiction and worry more about what you are going to do with your life.

bGFzIHJlc3B1ZXN0YXMgZXN04W4gdmluaWVuZG8=

Hahaha, no way. Nuclear weapons and reality will make the whole mankind die out a long time before we manage to prove whether God exists or not. and here comes the apocalypse.. Very Happy
ashenwrest
the_mariska wrote:
ashenwrest wrote:
Logic and reality will kill religion long before the fairy tales of the "bible" become reality.

Worry less about the writing in a piece of fiction and worry more about what you are going to do with your life.

bGFzIHJlc3B1ZXN0YXMgZXN04W4gdmluaWVuZG8=

Hahaha, no way. Nuclear weapons and reality will make the whole mankind die out a long time before we manage to prove whether God exists or not. and here comes the apocalypse.. Very Happy


We don't have to prove god exists and nuclear weapons are reality. God exists in the minds of the weak looking for reasons to live. Worrying about the "predictions" of the bible would be the same thing as my believing that Ms. Cleo can see my future.

I also agree that mankind by their own hands in far less time than through natural means. Best part is, when you die, you will never know it.
death_dealer
Quote:
the_mariska wrote:
ashenwrest wrote:
Logic and reality will kill religion long before the fairy tales of the "bible" become reality.

Worry less about the writing in a piece of fiction and worry more about what you are going to do with your life.

bGFzIHJlc3B1ZXN0YXMgZXN04W4gdmluaWVuZG8=

Hahaha, no way. Nuclear weapons and reality will make the whole mankind die out a long time before we manage to prove whether God exists or not. and here comes the apocalypse..


We don't have to prove god exists and nuclear weapons are reality. God exists in the minds of the weak looking for reasons to live. Worrying about the "predictions" of the bible would be the same thing as my believing that Ms. Cleo can see my future.

I also agree that mankind by their own hands in far less time than through natural means. Best part is, when you die, you will never know it.


for the weak noworrys belive that all you want just look for the truth atlest instead of thinking oh yeh I got a good job and life oh god dont exist

there is far more then enough proof of gods existans
tidruG
death_dealer wrote:
for the weak noworrys belive that all you want just look for the truth atlest instead of thinking oh yeh I got a good job and life oh god dont exist

there is far more then enough proof of gods existans

Miracles cannot be taken to be evidence of God's existence. They are just a coincidence, a luck, a minority on a probability function which was the result of that probability function.

As for the creation of the universe, the Big Bang, etc etc... there is neither solid scientific evidence to prove that God created it nor enough to prove that it all just came together. It's a question of faith. Your faith makes you believe you can "prove" God's existence, but how can you?
death_dealer
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there is neither solid scientific evidence to prove that God created it nor enough to prove that it all just came together


kewl so now we need "solid" proof that god is there so that god can create such things as I said look at your self how are you created etc etc.......

you dont need much to see that the truth is the truth

Dont look at miricals search sience it's self IT will tell you there is a god one way or another
lib
death_dealer wrote:
Quote:
there is neither solid scientific evidence to prove that God created it nor enough to prove that it all just came together


kewl so now we need "solid" proof that god is there so that god can create such things as I said look at your self how are you created etc etc.......

you dont need much to see that the truth is the truth

Dont look at miricals search sience it's self IT will tell you there is a god one way or another

How was I created?
Well, to put it in simple words, my mummy and my daddy had sex one night (whout protection)... and my daddy's sperm fertilized my mummy's ova. This fertilized egg then slowly developed into a zygote... and weeks later, my mummy went into labour and I came out of her womb. All biological... I don't see the hand of God there (thankfully).
Now let's see this from the point of view you were probably trying to imply... how was the universe created? This is still being debated. Neither is there solid proof for the Big Bang, evolution, etc not is there solid proof for what the Bible or any other religious book says. Unless I have proof in some form that can result in an undebatable result... a verifiable, unquestionable conclusion. Your belief is a result of faith, not of evidence.

Also, you're being very vague... you say "look around and you'll know God exists". Well, I say to that - "Look around, you'll know that sharks actually don't want to eat fish, but they're being cruelly subjected and forced to do this because the evil invisible underground turtles bite their tails if they refuse to comply... hey, don't laugh at me... I look around, and this is my belief as a result of faith. Wink

Science is based on conclusive evidence and fact. And there is neither conclusive evidence for the proof of God nor is there conclusive evidence for the proof of lack of God. For every scientific theory you quote proving a God, I can quote another that proves that God does not exist. All these, however, are just "theories", and have yet to be verified by experimental, verifiable result.

Good Day.
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How was I created?
Well, to put it in simple words, my mummy and my daddy had sex one night (whout protection)... and my daddy's sperm fertilized my mummy's ova. This fertilized egg then slowly developed into a zygote... and weeks later, my mummy went into labour and I came out of her womb. All biological... I don't see the hand of God there (thankfully).


Nice 1 Wink Wink ok I know the pracider I'm studin it now at school.
2 Whats your point?? I mean ofcourse thats how you and I came about but what a perfect way ofcourse we have witnessed many people come out with deformatives BUT personly those like that are for the rest of us to appreciate what we have

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Look around, you'll know that sharks actually don't want to eat fish, but they're being cruelly subjected and forced to do this because the evil invisible underground turtles bite their tails if they refuse to comply... hey, don't laugh at me... I look around, and this is my belief as a result of faith.


the same way I do't wanna eat chicken right

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Science is based on conclusive evidence and fact. And there is neither conclusive evidence for the proof of God nor is there conclusive evidence for the proof of lack of God. For every scientific theory you quote proving a God, I can quote another that proves that God does not exist. All these, however, are just "theories", and have yet to be verified by experimental, verifiable result.



ok I aint gonna say anything look up the quran translation of surah RAHMAN from the quran keep in mind the quran was reveled over 1400 yrs age
GloomilyEuphoric
The idiots who are reading things black and white are those who've kept us from making any real progress as humans towards something better... Christians, I'm talking to you mostly as your not only bullheaded liars but kill when it suits your (your handlers i.e. popes', kings', and other power-hungry leaders') desires. Your misguided hate and lack of tolerance for "live and let live" is responsible for incomprehensible bloodshed. You kill those who oppose, its just not as rampant a now-a-days with laws and stuff. That doesn't include the loss of rich history/information and cultures because it went against your fabricated beliefs. "Just Burn it!" All you have to do it just look at your history books, this is fact.

You're sheep... admittedly. Laughing



BAaAAaaAH!


Anyways, I'm not Baha'i and I'm against "Religion" wholeheartedly for the reasons stated above (corruption and a means of control), but I do feel they've scored possibly one of the most attuned versions real truth out there, they just added a little extra and lost focus a little by turning it into a "religion". What the general principals say is how I've felt about things ever since I can remember. Every religion is part of a gradual realization of whats really out there, we all have bits and pieces of truth (even you, Christians) but anyone who says theirs is the ultimate truth is ultimately lying to you and themselves, so watch your wallet and more importantly your soul.

To the people who have no idea what we're talking about, don't worry. The "innocent of mind"/ignorant are always get a get out of hell free card Wink

EDIT: Wow, old topic. I was searching for info on Antichrist via Google, I came to this debate and registered in a hurry to join in but apparently 2 years too late.
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