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Images of Islam - "Death to America, Death to Denmark&a





Soulfire
The rioting and protesting continues over stupid cartoons published in a newspaper.
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ISLAMABAD, Pakistan - Thousands chanted slogans and burned Danish flags in Pakistan and Iraq to protest cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad on Tuesday, while the second Russian newspaper in a week shut down after publishing the images that have angered Muslims worldwide.

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Witness accounts, meanwhile, confirmed a report by Italy's envoy, who said the violence that killed 11 people in Benghazi, Libya, last week was the work of both Islamic radicals and anti-government forces.

In an interview with the Italian daily newspaper La Stampa published Tuesday, Ambassador Francesco Trupiano said domestic opposition to Col. Moammar Gadhafi had joined forces with religious extremists in a protest that began in front of the Italian consulate over caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad.

"Benghazi is still out of control," said Trupiano, who was speaking from Tripoli. "The situation can precipitate any minute.

Protests continued elsewhere a day after Iran backed calls from other Muslim and world leaders for an end to the violence over the series of cartoons that first appeared in a Danish newspaper in September and have been reprinted in other publications in Europe and elsewhere.

About 2,000 people in a small town near Pakistan's Afghan border yelled "Death to America!" and "Death to Denmark!" and burned effigies of President Bush and the Danish prime minister and flags of Denmark.

A demonstration in the southern Iraqi city of Karbala drew about 10,000 people who burned Danish flags and demanded that Iraq sever ties with Denmark.

It's a terrible thing. People wonder why Islam has a bad reputation. They say "Islam is fine! We are peaceful, we respect everyone." Clearly they don't.

And people are trying to get us to help the homeless earthquake victims in Pakistan, the very place they are chanting "Death to America."


Woman holds up a sign "Down with America" and chants Anti-American slogans.


Demonstrators rally and burn American flags as they chant "Death to America, Death to Bush"


The Danish flag burns in protest over the depictions of Muhammed.


Muslims walk over the flags of Israel and Denmark on their way to a protest over the cartoons.


Muslim demonstrators burn dummies of the prime minister of Denmark (apparently it's his fault for the cartoons... I do NOT understand these people).


Muslim protesters walk over the flags of Israel, Denmark, and the U.S.A.


Demonstrators hold up a sign that says "Islam Respects All Religions." What a joke!

News article and pictures from Yahoo! News. There are some 500 images of the protests at Yahoo News that you can look through, I couldn't fit them all here!
SamiTheBerber
I agree and disagree you in some parts.
Soulfire wrote:
It's a terrible thing. People wonder why Islam has a bad reputation. They say "Islam is fine! We are peaceful, we respect everyone." Clearly they don't.

http://h1.ripway.com/Soulfire21/respect.jpg
Demonstrators hold up a sign that says "Islam Respects All Religions." What a joke!

It true that image of Islam isn't so good in wester countries and acts in nowadays wont make it better. I disagree you, when you are denying the last sentence. Islam is fine and peaceful, Islam also respect everyone. People are bad not religion. It is same thing as in medieval age, when crusaders went to Jerusalem and killed non-christian people. They killed under their religion name. All terrorist are not muslim, there are also christians and judish. Radical groups make strikes and whole religion get a black stamp.

PS. I'm christian for now and my father is muslim so I know what I'm telling.
Soulfire
SamiTheBerber wrote:
I agree and disagree you in some parts.
Soulfire wrote:
It's a terrible thing. People wonder why Islam has a bad reputation. They say "Islam is fine! We are peaceful, we respect everyone." Clearly they don't.

http://h1.ripway.com/Soulfire21/respect.jpg
Demonstrators hold up a sign that says "Islam Respects All Religions." What a joke!

It true that image of Islam isn't so good in wester countries and acts in nowadays wont make it better. I disagree you, when you are denying the last sentence. Islam is fine and peaceful, Islam also respect everyone. People are bad not religion. It is same thing as in medieval age, when crusaders went to Jerusalem and killed non-christian people. They killed under their religion name. All terrorist are not muslim, there are also christians and judish. Radical groups make strikes and whole religion get a black stamp.

PS. I'm christian for now and my father is muslim so I know what I'm telling.

Then why are they trying to kill the infidels (non-believers of Islam)? Islam as a whole is not bad, but it accounts for a large amount of the instability and trouble in our world with violent overreactions such as these.
SamiTheBerber
Soulfire wrote:
Then why are they trying to kill the infidels (non-believers of Islam)? Islam as a whole is not bad, but it accounts for a large amount of the instability and trouble in our world with violent overreactions such as these.

Only radical groups kill infidels. Media has huge affect of showing whing bigger than they really are. Few people walking in the street with banners and in the news is muslims are demonstrating. It's give a image that there were all muslims involved in that act.
Soulfire
SamiTheBerber wrote:
Soulfire wrote:
Then why are they trying to kill the infidels (non-believers of Islam)? Islam as a whole is not bad, but it accounts for a large amount of the instability and trouble in our world with violent overreactions such as these.

Only radical groups kill infidels. Media has huge affect of showing whing bigger than they really are. Few people walking in the street with banners and in the news is muslims are demonstrating. It's give a image that there were all muslims involved in that act.

The "few people" you are referring to are obviously too much. Instability, turmoil, and death are still prevalent in the middle east.
Jeslyn
I wonder what their viewpoint is. It's easy to understand what's going on from "our" idea. But what's their rationing...?
Soulfire
Jeslyn wrote:
I wonder what their viewpoint is. It's easy to understand what's going on from "our" idea. But what's their rationing...?

I really wish I knew, I'm really curious to know.
Devil
muslim all over the world have one thing in common , no matter what happens , they will surely protest against america and isreal ,

it is like they are thought to do so , i think it is high time now USa takes action against these countries , who alllow people to burn flags of countries ,which are thier so called allies in war on terror ,(pakistan)


Bush is going to go there , lets see what happens
Soulfire
Devil wrote:
muslim all over the world have one thing in common , no matter what happens , they will surely protest against america and isreal ,

it is like they are thought to do so , i think it is high time now USa takes action against these countries , who alllow people to burn flags of countries ,which are thier so called allies in war on terror ,(pakistan)


Bush is going to go there , lets see what happens

We're trying to take action, we invaded Iraq... but what do we get? Nothing but a bunch of complains from an ungrateful world, and nothing but pointing fingers and name calling by the left.
nopaniers
Soulfire wrote:
We're trying to take action, we invaded Iraq... but what do we get? Nothing but a bunch of complains from an ungrateful world, and nothing but pointing fingers and name calling by the left.


Do you really think the US invaded Iraq because they are Islamic? I don't think the US would do such a terrible thing.
CompactHaven
Jeslyn wrote:
I wonder what their viewpoint is. It's easy to understand what's going on from "our" idea. But what's their rationing...?


Their viewpoint is clear.

The orignal version of the Koran (the non western one) tells them to kill Infidels.
They hate gay people.
They hate women who wear short shorts, bikinis, walk around flashing their bodies.
They hate the pornography and strip clubs in America.
They hate the Jews.

Because of all of that, they want you to submit to Islam, or they want you dead.
prongs_386
what you have to see is, there are religious figures maybe justifying killing even if the religion does not. It is the people who are doing things in the name of god without the real will of god.
Ommar
firstly people shouldnt see these actions as the recommended action in islam- NO! rather most actions that are thrown over the media are what people do when they are angry and have been victims of severe oppression.

Yes there is a revelation that came down when the muslims were at war with the Arabs or non believers that stated to kill them and fight them how they fight you. Remember though that we are not buddhists and if someone comes to kill you and they persecute you for believeing in One God and disbelieving in their pagan gods then of course permision should be given to fight back in a balanced way.
We seen in tibet 70 years of peaceful protesting did not work, they are still getting butchered and nothings happened. I am not saying what the muslims are doing is right Im trying to say that fighting evil and enjoining good is mandotory if you claim to uphold justice and strive for the pleasure of the creator.

Hitler has strong christian beliefs and he murdered 6 million jews and now people are trying to use the word anti-semitism on us!! One have we come close to this figure or the amount killed in WW1 and 2?? we dont come close to others.
I am what some would call an extremist but I have nothing against a jew! I love my fellow humans and would treat them kindly unless they oppose me. And by opposing me I dont mean not adhering to the islamic way of life, there is no compulsion in religion but opposing me would be to drive me out my home and kill my family.

Another point I wish to raise is that many people claim religions cause wars and fighting. Without religoin how can someone define what is good and bad and how can real morals exist? I know that the majority of human beings on earth avoid bad and do good because they believe in God. If most the world did not believe in God it would have a higher percentage of rapists and murderers and people without divine guidance would be lost and start killing themselves. As is evident in the west- the areas which are considered the best standard of living suicide is rising rapidly and the third biggest killer!! millions take their own life because they are lost without purpose. Islam gives you reason to live, makes sense of the world, universe and explains how all other religons developed and why they exist. Islam also gives an insight to the spiritual world, manners, hygiene patience, controlling ones desires and submitting to God.

In every religon there exists bad people you cant blame Islam. There are many reasons why it appears that many loose cannons are coming from the religon of Islam. There are nearly 2 billion muslims, Muslims are being persecuted, the whole world are uniting against muslim countries (i.e. US,UK, Canada, France, Germany, Russia,Poland,China,India, Austrailia, Israel,UN, etc). Muslims are becoming desperate. People are not following the the true guidance of Islam properly and people love Islam to an extent that if they believe they are doing the right thing (even though they might be wrong) They are prepared to do it by any means neccessary. We will die, love, kill, save, give, take, fight and be fought against its life.

There is a reason for everything people need to stop looking at the surface and being so shallow minded. hate breeds more hate it doesn't spawn from nothing there is always a negative cause.

Look at other evil governments who watch and record your every move, cage without charge, oppress the poor, lie and start wars, control the masses through fear, gain money through exploitation, spread corruption and are motivated by power and wealth.

Who irom the true people in Islam (The prophet and companions) showed Love for money or power? Did the Prophet have any possesions let alone a single penny when he died? did he have palaces and people pray to him? no, no and no. Our only tax is to the poor and our love is for all people. We only worship God. we are humans and there will always be hate within us but we hate what is wrong and we dont say we are perfect.

peace
sondosia
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Remember though that we are not buddhists and if someone comes to kill you and they persecute you for believeing in One God and disbelieving in their pagan gods then of course permision should be given to fight back in a balanced way.


And we have "persecuted" you how? By letting our women wear bikinis?
liljp617
sondosia wrote:
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Remember though that we are not buddhists and if someone comes to kill you and they persecute you for believeing in One God and disbelieving in their pagan gods then of course permision should be given to fight back in a balanced way.


And we have "persecuted" you how? By letting our women wear bikinis?


The western world has done its fair share, but it's not really a defense of the extremist organizations.


Anyway, this is pretty silly talking about something in a 2 year old thread about a topic that happened years ago. Whoever bumped this, there are plenty of recent threads around if you are determined to talk about Islam...there's not a whole lot of reason to bump 2 year old threads (especially more than one).
prithvi
Ommar wrote:
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Muslims are becoming desperate. People are not following the the true guidance of Islam properly and people love Islam to an extent that if they believe they are doing the right thing (even though they might be wrong) They are prepared to do it by any means neccessary. We will die, love, kill, save, give, take, fight and be fought against its life.


Do you mean to say that a Muslim who is a citizen of a non-Islamic country, is more loyal to his religion than to his country?

Ommar wrote:

Who irom the true people in Islam (The prophet and companions) showed Love for money or power? Did the Prophet have any possesions let alone a single penny when he died? did he have palaces and people pray to him? no, no and no. Our only tax is to the poor and our love is for all people. We only worship God. we are humans and there will always be hate within us but we hate what is wrong and we dont say we are perfect.

peace


Maybe what you say is true. But correct me if I am wrong.............I have heard that Prophet Mohammed had had eight wives.
Islamic law also allows having upto 4 wives, in order to follow his ways of life.
jwellsy
How young was his youngest child bride?

Islam will never produce peacfull neighbors that can share Jeruselam. As long as there is a jew in Jeruselam there will be fighting. And, it's OK to lie to infidels to protect that agenda.
busman
Sadly enough this is all very very wrong. Go watch Where in the world is Osama Bin Laden with Morgan Sperlock. He's a redhead irish man that walks around ALL these countries and no-one is rude to him EXCEPT the orthodox jews. Now to understand why many islamic countries governments dislike the USA and Western Europe all you have to do is study history, its all pretty simple guys. We invaded them during the crusades an slaughtered peasants, women, children and other religous people like it was going out of fashion. After the Mongol's came... Did we help the islamic world then? (whom btw had all the knowledge in the world at the time in the library of baghdad) No... We allowed the Mongols to throw rotting corpses full of the black death over their city walls and burn down the library of baghdad too, putting us into a little period you all might of heard of called "The Dark Ages" which in turn helped invent modern banking (the true modern criminals).
Fast Forward to colonialism, we raped and pillaged their lands YET AGAIN and took their land from them this time. For close to 200 years. Then shoved ethnic groups of people who had been rivals for 1000's of years together in the same country (it'd be like putting the French and British in one country and saying ENJOY!) based on there ability to coerce the newly independant countries with weak governments into giving the west the best oil prices. Now fast forward AGAIN...
The USA not only has 1000's of full time active duty millitary troops in their countries 24/7, we have also proactively followed a policy of installing BRUTAL dictators when it suits our needs Mubarek, Saddam Hussein to name a couple. Let alone that would piss off any country we then help attempt a coup to throw out the DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED LEADERS. Anyone remember the Shah of Iran? Ya, that guy, well screw him the USA doesn't like him GOODBYE! Even though he was a Moderate Muslim who was democratically elected!
And people still ask why people hate the American Gov. in other countries. Do a lil research and don't be ignorant like half these posts are. - From a Fmr. US Marine
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