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What do babies talk?
Many people believe that babies talk in their own language until they learn how to use the most common one around them.
On the other hand, some people believe that the babies just speak anything while trying to speak something....
What do you think?
psst....I was inspired to post this as my smaller cousin sister has just started speaking (very little though!)
On the other hand, some people believe that the babies just speak anything while trying to speak something....
What do you think?
psst....I was inspired to post this as my smaller cousin sister has just started speaking (very little though!)
There has been research that seems to indicate that young children can understand what each are wittering about even though adults can't. I haven't actually looked at the research so I'm in no position to offer a valid opinion.
Hehe, no. Infants and young children only make the sounds they do because their underdeveloped muscle toning and motor skills prohibit understandable speech. It takes a while for the human brain to actually develop the parietal lobes enough to fully control muscle activity. Much of their movement is reflex, being triggered not by the brain at all, but by tiny cells called interneurons, that take sensory impulses on the way to the brain and bridge them directly to motor nerves.
Many senses such as hearing and sight, are developed quite quickly (often during prenatal growth). That is because the temporal lobes are produced very early in growth as a fetus, they almost immediately follow the medulla oblongata and the medulla. Since the two temporal lobes are responsible for hearing and balance, the hearing is developed first.
The frontal lobe is the slowest to form, and often carries on until the early twenties. The frontal is what controls most motor functions, which depend on the parietal lobes to understand what is to be done. The parietal lobes are responsible for thought, and short and long term memory. They develop almost immediately after the frontal lobe, although sometimes taking until the 3rd or 4th month outside the womb to fully form.
To summarize, no. Babies are incapable of having their own language. See, the only ways they can try to communicate their needs are by crying (quite unspecific on what exactly is wanted), laughter, and random experiments to see what trying a certain way would produce sound (thus is the "language" that babies use). Crying and laughter are natural responses, and happen without much thought or effort, being directly induced by environmental conditions. The random "words" that they speak are their way of trying a specific combination of airflow, tongue, and lip movements will do.
Many senses such as hearing and sight, are developed quite quickly (often during prenatal growth). That is because the temporal lobes are produced very early in growth as a fetus, they almost immediately follow the medulla oblongata and the medulla. Since the two temporal lobes are responsible for hearing and balance, the hearing is developed first.
The frontal lobe is the slowest to form, and often carries on until the early twenties. The frontal is what controls most motor functions, which depend on the parietal lobes to understand what is to be done. The parietal lobes are responsible for thought, and short and long term memory. They develop almost immediately after the frontal lobe, although sometimes taking until the 3rd or 4th month outside the womb to fully form.
To summarize, no. Babies are incapable of having their own language. See, the only ways they can try to communicate their needs are by crying (quite unspecific on what exactly is wanted), laughter, and random experiments to see what trying a certain way would produce sound (thus is the "language" that babies use). Crying and laughter are natural responses, and happen without much thought or effort, being directly induced by environmental conditions. The random "words" that they speak are their way of trying a specific combination of airflow, tongue, and lip movements will do.
I guess i didn't take "speak their own language" literally enough... oops
I just had, well my wife just had... well WE had a son just 10 days ago. I clicked yes on the poll. I took it to be do they have their own language. I was then going to say that while i don't think they have an oral language they certainly have body language that is pretty easy for an involved parent to distinguish. At 10 days old I can tell by my sons facial expressions, and or his hand and feet movements while he's crying whether he is hungry, wants attention, is in the proccess of getting out a big fart or poop, or just has a dirty diaper that is annoying him enough to make him whine about it. I'm not always right at my interpretations but I have a really good accuracy so far.
I just had, well my wife just had... well WE had a son just 10 days ago. I clicked yes on the poll. I took it to be do they have their own language. I was then going to say that while i don't think they have an oral language they certainly have body language that is pretty easy for an involved parent to distinguish. At 10 days old I can tell by my sons facial expressions, and or his hand and feet movements while he's crying whether he is hungry, wants attention, is in the proccess of getting out a big fart or poop, or just has a dirty diaper that is annoying him enough to make him whine about it. I'm not always right at my interpretations but I have a really good accuracy so far.
Bladesage - while what you say is correct, it depends how you want to define "babies". Certainly you have described the reasons why neo-nates cannot speak but after the age of about 3 motor control is adequate. It was that age group to which I referred.
When children start to "speak", they usually mispronounce words and, consequently, adults have a lot of trouble understanding them. However, that research I mentioned seemed to indicate that other children of the same age could understand perfectly well.
Whether that could be classed as their own language, I'm not sure. But it certainly seems to be vocal communication which their peers can understand.
When children start to "speak", they usually mispronounce words and, consequently, adults have a lot of trouble understanding them. However, that research I mentioned seemed to indicate that other children of the same age could understand perfectly well.
Whether that could be classed as their own language, I'm not sure. But it certainly seems to be vocal communication which their peers can understand.
| DoctorBeaver wrote: |
| Bladesage - while what you say is correct, it depends how you want to define "babies". Certainly you have described the reasons why neo-nates cannot speak but after the age of about 3 motor control is adequate. It was that age group to which I referred.
When children start to "speak", they usually mispronounce words and, consequently, adults have a lot of trouble understanding them. However, that research I mentioned seemed to indicate that other children of the same age could understand perfectly well. Whether that could be classed as their own language, I'm not sure. But it certainly seems to be vocal communication which their peers can understand. |
I agree. It's not a full language like english, but they can communicate well enough to serve most baby purposes.
As unlikely as it sounds to me at first, I can see your point. Young children may or may not have their own language, but they can understand each other quite well. It doesn't always take a child to understand another child, since I can understand my four-year-old nephew quite well. Yes, it is quite possible that young children can have their own language, if that's what you prefer to call it. It just doesn't seem right to me that babies speak their own language.
I find it hard to belive that humans are born with a built in language.
If it was so, adults would have noticed the simularities in the gurgles and chirps of infants when interacting with specific objects.
People pay alot of attention to their children and I have a hard time beliving that such a language would go unnoticed for so long.
Another point is that as adult apes have basic language skills and the intelegence of young children, the researchers of apes would have noticed the paterns of communication in infants at the get go.
If it was so, adults would have noticed the simularities in the gurgles and chirps of infants when interacting with specific objects.
People pay alot of attention to their children and I have a hard time beliving that such a language would go unnoticed for so long.
Another point is that as adult apes have basic language skills and the intelegence of young children, the researchers of apes would have noticed the paterns of communication in infants at the get go.
if babies can do something complicated likespeak their own language from birth, why can't they hold in their bodily fluids as well.
its they way our minds are set up, humans are curious and need to know why some things happen and for what reason. when the questions were first ask, no one know the answer. what do you do in an exam were you don't know the answer to a question but you have to answer it, you fugde it, make up some mumbo jumbo that sounds half legitimate, and hope you get some marks.
alot of old beliefs and old wives tales are based on unproven and highly un-inform guess work.
its they way our minds are set up, humans are curious and need to know why some things happen and for what reason. when the questions were first ask, no one know the answer. what do you do in an exam were you don't know the answer to a question but you have to answer it, you fugde it, make up some mumbo jumbo that sounds half legitimate, and hope you get some marks.
alot of old beliefs and old wives tales are based on unproven and highly un-inform guess work.
Well, while infants more than likely don't have their own language, it's really nothing we can prove. We obviously can't just walk up to a child and ask it if it speaks its own language. We could, but it would be pretty stupid, and wouldn't produce many results. Young children continue to learn more as they grow, and they don't usually even make the same sounds multiple times for the same emotion, and when they do it's just a coincidence.
I honestly find it quite hard to believe that they can even understand more than two or three words by the time they reach the infamous todler years. Why would they, if they barely even outgrow diapers by the time they reach the end of todlerhood?
I honestly find it quite hard to believe that they can even understand more than two or three words by the time they reach the infamous todler years. Why would they, if they barely even outgrow diapers by the time they reach the end of todlerhood?
I have to say that I am certain that babies "speak their own language".
I wouldn't use those words necessarily, but...
My son has been using sign language to communicate his needs to us since he was 4 months old. And much of our communication is learning HIS words for things, while he is learning to speak OURS... he understands fully, but has to translate from "baby english" into "adult english".
That doesn't mean we encourage baby talk, but we have to accept that it's there...
I wouldn't use those words necessarily, but...
My son has been using sign language to communicate his needs to us since he was 4 months old. And much of our communication is learning HIS words for things, while he is learning to speak OURS... he understands fully, but has to translate from "baby english" into "adult english".
That doesn't mean we encourage baby talk, but we have to accept that it's there...
That doesn't make much sense to me. Oh, well. It makes more sense than that whole ovary/infundibulum thing 
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I just don't get that at all.........
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I just don't get that at all.........
Babys speak with their feet. By rubbing them on each others feet, does anybody agree 
| dwcnps wrote: |
| Babys speak with their feet. By rubbing them on each others feet, does anybody agree |
No, what the heck? Feet? What's your reasoning behind that? It doesn't make any sense to me. But, I just don't think that they're even capable of their own language. I just don't see how they could be. Todlers, I believe that the point was made clear that it seems they're akmost capable of what we'd call a language.
But still, feet
? What the heck?!?I think that babies might have some kind of very little language. Look, when you see a child grow up, they develop their own little language. When they want water they say something like blem-blem, or something like bo-boo when they get hurt. Although I don't believe that babies could comunicate with each other...
| mantasx wrote: |
| I think that babies might have some kind of very little language. Look, when you see a child grow up, they develop their own little language. When they want water they say something like blem-blem, or something like bo-boo when they get hurt. Although I don't believe that babies could comunicate with each other... |
i agree with mantasx
yes babies have their own language with few words and gestures.
they actually learn from the surroundings.
they just mimic what others do and have their own characteristics too.
some times they makes gestures too while saying words like bo-boo or blem -belm.
however even i think two babies cant communicate but feel happy to see they are similar and laugh at each other.
i think thats the reason for their reaction when two babies meet......
my little baby was borned almost two months ago. i have learned a lot since then, and now I have got used to his sounds, cries, movements, and so on. In last days, we have visited some friends my wife and me did during a prebirth course we took some months ago, when she was pregnant. It's amazing to see how all tha babies react the same under specific situations: when thy are hungry, they all cry in a specific way; when they are tired, they have a different specific sound; when they have colics, they also cry in a particular way. I don't think they have a complex language, but i believe they try to communicate in universal ways.
I think that babies are really able to speak and express their emotions. I remember some things that happened to me when I was one year old. And I don´t now if I add some words to this memories later, but I´m pretty sure that I want to say something and the sounds I make were very probable saying it. So I think that babies are really talking and saying something important to us.
I think that, in a sense, they do. It would be similar to body language, or communication between animals. Tacit understandings and things of that nature.
i think baby can "talk"wif their language.bxoz when they r hungry,they will trying 2 say something to let us know.so i think they hav their own langguage.
I don't think they have their own language, but; in a way, they have their own communication, a kind of international baby tool
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Ya i think Babies do have their own way of communicating with each other when they are young..its just that we could not understand what they are saying as our level of communitcation is higher then of babies. Because they body parts are slowly developing.....
I'm fixing to have a baby, and I think they actually do speak something of their own language. I have two friends that have children, one has a 2 year old and the other has a 1 year old. They can be babbling back and forth and seem to be communicating in their own language. What's funny is they both seem to understand each other completely!
I think it's interesting, though my theory is that they come up with this language by trying to simulate the one they hear around them most frequently. It's something I think derives from our instincts and evolutionary development (by evolutionary i mean simply change over time, not monkey's turning into humans or something like that).
I think it's interesting, though my theory is that they come up with this language by trying to simulate the one they hear around them most frequently. It's something I think derives from our instincts and evolutionary development (by evolutionary i mean simply change over time, not monkey's turning into humans or something like that).
I asked a friend, a recent mother, about this. She said yes, baby's have their own language, and what's more, she could 'speak' it too.
She demonstrated this too, and I came away convinced.
Who says language has to be verbal?
She demonstrated this too, and I came away convinced.
Who says language has to be verbal?
I think babies can be verbal or less-verbal people from the outset--a difference in their genes and environment that entices them to interact in different ways, but I think that they are attempting to develop the language that is spoken most around them--otherwise there would be instances were babies never transferred over to the dominate language-just like there are examples in every country of adults who have not assimilated vary much into the dominate culture
i really think they are speaking our own language (baby saying "hey dirtbag that's my bottle!" = dadada gogo gaga). it's just that their tongues were still not that developed to shape the sound.
Chomsky demonstrated years ago that infants have a 'hard-wired' section of the brain which is designed for language acquisition. I don't think there is much serious doubt about this in professional circles (ie Linguists and Neuro-scientists). Obviously it's way out of my field so I'm only going on the reading of Chomsy that I have done, and if any linguistics people want to correct me then please do.
Now, given that Chomskyan analysis is correct then it could theoretically be possible that babies first pick-up a sort of 'meta' version of spoken language, but I think it is extremely unlikely. It would inevitably involve different 'connections' in the neural circuitry and make the primary circuit less efficient than it could be and this would be evolutionary suicide since the baby would gain no survival advantage from being able to chunner to other babies, and would certainly loose out by taking longer to learn the language which it DOES need to survive - the one the parent uses.
As always, never say never, but I say very very unlikely.
Regards
Chris
Now, given that Chomskyan analysis is correct then it could theoretically be possible that babies first pick-up a sort of 'meta' version of spoken language, but I think it is extremely unlikely. It would inevitably involve different 'connections' in the neural circuitry and make the primary circuit less efficient than it could be and this would be evolutionary suicide since the baby would gain no survival advantage from being able to chunner to other babies, and would certainly loose out by taking longer to learn the language which it DOES need to survive - the one the parent uses.
As always, never say never, but I say very very unlikely.
Regards
Chris
Yup...i think babies r talking in their language...coz sometimes when i talk or call my younger brother,who is juz oli 1 year old....he smile to me and talk somthing i cant understand....so...i think babies r talking in thier language and they knew our language too....
when i was really young(around 2 and a half years) i remembered my little sis saying her first word.. and my parents were jumping up and down in happiness or something but i found it enormously strange since we'd always been communicating before she'd grasped english.. so i'd say yes. babies do know what they are saying to each other
i doubt its a distinct spoken language. maybe body language....i dunno
babies have keen observation.. than its ability to play it back..
so, Babies can communicate though the communication is imperfect .. the observation.. makes the communication work..
so, Babies can communicate though the communication is imperfect .. the observation.. makes the communication work..
I think they do talk, or communicate in someway that we don't understand, but other babies, and sometimes even young kids, do.
When I see a baby when I was young, they're always more attracted to me than my parents. And I wasn't even playing with them.
When I see a baby when I was young, they're always more attracted to me than my parents. And I wasn't even playing with them.
I don’t think that babies have some sort of language but I believe that they can understand (in some way) or feel what you are saying to them. They certainly try to say something using some signs and to show how they feel and what they need but I don’t believe it some language. Well, maybe you can call it that way but it’s deferent for each of them.
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