I don't have AIDS but i think that i will do...
If i have AIDS I will die in short time, will be very painfull, i will never want to infect people then i don't have sex, i will a charge for my family, i see coming it the death second to second, affortunatly i am save and i will never have AIDS....
This post is for reflection about your life. This is my opinion, what is your?
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| jaime wrote: |
I don't have AIDS but i think that i will do...
If i have AIDS I will die in short time, will be very painfull, i will never want to infect people then i don't have sex, i will a charge for my family, i see coming it the death second to second, affortunatly i am save and i will never have AIDS....
This post is for reflection about your life. This is my opinion, what is your? |
It is better to die straight away than suffering,
By suffering a lot, you manage to live for a few extra months, but the pain will be too much to bear..
I guess ending one's life is the best option at that stageEven i think i will commit sucide. End the probs jst at that min.
i dont plan to get it.........
| [FuN]goku wrote: |
| i dont plan to get it......... |
It is not like a coke can on a walmart shelf, waiting for you to be takenI wouldn't.
I'll ask the doc to give me some mediciation which will cause me to die 
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It's better to just die than suffer. | n0obie4life wrote: |
I wouldn't.
I'll ask the doc to give me some mediciation which will cause me to die .
It's better to just die than suffer. |
Then, the doc will be booked and jailed for killing you..
Finally he will join you up there soon 
@scorpio
If you have permitted the doctor to do so, he wouldn't go to jail. It's called..(i forgot it's term).
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you manage to live for a few extra months, but the pain will be too much to bear..
I guess ending one's life is the best option at that stage |
I always found that statement very amusing.
"too much to bear" ...
Well, if you are bearing the pain, then it isn't really "too much to bear".
and if the pain is indeed "too much to bear", what exactly happens to you ?
I don't know why AIDS warrants running away or even suicide ... it's just but one of the many ways by which we can die.
And I don't believe it's any more painful then the rest of them.
We all go in due time anyway. Why not live it up while we are here ... AIDS or not ?
| n0obie4life wrote: |
I'll ask the doc to give me some mediciation which will cause me to die .
It's better to just die than suffer. |
Why not wait ?
A cure might just be around the corner ... | n0obie4life wrote: |
@scorpio
If you have permitted the doctor to do so, he wouldn't go to jail. It's called..(i forgot it's term). |
It is called euthanasia actually, but it must be legal in the country where you ask the doc..
I dont know about singapore I am afraidI think it's a better thing to continue with a normal life it must be very difficult to realize, because you should think that you could die.
scorpio and manumiglani, please, be mature.
Stop starting flame wars all around the forum.
I've removed the unneccsersary flame wars and sent warnings to both parties.
I don't know how I would handle having AIDS, but I know that suicide, assisted or otherwise, would not be an option for me for many reasons, some religious, most otherwise. This is not cowardice, I fully understand that we all have to go sometime, I just don't know if I could up and leave my family like that. Way too many feelings there.
I know that each day we take a certain amount of risks in our lives...crossing the street, driving to work, even walking your dog, could end up in you getting killed in some freak accident....but to know as soon as I pull that trigger, or swallow that pill I am never going to see my family again? I don't think I have that in me.
If you can't bear the pain and you want to die, but don't want to suicide(because of religion), then(if you are in US), commit murder, and they will execute you...(although commiting murder is very bad for religion as well, but theoritically, you have time to repend, and ask for forgiveness before you die)... :LOL: I'm jumping in randomly!
Max, depending on who you are and the surroundings you grew up in, not wanting to commit suicide can be seen as both cowardice or bravery. Some people think that you're too scared to die, others might think you're too scared to live.
Oddness.
Yeah, I haven't really read anything else in this thread. Except I noticed the word Euthenasia, which I'm certain is illegal in most developed countries. Some doctors like to play Angel Of Death though, but there are certain way to get around the laws for euthenasia, I don't know how though.
-Yazz
| manumiglani wrote: |
| I will just f**k couple of girls I hate. |
I certainly hope you were kidding.
From a realistic perspective, I can state that it's unlikely that you'll be able to bed a person you hate. It would be pretty evident that if you hated them, they'd probably know and it's not really very sexually stimulating when you know that that person hates you 
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| I will just bite some guys I hate. |
You can't give AIDS by just biting. It's not rabies 
| n0obie4life wrote: |
| If you have permitted the doctor to do so, he wouldn't go to jail. It's called..(i forgot it's term). |
voluntary Euthanasia.
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| And I don't believe it's any more painful then the rest of them. |
Exactly! As far as I know, AIDS itself is not painful at all. The only thing that may cause *some* pain is if you contract some painful disease, in which case your body will not be able to fight it (obviously)
My 2 cents:
Whether or not I have AIDS, I'll continue to live, unless I had already decided to commit suicide anyway. Contracting AIDS or meeting any other major hardship should not change my attitude on whether I want to live or die.
As for suicide, I started a couple of threads on that, but both times, they fizzled out after the initial excitement of a new thread . | tidruG wrote: |
| manumiglani wrote: | | I will just f**k couple of girls I hate. |
I certainly hope you were kidding.
From a realistic perspective, I can state that it's unlikely that you'll be able to bed a person you hate. It would be pretty evident that if you hated them, they'd probably know and it's not really very sexually stimulating when you know that that person hates you |
I will do that forcefully. 
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| Quote: | | I will just bite some guys I hate. |
You can't give AIDS by just biting. It's not rabies |
I do not think you are much educated on AIDS. However, I can be wrong as always. You can even have AIDS on a simple Lips kiss with a AIDS sufferer if his/her gums are bleeding.
The condition is that one should bite with such a force that the other person should bleed. | manumiglani wrote: |
I do not think you are much educated on AIDS. However, I can be wrong as always. You can even have AIDS on a simple Lips kiss with a AIDS sufferer if his/her gums are bleeding.
The condition is that one should bite with such a force that the other person should bleed. |
Let' see ...
"Lips kiss with a AIDS sufferer" = healthy person's saliva and infected person's blood.
"bite with such a force that the other person should bleed" = infected person's saliva and healthy person's blood.
As far as I know, Saliva is not the medium for transferring HIV.
Anyway, it's not a matter of AIDS education, it's more of common sense
You'll not succeed in your untra-constructive plans, but you'll definitely get booked for assault.
| manumiglani wrote: |
| I will do that forcefully. |
Bravo ! What fun it will be to spend the rest of your (short) life in prison due to what you hate ... instead of using the time to cherish what you love. | DecayClan wrote: |
| If you can't bear the pain and you want to die, but don't want to suicide(because of religion), then(if you are in US), commit murder, and they will execute you...(although commiting murder is very bad for religion as well, but theoritically, you have time to repend, and ask for forgiveness before you die)... :LOL: |
the main probem with this theory is as mOrpheuS pointed out...you would get to spend the rest of your short life in prison. In the US it takes anywhere from 8-15 years to actually put someone to death that has been sentenced that way (all available avenues of appeal must be exhausted first)...and I would still be without my family. As for religious concerns, wouldn't you still be commiting suicide, only in this circumstance by proxy? I don't think God would recognize the "grey area" here.
I'll take my chances on a cure. If some see that as cowardice, I can't stop them...I prefer to think of it as love of family.Anyone in this thread actually chronically/terminally ill ? If so I'd like to hear your opinion.
| mOrpheuS wrote: |
| manumiglani wrote: | I do not think you are much educated on AIDS. However, I can be wrong as always. You can even have AIDS on a simple Lips kiss with a AIDS sufferer if his/her gums are bleeding.
The condition is that one should bite with such a force that the other person should bleed. |
Let' see ...
"Lips kiss with a AIDS sufferer" = healthy person's saliva and infected person's blood.
"bite with such a force that the other person should bleed" = infected person's saliva and healthy person's blood.
As far as I know, Saliva is not the medium for transferring HIV.
Anyway, it's not a matter of AIDS education, it's more of common sense |
hah! I do not know why people talk aggressively about the thing which they know nothing or less about. I am working as a aids awarness volunteer spreading awareness about aids among students in various colleges across north India. who says saliva is not the medium for transferring HIV ? who ever says this is wrong. saliva is definately a medium for transferring HIV but is some cases protein in saliva destory the HI virus. And please do not make cheap comments.
straight from red cross website -
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There is a possibility that HIV could be spread through saliva.
There have been a few cases in which biting has caused HIV infection. From an investigation of a human biting incident, a state health department reported that the evidence suggested that HIV was transmitted through blood to blood contact in mouth. Other reports in the medical literature have noted that a human bite appeared to have transmitted HIV |
I can also make my gums to bleed before biting them. 
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| You'll not succeed in your untra-constructive plans, but you'll definitely get booked for assault. |
I will definately succeed in this if I want to.
hah!!!!!! you made me laugh man by this line. Booked for assault ? me ?
And also, the person who knows he/she is dying does not care about any charges etc.........
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| manumiglani wrote: | | I will do that forcefully. |
Bravo ! What fun it will be to spend the rest of your (short) life in prison due to what you hate ... instead of using the time to cherish what you love. |
Man........... First of all I will not be booked. If so, Then the case will go on for years and years, and a person with such a short life does not care a damn about this. | manumiglani wrote: |
| who says saliva is not the medium for transferring HIV ? who ever says this is wrong. saliva is definately a medium for transferring HIV but is some cases protein in saliva destory the HI virus. |
Not proteins, they're called "anti-bodies".
| manumiglani wrote: |
straight from red cross website -
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There is a possibility that HIV could be spread through saliva.
There have been a few cases in which biting has caused HIV infection. From an investigation of a human biting incident, a state health department reported that the evidence suggested that HIV was transmitted through blood to blood contact in mouth. Other reports in the medical literature have noted that a human bite appeared to have transmitted HIV |
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"blood to blood contact".
I thought we were talking about Saliva here
Anyhow, I'll complete the text you quoted :
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| In 1997, CDC published findings from a state health department investigation of an incident that suggested blood-to-blood transmission of HIV by a human bite. There have been other reports in the medical literature in which HIV appeared to have been transmitted by a bite. Severe trauma with extensive tissue tearing and damage and presence of blood were reported in each of these instances. Biting is not a common way of transmitting HIV. In fact, there are numerous reports of bites that did not result in HIV infection. |
You may find the the last highlighted sentence relevant to your spread-the-disease mission.
Not the best of strategies, in my opinion. (see footnote)
And here's more :
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| HIV has been found in saliva and tears in very low quantities from some AIDS patients. It is important to understand that finding a small amount of HIV in a body fluid does not necessarily mean that HIV can be transmitted by that body fluid. HIV has not been recovered from the sweat of HIV-infected persons. Contact with saliva, tears, or sweat has never been shown to result in transmission of HIV. |
From the CDC's HIV fact sheet
| manumiglani wrote: |
| I can also make my gums to bleed before biting them. |
Ah ... just an insignificant microscopic detail you must have overlooked in your planning before.
If you noticed ... I derived those two equations using the details that you provided.
You never thanked me for "reminding" you of the little detail, by the way. This "may" prove critical to your mission.
| manumiglani wrote: |
| And please do not make cheap comments. |
| manumiglani wrote: |
hah!!!!!! you made me laugh man by this line. Booked for assault ? me ?
Man........... First of all I will not be booked. |
Err ... why can't you be booked ? Missed out on some more microscopic details again ?
But those were some very valuable retorts, I must admit ...
| manumiglani wrote: |
And also, the person who knows he/she is dying does not care about any charges etc.........
If so, Then the case will go on for years and years, and a person with such a short life does not care a damn about this. |
Does the person with such a short life care about the fact that he remains in police custody while the case goes on for years and years ?
Remember, the lockup cells may not be air-conditioned. 
| manumiglani wrote: |
| I am working as a aids awarness volunteer spreading awareness about aids among students in various colleges across north India. |
The AIDS awareness volunteer who plans to bite people and rape women to spread his "awareness".
Love the irony.
p.s. - By the way, you can also just shoot other people with guns all the same.
Much higher chances of "success" ... and as you say, you're immune to any kind of legal action anyway.
Last edited by mOrpheuS on Tue May 09, 2006 10:46 pm; edited 2 times in totalI do not know why clueless people just jump around quoting sources to prove that they are right. Anyways, I will clear your doubts.
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| manumiglani wrote: | | who says saliva is not the medium for transferring HIV ? who ever says this is wrong. saliva is definately a medium for transferring HIV but is some cases protein in saliva destory the HI virus. |
Not proteins, they're called "anti-bodies". |
Well just to clear your facts, anti-bodies are in reality protein molecules that are produced by wbc ( white blood cells ) in our body. hope you get that.
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I thought we were talking about Saliva here
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yeah I am talking about Saliva here.
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There is a possibility that HIV could be spread through saliva.
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please see that the text from red cross website clearly states hiv could be transmitted by saliva. Anyways I have to agree that there are no reports of hiv infection from saliva.
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| In fact, there are numerous reports of bites that did not result in HIV infection. |
I do not know where did you get that from, But its certainly not the text I quoted. ALso, it really depends on how you bite. 
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You never thanked me for "reminding" you of the little detail about making your gums bleed, by the way. |
I had that in my mind before too. But anyways, Thank you very much.
Because you will certainly not like my cheap comments and regret it.
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Does the person with such a short life care about the fact that he remains in police custody while the case goes on for years and years ?
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Ah! not again....... simply do not want to comment on this except that there is a term called "bail". you can search it on google.
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Remember, the lock-up cells may not be air-conditioned. |
I don't about the ground realities there as I have never been in lock-up cells. You must know more about them as you may have some experience being in there.
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The AIDS awareness volunteer who plans to bite people and rape women to spread his disease (or was it spreading awareness ?). |
I will certainly leave that job after I found that I am suffering from HIV. Well I am probably not going to be HIV+ anyways.
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By the way, you can also just shoot other people with guns all the same. |
Nah, I do not wanna take your job. Thats best suited to you and Osama only.
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| Much higher chances of "success" ... and as you say, you're immune to any kind of legal action anyway. |
I haven't said that I am immune. It really depends under what charges I am booked in. I do not think I can walk away from judiciary after shooting people. Also, I do not want to kill people I hate, I want to make them suffer. thats it. | manumiglani wrote: |
| I do not know why clueless people just jump around quoting sources to prove that they are right. Anyways, I will clear your doubts. |
| manumiglani wrote: |
| I do not know where did you get that from, But its certainly not the text I quoted. |
CDC is not an acceptable source of information ?
The reason I didn't quote from your source is that you never shared it.
Please don't "jump" to conclusions based on that.
| manumiglani wrote: |
| yeah I am talking about Saliva here. |
| manumiglani wrote: |
| Anyways I have to agree that there are no reports of hiv infection from saliva. |
And despite that you negate my derivation that infected saliva mixing with healthy person's blood stream will not infect the person ?
| manumiglani wrote: |
| ALso, it really depends on how you bite. |
Let me remind you how you bite :
| manumiglani wrote: |
| The condition is that one should bite with such a force that the other person should bleed. |
How could I not guess that when you said "the other person", you actually meant "the other person and my gums" ...
| manumiglani wrote: |
Because you will certainly not like my cheap comments and regret it. |
I was asking why you couldn't be booked.
Anyway, I've updated my post to clear up that confusion.
| manumiglani wrote: |
| You must know more about them as you may have some experience being in there. |
| manumiglani wrote: |
| Nah, I do not wanna take your job. Thats best suited to you and Osama only. |
Quoted for posterity.
| manumiglani wrote: |
| Thank you very much. |
No ... Thank you very much ! 
Last edited by mOrpheuS on Tue May 09, 2006 11:12 pm; edited 2 times in total | jaime wrote: |
I don't have AIDS but i think that i will do...
If i have AIDS I will die in short time, will be very painfull, i will never want to infect people then i don't have sex, i will a charge for my family, i see coming it the death second to second, affortunatly i am save and i will never have AIDS....
This post is for reflection about your life. This is my opinion, what is your? |
If i was going to suicide i would probably proof read my note if i left one.
I would rather live with AID's if i ever did get them and help others. By killing youreself youve given up hope and saying that even though u still have life youll be CHEATING LIFE 
INSTEAD OF DEATH ( or 
) | mOrpheuS wrote: |
| Thank you very much ! |
Its completely my pleasure sir!Just browsing through the thread I get the idea that the majority of you give up really easily.
except me. It would be kinda stupid to say the AID's didnt kill him, he did.
Also it sounds better when the AIDS kills you. THen u can be like damn AIDS and give ppl on a corner a dollar to help cure AIDS.
And so on
To be honest this thread seems a little ridiculous. If you are not ill then how can you know whether or not you'll think about suicide ?
| wumingsden wrote: |
| To be honest this thread seems a little ridiculous. If you are not ill then how can you know whether or not you'll think about suicide ? |
Well if you're a previously positive suicidal, or still are suicidal, then you'd know.
I'm sorta in between being suicidal and just not caring if i die or not. But I'm a good person >.> Not god-fearing, but I certainly have no thoughts of rape or biting. Well... biting as a method of spreading disease <.<
Anyways, suicidals already know how much their life means to them, and I can honestly say that if I contracted AIDs, it wouldn't make me want to die anymore than I want to now. Which isn't saying much. But I wouldn't use it as an excuse to off-myself sooner. I'd just use it as a perogative to actually do the things in life that I want to do. Besides unprotected sex. And even if it was protected sex, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't risk it with the only girl I'd do it with. I love her too much to take a chance like that.
Basically I'd see the people I'd want to see and do the things I've always wanted to do. Like... Study Martial Arts properly. Fun as hell.
Same thing goes for me if I got cancer, but I wouldn't tell anyone about it or get it treated. If I get cancer, it's exactly what I should have gotten. I'll just enjoy life properly without worries about a future. Yep, think about a future without consequence, cause it'd technically be the end of your world.
Yay for semi-philosophy!
-Yazz | Yazz wrote: |
| wumingsden wrote: | | To be honest this thread seems a little ridiculous. If you are not ill then how can you know whether or not you'll think about suicide ? |
Well if you're a previously positive suicidal, or still are suicidal, then you'd know.
I'm sorta in between being suicidal and just not caring if i die or not. But I'm a good person >.> Not god-fearing, but I certainly have no thoughts of rape or biting. Well... biting as a method of spreading disease <.<
Anyways, suicidals already know how much their life means to them, and I can honestly say that if I contracted AIDs, it wouldn't make me want to die anymore than I want to now. Which isn't saying much. But I wouldn't use it as an excuse to off-myself sooner. I'd just use it as a perogative to actually do the things in life that I want to do. Besides unprotected sex. And even if it was protected sex, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't risk it with the only girl I'd do it with. I love her too much to take a chance like that.
Basically I'd see the people I'd want to see and do the things I've always wanted to do. Like... Study Martial Arts properly. Fun as hell.
Same thing goes for me if I got cancer, but I wouldn't tell anyone about it or get it treated. If I get cancer, it's exactly what I should have gotten. I'll just enjoy life properly without worries about a future. Yep, think about a future without consequence, cause it'd technically be the end of your world.
Yay for semi-philosophy!
-Yazz |
I kind of disagree. I believe that if someone suicidal (depressed) might come out of it if they realised that they haven't got long to live. I mean wanting to die is quite a major thought, but wanting to live whilst terminally ill is an even bigger one, not to mention a great achievement. They might eventually come to their senses and realise that there life could be so much better if only they tried twice as hard.
The point I'm trying to get across is that healthy people see that having a a disease is a bad thing whilst it may not be as bad for the person that actually has itThe cancer doesn't so terrible, if the cancer is detected in the initial state then it have so much posibilities of to be nice...
| mOrpheuS wrote: |
Well, if you are bearing the pain, then it isn't really "too much to bear".
and if the pain is indeed "too much to bear", what exactly happens to you ? |
You blackout, body cannot 'bear' the pain therefore you blackout.The AIDS is fearful, may favor this sickness to present also nobody, but do not have to die, I want to be supposed with illness revolt.
I know for a fact that if the pain is too great certain parts of the brain shutdown and you really can't feel much at all...it's really wierd, you can feel grass under you, but not your own nose if you try to touch it. Them endorphins (spelling?) are pretty cool also.
Many in this thread have claimed they would commit suicide if they had a terminal illness like AIDS, all I can say is that it is very easy to say you would kill yourself...until you are actually confronted with the reality and finality of death itself. Most people who set out to kill themselves don't actually go through with it, some are just looking for attention yes, but others really did want to die and changed thier minds at the last moment.
i would probably call my girlfriend, tell her that i'll love her, but not to miss me, call my family, and do the same thing, go to the hospital, and let the doctor put me to sleep for good.
I think that it'd be best to die than to risk affecting someone else. | jaime wrote: |
| The cancer doesn't so terrible, if the cancer is detected in the initial state then it have so much posibilities of to be nice... |
Right, But in aids, testing HIV + is the first stage..
Since there is no cure, you are gonna die sooner or later@manumiglani, I think it's rather pitiable that someone who works as a AIDS awareness volunteer for several colleges has thoughts of passing on the disease by raping or biting people till they bleed.
I won't debate with you on the specific issues regarding infection or etc, but rather on moral/ethical issues.
You want to rape a couple of girls you hate, bite a few men, get your ass out of jail by bail or any other means possible, and then stagnate the case while you live out the rest of your pathetic life which you don't deserve to live (assuming you rape and bite with the intention of giving someone AIDS)? I must ask, in all seriousness, though, whether you like your job? Are you dedicated to it?
Next point. Do you care about people. manu? For example, let's say your family or your close friends? DO you think they'll still love and respect you and cherish your life if you intentionally rape and bite people with the intention of giving them the one disease you have fought against in your job?
Also, there is such a thing as non-bailable arrest warrant. Intentional double-rape can sometimes (and in my opinion, should always) result in one of those. Look up Google if you haven't heard of non-bailable warrants.
And one more thing. What's with the attitude?
FIrst Of All I believe in
" Prevention Is Better Than Cure "
Yes. It is must . One should take care for preventing such a disease.
Be faithfull to your partner( if you have one)
Always take care in your medical doses.
Do not go for drugs.
I cant remember others.
If at all after taking such care you are a victim of this disease, look out for the life saving drugs.
dont worry,
medical pharma companies are looking for cure of this disease. and i think it will be avialable shortly.
and remember, you do not die immediately from this disease , so by the time you will detect this disease, you will have cure in your hand
| tidruG wrote: |
@manumiglani, I think it's rather pitiable that someone who works as a AIDS awareness volunteer for several colleges has thoughts of passing on the disease by raping or biting people till they bleed.
I won't debate with you on the specific issues regarding infection or etc, but rather on moral/ethical issues.
You want to rape a couple of girls you hate, bite a few men, get your *** out of jail by bail or any other means possible, and then stagnate the case while you live out the rest of your pathetic life which you don't deserve to live (assuming you rape and bite with the intention of giving someone AIDS)? I must ask, in all seriousness, though, whether you like your job? Are you dedicated to it?
Next point. Do you care about people. manu? For example, let's say your family or your close friends? DO you think they'll still love and respect you and cherish your life if you intentionally rape and bite people with the intention of giving them the one disease you have fought against in your job?
Also, there is such a thing as non-bailable arrest warrant. Intentional double-rape can sometimes (and in my opinion, should always) result in one of those. Look up Google if you haven't heard of non-bailable warrants.
And one more thing. What's with the attitude? |
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha .......... I really can't stop laughing
Hey man chill out. I am not going to do that even if I get infected with hiv. Life is playing with me all the times. So, sometimes I crack dam bad jokes or say some crazy things. Anyways, I was only kidding. I think mOrpheuS knows that too. Do you mOrpheuS ? Anyways, I can't even take that you really thought that I am going to do that when infected from hiv.
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| I must ask, in all seriousness, though, whether you like your job? Are you dedicated to it? |
Well tidruG,
Its not a job. I am computer engineering student. I am not paid for it and I do not even want to get money for doing such a thing. Also, I love doing this and commited to do that atleast till I am in college. Although, I have to shameless sometimes 
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| Look up Google if you haven't heard of non-bailable warrants. |
Do you really know when non-bailable warrents are issued ? AH! what can i Say
Anyways thanks for your post. I can't even stop my laugh reading this and it really helped me to get over my bad mood ( as usual ).This is a hard one to tackle. On one hand you have the idea that death would be better then suffering through a painfull life. On the other you have the idea that there may not be anything else after death. I geuss if you have faith in some esoteric system of spirit and soul then its easier to take living for granted.
I personaly find the idea of dying very frightening. I personaly dont believe in an afterlife. I have a tough time beleiving in anything I dont see physical evedence of. With that in mind death would mean the end of this existance for me, and this existance is the only thing ive ever known or thought I knew. That really freaks me out, I understand that we all die someday but I wont be speeding up to get there if I can help it.
To put it simply, I guess I would just suffer as long as possible untile I died unovoidably from the desease. I value my life that much, even my suffering is a beautifull experience. Of course that may change givin diffrent cercumstance?
I dun have aids but I have hep c
life goes on!
| jaime wrote: |
I don't have AIDS but i think that i will do...
If i have AIDS I will die in short time, will be very painfull, i will never want to infect people then i don't have sex, i will a charge for my family, i see coming it the death second to second, affortunatly i am save and i will never have AIDS....
This post is for reflection about your life. This is my opinion, what is your?
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| scorpio wrote: |
| jaime wrote: | I don't have AIDS but i think that i will do...
If i have AIDS I will die in short time, will be very painfull, i will never want to infect people then i don't have sex, i will a charge for my family, i see coming it the death second to second, affortunatly i am save and i will never have AIDS....
This post is for reflection about your life. This is my opinion, what is your? |
It is better to die straight away than suffering,
By suffering a lot, you manage to live for a few extra months, but the pain will be too much to bear..
I guess ending one's life is the best option at that stage |
If you kill yourself, its straight to Hell, your soul will anyway burn in Hell forever if you kill yourself! If you suffer and accidently happen to find Christ and get saved, though you now suffer you will go to Heaven after your sufference!
People don't be hasty and make rash decidions about suicide, its crazy! | Whong wrote: |
| scorpio wrote: | | jaime wrote: | I don't have AIDS but i think that i will do...
If i have AIDS I will die in short time, will be very painfull, i will never want to infect people then i don't have sex, i will a charge for my family, i see coming it the death second to second, affortunatly i am save and i will never have AIDS....
This post is for reflection about your life. This is my opinion, what is your? |
It is better to die straight away than suffering,
By suffering a lot, you manage to live for a few extra months, but the pain will be too much to bear..
I guess ending one's life is the best option at that stage |
If you kill yourself, its straight to Hell, your soul will anyway burn in Hell forever if you kill yourself! If you suffer and accidently happen to find Christ and get saved, though you now suffer you will go to Heaven after your sufference!
People don't be hasty and make rash decidions about suicide, its crazy! |
I'm sorry but are you actually that dilluded ? Tell me, do you have any illnesses ? | manumiglani wrote: |
| I will just f**k couple of girls I hate. I will just bite some guys I hate. Thats it. |
I got to say, I respect you for that!! that is cool!!
And i think I would do some of the same, but also, I would rob a bank, buy a limosine, live the rest of my live as good and rich as possable, and then at last, maybe jump out from a large bridge I don't know well about 'AIDS'
I was just told that it's very seriou and terrible disease in the world.
and there are so many people who are suffering with it.
if I get AIDS, hm.... I'm not sure what i will do.
But I always think my life is given by God and He has a plan for me even though I get serious diseases like AIDS.
I'm not strong. so if it comes true to me, I don't know what I will do.
However, I'm trying to do my best to live.
Now, I just hope it will not happen to me.. ^^
| tidruG wrote: |
| And one more thing. What's with the attitude? |
| manumiglani wrote: |
| ha ha ha ha ha ha ha .......... I really can't stop laughing |
???
| manumiglani wrote: |
| Quote: | | Look up Google if you haven't heard of non-bailable warrants. |
Do you really know when non-bailable warrents are issued ? AH! what can i Say |
Rape is a non-bailable offence in India, just like most other places.
tidruG says he's not much concerned with the specific issues regarding infection etc., but I am.
Speaking of which, you only replied to my greetings. But avoided all the other points/questions in my last post ...
| manumiglani wrote: |
| I think mOrpheuS knows that too. |
You presume too much about me ... including my thoughts, my criminal records and my connections with terrorists.
Any particular reason behind that ?Well I think it's more wise to finish it fast, So yes, It's best to kill yourself instead of going thru the pain and the hardship of having aids.
Plus you can do all you always wanted to do that you never dared to do. Insult your boss, Do crazy things, Go on a vandalism spree against all your past and present enemies and so on, The possibilities are endless. It reminds me of this video about this guy who was terminally ill, He filmed his last moments doing all sorts of crazy things, Screaming F*** non stop in public areas, Heck he gave S*** to his boss and even S***ted on his bosses desk with real S***. Whats funnier is he even provoke an insult war with a shop owner that once Screwed him by ripping him off, What he did was he messed his store up. And finally my favorite part, He actually when near a restaurant and grabbed all the spaghetti on this patrons plate and ate it and even offered her some of her food. Hilarious.
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Although AIDS is still a fatal disease, over the past years it has become a managealbe disease. Its very interesting to read what people say on this subject. However, in my opinion, not matter what the circumstances are, suicide is not the answer.
I live in a big city, and I have volunteered to The AIDS committee here, and I know people that have lived long and healthy lives. Some still 15 years later and they are still here with no suffering and pain. Sure there are side effects to the medications, but for most, these side effects are more of an inconvenience than anything else.
Life is full of side effects anyways.
Look at Magic Johnson...He was diagnosed years ago, and is still living a good and healthy life.
To those that say they would commit suicide...my guess is that this idea would change if you were diagnosed with AIDS. Your head space would be completely different, and your perspective would change.
Suicide would only take away your chances at the possibility of a cure, or better treatment. Lets say for example, you contracted the virus today. You would be symptom free for up to 15 years, and what if during that 15 years, they found a cure? Would you give up that chance by saying goodbye to this world. Medical advances are much faster than they have ever been before. There is a good chance that they will find it.
But suicide would eliminate that chance.
Something to think about.
Finally, AIDS is something that is transmitted through unprotected sex. When having sexual relations with others, always assume they carry the virus. With that in mind, you would always ensure that safe sex is the only way. This motto or assumption has kept me healthy.
AIDS is no longer a death sentence...it is a change in life. And people that have contracted the virus, are no different than anyone else. They too can have healthy productive lives.
Remember...no glove...no love
cheers
Well, i am Christian and in the Christian religion, suicide is a considered a sin. Therefor, i would just have to bear the pain until i died.
| wumingsden wrote: |
| Whong wrote: | | scorpio wrote: | | jaime wrote: | I don't have AIDS but i think that i will do...
If i have AIDS I will die in short time, will be very painfull, i will never want to infect people then i don't have sex, i will a charge for my family, i see coming it the death second to second, affortunatly i am save and i will never have AIDS....
This post is for reflection about your life. This is my opinion, what is your? |
It is better to die straight away than suffering,
By suffering a lot, you manage to live for a few extra months, but the pain will be too much to bear..
I guess ending one's life is the best option at that stage |
If you kill yourself, its straight to Hell, your soul will anyway burn in Hell forever if you kill yourself! If you suffer and accidently happen to find Christ and get saved, though you now suffer you will go to Heaven after your sufference!
People don't be hasty and make rash decidions about suicide, its crazy! |
I'm sorry but are you actually that dilluded ? Tell me, do you have any illnesses ? |
who?? me??
if it's me i'm healthful, Single it wanted to reflect that the life is necessary to take care of it and love it so much.Really I don't think that the cure for the AIDS comes in next 50 years or more. In fact there are news medicines that act of different form and prolong the life still more but are expensives.
By its same molecular structure, there is no vaccine against AIDS, only treatments that prolong the life and all disease that we suffer equal shortens the life to us. But the AIDS prearranges to more diseases and cancers, limit to you almost in their totality in the society, many friends will move away and understands, they are not wanted to infect, therefore you thinks about the personal consequences that it would bring this dissease...
| Whong wrote: |
| scorpio wrote: | | jaime wrote: | I don't have AIDS but i think that i will do...
If i have AIDS I will die in short time, will be very painfull, i will never want to infect people then i don't have sex, i will a charge for my family, i see coming it the death second to second, affortunatly i am save and i will never have AIDS....
This post is for reflection about your life. This is my opinion, what is your? |
It is better to die straight away than suffering,
By suffering a lot, you manage to live for a few extra months, but the pain will be too much to bear..
I guess ending one's life is the best option at that stage |
If you kill yourself, its straight to Hell, your soul will anyway burn in Hell forever if you kill yourself! If you suffer and accidently happen to find Christ and get saved, though you now suffer you will go to Heaven after your sufference!
People don't be hasty and make rash decidions about suicide, its crazy! |
Jeez..
Are you some religious fanatic..
If so I must apologize for hurting your sentiments
@Jaime
He was not referring to you, he was asking whongC'mon AIDS is not the end of this world../
There are more serious disease than AIDS, AIDS doesn't kill you.
C'mon and stop calling AIDS coz the initial stage is HIV positive stage which can be a long way to go.. You can do a lot of thng during that period........
And HIV is not always about borne from unsafe sex.... c'mon why should you think that. Any body can catch AIDS, there are different other routes as well.
These kinds of questions like will you suicide after getting AIDS only will discourage the HIV victims making them to feel HIV is end of this world. wE SHOULD CREATE AWARENESS C'MON.
| saiyeek wrote: |
There are more serious disease than AIDS, AIDS doesn't kill you. |
Then what does it do to us>?
Gives us a couple of billion bucks and a healthy life?
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C'mon and stop calling AIDS coz the initial stage is HIV positive stage which can be a long way to go.. You can do a lot of thng during that period |
That is right, after you overcome the shock and pain
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And HIV is not always about borne from unsafe sex.... c'mon why should you think that. Any body can catch AIDS, there are different other routes as well. |
Perhaps so, but it certainly does not mean it is floating in the air and everybody gets it.
It is that AIDS results mostly from unsafe sex
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| These kinds of questions like will you suicide after getting AIDS only will discourage the HIV victims making them to feel HIV is end of this world. |
I dont understand how. It is only being asked if they will or not.
We are not asking them to end their life or talk about how it would be better for them if they did so.
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wE SHOULD CREATE AWARENESS C'MON. |
yes that we should do | mOrpheuS wrote: |
| manumiglani wrote: | | Quote: | | Look up Google if you haven't heard of non-bailable warrants. |
Do you really know when non-bailable warrents are issued ? AH! what can i Say |
Rape is a non-bailable offence in India, just like most other places. |
Hah! man so there are persons who are training me or giving me information about law and aids. I know propably more than these things about anyone in the forums. However, I can be wrong as usual.
Well do you know when non-bailable warrents are issued ? Non-bailable warrents are issued only when the the accused does not obey the bailable warrant and the magistrate/judge is sure of this. Non-bailable warrents aren't issued in every case of intentional rape.
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a non-bailable warrant issued without a preceding bailable warrant, is not in accordance with the scheme of the criminal procedure code and hence illegal |
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tidruG says he's not much concerned with the specific issues regarding infection etc., but I am.
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cdc is definately a acceptable source of information. But u said that you are quoting it from the source I quoted from. how can you quote from the source which you never know? Anyways I mentioned it that it is quoted from redcross's website.
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I was asking why you couldn't be booked. |
I haven't said that I can't be booked but the persons who commit Intentional and planned crimes are not booked that often.
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Speaking of which, you only replied to my greetings. But avoided all the other points/questions in
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I can't do anything if you keep on editing your posts and add your points/questions
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but I have tried to comment on all. Also, I do not really comment on all the points/questions.
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How could I not guess that when you said "the other person", you actually meant "the other person and my gums" ...
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It depends on how you bite.
| mOrpheuS wrote: |
| my criminal records and my connections with terrorists. |
My was only a guess, the truth can only be revealed by you. | manumiglani wrote: |
| a non-bailable warrant issued without a preceding bailable warrant, is not in accordance with the scheme of the criminal procedure code and hence illegal |
This time I've located the source of your quote.
And once again I'd like to complete it for everyone's benefit :
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| In case of a bailable offence, when the magistrate decided to issue a warrant, at the first instance he should issue only a bailable warrant — one containing an endorsement specified under Section 71 of the Code of Criminal Procedure. "Therefore, a non-bailable warrant issued without a preceding bailable warrant, where the offence is bailable, is not in accordance with the scheme of the criminal procedure code and hence illegal." |
Notice the clauses about "bailable offence" that your so conveniently snipped out. Not only from the begining, but you cut out parts from in between !
That sure lends a huge amount of credibility to your claims/boasts.
| manumiglani wrote: |
| I know propably more than these things about anyone in the forums. |
Uh huh.
Good assumption to start a debate with.
But don't bet on it.
| manumiglani wrote: |
| Non-bailable warrents aren't issued in every case of intentional rape. |
Tell us more about the cases of non-intentional rape.
| manumiglani wrote: |
| cdc is definately a acceptable source of information. But u said that you are quoting it from the source I quoted from. how can you quote from the source which you never know? Anyways I mentioned it that it is quoted from redcross's website. |
I never said that I quoted from the same source, merely that I was completing the text that you'd quoted.
But does the fact that I quoted from a different source render my derivations incorrect ?
That is :
Was I wrong to state that a "bite with such a force that the other person should bleed." will not result in HIV infection ?
| manumiglani wrote: |
| I do not really comment on all the points/questions. |
That's alright, but I was only hoping you wouldn't avoid the main point of the post.
| manumiglani wrote: |
| I haven't said that I can't be booked |
| manumiglani wrote: |
| hah!!!!!! you made me laugh man by this line. Booked for assault ? me ? |
There.
| manumiglani wrote: |
I can't do anything if you keep on editing your posts and add your points/questions
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I edited my post on 2:42 am ... You replied on 3:08 am
Such flat lies only hurt the credibility of your words.
| manumiglani wrote: |
| mOrpheuS wrote: | | my criminal records and my connections with terrorists. |
My was only a guess, the truth can only be revealed by you. |
I was asking you of the basis of that guess/assumption.No, I'd never commit suicide. I would let nature take it course, and take the neccessary procautions.
AIDS doesn't kill you directly, and isn't anywhere near as "painfull" as many other diseases and medical "issues" in the world today.
Life is life. It would have to be better to live, and help those with the same/similar problem to you, than to take the easy way out and have them think there is no hope.
| wumingsden wrote: |
| Whong wrote: | | scorpio wrote: | | jaime wrote: | I don't have AIDS but i think that i will do...
If i have AIDS I will die in short time, will be very painfull, i will never want to infect people then i don't have sex, i will a charge for my family, i see coming it the death second to second, affortunatly i am save and i will never have AIDS....
This post is for reflection about your life. This is my opinion, what is your? |
It is better to die straight away than suffering,
By suffering a lot, you manage to live for a few extra months, but the pain will be too much to bear..
I guess ending one's life is the best option at that stage |
If you kill yourself, its straight to Hell, your soul will anyway burn in Hell forever if you kill yourself! If you suffer and accidently happen to find Christ and get saved, though you now suffer you will go to Heaven after your sufference!
People don't be hasty and make rash decidions about suicide, its crazy! |
I'm sorry but are you actually that dilluded ? Tell me, do you have any illnesses ? |
Yes I have some allergies and they are not at all nice, but I just go on in the mercy of God, Who has already almost heald my allergies!
I strongly believe in the things that the Bible tells me! | Whong wrote: |
| wumingsden wrote: | | Whong wrote: | | scorpio wrote: | | jaime wrote: | I don't have AIDS but i think that i will do...
If i have AIDS I will die in short time, will be very painfull, i will never want to infect people then i don't have sex, i will a charge for my family, i see coming it the death second to second, affortunatly i am save and i will never have AIDS....
This post is for reflection about your life. This is my opinion, what is your? |
It is better to die straight away than suffering,
By suffering a lot, you manage to live for a few extra months, but the pain will be too much to bear..
I guess ending one's life is the best option at that stage |
If you kill yourself, its straight to Hell, your soul will anyway burn in Hell forever if you kill yourself! If you suffer and accidently happen to find Christ and get saved, though you now suffer you will go to Heaven after your sufference!
People don't be hasty and make rash decidions about suicide, its crazy! |
I'm sorry but are you actually that dilluded ? Tell me, do you have any illnesses ? |
Yes I have some allergies and they are not at all nice, but I just go on in the mercy of God, Who has already almost heald my allergies!
I strongly believe in the things that the Bible tells me! |
Good for you Whong!
But the least you can do is not criticise my decision mOrpheuS, I do not know how many times you change your post. Whay can't you stand still on your words. Thank God, I saw the changed post this time or I would have been called a liar again.
| mOrpheuS wrote: |
This time I've located the source of your quote.
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You haven't this time also. You are wrong this time also. I quoted this from a book by SK MISHRA ( criminal law of India - Indian panel code ). If you don't believe it, then go and buy the book. That will only cost 200 INR however the printed price is 250 INR.
I have seen this link for the first time. I do not know if the author copy pasted it from IPC or from anywhere. I admit that I snipped out some parts from the source.
you are wrong as you can get a bail if you are a rape accused.
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| Abhishek Kasliwal, the son of a leading city industrialist, was granted bail by the Bombay High Court Tuesday in the case of allegedly raping a 52-year-old woman at a textile mill in Mumbai last month. Source |
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| An Indian court granted bail on Friday to a South African judge accused of raping a fellow delegate in a Bombay hotel during an anti-globalisation meeting. source |
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But don't bet on it. |
I am not. I already stated I can be wrong.
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But does the fact that I quoted from a different source render my derivations incorrect ? |
I said that you have quoted some text other than from the source from which I quoted. How could you complete it if you even do not know the source ? By stating that you are giving a impression that you are quoting the full text from the source I quoted from. Do mention that you are completeing it from any other source you found.
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| Such flat lies only hurt |
watchout 
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| I edited my post on 2:42 am ... You replied on 3:08 am |
I read your reply before you edited it and pressed quote button and then went to the next tab on my browser, read a full article there and then came back to the tab and replied to your post. I have to do this as I was on dail up at that time.
Aslo, do think twice before calling anyone liar. That will not make you look smart. But it can really help you to feel smart. | scorpio wrote: |
| Whong wrote: | | wumingsden wrote: | | Whong wrote: | | scorpio wrote: | | jaime wrote: | I don't have AIDS but i think that i will do...
If i have AIDS I will die in short time, will be very painfull, i will never want to infect people then i don't have sex, i will a charge for my family, i see coming it the death second to second, affortunatly i am save and i will never have AIDS....
This post is for reflection about your life. This is my opinion, what is your? |
It is better to die straight away than suffering,
By suffering a lot, you manage to live for a few extra months, but the pain will be too much to bear..
I guess ending one's life is the best option at that stage |
If you kill yourself, its straight to Hell, your soul will anyway burn in Hell forever if you kill yourself! If you suffer and accidently happen to find Christ and get saved, though you now suffer you will go to Heaven after your sufference!
People don't be hasty and make rash decidions about suicide, its crazy! |
I'm sorry but are you actually that dilluded ? Tell me, do you have any illnesses ? |
Yes I have some allergies and they are not at all nice, but I just go on in the mercy of God, Who has already almost heald my allergies!
I strongly believe in the things that the Bible tells me! |
Good for you Whong!
But the least you can do is not criticise my decision |
I'm not criticising your decision, I'm just stating a fact of my belief, haven't you ever thought what happens when you die? | Whong wrote: |
| scorpio wrote: | | Whong wrote: | | wumingsden wrote: | | Whong wrote: | | scorpio wrote: | | jaime wrote: | I don't have AIDS but i think that i will do...
If i have AIDS I will die in short time, will be very painfull, i will never want to infect people then i don't have sex, i will a charge for my family, i see coming it the death second to second, affortunatly i am save and i will never have AIDS....
This post is for reflection about your life. This is my opinion, what is your? |
It is better to die straight away than suffering,
By suffering a lot, you manage to live for a few extra months, but the pain will be too much to bear..
I guess ending one's life is the best option at that stage |
If you kill yourself, its straight to Hell, your soul will anyway burn in Hell forever if you kill yourself! If you suffer and accidently happen to find Christ and get saved, though you now suffer you will go to Heaven after your sufference!
People don't be hasty and make rash decidions about suicide, its crazy! |
I'm sorry but are you actually that dilluded ? Tell me, do you have any illnesses ? |
Yes I have some allergies and they are not at all nice, but I just go on in the mercy of God, Who has already almost heald my allergies!
I strongly believe in the things that the Bible tells me! |
Good for you Whong!
But the least you can do is not criticise my decision |
I'm not criticising your decision, I'm just stating a fact of my belief, haven't you ever thought what happens when you die? |
Of course I wonder ..
But the fact is that instead of merely contemplating and wondering about the consequences, it would be better to know it.
Eventually you will be dying.
Why not earlier.Also, I think I would approve euthanasia than suicide since noobie suggested it
PS: The quoting design above looks cool | scorpio wrote: |
| Whong wrote: | | scorpio wrote: | | Whong wrote: | | wumingsden wrote: | | Whong wrote: | | scorpio wrote: | | jaime wrote: | I don't have AIDS but i think that i will do...
If i have AIDS I will die in short time, will be very painfull, i will never want to infect people then i don't have sex, i will a charge for my family, i see coming it the death second to second, affortunatly i am save and i will never have AIDS....
This post is for reflection about your life. This is my opinion, what is your? |
It is better to die straight away than suffering,
By suffering a lot, you manage to live for a few extra months, but the pain will be too much to bear..
I guess ending one's life is the best option at that stage |
If you kill yourself, its straight to Hell, your soul will anyway burn in Hell forever if you kill yourself! If you suffer and accidently happen to find Christ and get saved, though you now suffer you will go to Heaven after your sufference!
People don't be hasty and make rash decidions about suicide, its crazy! |
I'm sorry but are you actually that dilluded ? Tell me, do you have any illnesses ? |
Yes I have some allergies and they are not at all nice, but I just go on in the mercy of God, Who has already almost heald my allergies!
I strongly believe in the things that the Bible tells me! |
Good for you Whong!
But the least you can do is not criticise my decision |
I'm not criticising your decision, I'm just stating a fact of my belief, haven't you ever thought what happens when you die? |
Of course I wonder ..
But the fact is that instead of merely contemplating and wondering about the consequences, it would be better to know it.
Eventually you will be dying.
Why not earlier.Also, I think I would approve euthanasia than suicide since noobie suggested it
PS: The quoting design above looks cool |
Yeah it does. I would not aprove of abortion neither of euthanasia nor of suicide! If you want to kill your self you must feel very low about yourself! I would never kill myself just for some sufference, but the choice is yours! | manumiglani wrote: |
| I admit that I snipped out some parts from the source. |
You haven't merely "snipped out some parts" ... You've doctored it to the point that the very meaning of the law has changed.
You removed the clause about "bailable offence" just in an attempt use it where it isn't even relevant.
That's not exactly an honest or truthful way to debate.
| manumiglani wrote: |
| Aslo, do think twice before calling anyone liar. |
You wouldn't have to worry about that if you'd only be truthful in your words ... and if you didn't fabricate facts in an attempt to prove a point.
Maybe you should think twice before you do that, and be wary that someone might call your bluffs.
Fabricated evidence is not truthful ... what is not truthful is a lie.
| manumiglani wrote: |
| watchout |
For ... ? 
| manumiglani wrote: |
| you are wrong as you can get a bail if you are a rape accused. |
I am wrong ... on what account ?
What statement of mine is disproved by this ?
Please enlighten.
However I'm sure you'll agree that you're wrong on this account: | manumiglani wrote: |
| Non-bailable warrents are issued only when the the accused does not obey the bailable warrant and the magistrate/judge is sure of this. |
And this: | manumiglani wrote: |
| The condition is that one should bite with such a force that the other person should bleed. |