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Australia; where pretences and denial substitute for reality

 


S3nd K3ys
It's been this way for a long time. Settlers in Australia stripped Aborigines of their land, their pride and everything that goes along with it. In the late part of the 1800's and early part of the 1900's the Aborigines (Australia's "indians") were slaughtered by the hundreds of thousands. Their numbers went from (estimates range between) 1 and 5 million down to mearly 60,000.

Jim Duffield wrote:

Australia is not like the US where treaties, as corrupt as they may have been, were negotiated with indigenous peoples and native title and indigenous nationhood understood and even accepted by some from earliest colonial times. Australian racism is Aboriginalism (Oz anti indigenous ethnocentrism), and therefore self denial.


This mind-set still exists. A few years ago these statements were made...

Quote:

Hugh Morgan of Western Mining Corp: "...Mr Morgan told the Victorian Returned Services League conference that Aboriginal culture was doomed because it was inferior to European culture..."
- The Courier-Mail, 2.7.93, page 2

Tim Fisher - now Deputy Prime Minister: "'At no stage did Aboriginal civilisation develop substantial buildings, roadways or even a wheeled cart.' Dispossession was bound to happen, he said. 'Those in the guilt industry have to consider that developing cultures and peoples will always overtake relatively stationary cultures'."
- The Australian, 22.6.93, page 8


...and later defended against accusations of bigotry and racism by none other than John Howard.

The roots of racism by Australians runs long and deep, and their denial of it is strong and steadfast.
S3nd K3ys
Didn't hear about this before. How ironic...


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/690213.stm from 2000 wrote:

A UN committee on the elimination of racial discrimination published a report on Friday criticising Australia for failing to override mandatory sentencing laws in effect in Western Australia and the Northern Territory.
blackheart
I suggest you read the book "Buried my heart at wounded knee" - about the slaughter and forceful taking of land from the Indians. And although what my "ancestors" did to the aboriginal people is disgusting, it wasn't nearly as bad as half of American history.

Also, in terms of American history, they once had legalised slave labor of "the blacks", and even now have under the table slavery though mexican imigrants - with about 3 million tolerated within the country because of their cheap labor (they work for peanuts).
And then why not bring up the KKK?

I never stated racism was non-existent here (in Australia), just that it is no different to anywhere else, and overall we are a pretty racially tolerant people.

I live here, my friendship group is mixed - negro, asian, italian, skip, canadian, american, and everything in-between, every one of them has experienced some form of racism before, but it's hardly an issue. We're talking one or two petty comments in a life time.
According to Suli moving here from the states was the best thing her parents ever did (her dad's af.american and her mum is egyptian).
But even then that is one example, and could just mean she happened to live in a dodgy area. One does not equal or reflect all.

Also, selective media is not a good or reliable source on any issue. The opinions and loose statements of a couple Australians does not represent an entire country.

And the only examples you have are 13 years old, and although I don't agree with them, I don't think they have any relevence to Australia today... well, I guess the 2000 article is only 6 years old.

I'm sure I could dig up just as much a racist comment/action/policy by an American politician if we're going back that far, but it would be pointless, as I don't think they'd be an accurate representation of the American people/society either.
gh0stface
blackheart wrote:

Also, in terms of American history, they once had legalised slave labor of "the blacks", and even now have under the table slavery though mexican imigrants - with about 3 million tolerated within the country because of their cheap labor (they work for peanuts).
And then why not bring up the KKK?

I'm from the US and that's not all that they did too. The Americans also pretty much wiped out the indigenous people that were already living in the Americas after the indigenous helped them out survive the harsh winters which they were untotally unprepared for. Americans stole the lands, forced the Native Americans into desolate areas and called them reservations.

Americans also introduced biological warfare to wipe out the Native Americans. They had blankets that were crawling with the small pox disease and would trade them to the Native Americans.

But you know what, the past is the past. You learn from it, put it to good use and try not to make the same mistake, and move on.
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