Discussion about this announcement.
Directory submissions opened
What are the twelve catagories?
Or do we even need to specify a catagory?
[edit]Now the catagories are easy to find. My bad for replying so soon![/edit]
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Or do we even need to specify a catagory?
[edit]Now the catagories are easy to find. My bad for replying so soon![/edit]
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Ha what a way to earn frih$ lol...I will submit mine when it gets accepted in the near future
Wouldn't it be more logical to finish the new design (assuming that one will ever get finished 
) before creating new sections?
) before creating new sections?it isn't working for my domain 
It is saying domain is invailed. 
It is saying domain is invailed. | Blaster wrote: |
| it isn't working for my domain It is saying domain is invailed. |
| error wrote: |
| This domain is not valid. Please choose another one. |
I know how you feel...
What's up with that?
Has anyone succesfully registered? What domain did you use?
I told bondings about it. I think something is wrong. So we must wait....
It should be fixed now. I apparantly didn't upload the latest version of the template causing the domain variable not to be recognized and hence the request rejected because the domain was to short/empty. My apologies for this, it is getting very late for me.
Edit, Blaster requested, so it should work fine now.
Edit, Blaster requested, so it should work fine now.
Yea it works now. Thanks for all of that help. I think i may have been the first to sign up
Edit: I was the first to register. I feel happy.
Edit: I was the first to register. I feel happy.
I have requested for one.
Hope to get it soon
Hope to get it soon
I have submitted my request for directory service. I was waitting long for this service.
| nam_siddharth wrote: |
| I have submitted my request for directory service. I was waitting long for this service. |
Hope you like it.
By the way, please do not give us crappy descriptions, I'll be glad to reject them as usual.
Can anyone give me a description of what actually is the service about? 
| exarkun wrote: |
| Can anyone give me a description of what actually is the service about? |
You basically can advertise your webiste that you have hosted on Frihost in this Directory. You pay 50FriH and you get it in the directory. People look at the directory to find sites sometimes and if they looking for your site category they click your link and you have another visitor to your site.
Bondings said for the first month or what ever it is free
@ n0obie you are not going to be rejecting my sumission anytime soon.
Now to wait untill bondings gets the sites and starts listing them.
@ n0obie you are not going to be rejecting my sumission anytime soon.
Now to wait untill bondings gets the sites and starts listing them.
| Blaster wrote: |
| @ n0obie you are not going to be rejecting my sumission anytime soon.
Now to wait untill bondings gets the sites and starts listing them. |
I'll be starting the coding for the actual directory pretty soon. I'll provide more details about it once it's ready.
The requests for listing will be free till the end of the month or a bit longer. You only need to request once.
| Bondings wrote: | ||
I'll be starting the coding for the actual directory pretty soon. I'll provide more details about it once it's ready. The requests for listing will be free till the end of the month or a bit longer. You only need to request once. |
Does this mean I wont be losing 50 Frih$?
You won't use it as long as you have subscribed during this month.
My website is added on frihost directory. Thanks frihost. Thanks n0obie4life. Nice...
i hope it's search engine bot friendly and have good pagerank soon. so we can get nice google page rank too shared by the directory.
good luck with the new project .
i hope it's search engine bot friendly and have good pagerank soon. so we can get nice google page rank too shared by the directory.
good luck with the new project
.| n0obie4life wrote: |
| You won't use it as long as you have subscribed during this month. |
Oh Thank you..
By the way, how can a submission like this improve our pagerank or something
It is NOT a direct link. and google only scans for direct links.
If there is a redirect like in here, your pagerank will NOT improve
You will of course get more visitors through the links but that is about it
When I'll actually see my site in the directory?
I am seeing mine right now..
I applied around 12 hours ago.
Mine is visible for a few hours now
I applied around 12 hours ago.
Mine is visible for a few hours now
I've recieved the PM few hours ago..
I am in the directory list 
OH no, one has to give a description that pleases n4l too, as if getting a good description wasnt going to be enough 
@godamn64 & scorpio
You page ranking will benifit a bit, or i should say visitors will increase for sure. And since frihost has a PR of just 5/10, so dont expect your PR to gor through the roof. Also content does matter
@Bondings why only one subbmission per account, why not more. I have a forum and blog so why not allow more subbmissions. Especially since you are charging FRIH$s 50 as a one time submission fee.
Also what if I want to change my domain name or say completely change the listing entry.
| n0obie4life wrote: |
| By the way, please do not give us crappy descriptions, I'll be glad to reject them as usual. |
@godamn64 & scorpio
You page ranking will benifit a bit, or i should say visitors will increase for sure. And since frihost has a PR of just 5/10, so dont expect your PR to gor through the roof. Also content does matter
@Bondings why only one subbmission per account, why not more. I have a forum and blog so why not allow more subbmissions. Especially since you are charging FRIH$s 50 as a one time submission fee.
Also what if I want to change my domain name or say completely change the listing entry.
Only 50 frih? 
| Helios wrote: |
| Only 50 frih? |
I do thinks too less, since now one can get as much as 4 FRIH$s per post compared to what we used to get a measy 2 or if the post was ultra long then 3 almost a year ago.
So the bottom line is, at the current rate of earnings FRIH$ 50 is waaaaaaaaaay tooooo less. Make it atleast FRIH$ 100/submission, thats because i want multiple submissions enabled
200 Frih at least!
@babumuchhala, multiple submissions (maybe something like 3) are something I will certainly think about. However it creates the problem of having to check for duplicate domains/websites and can create unhealthy competition for other websites.
@godam64, it's not meant to be search engine friendly. It wouldn't be a good idea to link to hundreds of websites on the same ip-range (c-class), certainly with quite a few sites linking back to Frihost. And google is becoming very strict on this. A link from a banned website wouldn't help you either. Also, the clicks are counted and there is no way to do that with a direct link.
Even if you won't get any pagerank, search engines will crawl and count the link. Also, the url will be displayed on the page, and some search engines (msn) count that one as a normal link.
@Helios, I currently only finished a small part of the index page, the rest should follow soon.
@godam64, it's not meant to be search engine friendly. It wouldn't be a good idea to link to hundreds of websites on the same ip-range (c-class), certainly with quite a few sites linking back to Frihost. And google is becoming very strict on this. A link from a banned website wouldn't help you either. Also, the clicks are counted and there is no way to do that with a direct link.
Even if you won't get any pagerank, search engines will crawl and count the link. Also, the url will be displayed on the page, and some search engines (msn) count that one as a normal link.
@Helios, I currently only finished a small part of the index page, the rest should follow soon.
And mine is first
It is looking a lot better now that you actually have sites there.
It is looking a lot better now that you actually have sites there.
Just to spoil things - all of the links have the nofollow rel attribute. Don't expect a Google page rank increase from the FriHost directory.
Bit of a jip...
Bit of a jip...
My website is under Top 10 (7th position). and mine is first.
I have a questiong about the top10 how is that going to work. Is it just going to stay like that or go by most page hits?
I have a questiong about the top10 how is that going to work. Is it just going to stay like that or go by most page hits?
| Marston wrote: |
| Just to spoil things - all of the links have the nofollow rel attribute. Don't expect a Google page rank increase from the FriHost directory. |
I might remove that attribute, but the links aren't direct so you won't get any pagerank. Google doesn't like links to websites on the same ip-address, certainly not if there are a lot of them. I don't want to risk being banned.
Don't do it if you might get banned Bondings..
A few question remain Unanswered:
I dont mind a "follow" or "no follow", as long as it keeps getting us visitors I am happy with it. I suppose the inflow of traffic will automatically result in increased PRs
- What about edditing?
I already want to do a very tiny edit in my forums description
- How does the Top 10 Work currently?
Have the current top 10 been put up by you or is it based on the actual hist they have recieved
- What about the pricing?
Most of us here feel the prices have been kept too low
I dont mind a "follow" or "no follow", as long as it keeps getting us visitors I am happy with it. I suppose the inflow of traffic will automatically result in increased PRs
| Quote: |
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I dont mind a "follow" or "no follow", as long as it keeps getting us visitors I am happy with it. I suppose the inflow of traffic will automatically result in increased PRs |
Thats what I want.
But the procedure to keep it in the top 10 is what i want to know.
| babumuchhala wrote: |
| What about edditing?
I already want to do a very tiny edit in my forums description |
Currently, you can PM a moderator/admin who manages accounts (me, Gurdit, mathiaus, morp, bondings, and i think i forgot some) and we'll change it as accordingly.[/quote]
| babumuchhala wrote: |
| What about the pricing?
Most of us here feel the prices have been kept too low
|
They will be increased if we deem fit
| scorpio wrote: | ||
Thats what I want. But the procedure to keep it in the top 10 is what i want to know. |
The directory is currently being built. You'll get more details when it's finished. It will be based on a 'bidding' system.
| n0obie4life wrote: |
| Currently, you can PM a moderator/admin who manages accounts (me, Gurdit, mathiaus, morp, bondings, and i think i forgot some) and we'll change it as accordingly. |
You forgot a lot of them tbh. Also, you aren't able to change it at the moment, unless while handling the request. People who want to change their descriptions will have to wait a bit. Also, I don't think one word is enough to justify a change.
Hmm... bondings instead of sheding light you put more questions in our mind
What kind of bidding??? The more i pay the higher i go
Usually top 10 means the top 10 sites accessed via the directory or so, but then....
Well that change in one word cand make my forums sound a lot more international
What kind of bidding??? The more i pay the higher i go
Usually top 10 means the top 10 sites accessed via the directory or so, but then....
| Quote: |
| Also, I don't think one word is enough to justify a change. |
| babumuchhala wrote: |
|
I am wondering the same thing. Can someone answer this?
| Blaster wrote: | ||
I am wondering the same thing. Can someone answer this? |
Its based on a kind of links-per-click system. The more times your site is accessed on the Directory page the higher the chance of your site being in the Top Ten. Due to the fact that its not yet finished is why there is no formal information on it.
ok that is pretty cool I like it. But can't people just keep clicking on it and make it up into a higher rank?
| Blaster wrote: |
| ok that is pretty cool I like it. But can't people just keep clicking on it and make it up into a higher rank? |
No, clicks do not and won't change your listing. Sorry for the confusion. It would be really easy to get your website to the top 10 that way. The clicks are an indication of how many visits you got from the directory.
The websites will be ranked by a bidding process. You will be able to bid frih$ for a higher placement every month. You will get more details about this when the first version of the directory is finished.
Thanks for clearing that up. Sounds pretty cool. Good thing i have a lot of frih
| Blaster wrote: |
| Thanks for clearing that up. Sounds pretty cool. Good thing i have a lot of frih |
But if this bidding system, gets too hot we might loose it quite fast
Yea good point. Not if you post a lot. That would be a good idea to get more people to post too.
| Blaster wrote: |
| Yea good point. Not if you post a lot. That would be a good idea to get more people to post too. |
Note that there is a difference between usual posts and quality posts Blaster. Frihost would like most of the latter although we realise that both are needed.
Ahh.. finally! It is here.
| wumingsden wrote: | ||
Note that there is a difference between usual posts and quality posts Blaster. Frihost would like most of the latter although we realise that both are needed. |
Of course that is right.
But the best way to earn money here and the fastest is by means of accepting ads or by offering and doing quality services.
Take dz9c as an xample .
So that is the fastest way to riches here.
Or by being a moderator and modifying your frih buck
wuming is not one of them that would modify his frih bucks.
Also you would be smart to enter contest and save frih bucks. Not spend them on silly things.
Also you would be smart to enter contest and save frih bucks. Not spend them on silly things.
| scorpio wrote: |
| Or by being a moderator and modifying your frih buck |
)Yes they do. n0obie said it in 1 post. I forget the post though
Frih have two uses now:
Paying for Sigs/Sig Advertisements
and
Advertising your site
Thanks for adding my site to the directory so quickly!
Paying for Sigs/Sig Advertisements
and
Advertising your site
Thanks for adding my site to the directory so quickly!
| babumuchhala wrote: | ||
) |
Moderators do have the ability to edit the Frih$ amount although I'm not one to abuse it, and nor do I think anyone else would be.
| Bondings wrote: | ||
No, clicks do not and won't change your listing. Sorry for the confusion. It would be really easy to get your website to the top 10 that way. The clicks are an indication of how many visits you got from the directory. The websites will be ranked by a bidding process. You will be able to bid frih$ for a higher placement every month. You will get more details about this when the first version of the directory is finished. |
.| heady233 wrote: |
| Bondings, is that a new signature, Because Google Isn't Big Enough, I like it . |
I changed it like a month ago (or just a few weeks) from the one in your signature to this one, so you can call it "relatively" new.
| Bondings wrote: | ||
I changed it like a month ago (or just a few weeks) from the one in your signature to this one, so you can call it "relatively" new. |
| babumuchhala wrote: | ||
) |
We do. But no one has abused it.
I don't know why, but people seem to link me with cash mod abusing, somehow.
I earnt all my FRIH$ legitly through donations by Frihost members, my phpBB services and other stuff.
I can belive that you dont' n0obie. But the point of bondings charging frih is to get you to post. ( That is what i belive at least) So it is all fair to mods. I know that they never use that button.
Can we suggest changes at a later date.
| TeenZine wrote: |
| Can we suggest changes at a later date. |
Yes, you'll be able to request for changes [to your directory entry] later.
Hey Cool!
50FRIH$ Seems a good amount to me.
50FRIH$ Seems a good amount to me.
| n0obie4life wrote: | ||||
We do. But no one has abused it. I don't know why, but people seem to link me with cash mod abusing, somehow. I earnt all my FRIH$ legitly through donations by Frihost members, my phpBB services and other stuff. |
Of course.
We know better than to blame our mods.
All the mods are fair.
Though I did notice a couple of mods havent logged in, like for about a month and the other junior admin has disappeared(not morph)
This is great. Always looking for a way to blow some Fri$. A directory will really give a greater sense of community than before. Thanks for the hard work, I'm going to go submit my site.
Thanks to the directory my site is listed second..
Thats really cool.
Finally the damned googlebot crawled my site.
I am on number 3 on google and 1 on msn and nowhere to be found on yahoo!
Gotta get to number 1 in google
Thats really cool.
Finally the damned googlebot crawled my site.
I am on number 3 on google and 1 on msn and nowhere to be found on yahoo!
Gotta get to number 1 in google
| vlnjodie wrote: |
| This is great. Always looking for a way to blow some Fri$. A directory will really give a greater sense of community than before. Thanks for the hard work, I'm going to go submit my site. |
You'll have more places to blow your FRIH$ at next time
@scorpio, congrats on getting third
| scorpio wrote: | ||||||
Of course. We know better than to blame our mods. All the mods are fair. Though I did notice a couple of mods havent logged in, like for about a month and the other junior admin has disappeared(not morph) |
Note that no-one has "disappeared", although one person is known to be non-active. ALL Mods/Admins have their status hidden most of the time, I'm currently hidden right now and when have you even noticed Bondings online ?
| wumingsden wrote: | ||||||||
Note that no-one has "disappeared", although one person is known to be non-active. ALL Mods/Admins have their status hidden most of the time, I'm currently hidden right now and when have you even noticed Bondings online ? |
I dont mean HIDDEN here.
Of course I know that you, no0bie, bondings are hidden.
I meant that they have not logged in a month or so.
http://www.frihost.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=10
If you look at bockmen he is currently on a breack. So he didn't disapeer. There are people that seem like they dont' post the amount that they should but i am not saying who i am thinkging about *cough*n0obie4life*cough*
If you look at bockmen he is currently on a breack. So he didn't disapeer. There are people that seem like they dont' post the amount that they should but i am not saying who i am thinkging about *cough*n0obie4life*cough*
| Blaster wrote: |
| http://www.frihost.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=10
If you look at bockmen he is currently on a breack. So he didn't disapeer. There are people that seem like they dont' post the amount that they should but i am not saying who i am thinkging about *cough*n0obie4life*cough* |
Currently N4L is less active than usual, but still active. You may think that "There are people that seem like they dont' post the amount that they should" but there is a lot of work to do outside of the public eye as well having our own lives. Also post count doesn't really mean anything, its the quality not quantity.
the CIA will never find the evidence!!!
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You wern't supose to tell people that. Now i have to go beat everyone.
*goes to bid over mathias*
Ok now i am on top again.
*goes to bid over mathias*
Ok now i am on top again.
| Blaster wrote: |
| You wern't supose to tell people that. Now i have to go beat everyone.
*goes to bid over mathias* Ok now i am on top again. |
lol I was wondering why there wasn't anybody talking about it...
I dont' want to lose all my frih off the bat. You weren't supose to let people know about it.
ahhh the CIA is going to come after me ... again!!
So now the bidding process is in place (although the person on top is not the highest bidder ) in the top 12 list for some reason.
A few questions:
) in the top 12 list for some reason.
A few questions:
- What if my bid is not enough to make it to the top 12, will my FRIH$s be refunded ???
I hope so because bidding means you pay only when you are the highest
- When will multiple entries to the directory entries be started.???
Since each subbmission will be screened by a mod, I dont think duplication of websites be anyproblem.
- What if I want to bid more???
Also I think one should be able to see how much one has bid for his site in his account page itself
| wumingsden wrote: | ||
Currently N4L is less active than usual, but still active. You may think that "There are people that seem like they dont' post the amount that they should" but there is a lot of work to do outside of the public eye as well having our own lives. Also post count doesn't really mean anything, its the quality not quantity. |
I'll be really active during the June period, watch out
This means no0bie will be posting lots of spam..
Finally someone can warn the mod himself
Oops! Did I say that audibly!
Finally someone can warn the mod himself
Oops! Did I say that audibly!
Maybe I didn't understand this. But is this some sort of "mechanism" were you can register a new domain?
Might be a stupid question, but I don't really understand it. Thanks for all answers.
Might be a stupid question, but I don't really understand it. Thanks for all answers.
No it is not a domain registration
This directory on frihost is like a telefone directory at home
Like the fone dir has names addresses and fone numbers of people, this directory here has the names and websites of people hosted on frihost
This directory on frihost is like a telefone directory at home
Like the fone dir has names addresses and fone numbers of people, this directory here has the names and websites of people hosted on frihost
and just to add, not everyone one is added by default, but you have to submit your site to the directory, and its not a free entry
| babumuchhala wrote: |
| and just to add, not everyone one is added by default, but you have to submit your site to the directory, and its not a free entry |
Atleast not any more....
I have a question about all this...I have a cuple of differant domains here at Frihost that contain a number of differant websites each...does this drectory submission only apply to my Frihost site or can I submit a site other than that one for listing (still hosted here)?
| Quote: |
| does this drectory submission only apply to my Frihost site or can I submit a site other than that one for listing (still hosted here)? |
Is there a difference between your Frihost site and the other one you have hosted here.
Anyway, if it is hosted here they allow you to submit any site.
But now you have to pay up I guess
I have no site on my Frihost url and my other sites are each differant than the other. Thanks for the info
It doesn't need to be a .frih.net or .frihost.net subdomain. It just needs to be hosted on our servers as it's a directory of Frihost websites.
So if you have a domain hosted by us, then that one is allowed. The only thing I don't like is the "cloaking" ones as that are just hiding the 'real' url instead of replacing it as a real domain.
And it's still free, I haven't yet finished the coding of the directory. (didn't have enough time) As you might see, a lot of things are still missing, like the descriptions of the categories and the 50 frih$ cost. I'll make an announcement when it's finished.
So if you have a domain hosted by us, then that one is allowed. The only thing I don't like is the "cloaking" ones as that are just hiding the 'real' url instead of replacing it as a real domain.
And it's still free, I haven't yet finished the coding of the directory. (didn't have enough time) As you might see, a lot of things are still missing, like the descriptions of the categories and the 50 frih$ cost. I'll make an announcement when it's finished.
Is is just me or are there not a whole lot of sites listed?
thank you Bondings...I'm pretty sure I can swing 50 FRIH$
1 more question if I may...are we allowed multiple submissions for differant sites? (and no, I do not use url masking or forwarding)
1 more question if I may...are we allowed multiple submissions for differant sites? (and no, I do not use url masking or forwarding)
only 53 entries??!! free(ish) directory listing doens't seem too attractive i guess... although I'm not sure if bondings has it set up where it will automatically add a site when it's requested... or if he has to do it manually.
That is pretty good for the people that actually post here. It is still fairly new. Plus the less there is the more likely people will check yours out.
| Donutey wrote: |
| only 53 entries??!! free(ish) directory listing doens't seem too attractive i guess... although I'm not sure if bondings has it set up where it will automatically add a site when it's requested... or if he has to do it manually. |
Auto acceptance is not a possibility at all.
Because of the fact that spam submissions can not be excluded very easily
I am not able to see my site in the directory. My site's url is www.whatsmyipaddress.be
Is it deleted/removed from the directory ?
Also, Can i submit more than one site now ?
Is it deleted/removed from the directory ?
Also, Can i submit more than one site now ?
| manumiglani wrote: |
| I am not able to see my site in the directory. My site's url is www.whatsmyipaddress.be
Is it deleted/removed from the directory ? Also, Can i submit more than one site now ? |
It's in a queue.
| n0obie4life wrote: | ||
It's in a queue. |
But I have seen it in the listings before. How can it be in queue if it is already listed before?
Sorry, my mistake.
I think it's a bug, there should be a second page for the Directory.
I think it's a bug, there should be a second page for the Directory.
I'm sorry for the content-less post,
but I just have to boast the fact that
I succeded in no. 1 ranking
Don't think it will be long til' Blaster finds
out and throw a chump of frih$ there,
but it was fun while it lasted
...and while I still had a chance, for the dir is
so fresh
but I just have to boast the fact that
I succeded in no. 1 ranking
Don't think it will be long til' Blaster finds
out and throw a chump of frih$ there,
but it was fun while it lasted
...and while I still had a chance, for the dir is
so fresh
How is the top 12 in the directory decided?
| Idoru wrote: |
| I'm sorry for the content-less post,
but I just have to boast the fact that I succeded in no. 1 ranking
Don't think it will be long til' Blaster finds out and throw a chump of frih$ there, but it was fun while it lasted
...and while I still had a chance, for the dir is so fresh |
Ok done. I beat you and mathiaus. Wow I am losing a lot of money here. Ahh its all good. I am making it back. Well yea don't expect to beat me unless you are S3nd K3ys bondings or n0obie4life. But i doubt bondings would put his in there being it is on his.
| scorpio wrote: |
| How is the top 12 in the directory decided? |
http://www.frihost.com/forums/account.php
You bid and bid and bid and bid
I never even saw that thing..
EDIT: what process goes into this?
Is the bid money refunded if my bid is unsuccessful?
How many bids can one make?
Who does the money go to?
how will the winner be decided?
where will the winner be posted
how can we see the current leader in bidding?
What is the period of bidding?
Like do the highest bidder of this month remain on constant first spot throughout next month ?
PLease elaborate.
Do you have a FAQ page for the bidding?
if not when will you set one up?
thank you
EDIT: what process goes into this?
Is the bid money refunded if my bid is unsuccessful?
How many bids can one make?
Who does the money go to?
how will the winner be decided?
where will the winner be posted
how can we see the current leader in bidding?
What is the period of bidding?
Like do the highest bidder of this month remain on constant first spot throughout next month ?
PLease elaborate.
Do you have a FAQ page for the bidding?
if not when will you set one up?
thank you
You aren't refunded any money.
The amount you bid, then it will be "stored", and your ranking on the account page will rise. Depending on the amount you paid (look at the fansites one, I paid 10 FRIH$ while mathiaus paid 50 FRIH$, so he get's a higher directory listing than me. But I get a higher listing than those who never paid. http://www.frihost.com/directory/category-3.php - you can see the amount we bid by clicking on "more info").
You can make as many as you want.
No where land. It just disappears.
No such thing.
The current leader is the one right at the top of the listing.
1 month.
No FAQ yet.
The amount you bid, then it will be "stored", and your ranking on the account page will rise. Depending on the amount you paid (look at the fansites one, I paid 10 FRIH$ while mathiaus paid 50 FRIH$, so he get's a higher directory listing than me. But I get a higher listing than those who never paid. http://www.frihost.com/directory/category-3.php - you can see the amount we bid by clicking on "more info").
You can make as many as you want.
No where land. It just disappears.
| Quote: |
| how will the winner be decided?
where will the winner be posted |
No such thing.
The current leader is the one right at the top of the listing.
1 month.
No FAQ yet.
Thanks for that concise answer..
Anyway I made my bid sometime ago..
good thing I have a lot of frih bucks.
Why cant you donate some to people?
Anyway I made my bid sometime ago..
good thing I have a lot of frih bucks.
Why cant you donate some to people?
| scorpio wrote: |
| Thanks for that concise answer..
Anyway I made my bid sometime ago.. |
I'm glad you understood my brief FAQ
. No problem for making it anyway. If you still have any problems, feel free to ask us.
| scorpio wrote: |
| Why cant you donate some to people? |
Sorry scorpio, I didn't quite get this question.
Well, on the Bid System, what you guys are saying that there will be competion even in the directories.
On how much one bids, I feel I should have the freedom to bid any amount i wish right from 0.1 to 10000000000000000000 (if i have that much) and not just 10,20,50 or their multiples
Plus shouldnt I be able to see how much I have bid in the accounts page itself isnt it
On how much one bids, I feel I should have the freedom to bid any amount i wish right from 0.1 to 10000000000000000000 (if i have that much
) and not just 10,20,50 or their multiples
Plus shouldnt I be able to see how much I have bid in the accounts page itself isnt it
You do have the freedom to do so, just keep clicking on the amount you wish to bid (it'll just increase automatically). But please be reminded that the bids reset every month to zero .
Well, I've told Bondings to add that (amount you've bidded). But for now, you need to go to the Directory, go to your listing and click on "[More Info]".
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Well, I've told Bondings to add that (amount you've bidded). But for now, you need to go to the Directory, go to your listing and click on "[More Info]".
| n0obie4life wrote: |
| You do have the freedom to do so, just keep clicking on the amount you wish to bid (it'll just increase automatically). But please be reminded that the bids reset every month to zero . |
Take the current thing in the Bids, I bid 10 FRIH$ but u too & have a rank above me in the top 12 & so if i could make it 11 FRIH$ i would be above your site. Or another thing could be to add a 5 FRIH$ bid
| n0obie4life wrote: |
| Well, I've told Bondings to add that (amount you've bidded). But for now, you need to go to the Directory, go to your listing and click on "[More Info]". |
, but the directory isn't updated instantly so thats the problem :s| n0obie4life wrote: |
| You do have the freedom to do so, just keep clicking on the amount you wish to bid (it'll just increase automatically). But please be reminded that the bids reset every month to zero .
Well, I've told Bondings to add that (amount you've bidded). But for now, you need to go to the Directory, go to your listing and click on "[More Info]". |
if it gets reset to zero, then what site will remain at the top?
Since the fact will be that no one would have paid any money for the new month, whose site will be at the top
I should think it would, at least until someone bids any amount more than you did for the new month...then your standing would drop accordingly
I think it's clicks after FRIH$..you'll have to ask Bondings doh
My site is deleted/removed from there without any reason and the admin/mods are clueless about it.
You can post only a single site.
And there are tons of other reasons.
We expected better than this atleast.
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You can post only a single site.
And there are tons of other reasons.
We expected better than this atleast.
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| manumiglani wrote: |
| Frihost Directory Really Sucks............ My site is deleted/removed from there without any reason and the admin/mods are clueless about it.
It has no directlinks and also has nofollow attribute. You can post only a single site. And there are tons of other reasons. It sucks We expected better than this atleast. |
Is your site removed from the directory listing page or is it not there in the categories itself?
Also, I got my site listed on 3 search engines because of the directory
I dare not complain, atleast for now
| manumiglani wrote: |
| Frihost Directory Really Sucks............ My site is deleted/removed from there without any reason and the admin/mods are clueless about it. |
Before flamming us, you should know that our Directory is only in BETA and there will definately be bugs as in all BETAs.
We're trying to find out why your entry was removed/not there.
| manumiglani wrote: |
| It has no directlinks and also has nofollow attribute. |
Of course, we want to track who clicks on what, otherwise how would we know how many clicks were there?
There would be no point letting the bots follow it, you cannot even pagerank of it as it's just a redirect to your site.
manumiglani, if you think you are so good at coding, please, go start your own webhost, manage it, modify it, create your own directories and stuff. Coding isn't simple. Bondings is doing this because he's kind, he doesn't really make much money off Frihost. The ads here barely meet his costs, he has to pay out of his own pocket sometimes.
The directory coding is done by him and only him, naturally, there would be bugs.
Please, think before you flame anyone.
manumiglani, your website is not removed from the directory. It's just that I didn't have enough time to work on it. I originally planned to have pages of 10 listings and your website is currently at 11. I removed the limit now and it is appearing again.
By the way, this link was always working. http://www.frihost.com/directory/site-33.php
I will most likely also make it possible to have up to 3 listings per person, they however all have to be hosted by Frihost.
About the "nofollow". There is no way I'm going to link directly from the frihost.com website to all those other websites. There is a good chance that google would ban us because of it (all on the same ip).
I was originally going to register a domain for the directory and put it there (and then link directly without the "nofollow" tag). However, the clicks wouldn't be counted anyway and I suppose it would have more or less the same problems.
By the way, this link was always working. http://www.frihost.com/directory/site-33.php
I will most likely also make it possible to have up to 3 listings per person, they however all have to be hosted by Frihost.
About the "nofollow". There is no way I'm going to link directly from the frihost.com website to all those other websites. There is a good chance that google would ban us because of it (all on the same ip).
I was originally going to register a domain for the directory and put it there (and then link directly without the "nofollow" tag). However, the clicks wouldn't be counted anyway and I suppose it would have more or less the same problems.
| Bondings wrote: |
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About the "nofollow". There is no way I'm going to link directly from the frihost.com website to all those other websites. There is a good chance that google would ban us because of it (all on the same ip). I was originally going to register a domain for the directory and put it there (and then link directly without the "nofollow" tag). However, the clicks wouldn't be counted anyway and I suppose it would have more or less the same problems. |
May I ask why that would happen?
Like many sites have a number of links on their pages.
What causes google to ban them?
I did not comprehend the last line of the 2nd para.Kindly elaborate.
Also, what exactly is the nofollow tag used for?
is it related to the counting of clicks?
Thank you
I don't know about the banning thingy.
But having "nofollow", makes a search bot not follow that link.
But having "nofollow", makes a search bot not follow that link
.| n0obie4life wrote: |
| I don't know about the banning thingy.
But having "nofollow", makes a search bot not follow that link . |
He said that the clicks would not be counted anyway, why is that?
Because it was mentioned that its necessary to measur the no. of clicks only in the earlier para
| n0obie4life wrote: |
| But having "nofollow", makes a search bot not follow that link . |
No, it actually does follow and sometimes even show the link if you search for them with "link:site". It just doesn't see it as a "vote" and doesn't (or not as much) transfer any pagerank.
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| May I ask why that would happen? Like many sites have a number of links on their pages. What causes google to ban them? I did not comprehend the last line of the 2nd para. |
The problem is that all websites are on the same 2 ips, both in the same ip-range (c-class ip). Normally this happens very very rarely as there are so many different ip-addresses in the world.
Also, quite a few websites link back to Frihost. Those links are being devalued anyway if you compare it with one-way links.
When Google notices this, it will see it as suspicious and punish the website in question (=us). The punishment can even result in a complete ban or just by ranking us much lower. I really can't risk it.
About the clicks, well if you have a direct link (the only ones counted as a "vote" or real link, the "nofollow" isn't really needed in this case) then you aren't able to count the clicks. Like if I link to xxx.frihost.net . The browser just requests xxx.frihost.net and the website linking to it doesn't even know that.
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| Bondings wrote: |
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When Google notices this, it will see it as suspicious and punish the website in question (=us). The punishment can even result in a complete ban or just by ranking us much lower. I really can't risk it. |
What exactly causes google to suspect us?
I mean, is having multiple links on 1 ip illegal or something
We are just linking, right?
| scorpio wrote: |
| What exactly causes google to suspect us?
I mean, is having multiple links on 1 ip illegal or something We are just linking, right? |
Oh, but it's certainly not illegal. But there are a lot of things that aren't illegal and that can get you banned from the google index. Like hidden text or linking to "bad neighbourhoods", like spammy websites or link farms.
The thing is, that Google likes natural links. Take 2 random websites on the internet, the chance they are on the same ip is really small to unexistant. If there are 100 sites on the same ip, then that's a bit too suspicious.
It's just a way to keep their pagerank system alive and to avoid spam/low quality websites and scrapers.
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| Don't participate in link schemes designed to increase your site's ranking or PageRank. In particular, avoid links to web spammers or "bad neighborhoods" on the web, as your own ranking may be affected adversely by those links. |
http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35772&ctx=sibling
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| The thing is, that Google likes natural links. Take 2 random websites on the internet, the chance they are on the same ip is really small to unexistant. If there are 100 sites on the same ip, then that's a bit too suspicious. |
Is it in this situation frihosters link exchange can result with baned from google?
Sonam
| n0obie4life wrote: |
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Before flamming us, you should know that our Directory is only in BETA and there will definately be bugs as in all BETAs. |
How could I know that the Directory is in BETA ?
http://www.frihost.com/directory/ It is the homepage of the Frihost Forum Directory and no information is provided there about the directory being alpha, in beta.
Well the bondings's announcement about the opening of frihost directoryalso does not state that the directory is in beta or some thing. It just says that its need to be completed that does not specify that directory is in beta. It only specifies that the directory is in still to be completed.
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| Bondings is doing this because he's kind, he doesn't really make much money off Frihost. The ads here barely meet his costs, he has to pay out of his own pocket sometimes. |
I know that and I really appreciate and respect Bondings for that.
| n0obie4life wrote: |
| The directory coding is done by him and only him, naturally, there would be bugs. |
I understand that.
| Bondings wrote: |
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I originally planned to have pages of 10 listings and your website is currently at 11 |
What makes my site fall on the 11th place. I mean on what factors does it depend ?
| Bondings wrote: |
| I will most likely also make it possible to have up to 3 listings per person, they however all have to be hosted by Frihost. |
Eagerly Waiting for that.
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First off, I thought it was in the queue because that's the standard reply to everyone (at least for me, and I didn't know that the bug existed at that time of posting)
Then you said that you were sure you were accepted, so I checked.
Yes, it's there, so I did some research, played around with the ids for the request and found out (and I spent almost 45 minutes trying to do that for you) it's on the second page of the directory (which doesn't exist at that time of posting).
Then you asked again, I told you I didn't have time to talk to Bondings about it.
Definately not. We don't pick mods based on that. We have mods all around the world. Australia, India, Europe, America.
I don't know where you can find this, we seldom go offtopic.
Nothing goes with examples. We have our reasons for closing topics. That's for sure.
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You don't know that the directory is in BETA?
that's on the index page! on our forums!
The factors that caused you to drop to 11th place is because of the bidding system. Just put in something like 10 FRIH$ on your listing and you'll be up there.
This can be done through the account page - http://www.frihost.com/account.php
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Then you said that you were sure you were accepted, so I checked.
Yes, it's there, so I did some research, played around with the ids for the request and found out (and I spent almost 45 minutes trying to do that for you) it's on the second page of the directory (which doesn't exist at that time of posting).
Then you asked again, I told you I didn't have time to talk to Bondings about it.
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| I think its basically based on regional and family factors. |
Definately not. We don't pick mods based on that. We have mods all around the world. Australia, India, Europe, America.
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| I think there should be a rule in the Frihost Forum rules page ( I am sorry I should be posting this in suggestions forum ) that mods can break the rules whenever they like because they do that more often than anyone else. They post dam off topic replies that are very irritating. They closed the topics which should not be closed and the topic that should be closed are always open. I know that only mods can decide that according to frihost forum rules. Can Bondings please reveal the factors on which mods are decided however he can hide if he wish to. I think its basically based on regional and family factors. However, I can be wrong as always. |
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| I can give truly give you many examples of what I have just said where the mods of Frihost just behaved childish ( not all of them ) and spread their crap all over the frihost forum. |
I don't know where you can find this, we seldom go offtopic.
Nothing goes with examples. We have our reasons for closing topics. That's for sure.
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You don't know that the directory is in BETA?
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| The submissions for the Frihost Directory are now officially opened, the directory itself isn't finished yet. |
that's on the index page! on our forums!
The factors that caused you to drop to 11th place is because of the bidding system. Just put in something like 10 FRIH$ on your listing and you'll be up there.
This can be done through the account page - http://www.frihost.com/account.php
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The Directory is still new and has problems, all of which Bondings and N0obie know about and are working on, unfortunatly Bondings is very busy and has little time to edit the code so the problems will be fixed as soon as possible.
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| You don't know that the directory is in BETA?
Quote: The submissions for the Frihost Directory are now officially opened, the directory itself isn't finished yet. that's on the index page! on our forums! |
He mentioned in the earlier post.
"Just because it is incomplete it does not mean it is in beta"
Beta means
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| The second stage a software program goes through before a final is released. Software undergoes rigorous testing until it is ready to be released. |
That does not mean the software is incomplete.
It means it has some bugs, but the coding is done.
Since you have mentioned it is incomplete, it does not mean it is being tested.
It means *"in software terms" * that the coding is not complete
Before completion of coding no one can release a beta or an alpha for that matter.
scorpio, a BETA means, the core coding is complete. But not the whole thing is complete and there would be bugs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_version#Beta
When we released the Directory, it didn't have the auction system and was EXTREMELY basic. We added the Auction system now and it's rather limited to be honest (I want to test something, but I don't want to "destroy" my FRIH$). Such as the fact that you need to keep pressing the FRIH$ and you cannot bid something like "26 FRIH$".
As pointed out in the Wikipedia link too, Windows Vista is in BETA, are you telling me that it's code is not complete? It's rather complete, to be frank, it's just bugfixes, testing, and etc now.
And scorpio, I thought you go to the phpBB forums, they have lots of [BETA] mods in the development forum. You should know that these BETA mods have their code and etc, but they are buggy..I thought you knew that..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_version#Beta
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| A beta version or beta release usually represents the first version of a computer program that implements all required features although additional features may be added. It is likely to be unstable but useful for internal demonstrations and previews to select customers, but not yet ready for release. Some developers refer to this stage as a preview, as a technical preview (TP) or as an early access.
Often this stage begins when the developers announce a feature freeze on the product, indicating that no more features requirements will be accepted for this version of the product. Only software issues, or bugs and unimplemented features will be addressed. Beta versions stand at an intermediate step in the full development cycle. Developers release them to a group of beta testers (sometimes the general public) for a user test. The testers report any bugs that they found and sometimes minor features they would like to see in the final version. |
When we released the Directory, it didn't have the auction system and was EXTREMELY basic. We added the Auction system now and it's rather limited to be honest (I want to test something, but I don't want to "destroy" my FRIH$
). Such as the fact that you need to keep pressing the FRIH$ and you cannot bid something like "26 FRIH$".
As pointed out in the Wikipedia link too, Windows Vista is in BETA, are you telling me that it's code is not complete? It's rather complete, to be frank, it's just bugfixes, testing, and etc now
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And scorpio, I thought you go to the phpBB forums, they have lots of [BETA] mods in the development forum. You should know that these BETA mods have their code and etc, but they are buggy..I thought you knew that..
Added the fact it's in BETA to the announcement so there can now be no confusion. (Hope Bondings doesn't mind)
| n0obie4life wrote: | ||
| scorpio, a BETA means, the core coding is complete. But not the whole thing is complete and there would be bugs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_version#Beta
When we released the Directory, it didn't have the auction system and was EXTREMELY basic. We added the Auction system now and it's rather limited to be honest (I want to test something, but I don't want to "destroy" my FRIH$ ). Such as the fact that you need to keep pressing the FRIH$ and you cannot bid something like "26 FRIH$".
As pointed out in the Wikipedia link too, Windows Vista is in BETA, are you telling me that it's code is not complete? It's rather complete, to be frank, it's just bugfixes, testing, and etc now .
And scorpio, I thought you go to the phpBB forums, they have lots of [BETA] mods in the development forum. You should know that these BETA mods have their code and etc, but they are buggy..I thought you knew that.. |
OMG
I am sure you misunderstood me noobie..
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| Since you have mentioned it is incomplete, it does not mean it is being tested.
It means *"in software terms" * that the coding is not complete |
Also,
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Beta means Quote: The second stage a software program goes through before a final is released. Software undergoes rigorous testing until it is ready to be released. That does not mean the software is incomplete. <<--This sentence means that the coding is complete It means it has some bugs, but the coding is done |
Hope you understood
You completely misunderstood me and made a 4 point post there
| n0obie4life wrote: | ||
| You aren't refunded any money.
The amount you bid, then it will be "stored", and your ranking on the account page will rise. Depending on the amount you paid (look at the fansites one, I paid 10 FRIH$ while mathiaus paid 50 FRIH$, so he get's a higher directory listing than me. But I get a higher listing than those who never paid. http://www.frihost.com/directory/category-3.php - you can see the amount we bid by clicking on "more info"). You can make as many as you want. No where land. It just disappears.
No such thing. The current leader is the one right at the top of the listing. 1 month. No FAQ yet. |
Wow. That's a pretty nice concept. Thanks for explaning it.
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You don't know that the directory is in BETA? |
How could I know unless it was stated. It is stated now atleast
So by seeing thae data in the directory one can easily see that some sites have the same no. of Bidding amounts (0 Frih$) and some sites have less no. of clicks but these sites are still placed above my site.
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The number of clicks has nothing to do with the listing. The listings are ordered by the bidding amount. If there is no bid available, then the database outputs the listings in a default order, it is by id, so the people who requested first, will be put higher.
how do i submit my site???
| salman_500 wrote: |
| how do i submit my site??? |
At the bottom of http://www.frihost.com/forums/account.php
I've gotton ~5 more unique visitors since I bidded.
| manumiglani wrote: | ||
How could I know unless it was stated. It is stated now atleast So by seeing thae data in the directory one can easily see that some sites have the same no. of Bidding amounts (0 Frih$) and some sites have less no. of clicks but these sites are still placed above my site. |
The defination of BETA is common sense. Totally common sense.
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