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Beheading's Right or Wrong?
The war Currently in the Middle East with the Middle Eastern Countries and America is really taking affect on the rest of the world, Bringing tear's to many people's eye's, killing alot of innocent, Wasting Money.
I seriously don't even know why G.W.B even sent troop's over to the Middle East he sent them there and they just destroyed everything nothing's wrong? when Saddam Hussien(Hopefully YOull Find A Way Out) was in-control it was better, now there's more suicide's and more deaths'!!
Now iv'e been researching alot on beheading's and i certainly don't like them BUT there's always reason's Muslim Terrorist's do it.
Me myself am a Muslim and proud, as i said i hate the beheading's they are disgusting but...
**What would you do if someone came and overtook your country, place and home and killing all innocent people?
You see i seriously don't know what Iraq and Afghanistan did to America to my knowledge they did nothing. President Bush is one hell of a coward with no soul. We see him on a stand with "In God We Trust" printed behind hm, If in God he trust's, God doesn't state go kill all the innocent and steal their country. Does he?.
In the Quran Allah(God) states: "In A War You Only Kill Who Is Fighting, Do Not Kill The Medics, Do Not Kill No Children and Do Not Kill No Women"
and another
Allah(God) also states: "Try To Make Friend's With The Non-Believer's Do Not Fight With The Non-Believers"
You see us Muslim's are peaceful.
So What You Think Of IT?
(if i have typed anything wrong please correct me)
I seriously don't even know why G.W.B even sent troop's over to the Middle East he sent them there and they just destroyed everything nothing's wrong? when Saddam Hussien(Hopefully YOull Find A Way Out) was in-control it was better, now there's more suicide's and more deaths'!!
Now iv'e been researching alot on beheading's and i certainly don't like them BUT there's always reason's Muslim Terrorist's do it.
Me myself am a Muslim and proud, as i said i hate the beheading's they are disgusting but...
**What would you do if someone came and overtook your country, place and home and killing all innocent people?
You see i seriously don't know what Iraq and Afghanistan did to America to my knowledge they did nothing. President Bush is one hell of a coward with no soul. We see him on a stand with "In God We Trust" printed behind hm, If in God he trust's, God doesn't state go kill all the innocent and steal their country. Does he?.
In the Quran Allah(God) states: "In A War You Only Kill Who Is Fighting, Do Not Kill The Medics, Do Not Kill No Children and Do Not Kill No Women"
and another
Allah(God) also states: "Try To Make Friend's With The Non-Believer's Do Not Fight With The Non-Believers"
You see us Muslim's are peaceful.
So What You Think Of IT?
(if i have typed anything wrong please correct me)
| RaMo wrote: |
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You see us Muslim's are peaceful. |
Here's a pity reply...
"Muslims" have been doing this crap for CENTURIES.
GWB and the USA are NOT THAT OLD.
Please stop blaming this crap on the US. The US is putting a stop to it, not starting it.
That was such a dumb poll. You titled it "Beheadings right or wrong" then gave a bunch of answers to the poll that didn't really answer the question suggested in the title? FOr example:
"Beheadings right or wrong"
poll answer: "where the hell is osama?"
People like you are the reason this forum is so lame and full of mindless babble.
"Beheadings right or wrong"
poll answer: "where the hell is osama?"
People like you are the reason this forum is so lame and full of mindless babble.
guyz guyz... I know the poll is stupid... but atleast listen to what he said... make him understand that... all muslims are not peacefull... and at the same time... US is famous for cheating and stealing.... all the world knows that this war is a totally illegal.. and not moral one... but think is this way RAMO... Allah knows everything going on this earth.. right? so if US went to war... and if there is no peace in Middle east... think it this way... it was all Allah's decision...
But I have a personal question to ask RaMo... there is some of my brothers (Indians) got killed by these stupid people in.. leader ship of a stupid Imam in afghanistan... what they did was cruel and immoral... same as you think US is doing now... so am I calling all muslims stupid? Noooo... Iam not.. So.. what should I think about Muslims in general... ?
But I have a personal question to ask RaMo... there is some of my brothers (Indians) got killed by these stupid people in.. leader ship of a stupid Imam in afghanistan... what they did was cruel and immoral... same as you think US is doing now... so am I calling all muslims stupid? Noooo... Iam not.. So.. what should I think about Muslims in general... ?
You think any country's government cares about ANYONE's life but their own? They have their own interests that I will not discuss in this forum but it's the truth. It is the human's greedy nature that is at fault.
First of all, most of the violence in Iraq is from Sunnis and Shiites killing each other, not from Americans killing people.
Iraq is one thing, I was totally opposed to it from the first moment I heard about it, long before the invasion. But Afghanistan is quite another thing. We rescued Afghans from the Taliban and they are grateful. The Afghans themselves were the Talban's worst victims. We have less then a tenth of the troop presence in Afghanistan that we have in Iraq, things are much more peaceful there. Afghanistan was a good move, both for us and them. Going into Iraq was pure stupidity.
Iraq is one thing, I was totally opposed to it from the first moment I heard about it, long before the invasion. But Afghanistan is quite another thing. We rescued Afghans from the Taliban and they are grateful. The Afghans themselves were the Talban's worst victims. We have less then a tenth of the troop presence in Afghanistan that we have in Iraq, things are much more peaceful there. Afghanistan was a good move, both for us and them. Going into Iraq was pure stupidity.
| swapnalokam wrote: |
| US is famous for cheating and stealing.... |
Can you honestly name ANY government in the world that doesn't do the same thing? I thought this thread was about beheadings...not US bashing.
firstly yes muslims do have fualts but u think of it everyone dose also the hole islam is peace thing look in jureslem jews r distroying muslim ok then theres the oh but muslims are suesidel couse in palestin/israle thay kill them selfs but they realy feel there is no other way fro them to fight there strongest weopon beside the suiside is a rock also with that area i think we all no salahaldin yeh and the crusades who knows who started the crusade??? (i no the answer but who else) althought the muslim where in control at the time all muslim cristans and jews where living peacefully until the crusades took over
also there is a stroy of an english gernelist who had been capted by the talban and she says that practicly thay where who brang her to islam
i will find it and post it but hears a site with muslim conver storys
http://www.islamicweb.com/begin/newMuslims/
also there is a stroy of an english gernelist who had been capted by the talban and she says that practicly thay where who brang her to islam
i will find it and post it but hears a site with muslim conver storys
http://www.islamicweb.com/begin/newMuslims/
Sorry forgot to change the Subject coz i Changed the poll questions and the article i wrote.. and forgot to change the subject
| mike1reynolds wrote: |
| First of all, most of the violence in Iraq is from Sunnis and Shiites killing each other, not from Americans killing people.
Iraq is one thing, I was totally opposed to it from the first moment I heard about it, long before the invasion. But Afghanistan is quite another thing. We rescued Afghans from the Taliban and they are grateful. The Afghans themselves were the Talban's worst victims. We have less then a tenth of the troop presence in Afghanistan that we have in Iraq, things are much more peaceful there. Afghanistan was a good move, both for us and them. Going into Iraq was pure stupidity. |
If Sunni's and Shiat's Killing each other in Iraq, What The Hell Does GWB Got To Do With !!!!! ??... Lets him solve the problems that his got on his Own soil like... Blacks killin Blacks, Whites Killin Whites, Blacks Killin White, White Killing Black, all the drugs all the deaths in America and he sends troops to iraq to get them killled even more seriously stupid?
| RaMo wrote: |
| If Sunni's and Shiat's Killing each other in Iraq, What The Hell Does GWB Got To Do With !!!!! ??...
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He was stupid enough to overthrow the brutal dictator that was the only thing keeping Sunnis and Shiites from each other’s throats. Iraq is too primitive to be a democracy. They required brutal force to keep Sunnis and Shiites from killing each other.
| RaMo wrote: |
| Lets him solve the problems that his got on his Own soil like... Blacks killin Blacks, Whites Killin Whites, Blacks Killin White, White Killing Black |
You are much more likely to die of cancer, a heart attack or car accident than by murder in America. The suicide rate is equal to the murder rate here. Since 1990 the murder rate has dropped in half. The vast majority of murders occur only within impoverished inner city areas, which is why the murder rate among blacks and latinos is 5 times higher than among whites.
Muslims cannot live with other sects of Muslims in the same country without murdering each other unless there is a brutal dictatorship to keep it in check. The only solution in Iraq is going to be to divide up the country.
dude muslims are capable but thik skulled ppl arnt man u sound like such a steriotype muslims muslims muslims blacks blacks blacks dude im muslim im white whooa man u wanna talk religion thats rulw 1 do not discrimenat what whites are good and blacks are evil how bout this look at the life of malcom X if u dont get me hears a clue KKK yeh and he was one of the greats when he had retened from hajj man 5 times ppl tryed to assasinate him common u do the math
Malcom X favored using violence (what a surprise for a Muslim) while Martin Luther King championed Ghandi’s approach of non-violent action, or Ahimsa (Hindu and Christian approach). What did Malcom X accomplish? Not much and he is hardly talked about today, while Martin Luther King succeeded in destroying the old Jim Crow laws that prevented blacks from voting in the South. MLK utterly changed the face of politics in America and is a national hero of almost religious proportions to the left. Malcom X is a very minor character in American history, celebrated almost exclusively by blacks who are disaffected and angry.
It is not racists to state the obvious fact that virtually no whites have converted to Islam in America. This is such a pervasive fact that, quite frankly, I don’t believe that you are white. Arab and Persian are not white. I really dig Persian chicks, I think they are extremely beautiful, but they aren’t white.
While you are not racially bigoted, you are religiously bigoted. You are willing to believe any absurd lie about the non-Muslims word as long as it is negative. Because I am highly critical of Islam you are even willing to call me, a strong liberal lefty, racists, even though all racists are conservative right-wingers.
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As to violence in America, let me give you my own personal example. I have never known anyone who was murdered or committed suicide, and I have never met anyone who knew someone who was murdered. However, I have encountered five incidents in my life of people who knew someone who had committed suicide. Unless you live in the poorest parts of an inner city, murder is very rare in America.
It is not racists to state the obvious fact that virtually no whites have converted to Islam in America. This is such a pervasive fact that, quite frankly, I don’t believe that you are white. Arab and Persian are not white. I really dig Persian chicks, I think they are extremely beautiful, but they aren’t white.
While you are not racially bigoted, you are religiously bigoted. You are willing to believe any absurd lie about the non-Muslims word as long as it is negative. Because I am highly critical of Islam you are even willing to call me, a strong liberal lefty, racists, even though all racists are conservative right-wingers.
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As to violence in America, let me give you my own personal example. I have never known anyone who was murdered or committed suicide, and I have never met anyone who knew someone who was murdered. However, I have encountered five incidents in my life of people who knew someone who had committed suicide. Unless you live in the poorest parts of an inner city, murder is very rare in America.
| Vrythramax wrote: | ||
Can you honestly name ANY government in the world that doesn't do the same thing? I thought this thread was about beheadings...not US bashing. |
I said.. US is famous for cheating and stealing... that doesn't mean that this is the only country that does... but this is the country that does the most... and it seems like a hobby for this country...
when somebody says some facts.. don't say it bashing...
| swapnalokam wrote: |
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... but this is the country that does the most... |
Speaking of facts... got any to substantiate that claim? Oh, wait, you don't need facts to back up your claims, do you?
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| when somebody says some facts.. |
...see above.
I don't see Islam as peaceful, my mind has been warped by the liberal anti-Islamic trash we're fed in America. The image of Islam is distorted, and although it is supposed to stand for peace, people are using it as an excuse for violence. Most Muslims aren't terrorists, but most terrorists are Muslim... think about that a bit.
As for the war, well, people have their opinions. It would be the complete opposite if we had waited for Saddam to potentially strike us or somewhere else. People would've been ranting about us not going to Iraq. Basically, it's a lose-lose situation.
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As for the war, well, people have their opinions. It would be the complete opposite if we had waited for Saddam to potentially strike us or somewhere else. People would've been ranting about us not going to Iraq. Basically, it's a lose-lose situation.
How is the media liberal in promoting a conservative point of view in this regard? Liberals stand up for Palestinian rights while conservatives support Israel reflexively.
My take on Islam is totally unique as a liberal, most liberals aren’t that religious, or if they are they don’t have an opinion about the Qur’an at all, much less mine. I only get agreement on these views from conservatives, never from liberals.
My take on Islam is totally unique as a liberal, most liberals aren’t that religious, or if they are they don’t have an opinion about the Qur’an at all, much less mine. I only get agreement on these views from conservatives, never from liberals.
| S3nd K3ys wrote: |
| Speaking of facts... got any to substantiate that claim? Oh, wait, you don't need facts to back up your claims, do you? |
If you are an american, I apologize if I disrespected you, sorry for what I said, but this is what I understood, when I read american history and learned american history in high school.
It is the same US which gave all ammunitions to "Laden" to split the USSR, which now hunting for Laden.
It is the same US which gave all ammunitions to Iraq to attack its neighbouring country and now accusing Iraq and saddam for doing so.
It is the same US who attacked Iraq to make it a democratic country, does nothing about Pakistan which is ruled by military and causing disrubance in the area.
French helped US in winning the war against British, after US won the war they ignored French
Congress approved the war on Mexico, when heared about US soldiers got shot from mexico on the border, Later found out that such a firing never happened.
The manhattan city was bought from Red Indians in exchange of some pearls. (giving them some pearls and kicking them out of their place is what I meant by "bought")
these are some facts which is on top of my head to support what I said. as Iam not good at memory, I can't give you a 100 statments now.
All suggestions, comments, questions, corrections are welcome.
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| (what a surprise for a Muslim) |
see what i mean look as i said im muslim borned in australia and proud of it ok look as far as im conserned dude u might not be tryin to say anything wrong consesly but just there wtf sersly man look as a muslim i hold nothing against u i debate u couse u have beliefs that i think are blasfemes lik the quran thing
as for blacks dude what u hold aganst them what there low secioty man wow with malcom common 1st of all his his family was attacked by the kkk and 2nd befor he went hajj he was preaching alaga mohommed who said that only a black man was a muslim and the rest of it on his retern from hajj he was a person who spock on behalf of MOHAMMAD (S.A.W.S) teaching that anyone can become a muslim dude look at his lif on his retern to america from hajj
| swapnalokam wrote: | ||
If you are an american, I apologize if I disrespected you, sorry for what I said, but this is what I understood, when I read american history and learned american history in high school. It is the same US which gave all ammunitions to "Laden" to split the USSR, which now hunting for Laden. It is the same US which gave all ammunitions to Iraq to attack its neighbouring country and now accusing Iraq and saddam for doing so. It is the same US who attacked Iraq to make it a democratic country, does nothing about Pakistan which is ruled by military and causing disrubance in the area. French helped US in winning the war against British, after US won the war they ignored French Congress approved the war on Mexico, when heared about US soldiers got shot from mexico on the border, Later found out that such a firing never happened. The manhattan city was bought from Red Indians in exchange of some pearls. (giving them some pearls and kicking them out of their place is what I meant by "bought") these are some facts which is on top of my head to support what I said. as Iam not good at memory, I can't give you a 100 statments now. All suggestions, comments, questions, corrections are welcome. |
Lol, Nice man i can't stop laughing. Now Mike that's what you call DEMONIC
| death_dealer wrote: |
| blasfemes lik the quran thing |
If you can provide compelling evidence that the entity which Mohammed heard was an angel and not a demon, then I will adopted Islam as one of my faiths. But you can't even address the question.
Locutions (voices from unseen entities) do not just come from angels. They can come from sinister entities as well. It is very possible to provide evidence in this regard. For example, the British tried everything to convict St. Joan of witchcraft for doing what the archangel Michael told her to do and say. In the end even though they put her to death, their case was so weak that even the *British* people were convinced that she was truly hearing the voice an archangel. Now that is really something. The evidence was that overwhelming.
So this is not a hard thing to do, but you haven’t even taken the first step, you can’t even address the issue.
| death_dealer wrote: |
| as for blacks dude what u hold aganst them what there low secioty |
| death_dealer wrote: |
| man wow with malcom common 1st of all his his family was attacked by the kkk and 2nd befor he went hajj he was preaching alaga mohommed who said that only a black man was a muslim and the rest of it on his retern from hajj he was a person who spock on behalf of MOHAMMAD (S.A.W.S) teaching that anyone can become a muslim dude look at his lif on his retern to america from hajj |
I referred to how MLK accomplished everything and Malcom X accomplished none of his goals. Maclom X supported violence, because the Qur’an made him feel justified in this respect, and so he accomplished nothing.
| RaMo wrote: |
| Lol, Nice man i can't stop laughing. Now Mike that's what you call DEMONIC |
You are exactly correct and I could go into much greater detail about the crimes committed by the US with regards to America’s support for despotic dictators and the overthrow of democratically elected governments that supported policies that US multination corporations did not like, replacing them with dictatorships as well. In fact, I would go so far as to say that the US military is a satanic institution in my opinion.
You don’t seem to know very much about the opinions of liberals.
Life is nothing that u can create.
AND You cant destroy what you cant create.
So obviously Beheading is wrong.
[Its plain and clear. No political, or geographical or religious concerns.]
AND You cant destroy what you cant create.
So obviously Beheading is wrong.
[Its plain and clear. No political, or geographical or religious concerns.]
actually beheading is not a good thing. because HUMANS are cultured and they shouldnt do these kind of acs because the other person being beheaded did a wrong thing.
BEheading may be right in some cases like that of OSAMA BIN LADEN
he is the reason for so many people deaths.
actually beheading is a cruel act.
BEheading may be right in some cases like that of OSAMA BIN LADEN
he is the reason for so many people deaths.
actually beheading is a cruel act.
hay magastar not defending or anything but dude
like i mean ameriaca went into afganistan and killed around 40 000 ppl and what osama is to be blamed for there blindness its like hay look theres a mosque but wat osama let bomb the place and kill another 200 ppl and yet osama still out there
look man personly i have heard conseresise of that osama is workin with GWbitchy
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| BEheading may be right in some cases like that of OSAMA BIN LADEN |
like i mean ameriaca went into afganistan and killed around 40 000 ppl and what osama is to be blamed for there blindness its like hay look theres a mosque but wat osama let bomb the place and kill another 200 ppl and yet osama still out there
look man personly i have heard conseresise of that osama is workin with GWbitchy
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