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Razorback (ed2k servers) closed





Locklear
Quote:
However it is being reported the Federal Belgian Police have raided and seized Razorback2's servers. In addition, it is suspected the administrator of Razorback2 is currently in custody


English:
http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=1102

Spanish:
http://www.bandaancha.st/weblogart.php?artid=3733
http://www.cable-usuarios.org/post14285-7.php4
wumingsden
Locklear wrote:
Quote:
However it is being reported the Federal Belgian Police have raided and seized Razorback2's servers. In addition, it is suspected the administrator of Razorback2 is currently in custody


English:
http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=1102

Spanish:
http://www.bandaancha.st/weblogart.php?artid=3733
http://www.cable-usuarios.org/post14285-7.php4


I've only just learnt what RazorBack2 was from the link but in my opinion it shoudln't be closed down. Apparantly it only index's sites, it doesn't host actual material. Although I have no significant opinion on peer-2-peer programmes including for illigal use I think the authorities shold focus on the actual hosting of material rather than a 3rd party.
wumingsden
then again:

***
Quote:

The operators of Razorback2 had clear financial motives. In addition to collecting "donations" from users, revenue was also generated through the sale of advertising on the site, usually promoting pornographic websites. In addition, the availability of offensive content will be inhibited. The operators of this eDonkey site chose not to exercise control over files being traded by users which including those containing child pornography, bomb-making instructions and terrorist training videos.


maybe it was a good thing in the end, I guess there are two sides to every story though.


***from http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=1102
wumingsden
Dicuss the article here, also note that the article has been updated, which I fount out here: http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19476
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***Edit - Also note that the above link to the forum features a cartoon of Prophet Mohammed from the Danish Newspaper as somebody's avatar.
wumingsden
This is a very good point from the forum mentioned above:

Quote:

I don't understand how they could take down Razorback2. It hosted no files, except for a directory of ed2k hashes and links, and a ed2k indexing service.

It had NO illegal files on the server itself as far as I know.
Could it be that someone was using it for something other than ed2k and THAT is why they are in trouble and the servers were seized?
That's the best explanation I can come up so far, because many countries have already said that if they want to take down ed2k servers, they also have to take down Google, MSN Search, and others.
Bondings
Links to illegal content, certainly child pornography and terroristic activity are also considered illegal in some circumstances/countries/laws. They did nothing to prevent links to point to illegal content while 95-99% of it (just a guess) was illegal.

And focussing on the actual materials? Do you want the police to arrest all teenagers?

I'm proud of the Belgian police. Very Happy
wumingsden
Bondings wrote:
Links to illegal content, certainly child pornography and terroristic activity are also considered illegal in some circumstances/countries/laws. They did nothing to prevent links to point to illegal content while 95-99% of it (just a guess) was illegal.

And focussing on the actual materials? Do you want the police to arrest all teenagers?

I'm proud of the Belgian police. Very Happy


Quote:
Do you want the police to arrest all teenagers?


Sorry, I don't understand ?
Let me just add that I don't think peer-2-peer programs are good nor bad, probably because I don't use them. However in a earlier post I did quote someone saying that the closeure of Razor*** was a good thing.

Edit - Also if you want to get hold of "child pornography and terroristic activity" then with or without Razor*** you are going to find it. After all that is what Bots do and Razor*** is just like one. An example of this is the other day I was searching for song lyrics on Google. For some reason I decided to check out the very last submitted result (on something like page 10*). The website was a XXX site and a downloaded started as I entered which turned out to be a virus. I bet if you searched google on child pornography or something like that then results would come up.
Bondings
I just meant that the illegal files were placed on the computers of all the users, in this case mostly teenagers.

From what you told me I understood that they didn't do anything about illegal content (95-100%most of the files). They did make a lot of money from it.

Google does try to ban websites with illegal content or even websites that breach copyright laws(you can report them to google and other search engines).
Devil
Bondings wrote:
I just meant that the illegal files were placed on the computers of all the users, in this case mostly teenagers.

From what you told me I understood that they didn't do anything about illegal content (95-100%most of the files). They did make a lot of money from it.

Google does try to ban websites with illegal content or even websites that breach copyright laws(you can report them to google and other search engines).


Have u seen Google adds ? they have the biggest list of scam sites , and they dont want to do anything about it , cuz they earn money from it ,

anyway ,razor was a good server ,and it doesnt matter one server goes down, 4 more will comeup , people who dont know about P2P should not talk about it ,

there is more to P2P then just illegal files , u cannot balme the xerox machine or the video recorder , then why blame P2P ,

Where as childporn is concerned i am 100% against it , but i dont think any p2p is able to stop it , we have the power to stop it ,we should just simply not watch it ,
All P2p come with a block list , where u can filter words in ur search,

some P2p Block contents like child porn by default , like edonkey ,
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