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How many times have you seen crash?





Xeniczone
I want to see this it just kinda interesting...

how many times have you seen the following operateing systems crash.
I want to go with the 3 top or more popular operating systems.

Windows, Linux, and Macintosh (classic or X)

I was going to make this a poll but there is no way possible to do this so I will edit this keeping the procents here.

I would like you to post your topics like this:
Here is my answer and example:
Windows: ~40
Linux: 0
Macintosh: 1

Percents: of users
Windows: 100%
Linux: 0%
Macintosh: 0%

I would like you only to post the example of windows linux and mac. Don't post the percentage part that is just were I will keep trake. Please don't get off topic or post other then releated to this.

By Crash I mean like windows blue screen of death. Or Macs Bomb restart thing. Linux I really dont know what it does.
{name here}
Windows(NT based): 0
BSD: 0
Mac: 0

How much they freeze is up to you. You're probably using a program that needs more mem on a sub-optimal computer. If you use windows, UNIX, and Mac OS right, you're not going to need to restart at all.

I've never had a problem with my BSD system, but I think *NIX systems either go into a kernel panic mode, input debug info into a file, then restart, or they go into a debug mode where you have to fix the problem yourself.
Helios
I had seen my windows crash about 5 times for few years now(it's pretty well configured).

My Debian has never crashed.. once I ran it for 2 months w/o restarting.

I also tried FreeBSD once, but didn't like it.
SunburnedCactus
My XP Home laptop has crashed once since I got it last year, and that was because I moved it and the soundcard came unplugged from the firewire port, causing the old BSOD to appear.
superwrestler06
windows 98: 7
Windows xp: 3
Linux: currently downloding suse and trying to install fc_4.
Mac os X: 0
hrtorrent
DOS: many times
UNIX: never
Windows 98: many times
Windows XP: many times
Windows 2000: few times
Windows 2000 server: never
Windows 2003 server: never
Linux: several times
Solaris: never
Mac OS: few times
Xeniczone
Thank you for you posts.

I would perfer lists then a story rather then just a story.

I counted 16 altogether (not counting mine) and 16/16 were windows so.

Percents of users:
Windows: 100%
Linux: 0%
Macintosh: 0%

I didn't include posts like "too many" "a few times" seen they aren't numbers.

you can put about like ~20 then It would be about 20 and I would just count the 20.

once again thx this is kinda research to me Razz

-Xeniczone
Gryffins
Lets see,
I have seen Windows 95 crash about.. 3 times
Windows 98 5 times
Windows 98 SE 4 times
Windows Xp Home 5 times.
Windows Xp Pro. 2 times.
Mac none
Linux, and other os's none.
photon
win 3.1 : never
win 95 : abt 10 times
win 98 : min 40 times
win me : infinite times
win 2000 : less than 5
win xp : less than 10
linux : 1

mac: havent seen one Sad
Xeniczone
One question what does linux do when it crashes seens you have seen it.

Mac os gives you a bomb and then all you can do is push reset. Windows will either restart without consent or give you a blue screen of death.

OS_______Percent__Fraction
Windows:....>99%.....100/101
Linux:...........<1%........1/101
Mac:...............0%.........0/101
ocalhoun
Windows: 27 (I repair people's computers)
Linux: 2
Mac OS: 5


Xeniczone wrote:
One question what does linux do when it crashes seens you have seen it.

My two experiences with that:
1: Faulty program caused complete lockup: just froze.
2: Manual editing of the XF86Config in fedora core 1: Graphics system died.
Xeniczone
OS_______Percent__Fraction
Windows:.......94%.....127/135
Linux:..............2%........3/135
Mac:................4%........5/135

Looks like we should stick to linux or mac Razz

personally I have never seen a linux crash but I only tried it out for a month. I still have it on that computer I just don't use that computer.

SuSe Linux 10.0
oh0092
windows xp: ~5
windows 98: ~50
linux: ~2
jongoldsz
Windows: At least once a day
Mac: 2
Linux: never
Xeniczone
Quote:
Windows: At least once a day


Lol glad im not the only one.
Rocky3478
Windows - Every single time I get on one of those machines, it seems to crash. At least 600 times over the course of 3 years...... And very few of those are user error....

Linux - Never used it.

OS X - 2 times in five months. Both of those were my fault, not the OS's. I overloaded the computer.
Xeniczone
Quote:
At least 600 times over the course of 3 years...... And very few of those are user error....


Are you excepting 600 to be your number.

Becuase it being windows and a course of 2 years I beleave it.
my windows computer crashed just today when i was playing halo it paused then gave me the bsod 1 min later. if you said 600 for mac or linux I would think you were a lier but windows I don't see anything.




Let's put it this way If you have seen an os crash more then 50 times the max is 50. If you have seen it crash 7million times then you get 50.
{name here}
Xeniczone wrote:
One question what does linux do when it crashes seens you have seen it.

When a Unix OS(but not OS X) crashes, it either freezes or goes into Kernel Panic and goes into either a debug mode or resets and reads the problem on startup with a memory dump where it tries to fix the problem.
nevillethenerd
I am currently replacing my windows Domain Controllers with hosted VMs [using the recently released free version of VMware's GSX Server product called just VMware Server] sitting on Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4. That should tell you all you need to know about Microsoft's products propensity to crash all the time. Doing things this way I know that when [not if] one of the windows boxes locks, slooooooowwwws down for no reason or just plain falls over I can hot swap to a VM snapshot and we should be up and running in minutes not hours. Best of all I won't have to go snooping around eventid.net and expertsexchange.com to find out why the box died because I won't give a sh*t. it died because it's windows. end of story. As for stats, i'd guess that in my current enviroment it over the past year, I've had:
windows 2000 Pro: hundreds, too many to name
freeBSD for desktops: no crashes
Red Hat EL workstation: no crashes
windows 2003: 10 [mainly unexplained system lockups and really slow GUI response
windows NT: 20+ [yes, we still have some of this rubbish on the LAN]
windows 2000 5 or so [surprisingly stable platform]
Red Hat EL 4: never, not even had to restart a box. our mail servers have been running for over 2 years. never hear a peep out of them. ask an Exchange admin if he can say he's had 2 WEEKS clear running with one of those!
Xeniczone
yeh I wish they made halo for linux so you wouldn't have to worry about dedicated servers crashing.

I g2g so I will post percents later.
desertwind
0.0000000

Oh La! I'm using GNU/Linux Smile
Xeniczone
OS_______Percent__Fraction
Windows:.......95%.....317/331
Linux:..............2%........5/331
Mac:................3%........9/331



These odds still make windows look bad this is really to point I was trying to prove.

Out of 331 crashes 95% of the time it was windows fault. Yet, windows is still the popular OS of chose. Hmm.... that doesn't make much seens.
nevillethenerd
it makes perfect sense. in business terms microsoft got in at the ground floor. ibm and novell blew their chances 20 years ago. you'll never ever shift that inertia. bill can put out any old crap he likes and it'll sell in the billions purely on the OEM licences alone. microsoft is a marketing company not a tech company. like scott mcneally said: name one thing, just ONE thing, that microsoft have invented? think about it. they bought or ripped off everything they've ever sold. DOS? bought, that was CPM. NT? bought, they hired mr. VMS and said, just write that code out again will you but make it buggy and give it a GUI. you buy their products if you're a tech illiterate. which most people are. no probs with that, most people aren't doctors, most people aren't car mechanics. i'll bet those guys winge on their forums about people buying shit cars and eating the wrong food. c'est la vie.
Animal
I really don't see any validity in this straw poll. The vast majority of Frihost users run Windows (the high proportion of voters shown here enforce this comment), so it would be highly unlikely that another environment is proved to be less stable than Windows.

Furthermore, there are a lot more programs available for Windows (some coded well, others not) that can cause problems, and there are also a lot more security threats to Windows in the form of Viruses, Spyware and Malware that affect system stability. Generally (but of course, not always) programs created for Mac and Linux are developed for a more specialist environment and are therefore less likely to be full of crash-inducing bugs and other incompatibilities with the Operating System itself.

I'm certainly not trying to argue that Windows is more stable than Mac OS or any Linux distro - Mac and Linux are marketed as being far more stable than Windows. I'm merely pointing out that the comparison you've made is not an entirely fair one. It also suggests that you're taking the line "my OS is better than yours", where I'm a firm believer in "each to their own".
Xeniczone
Quote:
it makes perfect sense. in business terms microsoft got in at the ground floor. ibm and novell blew their chances 20 years ago. you'll never ever shift that inertia. bill can put out any old crap he likes and it'll sell in the billions purely on the OEM licences alone. microsoft is a marketing company not a tech company. like scott mcneally said: name one thing, just ONE thing, that microsoft have invented? think about it. they bought or ripped off everything they've ever sold. DOS? bought, that was CPM. NT? bought, they hired mr. VMS and said, just write that code out again will you but make it buggy and give it a GUI. you buy their products if you're a tech illiterate. which most people are. no probs with that, most people aren't doctors, most people aren't car mechanics. i'll bet those guys winge on their forums about people buying **** cars and eating the wrong food. c'est la vie.


He is completely right every thing microsoft has done is stolen or bought they have never made a thing and until ppl see or bill gates dies with no one to take his place (aka his sons w/e there doing) ppl will continue to buy microsoft.


As of the fact that most ppl are windows you may have to look at that but you will also have to look at if more ppl bought mac or linux will it crash more. Probably not there is always a good thing about hardware limit i guess it is because bad hardware or unknown will not run when windows will except anything.
Animal
Xeniczone wrote:
Probably not there is always a good thing about hardware limit i guess it is because bad hardware or unknown will not run when windows will except anything.


While I agree with your point to an extent, in the majority of cases, hardware that causes problems is faulty. Apple are not capable of releasing 100% working hardware - faults can and do occur. Again, they're not so high profile because there are fewer Macs sold, and therefore a lower number of faulty components when compared to PCs.
Atomo64
Windows 95: x
Windows 98: ~35
Windows 98se: ~20
Windows 2000: ~12
Windows ME: 98%
Windows XP: ~5
Linux: 0 Wink
Palm OS 4.1: 12( usually when using old apps)
Palm OS 3.x: 1
ocalhoun
Xeniczone wrote:
OS_______Percent__Fraction
Windows:.......95%.....317/331
Linux:..............2%........5/331
Mac:................3%........9/331



These odds still make windows look bad this is really to point I was trying to prove.

Out of 331 crashes 95% of the time it was windows fault. Yet, windows is still the popular OS of chose. Hmm.... that doesn't make much seens.


I agree with the point of this little survey, but it is fundamentaly flawed.
Windows crashes 47.5 times more often than linux, but it is also used far more often than linux.

The only way to make this fair (without forcing everyone to use all OS's equally) is to report crashes vs runtime for each OS.
onur
Windows 98: many times
Windows XP: ALWAYS
Windows 2000: few times
Windows 2000 server: few times
Windows 2003 server: 1-2
Linux: 1
Solaris: 0
Mac OS: 0
ripdajacker
Linux : a few times due processor overheat
Windows 98 : 100 or more
WindowsXP : 10<times<20 due to bad usb hardware that caused bsod

Windows is actually very stable, I have run WindowsXP for 31 days without crash/reboot. I can't see how people manage to mess their os up so much. I recently did a ad-aware pro full system scan of my computer (Windows has been installed since mid 2005) and found 3 objects, and then I wondered how all my friends find several hundred objects even though they scan every 1-2 days..

What is it that makes windows crash if not the stupidity of the user?

Animal wrote:
Mind your language or you will get a warning or a ban
Xeniczone
Quote:
Windows is actually very stable, I have run WindowsXP for 31 days without crash/reboot. I can't see how people manage to mess their os up so much. I recently did a ad-aware pro full system scan of my computer (Windows has been installed since mid 2005) and found 3 objects, and then I wondered how all my friends find several hundred objects even though they scan every 1-2 days..


I couldn't get you a strait forward answer but I would have to say there are 2 reasons why.

first would be spyware adware viruses and trojans and worms. Even with norton or mcafee these are almost impossible to keep away on a windows based system. with other systems like linux or mac having no or few spyware viruses etc you dont have the issue of it messing up the os.

Second would have to be 3rd party drivers. Many use 3rd party drivers and software on there comptuer nothing wrong with it just the wrong type or wrong mix of 3rd party drivers or software and you comptuer will have issue working around it and just give up or give you the bsod.
kiranaghor
Windows XP: lots of times.
Mac os X: never so far
Ubuntu: never so far
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