I heard rumours that if you have flat feet you can't join the army, or you can't be drafted. Can anyone verify this?
And yes, I do have flat feet.
And yes, I do have flat feet.
flat feet = no army?
it is probably the same situation as with near-sightedness. My friend wanted to join, but couldent: They dont want "handicapps" in the army. 
What does it mean if you have "flat feet"? Your handicapped? 
If they needed personnel enough to draft it really wouldn't matter. The age could go down to 15 and up to 40... They would have legally blind people operating radios...
Beggars can't be choosers pretty much.
Flat feet means your foot has no arch, which in turn can affect your running ability, lead to soreness of the back, and other random things. They have insoles designed for them, but some people like flat feet because then they don't have to join the Military.
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Beggars can't be choosers pretty much.
| dz9c wrote: |
| What does it mean if you have "flat feet"? Your handicapped? |
Flat feet means your foot has no arch, which in turn can affect your running ability, lead to soreness of the back, and other random things. They have insoles designed for them, but some people like flat feet because then they don't have to join the Military.
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| Hobbit wrote: |
| I heard rumours that if you have flat feet you can't join the army, or you can't be drafted. Can anyone verify this?
And yes, I do have flat feet. |
Are you scared to join the military or smth if your going to use that as an excuse you and every other pussy who trys to use that shoudl gtfo of america if your not willing to fight for your country you should leave..
sorry if you think i'm 'flaming' him but it seems like he is scared to fight for his own country and that = pathetic
Calm down. He is only asking what we thought. They could still have him do something if really needed. So you can't really get out of the military.
| teh_razz wrote: | ||
Are you scared to join the military or smth if your going to use that as an excuse you and every other pussy who trys to use that shoudl gtfo of america if your not willing to fight for your country you should leave.. sorry if you think i'm 'flaming' him but it seems like he is scared to fight for his own country and that = pathetic |
Omg, it was just a question. I would fight for my country, you don't even know me so shut it. Drafts are stupid though.
ANYWAYS! I noticed I have flat feet this week when I bought some old school vans, they're 'old school' and the soles are kinda cheap and don't have an arch. With normal shoes I wouldn't notice because they have comfy soles.
it used to be the case in the Army that if you had flat feet it was believed that you could not endure a forced march, but with the technology of footwear the way it is now most problems like that can be easily overcome.
Well they better give me some sweet boots then. 
It's true, flat feet is a very serious handicap in the army because they run and walk a lot and with flat feet you can't do that too well, it's just a precaution to prevent any soldier from being at a disadvantage.
| bdoneck wrote: |
| It's true, flat feet is a very serious handicap in the army because they run and walk a lot and with flat feet you can't do that too well, it's just a precaution to prevent any soldier from being at a disadvantage. |
or a potentially serious liability. When I was in the service they didn't allow it (flat feet), but with so many things changing in the service(s) now, and like I said the state of currently available technology, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if it wasn't a factor anymore. They have people in active service now with only one limb...granted they are not combat support troops, but there was a time not very long ago when thier services wouldn't even be considered. I am not saying they are allowing people with those handicaps to enlist, thier condition(s) must be service related, but they are no longer forced into a medical discharge.
I heard this as well, but I have flat feet and I don't see how that is a handicap. When I was in high school I was one of the fastest in my cross country and track team. I also ran 2 marathons in high school and got one of the best times from my age group.
| teh_razz wrote: | ||
Are you scared to join the military or smth if your going to use that as an excuse you and every other pussy who trys to use that shoudl gtfo of america if your not willing to fight for your country you should leave.. sorry if you think i'm 'flaming' him but it seems like he is scared to fight for his own country and that = pathetic |
Originally, I would have interpreted his post as him being worried he wouldn't be able to join because of his flat feet.
| blackheart wrote: | ||||
Originally, I would have interpreted his post as him being worried he wouldn't be able to join because of his flat feet. |
Precisely.
He showed his disappointment in not being able to join in the first post
Hm....
I'm from Korea. In my country all man have to serve in army for 2 years or more.
When a man is 20 years old, he has to take medical tests for serving in army. There are some reasons that a man can't serve in army.
one of them is flat feet.
I'm not sur why..
I was just told that it's very difficult to walk long time with flat feet.
But, in army soldiers often have to walk long time...
Actually, many men try to avoid to serve in army.
Because it is very difficult. and salary for soldiers is very very low.
in my experience, when i served in army at first, I just got 5 dollar a month.
So.. many man is finding out the way to avoid army... sometimes...
they did illegal something ...
I'm from Korea. In my country all man have to serve in army for 2 years or more.
When a man is 20 years old, he has to take medical tests for serving in army. There are some reasons that a man can't serve in army.
one of them is flat feet.
I'm not sur why..
I was just told that it's very difficult to walk long time with flat feet.
But, in army soldiers often have to walk long time...
Actually, many men try to avoid to serve in army.
Because it is very difficult. and salary for soldiers is very very low.
in my experience, when i served in army at first, I just got 5 dollar a month.
So.. many man is finding out the way to avoid army... sometimes...
they did illegal something ...
| blackheart wrote: |
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Originally, I would have interpreted his post as him being worried he wouldn't be able to join because of his flat feet. |
That is exactly how I understood the question. For the record for anyone interested...it is not shameful or cowardly to be afraid to die for any cause...right, wrong, God or country. It is a natural instinct of survival to want to live, and only through training can it really be overcome to any real effective degree, and even then there are certain limitations...would anyone here throw themselves into a burning building just because it was the "Patriotic" thing to do?
(Nice to see you back blackheart
)| Vrythramax wrote: |
| would anyone here throw themselves into a burning building just because it was the "Patriotic" thing to do? |
I would if I knew I wouldn't ruin my clothes.
Don't get me started about how I disapprove of drafts. (I have a ton of bookmarks of Anti-Draft websites on this computer). I'm still 16 (turning 17 this year, omg) and it's supposidly required by law for you to register for the "Selective Service", or well known as a draft. Supposidly in my state if you don't register your drivers license isn't valid. Sucks. Dunno what I'm gonna do to try to avoid signing up, but more than likely I'll have to. The last draft was in the Vietnam War when my dad was growing up, so I have no clue. Desprite times call for desprite measures, and I hope it doesn't come to that with the "Conflict" in Iraq.
I heard somewhere that you can try to apply for a non-combatant position in the Army, instead of being on the front line, you do other things behind the scenes with computer work and such. Don't quote me on that. I also heard that you cannot bring anything with you to boot camp, not even a pen to write letters with.
My uncle was in Vietnam and he got shot in the leg, he's sorta crazy. I'm afraid of what I might turn out like if I go in a war.
I don't think that I should die for oil (just look at our economy, it's going to turn out really crappy when we get really short on oil, it's going to affect prices on EVERYTHING), or for even dying in a war that I don't think we've should have gotten into. I dispise Bush a lot (only 2 more years until he's out of Office, thank goodness) and will be glad to hear that he's not going to run ever again, since this is his second term. I'm hoping that someone would shoot him or even kill him (it's been this trend ever since Abraham Lincoln, any president starting from him who's elected in a year that ends in a 0 either gets shot at or killed).
I know that I'm sorta flaming our government about this and sorta losing track of the entire topic, but since the Draft was mentioned, I needed to tell my opinion on it. I'm sorry for all of the above, but it's just my personal opinion.
I heard that they take most everybody, unless if they're really disabled and are unable to serve.
I am thankful for the people who are over there already. I have nothing against them. I'm just against the point of the war.
- Mike.
I heard somewhere that you can try to apply for a non-combatant position in the Army, instead of being on the front line, you do other things behind the scenes with computer work and such. Don't quote me on that. I also heard that you cannot bring anything with you to boot camp, not even a pen to write letters with.
My uncle was in Vietnam and he got shot in the leg, he's sorta crazy. I'm afraid of what I might turn out like if I go in a war.
I don't think that I should die for oil (just look at our economy, it's going to turn out really crappy when we get really short on oil, it's going to affect prices on EVERYTHING), or for even dying in a war that I don't think we've should have gotten into. I dispise Bush a lot (only 2 more years until he's out of Office, thank goodness) and will be glad to hear that he's not going to run ever again, since this is his second term. I'm hoping that someone would shoot him or even kill him (it's been this trend ever since Abraham Lincoln, any president starting from him who's elected in a year that ends in a 0 either gets shot at or killed).
I know that I'm sorta flaming our government about this and sorta losing track of the entire topic, but since the Draft was mentioned, I needed to tell my opinion on it. I'm sorry for all of the above, but it's just my personal opinion.
I heard that they take most everybody, unless if they're really disabled and are unable to serve.
I am thankful for the people who are over there already. I have nothing against them. I'm just against the point of the war.
- Mike.
there seems to be alot of restricitions on the military standards. They are pretty picky about people joining. But when or if there is ever a draft, they changed their minds alot. You see everyone getting drafted for any kind of job when their desperate.
In the Army you can apply for jobs like being a Dentist (you have to have a prior degree though and it just greatly reduces your chances of being deployed) or a Veteranrian (again, prior degree and have to go officer for each) or X-ray Tech. Pretty much the only ones non-deployable are Officers, and you need to have a prior 4-year degree in any field to go officer... But really who wants to be a desk jockey?
your MOS in the service is determined by questionaires, apptitude testing, and overall performance during basic training. So if you have the skills to become, say a Doctor...they will train you, a prior degree isn't really needed...but it would sure help convince them that you are right for that position. The military is notorious for using personel as tools...and they are not bad at utilizing thier tools to maximum advantage and benefit....for them.
| Vrythramax wrote: | ||
That is exactly how I understood the question. For the record for anyone interested...it is not shameful or cowardly to be afraid to die for any cause...right, wrong, God or country. It is a natural instinct of survival to want to live, and only through training can it really be overcome to any real effective degree, and even then there are certain limitations...would anyone here throw themselves into a burning building just because it was the "Patriotic" thing to do? (Nice to see you back blackheart ) |
Nice to be back, guess I was kind-of off for a bit.
And I do have to agree there is no shame in being afraid. To the same extent I don't believe anyone should be made to, or made to feel, that they have to enlist. It is their life, and in alot of cases the choice not to go is based on the idividuals non-support of the war even happening.
| teh_razz wrote: | ||
Are you scared to join the military or smth if your going to use that as an excuse you and every other pussy who trys to use that shoudl gtfo of america if your not willing to fight for your country you should leave.. sorry if you think i'm 'flaming' him but it seems like he is scared to fight for his own country and that = pathetic |
Gosh that is so harsh of you...i asked the same question because i wanted to join the army and i thought mi flat feet would keep me from doin it...dont be so hard on him
| teh_razz wrote: | ||
Are you scared to join the military or smth if your going to use that as an excuse you and every other pussy who trys to use that shoudl gtfo of america if your not willing to fight for your country you should leave.. sorry if you think i'm 'flaming' him but it seems like he is scared to fight for his own country and that = pathetic |
Umm since I'm not a "pussy" I'll even admit to you that I am not "too scared" to join the military but I sure as hell wouldn't do it. I'm glad the government stopped prosecuting people who don't register for the draft in the 1980s, because I'm 18 and unregistered.
Some people still have morals. We don't want to blindly follow the government "for our country" because we know it's not "for our country". If you disagree, that's fine, but I don't think you should call someone who is anti-war "pathetic", "pussy", etc. (Not that the OP was necessarily). It shows just how ignorant the government has made this country (like the Iraq war is some "great" cause and we need to be there)
I'll stop being off-topic now. Sorry but that post bothered me.
You could probably get a waiver. Or join the Navy. Hells yeah Navy.
| AdamantMonk wrote: |
| Pretty much the only ones non-deployable are Officers, |
What the heck makes you think officers don't get deployed? The most recent doctrine on the subject is that everyone is deployable, and should be deployed sooner or later.
As for flat feet, no branch of the military likes to take in people with the condition. You might get a waiver or you might hide it, but people who have it often develop leg problems during physical conditioning. I knew one person in basic who managed to shatter his shins by hiding a flat foot condition, then running as best as he could on it. Last I heard, he was still in med hold waiting to see if he would heal or be discharged.
Go ahead and sign up if you want to. They'll probably notice at the MEPS station, and tell you that you can't join without a waiver, then you'll have to do paperwork, and perhaps you'll get it.
If you do join while having a foot or leg condition, don't let the instructors at basic push you into running through pain: the pain will only get worse until you actually break something, and they really do have to let you stop if you have a legitimate medical problem.
| teh_razz wrote: | ||
Are you scared to join the military or smth if your going to use that as an excuse you and every other pussy who trys to use that shoudl gtfo of america if your not willing to fight for your country you should leave.. sorry if you think i'm 'flaming' him but it seems like he is scared to fight for his own country and that = pathetic |
pfff, he was just asking a question.
Yeah, I don't think they can discriminate on that, not that they don't, but I think in the past that was something that could keep you out.
flat feet can't join the army that's sad to hear.my cousin want to join the army someday I hope he doest not have flat feet.
Yeah my brother wanted to join the navy reserve but they told him he couldn't because he has flat feet.
Here in Israel you can definitely join the army if you have flat feet. It won't be elite forces, but you can still fight.
On the other hand, if you're really suffering from it and you can't walk for more than few hours, then they give you some technical job at best, or some office job at worst.
On the other hand, if you're really suffering from it and you can't walk for more than few hours, then they give you some technical job at best, or some office job at worst.
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