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Yantaal
http://killsometime.com/Video/video.asp?ID=497

this is one reason i strongly think religion is a bad thing.

This woman is basically a natzi. HOw can this be allowed?

This isnt freedom of speech, this is absolutley obsurd. This woman to be put down
a_dubDesign
Yantaal wrote:
http://killsometime.com/Video/video.asp?ID=497

this is one reason i strongly think religion is a bad thing.

This woman is basically a natzi. HOw can this be allowed?

This isnt freedom of speech, this is absolutley obsurd. This woman to be put down

I couldn't even make it through the first 1st minute of her talking.

These types of people are the ones that seriously make me want to leave christanity, because people see this crap on the tv, or experience it first hand, and think thats what God is about. Theres a motorcyle gang(?) of who I believe are all veterans that go to funerals and circle them with thier bikes to keep these people out. Thats what God is about.

I'm gonna go search for a good article about them a link up here so you can actually know what I'm talking about.

Ok, a quick google search turned up a bunch of results. This one is my favorite out of the top 4 or 5 results. I have to admit, I have tears in my eyes right now after watching that video and then reading these, thinking these guys get it and its such a beautiful thing. It looks like they are actually at the funreal in the video, all the flags and bikes shown from 26 seconds to 32 seconds.
mike1reynolds
I was totally clinching my stomach, naturally expecting the protestors to be liberals, but totally stund at how obnoxious they were. But then it turned out that they were fundi's, no wonder! Fanatic liberals are obnoxious, but they just can't even begin to compete with fanatic conservatives in savage sub-humanness.
Yantaal
Man those motorcyclists are what its about, i dont care for reliion, but that isnt nsesarily a religion thing, thats nothing more than respect. And its about bloody time something like that happened.

I think this might even be a redeeming feaure for americans
a_dubDesign
Yantaal wrote:

I think this might even be a redeeming feaure for americans

oh totally.

Its so sad that its a church group they are having to keep out. Makes me wonder how they got that far away from Jesus.
livilou
a_dubDesign wrote:
Yantaal wrote:

I think this might even be a redeeming feaure for americans

oh totally.

Its so sad that its a church group they are having to keep out. Makes me wonder how they got that far away from Jesus.


I agree completely. That church group has no compassion, no love, which is what Jesus is all about. Personal opinion aside, I would have prayed for those family members and friends, that they would be comforted.

To all that was offended by that women, I apologize. She doesn't speak for the whole Christian community. Definitely not for me.

You can force someone to believe in Jesus. You can't ram your thoughts and opinions down someone throat and expect them to willingly accept it. That's what she was trying to do. It's wrong!

I try my best to not judge people, because I feel it's wrong, but she's the closest I've come to doing just that.

Quote:
1John 4:20
If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
swapnalokam
isn't she an extremist... no matter what relegion... extremist cause most of the problems..
a_dubDesign
way to be all over that apology livilou, I can't believe I missed it Smile

swapnalokam wrote:
isn't she an extremist... no matter what relegion... extremist cause most of the problems..

Agreed. I just wish that normal people doing amazing things with Christ would be given some time in the news.
simpleHalakhah
If we would recall and teach that religious - and other ideological (Marxist, Liberal, Conservative, etc.) - language/terms/images (beliefs) are metaphors of what we experience and thus value, and that human experience is multi-faceted, there would be no room for fanaticism.
Soulfire
So you choose to take one case, and label all religion as bad? This is like someone saying "Oh, a Muslim is a terrorists. All Muslims must be terrorists, they are bad." Certainly some people take this to the extreme.
Marston
That movie made me sick. If I had seen those people protesting, I would've tried to beat all of them up.

Seriously, where do they get the idea to do something so terrible?
a_dubDesign
Marston wrote:
Seriously, where do they get the idea to do something so terrible?

Fred Phelps. He's also the one who gave the world GodHatesFags.com, not that we really wanted it.

I would like to add that the Phelps gospel is incredibly far from the Gospel of Jesus. I also want you all to know that I hesitated to post those links out of fear that someone might actually go there and think thats what Jesus was about. But then I figured all it takes is a quick trip to google to find that stuff out.

Fred Phelps message is closer to that of the Pharisees, not that of Christ, and in no way shape or form does Phelps speak for me or the majority of christians.

*edited to fix a link
kwok
Yantaal wrote:
http://killsometime.com/Video/video.asp?ID=497

this is one reason i strongly think religion is a bad thing.

This woman is basically a natzi. HOw can this be allowed?

This isnt freedom of speech, this is absolutley obsurd. This woman to be put down
RaMo
Yang Xiong (Yang Hsiung) was a prolific yet reclusive court poet whose writings and tragic life spanned the collapse of the Former Han dynasty (202 BCE-9 CE) and the brief and catastrophic usurpation of the throne by the Imperial Regent Wang Mang (9-23 CE). He is best known for his assertion that human nature originally is neither good (as argued by Mencius) nor depraved (as argued by Xunzi) but rather comes into existence as a mixture of both. Yang Xiong’s chief philosophical writings - an abstruse book of divination known as the Tai xuan (The Great Dark Mystery) and his Fa yan (Words to Live By), a collection of aphorisms and dialogues on a variety of historical and philosophical topics - are little known even among Chinese scholars. These works combine a Daoist concern for cosmology, but may be best described as a product of the intellectual and spiritual syncretism characteristic of the Han dynasty (202 BCE-220 CE). As a social critic and classical scholar, he is considered to be the chief representative of the Old Text School (guxue) of Confucianism. Although some think he was one of the most important writers of the late Former Han, he had little influence during his own time and was vilified for his association with the usurper Wang Mang. Consequently, his works have largely been left out of the Confucian canon.

Yang Xiong was born in 53 BCE in the western city of Chengdu in the province of Shu. His biography in the Qian Han Shu (History of the Former Han) remarks that Yang Xiong was fond of learning, was unconcerned with wealth, office, and reputation, and suffered from a speech impediment and consequently spoke little. As a youth he probably was a student of Zhuang Zun, a reclusive marketplace fortune teller who refused to take office, opting instead to use divination and fortune-telling as a means to encourage virtue among the common people. Before coming to the capital he gained renown for his poetic writings, in particular for his fu, a poetic genre associated with an earlier native of Shu, Sima Xiangru (179-117 BCE). Yang Xiong’s reputation as a poet eventually reached the capital of Chang’an, and around 20 BCE he was summoned to the court of Emperor Cheng. Between the years 14-10 BCE, Yang Xiong submitted several poetic pieces commemorating imperial sacrifices and hunts, and finally in 10 BCE he was appointed to the humble office of “Gentleman in Attendance” and “Servitor at the Yellow Gate,” where he would remain until his final days. While not much is known of Yang Xiong’s activities as a lowly official at the Han court, it appears that, as far back as 9 BCE, Emperor Cheng issued a decree excusing him from the direct official service, while maintaining an official title, salary, and access to the imperial library for him.

Shortly after his appointment, Yang Xiong became disillusioned with the rectifying power of his poetry and stopped writing it for the court. Yang Xiong’s decision appears to have coincided with the death of his son, a tragedy which left him despondent and financially impoverished. Over the next two decades he produced his two works on philology: Cang Jie xun zuan (Annotations to the Cang Jie), a compilation of annotations to the Qin dynasty’s official imperial dictionary, and Fang yan (Dialects), a collection of regional expressions. During this period, he also produced his Tai xuan (The Great Dark Mystery), which he completed around 2 BCE, and Fa yan (Words to Live By), which he completed in 9 CE – right about the time that the Imperial Regent Wang Mang usurped the throne and established the brief Xin dynasty (9-23 CE).

Yang Xiong’s life and writings were overshadowed by the rise and fall of the notorious Wang Mang (45 BCE-23 CE). A nephew of the wife of Emperor Yuan (who reigned 48-32 BCE), Wang Mang rose to the rank of Imperial Regent. In 9 CE, through a combination of court intrigue, political machinations, manipulation of popular superstitions, and opportunity, he seized the throne from the founding House of Liu and declared himself the rightful possessor of the Mandate of Heaven. His short-lived Xin dynasty marks the dividing line between the Former or Western Han (202 BCE-9 CE) and the Later or Eastern Han (25-220 CE) and, due to widespread rebellion and a series of natural catastrophes, is widely considered one of the most calamitous periods in Chinese history.

While little is known of Yang Xiong’s activities during his final years, his biography notes that, shortly after Wang Mang’s usurpation Yang Xiong attempted suicide when he was named in a scandal involving one of his former students. He survived the attempt. When Wang Mang heard of it, he ordered all charges against Yang Xiong dropped, proclaiming that the poet had never been involved in any political affairs at court. His final work, Ju qin mei xin, appears to have been a controversial memorial presented to Wang Mang around 14 CE; its title is translated by Knechtges as Denigrating Qin and Praising Xin. Yang Xiong died four years later at the age of 71.

WHAT THE POINT OF THIS???
a_dubDesign
RaMo wrote:

WHAT THE POINT OF THIS???

a more germane question would be whats the point of putting all of that in here?
totax
The point is That (we) Christian's think that when we use our time on God...

We invest in a Life forever!

God Bless!
a_dubDesign
totax wrote:
The point is That (we) Christian's think that when we use our time on God...

We invest in a Life forever!

God Bless!

you got that from the Yang Xiong spam post? Or am I reading your response wrong?
a_dubDesign
Looks like Michigan Government is finally stepping in to put an end to this crap. Article Here.

This bill needs to be a national one, not just michigan.
livilou
a_dubDesign wrote:
Looks like Michigan Government is finally stepping in to put an end to this crap. Article Here.

This bill needs to be a national one, not just michigan.


Absolutely. Maybe we should contact our congressmen and representives and suggest it. I definitely will.
a_dubDesign
livilou wrote:

Absolutely. Maybe we should contact our congressmen and representives and suggest it. I definitely will.

good call. Luckily my residency is still currently in Michigan, despite my living in Florida. I sent an email, and would send an actual letter, but the bill is getting to her desk this week, my letter wouldn't get there till next week or later.
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