What's your oppinion about them?
Difference in soft/hard drugs?
Legalisation?
Arguments pro and contra please.
I personally believe that using drugs in a responsible way isn't bad, and can often open whole new perspectives on things.
For example: I can think way better about my problems, and find a better solution for some when I smoked some weed.
I don't think they are really terrible... I don't do them, but I don't find it hard to hang out or accept people who do.
my question on it would really be one of religion and morality in the situation. whenever someone talks about how they don't do drugs, you can say they are good little christian people or sometime like that. Most of my upright christian friends condem drugs and things like that... but what if you went somewhere, like amsterdam, where "drugs" weren't "drugs" they were just like cigarettes or other normal things you could buy, and it wasn't illegal. does that still make it "wrong" to do them?
smoking, i don't really consider it as drugs... more like the illegal stuff or like otc/prescription medicine i consider more like drugs. but most of the time when people think drugs they think of cigarettes, smoking, stuff like that.
if that's what you mean by drugs, then i don't really have a problem with it. i don't smoke, or do any drugs of any kind. but i have friends who do, and it doesn't really bother me that much. it does bother me however when people kind of boast about their drug habbits aka using it to show off. which i think is pretty pathetic. as for the otc pres. or illegal drugs, meh, idon't really like it. if you want to you can do whatever you like, i just don't really like it if someone i knew was doing drugs of that sort. mainly because it messes you up too much. smoking a cigarette, you can still talk to a person, cocain, pcp stuff like that, you'd be lucky if the person was looking at you while you talk to them.
i actually want to try smoking just for the hell of it. and also because of the antismoking people make the gayest commercials, makes me want to pick one up everytime i see one of their commercials on tv.
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smoking, i don't really consider it as drugs... more like the illegal stuff or like otc/prescription medicine i consider more like drugs. but most of the time when people think drugs they think of cigarettes, smoking, stuff like that.
if that's what you mean by drugs, then i don't really have a problem with it. i don't smoke, or do any drugs of any kind. but i have friends who do, and it doesn't really bother me that much. it does bother me however when people kind of boast about their drug habbits aka using it to show off. which i think is pretty pathetic. as for the otc pres. or illegal drugs, meh, idon't really like it. if you want to you can do whatever you like, i just don't really like it if someone i knew was doing drugs of that sort. mainly because it messes you up too much. smoking a cigarette, you can still talk to a person, cocain, pcp stuff like that, you'd be lucky if the person was looking at you while you talk to them.
i actually want to try smoking just for the hell of it. and also because of the antismoking people make the gayest commercials, makes me want to pick one up everytime i see one of their commercials on tv. |
from what I know/have heard smoking cigs will mess you up alot worse then pot. supposedly pot is alot less bad for your lungs, and doesn't really give you too bad of a high. Plus to kill yourself, you have to smoke more then your bodyweight in a sitting... which is impossible, because by that time you'll have passed out. | 494701557 wrote: |
smoking, i don't really consider it as drugs... more like the illegal stuff or like otc/prescription medicine i consider more like drugs. but most of the time when people think drugs they think of cigarettes, smoking, stuff like that.
if that's what you mean by drugs, then i don't really have a problem with it. i don't smoke, or do any drugs of any kind. but i have friends who do, and it doesn't really bother me that much. it does bother me however when people kind of boast about their drug habbits aka using it to show off. which i think is pretty pathetic. as for the otc pres. or illegal drugs, meh, idon't really like it. if you want to you can do whatever you like, i just don't really like it if someone i knew was doing drugs of that sort. mainly because it messes you up too much. smoking a cigarette, you can still talk to a person, cocain, pcp stuff like that, you'd be lucky if the person was looking at you while you talk to them.
i actually want to try smoking just for the hell of it. and also because of the antismoking people make the gayest commercials, makes me want to pick one up everytime i see one of their commercials on tv. |
Haha, yeah i know what you mean.
Hm yeah I can seriously get irritated when people do it to show off/
But those are often the gay little 14 year olds wanting to show the world how cool they are. Bah
About the messing up part:
I'm an occasional weed-user and I honestly haven't experienced any negative consequences of it, besides maybe the money I've spent on it, though i don't regret that.
I feel like the whole addictive-aspect on weed is so overrated.
I can't speak on behalf of other drugs though.I've seen nothing good come from drugs, not one good thing... So I'm pretty much against it.
| Soulfire wrote: |
| I've seen nothing good come from drugs, not one good thing... So I'm pretty much against it. |
Typical Christian answer.
(Joking...)
I don't care about drugs, they shouldn't be illegal - people can self-destruct however they want. Nobody has the right to tell us what we can and can't do with our bodies. | Soulfire wrote: |
| I've seen nothing good come from drugs, not one good thing... So I'm pretty much against it. |
Hmm, that's pretty narrowminded imo.
Just listen to influential bands like Pink Floyd, they changed music industry, and when they made their greatest records they were on LSD.
I can go on by saying a very big amount of medieval-writers (even Shakespeare) used types of mind-expanding drugs.may be it would be better to using drugs but not so important...
| selim06 wrote: |
| may be it would be better to using drugs but not so important... |
Hmm no i don't think so... I do believe that (example here), if you don't have any 'talent' by yourself, drugs won't make you a masterpiece-writer.
However about the non-importance of drugs in the matter i really disagree,
let's take the Pink Floyd example.
They were on a LSD-trip while they wrote their biggest works. When you're on an LSD-trip your COMPLETELY off this world, your mind works in a totally different way... . So about the non-importance.. I don't agree.
Further discussion pls! | Frop wrote: |
| selim06 wrote: | | may be it would be better to using drugs but not so important... |
Hmm no i don't think so... I do believe that (example here), if you don't have any 'talent' by yourself, drugs won't make you a masterpiece-writer.
However about the non-importance of drugs in the matter i really disagree,
let's take the Pink Floyd example.
They were on a LSD-trip while they wrote their biggest works. When you're on an LSD-trip your COMPLETELY off this world, your mind works in a totally different way... . So about the non-importance.. I don't agree.
Further discussion pls! |
It sounds like you're contradicting yourself. | Marston wrote: |
| Frop wrote: | | selim06 wrote: | | may be it would be better to using drugs but not so important... |
Hmm no i don't think so... I do believe that (example here), if you don't have any 'talent' by yourself, drugs won't make you a masterpiece-writer.
However about the non-importance of drugs in the matter i really disagree,
let's take the Pink Floyd example.
They were on a LSD-trip while they wrote their biggest works. When you're on an LSD-trip your COMPLETELY off this world, your mind works in a totally different way... . So about the non-importance.. I don't agree.
Further discussion pls! |
It sounds like you're contradicting yourself. |
Hmm can you tell me where?I read through my post and i can't find it(this not ment offensive to you:)) Basicly i just said that if there's nothing there, drugs won't do miracles, but if the 'talent' is present, drugs can really mean a significant difference.So would you propose legislation that allowed those with " talent" to take substances such as LSD?
I think the Human mind is capable of incredible things. Sometimes drugs/medications can enhance these things, but more often drugs in particular creates more social problems, more poverty, more crime, and more tolerance to the crime.
Who is responsible?
| snjripp wrote: |
So would you propose legislation that allowed those with " talent" to take substances such as LSD?
I think the Human mind is capable of incredible things. Sometimes drugs/medications can enhance these things, but more often drugs in particular creates more social problems, more poverty, more crime, and more tolerance to the crime.
Who is responsible? |
Hmm no i don't think legalizing drugs like LSD is the way to go, i just hate it when people see things so one-sided (drugs=bad).
And the responsability lies in ourselves i believe, but i also think legalizing (soft)drugs opens various ways of making people more responsible about using drugs, legalisation is the only way the people can truly be informed about the (possible) consequences it can have.
In contrast to now, where our government (i'm talking about Belgium) rather invests money in campagnes contra weed. As long as it isn't legalized, the government can't really hold a campaign telling, for example, how to blow safely, or how to seperate quality from trash stuff. -->legalize it->socially accepted->clear image about drugs.
This will have as + side that a lot of people, who would've done it anyway, are way more informed, and can 'blow' in a much safer and better way.
Another + of legalizing it would be the quality-control of softddrugs.
Right now here in Belgium you have to get your stuff via via, unexperienced/unaware clients often buy low quality stuff that can make you hallucinate (in a wrong way), gets you mass-headaches etc.
Sorry that this text isn't well written, or sometimes isn't 100% clear, i'm really tired but i wanted to write this now. If any other unclarities please point out, thx!
DiscussMy opinion on drugs is a fairly open one. If someone wants to mess themselves up with it, that's cool as long as they don't push their messes onto others. You want to take LSD? Fill your boots I say, but don't do something stupid and get behind the wheel of a car, 'cause then you're not messing with your life anymore.
I don't really do any hardcore drugs, and I don't smoke (don't really see the point of cigarettes... bad for the lungs and no high).
The problem with drugs is that people take it overboard. There is a difference between smoking a joint with some buddies, and doing acid until you run out into the street claiming there is a dragon on your tail and he'll sing "Sweet Caroline" far too loudly if he catches you.
But think of an intoxicant that's legal: alcohol. Some people "enjoy responsibly" and others don't. By legalizing these things, we'll just have more stupid people who now have a really easy time of getting their hands on stuff that will drive them (and possibly those around them) to an early grave. And that, my friends, would suck.
| Soulfire wrote: |
| I've seen nothing good come from drugs, not one good thing... So I'm pretty much against it. |
I feel the same way about bubble gum! 
Seriously, what is the basis of laws against drugs? Anything bad you can do on drugs or becuase of drugs is already illegal (I have to assume that) so isn't proscribing a possible cause of the illegal acts prior restraint? It seems to me that smokin' a doobie (show's my age, huh?) is a victimless crime.
If the argument is that using makes you more likely to injure others due to diminished capacity, why is alcohol legal?
I think we are just too eager to make laws against things we don't understand or find upsetting to own little cliques.
Yep, I also think prostitution and gay marriage is ok. Why not? Just because I'm not remotely interested in either one doesn't mean they should be outlawed. Heck, think about what legalizing drugs and prostitution would do to organized crime! Hmm. Maybe they are the ones behind this laws..... 
