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evolutionsethead
i have recently watched a geographical document that says there was one species of ape that started the chain of evolution and it said that the evolutional chain was not as simple as thought and that neanderthols co-existed with modern day humans and many other human species could it be that we won the test of time or we were just meant for greatness?
 Lennon
Well I didn't know there were any neanderthal men found yet, just in theory.
I'll have to do some research, thanks bud. DoctorBeaver
Visit Suffolk. There are plenty of Neanderthals here!  Lennon
Send me a reference. There's been so many found, especially africa, and so many proven as hoaxes.
samhaudino
Wouldn't it be funny if all the reptiles grew feathers then wings and turned into birds?
I was do a research about dinosaur and it turned out that many scientist think that they turned into birds... altec
Everything is theory. Although it certainly makes sense, however, I've yet to see an animal evolve into something different from it's former state.
No evidence yet, no cigar. r_y_e_20
I cant imagine we humans came from apes. geez. So whats next with the evolution theory? Human race? then whats next? hey do i have some wings now? I do believe what the Bible says. God bless to all.
Gieter
Yup, Homo Sapiens (or is it Homo Sapiens Sapiens) co-existed with the Neanderthaler. And we won over them, although they were much bigger and stronger. One theory is that because they were too specialized (they knew how to survive in one area) and the Homo Sapiens (Sapiens) was/is a generalist, who knows how to survive in different environments. It's possible that there have been crossings between Neanderthalers and Homo Sapiens/Sapiens. Gieter
Can't you imagine it? I can't image we don't come from apes. If you look at an ape, you'll really see lots of similarities. And as I read your post, I can't really conclude that you know enough about the evolution theory to conclude it can't be true. Maybe you should read a book about it? r_y_e_20
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To the starter of this post: Think about what you said then say gee isnt that rhetorical. Well for your question is hypothetically correct. Humans co-existed with neanderthals because we evolved severall times till the cromagnum status humanoid and became just know a humans or homoerectus. Further more the only explanation is that we adapted and they did not and it is possible that we might not adapt and fail and a new lifeform or species will take our place and make a new food chain consisting with them on the top.
We werent meant to pwn the earth with that we were made in gods image crap. People in the bible guessed on the whole idea of a day ok so who set the day back then.. This raises another question if god created man in a day then man created the day and therefore no one can real know what a day is and just saying that the day ends a sundown isnt enough. Welll overalll i think your questioned sucked and i hope this helps people understand the broader idea of evolution not just the we are better than you thing. Gieter
I understand British were really warfreak. They even bull kids in Iraq.[/quote] This has nothing to do with this thread. Quality posting! Actually, it's an insider. Won't tell it, but it's quite funny. So please don't judge me on the signature I use! (British Fighters Mentality is a clan of a friend of mine. Got it?) AftershockVibe
If you believe the Bible in a literal sense then that's your opinion. You have to wonder why God would bother placing dinosaur fossils though. How do you account for that? Wings are of no survival value to humans so no, that wouldn't happen. Evolution is survival of the fittest, if all the people who couldn't fly were more likely to die only then would it become possible. I don't see how you can dismiss evolution without some idea of what the theory is. A lot of us sciencey-types could also do to remember that evolution and religion ARE NOT mutually exclusive. The majority of Christians I know fully accept evolution. I fail to see why a God couldn't choose/allow evolution as a mechanism for life. Also I'd like to say I'm a Brit who marched in protest against the Iraq war. Therefore: Shut Up. paul_indo
I thought this was about evolution not christianity?
Evolution or not is the issue I thought, Who said it had to be the christian god who created things. Discounting the bible does not mutually discount creation.
Wow, if a huge African Lion was chasing me I think wings would be very useful. In fact as early mankind were for the majority hunters I think, evolutionarily speaking, wings would have been one of my priorities, if I could grow them.
correct, just as belief in creation does not specificaly imply christian belief. One thing I always see in the arguement over evolution is that it almost always takes christian creationism as it's oponent and if it can discredit that then evolution has won. This is simply not a scientific attitude to the problem. There is no solid evidence for either theory we can only form opinions based on our evaluation of the probability of certain events. That in itself is enough to convince me that evolution is unlikely. If you believe in evolution that's fine, you may be right, but you can't prove it. And don't say read a book, I have done that before and all I can say it that the issue is very inconclusive. What would be interested in is any solid evidence of evolution. I am quite ready to change my opinion if I can find the evidence to justify it. Another interesting thing for those who believe whe evolved from monkeys, why are we geneticaly closer to pigs if we are directly related to monkeys? AftershockVibe
You're right Paul evolution or not should really be the question. Often though "because the Bible says otherwise" is an argument against it. I didn't mean imply that belief in creation implied you were a christian, I was merely responding to a poster above who was quoting that exact argument.
Heh, on the wings debate... admittedly they'd be useful for flying away from lions but remember evolution is about adaption so you'd need to gradually change into fully functional wings. Wouldn't fully functional arms and opposable thumbs for making weapons have greater survival value? There is actually a lot of evidence of evolution, however it tends to be on a small scale - smaller animals and smaller time scales. As far as I'm aware no-one has found a direct link from humans to apes but considering that, if it did happen, we must have branched on the evolutionary tree millions of years ago you can appreciate how hard that would be to prove conclusively. The basis of the theory is on the small populations I mentioned earlier. A often quoted example is from Dartmouth (I believe?) in England where a species of white moth prevalent all over the UK became a different colour due to environmental pressures. A forest where these creatures lived was next to a coal power station which coated the trees in ash. Obviously the white moths on the trees were incredibly obvious to predators so the brightest got eaten very quickly. As this continued, darker white moths were only left to breed so that now the population is now entirely grey moths which are much better camoflagued. A human example is in Africa where a condition called sickle cell anemia (meaning you have odd shaped blood cells) is prevalent. Usually, this disorder is bad because it means less oxygen can be carried in the blood and stops it clotting so well. However, malaria - which kills if not medicated - cannot infect sickle-shaped blood cells so a large contingent of the population now has sickle cell anemia for the simple reason that the "normal" guys are more likely to die from malaria. If changes like this can occur in the short term, I fail to see why this process cannot continue for the long term giving a larger amount of variety and over millions of years lead to species very different to how they started out. anwartheravian
Well I think that all we know today about evolution is just based on theories, in which every theory is contradicting the other,So we should take some guidence for this from our religion.
Electricat
If you look at a human embryo and a bird embryo and any other vertabre embreyo you'll notice the startaling simularity.
All creatures start from one cell, all split into two and so on... once you have enough cells to acheive any type of complexity you can start having variations... but you don't. All vertabre have the same amount of vertabre, from frogs to girafes. All mamals have the same series of organs in their digestive tracts. If it's not evolution, god must have a very poor imagination... essentialmedia
You're kidding right? There have been numerous Neanderthal specimens found and quite some time ago. essentialmedia
Religion? Why would we take guidance from something that is a form of social control and itself cannot be proven. You are suggesting we believe magic and the supernatural over evidence that we can plainly see. That my friend is what we call insanity. Everything is a theory but at least scientific theories can prove or disprove things, religion can be neither proven or disproven and even a simple understanding of humanity makes it very obvious that religion is just a coping mechanism for the weak. If you really have to have a "Reason" for waking up in the morning then you need to revamp your life and try something new. Biology let you wake up this morning, not god. Don't be naive and live by rules made up in a piece of fiction (insert any religous text name here). Live life by the rules of decency and respect. Wake up and smell reality. You are amino acids, you are water, you are carbon. Just live life and enjoy yourself, quite being a slave. Mithrandir
Here's a neat article that touches on the subject:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1181641,00.html?cnn=yes I personally am a Roman Catholic and although my church asks me to believe in the biblical story of creation, my science and logic tells me that evolution must be fact. The evidence proves Darwin's theories to be all but dead certain. Related topics
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