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Goth?





Brakdûr
Anyone?

I mean who of you would consider himself as a GOTH? I am one. So come on and tell me if you are...

Greetings
Yantaal
wtf?

what is this post achieving exactly?
Brakdûr
Maybe you should ask a more precise. What is it you donīt understand? Donīt you know what Goth is (or better are)? Then just skip this post, or donīt you know what to answer? Then skip it as well.
If you are interested in dfferent lifestyles, then please ask!

Greetings
Rosanova
As some artists said in the beginning of the 80' "Punk is not dead", would I just say that it had been reborn into Goth, as the original Goth became from some other part. So Goth as a lifestyle is only something about to be nasty, and perhaps a little kinky.

Nothing wrong with Goth, it only depence how you treat it.

H.P. Lovecraft was the founder of modern Goth.

Cheers!

Sorry! "Death" has been changed into "Dead"
Brakdûr
Everybody knows that Gotic came from Punk. So thjere is no arguing about. But I can't see the point of Goth beeing "Nasty" and "kinky". This seems to be a misunderstanding. E.g. Manson is Goth but he isnīt the only one. he is just one part of the puzzle, there are many other streams...
I mean Gothic lifestyle, Goth as a kind of attitude....

Greets
Rosanova
Brakdûr wrote:
Everybody knows that Gotic came from Punk. So thjere is no arguing about. But I can't see the point of Goth beeing "Nasty" and "kinky". This seems to be a misunderstanding. E.g. Manson is Goth but he isnīt the only one. he is just one part of the puzzle, there are many other streams...
I mean Gothic lifestyle, Goth as a kind of attitude....

Greets


What I mean with that Goth is kinky or nasty, isn't meant to blame it's name. But what I meant about it is that Sex is also an important part of the Goth Culture, and many has some kind of SM influrence. And with that would I mean that Sex is included, as well as a part of satanic attitude is there too.

Cheers!
Konimaka
i listen to gothic music, but i wouldn;t call myself a goth..
Brakdûr
Rosanova wrote:
What I mean with that Goth is kinky or nasty, isn't meant to blame it's name. But what I meant about it is that Sex is also an important part of the Goth Culture, and many has some kind of SM influrence. And with that would I mean that Sex is included, as well as a part of satanic attitude is there too.


I see, you donīt know anything about Goth. Sex is a part of everything, in some sense, or another. And in Goth culture as well as in "normal" culture. There isnīt mor or less sex in the "Community".

But I canīt follow you when you are saying that there is a "satanic attitude", which isnīt. There is no satanic attitude. What do you mean by this? how have you build your opinion?

Greets
Bernard
Rosanova wrote:
As some artists said in the beginning of the 80' "Punk is not death",
...
H.P. Lovecraft was the founder of modern Goth.
Cheers!

What's that 80' "Punk is not death" and since when Punk was death? I remember something like 70's "No Future" that was Punk but I don't remind anything about death. Perhaps you wanted write "Punk's Not Dead"?

That HPL thing is funny, seems to make a lot of sense even if I doubt HPL never did any music nor wear any Goth stuff during his whole life. Cool
Bernard
Brakdûr wrote:
... But I canīt follow you when you are saying that there is a "satanic attitude", which isnīt. There is no satanic attitude. What do you mean by this? how have you build your opinion?
Greets

A lot of people not really knowing Goth from inside or in deep think that's a satanic attitude because a lot of satanic symbols are used. I'm not a Satan specialist so I should wrote ...because they think a lot of symbol used by Goth are satanic. Very Happy
nakamaru
OMG I am so a goth. I slit my writs like two times today. My life is horrible. I had to do homework the other day because my parents made me. Life is SO horrible I mean why do my parents try to take control like this. My life is so horrible compared to those kids who have to do nothing but work in sweat shops and get a half a meal a day. They are just stupid. People just don't understand suffering and depression like I do. OMG I'm gonna go slit my writs again so I have to stop typing now. Maybe I'll go put some more makeup on and go wine like a little girl to my goth friends while listening to shitty music.
Lorelay
My doughter was a goth style not long ago, I think she is still a goth style even she's blond now, but she is more Punk-Rock.
But I don't understend her black-black eyes and pircings...Why Goth style is always full of that?
Brakdûr
Lorelay wrote:
My doughter was a goth style not long ago, I think she is still a goth style even she's blond now, but she is more Punk-Rock.
But I don't understend her black-black eyes and pircings...Why Goth style is always full of that?


Full of what? Piercing? It isnīt. Piercings arenīt focused on a lifestyle. And they arenīt more related to goth as other things. Smile

Goths can be fun^^

Greets
Helios
Gothic means Medieval.

I can't see why 'Goths' are all dressed up black and stick metallic stuff up their noses and ears.
I mean, if they really are attracted to Medieval times(nothing bad about collecting swords and stuff like that) they could also dress up accordingly:
http://images.google.co.il/images?q=medieval&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&percentage_served=100&sa=N&tab=wi

Can someone explain?
Brakdûr
Helios wrote:
Gothic means Medieval.


If you would like to have a look at wikipedia.org

There is the first hit with Goth, not the "Gothic Age. Itīs the Gothic subcultire

Quote:
I can't see why 'Goths' are all dressed up black and stick metallic stuff up their noses and ears.


This isnīt quite correct. Not all Goth's are wearing black, nor is it essential to have metal "Stuffed up their nose and ears", as I already said in my statement above!

Quote:
I mean, if they really are attracted to Medieval times(nothing bad about collecting swords and stuff like that) they could also dress up accordingly:
http://images.google.co.il/images?q=medieval&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&percentage_served=100&sa=N&tab=wi

Can someone explain?


Iīm trying to Smile But iīs hard. As I said above Goth has nothing to do with "mediaveal". BUt maybe you would like to read the Wikipedia, to have a base to discuss on.

Greets
meaniegeanies
I agree with Konimaka. I enjoy listening to the music but I am not a Goth.
TheMentor
i m not a Goth

but i love listen to them

rhapsody is better i think
Marston
Goth = lame.
Twikki
There is no Goth

Goth is merely a describing word meaning dark
Rosanova
Brakdûr wrote:
Rosanova wrote:
What I mean with that Goth is kinky or nasty, isn't meant to blame it's name. But what I meant about it is that Sex is also an important part of the Goth Culture, and many has some kind of SM influrence. And with that would I mean that Sex is included, as well as a part of satanic attitude is there too.


I see, you donīt know anything about Goth. Sex is a part of everything, in some sense, or another. And in Goth culture as well as in "normal" culture. There isnīt mor or less sex in the "Community".

But I canīt follow you when you are saying that there is a "satanic attitude", which isnīt. There is no satanic attitude. What do you mean by this? how have you build your opinion?

Greets


You might right if you say that I don't know much about Goth, but in matter of fact do I know a lot about sub-cultures, where I mean that Goth also belongs to. About satanic attetude, you did said by yourself that Manson is Goth, how would you explain that he hasn't anything with satanic attetude to do. Was Antichrist Superstar an christian manifest?

Cheers!
kazoe
Rolling Eyes please.

Brakdûr had posted it in the music category so he's about goth rock. or goth metal. or the contemporary goth music they consider nowaday. Do not mistake it for anything like the 'Gothic' period of art or architecture or whatever era it did appear. Else it should be posted in a different forum.

anyway if your asking about goth rock like listening to Bauhaus(and again, this is a band, do not mistake this on the architecture group) and such... hmm... well i do not admit being one. Wink :p
Shewolf
I'm gothic, but not goth... I am goth in my way of thinking, and viewing the world, though I'm not really goth. I know this sounds quite caotish, but that's the fact...
Nick87
There has been some great 'Goth' music in the early 80's mostly labeled new wave, batcave, x wave, dark wave, death rock. Stuff like Joy Division, Sisters of Mercy, Siouxsie & The Banshees, Skeletal Family, The Cure, The Swans, Bauhaus, The Cramps etc. etc. Great stuff.
I do not like the modern 'Goth' style, I think it looks cheap and ugly. Especially those nasty gothic dressed and the butt ugly marilyn manson shirts they are all wearing. The spiked bracelets are ugly and the obscene big noserings are the worst.
pagan_prota
Brakdûr wrote:
Anyone?

I mean who of you would consider himself as a GOTH? I am one. So come on and tell me if you are...

Greetings


Real goth (tm) does not have the urge to present him/her in such manner.
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