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Can anyone prove God loves you?
Can you prove God loves you? First assume God exists.
| gonzo wrote: |
| Can you prove God loves you? First assume God exists. |
If God exist, he is most evil person. So, i do not need his love.
| Buddha wrote: |
| If the creator of the world entire
They call God, of every being be the Lord Why does he order such misfortune And not create concord? If the creator of the world entire They call God, of every being be the Lord Why prevail deceit, lies and ignorance And he such inequity and injustice create? If the creator of the world entire They call God, of every being be the Lord Then an evil master is he, Knowing what's right did let wrong prevail! |
God - Topic that is impossible to prove/disprove. And that is no lie. 
| gonzo wrote: |
| Can you prove God loves you? First assume God exists. |
God really exists and all around us we will find all the proves to that
I think God love us because he give us all we need
without God There is no life
He Gives Us the life
Can any one live without life?? i think noone can
so the little prove that God loves us is giving us the life
thanks
The poster above said it all. If god does exist, then he hates the human race with a passion.
In fact, according to christian mythology, "God" (capital "g") is in fact more like the traditional description of a demon that a supreme being. He manipulates, distrusts, makes arbitrary decisions about the fate of species, and has a nasty mean streak.
Also, the phrase, "assume god does exist" says a lot about christianity, because that is all the farther most people take it.
I say we're better off placing our faith in human ethics and rational positivism than any hope for a benevolent deity.
In fact, according to christian mythology, "God" (capital "g") is in fact more like the traditional description of a demon that a supreme being. He manipulates, distrusts, makes arbitrary decisions about the fate of species, and has a nasty mean streak.
Also, the phrase, "assume god does exist" says a lot about christianity, because that is all the farther most people take it.
I say we're better off placing our faith in human ethics and rational positivism than any hope for a benevolent deity.
No matter what people say to me my life is only complete because I had the chance to know the God spell (I don't know if that's the right term to use here). Before I believed that God was evil because all the things we see around the world, but then I learnt that everthing is happening for a higher reason. Who are we to judge what is really good or bad? I mean, God knows what He is doing, He doesn't sees things the way we see. Everthing bad (war, hungry) is happening for a higher reason and all we have to do is try to make this world better because I believe that's one of God's reasons: He wants us to love each other, no matter what, without wanting anything in change.
To prove to you that God loves me you all have to believe... My life, the happiness that I feel when I'm praying, my breath, everything is a proof to me. It's a faith matter.
I believe deeply in God and I trust him and I know He will make things better in the right time
For those who don't believe: God loves you too
kisses
To prove to you that God loves me you all have to believe... My life, the happiness that I feel when I'm praying, my breath, everything is a proof to me. It's a faith matter.
I believe deeply in God and I trust him and I know He will make things better in the right time
For those who don't believe: God loves you too
kisses
A God can not be scientifically proven, but by definition (e.g. information processes or first cause) he can.
So then we ask what is real proof.
So then we ask what is real proof.
God loves me, but it's in a sexual way.
| gonzo wrote: |
| Can you prove God loves you? First assume God exists. |
I can't prove that God does in fact love me, but I also can't prove that God doesn't love me either.
I believe in God, but at times I must admit he seems to be an absent landlord.
You cannot prove the existance of anything, the ultimate argument.
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Theodicy responses:
Without evil in the world one would not know of any good for one thing. There is nothing to compare it to.
Also the most famous: The Free Will Theodicy.
God gave us the ability to sin and make choices, because our decisions would overrall be better than if we didn't have free will.
| Jack_Hammer wrote: |
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You cannot prove the existance of anything, the ultimate argument. |
Descartes: "I think therefore I am."
God did not create pain and suffering, humans did. In the beginning, we were meant to eat from the garden of God forever, he wanted us to live in perfect happiness... but our ancestors (Eve) ate an apple that God had forbidden her to (God was testing their loyalty).
Since humans proved there that they could not always obey God no matter what, we now live in a fallen world.
Since humans proved there that they could not always obey God no matter what, we now live in a fallen world.
Hasn't anyone in here ever read John 3:16? Of course, if you don't believe in God or read the bible, I guess not.
if you don't believe then why come here?
go hard or go home!
the ardent atheist!
go hard or go home!
the ardent atheist!
| tefa_taftaf2010 wrote: | ||
I think God love us because he give us all we need without God There is no life He Gives Us the life Can any one live without life?? i think noone can so the little prove that God loves us is giving us the life thanks |
To challenge your thinking a bit...
Giving something to an entity proves not that one loves such entity...
I am certainly sure that the essence in someone's life which they call God, in specific cases has helped achieve happiness for an individual. Yet not everyone undergoes same experiences nor reacts equally to them.
Thus, indeed we could assert that an individual could proclaim God to love him/her due to specific experiences to which him/her makes God responsible of. Yet, not everyone believes in God, and even those who do might be tempted to think certain sources of happiness directed from God. These are just two over views.
In a different panorama, it is likely for those who seek God to also find happiness in the style of life inculcated by the teachings. Could we maybe say this happiness come from God? Or at least from following what your God commands?
In the other side we’ll also see that while to give happiness to someone could be symbol that you love that person, it is not always the case. For you can give happiness for your own benefit other than the other entity’s benefit. Yet I am tempted to say, this would never be the case with God, because he doesn’t have the need for self benefit…
Hope this is not all to abstract..
| Soulfire wrote: |
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God did not create pain and suffering, humans did. In the beginning, we were meant to eat from the garden of God forever, he wanted us to live in perfect happiness... but our ancestors (Eve) ate an apple that God had forbidden her to (God was testing their loyalty). Since humans proved there that they could not always obey God no matter what, we now live in a fallen world. |
Allow me to challenge your thinking, no right or wrongs just for personal growth...
God Indeed created pain and suffering. For God created humans with full knowledge of our creations. For as you should know, there is nothing we could create that God had no prior knowledge of, for this would mean that we are capable of creating something outsides the thoughts of God, factor that if you believe God is omnipotent, is impossible.
God indeed knew, Adam and Eve would eat from the tree for God knows the future. Or does he not? In fact, if we agree that there is no such thing as time for God; he is likely to know what the consequence of his creations would be in the future....
God created humans knowing, they were not always going to follow his "commands." Or did he not?
I think you should do some thinking on why indeed there exists a need for suffering and pain in creation. Or is there a need? That is something for your personal deliberation.
Cheers
First off for all the "no proof" people, I thought you might want to give this a read. Doesn't necessarily represent my thoughts or feelings, just, it's interesting.
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com/
Nextly, the bible does'nt portray God in the sense of a demon. Especially in the new testament. I'm wondering what passages you draw this from? God punishes, but this is because it is his duty as a supreme ruler.
Those who say the pain of this world prove God does not love or indeed hates us should also take time to reflect upon themselves and think about themselves as pessimists... also what is the meaning of life on earth? And if God sheltered us all from pain would he truly love us? Also, is God responsible for the pain on Earth? Interesting to think about.
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com/
Nextly, the bible does'nt portray God in the sense of a demon. Especially in the new testament. I'm wondering what passages you draw this from? God punishes, but this is because it is his duty as a supreme ruler.
Those who say the pain of this world prove God does not love or indeed hates us should also take time to reflect upon themselves and think about themselves as pessimists... also what is the meaning of life on earth? And if God sheltered us all from pain would he truly love us? Also, is God responsible for the pain on Earth? Interesting to think about.
john 3:16
for GOD so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son.
If you don't believe that GOD loves you, it's up to you. I HOPE GOD won't punish you for that...
GOD BLESS YOU.
for GOD so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son.
If you don't believe that GOD loves you, it's up to you. I HOPE GOD won't punish you for that...
GOD BLESS YOU.
if your assuming God exists, then I'm assuming your cool with biblical proof.
1 John 4:8 - Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.
or
1 John 4:16 - God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him.
both come from NIV.
God is love, but God's love can be experienced in different ways. But that doesn't account for people's actions towards one another. But one thing I've seen is despite people doing thier worst to others, the victims find healing and wholeness in the arms of the loving God, as cheesey as I may have made it sound.
1 John 4:8 - Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.
or
1 John 4:16 - God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him.
both come from NIV.
God is love, but God's love can be experienced in different ways. But that doesn't account for people's actions towards one another. But one thing I've seen is despite people doing thier worst to others, the victims find healing and wholeness in the arms of the loving God, as cheesey as I may have made it sound.
Believing in God is a faith that one has, and one should not require proof if one truly believes.
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