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just wanna know
ok people i just wanna no what u think of muslims/islam today like straigt out if u think terrerist say it no one will get angered by this i will thought try explaining ur thougts a bit broder so plz be straight forward
A fine and peaceful faith that gets subverted by religious organisations as an excuse for horrific violence.
Just like Christianity used to be, and still is, to a lesser extent.
| death_dealer wrote: | just wanna know
ok people i just wanna no what u think of muslims/islam today like straigt out if u think terrerist say it no one will get angered by this i will thought try explaining ur thougts a bit broder so plz be straight forward |
I honestly become nervous to a degree if I see a blatant example of what I know to be an Islamic/Muslim man on the train, in crowded areas, or on a bus. I fthis feeling is strong enough, i'll leave quietly.
This feeling is a simple prejudice that I won't shed.
I would rather embrace this prejudice for this scenario and be deeply ashamed that I was wrong, then risk the smallest chance that I was right and lose my life.
Is every Islamic/Muslim man a terrorist in my eyes? No and Yes. A potential threat until proven otherwise. It's basic core function of every unknown animal interaction to be suspect, humans included. Everyone that walks around me everyday is means to my possible end. If news channels were to report Scientology Terrorists bomb subways wearing orange hats, I would be naturally wary of people in orange hats. Would I automatically pick up a rock an kill anone with a orange hat? No, but i'd avoid them.
I won't let silly public morality get in the way of my living existance, not ever. I would embrace any Muslim man like my brother once I knew it was chest I was pressing against, and not a thick layer of explosive vest. I may know one muslim man doesn't, and so i'll never suspect him, but every other Muslim...I won't embrace until I know every single individual.
I have no problem with the religion or the people that follow it in general. I understand that now all believe or act like the extremeist. The same can be said about some Christians. I refuse to judge the one man by the actions of another.
First i dont beleave all are extremest that lean toward terrioist acts, that would be like juding people by the name they use. Seems if you beat down on people long enough they will rebel. I just dont condone any kind of hate, just doesnt make sense. Everyone acts as if the states is an innocent by stander in all that has gone on with Moslms these days.I just like to know where does it stop? They bomb us we bomb them! Cant we all just live with mutual respect and move on. sry to ramble! sry not a bush fan if you cant tell lol
| Quote: | | First i dont beleave all are extremest that lean toward terrioist acts, that would be like juding people by the name they use. Seems if you beat down on people long enough they will rebel. I just dont condone any kind of hate, just doesnt make sense. Everyone acts as if the states is an innocent by stander in all that has gone on with Moslms these days.I just like to know where does it stop? They bomb us we bomb them! Cant we all just live with mutual respect and move on. sry to ramble! sry not a bush fan if you cant tell lol |
fully understood but i hope u no why there is so much tention with muslims. Like ill give and example last year in australia anti terrerist laws where introduced that means anyone who was suspected was straight away guilty like to communist about 60 yrs ago
there was a number of ppl cought and the explosives ingredence where so stupide like i mean 98% of the stuff u probably get from ur local grocery store where as the other 2% is stuff for paintin etc
Every muslim person is my brother and therefor I love em and try to act accordingly. Although that can be tricky with all the images we usually get of muslim people on the tv, and of course those are always the extremeist. I remember my first flight after 9-11, nearing the end of the security check point me and a couple of muslim gentlemen cought eyes and and the first reactionary thought in my head was what if they are on the same plane as me, and I'm pretty sure my face expressed that. I felt horrible that that was my first thought, so I actually hunted them down and apologized. They were pretty blown away that I actually tracked them down to apologize and explained how they are business men with some big company and they have to fly somewhere different at least once a week, and that they had recieved hundreds of those looks, but I was the first to ever apologize.
| a_dubDesign wrote: | | Every muslim person is my brother and therefor I love em and try to act accordingly. Although that can be tricky with all the images we usually get of muslim people on the tv, and of course those are always the extremeist. |
This is too true. It's like all we see on TV is how bad muslims are. We tend to forget that they are people just like us. They have families, homes, loves, hates. We sit here and let the news color our way of viewing people just because their belief system is different than our own. What has helped me is forums like this. I've come to know different people that believe different than I do about God and life in general. It was a very eye opening experience and one I'm very thankful for.
| a_dubDesign wrote: | | I remember my first flight after 9-11, nearing the end of the security check point me and a couple of muslim gentlemen cought eyes and and the first reactionary thought in my head was what if they are on the same plane as me, and I'm pretty sure my face expressed that. I felt horrible that that was my first thought, so I actually hunted them down and apologized. They were pretty blown away that I actually tracked them down to apologize and explained how they are business men with some big company and they have to fly somewhere different at least once a week, and that they had recieved hundreds of those looks, but I was the first to ever apologize. |
That was a very nice thing you did and it made me feel ashamed that I don't do it more often. Thanks for reminding me that I need to consider other peoples feelings more.
While I certainly don't think racial or religious prejudice is a good thing, I can't blame people too much for being nervous around Muslims in public places. After all, as has already been noted, we receive negative reports about Muslims nearly every day. However, I know that most of them believe in the same God I do, and recognize that terrorists have the religion all wrong.
I think that paranoia of any form is sinful because it distances us from God. We need to simply trust God and not let acquired phobias get in our way of being good people. I'm not looking down on anyone, or trying to make anyone feel bad. I'll admit that I worry more than I should about various things. But if you think about it, people can take your life or your health, but no one can take God away from you without your permission. Once I remember that, I don't fear all the catastrophes that could occur.
It does make me nervous, it's not a huge prejudice, but the thought always comes to my head. You can blame the liberal news media for portraying Islam as a religion of terrorism, but at any rate, it's not as if I "judge" the person per se, I just don't give them the same amount of trust as I normally would to any other person in public.
It sounds horrible, I know, but you asked for the truth. I'm not going to pretend and say "Well, I don't judge ANYONE" because the truth is, we all do it at some point or another.
And it's not an everyday thing either, there aren't too many Muslims in my town (but in the neighboring town, there are).
| Soulfire wrote: | | It does make me nervous, it's not a huge prejudice, but the thought always comes to my head. You can blame the liberal news media for portraying Islam as a religion of terrorism, but at any rate, it's not as if I "judge" the person per se, I just don't give them the same amount of trust as I normally would to any other person in public. |
Wait wait wait, now, I understand the the majority of the news media is liberal, with the huge exception of FOX, but you can't just place blame on the Liberal Media for portraying Islamic and Muslim people as terrorist. It is true that the media does over portray the bad things for ratings, but are you saying that the Conservative Administration hasn't done the same thing? I don't want to argue about this, but you seriously need to look at both sides that are doing the same thing before you only blame 1 of them.
As far as the topic goes, people need to understand that a majority of Islamic/Muslim people are not terrorist, and would never harm a fly. To make something so simplistic, afew bad apples thought it would be a cool idea to attack America and the UK. While America thinks they should throw their wait around and police the world because we so obviously control everyone, we want to get these people, which has been controlled by the government, passing laws and bills that excourage stereotyping Islamic and Muslim people, while many of them want to get away from the violence, and move to America. However, there, they get faced with even more prejudice, without the whole violence and whatnot. As the Media does do, they pumped up every story they could get their hands on, making people afraid, and have even more prejudice. I am not afraid of Islamic/Muslim people, nor should I be while living in this country. In fact, I have a handful of friends the are Islamic and Muslim, one that I dated for awhile. I don't fear any of my friends, nor do I have any prejudice towards them, or any others that live in my town. Why? Because it's a quiet down that just happens to be run by the mafia (there is even a squirell mafia, but that's a different story) and is the blacksheep of the other towns in Connecticut (the best example, actual quote: "Hey, you're from Middletown, you must be a drug dealer."), and there is no reason why they would attack. If I was in say Washington D.C. or New York, yeah, sure, I'd be alittle afraid, but I can't really have any real hate growing up where I grew up. The fact that there is so much discrimination about this makes me very angry, and all of this stupid prejudice needs to stop.
Also, all of you who say you don't have prejudice but are still afraid, uh, that is prejudice right there.
We only see on the TV and in the newspapers Muslim terrorists, that is not good for the imago of the Muslims, they have almost the same religion as the Christians and the Jews. Everybody is free to her/his religion.[/b]
Islam is just another religion and unfortunately some people who are, or at least claim to be, its followers will be crazy homicidal morons. In the UK the anti-muslim sentiment isn't quite as bad as we are led to believe it is in the US.
I think this is partially due to the fact that in the past 30 years we've also had plenty of terrorists who were not muslim. The IRA (a self proclaimed catholic organisation) was a far greater threat to the UK than islamic fundamentalists are now.
I don’t feel nervous at all when I see a Muslim in a public place. But then there aren’t a lot of Arabs in LA and most of them are Christian. Most Muslims aren’t Arab and most Arabs aren’t Muslim. Most of the Muslims in LA are from Malaysia. The Persians that you also might expect to be Muslim are all Jewish in LA
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