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Whats your views on alcohol?





Slammer
Im 17, next year i can legally start drinking (UK). But i doubt it will lol, ive never drank so far, and neither has my girlfriend, we've both tried it at family things nstuff, and didnt like it. We both agree there isnt really much point in it, waste your money to get wasted and then forget it all by the next day. I dont even mean like going out to get drunk. I dont really see the point of it...ever loll.

Some people say it relax's them, i dont need it to relax me, i can relax in other ways. All in all, i dont see the point in drinking. Dont flame me for saying it, its my opinion and i want to know all of yours! Everyones told me, oh just wait till your older then you'll wanna drink. But i really dont see myself doing it. (Btw, im not a wee stuck up person thats all like tea total. I just dont thnk its really needed).


Share your opinion!
Jeslyn
I've always been truly disgusted with people who drink soley to get drunk, and seeing as how I'm college at the moment - there are a lot of people who do that. It's a waste of brain cells.

I'm not a drinker, the most I've ever drank in a year is maybe twice, and it was wine both times.
Tasukii
I don't like people who claim themselves are drinker neither the people who say that if you don't drink you are uncool. I like to drink because it's a little pleasure for me, when we have a party or something like that. But i never drink too much or to make myself drunk.
Anyway, I don't flame the drinkers, you do whatever you want but if you drink too much, that can be a drug like cigarettes.
Raffles
I'm not a drinker either. Was out clubbing (ABC, Glasgow) last night, and only had about 3 bottes of beer in the place.

Alcohol, basically, is a waste of money, and people who drink to get drunk have a problem, aspecially if they do this at home, by themselves. People who drink stuff despite not actually likeing it are veven worse! Also, people who fall asleep when they get drunk, and yet get in this state at the weekends, really annoy me. It's just selfish, making themselves a burden on their frinds who feel they need to keep an eye on them. People should know their limits!

And Breath...

Yet, I love whiskey! It's the water of life!...

R
mschnell
Yah, if you don't feel like drinking, don't do it. If you do, then try it. Moderation is key. Just be safe:)
Helios
I feel that it's OK to drink on family events, but it is not OK to get wasted and then end up an alcoholist.

I believe that a glass of wine should just spice things up, not ruin your life later.
FlyingBurrito4
I haven't yet because I'm only 18, but I don't see a problem if you're 21 and pop open a beer while watching a game or something. It's when you drink just to get drunk and do it every night which is stupid IMO.
Jack_Hammer
Drink is drink, nowthing wrong with occasionally wanting to get drunk, getting drunk and becoming a **** often is something that is very bad. I personally think that in america you have a bigger problem as by some people it is idolised becuase the drinking age is 21, and I remember when I was 13-16 I thought alcohol was cool, and it was great that I could drink it, because I was underage. Now I am old enough I realise that there is nothing special about alcohol a beer is nice, but thats about it, the only reason i really drunk was becuase it was forbidden and that was the main attraction. I also do get drunk sometimes, when I feel like it but they are often for one reason or another, which everybody goes through.
SunburnedCactus
I don't have a problem with drinking, and I see no reason why people who want to drink shouldn't do so. Obviously moderation is important otherwise you will end up as a drunken fool, but I enjoy a good drink whenever necessary. Not that I get a lot of occasions to do so at the moment, being up early every morning makes it a little difficult.
Liu
I'm 21 and in college. Drinking to get a good buzz is great imo. My mood lightens up and i'm much more relaxed. I do it on occasion each weekend after a long week of school and work. Some good mexican food, a margarita, and my girlfriend sitting across from me never fails to cheer me up.

However, getting wasted is another story, unless your idea of a good time is sailing the 7 seas.
Soulfire
I tasted it and thought it was the most disgusting thing. So I probably won't drink hardly at all. I don't like the fact that at my high school, drinking is a HUGE problem. The teachers know it, the coaches know it, even the prinicipal knows it - yet none of them do anything. One cheerleader got caught for minor in possession and all she did was sit out for like 1 game.

The school just doesn't care if they're drinking, smoking, out having sex, whatever... So long as they come to school and make practices. It's a shame really, and the only reason everyone does it is because the "cool" kids do it and you have to drink to be "popular." We've already lost 5 students this year though, all to auto accidents, but luckily drinking hasn't been a factor in any of them... I hope it never is, I hope things like that end.

My impression of alcohol is VERY VERY bad indeed.
David_Pardy
Getting drunk is the most pointless social exercise on the face of the planet.

I am going to say straight out that people who drink to get drunk are complete idiots. It's that simple. Why waste your money and your body on doing something which you won't remember the next day? And what for? A hangover, possibly an STD, getting into a car accident or falling off a building or something. I have a friend who woke up with a broken arm because she jumped off her roof while drunk and she didn't remember it happening.

There's nothing wrong with having an odd drink to relax or to enjoy the taste - drinking in such a fashion that you retain your senses and can still control your speech and manners (albeit with maybe a small relaxation of your timidity).

Getting drunk is NOT 'cool' and never will be. If getting drunk was cool then tell that to all the families in the world which have been destroyed or broken apart because of alcohol abuse.

You drunkards make me sick.



Love from David
Vrythramax
It's an individuals right to drink if he or she wants to. It's funny how something as dangerous as alcohol is legal and "socially acceptable", but smoking a joint will get you arrested and give you a criminal record that will hound you all your life.

I have no love loss for a diehard drunk, but some people can handle a few drinks without becoming obnoxious...they are few and far between though.
CompactHaven
I'm 17 as well. I believe alcohol screws up your judgement. Although I've never really had it either, most people have basic education about it.
I also believe that if you drink and drive, you should have your car taken away.
As long as you aren't drinking all the time, or only to get drunk, I don't think there's much of a problem with it. Although I'm always dissapointed to see my friends doing this type of thing.
dac_nip
Its fine with me. just like what the moderator says, "moderation is the key" anything in excess is not good at all. Remember that there are health benefits in drinking alcohol. when people drink, it doesn't mean that they are going to get drunk and stuff. If you drink in the rigth time and the right place then there's nothing wrong with that. I am saying this because there are those who pass judgement on people who drink without considering their reasons. Think more carefully dudes.
Vrythramax
dac_nip wrote:
Its fine with me. just like what the moderator says, "moderation is the key" anything in excess is not good at all. Remember that there are health benefits in drinking alcohol. when people drink, it doesn't mean that they are going to get drunk and stuff. If you drink in the rigth time and the right place then there's nothing wrong with that. I am saying this because there are those who pass judgement on people who drink without considering their reasons. Think more carefully dudes.


Very well said, but moderation becomes more difficult with the more you drink. It's viscious circle no matter how you look at it.
Xminor131
One beer just gives me a head ache. Three beers makes me smile and shrug off stress. Six beers makes me pee way too many times. Eight or more just gives me a head ache.

Whiskey? uhhhgggahhh
The last go round with the hard stuff left me paralized in my drive way (no I wasn't driving Shame on you) in a puddle of what had been my dinner with my wife cursing at me spraying me with a garden hose.
Raffles
Xminor131 wrote:

The last go round with the hard stuff left me paralized in my drive way (no I wasn't driving Shame on you) in a puddle of what had been my dinner with my cursing at me spraying me with a garden hose.


Sounds like you had too much, IMHO. Wink
Lennon
Alcohol is a drug, just like medicine or toxic drugs. It has a limit, and if you overdose you could kill yourself. There are side effects, there are good effects of alcohol. Just be conscious of all these and with some balance it should be fine (and of course, it feels great Razz )
alja
Jack_Hammer wrote:
the only reason I really drunk was because it was forbidden and that was the main attraction.
I think this is all about it when you are young, after you cross that age it loses importance. Now the problem is when you are through this age having troubles at home, school etc. Many people see alcohol as a way out, since, like drugs alcohol make you lose conscience and "forget" there is when the problems start. But we cannot forget that not everybody has the same strength to face problems.
SgtGarcia
Some parties require some alcohol to get things really going. Some people just wont dance without some alcohol in their blood. I live in holland and go to parties regularly. Some people just cant stop drinking and thats a bit annoying. Some people are just so drunk they cant walk are talk.
Some alcohol isnt to bad, but just keep some limit.
Alan S
I'm 13 and i have tryed alcohol, i just had a sip and didnt really like it........to me that Was just to see if i liked it..........i Wont be trying again too soon
bdoneck
I don't belive that governments have the right to control people from drinking alcohol. It's not right to say that you can kill yourself with fat fried food but you cant drink alcohol. It should be up to someones parents and then when they are old enough in their parents view, up to them
carriage_return
Alcohol as always been a touchy topic for me. I don't have much problems with it, but quite a few people in my family are friends with him, and although I've never had to put up with their drunkness, it has been one of the reasons I've come to dislike it.

There are other reasons as well, of course. First of all, I don't quite like it, I usually drink to satisfy thirst (except for beverages) and I can't quite do that with alcohol. Second I don't like the side effects, and I'm not even talking about being drunk, I don't like the regular effects of a couple glasses (I'm a responsible driver and I know what little is needed to alter your perception somewhat) ... third, it costs too much and I don't think it's worth it. As all my points, the last one is completely subjective. If you drink, have fun and try not to drive .. if you don't, juices are really good ;).

carriage_return
cnnet
take a little drink is good for your healthy
while when you drink much
you'd fill sick
and after drink
you'd find you're the other one
soulman
little alcohol is good for healthy, but I cannot agree the people that sotting.

some people drink for "high", or "cool", but I think they are drink for "trouble".
hades9366
I enjoy a drink and occasionally I even enjoy getting a little drunk, of course as with everything moderation is the key. I don't enjoy being around people who can't handle their drink, you need to know your limits. Getting drunk once or twice and making an a#*! of themself I'll forgive but more than that and I consider it a problem.

Modern western society lacks any specific rituals to mark the passage into adulthood, especially for young men. The physical changes for women are often more pronounced. Teenage guys are left to try and prove themselves men while at the same time being engaged in heavy socialisation with a peer group as a means of identity formation. For a lot of teenagers, especially males, binge drinking is a rite of passage.

The problem is this kind of competitive drinking often translates into dangerous behaviour, as if teenage males weren't already prone enough to that, and can turn into alcoholism later in life. Alcoholism is an addiction, with its own unique list of symptoms, essentially no different from Heroin addiction or any other but that doesn't mean nobody should drink or enjoy alcohol. People get addicted to painkillers, should we ban aspirin?

As I get older I enjoy a glass of wine with dinner and I'm told it's even good for the heart but don't feel the need to prove anything to anyone.
Blaster
Eh i dont' know. I would have to say i want to be able to have an occasional drink. But i don't think i would ever want to get drunk. I dont' want to deal with hang overs and pukeing and all that. This is what i think of bear.

There are however stuff like rum and coke which is pretty good because of different flavors i.e vanilla rum. Having mixed drinks is what i would want.
Tasa
Even when I was doing the club thing I never drank. Even before I was conferted to a religion that says not to drink I never drank. I have tried to, but the idea of losing control is not something I like.
psycosquirrel
Drinking is okay in moderation. I'm 17 also, but I can't legally drink until I am 21 (I'm in the USA).
Vrythramax
I have read in this thread a few people saying that an occasional drink is actually good for you....is this a fact? If so how is it actually good for you? Forgive my ignorance here, but I didn't think there was really any good to drinking. I find it hard to believe that something that is the cause of so many deaths every year can be good for you in any way.

I have been known to be wrong though. Please enlighten me people.
Blaster
psycosquirrel wrote:
Drinking is okay in moderation. I'm 17 also, but I can't legally drink until I am 21 (I'm in the USA).
Yea the usa sucks when it comes to ages on things. Look at Irland, if you can get up on the stole you can drink. I want to leagly have a drink here.
hades9366
Some studies have shown that red wine contains antioxdants? or some such that thin the blood in a way similar to aspirin which in turn lowers the risk of heart disease.

Of course this benefit is outweighed by the damage that excessive drinking does to the body. A standard glass every day or two is considered the max to still be beneficial.
karysky
I enjoy having a drink once in a while. I am a social drinker: I never drink alone (oh actually, I did once, to relax and study, and it was a very enjoyable styding time).

I'm aware that, sometimes, I do get drunk. But I've never been drunk enough to feel sick the morning after. So I guess I know my limits.

I don't really enjoy alcohol though. I prefer to keep a cold head. I hate people who go out and the first thing they say when entering a bar is: "Tonight I get drunk!"

This is stupid, people who drink too much, too fast can die from an ethylic coma.

I say drink at your own speed, and your own taste, and drink a lot of water at the same time. Drinking water will help you not having a bad headache the morning after, and it will make you think during the evening about the total count of drinks you've had. Very Happy
OutlawSpirit
i used 2 drink a lil... harly ever tho.....

ive been drunk on spirits... so ive given them up 4 life
ive been drunk on beer... so ive given them up 4 life
ive been drunk on wine... so ive given them up 4 life...


for me its a one time experience.... and its not worth the feelin in the mornin for me to go spendin my money on..... n my girl dont drink either
SunburnedCactus
hades9366 wrote:
Some studies have shown that red wine contains antioxdants? or some such that thin the blood in a way similar to aspirin which in turn lowers the risk of heart disease.

Of course this benefit is outweighed by the damage that excessive drinking does to the body. A standard glass every day or two is considered the max to still be beneficial.


Ya, a recent study published in the Lancet (which I have usefully lost the link for) showed that there was in fact no benefit from drinking alcohol regularly. Although as you say, red wine has certain beneficial qualities, including being antibacterial in certain contexts.
karysky
Here's a pretty poem though :

When we drink, we get drunk.
When we get drunk, we fall asleep.
When we fall asleep, we commit no sins.
When we commit no sins, we go to Heaven.
So let's all get drunk, and go to Heaven.

Amen.
jveezy
I'm in college. I'm talking about people getting wasted like there's no tomorrow. I'm talking about waking up at 3 am because some guy just fell down the stairs and made a bunch of noise doing it.

I'm a prohibitionist. I believe that alcohol is a drug that really impairs judgement and leads to a lot of crime and overall destruction. Now I'm not naive enough to believe that one day we can ban alcohol, and I'm not really opposed to other people having a drink now and then. What really pisses me off is when people get wasted and have no idea what they're doing. Then they start breaking stuff and throwing stuff and screwing people left and right and wake up the next morning covered in vomit. The worst happens when they drive.

Sometimes people say they'll drink but they won't drive. But alcohol does impair judgement and I question whether some of these people will still be able to make that decision when they're intoxicated.

That's why I stay away from alcohol. Period.
Lennon
Blaster wrote:
psycosquirrel wrote:
Drinking is okay in moderation. I'm 17 also, but I can't legally drink until I am 21 (I'm in the USA).
Yea the usa sucks when it comes to ages on things. Look at Irland, if you can get up on the stole you can drink. I want to leagly have a drink here.


I'm Irish and that is not true...
Most alcohol-related deaths are due to excessive drinking or drink-driving or people who can't handle just a few pints.
hades9366
SunburnedCactus wrote:
Ya, a recent study published in the Lancet (which I have usefully lost the link for) showed that there was in fact no benefit from drinking alcohol regularly. Although as you say, red wine has certain beneficial qualities, including being antibacterial in certain contexts.


I'm never sure which of these studies to believe. There seems to be one to prove everything. Maybe it's a case of the nature of the question being asked by the researchers affecting the outcome?
ocelotweb
I've come to the realization that when I reach a milestone in my life where new doors open, I'm going to explore those doors. I hit 18 last month and went to the strip club, smoked, bought lottery tickets, went to an xxx store all that mess just because I can. When I hit 21 same goes for that. I'm going to get @#%*faced and maybe buy a gun in the process lol. I know I can buy a gun now but, I can't buy a pistol I don't think. I believe you have to be 21 in SC to buy a pistol which sucks Sad
seanooi
I don't dislike drinking, neither do i love drinking. I just drink on occasions, like functions.

Sometimes I just drink alone just for the fun of it. But everytime I drink, I limit myself to maybe 2-3 bottles, which isn't that bad, at least i don't get wasted. Laughing
nOScott
its ok if you do it once in a while unless its like wine ... but its the people who drink and drive that need to die
TeK
I think drinking without the intent to get drunk is ok. Those people who only drunk because they want to get drunk shouldn'gt be doing it because it is dangerous.
The drinking age in the US sucks. You can drive and have sex for years before you can drink... wtf? I like the drinking age back home in the Bahamas, which is 18.
Jayfarer
You dont' forget it all, unless you drink far, far, far too much.

Alcohol, despite tasting horrible, is simply there to remove your inhibitions and make socializing easier and more fun. Eventually you get drunk enough to the point where you don't mind the taste anymore. I think that's why I prefer harder liquors to beer: The sooner you get buzzed, the sooner you can stop drinking.

Of course, it's not necessary to have a good time.
gh0stface
You know what's funny? A lot of you advocates against alcohol will most likely change your tune once you reach college. I know some of my friends from back in high school who were strongly against alcohol then are now drink too.

Me, I started drinking although rarely in high school, but in college the atmosphere will change you. I've met a lot of new and good friends through drinking too.

I use to drink pretty much Wednesday's through Saturdays. Hehe, but now it's pretty most of the time I just indulge myself on Fridays and Saturdays.

On a positive note, drinking dark beers or red wines can be good for you if you do it moderately, such as once a day, since they DO contain antioxidants like someone above said which are good for you.
rightclickscott
As a drunken irish rocker gamer geek, I believe that there really isn't much that actually supports drinking, but it is fun to get wasted when there is nothing better to do! When it comes to the whole Irish drinking stereotype, I think what we've done is amazing. We united an entire country through alchohol. To quote Lewis Black, "There is no AA, because every meeting in Ireland is at the pub." Hell, me and girlfriend met on a similar ground, Hard Lemonade. All kidding aside, though, I don't condone excessive drinking. I grew up with an abusive father who did nothing but drink and do cocaine all the time. It didn't stop me from drinking, though. It just showed me how to do things right. Do I really want to grow up like this man? No. So, I drink when it's apropriate, and have stayed off of cocaine. I can't say much for some other things I may do in my "spare time," but drinking is alot like many other things we look towards as "a wreck to humanity." Used responsibly, it's really fun. Used the wrong way, it's incredibly dangerous. I think it's really bad that we don't have more of a warning than "Please Drink Responsibly." Well, that's my stance.
mobob
im 16, and i drink a little bit when i am with my friends, i really dont like to get drunk because i get angry and say mean things when i really dont mean it.
Jeslyn
gh0stface wrote:
You know what's funny? A lot of you advocates against alcohol will most likely change your tune once you reach college. I know some of my friends from back in high school who were strongly against alcohol then are now drink too.

Me, I started drinking although rarely in high school, but in college the atmosphere will change you. I've met a lot of new and good friends through drinking too.

I use to drink pretty much Wednesday's through Saturdays. Hehe, but now it's pretty most of the time I just indulge myself on Fridays and Saturdays.

On a positive note, drinking dark beers or red wines can be good for you if you do it moderately, such as once a day, since they DO contain antioxidants like someone above said which are good for you.


I doubt that, I'm in college now, and my posistion against obsessively drinking remains. If someone's approach with their ideas on drinking changes just because of being placed in a new enviornment, then perhaps they weren't that hardset to begin with.
mschnell
Jeslyn wrote:
gh0stface wrote:
You know what's funny? A lot of you advocates against alcohol will most likely change your tune once you reach college. I know some of my friends from back in high school who were strongly against alcohol then are now drink too.

Me, I started drinking although rarely in high school, but in college the atmosphere will change you. I've met a lot of new and good friends through drinking too.

I use to drink pretty much Wednesday's through Saturdays. Hehe, but now it's pretty most of the time I just indulge myself on Fridays and Saturdays.

On a positive note, drinking dark beers or red wines can be good for you if you do it moderately, such as once a day, since they DO contain antioxidants like someone above said which are good for you.


I doubt that, I'm in college now, and my posistion against obsessively drinking remains. If someone's approach with their ideas on drinking changes just because of being placed in a new enviornment, then perhaps they weren't that hardset to begin with.


I always thought what you thought, Jeslyn, but I was the kid he's discribing. I did nothing remotely illegal in high school. When I got to college things changed. First, finding new friends who didn't drink proved to be quite impossible. Second, going out with my friends and not drinking was very difficult. I would always get asked and when I said I didn't drink I would get persecuted for it. You can stay strong for a while, but when you aren't doing well socialy, most people bend before they break. My school is a pretty big drinking school, so maybe that's part of it.
heady233
Never drink. You could die, get yellow teeth, have bad breath, and people will hate you.
mschnell
heady233 wrote:
Never drink. You could die, get yellow teeth, have bad breath, and people will hate you.


Never live. The above mentioned are likely to occur!
yuniq
I like drink sometimes, but only one glass.
That is enough for me to drink.

I hate drunk people. Smile
heady233
mschnell wrote:
heady233 wrote:
Never drink. You could die, get yellow teeth, have bad breath, and people will hate you.


Never live. The above mentioned are likely to occur!


Very funny. Wink
gh0stface
Jeslyn wrote:
gh0stface wrote:
You know what's funny? A lot of you advocates against alcohol will most likely change your tune once you reach college. I know some of my friends from back in high school who were strongly against alcohol then are now drink too.

Me, I started drinking although rarely in high school, but in college the atmosphere will change you. I've met a lot of new and good friends through drinking too.

I use to drink pretty much Wednesday's through Saturdays. Hehe, but now it's pretty most of the time I just indulge myself on Fridays and Saturdays.

On a positive note, drinking dark beers or red wines can be good for you if you do it moderately, such as once a day, since they DO contain antioxidants like someone above said which are good for you.


I doubt that, I'm in college now, and my posistion against obsessively drinking remains. If someone's approach with their ideas on drinking changes just because of being placed in a new enviornment, then perhaps they weren't that hardset to begin with.

I didn't say everyone will change, I just said most. Since majority of your peers WILL drink. It's more of a social pressure to try and fit in with the rest of the college kids. Legaly or illegaly. There are few and far that don't drink which is something I respect. However the niche for people who drink is a lot bigger then the ones that don't.
heady233 wrote:
You could die, get yellow teeth, have bad breath, and people will hate you.

And what are you talking about? We're talking about alcohol, not smoking cigarrettes :o
hobbes
Dont like alcohol? Smoke weed!
gail1367
Hi all

If you dont feel the need to drink then don't you sound like a very mature person for your age and that is very rare in this day.

I grew up with an alcholic father and brother who were very violent when they drank and that scared me.

I swore to myself that I would never be like that and therefore for many yrs I banned anysort of alchol in my house. My first wedding there was no alchol supplied you had to bring your own.

I have since mellowed out and relise that having alchol around does not turn me into an alcholic.

I have had a drink when I am with family and friends having a bbq at my house max 2 drinks.

If you dont feel the need to drink then dont do it you dont need a drink to have a good time.

Gail
David_Pardy
People who succumb to peer pressure.... Sigh.... It's so pathetic. People are too scared to be themselves for fear of not being accepted that they ignore their own standards and that is just weak.

My brother is the perfect example of someone who stands up for what he believes in. He recently moved into the country to attend a Film course at a University, and he makes it well known that he's a Christian and that he thinks people who get drunk are stupid. People RESEPCT him for it because he stands his ground and he gets along quite fine with everyone.

People who lower their standards because they succumb to pressure deserve to feel guilty about it for the rest of their lives. I know I feel like crap when I think about things I did when I gave in to peer pressure at school (drinking wasn't one of them) so adults should damn well know better.
denggi
People should drink only in moderation and only if they want to. If you don't then fine..The reason some people change their mind about drinking is that they were misinformed to begin with. Maybe they were taught that once a person drinks they turn into some kind of monster or shit. Not really true...Only those hardcore drunks.

I drank before I came to college, i'm still drinking while I'm here and i"m probably gonna continue. Thing is, I don't overdo it...so it's fine for me. Everyone should get seriously seriously drunk once till they puke all over themselves. Then they'll never do it again once they know the feeling of the morning after. Plus all the smell of the puke. Ughhh~
anurag
People may say "Drink is Drink"
Well my view is that Anything Good for health is good to be taken in small Amount
So small amount if taken is Good if taken as a Medicine or Health Drink then fine and not like Water!!

So Guys!! look for better Drinking Options like Milk , Cocunut Water , Butter Milk, Juices, They all are equally healthy and tasty!

Enjoy
Anurag Bhatia
gh0stface
David_Pardy wrote:
People who succumb to peer pressure.... Sigh.... It's so pathetic. People are too scared to be themselves for fear of not being accepted that they ignore their own standards and that is just weak.

My brother is the perfect example of someone who stands up for what he believes in. He recently moved into the country to attend a Film course at a University, and he makes it well known that he's a Christian and that he thinks people who get drunk are stupid. People RESEPCT him for it because he stands his ground and he gets along quite fine with everyone.

People who lower their standards because they succumb to pressure deserve to feel guilty about it for the rest of their lives. I know I feel like crap when I think about things I did when I gave in to peer pressure at school (drinking wasn't one of them) so adults should damn well know better.

Mmm... techincally, I guess I have succumbed to peer pressure, however I don't feel guilty about it. A lot of my best friends are people that I have met while drunk. So I guess with that point, I am pathetic. Although, I myself don't think so. It's pretty much a social norm especially in college. However, like I said, if you choose not to drink and stand for what you believe in, that IS admirable.

To each their own.
windrei
small amount each day, good to health and can lower the blood pressure.

large amount, damge to health , and damage to life too.

but i think some bars with light music are good place to visit.
nibor
man i dont even like the tast of alcohol and i am sure people who drink them dont actually like the tast, i mean if i can get drunk drinking orange juice i will do that but drinking something that doesnt tast good its just stupid
MonkeyWrench
you lot are morons, you get used to beer the more u drink it, its ok to have a few pints, its only seriously bad for you when you start drinking every day, a glass of wine a day is good and its proven.
sibbahz
I personally like an ocasional drink out with friends, sometimes get a bit drunk but not often, but i dont go getting completly drunk and not remembering what happened the day before.
Zombit
Alochol is fine as long as you drink it with your close friends and family. of course you shouldn't drink too much, and shouldn't drive afterwards and so on. but there is nothing wront with drinking. the problem starts when you drink on your own in a bar... and you are a girl... and you are 16... i dont need to tell you what can and will happen next. and that is not so good...
Davidgr1200
The alcohol companies wnat you to drink as they make a lot of money out of it. The government doesn't mind too much either because if you're out getting drunk then you are probably not trying to start a revolution. Alcohol is a pretty effective way of controlling the population - why do you think that Russia was known for its cheap vodka?
SunburnedCactus
MonkeyWrench wrote:
you lot are morons, you get used to beer the more u drink it, its ok to have a few pints, its only seriously bad for you when you start drinking every day, a glass of wine a day is good and its proven.


Proven through flawed evidence:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4491314.stm
immoralist
I don't drink because of peer pressure, I certainly don't drink for the good of my health and I don't drink to get off my head. I drink because I like the taste of several alcoholic beveridges (a decent Cabernet Sauvignion in particular, although I'm also partial to a good Czech lager) and I also like a feeling of mild intoxication.

In the same way that eating a decent meal is both an enjoyable experience and produces a sense of satisfaction, so does drinking. I find fat people obscene and I find drunk people boring. Moderation in everything does you no harm.
thiamshui
i havent drink before.. i dun tink it tastes nice though.. why risk getting your liver into trouble like liver failure, etc etc?
willowmoon
I celebrated my 21st birthday in September (legal drinking age in PA) and I was so excited. But honestly, it wasn't that great. I mean.. yea, I got drunk and all that.. but it's really not any different. You can go to a bar and drink as opposed to going to a bonfire or a party and drink. Personally, I'd rather go to a bonfire.. bars are over rated.. and pretty much, everyone in there is drinking to get drunk. I like to drink to be social and have a little fun.
nickdaegg
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CountX
Well, my father is an alcoholic. Him going on benches has led me to learn from him, and to know what to do and how to help people. I have drunken alot, even at my age. I otherwise wouldn't have been exposed to alcohol, if it werent for my father. I live alone wit him, so alot of respnsibility has to have been made, quickly. My mother lives a good 700 or so miles form where i do, so i had to kinda become the man of the house. If i had to make a decisoun, i would make it to whre certain tests have to be made, and a license has to be issued to a person in order for them to purchase alcohol. I think that would make my situation more scarce. Possibly eliminating it in some cases or areas. I think that the situation i was put in, was both wrong and uneccisary. I know that the government will problably will not let such an action as screening for licenses. As it is the main source of tax money for them. Possible raising the cost as they are doing with fags would help a bit. Who knows, it might make it to where people will try harder to quit.

My opinion or your situation is that you just stay away from it, but if you can handle yourself and know how to stop. Have a good feel of how much your body can handle, then go ahead.
ternoah
Slammer wrote:
Im 17, next year i can legally start drinking (UK). But i doubt it will lol, ive never drank so far, and neither has my girlfriend, we've both tried it at family things nstuff, and didnt like it. We both agree there isnt really much point in it, waste your money to get wasted and then forget it all by the next day. I dont even mean like going out to get drunk. I dont really see the point of it...ever loll.

Some people say it relax's them, i dont need it to relax me, i can relax in other ways. All in all, i dont see the point in drinking. Dont flame me for saying it, its my opinion and i want to know all of yours! Everyones told me, oh just wait till your older then you'll wanna drink. But i really dont see myself doing it. (Btw, im not a wee stuck up person thats all like tea total. I just dont thnk its really needed).


Share your opinion!


if you don't whant to drink i will be the last person to say that you must drink.

Also the main reason for drinking alcohol is not getting totally pissed so you forget the hole evening.

you drink it because you like it. Maybe to losen up a bit.

i'm sixteen i can drink legally in the Netherlands and the best thing is not to drink when you pusht by other people.
Garnet
Something about things that change a person's behaviour even slightly freak me out. I've never wanted to taste beer or anything, the interest just isn't there. I also don't believe in going to parties that need alcohol to get going - how fun could it be if you have to get drunk to enjoy it?
indianinworld
Usually people start-up with one thing Laughing and end up with every thing Sad .

When i say one thing, it may be starting on with Smoking or Drinking Alcohol. When i say everything, it will be Smoking, Drinking Alcohol, Doping, etc...

It is always better that you stop the basic things, so that u don't end up with all the things....

When i ask people " Why r u drinking?", I find many people quoting "I enjoy life and this Life is to enjoy".
But the fact always remains the same that it is just an illusion and an temporary enjoyment. Moreover there are a lot of ways through which people can relax and enjoy the life. But definitely, not this way.

Even History shows the slow and steady fall of people because of this temporary illusion.

Infact - Alcohol can be recommended as a Medicine sometimes but not all the times.

In my personal opinion - Don't take any alcoholic drinks. Cool

Bye for now...

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B.S.
Ziemas
Naaah. I don't drink too much. Only sometimes with my friends at party?
TonkPilz
Now days i usely drink coz i like it i uselly drink beer dark brewd beer thers noting that comes close to the taste of beer but beer, i rarelly get so drunk that i forget what happend, i uselly drink in till i get that buzz myfriends and i have started calling it the monkey walk its not coz you walk like a monkey its just that your gets vary losse feeling in your joints. i only hade a hangover 1 or 2 times tho i usely get somting calld shipmanslegs the day after i goten a bit drunk its when your legs are real heavy olmost as if thay whar a sleep.
dac_nip
ternoah wrote:

if you don't whant to drink i will be the last person to say that you must drink.

Also the main reason for drinking alcohol is not getting totally pissed so you forget the hole evening.

you drink it because you like it. Maybe to losen up a bit.


yeah you are rigth on the point dude. many people see drinking as a negative act. well its their opinio, we just need to respect it. Very Happy
kam311
When I was 21, i didn't know my limit, and i was scared to push it. I hate people who just try to get drunk. I enjoy alcohol myself, after a couple drinks i sometimes feel more relaxed...but that's it. My rule is no more than 2 drink in a day, which is usually once every week or so...i still don't drink very often, it's not a big deal. After 2 drinks i stop - even if i don't feel anything...i would hate to be responsible for something happening if i'm driving or doing anything else.
rightclickscott
I just realized something. You know the avatar I have up right now? That's the head portion of the picture, taken while I was passed out drunk on the couch, and one of my friends thought it would be funny to take a picture of me in all of my piss drunk "glory". The rest of the picture isn't my most pleasing of moments.

I know it's fairly stereotypical of my culture, but being Irish, I have a sort of spiritual affinity with my culture while I'm drinking.
roadskid
I think too many people confuse fun -- with alcohol. There are many other ways to have a goodtime. Aslong as your are a confident happy person, you can do anything Smile
roadskid
Yes, of course your parents and peers have a large impact on their children's decisions to drink. However, research clearly indicates that alcohol advertising and marketing also have a significant impact by influencing the attitudes of parents and peers and helping to create an environment that promotes underage drinking.
I was reading this statistics poll in a magazine at the hair dressers, the other day and it was say how a study of eighth-graders showed that those with greater exposure to alcohol advertisements in magazines, on television, and at sporting and music events were more aware of the advertising and more likely to remember the advertisements they had seen!![/b]
SunburnedCactus
roadskid wrote:
Yes, of course your parents and peers have a large impact on their children's decisions to drink. However, research clearly indicates that alcohol advertising and marketing also have a significant impact by influencing the attitudes of parents and peers and helping to create an environment that promotes underage drinking.
I was reading this statistics poll in a magazine at the hair dressers, the other day and it was say how a study of eighth-graders showed that those with greater exposure to alcohol advertisements in magazines, on television, and at sporting and music events were more aware of the advertising and more likely to remember the advertisements they had seen!![/b]


The same could be said of any type of advertising, be it fast food, alcohol or whatever other subversive product is on offer. Exposure to anything will lead to increased awareness.
chip1980
im only 13 so i cant drink but ive had a few beers now and then tastes like crap i dont no if i ever want to get drunk or smashed wen i grow up
ccarter24
I'm 27 and I've never drank before. I'm sure I'm missing out on anything wither. And with all the money I'm saving by not drinking, I can buy other essential stuff. Like twinkies.
PatTheGreat42
I only have one major opinion when it comes to alcohol. The first drink I'm gonna have is rum. 'Cause I'm a pirate.

Oh, and I figure you should never drink alone. If you're drinking alone, I figure that's a sign of alcoholism. If you're drinking with friends, I figure that's a sign of hanging out with friends.
misomichael
I've never been into the drink for the sake of drinking thing, but I do enjoy a nice glass of wine with some meals. I cook with alcohol far more than I drink it, as it can be quite versatile in its flavorings depending on what you use and how you use it.
dips0502
I drink. And recently now that i am not with my folks anymore i drink as and when i want. But i have always been someone who would drink with company and not just because i want to get drunk..Its nice to get drunk with friends.
MasterMind
By drinking alchohol, you destroy yourself. Alchohol is a poison for the body. And, did you know what? Alchohol releases more femenine hormones. Your hips get wider, your breasts get bigger. Alchohol drinking is way bad for your health.
Bengt
Drinking is no problem as long as you drink it with your brains Wink (if you undestand me Very Happy )
mae1strom
I say, DRINK UP! Very Happy
photographerguy
I'm Irish, so I like to get drunk and get into fights. I drank and did drugs very heavily from age 15-27. I had some of the best times of my life, no regrets. I did manage to lose my driver's license and get into other legal troubles. I was never addicted to anything, it's just something all of my friends and I did for fun. I haven't drank or done drugs in two years. I feel a heck of alot better. Alcohol isn't evil, it's just not for everybody. It is legal. My family has a history of heart problems, so quite a few (American) doctors have said that drinking 1-2 glasses of red wne a day is good for your heart. I don't agree that this is untrue. There are studies showing many different opinions on this.

I bartended at a couple of big clubs in Detroit for a few years. Sleeping all day, working at night, and partying with coworkers and people from the clubs until the next morning was very common. Alot of fun, but it got old. Most of the responses on this thread is "I've never been drunk" or "I only have 1 or 2". If you were from where I grew up, I would bet some of you were lying or in denial. I hope not. It sounds like most of you are under 20 years old. Your life is going to change drastically from high school to college to starting your career. You are going to make completely new groups of friends and change your attitudes about alot of things.

The moral of this story is - have fun, be careful, don't make the same mistakes I did. I learned the hard way. Life is good today. Thanks for reading this.
lisa33144
To put my view in context, I am an eighteen year old freshman in college in the U.S. So I am around teenage drinking a lot, but it is not legal. I personally don't drink. I don't see a point because I can relax and have fun in much cheaper and safer ways. It is pretty hard to avoid the drinking/party scene but there are some people that don't drink. I don't really have a problem with people drinking in moderation, but I hate how people think that they need to drink to have fun. I have some friends that drink 3-4 nights a week and it's a shock when a Thursday or weekend night goes by that they don't drink. Alcoholism scares me, so anyone even remotely dependant on the idea that they need to drink is scary.
penguinslayer
Drinking occassionally (Moderate drinking) is very much ok...But it hurt me to the core when I see some of my friends who drink just for the sake of it..or when they get bored.
I only drink when I meet some of my ol frnds or celebrate something.
Lennon
Being another Irish over 20 who's experienced the alco madness over here.
A typical night out is 4-5 units of alcohol, and for 18-25 yr olds nightclub as well. Nightclubbin involves shots of alcohol or really strong spirits (normally vodka or whiskey), and when you're feeling very merry you start having the craic. The more mature you are, the more you tend for a quiet night out, with less alcohol and more conversation.

Just don't let yourself be put under pressure for sticking on coke for the night. I tried just water for the night, to see how people would react and pressure me, and water all night is quite fun without anyone knowing it if they're on alcohol.

I really like Bacardi Breezers but they're expensive, and I also love Bulmers apple cider.
saiyeek
Alcohol is not bad until you maintain your limits. Limit is what counts. Even medicinal studies claims alcohol to some extent is good for health.
Drink alcohol, save water.... LOL Very Happy
prepkid
people drink ususally before the age...my cousin drank since his sophomore year or something (he was in korea, but he still wasn't old enough), and now he's senior- still drinking. he's not mad for it, though.

drinking is a lot better than smoking, which what a lot of men do in korea.
izimngcubes15
You have to be 21 in U.S. to drink, I think drinking is stupid. Whoever drinks....gosh, just relax another way, find another gosh, like sleeping, or hot spa, bath, or something, drinking is never the answer.
schu1162
[quote="Vrythramax"]It's an individuals right to drink if he or she wants to. It's funny how something as dangerous as alcohol is legal and "socially acceptable", but smoking a joint will get you arrested and give you a criminal record that will hound you all your life.

I could'nt agree with you more.

I personally like drinking, about once a month I like to go out with some of my friends, and just get wrecked. However, we do it responsibly (no driving). Also, we make an effort to avoid drinking with people who have negative reactions to excessive amounts of alchohol. We don't drink with people who get aggressive angry or obnoxious when drunk. My friends and I truly have a good time when we are drunk.

A wise man or woman once said "Say it LOUD, say it plowed"!
OnlyOneLife
I completely agree with "Slammer" [the thread starter] view point.
There is no point and you risk your life when you drive back home. It tastes bad and it's a waste of money and time. You could use the time for self development.
skank
my opinion on alcohol is really messed up. you'd think growing up with alcoholic parents would make someone have a strong negative view of it. i did for a while, and i took a straight-edge oath (straight-edge is a lifestyle, i guess you could call it, of no drinking, drugs, etc). but then last year i sort of grew out of it, and since then, picked up the tendencies to smoke out of my bedroom window and drink all my parents' champagne at family parties. i guess it's pretty hypocritical of me. i guess i think it's okay to drink, when it's NOT every night, and when it's for fun, not shelter.
Jaiye
Eh, I'm 19 (Ca, USA.) And for myself, social drinking is perfectly fine. I've only been really drunk less thena handful of time, and only passed out once: my first time trying alcohol. Since then I've known my limit and just used it to make the night a bit more fun. I like the taste of vodka, and some mixed drinks can make the game jenga a full night of entertainment. And beer pong is just fun for bragging rights against your friends.

I feel it's rediculous how restricted it is in the US vs other countries. like someone at the beginning said: the novelty of it is that it's illegal. If it were legal at a younger age and kids were taught to respect alcohol, everybody would be more responsible in general. The problem with doing that in the US now is that all the 16 years old would abuse it if the limit were lower, because in thier mind it would still be a sneaky thing to do because that's how they were raised.

Just don't be a drunk jerk and never drive while under the influence and everybody can live in peace with each other.
abhiworld
If you are just starting to drink, the biggest challenge you'd face is to manage the addiction.
People start with alcohol by choice, but soon it doesn't remain a choice. That's the thin line.
Twikki
To be honest im not bothered about Alcohol, I can drink it if I want as the legal age to drink alcohol in the UK is 5 (Suprising isn't it)
chunoslav
I always drink n drive
But i have been arrested many times, luckily i know many cops here in my town so i got nothing to worry
mogyoro
Alcohol is a very tricky bastard, it sneaks up from behind... I've been drinking with my buddy's from the age of 16 regularly. It really became a habit after a while to drink while we gone out... I stopped the madness some time ago but several friends of mine became alcoholics. I say smoke more grass then you drink... That is if you don't smoke every day Very Happy
superbyte
You may consider drinking as a supplement when you're not having fun for example in a club where you are listening some music that you don't like so much or you're with people that are not your party, then you drink some alcohol and then you feel happy.

Remember that alcohol will damage you if you don't stop before the limits and that if you feel happy without alcohol then you DO NOT NEED to drink at all.
Ray Gravin
When I was a teenager i used to drink a good bit. especially when I moved in with my dad for a year when I was 16 (my dads an alchoholic) I think that in america its used inapropriatly for the most part. Alot of Kids develop the wrong idea about it and use it to get drizzy. I felt like a rebel when I had to snick around to do it behind my moms back, but when I saw what it did to my dad I felt like an idiot. I never got as bad as my father about my drinking thank God.

I was always pretty good about not drinking so much that it made me missarable. I rarely got sick or got a hang over. I did go through a spell after i broke up with my last long term girlfreind were I was drinking to much. I think after the night I supposidly felt up my best freinds ankles and almost slept with a teenage girl and didnt remember any of it the next day I was inclined to stop. Im not sure exactly what it was I was drinking that night but I remember it tasting like gasoline smells : p

I can see drinking being productive for your health if you have like one glass of wine a day. Although like most things of that nature that are good for you its easier to use modern alternative methods. I dont drink anymore and hopefully I will keep it that way. I do however think that I was a fairly responsible drinker when I was a drinker. like anything in life moderation is key. For some reason though moderation is not the attitude taken towards alchohol in my culture.
crdowner
bdoneck wrote:
I don't belive that governments have the right to control people from drinking alcohol. It's not right to say that you can kill yourself with fat fried food but you cant drink alcohol.


Fried food does not slow reaction times and endanger the lives of others like alcohol can when a drunk gets behind the wheel of a car. I had an uncle who was an alcoholoic and I have several relatives who were badly injured after a head-on collision from a drunk driver. Two of these relatives still live with the after affects from the wreck even though it was 20 years ago.

I agree that drinking is moderation is fine but getting drunk is pretty stupid. And, those you get drunk and then drive should be put away.

I also agree that beer does not taste good. I have a glass of wine occassionally though.
dorn27
Drinking will cost you so much $cash$. I really don't understand why people do it. I've been real drunk a few times, kind of drunk a few more, and sober for about 99.9% of my life.

Why waste your money on things like that? Particularly since so you just rent the stuff? One way or another its coming out and going to damage during the process.

People who use alcohol are also more likely to get cancer (all types) than those who don't. And lets not forget about liver damage.
atin
Jeslyn wrote:
I've always been truly disgusted with people who drink soley to get drunk


Personally I would only drink alcohol in order to get drunk.


This 'soley' drink we must be really strong and if you are that disgusted by people who drink it.


Perhaps it is like drinking larger..
atin
dorn27 wrote:
Drinking will cost you so much $cash$


Everything will cost you cash in the end.

And we will all die sooner or later.

Preferably sooner if we can't get drunk at least once a week.
Dustin
Smart people typically dont drink, but i aint very smart so thats my excuse
atin
Dustin wrote:
Smart people typically dont drink, but i aint very smart so thats my excuse


nonsense, all the best brains love a scotch.
Rocky3478
To be blunt, my views on drinking are thus:

1. There isn't one good reason to drink, and there are countless reasons not too.

2. It's very bad for you. You might as well drink nitroglycerin and stand up and do jumping jacks.....

3. It's both legally and morally wrong, according to my worldview.
Jaiye
Rocky3478 wrote:
3. It's both legally and morally wrong, according to my worldview.


Legal has to do with the government of the land, not anybody's worldview. Regardless of what you think, if you're over 21 in the U.S. it is legal, period.
dreamgames
First, sorry for my english...i'm french!!
I'm 20 years old and i live in Maine et loire, which is the region that drinks most alcohol! I think that i shouldn't be proud of it but i am... Very Happy
I drink alcohol only for about 2 years, and i know most of my friend and people i know drink regullary since they are about 15,16...
I now that we can have some good times whithout alcohol, but with the time, it's like it is so natural to drink...but it's not.
Think about it before starting drinking...

PS : I'm not an alcoholic... Rolling Eyes
Teddyb1210
Two glasses of wine a day keeps the doctor away!
Teddyb1210
And its better to drink one or two glasses of alcohol a day than 30 glasses on a fridaynight
beetlejuice
In my opinion, you sometimes need a little alcohol to relax and have a good time. I know some persons who never drink and one that hasn't ever tried alcohol in his life, and those persons still have a good time when we go out. I admire and respect that.

As far as I'm concerned, however, I like to have a beer, a drink or a glass of wine now and then, and that is, as far as I see it, perfectly harmless. Like everything else, alcohol should be consumed with moderation.
fray bentos
David_Pardy wrote:
Getting drunk is the most pointless social exercise on the face of the planet.

I am going to say straight out that people who drink to get drunk are complete idiots. It's that simple. Why waste your money and your body on doing something which you won't remember the next day? And what for? A hangover, possibly an STD, getting into a car accident or falling off a building or something. I have a friend who woke up with a broken arm because she jumped off her roof while drunk and she didn't remember it happening.

There's nothing wrong with having an odd drink to relax or to enjoy the taste - drinking in such a fashion that you retain your senses and can still control your speech and manners (albeit with maybe a small relaxation of your timidity).

Getting drunk is NOT 'cool' and never will be. If getting drunk was cool then tell that to all the families in the world which have been destroyed or broken apart because of alcohol abuse.

You drunkards make me sick.



Love from David


I'd rather drink than smoke.

At least that way i have an element of control over who i'm killing.

Though i'd like to know what on earth a lot of you on this thread think drink does to you - as most of you sem to think that one whiff of the stuff and you immediately forget the next 8 hours.
Hobbad
Drinking is ok, the problem is the age at which we are allowed to drink and when we are allowed to drive is messed up.

The 21 limit is stupid, they don't know their limit so they're more likely to drive drunk when they don't know better to know they've had enough.

Teen have a high fatality rate in car crashes, and alot of that time they're drunk or under the influence of some kind.


What the Drinking age MAX should be: 16 <- you can drop out of school and get a job and drive, but you can't drink...legally. Doesn't mean alot DON'T.

REMEMBER: This is just legally buying. You don't have to if you don't want to.

What the Driving age should be: 18 <- you can die for your country and smoke but you can't drink...legally. Doesn't make alot of sense.
MikeRavenelle
I think if people are aloud to get drunk, pot should be legal. It is less harmful.

Just check out:

Weed Effects:

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_effects.shtml

Alcohol:

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/alcohol/alcohol_effects.shtml


-Mike
Ultima1080
That is true, but then if pot is legal, why aren't truly bad drugs legal, such as meth? I'm not saying I like meth. Far from it. Meth is a vile, evil drug and those that use it become slaves to it physically and mentally as their bodies crumble around them.

But I like booze every now and then Wink
idrather_not
I suppose I could see it go both ways.
I mean, it really does seem stupid to spend so much money on alcohol when you could be spending it on something that might be useful.
For example,

Let's say "Joe" spends about 20 dollars a week on alcohol.
Now, lets multiply that by 52 (which is the number of weeks in a year.)
$20 x 52 = $1040 a year.

Now, Sarah has a weekly party at her house and spends approx. 150 on booze, wine coolers, wine ect...
150 x 52 = 7800

Holy ****, you could be spending that money on other things. You're basically paying for a one time thing that has painful consequences such as memory loss, hangovers, potential car accidents, having sex/being raped by a complete stranger, and other terrible incidents.

On the other hand, there is that element of curiosity that makes you wonder...
People may say that alcohol relaxes them, but there is also a chemical in the alcohol that is a depressant. So, what people believe are making them feel better, are actually the opposite.

But whatever, I don't like alcohol. It's horrible and bitter.
If anything, SMIRNOFF for me!
zplitstonez
greetings to all of you...first i want to say sorry to offend some of you that loves to drink liquors, i didn't mean it, i don't want to offend you, and hurt your feelings, i know you will just ignore this, but lets be truthful to ourselves,
we know that there is no good thing that we can get in drinking liquors, the only thing we can get is quarrel and fight with our fellow drunkards, and we result to going to take a visit to our nearest police station...

Let us face it, that is the truth, all lot of people die everyday, because of liquors, my grandfather died because of drinking liquor also...liquors makes our lives on earth short. if you want to enjoy your life...STOP drinking liquors and see the change....

The bible also tells that there is no drunkard that will go to heaven....If you don't believe it, it's up to you. It is GOD you wrote the BIBLE.... It is our guide to live a better and happier life..GOD doesn't want us to suffer, he wants us to be happy, and live the life that he gave to the fullest of it...Don't lie to yourselves, accept and be truthful to it, it is for your own GOOD, i'm just concerned of your lives...you can do it...

YOU MUST CHANGE YOUR ATTITUDES...
IT IS NOT YET TO LATE TO CHANGE....


GOD bless and takecare... I hope i could inspire and help you through this message....
dezavelbank
i'm 19 now but here you can drink from age 16, when i was 15-16 i used to drink a lot of alcohol when i was going out and i was drunk almost every weekend but now i have a driving license and i'm always driving so i don't drink anymore sometimes i do drink but only 1 thing
muffinman
It may seem that alcohol is just simply a waste of money, but it actually helps many people relax and have a fun time. There is little risks if you follow the laws, and to many people, that relaxation only comes from alcohol, so it's not too much of a waste if you have self control. Many people these days can't live without a can of beer after work, etc. but it is accepted by most of the people.
Jaiye
zplitstonez wrote:
stuff...


Please, just stop. all this GOD BIBLE GOD GOOD is complete crap and a useless argument. I'd hate to break it to you, but if you ever actually had read the gospels, you would know that JESUS knows that there's a difference between social drinking and alcoholism. Jesus drank alcohol. Every single one of his diciples drank alcohol. Are you going to tell me that they're all going to hell?

I'm so sick of ignorant 'christians' (which you are being a good representative of) trying to tell people what they can or cannot do in thier life. Ever hear of having a 'personal' relationship with god or are you all about how stuff looks on the outside? You need to look up the social context and meaning of the word drunkard and then maybe you'll understand the purpose of that passage.
stinky321
Im 13 and i think that drinking aint bad. i think that if u want to drink u should be allowed. I have some good friends who drink 2, so i think theres nutin wrong with it. aint saying that im going to be a drinkin guy in the future Rolling Eyes
Deji
wtf since where when there other scottish people here?

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mstreet
I feel that this is a choice. But at the same time one should be responsible. Drinking and Driving DO NOT MIX. One that drinks to get drunk are only hurting themselves and it's just not cool.
otaku
I guess in moderation it's ok. But I would never touch the stuff myself. I've heard it tastes gross. (I'm only 14)

I wouldn't if I was you, but It's your life and your decision.
Nicola
I drink alcohol occasionally - at home I'll consume the odd alcoholic drink on a night (usually a glass of wine or beer, or a spirit mixed with a soft drink e.g. vodka and coke), but tend to drink more if I'm at a family or social gathering such as a party. Occasionally I've got drunk and regretted it afterwards, but that's never happened that often. I did go through a phase a few years ago of drinking to the point where I would get drunk and end up either making a fool of myself or being ill, but I put that down to being young and inexperienced (I was 18 at the time) and now feel I'm old enough to pace myself.

As for 13 and 14-year-olds drinking, I was never in that position as I started drinking socially at around 17, when being underage wasn't so much of a problem as I knew it wouldn't be long before it was legal.
Tune
That's my situation:
I'm 17, and exchange student from Germany. Now I'm in the US for a year. In Germany the drinking age for beer and wine is 16, although you drink everything when you turn 16 or even earlier. Now that I'm here, I have been sober for almost 7 months.
It's not just the alcohol I miss. It's the parties. under 18 you can't go to bars or to clubs, nowhere. This stinks.
I think alcohol is good as long as you don't exagurate. Some beer and a couple of shots, and youre fine.
I don't understand while the government is being so stubborn^^
idrather_not
muffinman wrote:
Many people these days can't live without a can of beer after work, etc. but it is accepted by most of the people.


That is utterly ridiculous.
People are not born thinking, "Oh, I think I need to drink today."
You are trained to think you "need" things like, "a smoke" or "a glass of whiskey."
And you see it everyday.
Most overweight men and women feel that they need just one more french fry.
Or anorexic men and women who feel that they need to lose just one more pound to be perfect.

We basically become programmed.
Well, **** that.
Winmitch
My view is that if your going to drink until you throw-up, be my guest, as long you don't throw-up on my carpet.

People you drink to get drunk are sad people, hardly living life, waking up with a hangover everyday, and generaly wasting away, because they belive that they need to drink.

The occasional wine, beer, ect. at a party is good and all, as long as you don't overdo it.

I don't like drinking at all, its disgusting, waste of time and money. I have a friend who drinks abit at parties though, but he doesn't drink outside that.
anilsarwal
It is surprising that so many people in the world don't give up their drinking habits even when it is scientifically proven to be harmful for one's health. Not only that a person addicted to drinking brings about a disgrace on his family and friends and at times ruins both. Those who are given to drinking cause their intelligence to pass away, their human nature to be perverted, their light to be changed, and their purity to be soiled. Alcohol, truly, leads the mind astray and causes the weakening of the body. Every intelligent person would definitely shun it.
stormybaka
"Pour me another drink!"

What do you think I think about booze?
bryntwr
I can drink when i am 18 i live int he Uk, getting drunk is there choice, leave them to it as long as they dont turn violent and turn on the crying its ok, but only very unoften, its worse to go out Bindge drinking every weekend than it is to be an alcoholic, in a way, you have more chance of quick death! Surprised
LaT1n
Hello,
Iv'e read almost all the opinion in here, thats an interesting subject because I have a friend (girl) that dont like drinkin.
That kinda anoying sometime because when we go out, (clubin', partys restorant...) we alway drink together and having fun (we are "NEVER" drunk) but drinking make you feel like... kinda less shy, or boosting your fun a little. so sometime we feel bad about her, because shes with us and looking having lesss fun... sometime (in bar/restorant particulary)

However, Personaly I like the taste of beer, even at home once or twice a week, i like to drink 1 beer on the evening, will watching TV or other hobby. btw.. its not every weeks but almost.

anyway, that was my little story
CamiBor
i'm too young, but anyway i think that drinking is good only if you know to stop after a little bit, not that i'm going to drink, but if someone wants to drink i think he may do it, but he should know when to stop/ but apperently not everyone know when to stop Rolling Eyes
anilsarwal
Most people feel relaxed when they are drinking. I think it is more of conditioning by advertisements and to some extent the values of our modern world.

Can we not enjoy ourselves as much as if not when in meditation or state of prayer.

It is interesting that most people feel guilty about drinking and yet they continue to drink. Drinking can lead to bad health but not meditation or prayers. But we don't see the obvisious. Or perhaps we don't want to.

In this age of science when we prefer to have a scientific attitude in everything, one fails to understand, why medical discoveries don't stop us from the dangers of drinking.

However, it's good to note that governments are increasingly imposing new prohibitions on smoking and drinking at least in public.

One hopes good sense will prevail in the end.
Bockman
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Bockman prepares to exorcise alcohol from Frihost.....

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Guys, let's think this over for a bit...

For some (most) of you guys, alcohol MAY have some damaging properties, as you are still groing up. This does not mean that you can't have one drink, as long as you know what you are doing.
When you are fully grown, alcohol has little or no effect when consumed with moderation. But this is exactly the same with everything else (ex: milk...).

In my country alcohol is a social habit and most ppl abuse it's use (btw, my nick comes from a beer). This does not mean that everyone here is a drunk or that we are drinking 24/7, but most ppl go out at night occasionally/regularly and have a drink (some have more than one).
I have regularly gone out at night on weekends/hollidays and i always drinked. I used to drink A LOT (something like 20+ vodkas per night) without getting drunk... and i thought, ok.. i'm not drunk, so it's OK.. OFC IT'S NOT!!!!!! i was starting (?) to have an addiction and ruining my health.
Fortunately i came to my senses in time to stop it and nowadays i drink moderately (wich is one or 2 drinks per night when i go out, and i don't go out so often). I like to have a drink with my friends and it feels great. Why should i be deprived of something that i like and that isn't harmfull for me or others?


So, to reach a conclusion.. let's not be hactic or fiercely against this kind of things.. As long as you know what you are doing and you do it with control, it's OK.

I know there are severall of you under the age of 18/21 (whatever minimum drinking age is set by your country) and i strongly recomend you guys NOT to break the law. if there is no minimum age set on your country, don't think you're any different from other youngsters around the world.. you are NOT fully grown b4 your 18 years of age and drinking may be harmfull, specially to your liver, brain and kidneys. The minimum age is there for a reason and it's meant to keep you from screwing up.

Be Well Cool

P.S. - This topic is about alcohol and not about cannabis. keep it on-topic. I also have my oppinion about that, but it has no place on this discussion.
rightclickscott
I'm still underaged, but that'll change in June.
Kael
I really have to say that I respect the fact that everyone has their own opinions.
I have always enjoyed drinking. Now I'm not a 'drunk' or an alcoholic mind you, I just simply enjoy drinking and always have.
Beer, for example ..... I don't really stick with one type, and I don't drink it just to get drunk (although sometimes it can be a nice little extra Wink ), I simply enjoy the tast of it.
As far as liquor is concerned, well, I dont hit the hard stuff often. At parties or when I go out to a bar.

For some people it's just a way of life ... not because they're an alchoholic, but because they enjoy it. Personally, I would rather have a Newcastle over a soft drink at any given time.
MikeRavenelle
Um... Achohol and Weed are far less dangeress then Meth.
MuroX
Ok another speech for the drinking people. If you think drinking is good then you must be very dumb.....drinking is the number 1 cause of death in Canada and the USA (drinking and driving or not), the point im sayin is that drinking is not good it will make you hallucinate and hurt the people you love. Drinking is like a part from the Harry Potter 3 book, like when Lupin turns into a Werewolf he remembers nothing and would kill everyone in front of him (Sirius, Harry), drinking has the same effect you drink too much then you will start forgetting and then you will eventually start hurting someone that you love.[/b]
ethan182
i honestly like drinking with my friends. i think its kinda fun to get drunk but it is also a waste of money. i am keeping my age anonymous
Jaiye
just a comment for all these people with horror stories and warnings about life: you gotta realize that most of what you hear is only extreme examples and the majority of times people drink and have fun you never hear about it, cause nobody cares when stuff goes fine.

Saying
Quote:
If you think drinking is good then you must be very dumb
is just rude to the many members that have already expressed that they enjoy it, and it is so far, completely baseless. And trying to compare social drinking to turning into a werewolf from a fantasy story... dude what are you on?
hubertbakx
No doubt alcohol is a drug. Just like cigarettes, xtc, speed, heroin etc.
Of course there are differences between those drugs, some are less dangerous (but still dangerous) then others.

As someone wrote before, moderation is the key. Never too much! What is too much? When you're not in control of yourself, it was too much. That means that all the harddrugs are almost always "too much" even consuming just a little.

Another important issue is: be informed, if you know what you're talking about, you can choose. And choosing is always a good option.
geeren
I trink verry much alcohol and its nice, i like it, especialy because i am a moslim.
joopc
I think when childeren get a responsible education about alcohol they will not become adults who become alcohol abusers.
romaop
I'll try some verses about alcohol:

A drink or 2
Just one more
To hit you
On the road door

Who doesn't make a mistake?
Sometimes tough the price gets too high
Was it worth to try?
A happiness that sounds fake

A spiritual healthy disconnection?
A social must?
A way to have fun?
Just think what's best for you
And for the others
conicon
If anyone knows Primus, on their hallucino-genetics DVD Les Claypool during one of the breakdowns starts saying "THINK! it ain't illegal yet!"

No you do not need alcohol to have a good time. When I was in high school I never used to drink. I did not like people who drank all the time, I actually despised people who would live weekend to weekend, party to party, but once you turn 21 you are going to realize that there is not much else to do other than go out and drink. Sure you can go out and not drink but then you feel like a party pooper. You want to get along with everyone, you want a common ground to share with everyone you want to be able to have a good time and do it and that is exactly what alcohol does for people. It is human nature to be social beings, those that were anti-social (not those that didn't drink but those that didn't get along well with others) didn't survive. It's a phenomenon, that basically every culture of human beings partakes in. It is something that I've been trying to understand from a societal aspect. Anyway I need to do some more research and get myself another beer.
Lord Klorel
OnlyOneLife wrote:
I completely agree with "Slammer" [the thread starter] view point.
There is no point and you risk your life when you drive back home. It tastes bad and it's a waste of money and time. You could use the time for self development.


I am completly agree with OnlyOneLife. I am 22 years old and since 1 year i am a member of a organisation that calls themself Responsible Young Drivers in Belgium.

This organisation is started in the 1980 years when a person from almost my age died in a traffic accident. The father called all the friends of his son together and that moment our organisation was born.

We are doing actions over the entire country to show people and in specific the boys that are ready for driving a car, what alcohol and drugs can do. And a lot of young drivers are persuaded of the dangers. Since the start we are beginning to see a small decreasing of accidents with young drivers.

Our organisation will survive as long as young drivers will understand the danger and if they are ready to show there friends that they are a RYD person.

I hope that i have shown to all of you that such organisations are needed for the sake of young drivers. As long that you will follow 3 rules then you can be a RYD.

Rules:

1: Carry your seat belt.
2: Never use alcohol or drugs when you are driving
3: That you are driving defense. (= understand the situations and that you can re-act on suddenly actions)

Follow this rules and show everyone who you are a RYD
DarthSilus
Drinking is a sensitive subject.

Alchohal is a low level toxin, in all actuality. However, mankind has been consuming it since the beginning of civilization.

In my mind, people drink for either of or both reasons:
1)to get a buzz or get drunk
2)for the taste

All alchohalics drink for the affects (the buzz.)

Most people who drink sophisticatedly, responsibly, and for the taste, never become dangerous.

So, drink for the taste. Don't buy a gallon bottle of "Ribble" or a bottle of tasteless hard liquor, but an nice, expensive/tasty wine or beer.

Developing a taste for alchohal means you associate the pleasure from your addiction to the taste of the beverage. Just plain loving the taste of alchohal is moral and safer though.

Never drink for the buzz and you'll never have to be worried about being a dumb bitch who kills an innocent family on the road.

That's my view-- if you are going to do it, do it sophistcatedly and savor the taste.
Jack_Hammer
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meet in rio
I'm 18 and live in England, so I'm perfectly entitled to drink. I've never felt under pressure to drink, and I doubt that my friends would push alcohol on me if I made it clear that I didn't want any.

The truth is that I really enjoy a drink. I like the taste of many alcoholic drinks (with the exception of a lot of beer, whiskey/grappa etc.) and like the 'warm, fuzzy feeling' that you experience as it hits the top of your stomach. I can be quite shy (although not dehabilitatingly so) around people, and I welcome the confidence boost.

I feel better about myself, I talk more freely, I make friends more easily. It will take me around half an hour to begin to really enjoy myself whilst dancing when sober, as I am self-conscious; I can enjoy myself instantly when a little tipsy, and I honestly couldn't care less if I look a little sillier. Of course I agree that it would be better if I could enjoy myself as fully without drinking, but I'm simply not confident enough to do so, and there's really nothing I can do about that. Losing your inhibitions is only a problem when you stop doing things you wish you had the confidence to do when sober, and start doing things you would never dream of when sober.

And it's not just about confidence - I just find things more amusing and enjoy myself more. A good night in with my parents involves a film on the telly, a bag of Frazzles in one hand and a hefty gin and tonic in the other.

I definitely think that introducing children and teenagers to alcohol in a controlled fashion is the way to go. When I am a parent I'll be offering my children small sips of my drinks - making alcohol less of a 'big deal'.


Jack_Hammer wrote:
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Well, now; I'd feel stupid if I didn't acknowledge that in some way. Wink
aka2103
Drinking isn't worth it. It'll screw up your life. Don't do it.
tonk
Alcohol is necessary for the human being
Alcohol is used for the humans since ancient times, now is good to socialize and as psychological therapy is very god.

I enjoy drinking, but not always the next day.
Starflier
I dunno, I've got a 16 year old friend who spent his New Years getting drunk, which I think is just discusting. He basically got wasted then spent the rest of the night wallowing in the side effects. And then he says that he probably had more fun than I did. I retorted that I probably did fewer things I'll regret later.

As I get closer to legal drinking age, I'm trying to make my decisions ahead of time, so it isn't all thrown on me at once. I've decided that the "designated driver" life sounds good for me. Fewer heart problems and less brain damage, and I'll never have to experience a hangover, or the humiliation that comes from finding out that I went streaking the night before.

On the other hand, I don't have anything against people who drink. My Dad drinks sometimes, and is pretty responsible about it. It's not like when someone lights up a cigarette and I'm tempted to dash it out of thier hands and stomp it out.
Shermanatortank
drinking everynow and then is alright...causual drinking is what i call it... but when i see people guzzling down bear and other junk....it kinda makes me feel that alot of fine alcohol is being wasted just so some fool can feel messed up and throw up all over the place and crash his car into a bridge pylon.
hiimdave
Heh, I'm 19 and I'll drink on the weekends. Idk, it's just something to do with a some friends. If you're with good people, you always have a good time.
Jayfarer
Starflier wrote:
I dunno, I've got a 16 year old friend who spent his New Years getting drunk, which I think is just discusting. He basically got wasted then spent the rest of the night wallowing in the side effects. And then he says that he probably had more fun than I did. I retorted that I probably did fewer things I'll regret later.

As I get closer to legal drinking age, I'm trying to make my decisions ahead of time, so it isn't all thrown on me at once. I've decided that the "designated driver" life sounds good for me. Fewer heart problems and less brain damage, and I'll never have to experience a hangover, or the humiliation that comes from finding out that I went streaking the night before.

On the other hand, I don't have anything against people who drink. My Dad drinks sometimes, and is pretty responsible about it. It's not like when someone lights up a cigarette and I'm tempted to dash it out of thier hands and stomp it out.


Alcohol isn't some acid that will ruin you the instant it goes down your throat. I drink on occasion, and I've never had a hangover. I've never done something drunk that I really regret. Some of my alcohol-loving friends are the smartest people I know.

The image of the obnoxious, drunken guy with no boundaries that has a headache the entire next day, that's not always the outcome. It CAN be, but it's easy to avoid that. It's like how eating fried foods doesn't automatically give you a heart attack. It's not technically good for you, but it doesn't do any outrageous damage if you can limit yourself.
speedlikecy
drink a little....
felling good....

but if more no good for our body Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
Gnez
I think the initiator of this thread has allready made up his/her mind. Why change it? Nobody says you have to drink, so if you don't like it, just don't.
Jayfarer
Gnez wrote:
I think the initiator of this thread has allready made up his/her mind. Why change it? Nobody says you have to drink, so if you don't like it, just don't.


It's turned more into a debate/discussion about alcohol and it's effects among the people who came to the thread. I doubt any of us really care what the original poster decides to do, and are pretty content just discussing the issue without him/her.
naked_in_a_snowsuit
Like many people have already mentioned, whether people choose to drink or not is personal choice.
In all honesty, I drank long before I was legal at 18. It was mainly to get plastered, and to feel 'older'. Now I am older I know my limit, although I don't see anything wrong with going a little over it on the odd occasion. I'm not stupid, I know when I get to the drink that's going to make me a tired, sick drunk and I never go that far because I've learned from past experiences just how bad I'm going to feel.
I used to be friends with a girl who whenever she drank, went so far she would stick her fingers down her throat to make herself feel better - every single time. That's what I would describe as being selfish. She was determined to drink as much as she could never once thinking about the person who was going to have to hold her hair back, or calm her down when she was crying her eyes out.
All in all I don't have a problem with people drinking, the key is moderation and consideration for the people you're drinking with.
Drodr
I can drink legally, im 18, when u are 16 you can drink legally in Holland.. Rolling Eyes
fulaninhu
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the666bbq
being flemmish (country = belgium), i was punt on beer as soon as possible (wining of the breast milk is a huge step in mankind at this country). Drinking with the bunch usually means drinking beer, drinking in more private atmo is wine mainly (italian/french; european anyways). I rarely do high spirits or alcopops - although you can make my day with aquavit (swedish strong stuff), jägermeister or amaretto... i would say that each moment has its special drink

some culturs are not that good aquainted with alcohol i have learned. especially you UK'ers Wink once you leave UK you want to break with your countries rules...

alcohol is a nice drug but you should try to manage yourself while using it...
jstoeffler
in the US i bet you couldn't find one person in their teens that hasn't drank any alchohol at all
ebkari
yeah. you can find some. but not many. something like 75 percent of highschoolers have tried pot, so alcohol is definitely higher.

but to answer the initial question, alcohol provides a WONDERFUL pass time. but just like everything else, too much of a good thing can hurt you. i'm not obsessed with it and i can very well entertain myself in many other ways, but i like to drink, and i like to get drunk.

i'd have to say, if there were no such thing, my life would be a lot easier. having alcoholics for parents definitely ruins things for you.
Starflier
jstoeffler wrote:
in the US i bet you couldn't find one person in their teens that hasn't drank any alchohol at all

Well, I'm Canadian, so I don't count...
Ljsk
I drink to get drunk sometimes. I recommend it.
jstoeffler
i'm sure everyone has at least tried a sip of their dad's beer once
MWANGI
Slammer wrote:
Im 17, next year i can legally start drinking (UK). But i doubt it will lol, ive never drank so far, and neither has my girlfriend, we've both tried it at family things nstuff, and didnt like it. We both agree there isnt really much point in it, waste your money to get wasted and then forget it all by the next day. I dont even mean like going out to get drunk. I dont really see the point of it...ever loll.

Some people say it relax's them, i dont need it to relax me, i can relax in other ways. All in all, i dont see the point in drinking. Dont flame me for saying it, its my opinion and i want to know all of yours! Everyones told me, oh just wait till your older then you'll wanna drink. But i really dont see myself doing it. (Btw, im not a wee stuck up person thats all like tea total. I just dont thnk its really needed).


Share your opinion!


You really need to drink. It helps in digestion and you need to drink it in rememberance of Jesus who died to save your sins.

He turned water into wine and drank it.You will be disobeying God if you don't drink it to remember him.

Also read Proverbs 31:6

Amen
planet
Being an ol geezer, I have over the years encountered various substances which can alter ones behavior and senses.

Alchohol was for a while prohibited in the US. and considered not acceptable, this as we know has since changed a bit (Bush getting napped drunkdriving and a Kenedy as well plus a few others) and Clinton didn't inhale...=)

In the Netherlands "pot" seems to be legal to consume (I have not been interested enough to check out exactly what constitutes personal consumption and where criminal intent commences).

The legal aspect of these substances (as well as many others) seem to be a highly addictive subject for politicians when trying to get ahead in the polls but how the general public treats it is a totally other matter.

From British news reports I have seen that there seem to be a "young peoples drunk culture" which appears to me not to be very neither safe not healthy.

Fom Dutch and American tv programs one sees large "wild hordes" of youngsters almost crawling around under the influence and partying.

This can not be healthy but wether or not they should do so is a matter for themselves and / or their parents to deside.

What I DO know is that my 5 kids don't go to such extreemes, something for which I'm happy =)
romaop
I've read some last opinions. I think mixing alcohol with God might be dangerous. Well, it's easy to make links with things, but many times they sound quite superficial.
The idea of drinking or not is a one's choice, alcohol is a drug but also lots of food has got hormones, toxines or chemicals.
History tells us that wine has always been with society, well lot's of bad things come from the past. Should we remain with that things?
The problem with alcohol is to keep in control specially if you aren't with real friends.
These thoughts are to say that this is not, at least for me, an easy issue to deal with, and the key point is to ask yourself if alcohol will make your life happier and better or not, and if by drinking you won't do serious mistakes to you and others.
parentaladvisory
personally i think alchol is fine under the right circumsances
baringmo
Alcohol is a tricky subject to tackle.
First off, who is to say that just because someone is 21 means that they are mature enough to handle alcohol. I know plenty of 18 year olds that are more mature than some 21 year olds. Why shouldn't those people be allowed to drink. When I turned 18, I was suddenly able to go to war and die for my country, and yet I wasn't allowed drink alcohol.
The cold hard truth behind alcohol is that no matter what, there is going to be alot of underage kids drinking it. I think the government should take more actions in accepting the truth and dispensing some wisdom, rather than just denying its existence.
ultraman
Quote:
When I turned 18, I was suddenly able to go to war and die for my country
"No poor bastard has ever one a war dyeing for his country. He won it by making the other poor bastard die for his"! ! ~Gen. George S. Patton

Anyway, I just turned 21 in February and I really don't drink as much as I did when it was illega for me to. I really like wiskey , I think it is the indian blood that I posess. Yeh, drinking alot for some people can really make them lose control and I think those people shouldn't really drink at all. Not even spray their mouth out with freshbreath that contains a little alc.

I think having a beer while eating or a glass of wine is okay also.

The drawbacks of drinking to much . Fighting could occur from drinking alot, possibly worse. Loss of friends cause they can't put up with your drunken crap. Also it is really a deep ditch you dig by , drinking every weekend and partying alot. I have seen people that did this when I started college and now its been 2 years and they never stopped and they look DRAINED.

Sa , if you want to drink or get drunk, don't try to be a billy bad ass about it, and show off the world how you can drink a 5 gallon barrel of wiskey!
planet
Now on a more sober note, it can be very nice when used in mederation =)
white tiger
I believe there is nothing wrong with acohol consumption itself as long as people obey the letter of the law, and don't drink to get drunk. There is nothing wrong with a social drink but there is nothing right about high intoxication levels.
robthedodo
my thoughts on alchol are that it is ok but only in moderation there is no point in drinking for the sake of it and for the sake of getting drunk. but at the same time i do not think that alchol is a bad thing. i think that it is something to be wary of so that you do not become to affected to much by it but also think that it can be a way in which it you can "let your hairdown" for that reason i have the odd drink but i do not participate in excess of drinking with friends.
Zone
Kids this side start drinking as young as 11 years.
Africa. It is bad this side.
Most
parentaladvisory wrote:
personally i think alchol is fine under the right circumsances

That's rigth ! A lot of young peoples drink alcohol in order to do what their friends do. This is the wrong way and that is why I don't drink alcohol, cause I don't want to do like each inconscious guy that are drinking alcohol like this Mad
Urahara
Water = good but tastes boring.
Pop = soso but tastes good.
Wine = good.
Beer = yuck.
Alchol = no thanks.
Why? It kills.

That pertty much sums up my opinion.
Pyxel
I basically agree with all the people above who have a opinion against drinking.

I personally have lost four of my good friends to drinking; they were all hit by a drunk driver who got off without any major punishment.

I have a strict no alcohol policy with my friends, family and girlfriend .. they have the same views I do ...

I just plain dont see the point. All its effects are negative.
bigdan
I pretty much only drink socially. Of course, I've had the occasional bender, resulting in vomit, but that's a rarity.

I never drink at home by myself. It feels too anti-social to me.

Mind you, I'm going to a pub in Newcastle tomorrow for St. Patricks Day...that'll be a good day Very Happy (with friends, of course Wink )
Kris1972
Tasukii wrote:
I don't like people who claim themselves are drinker neither the people who say that if you don't drink you are uncool. I like to drink because it's a little pleasure for me, when we have a party or something like that. But i never drink too much or to make myself drunk.
Anyway, I don't flame the drinkers, you do whatever you want but if you drink too much, that can be a drug like cigarettes.


Well Put. I also enjoy a drink from time to time but the drama gets created when people abuse it. I live in Wellington New Zealand, when I first moved here the drinking age was 21, now it has been lowered to 18. NOT GOOD.
Used to I could go into town and not stand in too long of a line. I could take my wife out and just have a good time. Now....you go into to town and the shortest line for the club is 2 hours, the streets are plauged with immature drunken teenagers who don't have the maturity to control themselves and seem to easily fall victim to the "just another drink" peer pressure. I say restrict it back to 21 yrs and only 4 or so drinks per psrson at any given club.
s0ulstar
I have had my share of drinking and in my opinion, drinking just to get drunk and messed up is just stupid. When I do drink, it's just a social thing. I don't drink just because other people do, I drink socially because I feel comfortable drinking when other people are. I am glad to say I'm not an alcoholic, but I can get carried away. But the fact that I'm just 20, and can't drink anywhere except at friends houses and parties doesent bring me down. My brother in law recently got married in Toronto, and little did I know that the legal drinking age in Canada is 19. I had a blast there. But nonetheless, I also enjoy being the designated driver at times to watch all the drunk people and how ridiculous they act.
mugglesquop
Hey kids. I drink about once a week on a friday night, where we (thats me and my mates from the old college i used to go to) go down the local pub for a drink. This is just a social thing, as i dont get to see my friends much any more, now i'm working. Its a good time, we dont drink to get pissed, we drink because its a social thing. drinking to get drunk is not a good thing in my opinion.


Cheers,

peace
gaijin01
Drinking is a terrible think. I dont think there is anything wrong with alchol, mind you. But the reason its wrong is not because some people like to take a small glass of red wine with a meal, when we are discussing drinking we are talking about serious drinking. In the times of old alchol was pretty much grape juice, you could drink 10 huge glasses and would still be barley drunk. The alchol of today exists for one purpose, to get you drunk as quickly as possible.

Our entire society is one of lust. We cant watch 1 hour of TV we need 6, I dont want 1 beer, I want a 6 pack. "Oh look these are buy 10 get one free"... everything is about gluttony and lust. Anything can ruin your life with self control, we only talk aboiut alchol so much because it has the capability to ruin more lives than just yours...
srdjan
Hey peeps!
I don't think there's anything wrong with drinkin a glass of red wine after or during lunch (actually that's good for you!!)

Moreover, I don't think there's anything wrong with getting drunk during or after lunch (but unfortunately that is NOT good for you:)

Basically, it boils down to whether you are aware of what's good and what's not good for you, and whether you care...Well, if you don't care now, you probably will when you're 50 or 60..right?Smile

Personally, I like happy drinkers. These people are in fact the same when they're a little drunk, and when they're totally sober..I hate agressive drinkers, those who get into fights, and break stuff cuz they're 'mad' at something or someone...Those peeps are no fun anyways, they probably have internal 'issues' with themselves, which come out as agression in an altered state of mind, such as drunkness...

So, I guess, the message is: Don't drink too much too often! When you do, be fu***** happy Laughing
bluefossil
People who thinks drinking is stupid are either:
1 - allegic to alcohol
2 - do not have a stressful job

I considered myself a "moderate" drinker. Drinking helps you melow out/relax from the stress you get from 9-5. Yes, other pointed out there are other ways to "relax". Again, you probably do not have a stressful job. The last thing you want to do when you get home after a looooooooong day is to change clothes to go to the park or to the gym. You just want to relax with a glass of cold beer watching ESPN.
alkutob
I never tried it and never do .

in our society a story says :

There was a man in a prison and facing hanging , but he was put in an exam to get his freedom again .
The court gave him 3 choices to get freedom :


1- to kill your wifAe .
2- to ****** your daughter .
3- to drink all the day .

the man directly choosed the third point .... but when he lose his feelings after he came drunk he ****** his daughter and killed his wife ...

This means that drinking is more worst than killing

thank you
Jaiye
at least some of these misconceptions and extreme-case stereotypes are entertaining.
PimpinAintEasy
I personnaly dont like Achohol its very bad for you.
bluefossil
I drink occasionally, with friends but it doesn't really interest me anymore. I think i am really allergic. you know Asian Red sydrome? I have a birth mark on my left forearm taht looks like a 3 leaf clover. it is a light hardly noticable red. When i drink it turns a deep red and if i drink enough my body catches up, I used to use it as a gauge on how hammered i was, when it went back to normal i would feel fine.
insolent1
everyone knows alcohol is bad .people may spend their money for this bad thing.
Catastrophic Fairy
Hmm, well, there's no harm in occasionally having a glass/can/mug/whatever of your favorite alcoholic beverage, or even getting drunk once in a while. But there are some exceptions to that...

For example! If you drink due to depression, you often see that depression as a reason to keep on drinking, which causes the deterioration of the body and, with some people, only more depression. Being drunk also blinds one from the realization that they're only making things worse for themselves, and those around them. Some people will even starve themselves because they are spending too much money on alcohol, that they don't bother spending money on food, or their utilities.

But, with all bad things, there is often a good side to it. You just have to learn your limits, then the world can live without over doing the many little things we get to do at certain ages. :3
joemanspace
Drinking is for morons that do NOT need thier brain cells for normal activity. Speaking of alcohol, alcohol was banned one time, but people started to make homemade alcohol and selling it. People was mixing it up in thier bath tubs. People started dieing off of this, the death rate went up, and alcohol was unbanned. Shocked
Jaiye
joemanspace, I propose a question to you: Why did you just choose to call a large number of members here 'morons'? But it's not just you, could any of you possibly, using your 'higher number of brain cells', explain why so many of these anti-alcohol posts end up directly insulting the other group?

Now I'm not trying to pick a fight with anybody, and this is 'Your views on alcohol', but if you don't have anything to say, simply state that you choose not to drink. And if you do have something to bring up against alcohol, then by all means don't hold back, but resorting to pointless insults just throws the value of this topic out the window.

As of yet I've seen nothing (that I can remember) in this thread that presents a valid argument against alcohol, only stories of irresponsible people who abuse it.

Do not judge a product by it's users, take an example from technology on that case.
bogger
(probably said before, but i didn't see it)

Alcohol is a social obligation in some countries, or on certain days, (TODAY!)
In fact, At mass, there is alcohol (although not everyone is allowed drink it). It can't really be solved,

As far as i've seen, you are arguing over the problems of alcohol, surely you should argue over how to fix it.

and alkutob:
alkutob wrote:
in our society a story says :
There was a man in a prison and facing hanging , but he was put in an exam to get his freedom again .
The court gave him 3 choices to get freedom :
1- to kill your wifAe .
2- to **** your daughter .
3- to drink all the day .
the man directly choosed the third point .... but when he lose his feelings after he came drunk he **** his daughter and killed his wife ...
This means that drinking is more worst than killing


If a man tries to kill his wife, you'll find that the problem is a bad marriage, alcohol doesn't make you do things you hate, it makes you do things you want to do, but are socially obligated not to do
benstewart
Alcohol has been in existence from the very earliest of recorded history.

So when the big hand strikes beer o'clock, I guess I am a traditionalist.
joemanspace
replying back. Drinking can clean your body, but also shrink your brain. Drinking is ok every great now and then, but alot of people abuse it. Of course, it is your free will. There are too many young people drinking because it is sooo coool. Infact, if you dont drink it, you're not cool. I should'nt need to explain the reason why alcohol is bad. It is publically known. Search a little bit and you will find why.

http://www.talkingwithkids.org/alcohol.html
http://www.projecthealth.org/OurLocations/boston/strive/drugs-sex-alcohol.html
http://www.doitnow.org/pages/150.html

If you need more links, feel free to pm me. I am not trying to be mean, but this is not a light topic. Sorry. I am not trying to pick a fight, nor do I mean harm. Alot of bads things can go wrong with alcohol. Wink

If you are smart about it, drinking can be fun and be ok.
Dragonfly
Since I'm asked to present my opinion, it goes like this. Drinking serves nothing to me and I am not going to gain anything out of it, rather I see people being consumed by alcohol and made blunder at times because they are drunk. It waste our money and waste our intellectual brain and pushes us to negative behaviour. Therefore, alcohol is just bad except for medicine ingredient. And I never drink nor encourage anyone to do the same.
Jaiye
Lol, what did you do randomly pull up weblinks?

First link was about underage substance abuse and addiction in general and how parents should talk to thier kids.

Second link was specific questions for people who have sickle-cell (a genetic blood disease).

And the third link posed this question:
"And the next time you see a slick, funny beer commercial on TV, ask yourself: If booze is so great, why do they have to work so hard to sell it?"

Answer: Because there's so much competetition in that market.


And I'm not going to PM you asking for more useless links Exclamation
joemanspace
lol. Jaiye, you're funny, but links did imply what happens to your body with alochol. Yes, I did'nt spend all day for resources you can find. Infact, you can find me some usefully reason to drink Shocked , beside the medical reasons. I already know them, and I have no medial reasons. Do you?. Lets not flame each other. After all, it is not fair for anyone.
aaron.sarwal
HEllo guys Laughing
back on topic with another global prolem Exclamation Exclamation alocholism it is a well known fact that many of the deaths in the world are due to hit-and-run drunk drivers now if thi type of thing continues the problem might increase to half of the worlds population Exclamation Crying or Very sad Sad and above all most of the police cases in the world are on drunken people harrasing others.

not sre all these problems arising from alocholism but also thatalochol distroys the body of a man....i'd better do this than drink Arrow Brick wall again and again Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall
if drinking isn't stopped..... sorry Embarassed Embarassed BANNED half the worlds population would be destroyed and not only that but the remaining half will also have some or the other disease
aaron.sarwal
AND I AGREE WITH DRAGONFLY:) Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile
Gieter
Here in Belgium, the legal drinking age is 16. So I'm quite familiar with alcohol. Some people may find this shocking, but my experience learns that we don't have that much problems with alcohol. Most people know when they're about to drink too much, and stop then. Of course here in Belgium, people get drunk, but there were people from Iceland here and the legal drinking age there is 21, and they had another culture concerning alcohol. They just drank till they were drunk, and they don't understand that we just drink for our pleasure. I guess it's something in our culture.

Alcohol isn't that sweet, but after a while you start appreciating the flavour of it.

Lots of people on this forum think it's something very bad, but they simply have no experience with it. You all should come to Belgium! Wink
taurus_just4u
Is drinking alcohol harming my health now, or will it be harmful to me later in life? Should I stop drinking alcohol? Am I a binge drinker? Most adults who drink alcoholic beverages (beer, wine, or liquor) consume safe and healthy amounts. For others, unsafe drinking patterns increase their risk for injury, illness or future alcohol problems. And, for 1 in 13 American adults, alcohol abuse or alcohol dependence (alcoholism) causes substantial harm to their health and disruption in their lives.
Most
taurus_just4u wrote:
Most adults who drink alcoholic beverages (beer, wine, or liquor) consume safe and healthy amounts.

One wine glass per day is as dangerous as to be drunk once for many days.

So, I don't think that most adults are consuming alcohol safe ^^

Alcohol is just bad for our bodys ^^
sour_lemon_1k
Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

That's what alcohol is! EVIL!! It slowly destroys your kidneys and liver. First, poisoning it, then deterioting it...and then, IT KIIILLLS YOU!!

Not only that, but alcohol makes you drunk.

Scenario:

You are at a party. People are getting drunk. You get drunk yourself. Swaying in the middle of the carpeted floor, you start yelling out random sentences at random people.

A girl walks pass. "WoW! You're hot. SIzzlING! Isn't she hot, Marylin?" (-note that Marylin is your girlfriend-)

You have just lost your girlfriend.

Your best friend walks up to you and tries to take you home. You scream at him. "IDiot! No I don't want to go! Don't tell me what to do!!! I never wanted to be your friend anyway!! You just looked -hiccup- so sad..."

You have just lost your best friend.

You eventually get kicked out the party. Taking the keys, you start up the engine of your car. In your mind, you feel as though you have complete control. But, in reality, your senses are warped and your reflexes are slow. You swerve onto the streets.

BAM!

You have just lost your life.

-------------------------------end scenario.

You may argue, "Oh! I'm just going to drink a little! No harm there!"

But, despite popular belief, alcohol is a DRUG, and potentially addictive. People that only start with one shot, may end up finding themselves chugging down a whole bottle.

Alcohol can ONLY do more damage than good. Like you said, there are other ways to handle stress and problems than washing them away. Remember: alcohol is only twisting your mind. No matter what you do with alcohol, PROBLEMS WILL BE PROBLEMS. It is only if you solve them will then go away.

Look at this from a toddler's point of view:

"Daddy, I don't think poison is going to help you."

POISON!
POISON!
POISON!

Alcohol will take your life away, day by day.
skygaia
Hi.. dear.

Here in South Kore. First of all, I can't speak English very well. so I'm going to say sorry about my incorrect english in advance..

Drinking alchol is very serious problem in my country. There are a lot of people who drink a lot everyday. I don't remember the static number of drinking. But in my experience, I saw some people who died by alchol.

Most people know that drinking a lot is bad to their body. sometime that will make them fall in serious trouble. But many people drinks a lot today.
they say "we don't want to drink a lot of beer at one time. we just want to enjoy to drink. But society doesn't allow that. we have to drink for social relationship."

It's very hard to understand for people who don't know about South Korea. Actually, sometimes person who can drink a lot at one time is treated as a great person. it is very sad thing.

So, society of Korea has to change to reduce to drink alchol.

thank you
Sizzle
A glass of wine per day is supposed to be good for you. Getting drunk on occasion can be fun but you have to know your limit. First of all, don't drink alone. Drink only if you going to go out and dance (or if you are going to a lively party with 50+ people somewhere). If you go to a bar make sure it has a dance floor. There's nothing more depressing than a pub or bar that has no activities or laugh's. Head to a nightclub with a dancefloor or two. If you are low on funds, buy the alcohol in advance, drink it quickly before you go in and then once you have a really nice buzz going on, then go in. Once you are in you now only have to buy maybe a drink or two the whole night to keep your buzz on. You don't want to keep drinking until you are completely drunk and pass out. How are you going to meet chicks passed out you fool? Just get a nice buzz on before you get in, then depending on your weight, just get one drink or so every hour or two.

Don't take a girlfriend to a club drinking. Actually I don't suggest bringing any signifigant other to a club- why bring sand to the beach??? It is ok if you are a player and you go to a club with a girl (or more than one) that you already have non-serious relationships with. These girls already know the deal- you are going to party and have a good time.

Here is the important information: Carry profolactics in your wallet- you never know when it is going to rain (when it rains, wear a raincoat). If you are drinking at a club and you are still drunk or buzzed when it comes times to leave; then don't drive yourself. One thing you can do is simply have a designated driver. This isn't too bad if you go out with a 5 or 6 to a club and you have to be the DD every 5th or 6th time around. In actuallity, the sober one usually gets a chick during the course of a night. There's always chicks at the clubs that aren't drinking very much or not at all. Check it- next time you are the DD (or you are just sober for some reason instead of blasted) check the room- it's like a totally different world in that same club then it would be if you were drunk. Being in the sober state you can even determine (however lighting always a factor) who is stone cold sober. Those sober or those even drunk and coming on to you are your target audience ( regarding companionship) for the evening.

Sizzle
SusieSmacktard
Hi all, I'm new here. Just thought I'd drop my .02 in.

When I was younger I was a drunk. I drank anything I could get my hands on. Why? The forbidden fruit factor. When you're under 21 in America, alcohol looks like this great thing. Instant party, woo hoo. Combine that with the fact that in the rural parts of America there is almost nothing for young people to do but get fake id's and get booze any way they can.
Fast forward several years. I have moved out of the middle of nowhere, am now married with a career. My husband and I both enjoy microbrewed beer once in a while. I like the complexity of flavors in a good stout or porter, plus it makes me feel a little warm and fuzzy Razz But we always decide ahead of time who drives home, and know our limits. Because drinking a $5 pint when you're too wasted to taste what you're drinking is stupid.
AffroThund3r
I'm off to get smashed tomorrow!! - been drinking for 6 years and still going strong....Stongbow!!!!!!!!
skiffwang
Beer is nothing but favored water. While liquor is a little bit dangerous. it really makes you drunk without even noticing it. Keep in mind, life is your own life. Nobody cares of it than youself.
jerski
In my opinion, you sometimes need a little alcohol to relax and have a good time. I know some persons who never drink and one that hasn't ever tried alcohol in his life, and those persons still have a good time when we go out. I admire and respect that.

As far as I'm concerned, however, I like to have a beer, a drink or a glass of wine now and then, and that is, as far as I see it, perfectly harmless. Like everything else, alcohol should be consumed with moderation.
bladesage
I've got nothing against alcohol, in itself. Sadly, however, too many people are physically dependant on it. I have grown up around too much alcoholism, I have recently lost a cousin to it. He was 19, drinking illegally here obviously, and he wasn't supposed to have any alcoholic beverages with the meds he was taking. He didn't understand just how serious of a warning that was, because he drank and drank one night. That night, his brothers (who were legally drinking and helped him home) found him too late, in his room, choking on his tongue.

Anyway, I'll admit, I plan on drinking when I'm 21. No big deal, because I know when to stop. Some alcohol is healthy, and a glass of red wine a day helps you live longer. Just don't become dependant, like I think my mom was before she quit. It's just horrible when that happens.

I will never drink beer, it's just plain gross. I will on occasion drink wine, or small amounts of liquor. The liver is only capable of filtering about the equiv. of 1 shot glass per hour. Just remember, anything more than that, damages your organs and brain for its duration in the blood system.
Klaw 2
sour_lemon_1k wrote:
Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
That's what alcohol is! EVIL!! It slowly destroys your kidneys and liver. First, poisoning it, then deterioting it...and then, IT KIIILLLS YOU!!
Not only that, but alcohol makes you drunk.
Scenario:
You are at a party. People are getting drunk. You get drunk yourself. Swaying in the middle of the carpeted floor, you start yelling out random sentences at random people.
A girl walks pass. "WoW! You're hot. SIzzlING! Isn't she hot, Marylin?" (-note that Marylin is your girlfriend-)
You have just lost your girlfriend.
Your best friend walks up to you and tries to take you home. You scream at him. "IDiot! No I don't want to go! Don't tell me what to do!!! I never wanted to be your friend anyway!! You just looked -hiccup- so sad..."
You have just lost your best friend.
You eventually get kicked out the party. Taking the keys, you start up the engine of your car. In your mind, you feel as though you have complete control. But, in reality, your senses are warped and your reflexes are slow. You swerve onto the streets.
BAM!
You have just lost your life.
-------------------------------end scenario.
You may argue, "Oh! I'm just going to drink a little! No harm there!"
But, despite popular belief, alcohol is a DRUG, and potentially addictive. People that only start with one shot, may end up finding themselves chugging down a whole bottle.
Alcohol can ONLY do more damage than good. Like you said, there are other ways to handle stress and problems than washing them away. Remember: alcohol is only twisting your mind. No matter what you do with alcohol, PROBLEMS WILL BE PROBLEMS. It is only if you solve them will then go away.
Look at this from a toddler's point of view:
"Daddy, I don't think poison is going to help you."
POISON! POISON! POISON!
Alcohol will take your life away, day by day.
(Sorry I made it shorter and made it tiny)


ontopic:
Wel alcohol isnt good for you, BUT that scenario is wel... a bit dark, usually that sort of things dont hapen much.
The ammount of drinking alcohol is how strong you want it and how strong you are, if you just cant say "no" after 3 beers dont start if you can, you can drink without harm, alcohol doesnt make you addictive in one or two or three go's but it does especially harm on short term (drunk)
sigarettes on the other hand have no short term harm only long term.
bladesage
Klaw 2 wrote:
[size=7]ontopic:
Wel alcohol isnt good for you, BUT that scenario is wel... a bit dark, usually that sort of things dont hapen much.
The ammount of drinking alcohol is how strong you want it and how strong you are, if you just cant say "no" after 3 beers dont start if you can, you can drink without harm, alcohol doesnt make you addictive in one or two or three go's but it does especially harm on short term (drunk)
sigarettes on the other hand have no short term harm only long term.


That didn't make sense, could you please fix your grammar?
toughtrio
In a chemists point of view.
An alcohol is just a reaction product of an alkene with steam at a temperature of 600 degrees and a pressure of 60 atmospheres, so how can it harm you.

Hope u enjoyed it,
Warm Regards,
Angelgirl
Slammer wrote:
Im 17, next year i can legally start drinking (UK). But i doubt it will lol, ive never drank so far, and neither has my girlfriend, we've both tried it at family things nstuff, and didnt like it. We both agree there isnt really much point in it, waste your money to get wasted and then forget it all by the next day. I dont even mean like going out to get drunk. I dont really see the point of it...ever loll.

Some people say it relax's them, i dont need it to relax me, i can relax in other ways. All in all, i dont see the point in drinking. Dont flame me for saying it, its my opinion and i want to know all of yours! Everyones told me, oh just wait till your older then you'll wanna drink. But i really dont see myself doing it. (Btw, im not a wee stuck up person thats all like tea total. I just dont thnk its really needed).


Share your opinion!


I total agree with you! What is the point?
1. You use alot of money on it.
2. Most people get sick the next day.
3. You do things you wouldn't do when your sober.

If you can't dance on the table when your sober, why dance at the table at all??

I think it is much better to have a coke or something, than to add alcohol (that you eather don't taste, or that tastes crap)
skygaia
I think there is no problem for itself of alchol.
To drink deep usually makes serious problem. everyone know that drunk driving is very dangerous for all not just driver. but think about it. Drivers don't know about that before they drink deep.
To drink deep makes people lose their self-control. So they could get courage "I'm OK. I'm a skilled driver. nothing happen to me"

If people can always drink moderately, maybe nothing happen to everyone. But it's impossible.

Many people say "alchol drink alchol...."
mikenice
Hmmm . . .don't drink no more. I think drinking is highly over-rated. 93% isopropyl as fuel for a potato gun is great though.
nubster
I'm pretty sure that America is the only country with a drinking age as high as 21. I know that among my friends I've experienced people drinking under 21 simply as a form of rebellion. If the drinking age was lower, drinking would be considered less of a "cool, anti-government" thing to do, and binge drinking would decrease.
Arnie
You're wrong, because in Holland we can drink at 16 and it's still a 'cool' thing. Besides, I don't think governments should legalise drinking like that. Young people frequently go rioting after drinking too much at a party. That's what they like - not that's it's illegal (which it isn't, here).
Elephantman
I heard getting drunk lowers your brain function into the more animal like regions of our brain. That explains why we cuss morw ehen we're drunk. Also, if you're a smoker; Dopamine is released every time you smoke, and so smoking becomes more frequently needed in our 'animal state.'
We also become very emotional. And stupid.
Everything goes down hill. But that gives you a question about other drugs also. I will post...
Realcomics
Hey. I didnt drink until I was 18 (same laws as the uk for where I live) and I have to say that when I did start going to bars and clubs I didnt enjoy it and it actually had a very negitive affect on my self.

I say good on you and keep it up!!
lukeropro
many people drink because they think it's cool and some drink just to forget all their painful memories which will flood back into their minds after they get sober. there's really no point in drinking, the drunkards go into a bar, order a few bottles of beer then get themselves drunk and puke all over the place. At the end, the get thrown out by the bouncers so I say that drinking is a totally stupid thing to do. If you want to drink alcohol, I recommend wine, at least wine won't get you puking all over the place if you drink small amounts like a glass of wine, not a bottle of wine! Scientists say that drinking a bit of wine once in a while is good for you health! Champagne is not bad too but never try to drink beer, it'll kill your brain cells!
pefaja
In my humble opinion drinking is odd.
Many of u might think now "u'r odd", maybe u'r right, but drinkin with 17 and getting drunk is surely not the best thing u can do for yourself.
Better start doin some kind of sport (volleyball, soccer) and try to be healthy.

As it was already said "many ppl drink, 'cause it's "cool"", maybe they're right, but is being drunk and babbling some shit cool?
Don't forget that what u do now will echo in about 10 years.
SNES350
I'm not old enough to drink (legally), but I have had about half a serving of wine. Very, very nasty tasting wine. I'm not looking forward to be legally able to drink.
simp
intoxication is a highly subjective experience. as such it is outside the proper domain of intellectual discourse. especially by those who admit to having little or no practical experience with the subject. come back when you've got a little more experience under your belt. until then . . .

i think i'll have another drink.

or two.
meet in rio
lukeropro wrote:
many people drink because they think it's cool


I don't drink to "look cool". I've never felt under pressure to drink (and I'd think that my friends were complete losers if they ever made me feel like that). In fact, many times I have given in to pressure not to drink. Yes - there are a few people like that, but we're not all sheep.

lukeropro wrote:
there's really no point in drinking, the drunkards go into a bar, order a few bottles of beer then get themselves drunk and puke all over the place.


I have a drink or two; I have a laugh; I dance; I loosen my emotions and let my friends know that I love them.

You're talking about alcohol abuse; not the odd drink that most people indulge themselves with.
LukeakaDanish
I drink beer because it tastes great (thats my oppinion anyway)...I do occasionally get drunk but the purpose of my drinking isnt to get drunk, its to have a good time....

In Denmark the drinking age is 16 (before the EU it was 15), which i think is OK...because of the extensive amount of time teachers spend getting you to understand the effects of alcohol...not spreading propaganda against it...just explaining it...

it isnt healthy?...who cares...life isnt healthy because the more you live the less time there is till you die...yet just giving up on life would truly suck...

As my good mate has said: "Ethanol beats rhetoric"...a real ladies friend that one...but he has a point IMO...Very HappyVery HappyVery Happy
m.shaker
Don't think you really need to drink.
Try to eat choclate, enjoy it and you'll like it much more.
Drink is not healthy at all, and it has its damage effects on brain with time.
Jack_Hammer
m.shaker wrote:
Don't think you really need to drink.
Try to eat choclate, enjoy it and you'll like it much more.
Drink is not healthy at all, and it has its damage effects on brain with time.


and chocolate doesnt!?, no eating chocolate (Milk chocolate) will just make you fat and unhealthy instead... Everything in small distributed amounts is good, alcohol in small amounts is good (or occasionally) so is smoking pot.
kv
Have never drunk, will never drink. Never felt the need to drink. An honest teetotaller.
sphinrylee
I never really had much to drink when I was younger. I drank occasionally at friends parties, but not much more than that. I didn't enjoy the taste of wine or beer.

After a while though, you tend to develop your palate and appreciate the different flavours of life.

Drinking isn't for everyone, but can be enjoyable in moderation.
orrinjelo
LukeakaDanish wrote:
I drink beer because it tastes great (thats my oppinion anyway)...I do occasionally get drunk but the purpose of my drinking isnt to get drunk, its to have a good time....


Uhm....can't you have a "good time" without alcohol? It seems to me if you need it to have fun, then you (not personally) are a very boring person.

LukeakaDanish wrote:
In Denmark the drinking age is 16 (before the EU it was 15), which i think is OK...because of the extensive amount of time teachers spend getting you to understand the effects of alcohol...not spreading propaganda against it...just explaining it...

it isnt healthy?...who cares...life isnt healthy because the more you live the less time there is till you die...yet just giving up on life would truly suck...

As my good mate has said: "Ethanol beats rhetoric"...a real ladies friend that one...but he has a point IMO...Very HappyVery HappyVery Happy


Well, some of us have purposes in our lives and alcohol stands in the way.
I personally don't think it is too harmful, but people use the stuff stupidly.
LukeakaDanish
orrinjelo wrote:
LukeakaDanish wrote:
I drink beer because it tastes great (thats my oppinion anyway)...I do occasionally get drunk but the purpose of my drinking isnt to get drunk, its to have a good time....


Uhm....can't you have a "good time" without alcohol? It seems to me if you need it to have fun, then you (not personally) are a very boring person.

LukeakaDanish wrote:
In Denmark the drinking age is 16 (before the EU it was 15), which i think is OK...because of the extensive amount of time teachers spend getting you to understand the effects of alcohol...not spreading propaganda against it...just explaining it...

it isnt healthy?...who cares...life isnt healthy because the more you live the less time there is till you die...yet just giving up on life would truly suck...

As my good mate has said: "Ethanol beats rhetoric"...a real ladies friend that one...but he has a point IMO...Very HappyVery HappyVery Happy


Well, some of us have purposes in our lives and alcohol stands in the way.
I personally don't think it is too harmful, but people use the stuff stupidly.


Of course I can have a good time without alcohol...but both me and everyone around me loosens up after a couple of drinks...which makes everybody more sociable and talkative...which is surely good!

Hey...although i have no specific purpose of my life (appart from all the usual stuff...), i dont agree that alcohol prevents you from meeting your goals...YOU prevent yourself from reaching your goals by drinking to much alcohol...all it takes is a little bit of skills and it shouldnt be a problem controling your drink...
outeredge
The new licencing laws in the UK are supposed to allow the public to make their own considered decision as to how late to stay uot drinking and how much to consume. I feel however that despite the predominantly sensible population out there a group of plonkers may cause upset and at worst lose publicans their licences. The attidude to drinking in england is not so clever... It seems pissed is the only way in some places, social drinking is not widely accepted in youth culture any more - it seems drink to fall over is what is most popular. I think the young should ponder this one - look at the continent, quiet drinks with friends has been big there for eons.....
vinix
This is a very interesting point of view: young people who live at places where you must be at least 21 years old, usually travell to countries ( usually during the spring breaks ) where you got to be 18 to be able to drink.

What the parents of people that do this kind of trip think about this?
when their sons are under a different law, a different order, they really can behave like this? is this correct?
please, expose your thoughts on this Question Question Question
sparks
I am 22 years old.the advice that i can give you is that you should take alchohol as often as possible because it relaxes you and calms you down.

it makes you feel
1. strong (actually powerful)
2. intelligent:you will become a genious in about two hours
3. Sexy

Drink it.
You will feel much better about youself and people will respect you for it.

take advice from an experienced person
vinix
sparks wrote:
I am 22 years old.the advice that i can give you is that you should take alchohol as often as possible because it relaxes you and calms you down.

it makes you feel
1. strong (actually powerful)
2. intelligent:you will become a genious in about two hours
3. Sexy

Drink it.
You will feel much better about youself and people will respect you for it.

take advice from an experienced person


well well well...22 uh...ok
nice advice. but...it may not sound nice to everyone.
you look like a booze lover ( me too ). but watch out what you are saying...imagine your daughter can read this one of these days and become an addicted. i mean, especialy if she become a weak, dumb and ugly person when she complete the 21st loop around the sun.

anyway...have you ever drinked a Long Island? i think u should try this drink. my favorite one...(strong shit!) here comes the recipe:

1 part vodka
1 part tequila
1 part rum
1 part gin
1 part triple sec (Cointreau)
1 1/2 parts sweet and sour mix
1 splash Coca-Cola

Mix ingredients together over ice in a glass. Pour into a shaker and give one brisk shake. Pour back into the glass and make sure there is a touch of fizz at the top. Garnish with lemon.

what about?
Gieter
sparks wrote:
I am 22 years old.the advice that i can give you is that you should take alchohol as often as possible because it relaxes you and calms you down.

it makes you feel
1. strong (actually powerful)
2. intelligent:you will become a genious in about two hours
3. Sexy

Drink it.
You will feel much better about youself and people will respect you for it.

take advice from an experienced person


I don't think that you need to drink alcohol to feel better about yourself, it sounds like you're an addict (but you're not I assume.) I just drink it because it's in my culture, and the experience of being under the influence is indeed cool. However, I once started talking about art history at a party when I was a bit drunk. Wink
Arnie
Jack_Hammer wrote:
Everything in small distributed amounts is good, alcohol in small amounts is good (or occasionally) so is smoking pot.
In that case, I'd encourage you to take a small amount of tetanus.
izimngcubes15
My views: useless, crap, suicidal tool, stupid people drink alcohol. Confused
Excellence
Well, Its ok if ur allowed to. Im muslim and i dont drink it Smile
dovbear
izimngcubes15 wrote:
stupid people drink alcohol. Confused

but not drinkink is not making you wise either
Smile
SomeonesLittleOne
I used to drink. I was in a rebeleous place in my life. I have quit because it was about to cause me to lose everything. I let the drinks take control of my life and my kids almost paid the price.

In my view, it is not a good thing.
faker
i don't drink often but i do think that drinking can help me release stress not that buch but yeah you'll forget most of your troubles when you drink. not to the extend of getting drunk
kung_fu_stu
I have always said "do whatever the hell you want to do, as long as it doesn't endanger others". It is fine to drink alcohol for what ever reason; be it for a party, socially or just a nice beer after a hard days work. I, however, find that drinking to the excess of beligerency is often unacceptable. If you can not control your bodily functions you have crossed the line.

Most of this is just knowing your own limits. It is also knowing yourself. There are many different types of drunk people: excited, depressed, lazy, annoying, sloppy; and among many others there is also violent, angry, and beligerent. If you happen to be one of the later three STOP DRINKING!!!!!
S3nd K3ys
Slammer wrote:
Whats your views on alcohol?


Typically a bottom-up, vanishing view as it poors from the glass into my mouth.

Some times it's a sideways view from the table-top, with a pounding pain in my head and the taste of throw-up in my mouth.









(j/k about that last part, I rarely get drunk)
bluedragon
I hate drinking. Don't drink. It's bad for you.

Smoke some marijuana instead!!
dovbear
[quote="bluedragon"]I hate drinking. Don't drink. It's bad for you.

Smoke some marijuana instead!!/quote]

why instead
Smile
adiutrix
I'm no alcaholic, but I do enjoy beer for the tase and its thirst neutrilizing capabilities. I say those who live a nice happy and healthy life don't need alcohol.
zluis
Hi;

I'm forty and I don't drink, I never did.
The reason is that I don't like the taste of it. Why should I drink something that tastes bad?
But I have nothing against those who enjoy having a drink, as long as they don't get drunk and respect the fact that I don't drink.
I was 3 years in the army and during that time I got sick of listenning to jokes about me not drinking. But I managed to survive that without much pain. I think that one should only listen to advices given by people smarter that oneself, and those who say that we should drink to be cool or to be accepted by others aren't smarter than anyone.
If I have to drink to be accepted by someone then it is easier to give him a bottle and let him talk to it.
In my country, Portugal, in my opinion drinking is getting a big problem, especially between very young people. Kids start drinking at 10 or 12 yerars old. The other day I saw an interview where a girl was saying that she started drinking late, she started with 12....
And the purpose now is to drink litlle and get drunk fast, to save money. Kids drink 2 or 3 shots and get "high" very fast. The stronger the drink the better.
And now everytime someone gets caught by the police they have the right to an interview in the TV. The other day I saw one that was proud about getting caught driving with 5 mg of alcohol per liter of blood, and it wasn't his worst day.
TV is converting criminals to heroes with that atitude.
But the main thing is moderation, as in everything in live.
pecad0re
Drinking alcohol in moderation is associated with better health and longer life than is either abstaining or abusing alcohol, according to the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism.
refes
I'm from Poland;) yeah;) We drink a lot and we started to drink very early;] my first time was, when I was 12;) it was nice... but what I was seeing?? I don't remember;P Now after a lot of alcohol I see only my boyfriend;) He's so sweet;) :* But I know, that some people see white mouses and red or white elephants;) Shocked Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
photographerguy
sounds like drinking absynthe to me. lol.
platinumvermine
im from the UK and we love drinking here, and now with those 3'o clock licenses we drink all the more
falconfx
Hello,

I haven't tried yet to drink very much alcohol but, even if I can "support" it nearly well, I think it's better a moderate use of alcohol.

Life's not only alcohol...
dkjut
Drinking is fun as long as youre not an idiot or have severe mental issues. Never trust a woman that doesnt drink either. Shes either incapable of having fun and too close minded to even try, or shes hiding mental problems and they surface when she drinks.
yaashop
i like drinking. i started to drink since in high school (that time age limit for drinking is 15 XD) from then on i went to pub and bar every week 2-3 times a week. since i married, i stopped anyway ^^ so enjoy it when u can ^^
condor666
Slammer wrote:
Im 17, next year i can legally start drinking (UK). But i doubt it will lol, ive never drank so far, and neither has my girlfriend, we've both tried it at family things nstuff, and didnt like it. We both agree there isnt really much point in it, waste your money to get wasted and then forget it all by the next day. I dont even mean like going out to get drunk. I dont really see the point of it...ever loll.

Some people say it relax's them, i dont need it to relax me, i can relax in other ways. All in all, i dont see the point in drinking. Dont flame me for saying it, its my opinion and i want to know all of yours! Everyones told me, oh just wait till your older then you'll wanna drink. But i really dont see myself doing it. (Btw, im not a wee stuck up person thats all like tea total. I just dont thnk its really needed).


Share your opinion!

I'm 26 and when i was younger i've a little bit abused alcohol and canabis, now i've stopped smoking and i drink 3 or 4 beer in a month so if you know where your limit is, there can't be any problem... Twisted Evil
Wink Wink Wink Wink
Bosleee
its like marmite ... some love it some hate it.

i love it and i know people may think im an idiot but so be it .... i might think your an idiot for liking something i do thats the way life is.

i do like a drink now and again whether it be meeting my mates in the pub, playing pool and having afew beers (i play in a pool team), watching football in the pub is a great atmosphere or just going out at the weekend and getting pissed.

im expecting people going .. yeah right.... but i dont have hangovers and i remember what happens the next day and i still drink alot. i love drink but im not an alchaholic. i dont HAVE to have a drink everyday but sometimes i like to to socialise etc. i dont spend every last penny ive got on beer but if ive got some money and i know ill still have some money left to pay bills etc i will go for a drink no matter what people think about that

its just something i like and everyone is different and for the people who aint tasted it or have and didnt like it ... go out on a night out clubbing and drink then if u dont go out drinking again after that night then fair enough but if u enjoy yourself you'll understand why people go out every weekend
04S07
If you're a German, you really don't have a choice because it's part of the culture... During Oktoberfest especially... they drink like there's no tomorrow. Besides, in countries with colder climates, they drink to keep their bodies warm, not just to get wasted. If I'm not wrong, there are also places where beer is cheaper than water, and sometimes families will use beer to make milk for the baby o.O

The only alcohol-related drink that I've drank are those Jolly Shandy drinks that only contain a small percentage of alcohol. And they taste good.
Nicekiwi9
Cool it has a nice taste, but leaves not taste.... so i guess its just a matter of personaly taste..... Razz bit more to the point weather ur into getting totaly pissed or knocking urself out with a garden brick, ither way u still wake up wif a big head ache and feel shitter than u did from whateva drop u to it in the first place.... Wink
godam64
it's so simple.
it's 100% banned by my religion Smile
Human don't need alcohol for drinks. 99.99% negative effects.
the 00.01% is for kerosine subsitute Smile

the solutions :
A. to forget a problem
- listen to system of a down music
- talk to your nice friends
B. to drunk
- use your baseball bat to roll
C. your friends push you
- leave them, find new nice friends

done.
try to find bad effects of alcohol on google Smile
evilryu530
drinking is fun. if you don't abuse it. i had a drink yesterday with my co workers after work, it was fun, we got to relax and socialize. going to the bars and going to the clubs to drink is also fun. it's those people who come home from work and drink every night are the ones who give it a bad rap. other wise drinking can be awesome. i like drinking heinkien, coronas, hard liquor can be good. just don't abuse it and you'll be ok.
it's those people who come home from work and drink every night are the ones who give it a bad rap. other wise drinking can be awesome. i like drinking heinkien, coronas, hard liquor can be good. just don't abuse it and you'll be ok.
Rmgk
alchohol is a legal drug and can be very fun, especially if you can brew it yourself Razz

Although it will taste horrid your own brew makes you feel all proud and stuff Razz
spinifex
Ive been drinking since i was about 17 and while I have had a couple of regrettable experiences that can be attributed to alcohol, it hasnt turned me off it or anything like that.

I drink pretty much anything except Bourbon. I reckon that drink is evil and its out to get you instead of just offering you a good time Very Happy .

Alcohol is a great way to let your guard down and go out and meet new people and interact with them on a more personal level, less inhibited by everyday rules and "mental shields". I belive going out and getting wasted is a viable way of dealing with personal issues or pressures in your life at the time. It allows you to get back to your roots and live life in a more open way. There are also cheap ways of doing it too. For instance this club near my house has a night where you flip a coin with the barman/barmaid, and if you win the toss then you get the drinks for free.

Being drunk on a packed dancefloor is always something I look forward to when im going out. It just allows you to absorb the music and dance uninhibitedly.

I'm Pro Alcohol.
raver
drinking is ok by my book, as long as you don't abuse it. I ussually drink a beer once every two days, because i like it's taste and like going out to a bar relaxing a little after a hard days work. I get really drunk once a month, just to remember how it is. You say you forget about it the next day... well that just means you don't have enough practice Wink
Mamsaac
drinking in moderation is fine. It can actually be done, but it usually doesn't happen when a person drinks with friends, at bars or in parties. People almost only drink in moderation when they are just in family while eating food (which usually means drink wine or, why not, tequila).

for myself, I drink nothing at all. I happen to be a person who either does something a lot (eat huge amounts of food) or just don't... maybe because I lack of will and selfcontrol over most things I do.
patrickmuldoon
You guys really need to get out more, your views echo English style secondary school level PSHE discussions. Drinking is a big part of society, always has been, and for the foreseeable future will continue to be. Shock! Horror! at last some enlightenment of the symptoms of drunkeness! People lose their inhibitions, come out of their shells, have a good time basically!

Moderation is the obvious answer, there is no debate here. If people want to go either side of that line that is absolutely their perogative. I feel sorry for the shallow minded people who care to judge people on how they live their lives based on their mediocre and insignificant perspective. People have their reasons, and they really don't care about your opinions.

And another thing, why does everyone in this thread feel the need to keep defending their drinking habits?? I have a beer because 'I like the taste...' or ' I like some wine with a meal...' as if it makes them feel somehow superior to people that want a drink just to get hammered. Really gets my goat!
bluedragon
Getting drunk makes people stupid. Do it responsibly. Preferrably socially.

In the meantime, why not smoke some bud? Relax and enjoy.
meet in rio
Something to add.

If I drink and then go to do something by myself, I just feel sleepy, lonely and love-sick, despite usually being quite independent. It most definitely has to be done with friends.
DimaSafr
I am a big fan! but we all should control ourselfs!!! and stay avay from A-class drugs (optional).
gelbosten
it is good sometimes,but it will be harmful to your health if you over drink
Zibé
I'm 19, and French.
I had my first party with alcohol when I was 15 ( a bit young... )
but With the time, you drink alcohol to a good alcohol :
- A whiskey from scotland Smile
- a rhum from ireland Very Happy
- a good vodka with some schweppes
(...)

but it's good too when you're a bit drunk... it's funny Wink
mying
don't drink too much of alcohol. bad for health.
Jaiye
Passing out in a depressed stupor after drinking excessivly, alone in front of the tv all night has become common place for myself.

And I couldn't be happier in my life.
shwetanshu
alcohol is bad for health ... i hate it , i m 18 and i have nv had a bit of it Razz
Jaiye
shwetanshu wrote:
alcohol is bad for health ... i hate it , i m 18 and i have nv had a bit of it Razz


everybody's gonna die eventually, might as well have a little extra fun along the way.
mstreet
I'll never forget the first time I got really really drunk at a party. My friends took me home. I was extremely hung-over and thought I was going to die. My parents were of course nt pleased at all and the worse thing was all off my aunts and uncles and little cousins were visiting at the time. The relatives were not very happy either.
After recuperating my stepfather instead of lecturing me decided to teach me how to appreciate scotch and theat alchol was never meant to be something that you get totally wasted on. I now enjoy a good scotch now and then and am actually quite picky about wine as well. Now that I'm living in the UK pints are awesome. I do think everything in moderation is a good rule. One does not have to crazy everytime they drink.
I also like to ask the question can one handle only having one drink or do you always have to have 2 or 3.
Zibé
Jaiye wrote:
shwetanshu wrote:
alcohol is bad for health ... i hate it , i m 18 and i have nv had a bit of it Razz


everybody's gonna die eventually, might as well have a little extra fun along the way.


+1
good mentality... but, I don't say that we have to drink
alcohol every day to be drunk...
Saurabh
I truly support all my frenz who wud not like to have alchohol... Its an enemy of society.... naaah.... drop this blabber.... get drunk and enjoy highs.....
ncwdavid
Hey, I love to drink. Typicaly when I was 13-14 I started drinking vodka because it got me drunk fast but the feeling of it was horrible. I used to always drink whenever I could because the opportunity didn't come around alot.
roadruner
Jeslyn wrote:
It's a waste of brain cells.


well the problem is if you don't have them Wink

well me and my pals have a nice habbit of going in the park and drink long hours into the night Wink
i like drinking
it's like a sole purpose in my life
not sure why, just is Wink
Zug Zug
I admit I drink...but only when I'm with friends and we're lanning ^_^ I don't consider myself cool for it...and I hardly do it lol. I enjoy vodka, and something called Irish Cream, yummy. I like smirnoff ice, the red lable. As long as you don't do it too much it's fine imo.
sibbahz
Ive decided that i wont drink at home alone, only ever when im with a large group of friends, usually friday or saturday nights. Also dont go out with the intention to get wrecked.
meet in rio
This is the third time I've posted here, but whatever.

I had the most blissful day of my entire year today, and it involved lounging around in the sun in various beer gardens with a bottle of white wine, playing hangman and chatting with a friend. There is some entirely harmless fun to be had with alcohol.
D'Artagnan
i drink so my opinion is irrelevant... Laughing

anyway:

the simple way that made me think two times after going to drink something alcoholic:

alcohol is a strange substance to our body,
alcohol isn't used to anything within our body,
it goes directly to our brain,
it's dont taste good =)

to me drink is much more a social tool than a pleasure thing... who believes that someone like the taste of beer O.o... the major part of the persons drink to get more "happy" to others... i really dont need it.

in many ways it's something cultural... someone never watch the simpsons?


in the other way

I'm a fashion victim (i'm saying this??) drink is fashion so...
my friends do i just follow the...
Jaiye
i've said is before and i'm sure i;ll say it again

I like alcohol.

sorry for bringing back a dead topic.
charseips
I'm in the UK and was first introduced to drink when I was about 4 sipping on real ales, which are heavy bitter beers often really dark, like Guinness- although I think Guiness is a stout, please correct me if I'm wrong.

Alcohol has always been a part of family life but I have never seen my Dad drunk and I didn't see my Mum drunk until after I was 18 and it was her birthday so I'll let her off that one.

I've just finished Uni and had a fantastic 3 years, well the first 2 were all partying, I never drank to get drunk although that did happen occasionally but not intentionally.

I have never understood the desire to be so drunk that you can't remember what you've done or said and feel so bad the next day that you cannot function. I probably dirnk more in a week than is recommended but I enjoy a drink and I enjoy socialising as I do so.

I have some rules as a safety net:

1 don't drink alone.
2 don't drink if you are driving or driving the next morning.
3 don't drink if you are stressed
4 don't drink if you don't feel comfotable
5 don't drink before lunch

And to prevent drunkenness as soon as you feel tipsy switch to water and or other soft drinks.

I cannot see any problems with the age of 18 being the limit, I found it very odd when I was in America not being able to drink. I remember I was in LA (my first night) and I asked for a beer and they asked for my ID, I was about to show them my passport when I realised that I was in America. Doh! oddly i was on my way to Australia where I proceeded to drink again.haha.

I'm now old enough to drink in America a odd society in which one can kill with a gun before one can drink. Can anyone explain that one?
wsco
why u like killing ur self slowely
why u like to act stuipedly
i don't like alchol
i don't like people who drink
girlcalledjay
I grew up being allowed to sip my parents wine and then have a small glass of my own when I was older. By the time I was "allowed" to have alcohol, it just wasn't that much of a mystery to me.

I never felt the need to sneak a drink when my friends did at school parties, or get blind drunk.

THese days I enjoy a glass or three of wine, a beer on a really hot day, a mixed drink at a club, but I can also go for weeks without touching a drop. It's just not a big deal and the people who make a big deal of it just bother me and make me wonder if they have a problem.
crimson_aria
Alcohol is not that bad, for me. I enjoy drinking but I make sure I don’t end up drunk (Well, I did once, but I make sure that it won’t ever happen again). Drinking moderately is the key.
Nuetral
well i am a drinker sort of. dont drink like once a day just once in a while mostly what ever family get togethers we have, i have a couple nothing wrong with that. Wink
jb2_86_uk
Well being a student I like alcohol by default! Although 3 months ago I decided to give it up for a while, Well here I am now, havent had a drink in 3 months and feel great! I cant believe how much of a difference I feel in my body, and my wallet! In Feb its my 21st so I am going to have a drink then, but until then Im not going to touch a drop, and then even after then I am going to seriously cut-down or even stop completly. Getting drunk and waking up the next morning remembering nothing is good for a couple of times but then its just embarassing. I have been out loads of times in the past 3 months and have had just as good of a time as I would if I were drinking, and I can remember it all which is an invaluable tool for embarassing housemates Very Happy

In short, Alcohol is good in moderation, but I am well aware that a 20 year old's perception of 'moderation' changes with alcohol intake! Moderation will never be reached!

JB
Jaiye
alcohol kicked my ass yesterday.

such a bittersweet love.
Sl1cK
I think alchohol is fine in moderation. I had a beer yesterday watching the World Cup, as long as you don't drink too much it is fine
frozenhead
[opinion]Its good to drink alcohol sometimes but it should not be an excuse that you made something wrong when your under the influence of it.[/opinion]
raaeft1
Alcohol drunk moderately (two small pegs a day or a glass or two of beer /wine) is considered healthy according to cardiologists.What is rather harmful is the heavy snacking that one does while drinking.
dracula
i am 18 yyears old and i do not drink, for one of the reasons, is both my parents are alcoholics so it is 400 times more likley for me to become one than other people.
other reason i do not like alcohol and that i am a christian.
too many times i have lived here and seen people to out just to get DRUNK. it is really stupid. not only are they slowly killing themselves, but they are waisting their money, instead of saving it for something more constructive and better. i could rave on but i feel i have said enough.
Jaiye
dracula wrote:
it is really stupid.


why is it that this is the argument almost every anti-alcohol person makes?

it could just as well be said that going out and not getting drunk is stupid because you could be having a more fun time.

and about wasting money... I've always had a 'fun' budget. I used to spend it on computer games and monthly fees. I now spend it on vodka. It's just a different fun, and i'm not wasting more money then I would normally.

i don't think calling people names helps this tread at all though. it's all just a difference in opinion.
rolex
it is a good dring if you want to de drunk if you dont want to you maybe not drink ehe Laughing Laughing
Jaime
We can drink some alcohol without excess... The minimal cantities can be useful for the body..
nazty
The only alcohol I recommend is rubbing alcohol. Muhahahaha! It's refreshing. Same content but not prohibited.
Dimaod
I often drink beer with my friends on fridays...
Of course its very bad if you drink a lot, and think only about it..
All is good but within reasonable limits Cool
N!Ce
Sorry that I didn't take the time to read all replies, 11 pages are a lot =x

My opinion was asked, well here is it:

Alcohol seriously sucks. Some people think it's cool, but it's actually the opposite.

What many ppl don't know:

Alcohol is a drug (eventho it's legal).

Alcohol kills yearly more people than heroin and cocaine together

Alcohol killed more innocent people than terrorism

Alcohol destroys braincells that don't recover.


Surprised? Industry and state are making a lot of money out of this drug, hence they don't like you to know such things.

Don't belive it? Check Google and ask your doctor or pharmacist.


Btw, I am not attacking anyone. I just want you to know =)
Jaiye
N!Ce wrote:


What many ppl don't know:

Alcohol is NOT a drug (alcohols have a completely separate chemical classification for themselves).

Stupid people
kill yearly more people than heroin and cocaine together

Stupid people
killed more innocent people than terrorism

Alcohol destroys braincells that don't recover.


There we go, fix'd.

You really can't blame that shit on alcohol. Look at it this way, it's legal under the constitution for anybody to own a gun. But out of everybody that owns a gun, only the stupid people are going to run out into the street and start shooting people.

Sure we have a problem, but the root is within the population, not the drink.
photographerguy
Alcohol is a drug, classified as a depressant.

I'm not for or against alcohol.
N!Ce
Jaiye wrote:

There we go, fix'd.

You really can't blame that **** on alcohol. Look at it this way, it's legal under the constitution for anybody to own a gun. But out of everybody that owns a gun, only the stupid people are going to run out into the street and start shooting people.

Sure we have a problem, but the root is within the population, not the drink.


There is a major difference. If someone uses a gun to kill, the gun would only be a tool. He would have used something else, if there wasn't a gun.

Unlike if someone beat his wife because he was drunk, or kills ppl on the street due to driving while being drunk. The alcohol is the reason in this case, not just a substitutable tool.
eldarian
Pee-e-e-how! Do you drink vodka? Just try it! Beer is actually good thing, port isn't bad, gin is great! Beermix - my lovely (beer with juice).
Idoru
I think one of the important questions to ask is within the legal aspects. In most
places over the world alcohol is allowed. It the same places cannabis, etc isn't.
Mabye it's hash to put it that plain and compare it, but the question that pops up
for me is simply - why is that so?

What makes goverments ok with it's citizens numbing themeselves with alcohol,
though not with cannabis? Violence, for one, would drop if the use of alcohol went
down. That people and animals drug themselves is nothing new. Older then
society as we know it, but why do we do it with alcohol and in the way we do it
since a long time back? Is it because of the effects, or simply because of the law?
I don't want to say that one is better in front of the other, but what I wish to point
out is that there are different drugs with different effects, and that we should
take a moment to think on that subject before using any of them. We have a
right to decide for ourselves, even outside the bounderies of laws and culture.
In my opinion, alcohol and other drugs are things that really need an exam
throug those sharp glasses.
DianaCoelho
well, drinking a lot is definitely a huge problem... but i think that when we drink socially and without abuses it is ok. i like drinking smirnoff ice, i would say that i love it!.. the only problem is that the alcohol is an issue when we talk about getting in shape or starting a diet that will work!... so, if you are thinking about getting in shape i advise you not to drink, because it has lots and lots of sugar!... the reason why it tastes so good....
ass: someone that cannot drink!... lol
Ratman2050
I personally do not advise drinking. Even though it is fun. But kids often get overdoses and take it granted and get wasted. this is our main problem.
Becky
Personally i have no problem with people drinking alcohol, i've tried.and liked it.
But i know not to go over the top with it, as i do see my mum getting drunk quite alot. And i've seen what it does to her. Shes even ended up being so drunk that she had to be taken to hospital, that was when i was about 8 i think.
There is nothing wrong with people getting drunk, just not reguarly. But i definately agree with what someone else has said in this thread, never drink alcohol alone! Thats what my mum does all the time, and i've already told you what happens to her Rolling Eyes
jemmae
The only problem i have with alcohol is when people abuse it regularly.. i personally enjoy drinking - mmmmmmmm southern comfort - hangovers leave a lot to be desired though!!
Ray Gravin
It really depends on the context. If your drinking wine with a meal its safe enough. If your drinking to "party" its a little irresponsible. If your drinking to escape your problems your on dangerous ground.

I personally try to stay vigilant. Poisoning my body seams counterproductive. I do indulge in caffeine from time to time though. I think being mentally "awake" makes one stronger. Being dependant on unnessasary chemicals is also somthing I try to avoid. I have to keep chocolate and coffee in check : )

My advice: "Stay sharp, Stay sober"
chompi
I think the fact that Alcohol is considered as the second (Exclamation) one on the top 10 list of mis-used drugs today:

TOBACCO, Evil or Very Mad ALCOHOL Evil or Very Mad , PRESCRIPTION DRUGS, METHAMPHETAMINE, MARIJUANA, MDMA (ECSTASY), CRACK COCAINE, HEROIN, STEROIDS, INHALANTS

says a lot, despite the fact that it's legal almost everywhere.
the1991
personally i love a good beer. i dont think it's something i could give up, but i really hate being drunk. i think learning to discipline and moderate yourself is one of the most valuable things a person can learn.
windgrassmedia
I'm only 17 but here in Canada thats less then a yr from drinking age, so I'm faced with it alot among my friends. At first I found it kind of hard to accept and everything I felt that there was something wrong about it. But after a while I realized theres nothing wrong with drinkin really, just as long as you dont do anything stupid like getting a random girl pregnant or something like that. But then I ask myself whats the point of drinking and why do people do it? Is it just a fad today that people feel they need to follow? Is it away to releive all the pain youve been through in life? Or is it just to fit in with your friends? Maybe something else? I dont really know
CMA
I never got excessively drunk in my life (ok, only a bit dizzy, but nothing beyond that) and I dunno if I ever will, since I seem to have quite a good resistance to alchohol. Now, I love drinking with friends once in a while, but that's it. I don't make it a habit, nor do I drink specifically to get drunk.

Some alchoholic drinks taste mighty good, I dunno what's wrong with drinking a bit once in a while. For instance, a glass of red wine a day is good for your health.

Now real drunktards, THOSE are to blame.
snjripp
I think that getting drunk is really unnecessary and irresponsible as well as bad for your body, that is a gift. At the same time there is nothing wrong with enjoying a drink or two--many good conversations happen in the atmospheres provided in our day and age by coffeehouses and pubs.
ThornsOfSorrow
I rarely drink, not just because I'm under the legal drinking age here in the U.S., but also because I don't have an interest in it. Once in a great while, my parents will hand me a beer and I'll drink it, but I never drink outside of home. However, I don't care if other people choose to get drunk, whether they're under-age or not. I have a good friend who gets drunk quite a bit, but I just tell him to be careful. I worry, but it's not my business to make his decisions for him.
blue77
I drink sometimes. Maybe one or two times in the month.
twisthigh
I think it's LAME, lol
meetul
Slammer wrote:
Im 17, next year i can legally start drinking (UK). But i doubt it will lol, ive never drank so far, and neither has my girlfriend, we've both tried it at family things nstuff, and didnt like it. We both agree there isnt really much point in it, waste your money to get wasted and then forget it all by the next day. I dont even mean like going out to get drunk. I dont really see the point of it...ever loll.

Some people say it relax's them, i dont need it to relax me, i can relax in other ways. All in all, i dont see the point in drinking. Dont flame me for saying it, its my opinion and i want to know all of yours! Everyones told me, oh just wait till your older then you'll wanna drink. But i really dont see myself doing it. (Btw, im not a wee stuck up person thats all like tea total. I just dont thnk its really needed).


Share your opinion!


Alcohol is a good drink for killing insects and worms in the stomach Wink
palavra
each sip of alcohol has a way to addiction

and it is one of the worst thing that can be happen to a human
mhcjsquires
I don't say that casual drinking is bad, but I know my own ways. If I decided to drink it probably wouldn't be a good thing. That and I just don't like the idea of giving away some of my control to a liquid that makes me act all crazy. I don't know.... am I the only one that doesn't like that.
HoboPelican
I am quite a fan of alcohol. I usually have a beer, mixed drink or glass of wine each day. It's rare for me to have more than that and you'll never catch me driving after more than one drink (I weigh 220lbs, so one drink has no noticable effect on me)

Why? Taste. I love the flavors. A good cabernet, a shot of Jack Daniels, an ice cold beer, all tastes I've come to really enjoy.

I don't think it's evil or wrong. Yeah, there is a potential for addiction or abuse, but we each have to be responsible for our own actions. Seems to be a novel concept these days.
studsstudio
I'm a student and almost have earned my degree. I started drinking when I was 16. That is a normal age to start trying alcohol in Holland. Well, that was eight years ago. It seems kids start experimenting with everything earlier and earlier..

First I drank only in the weekends. Then I became a university student. It no longer mattered what time it was to fetch a beer Smile. Then I also became member of a studentboard... Every board organises parties and drinks so that was a crazy year. (Well it was a fulltime 'job', and I was serving the students community, drank with politicians and other people with influence).

Now I no longer drink on a regular base.
I'm back to 17, since I was a 'special beer' drinker. Belgian beers are very nice. Leffe, or Hoegaarden. mmm. In Holland we think Heineken is just a moderate beer. I prefer drinking one cold beer at home, and sometimes to go back to the old days with my fellowstudents. then we drink a little more..
webgeek
Slammer wrote:
Im 17, next year i can legally start drinking (UK). But i doubt it will lol, ive never drank so far, and neither has my girlfriend, we've both tried it at family things nstuff, and didnt like it. We both agree there isnt really much point in it, waste your money to get wasted and then forget it all by the next day. I dont even mean like going out to get drunk. I dont really see the point of it...ever loll.

Some people say it relax's them, i dont need it to relax me, i can relax in other ways. All in all, i dont see the point in drinking. Dont flame me for saying it, its my opinion and i want to know all of yours! Everyones told me, oh just wait till your older then you'll wanna drink. But i really dont see myself doing it. (Btw, im not a wee stuck up person thats all like tea total. I just dont thnk its really needed).


Share your opinion!


i began drinking quite early but it was only for peer acceptance. Back in high school, the tough guys drank a mixture of beer, gin and coke. Later I realized that drinking doesn't add to one's being tough -- so I stopped. Choosing a different group of people to go with also helped. Right now I can be considered a social drinker: I drink only on special occassions. I still get drunk though, especially when I am drinking with great conversationalists, but that's rare.

Alcohol is good but only in moderation as all other things are. I'd occassionally drink a glass of red wine just to get my blood circulating. Beer is great too, especially when I am entertaining friends. To drink but not to get drunk -- that is my principle. Very Happy
shishir.K
hey all the alcoholics out there!!!!!!!!!!!

STOP DRINKING!!!!!!!!!!

IT KILLS.............

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
Meggsy
There is a time and place for everything. I personally don't drink much but if there is a special occasion then I might have some wine or something like that. I too don't see the point in drinking for the sake of it or to get drunk or become happy or whatever the reason may be. I find enjoyment from other things.
icecold
i will say better 2 drink than to take hard drugs like cocaine and other stuff. I'm drinking but not very much i try come home not alcoholized Cool
ucvip
Alcohol is a poison
SteveoSupremo
ucvip wrote:
Alcohol is a poison


i agree. i think it also stinks.

but if someones wants to drink a little then go for it. just dont get drunk on my watch or I'm going to take you for all you have Laughing

SteveO
Dean_The_Great
Alcohol, like most things, are just fine to be consumed in moderation. I want to consume alcohol everyday about as much as I want to consume carbonated beverages and chocolate bars everyday. And that's not at all. It's a treat for certain weekends/special occasions, but I don't need to intoxicate myself multiple times a day.
xMOBx Nor Cal
well i like alcohol... i drank all the time when i can back from iraq... but i never really got wasted i liked just getting buzzed cause it took the edge off.. but its also an excuse to go out with friends and chill
girlcalledjay
I hate to say this, but the older I get, the less I am interested in alcohol! I just don't see the point in it?

I DO enjoy a glass of wine, or a really cold beer in the middle of summer, even a mixed drink. But notice I don't use plurals?! Just one is plenty for me.

When my husband and I decided to start a family I stopped drinking at all. Yesterday (after many weeks of not drinking) I had one mixed drink, got dizzy and fell asleep!!!

Being around people who are drunk just makes me angry. It makes me realise how stupid you look (and act) when you're hammered!
carbenson
I drink , I get drunk, I fall down.


do ,,,\
I dont drink, at all, ever.
I am an alcoholic
a.Bird
Life is a gamble, drink responsibly.
a.Bird
carbenson wrote:
I drink , I get drunk, I fall down.


do ,,,\
I dont drink, at all, ever.
I am an alcoholic

Well one common side effect of alcoholism is not being able to form cognate thoughts. Although I really doubt that you have any idea what it really means to be an alcoholic. Please prove me wrong.
Manofgames
im only in my early teens, had about two - three glasses of alcohol in my entire life.

while most of the kids i know are getting drunk on the friday.

not every1. just the idiots.
mantasx
Bad, messes your brain sels up, bad morinings.
Fun, get free, forget everything, laugs with friends.
well its not that bad to smoke time from time.
Manofgames
a glass of red wine is supposed to be good every so often
markosaurus
I drink most weekends, socially, with friiends...I don't think it's big, and it certainly isn't clever.

I get good grades at uni, don't drink (much) through theweek and don't really see what is wrong with a few social drinks in a club at the weekend.

I do however hate it when I go out and see people stumbling around all over the place drunk out of their skulls...does anyone else think this is a waste of a human body?

Oh, and drinking too much at the weekend makes me feel really guilty at the start of the week, but at leats it motivates me to keep fit for the rest of the time, so maybe it can be a good thing?
adnan
Taking Alcohol should be banned because it just makes your cells and boy damaged slowly and slowly. It is like a slow poison.
kazikame
Getting drunk is fun Smile
Manofgames
yeah, only if u like the consequences
skygaia
I'm from South Korea.
Most korean men really like to drink. Actually, they have to like to drink.
Do you know what I mean?

In my country, ability of drinking is considered as good ability. just 10 years ago, it's very difficult to move up the cooperate ladder for people who couldn't drink at all..

As time goes on, atmosphere of our society has changed. But many people think drinking is very important for their social life...

I don't like to drink so much.. I want to drink just a little.. but it's very difficult for me to do that with others...
varun_dodla
[quote="Slammer"]Im 22.I have never tried any drink so far But my relatives do drink for occassions. I dont like drinking at all and especially when i see my relatives drinking and the way they behave after drinking, i started hating it. But ofcourse different people might have different views on it.
Some people say it relax's them, i dont need it to relax me, i can relax in other ways. Also, i dont see the point in drinking. Everyone teases me saying you are a milk boy....but i like being that way only. Also my girlfriend also doesnt like people who drinks.
So its better if i dont drink ...right!!!...what do u'll say guys???
[\quote]
bartdou
cnnet wrote:
take a little drink is good for your healthy
while when you drink much
you'd fill sick
and after drink
you'd find you're the other one


that's quite correct!
You know the longest living man on earth said the secret of his longevity is drinking a little glass of red wine every day!
this has also been convinced by the scientists. Drinking a little at times gives you 100 goods but 0 bad, drinking much gives you 100 bads but 0 good.
drink little as a gentleman, so romantic, drink muck as a juice-head, so rude.
Leetch
Slammer wrote:
Im 17, next year i can legally start drinking (UK). But i doubt it will lol, ive never drank so far, and neither has my girlfriend, we've both tried it at family things nstuff, and didnt like it. We both agree there isnt really much point in it, waste your money to get wasted and then forget it all by the next day. I dont even mean like going out to get drunk. I dont really see the point of it...ever loll.

Some people say it relax's them, i dont need it to relax me, i can relax in other ways. All in all, i dont see the point in drinking. Dont flame me for saying it, its my opinion and i want to know all of yours! Everyones told me, oh just wait till your older then you'll wanna drink. But i really dont see myself doing it. (Btw, im not a wee stuck up person thats all like tea total. I just dont thnk its really needed).


Share your opinion!


My view is drink untill you can't see anymore, but maybe thats just because i'm aussie Very Happy
meet in rio
Okay, I'm aware this is probably the thousandth time I've replied to this topic.

I also enjoy drinking because, once in a while, it's nice to be 'simple' and 'mindless'. Things make sense; the world is in order and as it should be. If someone wanted to permanently remove 40 of my IQ points I doubt I'd consent, but ironically it's when I'm in this 'stupified' state that I manage to take the most pleasure in the world. Knowledge is seen as desirable, but if genius is next to madness and toddlers and the mentally retarded are so damn content with life, why are we so concerned about being in our 'right mind' all the time?

I realise that that argument was, in great part, monumentally incorrect and off-topic, but I'm tired and (topically) tipsy and I've written it out now, and it seems a shame to delete it all.

(And yes, I'm obviously an extremely dull person if I can only find excitement in reckless drinking, yadda yadda. Honestly, if my life was overflowing with wonderful, sober activity then I wouldn't feel the need to drink. Not that my life if particularly empty--just that I recognise that, in some capacity at least, I drink for fun/because I have 'nothing better to do'.)
baronblod2007
I am not going to start drinking, cause I see no reason for it.
There are many other drinks that are better Wink
Alcohol only leads to carcrashes, shitty liver and other bad stuff.
Does'nt happen to those ho have control over their drinking, but those who just dont know when to stop may have a problem there..beginners..
Just know when to stop, and you should be rather Ok

Wink
r_y_e_20
I have never drink or sip or taste alcohol in my entire life so far and doing it never enter my mind. I have interviewed some people who do and they have some point in a way. Other people have their own reasons why they drink. Some said its a way to release their anxiety and anger. Some said just to relax themselves.
arkebuzer
I like to drink, simply because it´s a nice rush. I drink at parties, and sometimes by byself when I watch a movie or so, and I dont think there´s anything wrong with it Wink nor do I think there´s anything wrong with not drinking. It´s 100*% up to you... Thinking it´s cool/uncool to drink or be sober, well, that´s just immature IMO.
vdk777
Ok... i want to add my point of view too. usually we (me ,friends,familly,community) drink to make a great discussion.

i think nobody have do drink (lower than 20 years old) cause it make you sick and stuff
ncphysio
Drinking is like anything else, if done in moderation it is absolutely fine.

Excessive drinking = cirrhosis of the liver (bad news in case you don't know) + bad breath + generally slovenly and sloppy behaviour (sometimes can be quite fun) + being left in the gutter by your mates to rot in your own filth after they can't be bothered carrying you around anymore

However if you are around 18 in Australia (or 21 in some other countries) i doubt whether or not you'll give a !@#$ about any of these.... so all i can say is ENJOY!!!
henkez
I want that the line on the age in swedish to me 16 but the line is 18. In danemark the age to drink is 16 and i have been there and you can just go in to a shop and buy a beer
The World is Yours
I think its funny that everyone that is stereotyping drinking as completely pointless waste of time, or anything like that starts off like "I've never done it but people that do are stupid", and the people that do drink are ashamed to defend themselves like they have the right to do. I drink, get fu**ed up, and do stupid ass things on a regular basis. Only I am not lying to myself or anyone else. Sure, I hurt myself, I have plenty of regrets, but I don't blame any of it on alcohol, I blame it on myself. Chances are that it wouldn't have happened had alcohol not been involved, but it did, and it was. It is still my fault. Now, having said that, according to most of the posts here, I am a completely useless individual, stupid, retarded.......blah, blah, blah. Everyone does something that not everyone is going to agree with. So, from what I've learned from this post is that ignorance, is making some of you look more like a fool than alcohol has ever had a hand in making me look!
Bluedoll
I think its a good call. You can decide what you want and do not want in your life.

For myself, I like a little wine but only sometimes and with food. That substance like others substances is often very abused. It is simply bad for you consumed in excess and really plays effects your skin.

In moderation though like most drugs it can have some benifits, older people find digestion is improved with some wines or heart rate is increased or it can have a warming effect in winter.

There is though far more negitive side effects with excess consumption with an addictive substance including ruining your life.

One thing to think about is peer pressure to drink and simply accepting those that do in that world. You wouldn't want to put someone down because they drink a little to change their state of mind simply because you have decided not too engage however who can accept someone drinking and driving for example? Its a criminal act and hurtful.

I think you are wise to think about it and can have an opinion and express your opinions as you see fit..

wishing you good luck in life and being happy
catscratches
I think it's really stupid of those people who drink alcoholics at such a young age. I'd never do that. No matter what others would think, than I'm a coward or something. Nothing could make me become an stupid addict.
reddishblue
Leetch wrote:
.My view is drink untill you can't see anymore, but maybe thats just because i'm aussie Very Happy

Please, don't encourage the stereotype Wink
Anyway, I can't drink, underage, but I admire teeter-totters or however you spell it.
Most of them have never drunk which is hard in a society like this where its almost OK to be a little tipsy, and that disappoints me, since people do unthinkable things when they are no longer in control.
A little alcohol is OK, but otherwise...
Anyway it’s Pepsi all the way for me! Smile
McDucque
I have only on special occasions once or twice, but its really not that important to me.

Half the stuff I've had just tastes like all hell to me.
rvec
Leetch wrote:

My view is drink untill you can't see anymore, but maybe thats just because i'm aussie Very Happy

I drink I ****** up and I like it. Laughing
I am dutch and when I drink I just feel free. No boundaries and no thinking about school or parents.
My live is complete when I am in a bar with loud music, a cigar and a beer. Just relax and live the moment. No wonder people get addicted.

This is not meant to get people to drink and I think those who don't are very strong. I have one alcohol free month a year and I think that's enough. But those of you who like more, it's your life your wasting. I live life.

BTW my IQ is still above 135.
achowles
I've got nothing against a few drinks, although I don't drink myself.
ExplicitRyan
It's great for partying.
Great for socializing.
A nice way to feel good.

But

A bad way to blow your money.
Chance of doing something really stupid.
Death can occur if too much is taken in.
noobcola
I hate people that drink themselves away, hurting everyone around them. I personally don't drink and if I ever do, it's usually wine.
j_f_k
Different drinks for different occasions. In a hot country if you've been out in the sun all day, I can tell you that few things feel better and cool you down more than 1-2 schooners (or pints) of COLD qood quality beer.

Wine with a meal also enhances the food - however this is an acquired taste.

There is an argument for some drink as an ice -breaker if you're at one of these overly stilted corporate or formal affairs

The problem comes from people, particularly young people, who get drunk for the sake of getting drunk and/or need to compete to see how much they can drink, and never mind how the body reacts to it.
Vrythramax
j_f_k wrote:
Different drinks for different occasions. In a hot country if you've been out in the sun all day, I can tell you that few things feel better and cool you down more than 1-2 schooners (or pints) of COLD qood quality beer.

Wine with a meal also enhances the food - however this is an acquired taste.

There is an argument for some drink as an ice -breaker if you're at one of these overly stilted corporate or formal affairs

The problem comes from people, particularly young people, who get drunk for the sake of getting drunk and/or need to compete to see how much they can drink, and never mind how the body reacts to it.


I agree that on a short term a cold beer is quite satisfying...but you should also realize that alcohol dehydrates your system, and in a truly hot climate could lead to heat exhaustion or heat stroke. Think about it.
noobcola
pfft...

beers are for deers
windrei
to me, alcohol is just a normal drink.. i do not have any preferences or roles for it. When my mood comes, i'd like to drink. That's what i think. But i really do like drinking it when i am not in good mood, when i am not happy. And i drink those high percentage alcohol fastly when i am frustrated. The feeling is not so good but i can forget everything easily and get fainted on bed. My girlfriend quite worrys me each time i do it. i feel quite sorry to her.....

however, when i cannot fell asleep at night, i drink a small cup too. Then i can sleep easily~
ReubenWilliams
...... it relaxes you, a moderate amount of alcohol actually temporarily increases your intelligence, as you are more able to connect each thought to other more distant thoughts. Even a lot of alcohol plays a part. We live in such intense societies with such intense lives, the bachanaalian orgiastic revelry is time honoured way of blowing off steam.

Release from pressure. A vent. I agree it is not healthy but without alcohol I would not enjoy my life as much as I do.
Vrythramax
ReubenWilliams wrote:
...... it relaxes you, a moderate amount of alcohol actually temporarily increases your intelligence, as you are more able to connect each thought to other more distant thoughts. Even a lot of alcohol plays a part. We live in such intense societies with such intense lives, the bachanaalian orgiastic revelry is time honoured way of blowing off steam.

Release from pressure. A vent. I agree it is not healthy but without alcohol I would not enjoy my life as much as I do.


I don't know, but it really seems that an over-amount of alcohol can really decrease your intelligence.

I have had some horrible experiences due to drunk drivers. Crying or Very sad
standready
Slammer wrote:
Im 17, next year i can legally start drinking (UK). But i doubt it will lol, ive never drank so far, and neither has my girlfriend, we've both tried it at family things nstuff, and didnt like it. We both agree there isnt really much point in it, waste your money to get wasted and then forget it all by the next day. I dont even mean like going out to get drunk. I dont really see the point of it...ever loll.

Some people say it relax's them, i dont need it to relax me, i can relax in other ways. All in all, i dont see the point in drinking. Dont flame me for saying it, its my opinion and i want to know all of yours! Everyones told me, oh just wait till your older then you'll wanna drink. But i really dont see myself doing it. (Btw, im not a wee stuck up person thats all like tea total. I just dont thnk its really needed).


Share your opinion!


Very good, Slammer. I have had my share of alcohol over the years including getting drunk. Now, I usually just leave it. Wisdom of age hasme taught me what you already know. I DON'T NEED IT!
Vrythramax
Very well said Slammer & standready...it's a waste of life and money.

Kudos to you both. Applause
JimmyHoffa1029
Whatever you do dont drink too much =)

~ Jimmy Hoffa Is Still Alive! ~
thealpha
you can drink if you want. but don't drink too much, alcohol is not healthy and you will lose your health if you drink too much. don't leave any chances for you to regret!
xkobram
OK, I am not arguing that alcohol is bad. Its healthy in a little. OK, its bad when drinking more. BUT can everyone stop saying that I'm bad when I drink. It's like rasism.

Same as I could tell, that everyone who likes cola is bad, because cola is worse than alcohol. Maybe it is, maybe not. I dont drink it. I drink alcohol, beer to be accurate. And I'm sixteen. And I've drunk since 14. And i have many friends, who have drunk since 10 or 11. And I dont see mental difference between them and people who doesnt drink.

Of course I dont like people who say: "If you dont drink, your nothing."

Tonight I'm going to party where alcohol is absolutely normal, we have our own 50l barrel of beer (Svijany 11°) and some people - about 3 will get totaly drunk, most of us will get in "good mood" and about 5 are abstinents.

Last year I was on party, where 10 people out of 12 vomited because of alcohol - mostly spirits [is it right word for "hard" alcohol?]. And most of us were at my age 15-16.

Maybe you think we are the most scrofulous part of society. But we aren't, we belong to the "better" part of youth. Most of us goes on select high school, not private, but select - for the best students.
Mr_CEO
Getting drunk is one of the most pointless social exercise on the face of the planet.

I am going to say straight out that people who drink to get drunk are complete idiots. It's that simple. Why waste your money and your body on doing something which you won't remember the next day? And what for? A hangover, possibly an STD, getting into a car accident or falling off a building or something. I have a friend who woke up with a broken arm because she jumped off her roof while drunk and she didn't remember it happening.

There's nothing wrong with having an odd drink to relax or to enjoy the taste - drinking in such a fashion that you retain your senses and can still control your speech and manners (albeit with maybe a small relaxation of your timidity).

Getting drunk is NOT 'cool' and never will be. If getting drunk was cool then tell that to all the families in the world which have been destroyed or broken apart because of alcohol abuse.

You drunkards are just slow.
Vrythramax
Mr_CEO wrote:
Getting drunk is one of the most pointless social exercise on the face of the planet.

I am going to say straight out that people who drink to get drunk are complete idiots. It's that simple. Why waste your money and your body on doing something which you won't remember the next day? And what for? A hangover, possibly an STD, getting into a car accident or falling off a building or something. I have a friend who woke up with a broken arm because she jumped off her roof while drunk and she didn't remember it happening.

There's nothing wrong with having an odd drink to relax or to enjoy the taste - drinking in such a fashion that you retain your senses and can still control your speech and manners (albeit with maybe a small relaxation of your timidity).

Getting drunk is NOT 'cool' and never will be. If getting drunk was cool then tell that to all the families in the world which have been destroyed or broken apart because of alcohol abuse.

You drunkards are just slow.


I personally appreciate the quoted post here...as some of you may know I suffered a great tragedy to my family as a result of a drunk driver just last year. Drinking slows your reaction time significantly, and could cause massive damage to yourself and also to innocent people who may be around you.

If you are determined to drink, show some responsibility before you even start...give up the car keys.
catscratches
I don't see the reason to drink alcoholics at all. Why not just drink other drinks? Like juice. Why alcohol? It certainly doesn't make it taste better, in fact, IMO it's the opposite (I've never drunk something with much alcohol in it but anyway). And to get drunk? What's the point? Funny??? If you can't have fun without drinking then you have no imagination and must be a very boring person.
darrenpaul
I am very much in agreement, I never saw the appeal with alcohol, its no different to any other drink, just costs more and causes a hell of a lot more hassle
a.Bird
To preface, please forgive me for being too lazy to read the last 400 posts if I've reiterated something already mentioned. In regard to the idea of drinking alcohol being a pointless act, I think that's a bit too narrow of a description to really pin down a solid statement about the alcohol culture. I think there are several reasons and ways people drink.

One reason for drinking may be fitting in with one's environment where others are drinking, i.e. social drinking. Another could be because of one growing up in an environment where drinking is accepted and is thus integrated into his or her lifestyle. Another reason may be to relax because alcohol is a depressant- there are hundreds of reasons why one would want to relax.

People also drink differently, some drink a lot quickly, some drink a little bit over the course of a night, and others have one drink every year.

If you are searching for the sole purpose anyone would choose to allow themselves to drink, I don't think you'll find one. Some are born into it and must spend the rest of their lives balancing a healthy lifestyle and the unexplainable thirst for alcohol. Others consciously choose to drink because as citizen of a region that allows it, it's another personal lifestyle choice, which I believe should never be infringed upon as long as that lifestyle choice is well balanced and not a disruption to the lives of others.
JrMac21
Drinking and knowing your limit is important! i don't think that there is anything wrong with having a few drinks now and then.
what disgusts me is the fact that some people use it as an excuse for some things they do after consuming alcohol.

Don't really understand how people can spend so much money drinking till they're totally out of it and don't know what is happening around them.
i got a little drunk at family reunion once, and it was not a nice feeling..
carlospro7
I don't have a problem with drinking. I don't drink very often. I will every once in a while to be social. I think for social activities it can be a very fun thing to do. Before college, I always thought I was never going to do it, but I decided to try it to see what the big deal was, and ended up having a lot of fun. I personally don't like the taste of alcohol, but I have a better tolerance for it now. And when you drink, it doesn't mean you have a get wasted. I hate it when people think that. I drink to be social and to have fun, but never to get drunk although I have been there, but that way you get to know your tolerance, and how much you can take and you learn when enough is enough
secondeye
Well Seriously i hate these kind of people who drunk alcohol a lot, Well In my religion its not Allowed but when i saw people Around me they are looking weird and shows a very very bad impression On children, Well alcoholic people don't know about their Living standard and fall very back in their business world... Well avoid Drugs and alcohol as it harm to your and other lives
Mighty_King
I honestly think that it's a good thing for people to get laid back during a party and such. However, the thing is with this is that people must keep their drinking moderate. Like, you could have 1 glass if you were going to drive, but not 15 glasses if you were going to drive; You shouldn't take in tons of alchohol if you're going to be on a date, etc. Basically just use your common sense as to how much you should drink alchohol for that night.
sivakumar
Whenever I have beer the next day I find myself healthy.I don't know the reason behind that and if I drink any other alcohol I can't find the same healthiness.
Tatsumaru
I don't touch alcohol because there's no need to, I don't care about the little health improvements red wine or whatever is supposed to give you when you drink a little of it - people drink it for fun and to get drunk most of the time anyway. Alcohol is one of the things that ruins a lot in life, in my opinion. I have nothing against people drinking really, as long as they're in control of themselves and don't go break stuff or kill someone.
Utopia GFR
As long as I don't get sick while drinking alcohol, having a sip sounds ok to me Very Happy

Now, I did experience several student parties where most people got wasted (including me) definitively exaggerating the dose of alcohol.

To quite an extent, this kind of social behavior can be funny but the consequences are known to everyone... hangover, ulcer, deviance resulting in uncontrolled action, agressevity that could be easily avoided by rectricting yourself to a reasonable number of drinks.

Drinking alcohol should not be considered as a highly competitive issue but more like an enjoyable moment where people get to taste or drink delicious beverages from the four corners of the World.

Since videos have appeared on the Internet, lots of people make fun of drunk individuals, I recall some russian teenager drinking down pure non-distilled vodka... what a mess Confused
Ducksteina
Drinking makes life more fun...

I can't imagine a party without alcohol. It simply doesn't work for me. With alcohol, everybody is more fun and talks more.
A glass of sparkling whine makes a good meal perfect, a cool beer on a hot day is just awesome, etc... there are so many situations that require alcohol.
Of course, you shouldn't drink too much, but there's nothing to say against a bit alcohol.
Fake
I think alcohol taken in moderation can be enjoyed by everyone
GSIS
"Everything in moderation" can't be a bad thing.

I rarely drink alcohol now, though, as I have some kidney and liver problems from a serious illness a few years ago. If I drink more than a couple of glasses of wine, or have a beer, I can't metabolise the alcohol properly and can't stay awake for about 2 or 3 days. Laughing
kiranaghor
Well, I am a Hepatitis B carrier. So for me alocohol is a strict no-no. I never thought I would be infected with that virus. One should always check if s/he has HBV, expecially u are regular alcohol consumer.
Asaes
alchol is bad Laughing No Drinking Very Happy
LukeZone
Its a difficult topic.

Originally, I am from Switzerland. There I can drink and do whatever I want to do. But its not the same here in the USA. The have so strange rules with the alcohol. Unbelievable. The police will arrest the hole club if someone under 21 will drink alcohol.

My experiences with alcohol goes back to my age of 14. Then I first drank wine. I really like it and I still enjoy a good wine to a good meal.
biljap
I use alcohol very rarely… Only on some special occasions and only in small quantities. I just don’t like it and I don’t want it to be a part of my life.
aprivateaccount
i'm 19 in singapore which makes me legal to drink,
a gin martini rocks my world anytime!
or a dom perignon. (;
BvG_Loyalty
Well, in MY opinion, we humans shouldn't consume alcohol ... Please don't flame me ... Smile
Vrythramax
BvG_Loyalty wrote:
Well, in MY opinion, we humans shouldn't consume alcohol ... Please don't flame me ... Smile


No one is going to flame you for voicing an honest opinion Smile
medievalman26
I don't like it but it does provide interesting stories so you have to like it for that. It should be left the way it is.
ftv_flung
I only tend to drink socially with my friends at parties and get-togethers etc.

We'll usually drink beers and we used to go to a shisha bar and have a few shots and a (few) bottle(s) of white wine etc. - but the bar made an No Under 21s policy which is shiiiit.

Anyway, I hate saying this, "Everyone is different" and all that jazz".

I didn't really like the taste of beer at first. I still don't like a few, they're just made in different ways.

I've been drinking for a few years, never thrown up and never been totally drunk - I'm sensible, lol.
exarkun
Well it is quite obvious that something like drinking is essential in your life. You won't be able to shy away from it totally, like the need to entertain your clients in the future. Where would you go? Well maybe a pub or something.
Zombie
Alcohol can be relatively harmless when used in moderation, yet so can anything addicting. Personally, Alcohol, like smoking, is a bad habit I am never going to get into. Unless someone cool does it at college... jk lol peer pressure ain't got nothing on me! AAAAAHHH!!!!!
tempdbs
I donot take Alcohol... But drinking with some limits i.e., Moderately is the suggestion that i'll do for all alcoholics.

Thats all... No more comments and argues.........
virre
I have drunk alchol,

I would have drunk to much alcohol if I could afford it in those days, but I couldn't, otherwise I would have been an alcholic... Or maybe I was, one day I wake up and had beer but not food and no money, after that I haven't drunk ever again. I realised I was going down a bad path.

Today I am an organised Teetoller...

The points to way you shouldn't drink even if you don't have trouble is well first of solidarity, and second of by drinking you make alchol easier to access for those who have problems, and those who is to young to acctualy drink.

The cost of alchol to society is gigantic.

Besides if you ban some drugs, why not ban all of them?

At least a more controlled amount of alchol would be better. Makeing sure that you can't buy alchol in stores (well we only have one type of store for this in Sweden, so it's a bit easier hear) makes domestic violence go down and possible will help some kid from seeing there parrents drunk and out of there mind. Well probably not, but that would be good wouldn't it.
tempdbs
Quote:
The cost of alchol to society is gigantic.


May be you are true......... It provides more income for the nations.

But as you think that you are doing some great things for the Nations and keep on drinking the Alcohol. Firstly you'll die without any further notices......

Hope keep that limit for joy and happiness but donot exceed the over hangs......... It will kill you......! Embarassed
304esque
Soulfire wrote:
I tasted it and thought it was the most disgusting thing. So I probably won't drink hardly at all. I don't like the fact that at my high school, drinking is a HUGE problem. The teachers know it, the coaches know it, even the prinicipal knows it - yet none of them do anything. One cheerleader got caught for minor in possession and all she did was sit out for like 1 game.

The school just doesn't care if they're drinking, smoking, out having sex, whatever... So long as they come to school and make practices. It's a shame really, and the only reason everyone does it is because the "cool" kids do it and you have to drink to be "popular." We've already lost 5 students this year though, all to auto accidents, but luckily drinking hasn't been a factor in any of them... I hope it never is, I hope things like that end.

My impression of alcohol is VERY VERY bad indeed.


someone could always ring up the ministry.

I would have, if i was in your shoes. But I'd also get ready to move school. Or state.
flatliner
Well my comments gona be short and not every indeepet as I dont really have a strong opion on the subject, but I am 17 and have been drinking since I was 15. (oh and I am also Irish ha Laughing ) Most of my firends drink and I love drinking, great buzz out of it and it just makes a night so much better, well for me anyway.

I know it isnt the best thing to be taking, but nor is cola, pure acid ha. I dont drink anymore then I need to be on a buzz (well somtimes I have gone abit over bord ha) like this saturday night I am heading out to the pub for a while till the bar close at 11.30 and then we all heading into a nite club. In the cource of the night I will probly have about 5 pints in the pub and about 4 or so shots of everything and anything and one or 2 alco pops in the niteclub. I am happy to do this and I love it, best crack ever!!

So there is my short and abit disjointed and not very strong comment. ha ha well it is 01:54am and I am really really tired ha.
Vladalf
My parents let me try beer, wine and other things but I don't like them. Razz I tried once and it had bad taste.
zichlone
I drink occasionaly not to get drunk but to just relax and talk with friends.

the worst alcohol ever is jagermeiaster i dont care what any of you say but then again if you mix it with monster its delicious
silverdown
Next year ill be 21 the legal age in the USA to drink however im not ready to try that only because it not very interesting to me. It will also keep my from getting DUI's alot as well. If you drink responsibly there should be no problem! Very Happy
Kamo
I'm 24 and never ever was drunk - i don't even like beer.
It's just stupid same as smoking.
Liu
Kamo wrote:
I'm 24 and never ever was drunk - i don't even like beer.
It's just stupid same as smoking.

You must live a very exciting life.
skygaia
When I was a university student, I had really drunk so much. In my memory, I had drunk every day and a lot, usually 10~15 bottles of beer.
As a result, as soon as I graduated from the university, I had to go a hospital and stay for couple weeks. As you know, too much drink is not good. every one thinks he/she could control him/herself during drinking. well.. sometime it's possible but sometimes not.
carlospro7
In the US, the drinking age should be lowered to 18. So I can slowly kill myself by smoking, but I can't drink? sure sure, many people have used those arguments, but 18 is a good enough age for people to realize that drinking and driving is not the best idea, although it does happen, but, people in their forties still make awful decisions. I think the drinking age should be lowered. Nonetheless, most people are smart and make better decisions, like not to drive while drunk, so what's the problem? it's going to be any different, lower the age.
friuser
drinking impairs judgement. It shouldn't be lowered as most people who will drink at 18 will also drive. It's the thinking that people are smart nowadays that won't drink and drive but it's absolutely not true. People aren't smart enough and most laws are too lenient on people that drive intoxicated even if they were caught before they cause property damage or worst endanger people's lives. I mean there's just so much out there warning about drinking and driving. If you going to do that and cause someone harm or death... you are a murderer.

I drink rarely and I don't really get the appeal. People should drink less and also smoke less. It's better for everyone concerned.
Kamo
Liu wrote:
Kamo wrote:
I'm 24 and never ever was drunk - i don't even like beer.
It's just stupid same as smoking.

You must live a very exciting life.


You can't even imagine.
xkobram
carlospro7 wrote:
In the US, the drinking age should be lowered to 18. So I can slowly kill myself by smoking, but I can't drink? sure sure, many people have used those arguments, but 18 is a good enough age for people to realize that drinking and driving is not the best idea, although it does happen, but, people in their forties still make awful decisions. I think the drinking age should be lowered. Nonetheless, most people are smart and make better decisions, like not to drive while drunk, so what's the problem? it's going to be any different, lower the age.


I don't think you can't drink. (Never been in US so sorry if I have bad opinion) The problem is with legality of drinking - don't tell me you can't buy alcohol anywhere or can't get beer in restaurant.

Maybe I'm wrong, but in Czech rep. I have no problem with getting alcohol (I'm 16, drinking age in CZ 1Cool, I can go to pub and order beer. Some of my friends uses some tricks like borrowing ¨driving license from someone else. I don't do it, if i cant get beer I go somewhere else.

The problem is, that underage drinking isn't illegal, but selling or giving alcohol to underage. Police rarely supervise that.
iamarun
My personal view is,

Alcohol is nothing but waste of time, money, energy and more over health.

Its is a temporary enjoyment. Its something you are not satisfied with little.
when you have little for the first time its ok but then the next time you will need more than what you had for the first time and there is no end.

in the beginning we think alcohol is in our but ultimately we will be under Alcohol's control.

Its just very simple, till we have it its in our hands and we decide what to do with, we can have or we can throw it or we can use it to burn something etc, but once when we have it its takes control of us and i promise you will never be able to control it once it is consumed.

some can say i can control myself even after i consume and then what they do is they take little more and it goes on till we loose ourselves in the hands of alcohol with some disease or sickness.

At last the we come to a place where alcohol starts to consume our strength, time and money and also our life.

so friends i am telling you with experience let not be the servants of alcohol but be the survivals.
sgonzales
i'm 29 years old and stopped drinking alcohol about a year ago. i have rosacea and turn REALLY red when i drink. my friend calls it "the asian flush" it's quite embarassing! but to tell you the truth- i don't really miss it at all and do NOT miss the hangovers.
damn
i like Alcohol, i think that if you drink with dosage, that's ok.
Hunterseaker
There is nothing wrong with alcohol, just don't drink it too much.
I don't drink very often, just because I don't like many alcoholic beers. I can enjoy myself without alcohol too, So I don't need it. But there is nothing wrong with people who do drink....
I just think it is wrong to drink to get drunk, or drink to be cool...
the-guide
That can be a drug if you drink too much, waste your money, waste your time, beat your health, cause an accident, etc. and you can be a murder easily if you drive after drunk.

However it's not wrong if you like to drink because it's a little pleasure for yourself when you have a party or something like that, but never drink too much.
rlzd
I think that It is good in normal amounts. When people start taking to much, it can easily slip and get out of hand.
+, many die in car accidents when they have been drinking alcohole before.
miacps
Hmm.. I never knew there were so many people out there that were so against drinking(ie. its a waste of money,time,health..).

It's not for everyone, that I can agree on. I really enjoy drinking with friends, its fun (though indulging in a certain herb with a few close friends can be even more enjoyable and less hazardous, especially when super smash bros is involved! Wink ).

One thing I don't understand is how anyone can become dependant on alcohol. I can never go out and drink day after day. I always feel put off by alcohol for at least a few days after I drink, even if its not much.

As for being a waste of money, well that depends on what you mean. I always go for the cheap $1.89 for 32 ounces and I'm good to go! Cool
ChrisCh
I don't really have a problem with alcohol, even if it is being drunk underage... I live in Australia, and over here the law says you have to be 18 to *buy* alcohol, but if police find you *drinking* alcohol at a private party, they won't take it off you and you're not in trouble with the law! ... but strangely enough, it's illegal for an adult to supply a minor with alcohol, so the only way to obtain it truly legally is to *accidentally* find it at home!

But still, there's not really anything wrong with it in my opinion Very Happy
heinrich666
I think the legal age should stay at 21.
louderthanbombs
Yeah drinking is really worth it, even if you have fun the night before the hangover the next day sucks and makes it not worth it. I can see how some drinking can be good socially and fun but their are too many people who rely on it and use drinking as a crutch.
mrimp
I don't really mind about drinking. The only thing it's good for (well for me) is getting rid of my restrictions( sorry for forgetting the real word) like shyness. One thing that angers me is that my friends mum is always drunk and always shouts at her.
Josso
Been drinking since I was 14. Legal age is 18 over here, for those of you who were not aware. Some places say "If you look under 21 we will ask for ID" which basically means if you are 18 and don't look 21 at the same time you might be asked for ID. I can buy alcohol without any problems over here, I still look 16 but some people simply don't care.
newso
I dont have a problem with alcholol as such. Its ok if drank sensible. However when it starts to effect the people around you then it is really bad. Cases like this seem to become more common. Something should be in place to stop this.
medievalman26
I'm not as think as you drunk I am. Seriously though as I said before the trick is moderation. I do find drunk people very entertaining. Recently I discovered that a character in World of Warcraft can get drunk it was actually very amusing to see. I am disappointed that drinking and alcohol are that ingrained in our society as to appear in a video game and make something so bad seem to be a good thing.
sabe
I don't know about other countries but in the US more than 1/2 of the crime is either a result of or increased by the use of alcohol. Because of it's use with other drugs etc. I think that it is the worst drug . Yes, it it legal. That does not make it correct.

I understand the origin because it was safe when drinking water was not. This does not make it right. I know we can't rid the world of it but we need to realize that it is a drug. You feel high because it is a poison in your system. There is nothing in it that you can't get from other things like grape juice etc.

Thats all for now Mad
cpebatch2007_CIT
I enjoy drinking occasionally with my friends, way of our bonding....
PIbrothers
Meh, I don't like it so I stay away from it.
blind_underwear
I've only gotten trashed like 2 or 3 times in my life and only enjoyed it once. It really does seem like a waste of time and money. I have a friend that just turned 21 and she has lost her damn mind now. She drinks all the time and actually wrecked my bathroom with her puke and still has yet to clean it like she said she would. I really just prefer drinking like a glass or two of wine, or drink a enough good beer to get a slight buzz. It's also nice to smoke a few cigarettes while you drink, it makes the buzz just that much better. My wife is about the same as me, except she used to go WAY overboard like her friend all the time a few years ago.
starngao
I'm not a drinker. take a little drink is good for your healthy ,Moderation is key
hofodomo01
i think it's pretty nice and fun having a cocktail with your friends at a party...or wine with a nice dinner.

i've never really gotten into beer and just the whole "drinking for the hell of it" idea that some of my friends are fond of =/
JBotAlan
I do not have a problem with people drinking in moderation, but because of the condition of my body, the most I'll have to drink at any point (once I'm old enough) is no more than a few sips. It could have a *bad* interaction with my heart meds...and that just isn't worth it. Plus, I hate the idea of having a clouded mind.

Just my $0.02
JBot
pronez
I have never drinked a single drop of alcohol.
fredrikjruud
pronez wrote:
I have never drinked a single drop of alcohol.

Do you believe me if I say "me too"?
rheanna
Rolling Eyes I'm a big Jagermeister drinker but I'm thinking of quitting. Stuff is starting to make me sick. lol
thejam
Although i love a drink once in a while, i also know it f#ckes up quite some things aswell.
I Never really understood why everyone is allways so keen on fighting drug-use, but don't seem to bother about alcohol so much (while more people use it, and its sociallly accepted aswell)
Especially in countries where alcohol is used to show hospitality or traditionwise make people drink (read: force people to drink) next to recreative alcoholconsumtion.
It slowly becomes normal in a daily life pattern easily, because people seem to accept it.
I am cool with it, but i still be carefull about the amounts of consumption.
KronikSindrome
got any? hooke me up! -lol-

I think drinking RESPONSIBLY can be a fun, relaxing, enhancment to ADULT life.

know your limits, never put yourself in danger, and party on wayne Twisted Evil

now where's my free beer? there was a free beer for posting right?

heh
PatTheGreat42
I've seen way too many people drink to excess. I wouldn't suggest it.
Josso
Josso wrote:
Been drinking since I was 14. Legal age is 18 over here, for those of you who were not aware. Some places say "If you look under 21 we will ask for ID" which basically means if you are 18 and don't look 21 at the same time you might be asked for ID. I can buy alcohol without any problems over here, I still look 16 but some people simply don't care.


I take this back slightly, apparently I do look 18 these days.
unknownc1c
I've never drank anything till this year, and i've only done it one. Drinking just to get wasted is stupid, but drinking socially isn't bad in my opinion.

Also just so you know, you don't always forget what happened, you only forget what happens if you get completely wasted. If your just a little drunk or just have a buzz going on then your fine when it comes to remembering stuff.

Also i can understand why some people might want to get drunk, it's not really that it relaxes you, it's more that it helps you forget things and have a better time. You might not need to drink and see it as stupid, but you probably don't have that many problems in your life. I can almost guarentee your life isn't that bad at all because at least you have a girlfriend so it can't be all that bad, but for people who are alone with a lot of bad memories i could understand why they might drink a lot. I don't think it's right to drink a lot, but they could at least drink from time to time to help them have a good time and make some good memories to out weigh the bad ones.
Donutey
Moderation is key seems to be the running theme here, which I completely agree with. I think anyone who schedules say a day of the week to get drunk, or seeks out parties to get drunk (not just to go to the party), is definitely not drinking in moderation.
inventor
I live in the US, where legal age is 21. In my opinion the legal age should be changed to 18.
The legal smoking age is 18 and there are many studies that show smoking does more damage to your health than drinking. The only problem is that people who do stupid things after drinking, like driving.
gtipple
I am a college student, so alcohol is everywhere. In the beginning, I used to drink at parties all the time. It was for the most part a positive experience. It makes everyone a lot more social, and takes a way a lot of the tension in meeting new people. Also, it is fun to get drunk with some old buddies and have some "good ol' fun". Jack Daniels had a good billboard, "Jack Daniels: Turning nights into stories since __." I don't remember the date, but its not important. I don't drink nearly as much as I used to (now over 21) but I am glad that I drank when I was younger (18+). It wasn't legal (US) but then again, I have a few stories running out of parties busted by cops Wink and other near misses. I respect people who choose not to drink, and people that got get drunk at parties, to some extent. Moderation is key. I maintained a good GPA, worked half time, and had my fun.
JustCarol
Personally I truly dislike all kind of all Alcoholic drinks. I knoe many people that started to drink at an early age calling it "socially" and then end up loosing control. I have some cases of alcohol abuse in my family and I can tell you that all them started with people saying that drinking is cool, is nice, that's nothing wrong with that.

I think is pretty wrong though. Another silly thing that has been created to make us spend our money... it relax? I don't know how a night full of drinks can be more relaxing then go to bed earlier and sleep well. Not mentioning the bad taste...!

I just think that even if people drink because it's a pleasure or whatever I don't see what's the point. I mean there are a lot of other pleasures that people just don't enjoy!

But that's just my opinion.... Smile
Coen
I have nothing against alcoholic drinks. I like a beer every now and then or some wine with a meal. Key is not to drink to much and drink wisely. Don't overdo it or get drunk. Young children should be taught how to deal with alcohol, I think that would prevent a lot of problems.
LeatherRose
Slammer wrote:
... Share your opinion!

i'm from the u.s. so i can't start drinking untill i'm 21 and i'm 19 now. i was drinking when i was 17. always socialy though and still i hardly drink unless it's socialy
Dbarkol
More tea or coffee.less alcohol Razz
heartbeat
coffe ins't good as well. between coffee and alcohol is a tough choice!! both can be worse than the other depending on the usage habits! alcoholl is to strong if you want a gentler hight just smoke cannbis Wink
thebattler36
i'm from the UK as well, i am 14 but enjoy a glass of champagne at family events: weddings, christmas etc. i only ever have 1 glass and only ever intend to have 1 glass. i find the taste rather refreshing and enjoy drinking it, although i wouldn't like to have too much ever (i'm too sensible XD Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes )
waikiki
hey psichosquirl like ur site..thanks for the maps ur great Cool
cLean
Alcohol is awesome.. If it wasn't for alcohol every other person would be on major drugs... and probably people that don't approve of alcohol would be hypocrite's and smoke weed or some sort of drug! But don' think i'm an alcoholic I'm not I do drink I probably drink more than just socially. Its not good for my body I know this! But I love drinking and Coding!.

I really believe Alcohol Age Limit should be lowered to 18 OR When you enter The service you should be able to Drink a beer. That is really Messed up i know allot of people think the same and allot of Sites are based off this! The age limit of Alcohol and The Goods and Bads of it! Maybe you should browse that site Some interesting stuff just search on Google and Read couple of them!

I use to Drink quite abit more than i do now! I was younger and loving every bit of my life, some luv huh? lol. But I partied every chance i got and when i went to college it was on! Everyday before and after class Probably averaged about a case a day or at least 12 - 15 brews on my 21st b-day I went too 3 bars Very Happy

But overall Alcohol saves some people until they die of liver saroecis ( h/o you spell that disease ) You wonder how? Because it allows some people be relaxed and not go out and do stupid stuff. AND on the other hand it makes some people do stupid things.. Those shouldn't drink and thats what makes Alcohol have a bad name!

Don't hate on me! Everyone has their own opinions So just stay on topic and don't flame me kthx!

Love! JM
thejam
Alcohol is the most dangerous addictive substance available right now. The problem is that its socially accepted. Everywhere arround the world people start to be ban smoking in public areas and bars. Most drugs are pretty illegal. Alcohol however is not considered as a real big problem.
Don't get me wrong i love a drink and i don't want to have it banned from bars or supermarkets. The only problem is that the border of becoming an addict and just for enjoyment is pretty vague.
I have quite some friends who seemed to croos this border, and its just not cool. They don't consider it as a problem, but as a thing which comes along with their livestyles. in the meantime they are loosing girls over it, are less productive (cause they sleep their hangover all day) and spend shitloads of money. And still don't consider it as a problem. So again, i am not here to talk bad about alcohol, but there should be more information to people who are facing this border.
emem
Of course it is not healthy but in reasonable amounts it can be good, relaxing, especially when in society Smile
salman_500
its baaad !

it can cause deaths ! thats why its banned in Islam !
Sphaerenkern
Yeah, I don't like all the guys telling me "oh look how drunk I was and what idiotic things I did!"... I mean, I like parties and concerts, but not being drunk and doing shit.
It seems to me that some of them have quite big problems so they have to get drunk to forget them...
futureal123
I don't like it, it's a stupid measure on how popular or daring you are.
Josso
thebattler36 wrote:
i'm from the UK as well, i am 14 but enjoy a glass of champagne at family events: weddings, christmas etc. i only ever have 1 glass and only ever intend to have 1 glass. i find the taste rather refreshing and enjoy drinking it, although i wouldn't like to have too much ever (i'm too sensible XD Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes )


This is amusing, this was pretty much my exact viewpoint at 14.
vineeth
I like cold beer a lot but its not for relaxation. Its just a party drink to freak around with friends. I WILL NEVER recommend anyone to start drinking.. Its a bad habit, even i do so.
ZenFountain
My view is, I love it! More in moderation nowadays though Very Happy
riv_
I find it rather odd that drinking alcohol is socially acceptable at all. Really, to consume a toxin to achieve an altered state of consciousness while socializing - because it's "fun". Its really a bizarre thing.

But then, it seems to satisfy a real human need. Humans have been taking in mind altering substances all the way back!

Personally, I'm not a drinker. I'm not particularly inhibited without alcohol, so I don't really need it to loosen up. And I like to be in control. If I'm going to act like an idiot (which I do sometimes) I want to know I'm doing it, and to remember it in the morning!
intruder_indeed
My advice on alcohol is drink it. No but seriously I do like to go out for a drink from time to time, but I never drink in the house. I can take it and leave it, and I suppose im lucky in that way. As were other peeps are quite easily addicted to the stuff, and I've seen enouugh people die through alcohol abuse. Me myself I like a few pints and a chat down my local. I drink in moderation and over the last 30 years of drinking I have only been drunk around 10 times tops, and them occassions were in my younger adalecent years. I have never been keen on spirits, and only drink beer at my local. I only ever go out for the last hour or 2 and consume anywhere from 4 to 6 pints tops.
ainieas
I don't drink but I got nothing against people who do. Most of my friends are downright drunk on Friday nights. But I don't go preaching that they should stop drinking and save themselves. Its all indivisual choices I believe.
secondeye
Don't think you really need to drink.
Try to be cool, eat choclate, enjoy it and you'll like it much more. Or try some Good Freshy Meal Like Pizzas.
Drink is not healthy at all, and it has its damage effects on brain with time.
I hate drinking. Don't drink. It's bad for you.

Smoke some marijuana instead!! HEHEHEH Laughing
asim
Many of us drink alcohol, and we enjoy it when we do. But it's also true that drinking is a calculated risk, and the healthiest thing a person could do is to have little or none.

Other than the antioxidants found in red wine, alcoholic beverages do nothing good for your body (and it's easy to supplement antioxidants through vitamin E and other nutrients). They're empty calories that convert quickly to sugars, taking your metabolism through a slump, and leaving you with a hangover of unwanted weight. A single drink - one beer, four ounces of wine, or a one-ounce shot of liquor - kills neurons by depriving them of oxygen: you feel that rosy glow because cells in your brain are drowning. Women metabolize alcohol more slowly than men, so its nasty effects last longer. Drinking weakens the immune system and increases the risk of heart disease, diabetes, cirrhosis of the liver, and cancer. If a mother drinks too much, it's no good for her children, either: among other problems, it feels to them like she isn't really "there," even though her body is in the room.
so according to me alcohol is never good... watever
Traveller
My view on alcohol is usually through a bottle. Wink

Seriously: As with anything else, with the right to drink alcohol comes the responsibility not to harm or endanger anyone else. I have never been drunk, and am not an alcoholic, but I am drinking some sherry (Amontillado Elegante from Gonzalez Byass - delicious!) right now, even as I type this. On the other hand, if someone wants to get drunk, okay, just as long as they don't get into a fight, drive a vehicle, operate heavy machinery, or do anything else that could injure or kill people or animals, or cause damage to anyone else's property.

It's really just common sense but, as they say, common sense isn't, necessarily, all that common any more.
Bryan_Bezzle
Yeah I view alcohol for the short time before it enters my tummy. and uhhh..dont drink and drive! or..operate heavy machinery...you know..under the influence.


sorry im a little toasted as we speak
Summer
i don't like alcohol. they're bitter. and i feel bad when i drink. and I don't think alcohol and relax ourselves or some kinds of purpose for drinking that. they caused accidents too.
rvbarreto
You dont need to get drunk to enjoy drinking. I use to drink bier or wine every day. Each day a diferent kind of flavor, frangancy and color. When you start to drink alcohol, you can't realy enjoy it, but with time you start to feel the taste on a diferent way.

There are many kind of biers from many countrys, and it's really a plasure to meet each one of them, and you never get drunk. You drink one somedays, with some food and start to apreciate.

The same with wine. A lot of diferent kind and prices to.

Medicines says that a "cup" of wine every day is good to your heart and bier is good to get your colesterol down.

The important is to apreciate, but moderate.
PatTheGreat42
I think over here in the good ole' US of A, that they should lower the drinking age to 18 for those currently active in the military. 'Cause by golly, old enough to die, old enough to drink. Plus, it might boost enlistment numbers.
goutha
Moderation, moderation, and moderation.

A glass of wine once every week ou two is enough.

Beer, whisky, etc... are weight ganers... Wine is a noble alcohol and it's not as dangerous as other alcohol. But again. No more then one galss a week.
zahir
psycosquirrel wrote:
Drinking is okay in moderation. I'm 17 also, but I can't legally drink until I am 21 (I'm in the USA).


im 16 alcoholic drinks are bad for health..it says that it helps to relax but in reality it destroys us.its like a trojan.'drunkards do not sleep well and they smell bad.same for smokers
nivre
alcohol just bring life when you youre friends are hanging out or what....
but it requires moderation...
it's fun specially when everyone is drinking, because everyone seems true to their self...
just have fun, don't over do it if you try someday...
sjohnson
I drink occasionally. I probably average about one drink every three to four months. I see nothing wrong with drinking as long as it is in moderation. I don't think it's right to get drunk.

As for me...I like the sweeter drinks. I like the kick that alcohol can give to a sweet drink. I don't like the dry drinks such as martinis. Too much for me.
Thumpercats
I think drinking is great as long as you do it with responsibility. It is a great way to losen up and have a great time. When else do you get to use a widely accepted excuss for doing somthing stupid. "sorry bout last night I was drunk." It is like a mask that enables you to do whatever you want to, and people will not judge you poorly unless you become a huge acholic.
andy26
Slammer wrote:
Im 17, next year i can legally start drinking (UK). But i doubt it will lol, ive never drank so far, and neither has my girlfriend, we've both tried it at family things nstuff, and didnt like it. We both agree there isnt really much point in it, waste your money to get wasted and then forget it all by the next day. I dont even mean like going out to get drunk. I dont really see the point of it...ever loll.

Some people say it relax's them, i dont need it to relax me, i can relax in other ways. All in all, i dont see the point in drinking. Dont flame me for saying it, its my opinion and i want to know all of yours! Everyones told me, oh just wait till your older then you'll wanna drink. But i really dont see myself doing it. (Btw, im not a wee stuck up person thats all like tea total. I just dont thnk its really needed).


Share your opinion!


im in the UK and the Drinking age is 18+ not 17??? but anyway, im 18 and i do drink alcohol but not often i dont think you should abuse alcohol to wasted and so drunk you dont remember what happend, but i dont see whats wrong with a casual drink with your friends.
redchic
it's nice to have in moderation and every so often. i love vodka but i've never been drunk and can't stand ppl who make it a habit
dangerdog
replying to this post was kind of iffy, i think i'll get flayed alive for being an alcoholic. :p i'm also fairly certain that most people posting here would think of that word and get an image of someone who stumbles around in grungy clothes taking swigs from a liquor bottle in a brown paper bag. that's so not me. i'm not even that obnoxious drunk guy with no boundaries - i don't think drinking every day is a statement of excess. all of the excess is in the frequency, not the amounts. i don't kill a fifth in a night and then pass out on the floor after speaking in tongues.

somebody in this post said 'smart people don't drink', which is a flawed statement. while giving in to daily drinking and alcoholism is not an intelligent thing to do, i don't think that intelligent people are exempt from making stupid mistakes.

my brother is 29, schizophrenic, and a raging alcoholic for many years now. he's also the most intelligent man i've ever known. they wanted him to start college when he was 13, but his mom wouldn't let him. looking back on that now, i think things might've been different for him if he had. instead, he dropped out very young, got a GED, and now rides cycles of getting amazing and well-paying jobs, having a drinking/schizo episode, losing said job, and cycling until he cleans up to start over.

my father is probably the second most intelligent man i've ever known, and he drinks every night. he's also as crazy as the day is long, and he's not one of the distasteful drinkers you hear other people talking about. he's never angry or violent, just kind of silly, and he drinks every night.

my father and brother drink to hide from their demons. it doesn't work, those things are still there tomorrow, but it's a temporary fix. for some short time, you don't feel them, and you don't think about them, but that's the basic problem with escapism - when it all comes back and you have to actually face it, it's not any easier. sometimes, it's just a whole lot harder, so you just keep running away.

i never thought i would be much of a drinker. i didn't drink in high school, i didn't drink after high school, and i had plenty of opportunity after i moved out of my parents' house at 16. not that i didn't have opportunity before, but being on your own is a new kind of freedom. i just wasn't interested. not until i was older. not until i discovered the escapist mentality.

these days, i drink every night. i work in a bar, and i somehow justify to myself that i don't drink the way a lot of those people do, but that's not right. i don't drink like the rest of them do, either - the reasonable ones. i don't always want to drink, but i always do. when i feel especially stressed, i respond to it with small bouts of binge drinking, 12 to 18 hours at a time, and the problems are always still there when you come back from it.

drinking does not improve my life. it allows me to put off until tomorrow all of the stress and the worries, but those things always come back. i feel very poorly a lot of mornings, my health suffers to a degree, everyone has lots of ridiculous stories about me, and my boyfriend broke up with me on my birthday because i drink too much.

yes, i know i spend a lot of money on a habit, and i'm aware that my liver probably cries itself to sleep at night wishing i would stop. and i wish it were just that easy. for the record, i've never done anything i wouldn't have done sober, i don't drink myself to vomiting, and i don't believe in drunk driving.


i wouldn't tell anybody that they should never drink. i'm aware that most people are not like me, and wouldn't find themselves so comfortable in this position or getting to this position, and that's good. drinking socially is neither a crime nor a sin - a couple of drinks with friends can make for a lot of good conversation and fun times. however, it should be done in pursuit of a good time, not to get away from things that are bad, and moderation is the key (just like with everything in life).

it doesn't seem like most of you are in danger of taking the wrong road with the drinking. Just do it in moderation if you're going to do it, and don't hate. you don't know why that person drinks every day, and criticizing them for it isn't going to make them suddenly able to cope and stop drinking.
cloudship
emmm, i do not have addiction to alcohol, but I like to drink RUM, and also prefer ice cream in RUM taste. It makes me feel like kissing, lol
bonestorm74
It's probably a good thing if you don't drink. It will save you money and your health.

It's a subjective thing though. It's like eating broccoli, some people love it and other hate it. It come down to personal taste, and a lot of people love alcohol, and the effect it brings. It's a drug after all.
jerredk
Drinking isn't bad. But don't go to far. You don't need to be drunk. Thats a problem of much young ppl. They don't know whene to stop. Just drink normal. Laughing
missdixy
I had rum for the first time ever last weekend, with some coca-cola, and dear Lord it was delicious.
radzz
have decided that alcohol doesn't make me feel very good about myself. Whenever I go out and drink, or stay in with a drink I feel really sad and depressed about life, even after one. Gin is the worst and even after one glass of wine now, I feel crap.
I used to work in an office where we went out every Friday after work and got wankered, but since I left about four months ago, i just haven't felt like drinking. I'm also really embarassed by things that have happened in the past when I've been pissed.

My mates say that I shouldn't deny myself the odd glass of wine if I ever really wanted chill out and not to make rigid rules for myself, as I'm thinking of becoming teetotal (- anyone who knows me will laugh!!) I do worry a lot about what people think, especially when I'm pissed and whether or not I'm making myself look stupid, but alcohol gives me confidence, like anyone else I spose. Sad
PatTheGreat42
My views on alcohol are very distored and vague. If you really want to know what viewing on alcohol is like, I recommend these beer goggle things they have. They simulate what it's like, but without the pleasure of drinking and then waking up with some girl you don't know.
raine dragon
I don't drink. I don't really see the point, to be honest. I act like an idiot enough without being intoxicated, thank you muchly. ^^;

I don't mind others drinking, in moderation. When people start to get obnoxious or puke on me, I start to have an issue with it. >.>;;
doppleganger
one mans medicine is another mans poison
well i am 33 and i definitely drink occassionaly
hofodomo01
Nothing wrong with a nice little drink. Though if it's up to the point of you doing "insensible" things...then you're just not being responsible then...
secondeye
Whiskey? uhhhgggahhh
The last go round with the hard stuff left me paralized in my drive way (no I wasn't driving Shame on you) to me that Was just to see if i liked it..........

i Wont be trying again too soon. I did'nt spend all day for resources you can find. Infact, you can find me some usefully reason to drink Shocked , beside the medical reasons. I already know them, all these problems arising from alocholism but also thatalochol distroys the body of a man....

i'd better do this than drink
thinkfacility
I used to be against alcohol, but now I'm not so sure. I think that everyone should experience it once just to see what it's like, but it should definitely be taken in moderation. Accidentally overdosing is definitely not a fun experience.
KronikSindrome
the three beers i had tonight hit the spot Very Happy
DEVLiN
It is a necessity for me, but i am fine with everyone who does not drink aslong as they can enjoy themselves among pissed drunk people. LOL
Gieter
riv_ wrote:
I find it rather odd that drinking alcohol is socially acceptable at all. Really, to consume a toxin to achieve an altered state of consciousness while socializing - because it's "fun". Its really a bizarre thing.

But then, it seems to satisfy a real human need. Humans have been taking in mind altering substances all the way back!

Personally, I'm not a drinker. I'm not particularly inhibited without alcohol, so I don't really need it to loosen up. And I like to be in control. If I'm going to act like an idiot (which I do sometimes) I want to know I'm doing it, and to remember it in the morning!


I live in Belgium, and drinking alcohol is socially acceptable here. We don't drink to get drunk most of the time (sometimes it happens though), we drink it just because we like the beer, the wine, for the flavour, not only for the alcohol in it. And come on, what's better than a glass of red wine during your meal?
smokey4life
Everyone keeps saying that with alcohol you should never drunk to get drunk... isn't that THE POINT of alcohol??? I'm not saying moderation is not a good thing by all means it is! Especially with the vastly growing numbers of compete morons in this world today, you should always know your limit and take it easy to prevent yourself from becoming stupefied (for lack of a better word) but at the same time why just have to drink to "enjoy the taste" hell if i wanted to enjoy my beverage i would have something with either less alcohol content or alcohol free for that matter when i drink i want to get DRUNK! Not exactly plastered just to be out of my mind but i definitely like the relaxed state of euphoria it brings.
evilryu530
i just had a drink at a bar earlier, there is nothing wrong with a little alcohol,.
Psycho_X52
Sometimes a little quantity of alcohol is recommend. But just a little!
My advice:
try to be a "NO" or "socially drinker" not a "often" or "dependent"
shovi
everything in moderation is the best way to go

no need to drink all the time or never drink at all

stay in the middle, and you can learn to not abuse it
gtherockgod
Meh, im no alcoholic, but i enjoy drinking at parties. Its just important to know your limits. If I can feel that Im drunk, I dont really see a point on continuing til I get sick or pass out.
Wolf1918
My feelings an alcohol are this ... If you want to drink, then go ahead. I used to, and if it were not for the medications I take, I probably would do so now ... in moderation.

However, my father was killed in a car accident when I was seven years old. His car was hit and knocked off a bridge as he was driving home from work by two drunken kids who were drag racing.

I have an absolute ZERO TOLERANCE for anyone who drinks and then dares to get behind the wheel of a car.

BTW, the kids who killed my dad, almost 45 years ago, both had rich fathers so neither of them spent even a day in jail for what they did.

Chad
Indyan
I am fine with it as long as you are the one in control. But I really hate it when people drink more than they can tolerate and end up making a fool of themselves in public.
HamsterMan
I drink occasionally with my friends, but when I do I don't really see the point. Before we always had fun just playing multiplayer games or roleplaying, but now a specific few are all about beer. Drunk is so overrated. Razz

I hate alcoholics more than anything. If you wanna act like an ass, fine. But don't make life miserable for the ones around you. My mom divorced my dad cause of his excessive drinking, and almost all of my sibblings drink more than enough themselfes.
dual75
I think that alcohool it's just a drug, of course more dangerous than marijuana but still legal.
What I really condemn is our government hipocritical behaviour
kreative
i like it... Very Happy Very Happy keep smiling
debywise
Many teens drink mainly to change their mood or change their mental state. Drinking alcohol can temporarily suppress the effects of both anxiety and depression. It can also help to temporarily relieve the symptoms of more serious mental health problems.

There are few reasons here why teens drink.
deanhills
I rarely drink on my own. Only socially. And when it's social I enjoy whiskey. I'm good at holding my alcohol but not every one is. Which is where problems usually arise. Particularly when the person is too far gone to realize what they are doing, like drinking and driving or hurting others. If someone knows their drinking is having that effect, they probably need to go the extra mile to sort it out. Moreover, and this is probably the more difficult part. Friends/family have the arduous responsibility of letting them know or try to restrain them when they want to drive when they're under the influence or about to attack someone. Quote tough to live with a person who is abusing alcohol and themselves and those around them at the same time.
TheGremlyn
Growing up I never understood alcohol so I never thought much of it from watching my dad drink it every day from the moment he got home to the moment he went to bed. Then stuff would get worse as I grew up and there was more tension in the house... My family literally fell apart... My brother ended up developed a kind of disorder, something that may have been there all along, but was twisted with the environment he lived in... he was always rebellious. But then he just... took off and we didn't know where he went, we didn't know if he was okay. He wouldn't talk to us and he would say terrible things to my sister, my sister only wanted him to be okay and she always looked out for us when we were younger...

My dad would never admit he had a problem... He even said some nasty things to me... and he has yet to apologize... so I went some years before my counselor told me that he would never say he was sorry and that I should hold out for that. As for trying to rebuild that relationship with him... I know he's my father, but we've gone so many years without talking... saying Hi is hard enough. And I supposed I'm afraid that if I rebuild that bridge he will just hurt me again.

That's what alcohol did. Poisoned the family and I can't ignore it. But I have to accept it and try and move on and accept that my family is screwed up. I also had to go from being really afraid of drinking to relaxing and realizing that I'm in control and that I can say No to more. I know my limit and I've never been drunk. I never want to be. I never feel the need to drink a lot. It makes my head feel kind of funny.

I'm probably not the only one who has grown up like this. I hate what has happened and sometimes, when I'm feeling pretty down and I think about my family being torn up and messed up the way it is... It does make me sad... I still miss my brother but we're getting there. It helps when I have a little Nephew I can see and I can see how my brother really cares for his son. He wants the best for him and in the end I don't think it was that bad that he took off. He's going to be a great dad. There is hope and I see that when I see that big smile on my nephew's face and those bright eyes...
spinout
Alcohol must be purer abroad.... Here we always tend to puke after a while Laughing

It is so fun with alcohol until you are 20, and you legally can buy it... I was wasted from 16 to 20 every weekend. After I became 20 I stopped drinking, it was no fun anymore. And my friends was gone...
deanhills
I sometimes wonder whether people who have a tendency for being addicted to loads of sugar, may have the ability to become addicted to alcohol as well. As not all people who consume huge quantities of alcohol are necessarily addicted to alcohol. It's a chemical addiction where the person who is addicted and on the wagon can go almost literally crazy if he/she smelt alcohol.
busman
I drink and every once in awhile i like to get drunk. Not spinning puking drunk, but definitly slightly off kilter; to all those who have had problems in the past with alchohol i am sorry but your problems should no affect whether i like to drink or not, its my body and i will do what i will with it. I am NOT an alchoholic, i do not drink often but when i do im drinking to get buzzed. There is absolutely no point otherwise, alchohol does not taste great and doesn't provide a ton of health benefits so in all honesty buzzing is the ONLY reason i drink and i ONLY drink rarely because it is a lot of fun and i dont want to end up an alchoholic.
loremar
deanhills wrote:
I sometimes wonder whether people who have a tendency for being addicted to loads of sugar, may have the ability to become addicted to alcohol as well. As not all people who consume huge quantities of alcohol are necessarily addicted to alcohol. It's a chemical addiction where the person who is addicted and on the wagon can go almost literally crazy if he/she smelt alcohol.

I heard that thinner individuals are more prone to addiction because alcohol is easier to flow in the bloodstream with a thin body. But there are also other factors I think like Personality Disorders. If a person has an avoidant personality disorder then his prone to alcohol addiction. Or if a person simply has a depressive disorder then he's likely to get addicted.

Me? I don't drink. I don't have any wants for it. I never feel like buying a drink. I don't have a social life either so i don't drink just to get along with peers. Would drinking improve my social life? Maybe but what's the point if I don't get along with them when I'm sober?
deanhills
loremar wrote:
Me? I don't drink. I don't have any wants for it. I never feel like buying a drink. I don't have a social life either so i don't drink just to get along with peers. Would drinking improve my social life? Maybe but what's the point if I don't get along with them when I'm sober?
Good point! I've never really had drinks in order to improve my social life. Just found it nice and relaxing if one were with buddies, sort of dimmed the inhibitions a little, and people were more relaxed with one another.
HVLGruppen
Slammer wrote:
Im 17, next year i can legally start drinking (UK). But i doubt it will lol, ive never drank so far, and neither has my girlfriend, we've both tried it at family things nstuff, and didnt like it. We both agree there isnt really much point in it, waste your money to get wasted and then forget it all by the next day. I dont even mean like going out to get drunk. I dont really see the point of it...ever loll.Some people say it relax's them, i dont need it to relax me, i can relax in other ways. All in all, i dont see the point in drinking. Dont flame me for saying it, its my opinion and i want to know all of yours! Everyones told me, oh just wait till your older then you'll wanna drink. But i really dont see myself doing it. (Btw, im not a wee stuck up person thats all like tea total. I just dont thnk its really needed).Share your opinion!


You should drink more. That is my advice. Your liver is evil, and you should to fight it with alcohol. The good fight is fought with beer, against your liver. -spa
briankid
i see it as something evil , sinful and destructive....
menino
Alcohol is bad.
I drink sometimes, and swayed away from becoming an addict, but I think I can easily become addicted to it, and it doesn't make things any better.
I think occassional drinking is ok, as long as you keep to a limit, so that you do not go off-board.
Most people can't deem to control their drinking, as with a few friends of mine, who stop for a while, and then start with even more firce force.
Hopefully one of my friends promised to stop soon.
gannypahuja
If we use alcohol in a limit then it work as a medician.
Not make it habbit and not cross the limit when you use the alcohols.
If we use the alcohols in a access then it is dangerous for our health and body.
So donot cross the limit.
menino
gannypahuja wrote:
If we use alcohol in a limit then it work as a medician.
Not make it habbit and not cross the limit when you use the alcohols.
If we use the alcohols in a access then it is dangerous for our health and body.
So donot cross the limit.


Every person I've seen who even drink alcohol socially, have become drunk and acted weird at some point of time.
Most of the time it is harmless antics, but sometimes, it goes into fist fights and brawls.
Still too much of alcohol is harmful to the body by itself, and in a lot of cases, leads to addiction.

I think drinking socially is acceptable, as long as you have the awareness to not overdo it, but in college, everyone else wants to see you drink more than normal, get drunk, and see others (and themselves) make a fool of themselves in order to be cool, or be remembered.
Peterssidan
I see alcohol as a drug. As all drugs I see it as dangerous, stupid and I wouldn't mind if they made it illegal.
darthrevan
I don't particularly care much about alcohol. Especially when a person drinks all the time then it is bad. I drink occasionally, but not to get drunk.
watersoul
darthrevan wrote:
I drink occasionally, but not to get drunk.


How do you define drunk? Out of control or mildly under the influence of alcohol?

If anyone genuinely does not drink to get drunk (at all) then I would assume they would buy non-alcoholic beer/wine/etc.

I am happy to state that I buy drinks which contain alcohol for the effect the alcohol has on me.
I struggle to understand the BS lines I often hear about the particular taste of X or Y fine wine or malt whiskey etc, if the alcohol was removed from the product then sales would plummet to the levels of grape juice and other soft drinks.

I've almost got more respect for the alcoholic who admits they buy cheap rough tasting drinks purely for the ethanol content, compared to the middle class hypocrites who justify or mask their 2-3 bottles of wine each night under the banner of 'quality' - Everyone who chooses to consume an alcohol product is choosing to do it for the effects of the alcohol content - and I firmly believe that any argument about taste bouquet etc is just a cheap smokescreen for people too scared/proud/uptight to admit they like to use a legal drug...Ethanol.
deanhills
watersoul wrote:
darthrevan wrote:
I drink occasionally, but not to get drunk.


How do you define drunk? Out of control or mildly under the influence of alcohol?

If anyone genuinely does not drink to get drunk (at all) then I would assume they would buy non-alcoholic beer/wine/etc.
Probably not very scientific to assume anything. I don't drink to get drunk and I've never had non-alcoholic anything in my life. Sort of seems a little silly to me.

I'd say alcohol in a small quantity would relax a person. In a large quantity would make the person drunk. Most people know what their limits are, however those limits would be different from person to person.

I like to have a drink with proper alcohol in it, otherwise what's the point. My preferred drink is whiskey soda and ice, but only when I'm socializing. It's nice for relaxation. I definitely don't drink to get drunk. I'd think if that were the objective, it would be self-destructive and harmful to health. Some people turn into idiots as well when they've had too much to drink.
Afaceinthematrix
watersoul wrote:
I am happy to state that I buy drinks which contain alcohol for the effect the alcohol has on me.
I struggle to understand the BS lines I often hear about the particular taste of X or Y fine wine or malt whiskey etc, if the alcohol was removed from the product then sales would plummet to the levels of grape juice and other soft drinks.


I often buy beer strictly for the taste. A good beer is my favorite beverage. There's nothing that I would rather have than a good IPA with a nice array of hops or sometimes a good stout, hefeweissen, or ale.

I love beer and I drink a lot of expensive beer that I could not afford to drink too much of. However, I admit that I do have other alcohol that I buy when I want to get drunk. I have no problem admitting that occasionally I just want to get hammered and when I do that there are certain cheap alternatives that I have. However, sometimes I just want to sip on a nice tasting beer (or sometimes a mead or wine).
watersoul
deanhills wrote:
Probably not very scientific to assume anything. I don't drink to get drunk and I've never had non-alcoholic anything in my life. Sort of seems a little silly to me.

I'd say alcohol in a small quantity would relax a person. In a large quantity would make the person drunk. Most people know what their limits are, however those limits would be different from person to person.

I like to have a drink with proper alcohol in it, otherwise what's the point. My preferred drink is whiskey soda and ice, but only when I'm socializing. It's nice for relaxation.

You buy alcoholic drinks for the effect and taste of the alcohol. It may make one sound less like a drug user to say they drink it to "relax" but like it or not you choose to purchase a drug for the chemical effect it has on your body.

deanhills wrote:
I definitely don't drink to get drunk. I'd think if that were the objective, it would be self-destructive and harmful to health. Some people turn into idiots as well when they've had too much to drink.

I agree about the hopelessly drunk people who cause problems, but what do you define as drunk?
I can easily drive or carry out complex physical/mental tasks whilst being over the legal blood alcohol limit for UK drivers - roughly a litre of 4% beer for an average sized man - you may use the term relaxed, I'll replace it with under the influence of an intoxicant.
Again, a product solely purchased for the chemical effect.
At what point during the use of the substance do we say 'drunk' and what do we call this enjoyment period of the chemical effect prior to this 'drunk'.

I'll try an example with a different drug than ethanol.
An effect is felt from smoking a few puffs of a joint and the smoker might say 'I feel a little bit stoned'. Smoke a load quickly in a pipe and the same person might say 'I'm really stoned' - The term 'stoned' is attributed to the state of being under the influence of THC to any noticable degree.
Again, what do we call the use of ethanol at lower levels for a chemical effect? I say 'a tiny bit drunk'

Afaceinthematrix wrote:
I often buy beer strictly for the taste.

The beer would not taste the same without the alcohol though, and supporting my argument there are many brands of non-alcohlic beers these days with sales remaining only a fraction of regular beer. You buy the beer due to the alcohol content, you choose the brand due to the taste.

Afaceinthematrix wrote:
A good beer is my favorite beverage. There's nothing that I would rather have than a good IPA with a nice array of hops or sometimes a good stout, hefeweissen, or ale.

I love beer and I drink a lot of expensive beer that I could not afford to drink too much of.

Ah, totally with you there fella, my favourite ale for a while now is 'Proper Job' from St Austell Brewery not many miles from where I live. It's gorgeous after a hard day at work and if it's travelled to your part of the world I'd definitely suggest you have a taste.
Again though, I buy this brand for the taste and it would probably be crap without the alcohol.

Afaceinthematrix wrote:
However, I admit that I do have other alcohol that I buy when I want to get drunk. I have no problem admitting that occasionally I just want to get hammered and when I do that there are certain cheap alternatives that I have. However, sometimes I just want to sip on a nice tasting beer (or sometimes a mead or wine).

Again, with you, and love that you admit (as I do) that occasionally getting hammered (while causing no harm to others or yourself) is nothing to have a problem about.

I don't mean to be like a dog with a bone in this thread, but I just get frustrated while there is the separation thing in our society between ethanol use and other drugs. We buy products containing alcohol for the effect of the drug, no matter how mild it may be, our central nervous system is influenced by it and we notice it.

To use my 'other drug' example again, there are different variations of THC products available from Skunk bush to Moroccan resin. Smokers choices are based on quality, price, availability etc...but they all buy it solely for the THC.

Why do we consider recreational ethanol use as something different to any other recreational drug use? Is it denial?
Ankhanu
watersoul wrote:
darthrevan wrote:
I drink occasionally, but not to get drunk.


How do you define drunk? Out of control or mildly under the influence of alcohol?

If anyone genuinely does not drink to get drunk (at all) then I would assume they would buy non-alcoholic beer/wine/etc.

Not necessarily.

I'm someone who drinks, and not to get drunk... I've never been drunk. I've been slightly light headed twice or three times, but that's the closest to drunk I've been. I rarely have more than 1 or 2 drinks in a day when I drink alcohol.

That said I won't touch de-alcoholized beverages, they taste terrible. I drink various beers, whiskeys, wines and liquers, and I drink every one because of the taste. Any drink I've tried where the alcohol has been removed has tasted like the shitty alcoholic beers etc. that I also won't drink.

watersoul wrote:
I struggle to understand the BS lines I often hear about the particular taste of X or Y fine wine or malt whiskey etc, if the alcohol was removed from the product then sales would plummet to the levels of grape juice and other soft drinks.

You're largely correct, I think, regarding sales drop without the alcohol.
Of course, the alcohol is a contributing factor to the flavour/experience of a particular drink, but, there's more to it. In the cases of a good single malt, fine wine, etc. there are a lot of other factors that go into determining the overall flavour/character that are simply absent in lesser or de-alcoholed versions (which generally don't exist).

watersoul wrote:
I've almost got more respect for the alcoholic who admits they buy cheap rough tasting drinks purely for the ethanol content, compared to the middle class hypocrites who justify or mask their 2-3 bottles of wine each night under the banner of 'quality' - Everyone who chooses to consume an alcohol product is choosing to do it for the effects of the alcohol content - and I firmly believe that any argument about taste bouquet etc is just a cheap smokescreen for people too scared/proud/uptight to admit they like to use a legal drug...Ethanol.

I also share that sort of respect for honesty... but your analysis is flawed, as not everyone IS consuming for the effects of alcohol. Yes, the majority of people ARE drinking alcohol for its effects... some of us genuinely aren't and genuinely AVOID drinking enough such that there is any effect whatsoever. Hell the idea of being drunk or even a little tipsy makes me rather uncomfortable. But, with enough moderation, I can enjoy a good dark stout, or 15 year old scotch without any real risk of drug effects.
watersoul
Ankhanu wrote:
I'm someone who drinks, and not to get drunk... I've never been drunk. I've been slightly light headed twice or three times, but that's the closest to drunk I've been. I rarely have more than 1 or 2 drinks in a day when I drink alcohol.

Ankhanu, I've enjoyed reading your posts over the last 5 years, and for the record I consider you one of the most reasoned and non emotive posters here.
Two drinks can get you over the driving limit though, failing a police urine/blood test and losing your licence even though 'you felt no effect and knew you could drive safely'. Why is there this similar limit in most developed societies?
Because 2 drinks affect us even if we do not notice it ourselves perhaps?

Ankhanu wrote:
Of course, the alcohol is a contributing factor to the flavour/experience of a particular drink, but, there's more to it. In the cases of a good single malt, fine wine, etc. there are a lot of other factors that go into determining the overall flavour/character that are simply absent in lesser or de-alcoholed versions (which generally don't exist).

What are these factors you speak of?
I totally respect your biological science knowledge but I struggle to see any extra attraction of drinking alcoholic drinks apart from the effects to the central nervous system that ethanol has. Do you honestly not think there is a chance that the human brain masks the milder effects under the banner of 'ooh that tastes nice'

Ankhanu wrote:
I also share that sort of respect for honesty... but your analysis is flawed, as not everyone IS consuming for the effects of alcohol. Yes, the majority of people ARE drinking alcohol for its effects... some of us genuinely aren't and genuinely AVOID drinking enough such that there is any effect whatsoever. Hell the idea of being drunk or even a little tipsy makes me rather uncomfortable. But, with enough moderation, I can enjoy a good dark stout, or 15 year old scotch without any real risk of drug effects.

I should not have said 'everyone' of course. There are exceptions in any social study group regarding drug use. I have to admit I remain a struggling convert to the 'I drink it solely for the taste' argument though, if only because my favourite tasting drink is a non-alcoholic strawberry milkshake Razz
RosenCruz
One of the nicest things ever, if you know where to stop. And do not be addicted Wink
Ankhanu
watersoul wrote:
Ankhanu, I've enjoyed reading your posts over the last 5 years, and for the record I consider you one of the most reasoned and non emotive posters here.

Thank ya, sir Wink

watersoul wrote:
Two drinks can get you over the driving limit though, failing a police urine/blood test and losing your licence even though 'you felt no effect and knew you could drive safely'. Why is there this similar limit in most developed societies?
Because 2 drinks affect us even if we do not notice it ourselves perhaps?

You're right, it can, it depends on consumption rate, and factors like solids in your stomach/intestines, etc.
I do tend to space my drinks by at least an hour; it taking the liver approximately an hour to metabolize a(n average) drink's worth of alcohol. While there may be some effect, it should be minimal.

watersoul wrote:
Ankhanu wrote:
Of course, the alcohol is a contributing factor to the flavour/experience of a particular drink, but, there's more to it. In the cases of a good single malt, fine wine, etc. there are a lot of other factors that go into determining the overall flavour/character that are simply absent in lesser or de-alcoholed versions (which generally don't exist).

What are these factors you speak of?
I totally respect your biological science knowledge but I struggle to see any extra attraction of drinking alcoholic drinks apart from the effects to the central nervous system that ethanol has. Do you honestly not think there is a chance that the human brain masks the milder effects under the banner of 'ooh that tastes nice'

Quality of ingredients, attention to detail in production, etc.; it all factors into the balance of molecules that impart the flavour of the final product. Take the same final product, split it in half, and boil off the alcohol from one and leave the other as is, and they'll taste different, and not just from the loss of ethanol; other volatile compounds will be lost, or chemically altered, as well.
The alcohol can add a tactile sensation to the drink too... it can burn with a pretty nasty beverage, or, with something better, can add a gentle warmth as it slides down... it's part of the experience, though it has no real effect.

Ankhanu wrote:
I should not have said 'everyone' of course. There are exceptions in any social study group regarding drug use. I have to admit I remain a struggling convert to the 'I drink it solely for the taste' argument though, if only because my favourite tasting drink is a non-alcoholic strawberry milkshake Razz

When you drink like I do, though, there's virtually no difference between the amount of alcohol in a beer and that in a the milkshake.

It's a little like being far away from a large gravitational body... it does influence you, but not meaningfully. Or, continuing with the gravity thing, it can be like a black hole... exactly the same as any other mass, until you reach the event horizon, then you're screwed Razz Your body/mind can deal with some alcohol without ill effect, but as it builds up (or if its delivered too quickly), that's when things go askew.
sudipbanerjee
I think drink alcohol with limit in occasional time is OK but in regular course it will make some problems.
deanhills
watersoul wrote:
deanhills wrote:
Probably not very scientific to assume anything. I don't drink to get drunk and I've never had non-alcoholic anything in my life. Sort of seems a little silly to me.

I'd say alcohol in a small quantity would relax a person. In a large quantity would make the person drunk. Most people know what their limits are, however those limits would be different from person to person.

I like to have a drink with proper alcohol in it, otherwise what's the point. My preferred drink is whiskey soda and ice, but only when I'm socializing. It's nice for relaxation.

You buy alcoholic drinks for the effect and taste of the alcohol. It may make one sound less like a drug user to say they drink it to "relax" but like it or not you choose to purchase a drug for the chemical effect it has on your body.
Of course I do and I doubt I said anything to the contrary, that is sort of common sense isn't it? BUT there is a great difference in going for drunk and a chemical effect. Sort of a number of degrees difference.
rebbicajackson
According to my opinion some people drink it so that they get some relief and sleep without getting disturb and some people drink just to show off others that they have grown up and few people drink coz they got no other thing to do


and I drink coz i like to drink ! Wink
mshafiq
of course alcohol is not good thing for health.for pregnant women this is not good as it could harm their baby during pregnancy or in some effects appear after birth.
goaaliensstation
mshafiq wrote:
of course alcohol is not good thing for health.for pregnant women this is not good as it could harm their baby during pregnancy or in some effects appear after birth.

Who said so?
Life is also not good for health. People die from it, I've heard.
Drink good stuff and do it responsibly, that's all
zaxacongrejo
Alcohol is comparable to heroin or cocaine the differences are at the substances because when we talk about consequences are almost the same violence, destroyed families, dead,etc
deanhills
zaxacongrejo wrote:
Alcohol is comparable to heroin or cocaine the differences are at the substances because when we talk about consequences are almost the same violence, destroyed families, dead,etc
I think it pretty much depends on the person who consumes the alcohol. Not every one deals with alcohol in the same way. It's not alcohol that is at fault but the use and the user of it. If one knows one has an addiction problem, one probably needs to do something about it, and yes, it probably is comparable to other addictions like heroin or cocaine. If one is OK with consuming alcohol without any negative effect, then it is obviously not a problem. Think doctors sometimes recommend a glass of wine to patients as they think it may relax them. Depending on the patient of course.
zaxacongrejo
Quote:
If one knows one has an addiction problem, one probably needs to do something


Addition is the exact opposite, that’s why it’s called addition they will never recognize the addition problem, no way.

Quote:

Think doctors sometimes recommend a glass of wine to patients as they think it may relax them. Depending on the patient of course.


A good medic will never recommend you that because he know alternative ways to reach the same goal with much better substances, let’s say less painful to your body
playfungames
I hope my parents never find out about this.

I am a heavy drink when I drink. But I do not drink regularly. I may drink after months but when I do, I make sure that I get the full alcohol effect in my body. I am one of those people who cannot drink under the limit. I also think that drinking without getting high is useless. I might be wrong but that is what I think. So I drink to the fullest when I drink otherwise I stay dry for months and months.

Also, I think that it needs to be noted that it is ok to drink as long as you are having fun, under control, not fighting with anyone else and most importantly doing your work/school or whatever that gets your life going.
jajarvin
I drink only beer and I have no problem.
deanhills
Haven't had alcohol for a very long while. Think there is something lacking in my diet. Wink

Seriously, bought some special dry herb ingredients (Swedish Bitters) while I was in Canada in September. One is supposed to create a tincture out of them. Last night I checked what the ingredients were and I need three cups of Vodka for this tincture. Looks as though alcohol is an important ingredient in my health brew. Very Happy
Utopia GFR
Well, I only drink alcohol on specific occasions, especially, when I don't have to start studying something.

But when I'm off to party with friends, I usually go to great lengths so yeah I sometimes exceed the bounds of moderation, which happens maybe once or twice a year.

Anyway, if I had to state one opinion, then I would say that moderation is the key to healthy living and good self-control.
mshafiq
alcohol is not good for the health.please take care of your health and take a good decision according to your health.
deanhills
mshafiq wrote:
alcohol is not good for the health.please take care of your health and take a good decision according to your health.
Right. And hamburgers are also not good for our health? I think everything is good in moderation, it's when alcohol or hamburgers are used to excess that it becomes problematic.
spinout
My view on alcohol is simple: Drick as much as you can.
There will come a day where you not are able to OR be rich enuff OR don't have any friends!

Hm, starting age hm 15 . I started at 16 and drank as much as I could until 20.

Today I drink twice a year and get drop dead drunk and puke everywhere... Laughing But that is the life of a mid aged man!

Simple, next question!
zaxacongrejo
spinout wrote:
My view on alcohol is simple: Drick as much as you can.
There will come a day where you not are able to OR be rich enuff OR don't have any friends!

Hm, starting age hm 15 . I started at 16 and drank as much as I could until 20.

Today I drink twice a year and get drop dead drunk and puke everywhere... Laughing But that is the life of a mid aged man!

Simple, next question!


you see you have a lot of brain damage you just dont know yet
to hages under 20 alcohol is a toxic
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