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The whole are we real debate.

 


Emineo
The famous French philosopher Renι Descartes said, "Cogito ergo sum",
Which translates basically to, "I think therefore I am".

From my perspective you could be a creation of my own imagination and to you I could be as well. However there is a point in which a person has to make a decision in what to accept as reality and what to set aside. It all depends on where to draw the line.

There could be a brand of soda pop called Coca Cola on a planet that orbits the star HR 7001. Because at this moment we do not have the ability to thoroughly scan any orbiting planets and search under every stone or ice crevice. This possibility doesn't seem likely but it "could" be true. If in the future we do have the ability to thoroughly check any planets orbiting HR 7001 specifically for Coca Cola brand products remotely then it is up the individual to decide if they "trust" the scanning device. If even further into the future there is a transport to these distant planets and the individual could go see for his or herself that there are no Coca Cola products that were originally produced on these baron planets and after observing with their own eyes that there is nothing to be found regarding Coca Cola at the time of observation the individual has a choice to trust what they see with their eyes or the choice not to.

Here in lies the problem, if this is all a computer simulation we still have consequences within this simulation. If I put my hand in the flame on the stove for a long enough period of time my hand will be burned and I will most likely experience pain. I could quite possibly have a tumor in my brain that I am unaware of and this tumor affects the brain in a way that my nerves do not feel the effects of something hot. It could be true but most likely not. If this reality is not real while the consequences experienced within this reality are then a line has to be drawn. Will the individual work with the reality that which surrounds them and try to experience positive consequences or will the individual choose to ignore their reality and ask questions of why they are experiencing such negative consequences?

I am not saying that if you accept reality you will not experience negative consequences but more so how to avoid some negative consequences while finding or creating positive ones. If you do not like the reality you exist in then do what you can to change it using what exists within it.
tidruG
In general, our faith in the superiority of human brain leads us to believe that everything we touch, see, hear, etc is real. In truth, this could all be a perception.

Reality is subjectively personal. If I was in a coma, and my brain sent impulses to every muscle in my body, and made me "feel" everything I was dreaming, I would assume it all to be real, and change my behaviour and my attitude to accept this reality and try to get on in it the best I can.

Now imagine the doctor treating me. He knows that in my coma, I am in my dream world, and for him everything I am seeing or feeling or touching or tasting or hearing is not real, and hence does not affect him at all. However, his own world... everything he touches, tastes, sees, hears, feels, etc. is real to him, and he will adapt and learn and apply to change himself to do the best he can in his reality and be the most comfortable he can be here.

So, my answer is that as long as we perceive that what surrounds us is real, we adapt to try and reach positive consequences.
Subsonic Sound
It's a huge and unresolvable sphere of debate, which is, in my view, entirely nullified by three words.


Does it matter?
tidruG
Subsonic Sound wrote:
It's a huge and unresolvable sphere of debate, which is, in my view, entirely nullified by three words.


Does it matter?

Very Happy
Hmm....
Well, come to think of it... does anything matter? We're just a bunch og people from all around the world posting on forums, discussing, debating, arguing various issues. What conclusions we reach won't change the world or the gravity of the issue being debated. We argue about religion, God (or lack of one), the rightness of a certain issue, etc etc. In reality, we are as unlikely to change someone's ideas or thoughts or feelings about these issues as we are of being able to give ourselves CPR Razz
But in the end, we learn from others' perspectives, we understand how people think and why they think so. It's fun and it's fantastic to learn all this, at least for me. Very Happy
Subsonic Sound
It can be fun to debate, I'll give you that - and please don't take my post as trying to stop debate or anything. With most philosophical or theological debates, while the answers are often purely subjective and impossible to prove, the answers do at least have an affect on something.

But if you don't exist, you can't be debating. So you must exist in some form. And since whatever that form is, what we see around us is the planet earth, and our daily human lives... does it actually matter what the form is?
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